WEBVTT - Episode 1: “Forever Pain”

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<v Speaker 1>I have nightmares about this. I have nightmares that she's

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<v Speaker 1>asking for help and I can't help her. That she

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<v Speaker 1>has been found after all these years, and she's alive,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know. I just want to know what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to her, But not knowing as hard picturing the

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<v Speaker 1>fear that she must have been in when whoever took

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<v Speaker 1>her took her and did whatever they did. I can

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<v Speaker 1>only imagine the terror that she was going through in

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<v Speaker 1>the last you know, the last thoughts that she was.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinking when she died.

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<v Speaker 1>It's horrific for anyone to go through that. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just horrific.

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<v Speaker 3>Beneath the folksy, postcard perfect surface of any small American

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<v Speaker 3>town lies a hint of evil few can imagine actually

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<v Speaker 3>exists within their peaceful lives. Most never come face to

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<v Speaker 3>face with it, and yet everyone understands they are, perhaps

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<v Speaker 3>closer than they might think, to being swallowed up by it.

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<v Speaker 3>Having a loved one go missing creates a grim reality,

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<v Speaker 3>forcing family members to experience the worst life can throw

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<v Speaker 3>at you. Their only weapon of defense within that struggle hope.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always carried hope.

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<v Speaker 3>No matter how long it's been an unsolved murder leaves

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<v Speaker 3>behind a quiet sorrow and an intense gravity. In many ways,

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<v Speaker 3>an incredible sense of lost identity seeps into everyday life.

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<v Speaker 3>It's what some refer to as forever pain.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the one thing about Dana's case is that

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<v Speaker 4>Bitten County skill to this day, enjoys a very low

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<v Speaker 4>crime I'm rate it is extremely rare for it to

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<v Speaker 4>be a stranger, a stranger abduction, or at least not

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<v Speaker 4>immediately understandable what happened. Right, people don't get kidnapped off

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<v Speaker 4>parking lots. I would imagine then people didn't lock their cars,

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<v Speaker 4>they left their keys in the car at the grocery store,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they let their doors open. And so not

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<v Speaker 4>only for that to happen to a young girl, but

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<v Speaker 4>also for it to be not immediately known what happened

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<v Speaker 4>creates fear and panic in folks. I would say it's

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<v Speaker 4>not an overstated, say that's an earth shattering event in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of crime in ben County.

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<v Speaker 3>Murder is such a profound tragedy it can take a

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<v Speaker 3>lifetime to not only understand what happened to a victim,

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<v Speaker 3>but the process, what their loved ones went through.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a part of.

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<v Speaker 3>The true crime experience, rarely given more than a cursory glance.

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<v Speaker 3>The certainty of living with enormous loss. Murder moreover, divides

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<v Speaker 3>families and sometimes puts neighbors and even friends at odds.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to tell you it can go either way.

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<v Speaker 6>I have seen small communities that it'll bring them together.

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<v Speaker 6>It will bring folks that haven't been together with the

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<v Speaker 6>same mindset, and so they start to kind of look

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<v Speaker 6>out for each other. It becomes almost like a natural disaster.

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<v Speaker 6>Would They tend to talk, they tend to interact, the

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<v Speaker 6>division is gone. That's one one thing that I have

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<v Speaker 6>actually seen happen in smaller communities, and I can really

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<v Speaker 6>only speak to a smaller community, and so I would

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<v Speaker 6>say that it sometimes can go either way. I've seen

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<v Speaker 6>it bring a community together and they look out for

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<v Speaker 6>each other and they're concerned and they start to talk.

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<v Speaker 6>And then certainly i've seen it do the other side,

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<v Speaker 6>where you have two battlegrounds.

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<v Speaker 3>Those varying factors, however, can be an asset to a

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<v Speaker 3>cold case investigation, and as I would soon learn, detectives

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes play both sides against each other.

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<v Speaker 6>I think you get more from a community when They're

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<v Speaker 6>divided because everybody wants their opinion heard, and they want

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<v Speaker 6>to explain why they feel the way they do, and

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<v Speaker 6>they want somebody to listen and acknowledge that their opinion

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<v Speaker 6>counts on this. So I've received more confidential informants, people

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<v Speaker 6>then off of the street on patrol that would say, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I know you're working on this, and I

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<v Speaker 6>knew that family, or I've seen that family or what

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<v Speaker 6>have you, and I just need you to note this,

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<v Speaker 6>And then they'll want to recount any story that they

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<v Speaker 6>may have had or heard.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact is, murder changes everything, and unsolved murder magnifies

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<v Speaker 3>that change, and when murders start to multiply, all hell

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<v Speaker 3>breaks loose.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is em William Phelps.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm an investigative journalist and author of more than forty

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<v Speaker 3>true crime books. This is season four of Paper Ghosts

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<v Speaker 3>the Ozarks. I arrived in Arkansas during the spring of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three, there to look into a three decades

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<v Speaker 3>old cold case a young woman, Danas Stidham, who'd gone

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<v Speaker 3>missing on a beautiful Midsummer day in nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 7>I just see good to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Benton County, Arkansas is a community of about three hundred

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<v Speaker 3>thousand people and literally built by Walmart, which is headquartered

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<v Speaker 3>in Bentonville. One of my first contacts was a woman

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<v Speaker 3>who knew more about Dana Stidham than most anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Christy Smith. I am Dina Sidam's cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>We grew up together in our whole life. She was

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<v Speaker 1>a year older than I was. We were pretty much inseparable,

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<v Speaker 1>our mothers or sisters. They were together all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We were together all the time. She was more of

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<v Speaker 1>a sister than a cousin.

