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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay

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Speaker 1: and Book podcast Network. Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tutor Dixon, and I am so glad you are

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Speaker 1: joining me today. I'm really excited to be joined here

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Speaker 1: by Adam Coleman. He is a former Democrat that speaks

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Speaker 1: honestly and openly about how the politicized media lied to

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Speaker 1: the conservative point of view. You've likely seen him out

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Speaker 1: there speaking on a number of different topics, from fatherhood

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Speaker 1: let's welcome Adam Coleman to the podcast. Adam is the

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Speaker 1: founder of Wrong Speak Publishing and the author of Black

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Speaker 1: Victim to Black Victor, in addition to a number of

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Speaker 1: other thought provoking columns across publications like The New York Post,

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Speaker 1: Daily Mail and more. Adam, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: being here. I'm really excited to chat with you. I

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Speaker 1: your I guess walking Away story, and I have to

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Speaker 1: tell you, your writing is just it just draws me in.

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Speaker 1: It is really, really impressive. So I'm so glad you

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's my pleasure, and I'm glad you like

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, your story is fascinating because I think that

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Speaker 1: as someone who ran for office, oftentimes you're doing this

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Speaker 1: and you're like, what am I saying wrong? How do

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Speaker 1: interesting as I read your article because you talk about

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Speaker 2: Oh very much. So, you know, it becomes very easy

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Speaker 2: then for me, you know, we talked about walking away.

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Speaker 2: I think it's very easy for people to, let's say,

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Speaker 2: Yes, both sides do this where on one side might

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. If you want to see

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Speaker 2: believe it's the early nineteen hundreds. It just you go

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Speaker 2: city after city after city across the country, and at

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Speaker 2: some point it's not about the people who are in there,

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Speaker 2: but it's about the party that chose to withdrawal decades ago.

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Speaker 2: And I hear the same rhetoric about getting the black vote, right, Oh,

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Speaker 2: we can't, we can't get them. They're not going to

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Speaker 2: vote for us anyway. They're not going to do this.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, don't get to Detroit. They won't even

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Speaker 1: think about you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't even go to Detroit, right, And I'm just like, well,

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Speaker 2: that's that's the mentality that led to where you're at now.

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Speaker 2: And I try to break it down for people in

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Speaker 2: a very analocal way. Sixty percent of black people live

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Speaker 2: in ten states. You can name those states by the

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Speaker 2: cities that they live in. Most black people live in

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Speaker 2: urban city centers. Where are the places that Republicans lose

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Speaker 2: every single election cycle. They lose in urban city centers.

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Speaker 2: There are no Republicans that run, I mean virtually no

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Speaker 2: Republicans that run. And quite literally there are no Republicans

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Speaker 2: to even face off against other Democrats that are there,

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Speaker 2: So it's not they're not trying, right, there is no

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Speaker 2: considered effort to try. And then what ends up happening

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Speaker 2: politically because money comes into play. They don't want to

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Speaker 2: spend money on something they know they're going to lose on,

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Speaker 2: and they're not willing to look at the long term

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Speaker 2: when it comes to it, So they say, let's spend

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Speaker 2: the mone and the places that were more likely to win.

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Speaker 2: But then you still negate you're not going to win

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Speaker 2: those places. And to me, analytically speaking, it makes no

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Speaker 2: sense when you have most of the population that lives

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Speaker 2: in one place and you say, no, we're not going

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Speaker 2: to go there, like you can't ship away at that like,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense to me. Every four years

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Speaker 2: we look at a presidential election, we look Pennsylvania read

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Speaker 2: and then they count Philadelphia and they count Pittsburgh, and

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Speaker 2: you lose every.

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Speaker 1: Single You said something about that where you grow up

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Speaker 1: is your impression of the United States of America. And

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Speaker 1: if you grow up in an area like Detroit, where

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Speaker 1: I mean the taxes are high, it is, the regulation

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Speaker 1: is crazy. You could never start your own business. You

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Speaker 1: need two hundred grand to even start your own business.

