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Speaker 1: the authority on all th R and D ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: Money was taken and this is the only money podcast.

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Speaker 3: The authority on allees.

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Speaker 1: R indeed. Oh listen.

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Speaker 2: You know sometimes you got to venture on out to

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Speaker 2: that Midwest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you get to a city that you don't even

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Speaker 2: know that these types of people exists. It's Bruin just

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Speaker 2: brew Win and I ain't talking about the Brewers, huh.

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a city.

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Speaker 2: When you're saying were you're from, Say, I didn't eat

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Speaker 2: even know black people with that were everywhere.

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Speaker 1: You better buck up, You better buck up. I like

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Speaker 1: what you're doing today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what you're doing today coming from a

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Speaker 2: town I know this time very well because I'm from

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Speaker 2: the same time. Yeah, yeah, speak on it. He danced,

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Speaker 2: put a week on, he's singing, he acted, he put

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Speaker 2: it on. Yeah, hm hmm. This man is down in.

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Speaker 2: It's one of my favorites and he's from the soul

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Speaker 2: Milwaukee's Jack Flanimo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, sir, yes, man.

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Speaker 4: Season for RB money, congratulations, come on man, Yeah, show

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Speaker 4: seasons on seasons. Season you know about seasons you know

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Speaker 4: about some seasons.

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Speaker 1: Man. How you feeling, man? Man? I feel good. Man.

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Speaker 4: This is a it's a good year. It's a good year, bro.

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Speaker 4: Year to reflect and just man, God been good. God've

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Speaker 4: been good man, Just like reflecting on my career. I'm

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Speaker 4: twenty nine this year.

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Speaker 1: You're twenty nine.

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Speaker 4: That's gray man, Yeah, twenty you're at least.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen or fifteen. When I mentioned this is.

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Speaker 4: Easy, he started at your twenty nine, twenty nine crazy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so jealous.

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Speaker 4: Wow, why you say that.

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Speaker 2: I just want to be twenty nine. Actually I'm forty nine,

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Speaker 2: oh man, twenty years older than you.

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Speaker 4: You're still rocking. I just was at the Brandy and

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Speaker 4: Monica show. You still rock ship came out. You came

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Speaker 4: out like twenty nine?

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Speaker 1: Did it? Did it?

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Speaker 4: It felt making some noise for tank you dude, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well you're not because because yeah yeah yeah, I'm talking

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Speaker 2: to them, but I'm really talking to.

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Speaker 1: Myself, Yeah, telling myself you're bad.

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Speaker 2: Because when she told me to come out, I had

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Speaker 2: them the sweatsuit that was like you want to come

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Speaker 2: out on stage? I was like, broc.

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Speaker 1: Take it off.

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Speaker 2: He said, see, you ain't gonna do them. Take the

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Speaker 2: but take your damn shirt off.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you're right, Yeah, you're right. It went crazy.

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Speaker 2: So they was like, it's elevators, and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 2: it's the elevator, is it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I was like, okay, cool, cool, cool.

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Speaker 2: And then I'm like, okay, well, let me just let

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Speaker 2: I'm like, Burns, should I should I get them to

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Speaker 2: He said, hell yeah, yeah, in the middle of your song,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that right.

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Speaker 2: So, as I'm waiting, as I'm just kind of, you know,

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Speaker 1: Luda and Jermaine dupri go up and the place goes crazy.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, look is this? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Where would they put them first? That's not fairst Two

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Speaker 2: of them just want to me. I said, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I got something for y'all.

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Speaker 1: Come what. I got to ready, I got to I

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Speaker 4: With the with the it was real, theatric with the

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Speaker 4: I'm cracking I'm going to third Rob, like egoing crazy.

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Speaker 2: But I didn't expect the reaction to be like and

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Speaker 2: Atlanta is my city. I love Atlanta. But they showed

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Speaker 2: we've seen you as a as a baby. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Of the coldest. Thank you, thank you. It was the

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Speaker 1: it was the whole person.

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Speaker 4: That was the first time I'm trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: Was there, like which one it was?

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Speaker 4: I don't know maybe, but you y'all were filming in

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Speaker 4: the warehouse. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, that was We

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Speaker 4: had my nephew with me. That was like early on

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Speaker 4: get the the bts right of you preparing for the shot, and.

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Speaker 5: I'm watching, I'm like, oh he cold, Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: Where's the Where does the dancing come from? Because that

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Speaker 2: people who know. No, yeah, people who know know the

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Speaker 2: dancers and the artists. Everybody knows. They know he's a guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but where do you get that from?

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Speaker 4: I don't really you know, my dad always had great rhythm.

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Speaker 4: my mom was dancing a little bit. But like for me,

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Speaker 4: I think watching TV, watching Mike B two K, watching

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Speaker 4: big dogs, you know what I'm saying. So it was

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Speaker 4: just about me. Like I remember Dave Scott rest in peace.

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Speaker 4: He was my first my first dance class. Yeap Scott

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Speaker 4: was Dave Scott.

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Speaker 4: I drove from Milwaukee, my mom drove me to Chicago.

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Speaker 4: like this hard, like that's what I be watching. So

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Speaker 4: I just really started to be around it.

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Speaker 4: it out. I still trying to. I think when you

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Speaker 1: Always like you know, me being a dance as well, it's.

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Speaker 2: Always it's all, there's always new nuances that are added

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Speaker 2: since your.

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Speaker 1: I mean, footwork is a real big thing right now.

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Speaker 2: Footwork always footwork, Yeah, because a lot of footwork that

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown does, like you taught him. I didn't teach him,

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Speaker 2: acrobatics within the dance. So I won my I won

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to embarrass when I do it, because

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Speaker 2: So it was like I was, it was running man

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Speaker 1: How I Wonzy.

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Speaker 2: So I was already hot back then, So I don't

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Speaker 2: want to take that to shine from you. Like in

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me see you, you, you, you and you?

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Speaker 1: What group were you in? You know you're doing to

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Speaker 4: I feel like I was definitely, I was definitely trying

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Speaker 4: oh I'm about to do a tour tomorrow, I need

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Speaker 4: Cheek and all these like choreographers we see today, Cody Wiggins,

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Speaker 4: and he was holding down this like dance invasion short

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Speaker 4: but it was always you was always around, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying. No cameras is around, Like you win,

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Speaker 4: So after we really like worked Milwaukee, I mean we

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Speaker 4: And we took that same formula. Shott to Rico Love.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, rolling up on them singing original music. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: We was busting out F y E stores from f

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Speaker 5: So it's just that doesn't really exist anymore. It should

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that T shirt? Remember you from recess

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Speaker 4: and that's gonna. I'm sure they're watching you on shows,

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Speaker 5: And then having those moments. I always feel like that

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Speaker 5: That's all that's that's available, you know what I mean? Yeah, man,

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Speaker 5: because the wildest part is that tanking. I wow, work

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Speaker 4: When you told me that, I was I did not

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Speaker 4: So it's it's it's dope because I remember, just to

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Speaker 4: I'm like six at this point. So they coming out

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Speaker 5: It's so crazy you explaining that to me straight up.

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Speaker 4: So shout out to Cerce man he was really investing

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Shout out to Rico, Rico

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Speaker 4: Luve and just like really you know, coming in and

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And fast forward, we did that, man, and like them

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Speaker 4: You come first, Chris Jackson, and then Yeah and then

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Speaker 2: Your process is not normal. Do you possibly attribute some

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Speaker 2: you you saying John Tay Austin and Teddy Riley and everybody.

436
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 2: You're like, you're saying, guys off the top, who are

437
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: who are those guys at the time they're on fire? Yeah,

438
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: and you're walking in there getting music from these teams

439
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 2: fourteen years old?

440
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: Did it hit you?

441
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 4: I don't think Like at that time, I was just

442
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 4: I felt like I hadn't made it yet. You know

443
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 4: what I mean I was kind of I still have

444
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 4: the mentality like we still got to get out of this,

445
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 4: like we still like we still gotta we still got to.

446
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 4: I ain't went platinum yet. I ain't I ain't sold

447
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,800
Speaker 4: out arenas yet, you know, like, yeah, I'm not where

448
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 4: I was, but we can't. We can't stop here, you know.

449
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 4: So I think now that I look back, I see

450
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 4: more of the blessings in it now because I don't

451
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 4: think I was present enough as a teenager. It was

452
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 4: just like, yeah, you.

453
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 5: Never are at that age, right, You just working, just working,

454
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 5: and like you said, you're trying to get to certain

455
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 5: goals and until you get there, and then ultimately when

456
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 5: you get there, for whatever those goals are for yourself,

457
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 5: you're usually pushing toward whatever the next one is. As artists,

458
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 5: and I think that's important that you mentioned that of

459
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 5: being present, right because even at what they say my

460
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 5: big age now, like I try to have my moments

461
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 5: where I'm present.

462
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: I try to be like, damn, that was actually pretty cool.

463
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's important, And I think that's what kind

464
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 4: of year has been for me. It's the longest break

465
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 4: we've had from filming. Each season we usually film right

466
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 4: after a season airs with the shop. But we had

467
00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 4: a whole year off and I've just been able to

468
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 4: just like look at old YouTube videos and you know,

469
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 4: dropping my jail album this year and just kind of

470
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 4: like dang, like I done did a lot.

471
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: He's able to walk through the mall and feel it. Yeah,

472
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: that's all. That was his whole goal in life.

473
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 4: But walking all, I ain't gonna lie. I don't touch

474
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 4: that moll. I used to walk through the mall. I

475
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 4: went to them all yesterday.

476
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 5: And this is actually the first time this has happened

477
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 5: to me.

478
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: Right where. You know, we always talk about the.

479
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 2: Airport being like the gauge of if you if some

480
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: airport is cracking, because if the if the TSA say

481
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 2: something to you crazy, they see everybody. They see everybody,

482
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 2: so if they say something to you, you're like, yesterday, bro,

483
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 2: I'm in the mall and a young lady literally drops

484
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: to her knees and starts doing.