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<v Speaker 3>At eighteen years old, during the summer of nineteen eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 3>Dana was at that crossroads stage of life we all

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<v Speaker 3>face in our youth, looking forward to the future after

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<v Speaker 3>graduating from Gravit High School, deciding which path to take.

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<v Speaker 1>We would always go swimming together, and we went camping

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<v Speaker 1>one year in Missouri. And why we were camping, We

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<v Speaker 1>went to Whitewater. Our parents dropped us off at Whitewater

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<v Speaker 1>while they went shopping, and I remember we got so sunburned,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were determined we were not going to leave early.

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<v Speaker 1>We were going to stay no matter how red we got.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the rest of the Campion trip. We were

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<v Speaker 1>just miserable because we were so burned, but we still

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<v Speaker 1>we still managed to have fun.

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<v Speaker 7>And what kind of kid was she?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she was good. She was just like any kid.

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<v Speaker 1>We we were rambunctious when we wanted to be well

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<v Speaker 1>behaved when we chose.

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<v Speaker 2>She was pretty quiet when she.

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<v Speaker 7>Was a child ten twelve that area. What did she

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<v Speaker 7>talk about she wanted to do in life?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, at ten and twelve, we really we really didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any plans in life. I don't really know that

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<v Speaker 1>we ever even talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>The future at that age.

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<v Speaker 7>We lived in a moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we did.

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<v Speaker 1>We lived in the moment and just took every day

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<v Speaker 1>as it was and played and enjoyed our lives.

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<v Speaker 3>And Dana and Christie were raised in Gravit, Arkansas, in

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<v Speaker 3>the northwest corner of the state, quite close to the

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<v Speaker 3>Missouri by Gravit had a population of just fifteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Back then, Gravit was not much different than it's now,

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<v Speaker 1>very small, very close knit community. We had a very

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<v Speaker 1>small school system. In the last several years that has

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<v Speaker 1>grown tremendously, but it was very small and we did

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<v Speaker 1>kindergarten through sixth was all one school and then eighth

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<v Speaker 1>and ninth, was Junior high tenth through Telfa's High School.

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<v Speaker 1>Very Small had a community swimming pool.

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<v Speaker 2>During the summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Her dad would after we cleaned the house because I

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<v Speaker 1>stayed with him during while my parents worked, after we'd

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<v Speaker 1>cleaned the house and he would take us and drop

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<v Speaker 1>us at the city pool and we would slim swim

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<v Speaker 1>and probably from about one till five and every day

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we would do.

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<v Speaker 7>Kids love water.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, we do still love water again in the summers.

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<v Speaker 1>They lived in highwa See. So at the time they

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<v Speaker 1>lived in highwa See. Which have you been to haigwa See.

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<v Speaker 2>Very Small.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one dairy queen there at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>dirt road that she lived on. So we would on

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<v Speaker 1>a good day we would walk to the dairy queen

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<v Speaker 1>and have lunch, always bring her dad something back. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was just, you know, just fun, just kids enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>life and having fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Dana Stidham was enthusiastic about that summer of nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>Just after high school, she'd moved out of her parents'

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<v Speaker 3>home and into a small apartment in Centerton with her

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one year old brother Larry, along with two of

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<v Speaker 3>her closest friends. She was spreading her wings for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time in her life.

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<v Speaker 8>From what we know, and there's a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 8>that we don't know, but from what we know, she

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<v Speaker 8>was at her parents' house doing laundry. It was her

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<v Speaker 8>and her dad in the Highwassee area. It was around

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<v Speaker 8>two something in the afternoon. We know that Dana placed

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<v Speaker 8>a phone call to a friend and that was around

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<v Speaker 8>two fourteen PM, and she talked to that friend for

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<v Speaker 8>approximately twenty minutes so talking. I think the phone record

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<v Speaker 8>show that disconnect at around two thirty five PM. So

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<v Speaker 8>she leaves sometimes shortly after that to go to the store.

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<v Speaker 8>Her dad wasn't feeling well. She needed some laundry detergent,

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<v Speaker 8>so she leaves the house. We know she stops and

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<v Speaker 8>gets gas. She gets like five dollars worth of gas,

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<v Speaker 8>writes a check for I think ten, and gets like

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<v Speaker 8>three dollars cash back or something to that effect. So

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<v Speaker 8>short trip to get some gas proceeds on from there

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<v Speaker 8>to what was then known as Phillip's Grocery, which is

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<v Speaker 8>probably from her house. Back then, you're talking about fifteen

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<v Speaker 8>minutes to get their tops.

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<v Speaker 3>A dozen or more people saw Dana at the Phillips

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<v Speaker 3>that day. They knew her because she used to work

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<v Speaker 3>at the same store.

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<v Speaker 8>We talked to a couple of those people. We know

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<v Speaker 8>that she checked out at three seventeen because the receipt

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<v Speaker 8>is time stamped, so it kind of shows. Now we

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<v Speaker 8>can't say for certain she left the store left the

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<v Speaker 8>parking lot at three seventeen. We know she checked out

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<v Speaker 8>at three seventeen. She's seen in the parking lot talking

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<v Speaker 8>to a guy. There's individuals that saw her in the

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<v Speaker 8>parking lot, older gentlemen. We don't really know how old.