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Speaker 1: You need consultants. The city is crumbling, falling apart, fathers

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Speaker 1: or not in the home. If that is where you

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Speaker 1: are growing up, and that is your viewpoint of America,

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Speaker 1: then what do you think about these politicians that are

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Speaker 1: standing there with their family around them saying this is America.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that sort of like, no, that's not America. You

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Speaker 1: live in a fantasy. My America doesn't look like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And it doesn't help that there are people

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Speaker 2: that have good ideas that can help but aren't trying.

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Speaker 2: So it just seems like like people ask, well, how

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Speaker 2: come they don't vote Republican. I'm like, well, they don't

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Speaker 2: know any Republicans, like quite.

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Speaker 1: Literally, Yeah, you said you didn't know any Republicans personally.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't really know any Republicans. I probably met

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Speaker 2: a few throughout my life, but I didn't really know

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Speaker 2: any out Republicans. Republicans didn't come and knock on my door.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's the reality for so many people.

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Speaker 2: Their only version of what a Republican is is through

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Speaker 2: a left wing filter while watching CNN, or they'll show

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Speaker 2: the craziest clips on the Daily Show, you know of

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Speaker 2: Louis Gohmert saying something crazy for a second, or taking

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Speaker 2: him out of context, of Marjorie Taylor Green saying something

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Speaker 2: off the wall, but they ignore everything else that she says. So,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's something. It's something that I don't think

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Speaker 2: a lot of people on the right realize, is that

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Speaker 2: propaganda is real and propaganda strong, and there's no real

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Speaker 2: world example to pull them away from that propaganda. I

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Speaker 2: started having real world examples to measure up against what

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Speaker 2: they're saying, and I'm like, wait a second, but that

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Speaker 2: doesn't sound like the person that I know, right, So

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Speaker 2: I'm able to use a real world example to confirm

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Speaker 2: that this is a lie, And a lot of people

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Speaker 1: No, And I think that some of these folks that

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Speaker 1: are running for office, they live it's the same for them.

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Speaker 1: Where they live looks a lot different than those areas.

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Speaker 1: So if you have a Marjorie Taylor Green saying this

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Speaker 1: is what my community wants, it is a lot different

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Speaker 1: than what you see in the city of Detroit, in

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Speaker 1: the city of Chicago. And so she's speaking to a

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Speaker 1: small group because those are the people she needs to

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Speaker 1: have vote for her. And that is sort of an

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Speaker 1: interesting system in the United States because then she became

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Speaker 1: the face of the Republican party because the left wing

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Speaker 1: media wants to say, oh, this is what every Republican

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Speaker 1: thinks the United States is No, she just is talking

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Speaker 1: to her base, her supporters, and so we don't. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you have a Republican that is not in that situation,

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Speaker 1: it's different. And that's been kind of an interesting situation

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Speaker 1: with what we see about this whole indictment, impeachment, all

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Speaker 1: of these things, because you've got the one side that's

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Speaker 1: going after Donald Trump and the other side that's going

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Speaker 1: after Joe Biden, and we are in this legal conundrum

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Speaker 1: right now as to whether or not you should attack

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Speaker 1: a former president for these things. But also I even say,

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Speaker 1: look at the situation with Joe Biden, because you've got

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Speaker 1: But those are the people that are like the Marjorie

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Speaker 1: Taylor Greens, who live in the area where they know

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Speaker 1: they're going to win no matter what. There is that

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Speaker 1: group of independence that just says, I just want to

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Speaker 1: hear what you're going to do for me. I want

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Speaker 1: the attack on the other side to stop. I just

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Speaker 1: want to hear what you're going to do for me,

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Speaker 1: And that message seems to be getting clouded. That message

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Speaker 1: on how are we going to get home prices down,

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Speaker 1: how are we going to get interest rates down? How

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Speaker 1: are we going to improve national security? How is it

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Speaker 1: going to be cheaper for me to go to the

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Speaker 1: gas station and the grocery store. But right now those

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Speaker 1: messages are getting clouded because each I think what you

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Speaker 1: said at the beginning is so key, each side is

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Speaker 1: becoming so ingrained in what they have to do to

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Speaker 1: defend their side. They're not talking about what they need

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Speaker 1: to do to serve us.