485
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: This like bowing.

486
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 5: I don't know how to receive that because I'm like,

487
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 5: stop and I had to.

488
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: Come in to America moment.

489
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,959
Speaker 2: While I start looking at other people, I'm like, I'm like,

490
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: it's okay, It's all right.

491
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 5: And she's like, you guys are such an inspiration. She's like,

492
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 5: I watched every single show. Wow, I'm so inspired by

493
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 5: what you guys are doing. And I'm like, damn, this

494
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 5: ship is really important.

495
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 4: We never really know, like what we're doing until we

496
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 4: see the reaction for real.

497
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 1: Bro that it tripped me out. So shout out to

498
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: that young lady.

499
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

500
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 5: I asked her what her name was, but she couldn't

501
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 5: even really like yeah. She was just like no, it's

502
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 5: just really nice to meet you. And I'm like, Yo,

503
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:31,639
Speaker 5: this is wild.

504
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 1: Yep.

505
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, bro, it's like we it's just how we are,

506
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 4: Like we were so locked in. We just feel like

507
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 4: it's a normal thing. But it's normal to us. It's

508
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: not normal. It's not it's it's it's huge blessings. Like

509
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 4: to be able to sit down like this, and man,

510
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 4: I'm tapped in. I've watched a lot of episodes, you

511
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So it's like to be able

512
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: to sit down, I flew. I'm like, yeah, I'm coming today.

513
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 4: I'm like, I mean, I'm flying from the day I

514
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 4: got here last night. You know what I'm saying. I'm

515
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 4: in and out, you know what. So it's like I'm like, yeah,

516
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 4: I'm pulling up. So this is this is huge, Bro,

517
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 4: this is huge, and I think you're all for having

518
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 4: me for now.

519
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: Of course, bro's your question. Let me ask you a

520
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: tough question. How do you feel like music in terms

521
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: of what you envisioned it to be, what you wanted

522
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 2: to be. How do you feel that worked out for you?

523
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 4: I don't feel like I even arrived musically.

524
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: I agree, I don't feel like I arrived. No.

525
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 2: I think based on and I'm gonna let you answer it,

526
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 2: based on what I know that you are capable of,

527
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: and based on what I see it's out here, and

528
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: I don't I'm not mad at nobody for getting off

529
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: the shelf, getting in the game and having a good

530
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: run and being successful. I appreciate that whole heartedly. But

531
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: seeing you and knowing what you're made of, yeah, I'm like,

532
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: he hasn't even scratched the surface. No, not even scratched

533
00:25:58,760 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: the surface.

534
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I think I think after I want to

535
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 4: say Heartbreak Herd Around the World was the last record

536
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 4: I had released with RCA. I was like seventeen, and yeah,

537
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 4: just coming out of that record deal, it was like

538
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 4: I was still doing a lot of film. My first film,

539
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: film and music really kind of happened the same time.

540
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: You know, like I was doing Black Nativity, but I

541
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 4: was still on tour, and I was still I did

542
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 4: Maid's Runner, but I'm still on tour, you know what

543
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 4: I mean. So I was like I was still doing both.

544
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: But I think at that point, financially, I was like, man, musically,

545
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: it's just I don't know if I'm like, it ain't,

546
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 4: it wouldn't happen. Maybe I was impatient, you know.

547
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: As a team too.

548
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 4: That money, it was just it was less overhead, you know,

549
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 4: it was like a less conflict conflict. You ain't chasing

550
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: a promoter for the bag Let's drama too, less drama.

551
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: Let's drama. Man.

552
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: So it's like I was like I just started leaning

553
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 4: on acting and I was just like, man, if I

554
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 4: want to do music, I'm just I still got the internet,

555
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 4: you know, so I still just throw it out and

556
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: investing in if I can. But you know, I'm not

557
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 4: against going to another major situation or whatever situation that's

558
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: best for me to be who I need to be musical.

559
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 5: Now, you feel like when you were on a major label,

560
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 5: you were able to be you.

561
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 4: I don't at the gate. You never you never are.

562
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't think.

563
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 4: I think everybody just trying to figure out, Okay, how

564
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 4: can we get this artist to blow up? Period, you

565
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 4: know what I mean? And I really, looking back, men,

566
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 4: I really appreciate like the building for just prioritizing me

567
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 4: and just like wanting to We never put out an album.

568
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 4: They were always like, we got to get a top

569
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: ten single, we gotta get a number one before we

570
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: even think about an album, you know what I mean.

571
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: So I never really dropped the project until I went independent.

572
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,239
Speaker 4: And what I do realize now is that we were

573
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 4: coming out of real hard record sales and streaming would

574
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 4: slowly coming in, you know what I'm saying. I was like,

575
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 4: I was a MySpace kid, you know what I'm saying,

576
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 4: and then YouTube and then Twitter came in, and then

577
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 4: streaming just came over, and just really it was hard

578
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 4: for radio to even want to play a kid at

579
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: that time, you know. But touring was like the only

580
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: thing that I was able to prove myself. And shout

581
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: out to Michael Maldon for the screen tour man, Like,

582
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 4: I really don't think there's a space for artists like that. Anymore.

583
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, it's like Scream Tour

584
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 4: was just a blessing for me. It was a way

585
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 4: for me to build my fan base, like from YouTube

586
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 4: to like, oh we could see what he do on stage.

587
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 4: They like, Oh, like, he ain't got the hit record yet,

588
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: but he's a hit artist. You know what I'm saying.

589
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: Kids like kids really don't care about hit records right now.

590
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 5: Have you had that conversation with your kids yet? What

591
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 5: you mean the what is a hit record?

592
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: You know? What you got to have that.

593
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: I don't even I don't even think my daughter, I'm

594
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: gonna just explain to you, I don't even think they

595
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: They don't process it the way we process it now.

596
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: It's not a chart thing for them. Yeah, it's it's

597
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: what they like and what they share.

598
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 5: Man, Deuce, argue me down about some records that that's

599
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 5: a hit I said, Deuce, right, But I understood what

600
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 5: he was saying because for us back in the day,

601
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,959
Speaker 5: what he would be called is kind of a regional record, right,

602
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 5: especially me being from the Bay Area, we had so

603
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 5: many regional hits that you can't tell me nothing about

604
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 5: you've experienced, you know, right, And I think now with

605
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 5: the kids, their region is their circles. Everybody in my

606
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 5: circle think this record is cracking. It's a hits, a hit,

607
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 5: and I had to understand that, Like, oh, I think

608
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 5: that's what's changed.

609
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: About with the Internet and streaming, Like now I'm discovering

610
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: artists that's selling out shows. Yes, never never listen, never

611
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 4: listen to the album, never been to a show, but

612
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 4: fans is lined up, you know what I mean. So

613
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: I think that that is That's that's what I do

614
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: like about the new age, Like it ain't so you

615
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 4: could be popping over there and providing for your family

616
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 4: and doing your thing and we ain't ever got to

617
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 4: go to the show.

618
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: Is there anything you don't like, don't like?

619
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 4: Nah, I ain't really Maybe I'm not tapped in it up,

620
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: but I ain't really like not nothing I'm saying like

621
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 4: an artist, I'm saying it just about the industry, within

622
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: the industry and where we are now in music, right

623
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: because even off camera we were having conversations about AI

624
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: and different you know, just different things about that. But like,

625
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: is there anything for you that you're like, I ain't

626
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: fuck with that. I think I'm definitely starting to see like,

627
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 4: what's paid for? Okay' You know, like you could be talented,

628
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: you can be extremely talented.

629
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: You can have a hit record.

630
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 4: You feel like you can have a hit record, but

631
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 4: if you ain't got the funds to really take it

632
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: to the top, Yeah, it's just gonna be living online.

633
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: As they say, it takes money to make money.

634
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 4: Money takes make money to make money. So it's just

635
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 4: I think that's the only things. As I get closer

636
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: to the industry, I'm like, d you really gotta and

637
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 4: I invest them on album, you know what I'm saying.

638
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, budget clothes.

639
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: Once you get to that space.

640
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: Where it's out of your pocket, those conversations are different.

641
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 5: I remember having a conversation with Forty, who's been independent

642
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 5: since independent became Yeah, and he's like, found the time

643
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 5: we're doing one single in one video and we're selling

644
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 5: the whole project off that I ain't shooting a whole

645
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 5: bunch of videos.

646
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: I ain't because it's coming out of his pocket. Bottom line.

647
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: It's different. It's different. You feel it different. But when

648
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 4: you're the label, like, you know, I need five video,

649
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 4: six videos, I.

650
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: Need ten dances, I need blow the building up. No,

651
00:31:59,640 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: I broke.

652
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 4: I pop up from underneath the stage.

653
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: You know, he blew up the building? What is it? Slowly? Yeah,

654
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: I was blown to a ballot ballot. I know I

655
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: had the matrix. True, I was doing wirework.

656
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 4: You were going crazy.

657
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: I was blowing the bad I think I was about

658
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: four million in death.

659
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: You're like, I am legend. There was fire breathing over me.

660
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: I had a baby almost was that? What was that? Buddet?

661
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: My first video was like like five hundred K and

662
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: then my and then slowly it was like seven hundred ky.

663
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 4: Now, bro, this is.

664
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: To take it back.

665
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: Mind you, I shot maybe I Deserved twice, so that

666
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 2: went out to maybe like six or so. So Freaky

667
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: was like five hundred. Maybe I Deserve was like about

668
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: six or something. Slowly was about seven, like you know

669
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And they got me on the road

670
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: doing promo, doing promo shows for like everybody. I did

671
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: like fifty sixty free promo shows. Somebody was getting that money.

672
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 4: That's how I'd be feeling to like somebody getting said.

673
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: Somebody getting paid. But that's what it was like. We had.

674
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,479
Speaker 1: They had unlimited funds to break an artists.

675
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 4: Yep, it's over now, I.