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<v Speaker 3>That's hunt to portray a current lieutenant with the Benton

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<v Speaker 3>County Sheriff's Office. What stands out to me in Lieutenant

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<v Speaker 3>Petray's comments is that there's no solid evidence to prove

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<v Speaker 3>Dana actually left the parking lot alone, no CCTV watching

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<v Speaker 3>her drive out. There's only an assumption, based on what

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<v Speaker 3>happens over the next twenty four hours, that she left

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<v Speaker 3>the parking lot by herself. Secondly, while at the store,

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<v Speaker 3>she interacted with several people who knew her. I stood

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<v Speaker 3>in the parking lot of the Phillips with a woman

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<v Speaker 3>who used to work there with Dana and was there

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<v Speaker 3>that last July afternoon Dana was seen. It's called Harps now,

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<v Speaker 3>but the parking lot, although long ago repaved, is basically

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<v Speaker 3>set up the same. It's two tiered, one level overlooking

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<v Speaker 3>the other, so you could literally park on the upper level,

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<v Speaker 3>which butts up against a hill and woods, and quietly

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<v Speaker 3>stalk the lower level, watching people come and go in

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<v Speaker 3>and out of the store. Here's a former co worker

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<v Speaker 3>of Dana's.

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<v Speaker 9>She had an aura about her. She was beautiful, but

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<v Speaker 9>she just was just so sweet all the time. People

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<v Speaker 9>were drawn to her. Really, Yeah, everyone loved her.

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<v Speaker 3>Dana was a beautiful young woman, which is important in

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<v Speaker 3>this story because she had several young men as well

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<v Speaker 3>as several older men chasing after her. Her brunette hair

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<v Speaker 3>flowed past her shoulders, feathered and fluffed high. After all,

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<v Speaker 3>it was the eighties. Petit Dana was five to two

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<v Speaker 3>and about one hundred and five pounds.

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<v Speaker 7>So what was it like around here back then in

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<v Speaker 7>eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, there's a lot of construction going on, and so

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<v Speaker 9>our store would make a lot of sandwiches and food

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<v Speaker 9>for the construction guys that would come in. We were

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<v Speaker 9>pretty busy doing that. A lot of growth. There's a

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<v Speaker 9>lot of new people coming in a lot of growth.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was really secluded the parking lot.

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<v Speaker 9>Then, yeah, I wouldn't want to be out here by myself.

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<v Speaker 3>I asked Lieutenant Petray what old meant in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>the gentleman seen talking to Dana in the parking lot

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<v Speaker 3>in the afternoon she went missing.

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<v Speaker 5>Fifty could be all.

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<v Speaker 8>It's all relative to the individual that you're talking to,

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<v Speaker 8>the witness, So we don't know, and that's one of

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<v Speaker 8>those things like there's things we know and there's things

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<v Speaker 8>we don't know. That's one of the things that we

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<v Speaker 8>don't really know. It's also kind of not baffling but

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<v Speaker 8>discouraging that she's supposedly seen, but it's unknown as far

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<v Speaker 8>as what direction she's leaving. Now, if you know Harps,

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<v Speaker 8>you can basically go north, south, east west from there,

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<v Speaker 8>like it's not cornered to where you have to go

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<v Speaker 8>one direction. So again that complicates the investigation because we

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<v Speaker 8>don't know when she leaves that parking lot which direction

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<v Speaker 8>she goes, but we're pretty sure that she leaves the

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<v Speaker 8>parking lot. Here's where it gets complicated. There's an individual

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<v Speaker 8>and his wife that sees her there at Phillips out

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<v Speaker 8>in the parking lot. They later that same day see

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<v Speaker 8>her vehicle sitting on the side of the road south

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<v Speaker 8>of Phillips, about a mile south, sitting by what's known

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<v Speaker 8>as the Bellevista Museum.

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<v Speaker 3>This location will become very important to law enforcement within

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four hours and a vital piece of this puzzle.

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<v Speaker 3>As I begin to unpack the early narrative of facts

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<v Speaker 3>behind what happened.

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<v Speaker 8>Parked on the side of the road, there's a white

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<v Speaker 8>van that's supposedly parked in front of it. There's two males,

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<v Speaker 8>one guy squatted down by the side of the car

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<v Speaker 8>looking at the tire. Supposedly he had a scraggly beard mustache.

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<v Speaker 8>It gets more interesting. There's a guy looking at the tire.

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<v Speaker 8>There's also a female and another guy on the other

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<v Speaker 8>side of the car talking. This guy positively identifies this

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<v Speaker 8>girl as being Dana. At that time, he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 8>of anything, so later on he comes back, both vehicles

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<v Speaker 8>are gone. Okay. Sometime between three and five that same day,

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<v Speaker 8>the twenty fifth, there's another individual that sees a truck

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<v Speaker 8>parked behind a car, two males and one female. Again

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<v Speaker 8>same two males, one female, driver's side tire looks flat.

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<v Speaker 8>We know that Dana had a low tire, so that

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<v Speaker 8>kind of matches. This guy also identifies her as Dana.

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<v Speaker 3>Dana's cousin and best friend. Christy Smith remembers the events

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<v Speaker 3>of that day twenty five years ago as if it

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<v Speaker 3>all happened yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>She goes to the house and she is going there

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<v Speaker 1>to do laundry. They don't have a washer and dryer

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<v Speaker 1>at their apartment, so she goes over there to do

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<v Speaker 1>her laundry. Her dad asked her if she can run

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<v Speaker 1>to the Grosser store and get him some medication and

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<v Speaker 1>a few things that he needs from the store. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>she's always willing to do anything for her dad. She

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<v Speaker 1>says that's fine, she'll do that. She goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>store and that's the last time anybody's are her.

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<v Speaker 7>And when do you first hear about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Later that evening, I would probably say it's five or six,

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<v Speaker 1>after Georgia got home from work and Laurence had told her, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Dane's went to the store and she's never come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Georgia calls me, wants to know if I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>from her. Calls her son, see if he's heard from her.

