1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 8 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain Drops of today's episode of 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Reality with the King, we are finishing up the Valley. 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: What a great season it has been. 11 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: Part three reunion just air and I'm back to my 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: assistant Lizzie to give it all a recap. 13 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 3: Hey, Lizzy, Hi, I'm excited to be here again. Thank 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: you for having me. 15 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Thanks for saying yes to this mess. We need to 16 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: just get right into it. So the reunion picked up 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: where leaftof last week, which is the cast talking about 18 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: Danny and his drinking. 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: And I do want to stick with Danny. 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: For a while as we talk about the other accusations 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: flying in his direction. But first and first they are saying, 22 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, Danny's drinking, is it a problem, And it 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: seems to me that which I thought was funny. Who 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: was it that said that this whole cast has a 25 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: drinking problem? Jason, Yeah, And I'm kind of like not 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: to like add a label onto these people, but I 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: feel like they're young, they're fun, they live in California, 28 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: the unreality show. I just think they'd like to drink. 29 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: And I think there's certain people who can't hold their liquor, 30 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: and I just think Danny is one of those people. 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: But what do you think about that whole dialogue about it? 32 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 3: Well, that's it. That's exactly what it is. And also 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: you said, I do want to spend some time on Danny. 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 3: Well that's really pretty much all what this was about 35 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 3: Danny and Janet this part three. So there's no way 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 3: that we can't spend time on Danny. I think that 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: that is such a tough road to walk with accusations. 38 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: People have drinking problems, and I think that most of us, 39 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 3: most of us think O drinking problem means alcoholic, which 40 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: is exactly what Jesse brought up. Also, you know he said, 41 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: he said, well, my thought is that you need to 42 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: function to drink. You and I said this last week. 43 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: We think that he doesn't handle his drinking well. He 44 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: doesn't handle his alcohol well Danny, and he's a messy drunk. 45 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: It is what it is. I think that they harped 46 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: on this a lot. I do not disagree that he 47 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: does some uncomfortable things he's drinking, But to make a 48 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: show that is so centered around one of them owns 49 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: a bar, going out and partying, I mean, did you 50 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: watch vander Pump Rules. That's where people came from. No 51 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 3: one ever brought that up then when it I mean, 52 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: it was just madness, right, I mean the alcohol consumption 53 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 3: on that show. And I think that I think that 54 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 3: they are really nitpicking on one thing, and they're really 55 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: going hard off of Danny. Hey, if you want to 56 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: feel that way about Danny, go for it. You know 57 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: he's done things that makes you think he's inappropriate and 58 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: makes you think he's a little creepy. But also look 59 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: to your right and please go hard in on Jack's 60 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: don't sit there and say, well he's trying. Please give 61 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: him the exact same energy yeah you give Danny in 62 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: every single episode. 63 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I agree with you. I 64 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: Like I said before, I think Danny's a fumboy. I 65 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: think Danny likes a drink. I think they all like 66 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: to drink. I think some of them can handle the well. 67 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: I think Danny needs to possibly just watch how much 68 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: he intakes. 69 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: And for me. 70 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean, we all right, but that's the thing, exactly, 71 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: exactly exactly Listen. It's one thing listen not to desynthesize 72 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. But if the conversation was when Danny drinks, 73 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: he gets behind the word of a car. Sure, and 74 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: and we're concerned about him putting not only his life 75 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 1: but the lives of other people in jeopardy. 76 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a cost for concern. 77 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: I think you're right In terms of this entire show, 78 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: which is a spin off of that The Pump Rules, 79 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: It's center around a bar and and and and Jack's 80 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,799 Speaker 1: owning the bar and these people working there and and 81 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: and frequenting there. 82 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: It's kind of like Cheers. 83 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: Now, Lizzie, you're much younger than me, so I don't 84 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: know if you know about the TV show called Cheers 85 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: where every time Norm walked in, it was like, hey Norm, 86 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: so listen, maybe that Danny, Hey Danny, you know he's 87 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: walking to a bar. 88 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 4: The bar tend to knows him the janitor knows him, 89 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: the bus boy knows him. Maybe that's his thing, but 90 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, based on what I'm seeing. I just 91 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 4: don't think this brother is an alcoholic. I just I 92 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 4: just don't you. 93 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 3: And if he was, it wouldn't be your place to 94 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: say that anyways. 95 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: Oh, exactly, that's true. That that is true. That is true. Yes, 96 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: clock it. 97 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 3: You know, I do have I do have two things 98 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: to say about that, though. You and I've had conversations 99 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: just in our personal downloads about all these shows, and 100 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 3: it kind of brings you back to the Shannon Badoor situation. 