676
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: Mean it ain't really I don't think it's I don't

677
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: think it's all.

678
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 4: You just got to do it yourself and then pull up.

679
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: You got to be strategic, got to be strategic about

680
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: right money.

681
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 5: And it's a conversation that you and I had when

682
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 5: when you came to see me, yep, and it was

683
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 5: random because you had called me you just like.

684
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: Big Broma, pull up, You're like shit, come on.

685
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 5: And then the conversation that we had that night about

686
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 5: my belief personally of who and what you are in

687
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 5: this industry and what you mean to it. And listen,

688
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 5: I'm from the Bay Area where independence is king. We've

689
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 5: been you know, we live on the island up there,

690
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 5: and we've been pushing independent music for a long time.

691
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 5: I personally, and I've said this, and maybe some people

692
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 5: don't agree with me, I don't believe that you can

693
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 5: have independent superstars. No, you can't, because it costs so

694
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 5: much money to make a superstar. And in my opinion,

695
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 5: you're a superstar. Everybody told you that night. I really,

696
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 5: I really, honestly believe that, and anybody that knows me

697
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 5: knows that. I don't tell people that I think that

698
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 5: because I don't think that we have a lot of them,

699
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? With what you cover, you

700
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: know what I mean, and what you can bring to

701
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 5: entertainment not just your music, right, and what you're doing

702
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 5: with your acting side.

703
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: You're there, you know what I'm saying.

704
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: Now the next step is you doing some you know

705
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 5: with Blockbuster Motion picture right, and then you you've run

706
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 5: that gamut. But to me, being an independent artist is

707
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 5: a hobby.

708
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, in my.

709
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: Opinion, it is not.

710
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 4: I feel like for someone like it's definitely like if

711
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 4: I'm on set, masters check, come in, you know what

712
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, while I'm gonna say, like it's my

713
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: little music check, all right.

714
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: You know I love music, you.

715
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 4: Know, because I mean that's what you're really It doesn't compare,

716
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 4: It don't really, It don't compare because it's like we know,

717
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 4: we know the DSPs can pay a little more. I mean,

718
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I ain't trying to trying

719
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 4: to burn no bridges.

720
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: No, it's the truth is not a bridge burn. They're

721
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: making a lot lot of money're making a lot of a.

722
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: Lot of streaming.

723
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: The owners and labels ye are making a lot of

724
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: partner up in streaming, and the distribution.

725
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 4: Is a slap side slapsided, so that you know, we

726
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 4: just keep having these conversations. And I think that's probably

727
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: the only thing I do like about independence, even though

728
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: I do agree like what you're said, because I feel

729
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: like any arena artists they with a major. You gotta

730
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 4: be with a major. You got some capacity, and you

731
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 4: gotta be tied in with that. And I think the

732
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: only thing I like about independence is that you get

733
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 4: something coming in monthly, right, And like, I feel like

734
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 4: if we can get to that in a space with

735
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 4: music where I don't have to travel to nine countries

736
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 4: to make some money, you know what I'm saying, Like,

737
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 4: I think that's I think that's powerful. You know what

738
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: I mean. If I'm on set four months out the

739
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 4: year and I got these checks coming in once a

740
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 4: month from my masters, I'm like, Okay, I can put

741
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 4: that in my boom boom boom boo boom bom bom boomom.

742
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: I ain't gott touch that. I can po poll up

743
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 4: while I'm on set doing this, doing this, doing this right.

744
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: But it's like it's not really enough to If I

745
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 4: didn't have film, I couldn't I couldn't live off that,

746
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 4: you know, that wouldn't fund my lifestyle.

747
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 2: But I think timing is a thing too, right because

748
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: I think now that you have so much that and

749
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 2: we're going to get into the acting, we can't gloss

750
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: over that by any means. But now that you have

751
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: that strong foundation and you know, honestly financial backing as

752
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: an actor, I feel.

753
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 1: Like a season.

754
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: Of you doing the music, doing the turing and in

755
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: the right in the right way is going to now

756
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: be beneficial because now you bring however, many millions of

757
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: people are already watching you to these venues, you bring

758
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: them now, and so that guarantee, it just it just

759
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: smells different. It starts to make sense.

760
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: Definitely, It's definitely like, yeah, let's let's see what everybody

761
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 4: talking about. Anybody, anybody got some deals on the day, you.

762
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: Know, because I just believe that you you are.

763
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 5: A part of that conversation that him and I have

764
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: a lot of Okay, who can really do all the things?

765
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 5: Who can sing for real? Now' who can perform for real?

766
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 5: Who can you know what I'm saying, like who can dance?

767
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: Who can? Or who can play? Or who can? Like

768
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: even us watching right now, watching the Leon Thomas.

769
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, shout out to le together man, Like seeing.

770
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 5: That happen, seeing that, seeing that become a reality for

771
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 5: him has been even though I'm not even attached to it,

772
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 5: just a proud moment of me feeling like, Okay, I

773
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: be right about some ship because to see a kid

774
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 5: like that are grown up, but a kid in this

775
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 5: ship where it's like you're finally getting your shot, to

776
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 5: see that happening, and for him to really start to

777
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 5: receive the fruits of his labor from the music side

778
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 5: now because he also comes from the film and television side.

779
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: He is so talented.

780
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 5: It has to happen that way, right, And people can

781
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 5: say what they want, but him also being signed to

782
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 5: a major record.

783
00:38:54,040 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: Label has helped, has helped. Those are real steroids, you

784
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

785
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 5: So when we see our little brother, were like, that's

786
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 5: all he needs. Yeah, obviously you.

787
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: Got put the music with it.

788
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 5: Now.

789
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine.

790
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 5: But you can put great music on an independent level

791
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 5: and it starts to hit its head.

792
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: Yep.

793
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 5: You put it on a major level, major label level,

794
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: and it starts to break that glass ceiling.

795
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: Still outstream Heartbreaker head around the world.

796
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: The resources are just unlimited and the relationships.

797
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 2: The relationships are they've been curated for the last fifty

798
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: sixty years.

799
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 1: Yep, yep.

800
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 5: Because it's a difference in the independent radio person you

801
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 5: have working it in the Juliet Jones talk about you

802
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 5: talk about it, the Kevin Holidays on Ron Stewart. So

803
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, you start talking about the

804
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 5: people that are in labels, that have been at labels

805
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 5: for years. You know what I mean that step Johnson's

806
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 5: back when the you know what I'm saying, like, yeah,

807
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 5: that's different is and note they have different relationships with

808
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 5: program directors with now who are people at DSPs, presidents

809
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 5: at our presidents are you start talking about guys like

810
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 5: Larry Jackson who helped start Apple Music, and it's like,

811
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 5: oh yeah, we're gonna run it through this program.

812
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: And everybody looks.

813
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 5: At that as like this whole you know, shit, we

814
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 5: ain't connected to nom we speak freely, this whole Paola thing.

815
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's a relationship thing.

816
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, more than that than.

817
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 5: Anything, because me calling him calling it's a different thing

818
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 5: than such and such calling from Saint Louis that they

819
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 5: don't know and this person from Saint Louis could have

820
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 5: all the greatest ideas, but don't have the relationship and

821
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 5: ain't spent the time with these people that can help

822
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 5: push you through.

823
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 4: And I agree with you saying, because I've been going

824
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 4: to concerts prior to past since we stopped filming season seven,

825
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: Like I want to say, I went to Brazil.

826
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're talking me. You put up on CB.

827
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, was like I gotta see this, and I just

828
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 4: remember being like, it's crazy. You can't do this by yourself. No,

829
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: I can't use by yourself. You know what I'm saying.

830
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 5: It's just the reality. And some people don't like to

831
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 5: live in reality. I know we live in the future, guys,

832
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 5: I know, I know it. But there is a thing

833
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 5: called reality where there are certain checks and balances and

834
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 5: you have to decide.

835
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: Who you want to be and at what level when

836
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: you want to be at that level. Some some people

837
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: got to eat too.

838
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: Yep. I love it what they say.

839
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: And the Godfather, you gotta let us.

840
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: Listen. You hold all the judges some insight.

841
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 5: I watch every Godfather believe at least once or twice

842
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 5: a year, sir, every single one, because that is the

843
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 5: key to business. Those are yes, it's gangster ship and

844
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 5: all the yeah, all that there. Everybody love to talk

845
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 5: about watch the business up heah, yeah, the Business of

846
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 5: the Godfather will tell you everything you need to know

847
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 5: about the world.

848
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, ah, that's okay.

849
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 4: That relates Toleena was telling me to watch Godfather too.

850
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: Broh, please every time it comes on, I.

851
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: Just stop, yeah, stop and listen. Definitely, I'm definitely you know,

852
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: we definitely talked.

853
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: All we don't get that.

854
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 4: No, I definitely agree though, and I do agree. I

855
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 4: feel like timing right now is definitely in twenty twenty six.

856
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: I definitely want to I definitely want to partner. You

857
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, bro, my kids don't know who

858
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 4: everybody is. Yeah, they know who you are. I told

859
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: you flat out, and you made my son today he

860
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: binge watches. Yeah, And that's what I've been seeing at

861
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 4: these shows, like even just the the indie shows I

862
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 4: did this summer, and just to some of the club runs,

863
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 4: like there's young and old showing up.

864
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: You got them.

865
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, like, and you know, I ain't hit

866
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 4: the road in a it's different. And you know, sometimes

867
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 4: you just on set and your cubicle and your trailer

868
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 4: and you're running your lines and your episodes of Aaron

869
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: and you're not really out like that. Yeah, you just

870
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 4: And when I showed up to these clubs and I

871
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 4: showed up to these venues, I kind of like, I

872
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 4: was like, I forgot, I forgot.

873
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am him, I am I forgot. Yeah, it's

874
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: straight up for that. Yeah, it's really like that.

875
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, like okay. And then you got

876
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 4: the O G. Jacob Lotimore fans. You got the fans

877
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 4: who just never knew I did music.