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<v Speaker 1>None of us have heard from her, So that's when

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<v Speaker 1>we start getting nervous, because she didn't If she was

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<v Speaker 1>going to the store for her dad, she would go

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<v Speaker 1>and she would come back with what he needed. She

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<v Speaker 1>would have finish her laundry, she would go home, and

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<v Speaker 1>I believe she had a date that night, so she

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<v Speaker 1>would have come home and gotten ready for what her

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<v Speaker 1>plans were.

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<v Speaker 3>Whenever you begin to reinvestigate an unsolved crime, particularly a

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<v Speaker 3>cold case, victimology is one of your primary tasks. You

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<v Speaker 3>have to get a clear picture of who the victim is,

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<v Speaker 3>what they were doing within the context of what happened

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<v Speaker 3>and when. Who were her friends, the crowd she hung

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<v Speaker 3>around with, how was their home life, boyfriends, ex boyfriends.

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<v Speaker 3>I spoke to a lot of people who knew Danas

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<v Speaker 3>did them personally at the time she went missing. I

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<v Speaker 3>obtained hundreds of pages of documents, including interviews with friends, family,

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<v Speaker 3>and others at the time the case broke, along with

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<v Speaker 3>exclusive audio which you will hear throughout this season. When

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<v Speaker 3>you're young, nobody knows you better than your best friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Christy Smith identified intimate details about Dana and her family

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<v Speaker 3>no one else could here. For example, she talks about

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<v Speaker 3>Dana's parents.

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<v Speaker 7>Tell me about Lawrence and Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>They been together since Georgia was fourteen, I think Lawrence

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<v Speaker 1>was probably sixteen. Very very young couple, you know, had

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<v Speaker 1>their moments, married in divorce several times, but only to

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<v Speaker 1>each other. They never married anyone else besides each other.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a few miss carriages before they were able

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<v Speaker 1>to conceive that son and carry him to term, so

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<v Speaker 1>he was a nice surprise, and then the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to do it again with Dana was

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<v Speaker 1>to them kind of a miracle. They were very proud

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<v Speaker 1>of their kids and very attached to their kids, very protective.

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia was, again, you know, just a young pair, young mother,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lawrence was a young father.

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<v Speaker 2>And Lawrence was great.

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<v Speaker 3>Sadly, Dana's father, Lawrence, passed away in nineteen ninety nine

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<v Speaker 3>at the age of fifty.

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<v Speaker 7>How was Dana around them?

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<v Speaker 2>Dana was very good. She was spoiled.

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<v Speaker 1>She could do whatever she wanted, and as she got

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<v Speaker 1>older in junior high and high school, and we all

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<v Speaker 1>did things that we probably shouldn't have done in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>but sometimes her mom chose to not believe that Dana

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<v Speaker 1>was doing the things everybody else was doing. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of her mind she knew that she was.

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<v Speaker 1>And Lawrence, she had Lawrence, you know, wrapped around her

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<v Speaker 1>little finger. He just thought she was the world. She

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't in any of the clubs. She was very popular,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of friends, didn't participate in the club so much.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't dance, but not not at school. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a separate dance class that she would do. She wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in sports in the boys. Every teenage girl was in

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<v Speaker 1>the boys.

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<v Speaker 7>And did she have a boyfriend in high school?

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<v Speaker 1>One boyfriend her senior year she had one that she

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<v Speaker 1>was more deep into the relationship. I think she had

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<v Speaker 1>dated several people. And she dated a gentleman that she

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<v Speaker 1>worked with at Harps. You know, throughout high school she

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<v Speaker 1>had different boyfriends. One of the football players. She dated

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<v Speaker 1>him for a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Dana had quit working there about three weeks before her

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<v Speaker 3>disappearance and started a new job at Kmart in Rogers, Arkansas. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>she had been working for only three days as of

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<v Speaker 3>July twenty fifth, nineteen eighty nine. And so, what did

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<v Speaker 3>she talk about in high school that she wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>do after high school?

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<v Speaker 1>She talked about wanting to go to college or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she would talk about wanting to live somewhere different and

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<v Speaker 1>getting married and kind of just doing the married life.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't have any really big plans.

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<v Speaker 7>Was she into art.

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<v Speaker 2>She was. She did like to draw, She liked to paint.

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<v Speaker 1>Her dad did a lot of woodwork, so she would

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<v Speaker 1>draw pictures and paint on the woodwork. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>like the paintings and that sort of art. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like a hobby.

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<v Speaker 7>And so high school graduation comes and she moves in

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<v Speaker 7>with Larry, her brother was She lived.

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<v Speaker 2>With me for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I got married very young at sixteen, and my husband

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<v Speaker 1>and I and our little girl. We lived halfway between

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<v Speaker 1>Gravet and Hawassee, and she, like everybody is ready to

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<v Speaker 1>get out of their parents' house, so she moved in

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<v Speaker 1>with us for a few months. We didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>spare room, so she brought her day bed and put

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<v Speaker 1>it in the living room and that's where she would sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, we would all just hang out.

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<v Speaker 7>And did she work at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>She was working at Harps at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>She did that for a few months and then Larry

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<v Speaker 1>and his girlfriend they were looking for an apartment and

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't afford it on their own, so they all decided, Dana, Larry,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dana's friend all decided that they would just get

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<v Speaker 1>one together so they could all split the rent and

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<v Speaker 1>make it more affordable for all of them. She wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the extra freedom, wanted to have her own

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<v Speaker 1>room and all that kinds of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Dana had July twenty fifth off from Kmart. Working had

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<v Speaker 3>always been important to her since she was sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 3>she had always maintained a job of some sort.