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Speaker 2: Everything you said I completely agree with. There's too much

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Speaker 2: of a polarization when it comes to our politics, and

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Speaker 2: there's too much of certain people winning and everybody else losing.

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Speaker 2: For a loudmouthed politician, they win because they get the microphone.

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Speaker 2: We have these upper class elitist journalists who get to

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Speaker 2: frame what America is and say, no, these are the

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Speaker 2: most important matters. You know. For me, I'm black, so

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Speaker 2: the most important thing is racism, right, rather than like, well,

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Speaker 2: I care about economics, right, I care about job opportunities,

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Speaker 2: I care about our border situation, I care about human trafficking.

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Speaker 2: I care about a whole bunch of different things. And actually,

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Speaker 2: funny enough, I know a lot of other black people

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Speaker 2: who care about these things as well. So oh, wait

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Speaker 2: a minute, everybody cares about these.

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Speaker 1: Things, right, Yeah, that sees no color, right, And that

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Speaker 1: sees no colors.

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Speaker 2: So that that's the part that I think there's a disconnect.

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Speaker 2: I think there is a there's a class aspect to

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Speaker 2: this that the loudest people tend to be the people

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Speaker 2: who have the most access, most resources, and they negate

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Speaker 2: everything that regular people actually care about. So that's why

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Speaker 2: my voice as someone who's just a regular person who's

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Speaker 2: been poor, middle class, I'm doing okay, I'm not living

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Speaker 2: check to check anymore, finally having some sort of voice

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Speaker 2: and contributing something to say that the people who are

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Speaker 2: supposed to represent us aren't and they don't speak to

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Speaker 2: my concerns, and they're way too concerned about winning some

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Speaker 2: election or getting some cloud or making more money, and

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Speaker 2: they don't care about the circumstances for regular Americans.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon podcast. I remember years ago speaking to

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Speaker 1: a man who had been in the civil rights movement

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Speaker 1: with Martin Luther King, and I said to him, what

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Speaker 1: are we doing wrong with the minority communities? How can

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Speaker 1: we speak differently? And he said, why would you speak differently?

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Speaker 1: We all believe the same thing. And I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I think that we just we just feel like again,

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Speaker 1: it's that moment where the dad walks into my rally

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Speaker 1: and goes. I thought I was going to be attacked,

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Speaker 1: but I think the same as you. It's like that

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Speaker 1: awakening and it's really hard to cross that line. But

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Speaker 1: you've been doing that with a new series you call

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Speaker 1: Breaking Bread. Tell us a little bit about that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yes, it's a new project that basically the concept is.

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Speaker 2: You know, for me, I used to travel a lot.

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Speaker 2: I still travel, but one of the things I would

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Speaker 2: do is solo travel and I meet people from different countries,

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Speaker 2: especially throughout Europe, and I would go back to places

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Speaker 2: to meet up with certain people and we would always

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Speaker 2: sit down and have a meal and just talk and

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Speaker 2: I would talk American politics with them because everybody cares

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Speaker 2: about American politics, and it was just something that was relaxing,

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Speaker 2: you know, conversations with Australians, Germans, English, people in Spanish,

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Speaker 2: you name it, and they would all have questions about

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Speaker 2: American society, American culture, American politics, and it was always

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Speaker 2: a very eye opening thing because I got to hear

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Speaker 2: their perspective on how they saw things, and I just

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Speaker 2: wanted to create something that was a similar vein where

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Speaker 2: we just sit down, we have a casual conversation talking politics,

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Speaker 2: talking culture, where it's not necessarily a podcasting style. It's

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Speaker 2: all in person and we're having a meal and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: how's that food, by the way, you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: we're We're just having a conversation, like how with anybody else.