878
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: And that's not an age. It's not a like they

879
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: can do to all the analytics they want. Yeah, it's

880
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: whoever understands English at this point latch on to a

881
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 2: show Discovery like Discovery starts it at this point. My

882
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: son is ten. Yep, he understands all of it. Yeah,

883
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: so that's where it starts for you.

884
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 5: You're in it to a lot of the world, bro,

885
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 5: like you Jacob does. Yeah, but a lot of the world.

886
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm sure people are calling you in.

887
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: It all this just on the street.

888
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 4: On the street came the plane, like there you go,

889
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 4: the go in it.

890
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's let's let's get into the shout out.

891
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: Let's let's get it. Let's get into that.

892
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 4: Listen, be a blessing. So I want to Okay, I'm

893
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: gonna start l A. I came out to l A.

894
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 4: I did this movie called Mais Runner shout Out to.

895
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: My Lost Past.

896
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 4: We was number five on Netflix.

897
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: I watched it at least seventy two times.

898
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 4: Thank you for that.

899
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna get to resistual. Yeah. Yeah, speaking up.

900
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 4: I met my brother Dexter darting and and I was

901
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 4: like he was the first person to walk up on

902
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 4: me in a major on the set and he was like,

903
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 4: man like, what's up, bro, Like you know, like you're

904
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 4: doing this movie with this I'm like yeah in the movie,

905
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 4: and I had a small role and it was just

906
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 4: like a really dope community. But Dexter had an apartment

907
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 4: out here in LA and he was like, bro, if

908
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 4: you want to come out to LA and get some

909
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,479
Speaker 4: auditions in like and I got, I got a room,

910
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 4: you just go ahead for me on the rint.

911
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: Wow.

912
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: I'm like bet, you know, just like I got a

913
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: little roommate, good positive energy, meeting good people, you know

914
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: what I mean. And I was just driving ubers like

915
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 4: back and forth to Santa Monica, the Warner brother Studio,

916
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 4: like doing all these auditions, you know, and and then

917
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 4: I want to say that year I didn't get much

918
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 4: in nothing. I think the only film I did was

919
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 4: this film called Slight, and it was like Slight. We

920
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: shot it in like two and a half weeks, so

921
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 4: that the rest of the year just felt dry, you

922
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So I just like, man, like

923
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 4: they keep saying I'm a star, but they not picking

924
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 4: picking me for the movies. Like I don't understand this,

925
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So I'm building relationships and

926
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 4: which was dope, which I didn't realize at the time.

927
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 4: But the next year Collateral Beauty Detroit, I did an

928
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: indie with William H. Macy. Then the next year I

929
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 4: go back out to l A again, like I'm gonna

930
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 4: go audition again, you know what I mean. I ain't

931
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 4: even stay in la that long. Book to Shay and

932
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 4: season one, we go out to Chicago. We filmed this

933
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: this pilot, and I'm just like, man, I'm like God, like,

934
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: is this just gonna be one and done? Like it's

935
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 4: gonna be like a It's gonna be a season thing.

936
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 4: It's gonna be back to back to bath and I

937
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 4: want to say, by the time I booked that, I

938
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 4: was like, decks, I'm moving to Chicago, bro, Like we

939
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: picked up, we picked up for the whole season, like

940
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 4: we got a season one, like they rock with it. Yeah,

941
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 4: and he's like, bad man, that's fire. So I'm in

942
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 4: Chicago like just praying, like, man, this season one needs

943
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 4: to hit, you know what I mean? Season one and

944
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 4: just went crazy.

945
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 5: Did you feel it as you were as you were filming,

946
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 5: like this feels like something?

947
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: I know? You are you just in it? I was.

948
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 4: I was like, man, I at that point, I was

949
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 4: just so used to doing one film going to the next,

950
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 4: one film going to the next, So I was I

951
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: wasn't really promising myself too much, you know, because He's like,

952
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: sometimes you could just disappoint yourself, you know what I mean.

953
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: So I'm just I was always ready to pivot. And

954
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: and then it just went crazy that year. It went

955
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: crazy that year. And then I want to say, we

956
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 4: start hitting essence fast and we started hitting the ground.

957
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, I want to say. The first person

958
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 4: that recognized me at a at a high level was

959
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant was like Bron you the little

960
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 4: nigga from a shot, right. I was like what, I'm like, yeah, yeah,

961
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean, And shout out to

962
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 4: Kevon Looney he was he from Milwaukee playing for Yeah,

963
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 4: yeah yeah. Shout out the war manage them as well.

964
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: And uh so I was there filming a movie in

965
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 4: Cleveland at the time, like a like a brom Con

966
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 4: and and the only thing that was cool to do

967
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 4: is just go to the games, like the Lebron's last

968
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 4: time in Cleveland fast forward work with Lebron too, That's

969
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: another story that's crazy. And then and then just the

970
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 4: shot was just picking up, you know, and I'm like,

971
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 4: oh man, this show really catching catching heat, you know.

972
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 4: And then man, just like seasons after seasons and then

973
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 4: renewals and renewals and then not even know if the

974
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 4: show is gonna survive renew like and then Lena is

975
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 4: just like, hey, you ready, like you number one. I'm like, okay, okay, okay, okay,

976
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 4: like I've thank god, I got it. I got this

977
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 4: experience before with Black Nativity, being like, you know, number

978
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 4: one on the car sheet, like it didn't I didn't

979
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 4: feel too much pressure, and it's it's an ensemble as well.

980
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 4: So I'm already kind of like it ain't just me

981
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 4: on this show. Like everybody working, you know what I mean,

982
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: and everybody's great, and I'm gonna just set the tone

983
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 4: on just talk.

984
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: About just quickly, talk about being a number one, being

985
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: the anchor, being the leader, and your process of going

986
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: about galvanizing the troops, you know what I mean, and

987
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: the camaraderie and all these things, because y'all rock with

988
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: each other, Yea, we do like that. It's it's not

989
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: just we move around again as like y'all are y'all

990
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: are together, y'all. Yeah, I love that.

991
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Just talk about that process and putting that together,

992
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: you know.

993
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 4: I just think it probably goes back to how we

994
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 4: grew up, you know what I mean. We grew up

995
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 4: just family and just making sure everybody was good and

996
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 4: just having that big heart. So for me like this,

997
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 4: want in this to succeed, and just been in the

998
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 4: game long enough to kind of I didn't really start.

999
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: I guess I started finding my voice and I'm like, oh,

1000
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 4: I've been in the game a while. Like I guess

1001
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 4: these are some young young guys coming up on this show,

1002
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 4: and I want to be able to show them more

1003
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: than I could tell him, you know what I mean.

1004
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 4: And I think it was just about like, all right,

1005
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 4: I need to be more on time. I need to

1006
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 4: arrive early to say I need to I need to

1007
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 4: be off book most of the time, you know what

1008
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 4: I mean. I need to be bringing good energy to

1009
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 4: the workplace, you know what I mean, making people just

1010
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 4: feel welcome and comfortable. We got guests coming in and

1011
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 4: saying hello, like and just watching that. And that's what

1012
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 4: I learned from Will Smith. I learned that when I

1013
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 4: when I just like, I know, we'll probably like man,

1014
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 4: he mentioned me in every interview, but.

1015
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, get your own name, you do, do what

1016
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: you and then you just say your name for the

1017
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: most part instead of mine.

1018
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 6: You know.

1019
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 4: But I learned so much from you, you know. I

1020
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 4: think it was just that leadership of just like what

1021
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 4: it means to come to work as a as a

1022
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 4: as an actor and uh and that's what I just

1023
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: wanted to show on set, you know what I mean,

1024
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 4: Like leaning with sentamscription our call cast members. That's for

1025
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 4: hersity's lines the first time, real quick, let's link up

1026
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 4: at the let's have dinner, Let's let's run these lines.

1027
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: Let's not forget where we're at.

1028
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: On some team, because even.

1029
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 4: When they say cut, when we go out to dinner,

1030
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 4: we still at work, you know what I mean. We're

1031
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 4: not we're not on set, but we in Chicago when

1032
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 4: they're dying. You know what I'm saying. They paying for

1033
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 4: these trailers, they're paying for these drivers to come pick

1034
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 4: us up at our early and you still represent you,

1035
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 4: still represent you. Still you are an employee of the

1036
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 4: Paramount the show times, you know what I'm saying. So

1037
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 4: you gotta you gotta know that. You gotta know that

1038
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 4: when you move in and and you know, when you're

1039
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: young and you get money, and it's like and you

1040
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 4: and you in your city. You know, my cast, most

1041
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 4: of my cast is from Chicago. So you in your

1042
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: city popping right, and it's.

1043
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: Like, I'm like, you could go there.

1044
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,280
Speaker 4: We shouldn't go there. We shouldn't go to this party tonight.

1045
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 4: We should stay here. We should go to this little

1046
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: restaurant like little speakeasy, duck off. Just us keep it low,

1047
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Because we got to start

1048
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 4: moving different because when when things happen, they're gonna say

1049
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 4: our names. They're gonna say Jacob Blattimore's name, you know

1050
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 4: when things go left, And I think it was just

1051
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 4: important for me to recognize that because it was. It's

1052
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 4: just a lot of times, man, I just found myself.

1053
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 4: I'm like, I ain't supposed to be in this environment

1054
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,479
Speaker 4: right now, you know what I'm saying, Like, my career

1055
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 4: is just different, my brand is different at this point,

1056
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 4: you know. And it don't it ain't no no shade

1057
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 4: or anything like that. It was just like, man, I

1058
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 4: gotta I gotta get home.

1059
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: Bro.

1060
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 5: You have to understand the elements and everybody doesn't and

1061
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 5: that's unfortunate. But and the cool thing about what you

1062
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 5: just said, though, is that you've been able to identify

1063
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 5: it but then also identify.

1064
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: It for your team more than just yourself, because.