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<v Speaker 1>Her parents, you know, didn't have a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dana was. She was fancying and she liked the

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<v Speaker 1>preppy clothes and all that stuff, so she knew if

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<v Speaker 1>she wanted that in a car and gas money and

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<v Speaker 1>she had work.

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<v Speaker 7>Did she ever talk about or mention that anybody was

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<v Speaker 7>being weird around her, stalking her or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>The only two things I remember was she would talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the gentleman of the store, the older guy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the older guy worked in produce or meat or something,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 7>What would she say about him?

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<v Speaker 1>She would just say that he would tell dirty jokes

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<v Speaker 1>or talk dirty to him and things like that.

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<v Speaker 7>And did she ever talk about him following her out

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<v Speaker 7>to the parking lot or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there was a police officer, the officer that she

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<v Speaker 1>told me once that scared her a lot. She said

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<v Speaker 1>that he would stop her for random reasons. He was

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<v Speaker 1>married and he would he would try to get her

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<v Speaker 1>to go out with him, and that she had told

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<v Speaker 1>me before that that scared her.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a piece of information that obviously needed to

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<v Speaker 3>be explored more closely. There was also a report Dana

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<v Speaker 3>had claimed to be pregnant near the time she went missing.

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<v Speaker 3>Could these two pieces of information be connected? I was

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<v Speaker 3>intrigued when Christy told me that Dana had a date

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<v Speaker 3>that night, mainly because the timing of her heading out

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<v Speaker 3>to the store near three pm and then driving straight

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<v Speaker 3>back to her parents' house to give her dad the

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<v Speaker 3>medicine and grab her laundry all fit into that timeline.

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<v Speaker 3>But Dana never made it back by nine point fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>pm on the night of Dana's disappearance, her brother, Larry Stidham,

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<v Speaker 3>senses something is off, and so he calls the Benton

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<v Speaker 3>County Sheriff's office to say he and his family.

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<v Speaker 5>Are concerned about her.

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<v Speaker 3>She hadn't returned after going out to the store on

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<v Speaker 3>an errand it's been almost ten hours. This is not

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<v Speaker 3>something Dana would have done normally. I had wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>interview Larry, of course, but he had passed away at

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<v Speaker 3>the age of forty seven in twenty fifteen. Larry gives

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<v Speaker 3>a description of Dana's car so the Bella Vista Police

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<v Speaker 3>and Benton County Sheriff's Office can begin searching for it.

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<v Speaker 3>He says she's driving a gray Plymouth Horizon hatchback. The

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<v Speaker 3>Sheriff's department puts out a bolo be on the lookout,

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<v Speaker 3>and officers on the road conducting normal nightly patrols are

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<v Speaker 3>now actively searching for a gray Plymouth Horizon.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think it was actually Larry that called and

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<v Speaker 8>spoke to Danny Varner at the time, who was a sergeant,

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<v Speaker 8>filed the missing person's report, gives a vehicle description. Less

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<v Speaker 8>than an hour later, I think nine forty something is

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<v Speaker 8>when the bolos put.

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<v Speaker 3>Out that gray Plymouth Larry described.

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<v Speaker 5>There was an issue.

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<v Speaker 8>Larry gave the wrong description of the vehicle, again not intentional,

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<v Speaker 8>but it didn't help. He called back an hour hour

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<v Speaker 8>and a half later, ten something and corrected that Varner

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<v Speaker 8>called Bellavista. Let all the patrolmen know up there. Hey,

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<v Speaker 8>we had the wrong description of the vehicle. Here's the

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<v Speaker 8>correct description.

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<v Speaker 3>Dana was actually driving in gray nineteen eighty four Dodge Omni,

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<v Speaker 3>which was the sister vehicle to the Horizon, an easy

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 3>mistake to make. By this time, around ten thirty PM,

0:26:12.040 --> 0:26:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Larry and many family members and friends are themselves out

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<v Speaker 3>driving around, particularly north and south on Route seventy one,

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<v Speaker 3>the main thoroughfare running by the Phillips. The family knew

0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 3>something was wrong. Dana was independent and would go off

0:26:29.520 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 3>on her own from time to time, but she would

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 3>not blow her father off if he needed medicine or

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<v Speaker 3>leave her laundry at her parents, especially if she had

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<v Speaker 3>a date. At the very least, she would stop at

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<v Speaker 3>a payphone to call someone and let them know where

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<v Speaker 3>she was.

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<v Speaker 8>They're making phone calls talking to friends, Hey have you

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 8>seen Dana. Nobody's seen her or her car. Larry specifically

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<v Speaker 8>says that, you know, we drove a seventy one to

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 8>the state line. We drove back. We did not see

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 8>her car.

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<v Speaker 3>I went back to something Christy told me that date

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Dana had scheduled. Was she running late and decided to

0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 3>stop at her apartment change and head out on her

0:27:14.600 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 3>date without telling anyone. If she was spotted one point

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:23.200
<v Speaker 3>three miles south of Phillips on Route seventy one near

0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 3>the Bella Vista Museum with the possible flat tire between

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 3>what would have been approximately three twenty five and five pm,

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:33.800
<v Speaker 3>she would have been heading in the direction of the

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.639
<v Speaker 3>apartment she shared with Larry and her girlfriends. The flat

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 3>tire could have set her back. Moreover, who was Dana

0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:46.679
<v Speaker 3>going out with that night? Had anyone tried tracking the

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 3>guy down to interview him. Turns out it was an

0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.639
<v Speaker 3>older dude whose family owned a farm in Hahihwasse.

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 2>He still lives there.

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Parents are gone, but he's taken over the farm and

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:01.080
<v Speaker 1>he's a little bit older than this and was just

0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the one time daything. They'd never been out before.