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Speaker 2: It's not structured in a way like I know exactly

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Speaker 2: what we're going to talk about other than introducing each other.

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Speaker 2: But other than that, it can go either way and

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Speaker 2: it's it's very comforting. It doesn't feel like an interview

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Speaker 2: or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: So where do you see it?

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Speaker 2: It's on YouTube. They can they can go to YouTube

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Speaker 2: dot com, slash at wrong, underscore speak, you know, or

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Speaker 2: they could search Breaking Bread. And also I have it

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Speaker 2: on my substack Adambkolman dot subsec dot.

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Speaker 1: Com awesome, tell us about your book, to tell people

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Speaker 1: where they can get your book, because honestly, again I

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Speaker 1: want to say, just reading the one article that you

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Speaker 1: have out there on your site that I read, I

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Speaker 1: was like, this is there is something special about this

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Speaker 1: man's writing. It really does draw you in. I think

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Speaker 1: people will really enjoy your book.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate you saying that. Yeah, my book

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Speaker 2: was actually the very first thing that I wrote. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to write something. I started writing in shortly after

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Speaker 2: George Floyd. I wanted to write something because it felt

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Speaker 2: like no one was saying what I was saying and

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Speaker 2: how I wanted to say it. There are people who

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Speaker 2: I generally agree with, but they weren't saying in the

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Speaker 2: way that I wanted to be said. So initially I

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Speaker 2: wanted to write about race, but ultimately with the book

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Speaker 2: is talking about the importance of family. So I talk

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Speaker 2: a lot about my childhood growing up without my father,

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Speaker 2: how it impacted me, and to link it into I

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Speaker 2: think that is the greatest issue facing Black Americans, and

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Speaker 2: then also linking into is the greatest issue facing all Americans.

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Speaker 2: Nearly a quarter of children grow up in separate homes

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Speaker 2: from their parents. So family dysfunction is something that is

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Speaker 2: underneath all the dysfunctional things that we're seeing in society,

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Speaker 2: and it's tearing us apart, slowly but surely. And I

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Speaker 2: wanted to use this kind of like race as a

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Speaker 2: trojan horse. I do talk about race throughout the book,

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Speaker 2: but on your beneath it is talking about morality. Underneath,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about family, the impact on fathers. I talk

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Speaker 2: about feminism a little bit, how it's impacting a lot

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Speaker 2: of children, including black children, but from much of the

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Speaker 2: things I'm talking about, you know, childhood development, psychology, all

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Speaker 2: these different aspects I'm tossing into one book. So it's

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Speaker 2: not just one thing. It's not a grievance book. It's

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Speaker 2: very much so going from being a black black victim,

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Speaker 2: which is I'm talking about me personally, and I'm also

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Speaker 2: talking about a cultural aspect to becoming a black victor,

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Speaker 2: which I am today. So it's very it's a very

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Speaker 2: very personal book, and I think the people who've read

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Speaker 2: it take a lot from it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I honestly, I really do think it

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Speaker 1: seems like just listening to you talk today, honestly and

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Speaker 1: reading this article, but also understanding what it was like

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Speaker 1: running for office, and all of the messages that you

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Speaker 1: get from the surrounding people around you, like you can't

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Speaker 1: speak to this person, you won't understand this. Why aren't

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Speaker 1: we trying? And I think for politicians out there, it's

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Speaker 1: the best thing you can do is read this book

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Speaker 1: and try to understand what other people's lives are like

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Speaker 1: that you have not experienced, because you are very open

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Speaker 1: and very detailed about that. And I just want to

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Speaker 1: say I appreciate you. I thank you for being on

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Speaker 1: here today, and I encourage everyone to go out and

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Speaker 1: get your book. Adam Coleman, thank you, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure, and.

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