1065
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 5: You know, there are people who just be like, yeah,

1066
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 5: I'm out yep. Other than other than being like, you

1067
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 5: know what.

1068
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: Guys, we're out yep, because Jay'll leave and not say nothing.

1069
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: You'll be looking around, hey, But.

1070
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 4: It comes to that point the like and you ain't

1071
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 4: hear me the first time because it's probably a place

1072
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 4: we're not supposed to be in.

1073
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: But I'm having such a great time. Hey, you get

1074
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: us all. I'm like another thousand for once.

1075
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 2: Where where you go straight up magic, heaches you up

1076
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: and he's.

1077
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: Probably told me he doesn't want to leave.

1078
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 4: Now, that's how it be too.

1079
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just minutes likes the lights to come on.

1080
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't like the lights. I'm still doing that.

1081
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 4: Thirty I'm looking like, who about to get into a spread?

1082
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: You know, and he's doing it. I don't love me, man,

1083
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: they love it. Tank has never met a stranger.

1084
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 4: That's how I beat though. You're like, man, like, let's stop.

1085
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: You're right, you're onred thirty minutes because you understand it

1086
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 2: means something to you. Yeah, all of this work, all

1087
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: of this blood, sweat and tears, the opportunity, the people

1088
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: who believe in you, the people who depend on you,

1089
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: all of that mean something in your conscious of it.

1090
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: And at twenty nine, I'm gonna take it back some years.

1091
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say maybe twenty five, twenty four. I wasn't

1092
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: thinking like that at that age, absolutely not. It was

1093
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: it was Patron, man, where are they? Where are they

1094
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: selling patron at? Because wherever they're selling Patron, that's where

1095
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 2: I went. That's where I'll be.

1096
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: That's where I'll be.

1097
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,320
Speaker 2: I'll be there at twenty four Long Island iceed TV

1098
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: man bring me the hours.

1099
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: Hey to go back.

1100
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 4: I was when we were promoting the Black Nativity. Fan

1101
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 4: were going to different churches, and some of the churches

1102
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,399
Speaker 4: I was like the church, it's a little different. But

1103
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 4: it was one pastor in particular. I wish I remember

1104
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 4: his name because I really wasn't present like that at

1105
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 4: the time. Was really like I was ready to go,

1106
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 4: but my dad was with me, and his pastor was

1107
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 4: just telling me. He was like, You're gonna have to

1108
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 4: protect your temple on your journey. You have to protect

1109
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 4: your You ain't gonna be able to do what everybody

1110
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 4: else do, hm young And I didn't really understand what

1111
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 4: he was saying. I'm like, why, Like I want to

1112
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: do what everybody be done, you.

1113
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 7: Know what I mean.

1114
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 4: And then as I as I go on my journey,

1115
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 4: I think that's coming. I fully understand that now more

1116
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 4: than anything, you know what I mean, Like it my

1117
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 4: brand is fragile, My life is fragile, Like everything around

1118
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 4: me gotta be. You can't ride with me, you know

1119
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like it's it's real, Like everybody got

1120
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 4: to be on the same everybody got to be on

1121
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 4: the same wave or else. It's just I'm on mute.

1122
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 4: I'm on mute to you, and it ain't it ain't

1123
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 4: me acting funny. It's me just being serious about the

1124
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 4: gift that that's been just been placed.

1125
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: Good Steward, you know what I mean.

1126
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, because we spoke about that earlier too, right we

1127
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 5: you know, before you got here tech, we were talking

1128
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 5: about how the blessing m it isn't bestowed on everyone,

1129
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 5: not as artists, right, everybody has their different blessings, but

1130
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 5: we're talking about as artists in the arts, music, film, television, sports,

1131
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 5: you know, entertainment, and how there are so many of

1132
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 5: us that have so much talent and so many gifts

1133
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 5: but can't make a living wage being that.

1134
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 4: Man, it's tough. It's not easy, and we make it

1135
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 4: look easy, and man, we try to we try to write.

1136
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 4: And you know, we also spoke about the mental health

1137
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 4: of that of you know, it doesn't always happen for you,

1138
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 4: and sometimes you have to pivot, sometimes you have to

1139
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 4: do other things sometimes, you know what I mean. We

1140
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 4: kind of make light of it at times when we're

1141
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 4: just like, well, you can't you can't. You can't sell

1142
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 4: the same demo over and over and over. Right, that's

1143
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 4: our way of putting it in a place.

1144
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 5: But I think, like what you're saying, those those decisions

1145
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 5: that you've made ultimately sacrifices, even of saying like listen,

1146
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 5: if you on.

1147
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: Net you can't ride with me, that's crazy, okay, And

1148
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: that can mean so many different things, so.

1149
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: Many different things, bro, so many different things. When that

1150
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 2: car gets pulled.

1151
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 4: Off, hello, hey, and that's happened. That's happened, you know

1152
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 4: what I mean?

1153
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: Where it was?

1154
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: There was a time officer looked at me, he said,

1155
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 4: I know who you is, man, And he looked at

1156
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 4: me like you ain't even supposed to be in the

1157
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 4: car with this, yeah, and he gave me a pass.

1158
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: Man.

1159
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 4: It was like, I'm like, man, I was like, and

1160
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 4: it wasn't it wasn't mine. It just like it was

1161
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 4: just I'm.

1162
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: Like, come on, man, I'm in the vicinity.

1163
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 4: And I'm like, bro, like you can't come on, man,

1164
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 4: Like what's up?

1165
00:57:59,000 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: I can't ride like that?

1166
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 4: But I can only just take accountability for me.

1167
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: It's me, it's you.

1168
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 4: It's like you should have got your own car. You

1169
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 4: don't ride with nobody. You know what these people are saying, right,

1170
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: you know these people, and sometimes it could be family too, man.

1171
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 2: And sometimes you want to just be family. You just

1172
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: want to be the friend you just well, no, no,

1173
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 2: it's cool because you don't want to put yourself above

1174
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 2: anything or anybody. But it's like you said, it's not

1175
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: about being above. It's just about being responsible. Because think

1176
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: about that same family who may need you at some

1177
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 2: point yep, right, and they're not responsible enough to identify

1178
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: how to protect you. So you have to protect you

1179
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: in order to protect them. Exactly, yeap.

1180
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: So I mean, man, I just I'm just still stuck

1181
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: on your twenty nine on his eighth season, on his

1182
00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: eighth season of the Shot one more time. I'm just like, great.

1183
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 5: I also want to know, though, I mean, because listen,

1184
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 5: you know, I don't I don't know if you've gotten

1185
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 5: the script or not, or if you you know, you

1186
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 5: don't have to tell us what.

1187
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: Hey, man, they're gonna kill you. How does this thing?

1188
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: Man?

1189
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 4: Like when I read that script? Because they shot your ass,

1190
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 4: I shot you gonna I was a little nervous with

1191
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 4: my job. I was like leaning, leaning were good.

1192
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 5: Good cools, funny part is are not funny, but my

1193
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 5: son is.

1194
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 1: He was like, dad, they shot man. Yo.

1195
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 4: When I seen my that that Dave Emmett obituary online

1196
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 4: on Facebook with wings Man, I was like.

1197
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: The hood love shirt you off man a T shirt.

1198
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 4: No, When I seen that this year, I'm like, oh, Man,

1199
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 4: this one I think. I was like, oh, this character

1200
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 4: means so much to everybody. You know what I'm saying.

1201
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 4: And I was like, I think it was just a

1202
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 4: reminder again for me, just like, man, what you're doing

1203
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 4: ain't like you.

1204
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 1: Know, like every hood has an image.

1205
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you had too many kids too early.

1206
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 4: Really a good dude, good dude making it work.

1207
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: But he's gonna have to make bad decisions to That's just.

1208
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he gonna he's gonna lose it. He's gonna crash out.

1209
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 5: You didn't tell me, man, They're gonna smoke you. Man,

1210
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 5: I'm still.

1211
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 4: Trying trying to.

1212
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: Insights. Man, I don't want to know.

1213
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 4: Don't tell me it's.

1214
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't saying. I don't don't tell me.

1215
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 4: No, man, the shop being a blessing bro. I definitely, Uh,

1216
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 4: I can't wait to do this last season.

1217
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: Man.

1218
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 4: I think we're gonna we're gonna close the chapter right, Yeah,

1219
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 4: you know, I think it's a it's nice to be

1220
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 4: able to to know when we're closing. So you know,

1221
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: I'm sure Lena in there just going crazy with the

1222
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 4: writing and closing it the right way and close it

1223
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 4: in a way where the fans have closure too, because

1224
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 4: they've been rocking with.

1225
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: Us for a while. Because how many episodes is that world?

1226
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: We seasons? That'll be how many episodes? Though?

1227
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 4: We I forget total. I think we may have reached

1228
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 4: maybe eighty after this one.

1229
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

1230
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if that number is correct exactly, but

1231
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 4: I know for season six we had sixteen episodes, and

1232
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 4: then the rest has been like ten, and then seven

1233
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 4: was season seven was twelve episodes, and then this last

1234
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 4: would be incredible. I believe ten ten episodes. So congratulations, Bro,

1235
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 4: thank you man, thank you. Watching your journey has been incredible. Bro,

1236
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 4: and you just as they say, you love to see

1237
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 4: the good guys win. Thank you and you one of

1238
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 4: the good guys, bro, like yourself, Trevor Jackson.

1239
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 1: Yes, you know what I'm saying, Like.

1240
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, just a little you, brother, Kiki Palmer, Bro like

1241
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 5: watching what you guys have done in this timeframe, and

1242
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 5: a lot of y'all started around the same time. Yeah,

1243
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 5: you know, not everybody, but a lot of y'all started

1244
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 5: at the same time.

1245
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 4: And because me and Luke met on Black Nativity. Wow,

1246
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like then he later on

1247
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: with the shot, So everybody your name I seen on

1248
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 4: my path, you know what I mean, just at one

1249
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 4: point it's it's it's a blessing. And I want to

1250
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 4: say I just went to the Ebony one hundred party

1251
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 4: this week and Roam Flynn and h Cool, Trebor Jackson

1252
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 4: and Kate Camp and we were all at this I

1253
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 4: gotta find the picture because I want to post it.