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Dana's family calls the guy and he claims she never

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 3>showed up. He's also got an alibi. He's been home

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 3>all night with his family waiting.

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 7>On her, and so they file the mists in personal report.

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 7>And you all are driving around right, yes? Are you

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 7>driving up and down seventy one?

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 4>Huh.

0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 2>We drove everywhere we could think of.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>My first thought was did she have an accident, Did

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:29.679
<v Speaker 1>she go off of the side of the road in

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>a ravine or something? And nobody can see her car.

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>So we take the normal rask that she would have

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>taken to go to the store looking for her car

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>or anything that we might find, and we don't.

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 2>We can't find anything.

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 7>And you don't see her car.

0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 2>Right, no, nowhere.

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 3>So Dana's family is out searching for her, and they

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 3>drive north and south on Route seventy one, which Dana

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 3>would have had to take in either direction, but don't

0:28:57.960 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 3>see her car anywhere.

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 8>Family didn't see it. You know, you got a state

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:05.280
<v Speaker 8>trooper people looking for it, just not there. And we

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.959
<v Speaker 8>know that she was supposed to meet an individual and

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 8>she never showed. So all this is adding up that

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 8>something's not right, like she didn't just go somewhere. Something's

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:19.960
<v Speaker 8>not right. She's missing, vehicles missing, nobody's heard.

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 3>From her as friends, family, and law enforcement are out

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 3>looking for her. The first major break comes in the

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 3>form of a phone call. Someone had called a general

0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 3>store in Haiwassee, a small local grocery that Dana had

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 3>once worked at.

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:37.840
<v Speaker 5>It was four.

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Pm, about forty five minutes after she left the Phillips

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.680
<v Speaker 3>parking lot nine miles away. The caller is a young

0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 3>woman and she says this quote, tell him I really

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 3>want to go home, and that's it. But then a

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 3>second call to that same small general store.

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 8>Around eleven o'clock that night. If you remember, I told

0:30:04.160 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 8>you that somebody had called the store. The store around

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 8>four something. Somebody calls at eleven and says that Dana's dead,

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 8>and Mike knows what happened to her.

0:30:30.360 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 3>At the time that second call was made to the

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 3>general store in Highwasse, Dana's brother, Larry Stidham, was out

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 3>driving around, anxious and desperate to find any sign of

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:46.240
<v Speaker 3>his younger sister. Two miles or so up the road

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 3>from the Phillips grocery in Bella Vista, Larry turned off

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Route seventy one and on to Wellington Road and began

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 3>driving slowly searching.

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I believe Larry was driving around and he went up

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the road in found some of her clothes that had

0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.800
<v Speaker 1>been in her car. So then he called me because

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>he couldn't be sure that they were her. So he

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>called me, and I went to my husband and I

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 1>went up there and looked and verified that they were

0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>clothes of hers.

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 8>That point in time, it's gone from Okay, we don't

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.440
<v Speaker 8>think something is quite right too. There's some worry going

0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:25.640
<v Speaker 8>on now because now we've we've found some of her clothing,

0:31:26.200 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 8>clothing she was wearing, clothing that she had in the car.

0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 8>So they find the clothing, they pick it up, which

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 8>is not ideal, but at that time, nobody knows about DNA. Man,

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 8>it just doesn't cross anybody's mind. Again, it's just a

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 8>product of the time that they were in picks it up, realized, Hey,

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 8>this is Dana's clothing. You know, we got to report this.

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 8>They reported, the sheriff's office goes out there, collects the clothing,

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:56.680
<v Speaker 8>and then just nothing. Man. You know, Dana hasn't been

0:31:56.720 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 8>heard from, she hasn't shown up, nobody's seen. Everybody's panicking,

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:05.400
<v Speaker 8>everybody's being interviewed. Hey, when's the last time you saw her?

0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.680
<v Speaker 8>You know, who was she with? All that type of

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 8>stuff was going on. So now it's like, okay, we

0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 8>think we're pretty sure foul play.

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.160
<v Speaker 3>That older employee from Phillips that Dana had once mentioned

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 3>was perpetually inappropriate, a guy several folks I spoke to

0:32:22.560 --> 0:32:27.920
<v Speaker 3>referred to as a perverb. Well lo and behold. He

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 3>lived in a small house just off Wellington Road, near

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 3>where Dana's clothing was found. Here's someone who worked with

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.840
<v Speaker 3>the guy, a woman who doesn't want to be identified.

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 9>He was weird, just creepy. It was a tall, older man.

0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 9>Heah six three six four, kind of gaunt, and he

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 9>was like in his fifties. I think back then, and

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 9>I was in my early twenties. But oh, everyone in

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 9>our department talked about how it didn't like him, gave

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:04.600
<v Speaker 9>them the creeps.

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 3>Did he say things to the women or did he

0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 3>do things?

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 5>Or was he just like a creepy dude.

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 9>It was is a creepy dude. But I do know

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:15.160
<v Speaker 9>that some of the girls felt he was kind of handsy,

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.680
<v Speaker 9>got in your space, just inappropriate behavior.

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 3>The Benton County Sheriff's Office had interviewed several people at

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 3>the Phillips that evening, including a young man who worked

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 3>there and had once dated Dana, a relationship that did

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 3>not end on good terms. While police are talking to him,

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 3>this older man, the pervert, his name comes up during the.

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:45.520
<v Speaker 8>Interview, so you know, he talked about another individual that

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 8>worked there got with the last name of him, the.

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 5>Dirty old Man.

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. From reports from people that were interviewed, Yeah, there

0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:57.920
<v Speaker 8>was an issue with grassing the females that worked there.

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 8>There was also an individual that supposedly called him out

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 8>in his truck masturbating reading a dirty magazine. But it's

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:09.880
<v Speaker 8>real interesting because he lived at that time less than

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:11.239
<v Speaker 8>a half mile off of Wellington.

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 3>With a growing list of suspects. Within that first night,

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 3>Bella Vista Police and the Benton County Sheriff's Office are

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:24.560
<v Speaker 3>specifically looking for Dana's car. The thought is find the car,

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 3>find Dana, or at least begin to figure out what

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:33.719
<v Speaker 3>might be going on. Law enforcement, family, and townspeople are

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:37.440
<v Speaker 3>driving north and south on Route seventy one, snaking in

0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:40.720
<v Speaker 3>and out of side roads, but nobody sees a car

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:46.719
<v Speaker 3>even remotely resembling Dana's. The call that came into the

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Highwassi General Store at four PM and the one later

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:56.000
<v Speaker 3>on that night felt particularly important. There was something striking

0:34:56.080 --> 0:35:00.919
<v Speaker 3>about those calls. Remember this is nineteen eighty nine. There's

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 3>no instant reporting of anything. The only people who know

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.839
<v Speaker 3>Dana is missing are those involved in searching for her.

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 3>So whoever makes that call knows she's missing.

0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 8>I hate to assume anything because I've been doing this

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 8>job for too long, but it's a red flag. Like

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 8>it's screams whoever made that phone call actually had some

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 8>type of knowledge about something going on, And then you

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 8>can combine it with the supposed phone call. It makes

0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 8>your skin crawl.

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 5>And then what happens the next day.

0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 8>So the next morning, there's a lady named Karen Myers.

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 8>She was a sergeant there with Bella Vista, lived just

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 8>across the state line. She was on her way to

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 8>work that next morning around six six point thirty in

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 8>the morning, and she sees this vehicle on the side

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.800
<v Speaker 8>of the road there at Wellington in the southbound lane

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 8>facing south, and there was another vehicle that was parked

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 8>behind it. What kind of vehicle so initially it was

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:07.040
<v Speaker 8>possibly a small truck or a larger car. Later it

0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 8>changed to again small truck or possibly a station wagon.

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:16.240
<v Speaker 8>She doesn't know at that point in time that anything's wrong.

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 8>She proceeds on to work, and in fact, I think

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 8>she made some type of comment of the fishing must

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 8>be good in that area. So she proceeds on to work.

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 8>And it's from what I understand is like, those vehicles

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 8>are there, but there's really nobody outside the vehicles that

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:36.760
<v Speaker 8>she notices. She just notices the vehicles, so she proceeds

0:36:36.800 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 8>on to work. Later on she starts thinking, she goes

0:36:40.880 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 8>back and runs the tag the license plate. At that

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 8>point in time, we know for sure that it's Dana's vehicle,

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 8>and then all hell kind of breaks loose from there.

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:56.399
<v Speaker 8>She contacts Sheriff's office Sedoriac Barner. They go up there

0:36:56.400 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 8>and they process the vehicle.

0:36:58.560 --> 0:37:01.640
<v Speaker 3>Danny Varner, who went to school with Dana's parents, and

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Mike Zadoriac are the two Sheriff's office detectives now taking

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 3>control of the investigation. What they find when they look

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 3>at Dana's car begins to tell them that this case

0:37:14.920 --> 0:37:18.399
<v Speaker 3>might not have the outcome everyone is hoping for.

0:37:19.760 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 8>Keyser in the ignition, vehicle is unlocked, driverside window is

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:32.399
<v Speaker 8>halfway down, rear tire is low but not completely flat.

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Drivable, and what I find to be very important is

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 3>the driver's seat was adjusted pushed back for a much

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 3>taller person, so Dana wasn't the last person to.

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:45.760
<v Speaker 5>Drive the vehicle.

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 3>The cars parked on Route seventy one, heading south toward

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 3>the Phillips just north of this area, and the opposite

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 3>direction is the Missouri border. If you drove down Wellington

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 3>Road toward Route seventy one, this area where Dana's car

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 3>is found would be directly across the north side of

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 3>seventy one a median, then the south side of seventy one.

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 5>What significant is.

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:18.320
<v Speaker 3>That scores of people, police and Dana's family members traveled

0:38:18.320 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 3>by this area all throughout the previous night and early

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:26.879
<v Speaker 3>morning and no one reported seeing any vehicle. Now it's

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 3>there with a low tire.

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 5>Like somebody let the air out of the tire.

0:38:32.880 --> 0:38:35.799
<v Speaker 8>Maybe we know from the family that the tire did

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 8>have a slow leak that was later confirmed. So there's

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 8>the receipt from Phillips that's in the car with the

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 8>timestamp on it from the day prior. But the groceries,

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:55.359
<v Speaker 8>the alkacelser, the sugar, the laundry detergent is not in

0:38:55.360 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 8>the car. Again, there's a lot of different theories about

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.520
<v Speaker 8>why was that not in the car? Did she go

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 8>somewhere take that out then something happened. Did she stop

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 8>for somebody they give her a ride, she'd take them

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 8>with her. Again, like I said at the beginning, These

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 8>are some of the unknown things that we just don't know.

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 8>But all in all, the vehicle it doesn't appear that

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:25.960
<v Speaker 8>any kind of struggle took place. It's disheveled, but we

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:29.239
<v Speaker 8>know from talking to some of her friends that, you know,

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 8>if she had a drink she finished the dream, you know,

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 8>she'd throw it on the floorboarder, you know, just normal.

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 5>Any bottles or cans or anything found in the car.