1254
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 4: Were at one table and we were just all just like, man,

1255
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 4: we probably we just we're just giving each other our flowers,

1256
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like we were proud of everybody,

1257
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And we're seeing everybody like

1258
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 4: I turned on my TV, I might see one of

1259
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 4: my guys like like getting that. You know what I'm saying.

1260
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 4: You know, it's hard, it's hard, bro, It's and it's

1261
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 4: just the beginning. Just the beginning.

1262
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: That's the crazy thing. It's just the begining. Like you

1263
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: think you think, you think you're right.

1264
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 2: I think you know right now in twenty nine, Nah,

1265
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: imagine that there are.

1266
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: Still more levels.

1267
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 4: Imagine that. Yeah, how crazy that is? No, I feel good, bro.

1268
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm excited for that. I'm excited for that.

1269
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 4: I'm excited for that.

1270
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm here for all of it. In your mind,

1271
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: in your mind, what is Let's just pick one? What

1272
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 2: is the one thing you want to accomplish, just one thing,

1273
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: if you could just I'm sure it's an array of things,

1274
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: but the one thing you want to do, Just like,

1275
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 2: that's just like an arrival moment for you in my career.

1276
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,439
Speaker 2: And I don't care where to be acting. I don't

1277
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 2: care if it's in singing, I don't care where it is.

1278
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's owning a bit, whatever it is,

1279
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,120
Speaker 2: it's one I've always wanted to do, this one thing

1280
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: of all the things I want to do.

1281
01:03:55,720 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, pick one. Oh man, that's tough. That's tough. I mean,

1282
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 4: as a it's like, it's either it's got to be

1283
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 4: either selling out an arena tour. It's gotta be a

1284
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 4: j arena tour. I gotta get I don't know I'm

1285
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 4: gonna get it. You know what I mean, and then

1286
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 4: it's got I gotta do it. I gotta have a

1287
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 4: number one movie at box office. I gotta get people

1288
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 4: out of the house to come see.

1289
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 1: Me in theaters. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1290
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 4: Like, however, that goes even if it's a if a

1291
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 4: Netflix number one to be crazy too.

1292
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 5: You know number the Netflix number one is you want

1293
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 5: to get the people outside.

1294
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 4: But I want to get people outside the house because.

1295
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: I think I'm a movie guy.

1296
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 4: No, yeah, I love Team Member. Yeah yeah, no, No.

1297
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: I really go to really go to the movie. I

1298
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: go by myself.

1299
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 4: Gotcha, gotcha.

1300
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there by popcorn and raisin nets and get

1301
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, come on, man, don't don't just say

1302
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: five and raising. Come on the guy.

1303
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 5: Man, you're a glazy guy. Tell tell true. Bro, don't

1304
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 5: lie to the people. Bro, I don't omit.

1305
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: Okay, come on man.

1306
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 4: Hey, you got it there y'all went to the movie

1307
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 4: theater in New York.

1308
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: Lulu went to the movie theater and you know, and

1309
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 2: things was rolling. It was it was, it was glistening.

1310
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: And I said, man, you got any any of those

1311
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 1: hot dogs? Ready? Lulu walked away.

1312
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: Lulu walked away from me, so the lady and.

1313
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: They will rolling and.

1314
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 2: Roll and I guess she was she was she was

1315
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: I think she was Caribbean and she was like she

1316
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: was like, she was like, let me check for you.

1317
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: She looked, she said, she's like, I don't think the

1318
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 2: Glasies already let me.

1319
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: I said, shut up. I said, you can't do that.

1320
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: Once in New York is New York.

1321
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 2: She said, no, I'm not. I'm not trying to be anyway.

1322
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: You just you're just you're ordering a glazy and I

1323
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 2: want to make sure you have.

1324
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: What you say. You can't. You can't do that, you

1325
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: gotta cut it. So when he's raising that in five quart,

1326
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: they are they are laughing.

1327
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 2: Listen, man, I listen. Movie Glizzies. Uh, game glazzies. It's

1328
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: part for the course. Get out of there, all right,

1329
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: let's go somewhere box office. You want box office number

1330
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 2: one and an arena too.

1331
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: I listen.

1332
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 2: I share your dream yeah to to to like matching

1333
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: like brothers, I share your dream, share it.

1334
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,000
Speaker 1: It's like that's just something.

1335
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 4: I just feel like that's a that's a I did it.

1336
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did it.

1337
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 4: Like obviously you always want to keep doing it. But

1338
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 4: if I can say I did that. Yeah, I did that.

1339
01:06:58,560 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 4: I love that, you know what I mean?

1340
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm gonna say a thugs prayer for

1341
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: both of you niggas, please.

1342
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 7: Man.

1343
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 5: What they call it church prophesizing it?

1344
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: Did I get it right?

1345
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: It just sounds fit. It sounds crazy when you say it,

1346
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 2: just sounds like Pippin when you say.

1347
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: It, don't sound like church.

1348
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 6: Besides, yeah, Pastor Mallentine is prophesized, emphasizing that you two niggas,

1349
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 6: it's gonna get with your azz.

1350
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: Man right here. Yeah, yeah, but a lot of more.

1351
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: You've come a long way, yes, you have, not just

1352
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 2: in your career, but in distance.

1353
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 1: You've flown a long way to be here with us.

1354
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 2: Yes, sir as, they are canceling and delaying flights ten

1355
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 2: percent of a day.

1356
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: WHOA, I made it.

1357
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: Your flight took off, my my, my mind, just as

1358
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 2: your career, my man, my mind took off. You're flying high,

1359
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 2: my brother, yes, but as you are flying.

1360
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: Sitting in your first class Delta one seat.

1361
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: We we know how you travel, right, We need some information.

1362
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: The people call it, Joe, what they call it? Top five?

1363
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: Your top five, top f your top five? What is it?

1364
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: Are theaingle.

1365
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:42,120
Speaker 4: All in me.

1366
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 3: So we got to do before you go here on

1367
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:53,800
Speaker 3: this shoe. Everybody wants to know your top.

1368
01:08:55,840 --> 01:09:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean yes, right, top.

1369
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,560
Speaker 5: Time five.

1370
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:21,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir yes, live yeah yeah,

1371
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 7: top five, top five.

1372
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:32,640
Speaker 4: Changes every day? Can we going top five? Jacob blamore

1373
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 4: your top five? R and B singers, singers, fingers. We're

1374
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 4: gonna male and female just both.

1375
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 1: Have you sure you want to do it? Man?

1376
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:53,240
Speaker 4: Okay number one? Okay, not no order, but uh, Brandy.

1377
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: Come on come on yep?

1378
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Brandy using her You're using a clip from the

1379
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 5: R and B Mundy podcast. Onto it right now. Listen

1380
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 5: if I did love her so much I saw her.

1381
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 5: Now you have to come on this. You got you gotta.

1382
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,520
Speaker 5: You want to avoid litigation?

1383
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 4: Usher, Usher, big influence on me vocally, just performance, just

1384
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 4: like when I went out on tour. I'm like, I

1385
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 4: want to I want to wear the white jacket with

1386
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 4: the star on the back, just how he did on

1387
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 4: the Confession's tour. You know what I'm saying.

1388
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: And Usher sounds like that.

1389
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 4: Live Yep, he was doing it like you was singing

1390
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 4: that that live with the head mic. So you can't

1391
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 4: get away from the mic right the mic right here.

1392
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir.

1393
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 4: You know you gotta send that too.

1394
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: It's all voice.

1395
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 4: Bro, I'm crazy. I'm crazy for us. Uh USh, I'm

1396
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 4: gonna go. I'm gonna throw my brother Luke James in there, man,

1397
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 4: I throw my brother Luke monster, monster even I'm a

1398
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 4: stay current to man. I don't really think he get

1399
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 4: enough shine man. Avery Wilson cold hard.

1400
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: Blooded, cold, cool blood cold.

1401
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 4: He different, Okay, trying to maybe I should go back,

1402
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 4: go back a little more. Mike Man, MJ MJ bro

1403
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 4: human nature, like just from a kid to an adult,

1404
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 4: going through voice change, still maintaining tone, Like.

1405
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:40,560
Speaker 2: Mike went from Mike went from a vocalist to an instrument.

1406
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, the man of many voices. And I don't think

1407
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: that's ever been done.

1408
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah no, because every vocalist has just remained a vocal

1409
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 2: I just became a better vocal just a better vocalist

1410
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 2: that they've leaned on.

1411
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, just vocalizing.

1412
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: And whether it be whether be the vibrado you know,

1413
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 2: the tone, or or the tricks you know what I'm saying,

1414
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: or the ash.

1415
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: That goes with it.

1416
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 2: Michael graduated to being an instrument to where his voice

1417
01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: was keeping rhythm. His voice was that he would do tracks,

1418
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: he would be do instrumentation tracks with.

1419
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 4: His voice was like I'm like and I'm in the theater, like, oh,

1420
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 4: it's levels so.

1421
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 2: Much sould nobody's even tried, No, not that now, nobody's

1422
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,639
Speaker 2: even dared to tamper or venture into that space because

1423
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: it's almost like.

1424
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: We can't do that. That's nobody's ever gonna be able

1425
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah.

1426
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: I can't wait till the day to somebody just taps

1427
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: into that part, because that's what that's the great separator

1428
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: of Michael Jackson, the nine year old vocal. We've heard

1429
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: some nine year olds in church go crazy different, but

1430
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 2: to graduate to a to become instrumentation, yeap, I've never

1431
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 2: seen it.

1432
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, crazy wow. Never shout out to Jason Weaver too,

1433
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:14,759
Speaker 4: man like the Jackson that I want to say. Film

1434
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 4: introduced me to a lot of artists as well, you

1435
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like Weaver?

1436
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I rock with him? Okay? Is that five?

1437
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 4: That's five?

1438
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: You want to say another one? You want? You want?

1439
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 1: You're good?

1440
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, five, that's five.

1441
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 1: That's five. That's fine. Top five R and B songs, songs.

1442
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 4: Okay for like that change up every other day. But

1443
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 4: today I'm feeling I want to go see New Addition

1444
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago.

1445
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: As you should.

1446
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 4: If it is in Love new Edition, I'm like, this

1447
01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:52,240
Speaker 4: record is crazy, like and I'm looking at the arena

1448
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 4: like twenty thousand United and Chicago like crazy, going absolutely crazy.

1449
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 4: This just to have to movie too, Like it's just

1450
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 4: it's huge. So New Addition, if it isn't Love, an

1451
01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 4: old school favorite of mine is they don't Know John B.

1452
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, I love it. Wow.

1453
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 2: Yeah that song is special. Every time it come on. Yeah,

1454
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: every time it comes on, I don't, I.

1455
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: Don't, I can't.

1456
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 5: I can't think of another song that it feels like

1457
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 5: it sits in a place by itself, that track.

1458
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 4: So it's just like it come on just like yeah,

1459
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 4: when I'm in the cars. There's certain things that got.

1460
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: A play, play the whole song.

1461
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a forty minute drive run it back, man. Yeah,

1462
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 4: so it's one of them. I'm gonna go be two

1463
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 4: K got.

1464
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:43,520
Speaker 1: To be yeah.

1465
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a very Midwest song. Yeah, it got to

1466
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 5: is a very Midwest yeah. Yeah, having a Midwest.

1467
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: Talking.

1468
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a song record. That's the song that made

1469
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 2: me become a B two K thing.

1470
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like when they go live with them too,

1471
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, I just remember where I was as a kid,

1472
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, this is bro, this is crazy. So

1473
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 4: they just even know them and you know, like and

1474
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 4: meet him at a young age too, like crazy. We

1475
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 4: got two more thank you for this love two more. Hmmm,

1476
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go I think I mentioned it now. I'm

1477
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 4: gonna go usher, superstar, superstar, call up, call out, and

1478
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 4: then I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw me in there.

1479
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,719
Speaker 4: Come on, I'm gonna throw jail in there. Man Company

1480
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 4: Company by Jacobimo.

1481
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: Come on.

1482
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 4: The Jail album is out right now, right now, right now,

1483
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 4: right now, right now, right now.

1484
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 1: Listen.

1485
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 5: I said I was gonna throw y'all a curveball, so

1486
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 5: we're here seeing real quick said that.

1487
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: Who the coaches niggatta be walking because y'all listen, y'all

1488
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: got wait, y'all.

1489
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 4: Singers or what do you mean?

1490
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:06,919
Speaker 1: Who the cold is out of Milwaukee?

1491
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 4: Man singers, Man tank Man, you go, man, come on,

1492
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:12,320
Speaker 4: I would never bro I would never know you.

1493
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:13,840
Speaker 1: A legend. You give it to you.

1494
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 4: You're a legend, bro, But I feel like for me,

1495
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 4: like I'm my career is just different, Like you know

1496
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But like, yeah, bro, I I ain't

1497
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 4: he That's why I'm here, hear me. I flew here

1498
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 4: for this, you know what I'm saying. Who the code is?

1499
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: You take to me?

1500
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 2: I'm a singer, Okay, I'm a singer before I'm in

1501
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 2: that space. I'm an actor too, but.

1502
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,360
Speaker 4: I can't may not know who are from Milwaukee either though.

1503
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: I mean, is a Brenede It's Rico? Right? Is somebody

1504
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: else life is from Milwaukee? Or No?

1505
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 5: The young lady that was that used to sing what

1506
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,320
Speaker 5: it was from Milwaukee life night?

1507
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she passed, she passed to me. To me,

1508
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 2: you are the most well rounded, thank you, of all

1509
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 2: of us. So you're the You're the always talk I

1510
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 2: talk evolution. That's my thing. You are the evolution of us.

1511
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: You're the culmination of of all of us that came

1512
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: before you. You're the You're the byproduct of that. So there,

1513
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,600
Speaker 2: I mean, but it's not for me. You're not just Milwaukee.

1514
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: To me, I'm looking. I'm grading you on the scale

1515
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 2: of the industry as a whole. Yeah, as I look

1516
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 2: at the industry as a whole, I don't see a

1517
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 2: lot of.

1518
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 1: People better than you, bro.

1519
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 4: Wow, thank you man.

1520
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm waiting for your arena tour.

1521
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, where I can stand in the arena and

1522
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 2: be like I told you, right, I told you who

1523
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 2: that nigga was, Yes.

1524
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 1: Sir, Yeah, let's do it. Let's put it out there. Yeah,

1525
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's out there. It's happened.

1526
01:17:56,360 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 4: Coming to a to a nigga. I'm look, I got

1527
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 4: the stage stuff on. Now turn on the light.

1528
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,639
Speaker 2: You're let's build. Let's build a vultron. Let's build your

1529
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: super R and B artists. Okay, where you're going to

1530
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,480
Speaker 2: get what artists? You're going to get the vocal from,

1531
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 2: the performance style, the styling, the passion of the artists.

1532
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 4: Okay.

1533
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 2: And for you, who's going to be the choreographer? Mm hmmm,

1534
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 2: let's start with the vocal. Whose vocal are you getting

1535
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 2: to build your super R and B artists? Usher again,

1536
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 2: your vocals, your vocal.

1537
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 4: You can do anything. You can just do anything. Performance style,

1538
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 4: performance style, got it? I mean it's definitely it's c

1539
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 4: B bro, Like you gotta go see B. But you

1540
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 4: said choreographer to finish.

1541
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 2: Okay, you're trying to sell one hundred million records on

1542
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 2: one album future, that's right styling.

1543
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna put your flyship.

1544
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 4: On modern day m J vibes, you know what I mean.

1545
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: Nothing.

1546
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:13,799
Speaker 4: Me and Chris talked about this too, like the stuff

1547
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 4: that Mike Where's like, we can't really wear that again,

1548
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 4: but we can add you know, we can add stuff.

1549
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 1: To it, like we can do something created uniform Yeah.

1550
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like because.

1551
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: He created uniforms.

1552
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 2: So when you say us c B talking about it's like,

1553
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 2: it's amazing to me what Chris is able to do

1554
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 2: fashion wise because he's never allowed to anything.

1555
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 1: He doesn't have a uniform.

1556
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, he go crazy.

1557
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 2: He never knows what he's on a tour, and he

1558
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,520
Speaker 2: doesn't know what he's going to We can trust that.

1559
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 4: It's really freedom, freedom, freedom.

1560
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: The passion of the artist, the heart of the artist.

1561
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 4: James James Brown, come on that part out. Yeah, Yeah,

1562
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 4: I think I learned a lot about him in that movie.

1563
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,880
Speaker 4: Rest p Chadwick, Like, like I remember my dad was

1564
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 4: talking about it, just he was just taking hold of

1565
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 4: his career and just he he looked at himself as

1566
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 4: a business, you know.

1567
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 1: And listen at a time where there's a black man

1568
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: you can do that, do that.

1569
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,479
Speaker 4: I was like, no, no, yeah.

1570
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: We weren't allowed to eat with the promoter right with

1571
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: the label.

1572
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,120
Speaker 5: James going correct and then understood the economics of it. Yeah,

1573
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 5: you know what, I gotta do a lot of traveling.

1574
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 5: I'm a buy a plane.

1575
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah the first what what I'm a buy my I'm

1576
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,400
Speaker 1: by myself a private plane.

1577
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 4: I'm a buy it and then write it off on

1578
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 4: the business that I own that I don't.

1579
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, James Brown something And who's going to be the choreographer?

1580
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 4: Dan, I've said, listen Bobby Brown.

1581
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 5: Whoa imagine Bobby Brown telling you what you got to

1582
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 5: do when you get on that stage.

1583
01:20:55,240 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: Bobby Brown. Bro oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Iconic

1584
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: dance videos.

1585
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 5: Bobby Brown, every little step I take you iconic, like

1586
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 5: I kind.

1587
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 4: Of old a war shows. Like he was just coming

1588
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 4: out and just didn't care. He's just like, everybody get

1589
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 4: on these seats right now?

1590
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? What like he just like it was was attacking

1591
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: the crowd. I was like he was attacking the crowd.

1592
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 4: I'm like he was. I went rewind YouTube rewind, I

1593
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 4: ain't I gotta digest it. I gotta get that, you

1594
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.

1595
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 2: He was one man giving New Edition all they could

1596
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 2: handle on that any heartbreak tour I sent.

1597
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 1: I sent.

1598
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 5: A few of those videos to Jayden. Yeah, I said,

1599
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:55,559
Speaker 5: just just just just watch him, Jay so cold. I'm like,

1600
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,759
Speaker 5: young fella, watch him. He like everybody watches Mike, everybody

1601
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 5: watches Chris, watch Bobby the aggression.

1602
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because because in the dance space. In the

1603
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: dance space, there's there's there's there's good dancing, there's there's

1604
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 2: there's there's a good dancing all over the place, great dancing. Right,

1605
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 2: so many people are dancing, the great dancers, so many dancing.

1606
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 2: But that separator is what you said, something about when

1607
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 2: that dog comes out of a dancer, things get different.

1608
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 2: When Chris came out in all black fatigues yep, on

1609
01:22:39,520 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 2: that screen tour, Yeah, I said, you mean, ye.

1610
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 5: James Brown was me, James, that was mean. Those dances

1611
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 5: were mean.

1612
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 2: You gotta be he was laughing at other people after

1613
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 2: you hit the move who want to say, Okay, good

1614
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 2: luck to them.

1615
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 4: And that's and that's that's the thing. It's it's it's mindset.