0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 8>There was a chip bag, a Muncho's hip bag that

0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 8>we took again, could have been hers, could have been

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 8>somebody else. We sent fingerprints down and no fingerprints have

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:53.319
<v Speaker 8>ever matched that chip bag. But the groceries itself, they

0:39:53.320 --> 0:39:56.440
<v Speaker 8>were not in the vehicle. Her person stuff was not

0:39:56.520 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 8>in the vehicle. But again the keys were in the

0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 8>vehicle and it was unlocked, which was, according to the family,

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.440
<v Speaker 8>not calmon practice something that she would have done. You know,

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 8>it's unusual.

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 5>And how is the family responding to this finding.

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 8>Well, from the time that she went missing that previous night,

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:18.520
<v Speaker 8>they're distraught, you know, they know, you know, and I

0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:20.839
<v Speaker 8>don't want to speak for them, but you read through

0:40:20.880 --> 0:40:24.200
<v Speaker 8>the reports and stuff, you know that they know that

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 8>it's not good. The situation is not good one, because

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.640
<v Speaker 8>she would have come back on her own that day,

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 8>and she didn't.

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>And then we hear that they found her car at

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Bella Vista, and that's when it really hit me that

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:42.280
<v Speaker 1>something was not right, because she would never just abandon

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:44.439
<v Speaker 1>her car on the side of the road. She lived

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 1>for that car, so she wouldn't just leave it. And

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 1>if something would have happened, she would have called one

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>of us, because we would always we would have helped

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 1>her in any way. We would have came to god

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<v Speaker 1>her no matter what time of night it was. But

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<v Speaker 1>we hadn't heard from her.

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<v Speaker 7>And you you all had driven by that era where

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<v Speaker 7>the car was found and you didn't see the car,

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<v Speaker 7>and then all of a sudden it shows up. Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>So what are you being told by law enforce?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, all that we were told was that they had

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<v Speaker 1>driven that highway throughout the night and they hadn't seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at six o'clock that morning or something, an

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<v Speaker 1>officer drove by, and once she got to work and

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<v Speaker 1>heard about Dana missing, she remembered seeing the car on

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<v Speaker 1>her way into work, and that's when they went back

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<v Speaker 1>and found her car there.

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<v Speaker 7>And so what happens next.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that they went the Lawrence and Larry went

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<v Speaker 1>to where the car was while Mike Sedorac and Danny

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<v Speaker 1>Varner were out there doing you know, forensics on the

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<v Speaker 1>car whatever they did, and they just kind of stood

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<v Speaker 1>by the sidelines and watched what was going on. Then

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<v Speaker 1>they towed the car into the to the police department

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<v Speaker 1>or to the impound.

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<v Speaker 3>Still, that phone call to the general store near eleven

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<v Speaker 3>PM seems so important. Dana's dead and Mike knows.

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<v Speaker 5>What happened to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Who is Mike? Did Dana ever date or even know

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<v Speaker 3>anyone named Mike?

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<v Speaker 5>You guys have no idea who Mike is.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, initially we didn't, but later on we did. There

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<v Speaker 8>was a Mike that was associated with that store, whose

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<v Speaker 8>parents owned that store. So another thing that complicates the

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<v Speaker 8>case is you've got three or four different possible scenarios

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<v Speaker 8>and then you've got all of these people that supposedly

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<v Speaker 8>swear that they saw that day, you know, south of Center,

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<v Speaker 8>a van, a truck, No, it's a station wagon.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe Mike had access to a truck.

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<v Speaker 8>Had access to his dad's truck.

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<v Speaker 3>There was one more important piece of information. The Sheriff's

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<v Speaker 3>office obtained that following morning. Mike, they now knew, was

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<v Speaker 3>a classmate of Danis and had reportedly been infatuated with her,

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<v Speaker 3>and she routinely rejected his advances, and the Sheriff's office

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<v Speaker 3>learned that Mike had been out all night long. He

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<v Speaker 3>was seen in his father's truck driving around Bella Vista

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<v Speaker 3>on Route seventy one as late as three am, and

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<v Speaker 3>as alibi that he was with a girlfriend all night

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<v Speaker 3>in another town.

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<v Speaker 5>The Benton County.

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<v Speaker 3>Sheriff's Office spoke to her and she says she never saw.

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<v Speaker 5>Him coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>Next on paper ghosts the ozarks.

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<v Speaker 5>You can actually put him in a store.

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<v Speaker 4>In the day of Fdaana's disappearance, so you can put

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<v Speaker 4>him with Dana right before she disappeared.

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<v Speaker 8>Wasn't there very long? I supposed to meet the people.

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<v Speaker 8>So I stopped there in bilis Quahan and then walked

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<v Speaker 8>around little bed and stood, and as if I was

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<v Speaker 8>walking out, I saw in the dregtory dead and saw

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<v Speaker 8>a skull and some rib bones.

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<v Speaker 1>Who there there?

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<v Speaker 8>Are you reading?

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<v Speaker 7>Boy?

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<v Speaker 6>What do you want?

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<v Speaker 1>Why?

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<v Speaker 8>Why are you calling me if you don't even know

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<v Speaker 8>who I am?

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks a lot?

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<v Speaker 6>Do you know who I am.

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<v Speaker 8>You don't know who I am, then, why are you

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<v Speaker 8>calling me?

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<v Speaker 7>Paper Ghosts?

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<v Speaker 3>Season four is written and executive produced by Me and

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<v Speaker 3>William Phelps. Script consulting by Rose Bachi, sound designed by

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Russell, executive production by Catherine Law, and audio editing

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<v Speaker 3>and mixing by Brandon Dicker. Series theme number four four

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<v Speaker 3>to two is written and performed by Thomas Phelps and

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<v Speaker 3>Thomas Mooney