1616
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 4: It's mindset on stage. Man, It's like, especially when the

1617
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,000
Speaker 4: crowd don't even know who you are, that's when you

1618
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 4: gotta have an ultimate confidence because I remember Chris was

1619
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 4: talking about that like early on and just he was

1620
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 4: proving himself. Then you know what I'm saying on that tour,

1621
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 4: like like nah, y'all about And that's how I felt

1622
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 4: when we popped off a Scream tour with Mama's behavior,

1623
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 4: DIGGI and MG, like I didn't feel like I had

1624
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 4: real records yet, but I'm like they about to see

1625
01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 4: who I am, who I am as a performer, you

1626
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I'm about to go. I'm about

1627
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 4: to win them over. And when the crowd like kind

1628
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 4: of anticipating her, like they like, I don't really know

1629
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 4: you that opener and you're in front of the curtain

1630
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 4: and you just like what it ain't No, Like it

1631
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 4: ain't person, it ain't personal, bro, But like it's personal in.

1632
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 2: Front of the curtain. It's different to people. People don't

1633
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 2: people don't know what that is.

1634
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like no, no, hell yeah, close the curtain.

1635
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: Two monitors, ye and one light.

1636
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 4: And I'm still traveling in that little mini van.

1637
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,600
Speaker 1: Talk about it it's like doing it's like doing a

1638
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: talent show at an arena. Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, it's

1639
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: not easy.

1640
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,720
Speaker 2: And to walk out on that stage and give it

1641
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 2: everything you got every night and not be discouraged.

1642
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 5: Yep, it's the separator, separate separator. You're here, So why

1643
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:31,160
Speaker 5: are you here? We got one more segment for you

1644
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,519
Speaker 5: may before we you know what I mean, because we

1645
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 5: you know we we know you know you're back on

1646
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,240
Speaker 5: the bird man, You're about to go do your thing,

1647
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? So you know we got

1648
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 5: we gotta you know, catch you when we can. It's

1649
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 5: a segment, man, you know, thanks, take it somewhere, Tank.

1650
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: Take it somewhere. You remember. I know it now. I

1651
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: ain't saying no. I ain't saying no na I ain't

1652
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 1: saying no names. I ain't saying no names. Who you was,

1653
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 1: what you did? Don't see she ain't saying no names. Yeah,

1654
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: so right now, Yeah, very very important part of the show.

1655
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 1: That niggas crazy.

1656
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 4: You'd be at home doing that.

1657
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 1: You'd be at home doing that.

1658
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:30,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do that tomorrow. It's gonna kill it.

1659
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's it.

1660
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 4: It's gonna love it. It's gonna go crazy.

1661
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: I love it.

1662
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,919
Speaker 5: Yes, it's a very very important part of this show. Okay,

1663
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 5: will you tell us a story? Okay, funny or fucked up?

1664
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 5: Are funny and fucked up?

1665
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 4: I don't know?

1666
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, you do the story, ain't it's probably.

1667
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 4: It may make up off a little butter. They really

1668
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 4: like that.

1669
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: Okay. The only rule to the game you can't say

1670
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: no name, no names. Yeah.

1671
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:04,640
Speaker 4: I was just getting out of the RCA deal and

1672
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 4: I'm discouraged around this time. I ain't gonna lie. I'm like,

1673
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, man, I just don't know. I don't know,

1674
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I just I'm just kind

1675
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 4: of feeling like that and kind of a vulnerable place

1676
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 4: to approach me for another deal, you know what I'm saying.

1677
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 4: And there was a particular artist that approached me, and

1678
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 4: I just remember, like I just remember feeling like, man,

1679
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 4: like I would love to work with you. I think

1680
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 4: we can make th music. But a deal just I

1681
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 4: don't know something.

1682
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:42,599
Speaker 1: Artists trying to sign you. Yeah, okay.

1683
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:45,759
Speaker 4: And I just remember being like, at a young age,

1684
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 4: at a young age, I remember having this discernment of

1685
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 4: like this ain't it like and I was and I

1686
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 4: was kind of like urgent, like kind of thirsty for another, like, man,

1687
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 4: I need it, I need to get back out here.

1688
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 4: But during that time, I just felt like this spirit

1689
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 4: on me, like nah, like I know I got I

1690
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 4: just I got something for you God, just like I

1691
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 4: got some for you. Just don't do that. Don't do that.

1692
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 4: And I want to say, just like, I'm just glad

1693
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 4: I didn't. I glad I didn't. Man. So But yeah,

1694
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 4: that's that's that's that's pretty much the story.

1695
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. That's it. I ain't really really

1696
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 1: much to ask you about the rest of the story.

1697
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes that person who tried to sign you still are free.

1698
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, still doing okay, I hate the story and.

1699
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 5: Give I gave the story. Uh, this is a collect call.

1700
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:54,519
Speaker 5: I see you doing good.

1701
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

1702
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 2: You know you know, I know we supposed to do

1703
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 2: some business back in the day, but you know, you know,

1704
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 2: I respect you, know you as a man. You chose

1705
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: your own direction and I'm proud of you.

1706
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: You know.

1707
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit you back a couple more til you

1708
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 2: probably recognize the number, uh, because it probably won't come up.

1709
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how these calls come up.

1710
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 1: But uh, you know this call is being recorded.

1711
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 2: They love you in here. I got like thirty more seconds, man,

1712
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 2: just letting you know. You know they fucking with you

1713
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 2: in here. They're fucking with you in here, and uh,

1714
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,759
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, get at me, man, I'm

1715
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 2: gonna hit you back.

1716
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:33,840
Speaker 1: In the few.

1717
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:41,000
Speaker 2: That's a boy, clearly, Yeah, that's a call left the

1718
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: message on your voice man, because you ain't pick up.

1719
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,439
Speaker 1: You don't recognize the number that was the collect call.

1720
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: Who it is?

1721
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just acting out the person you don't want

1722
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:53,759
Speaker 2: to tell us it is that said. I'm just acting

1723
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 2: it out, brother, Jacob Latimore. First of all, we thank you,

1724
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,599
Speaker 2: We appreciate you. We don't we do not take your time,

1725
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: your your your presence, your gifts we take.

1726
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: We take none of that.

1727
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: Likely like we everything we've said to you in private,

1728
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 2: we wanted to make sure we told you in public.

1729
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 4: I want I want to say thank you to Bro

1730
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,799
Speaker 4: because I remember when I dropped my LEO season project

1731
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 4: when you posted it on your page. So I mean

1732
01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:21,640
Speaker 4: you was like, Bro, this arm this is R and B.

1733
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 4: And you know, you know when you're independent, you're putting

1734
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 4: out your music. You don't like know who listening for real?

1735
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 4: So I do appreciate that man, like.

1736
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 1: No, we're serious support bro, We're brothers for real.

1737
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 5: So and you had one of my favorite residual challenges,

1738
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 5: that crazy thank you you went crazy?

1739
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 1: Thank you?

1740
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 4: No I seen it.

1741
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: I was like, did you think you went crazy? Did

1742
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: you think I see? It's just he's good, he's good.

1743
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 4: I was. It was like, I was like, let me

1744
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 4: let me remind people real quick, like.

1745
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: I do this.

1746
01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:56,599
Speaker 2: You went from the you went from the heart though,

1747
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,840
Speaker 2: like you went in life and music is always great.

1748
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 1: Yep.

1749
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 2: Life in music is always great. Your experience in real life,

1750
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 2: in real time and real is in music. It's just

1751
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 2: nobody can be there and.

1752
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 4: We all do it. You know what I'm saying. We

1753
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 4: all like them private moments that may not be public.

1754
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 4: We bring it to the record and now we're selling out.

1755
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 2: People feel it. People feel it differently. People feel everybody.

1756
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to know. Everybody wants to feel like you know,

1757
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,680
Speaker 2: and we're not. We're not above or higher than anybody.

1758
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 2: But people do see us differently in terms of they

1759
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 2: turn to us four things yep. And sometimes it is

1760
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 2: it is comfort in knowing that on a certain level,

1761
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 2: we're all going through the same thing. Yeah, absolutely, and

1762
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 2: we're all trying to figure it out. We've all had

1763
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 2: our heartbroken, we're all trying to figure out how to

1764
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,880
Speaker 2: pay this bill. We're all trying to We're all in

1765
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:52,640
Speaker 2: that space. And your residuous challenge was that it was

1766
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 2: more of that thank you Listen.

1767
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 1: I got my shit too. Yep, that's I loved. I

1768
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, R and B understand.

1769
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 4: I was real to you about how we're shooting it to.

1770
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 4: I said, come from the wall, pushing pushing hands fifty

1771
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 4: like I was just coming off set to I'm like,

1772
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 4: I'm seeing all these dps. Shoot, I'm like, I gotta

1773
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 4: shoot mine a certain way.

1774
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, mom. We we love you, brother.

1775
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:26,000
Speaker 2: I appreciate you whatever you're doing, wherever you're gonna be at.

1776
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 2: You know, you always let us know. We pull up

1777
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: on your support and chills and then don't stop here.

1778
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 2: But we are happy that we are able to have

1779
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:37,959
Speaker 2: a Jacob Lattimore episode.

1780
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 4: This hard.

1781
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait to watch shout out to the sun Rose. Yeah,

1782
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1783
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:49,440
Speaker 2: You see this, this is fine room. Don't you agree?

1784
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 2: You want to I mean because Jake, because James, and

1785
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 2: cheating right there.

1786
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, we will keep that in that hat.

1787
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 1: You ever wont to bowl.

1788
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 2: To get out of the army, you have won a

1789
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 2: bowl against the R and B Money Squad. Meet us

1790
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 2: at the sun Rose and get that ass whooping. Ladies

1791
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 2: and gentlemen. Name is Tank Valentine. And this is the

1792
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 2: R and B Money Podcast, the authority on all things

1793
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 2: R and B.

1794
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 1: And this has

1795
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 2: Been our brother, our loved one Milwaukee song Jacob blackwo