101 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: She was drinking, she did get behind a wheel, and 102 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: she she apologized, but they went on her for seasons 103 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 3: about it, and at some point it's like, all right, 104 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: you made a mistake. Enough is enough. I'm not same 105 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: with you, not downplaying what happened. She got hurt herself, 106 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: she could have really hurt someone else. And the same 107 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 3: thing with Danny. You know, his actions really hurt someone 108 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 3: as well. And but but at once, at some point, 109 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 3: when do you stop. And I really don't think that 110 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: Janet stops, because you see how rouled up that Nia gets. 111 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: Nia doesn't do doesn't give much emotion or drama in 112 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: the show. And I think that the way that she 113 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: defends Danny and how hard she goes and how it 114 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: just irks her to know, and we saw her walk 115 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 3: out of a scene that's not the page in Queen 116 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 3: that I feel like I saw last sear you know, 117 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 3: And I think that I think Janna knows that it 118 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: gets her hYP. 119 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: Oh for sure, for sure, for sure. I mean, listen, 120 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: it is the other reason why. And I want to 121 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: be very sensitive to this too, because sexual assault is 122 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: a real thing and it happens every day unfortunately. So 123 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: when it came to speaking of Janet, Janet accused Danny 124 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: of touching women approperly, touching their butts. 125 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: She brought in the situation with Jasmin. 126 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: She used the word sexual assault, and I appreciated Andy 127 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: saying like, because. 128 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: Again, what is the definition of it. 129 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: Then you have Jason who's a lawyer, although they clowned 130 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: him and said, honey, you. 131 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: Are they sure did, honey, what is it? You are 132 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: like a Lindsey the wage workers. 133 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: So look, if the cameraman drops a camera on his 134 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 3: so give him a call. 135 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: If you haven't slip and fall at your job, honey, 136 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 2: definitely call him. 137 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: You know the White Rubbers sold shoes in their home. 138 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: Oh. 139 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I don't need no problems with Jason Child. 140 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: So Jason is like, based on the definition of Janet 141 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: saying he has sexually assaulted. 142 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: Jasmine touching, But. 143 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: Jason's like, that's considered battery, because I think when we 144 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: all hear sexual assault, it's sort of like, again, this 145 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: is this was this is what I thought right hearing it, 146 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: where you're sort of like forcing yourself upon somebody physically, 147 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: You're you're forcibly holding someone against their will. That's what 148 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: I thought, honestly. So to know that it was Danny 149 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: just in appropectly touching people again Jasmine was there, I 150 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: felt it was a very dangerous claim that could have 151 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: and listen, it just wrapped, could have had some very 152 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: severe damn images to Dani's reputation. 153 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 2: Because yes, on one hand, you should not touch anyone 154 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: without their consent. We do. 155 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: We know that. Don't touch my butt, I won't touch 156 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 1: your wars, right, But is that considered sexual assault? And 157 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: I think that's where things turn gray in this reunion. 158 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: And dare I say a little fifty shades of gray, 159 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: little darkness that I just I just didn't you know, 160 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: I was uncomfortable. 161 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel as a woman too, I feel really 162 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: conflicted about that statement because if you do want to 163 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 3: break it down, I think that it is. It's the definition. 164 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: And I think Andy handled it really well, because again, 165 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 3: I don't think that anyone ever, Danny and me included, 166 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: tried to take the pain and the hurt and the 167 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: wrongness away from Jasmine. I do think that it got 168 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 3: out of hand with who was fighting the back all 169 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 3: for her. She admitted that too. She was like, I 170 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: didn't I asked you, guys, my fiance asked you to 171 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: stop talking about it. And I think that I yeah, 172 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: I just felt I felt really uncomfortable because if if 173 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: you want to get down to the technicalities, yeah, he 174 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: did something without her consent, for sure, Yes, yeah, And 175 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 3: and Andy did a really good job of saying, like, Okay, 176 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: if you were to bring this to court, what would 177 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 3: they call it? Like you said, and I just don't 178 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 3: think that we talked about it last week. The apology 179 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 3: and the expectations was wrong. You know, he apologized. He 180 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: really should have left it in her hands instead of saying, oh, 181 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 3: it's all fine, because I apologized. But I still think 182 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: that it was not Janet's place to continue on, especially 183 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: if at one point during filming that we saw and 184 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: even on the reunion Jenna and Jasmine we're not in 185 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: one hundred percent bff place, right, So she really just 186 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: used it against Danny. He did it, So there's yeah, 187 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 3: I mean, what would you have done? 188 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 2: What would you. 189 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: Have have listened and given advice to? Like I think 190 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 3: I just would have had to say, yes, yes, they 191 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: did it, and just what sit there quietly? I mean, 192 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: Nia is is hot about this issue. 193 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: This is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. 194 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show. 195 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's the reason why I agree with you, 196 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: Lizzy when you talk about the fact that it did 197 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: appear that Janet wanted to get a rise out of 198 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Nia and Danny. And it's again based on what we're 199 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: learning now in the world in our industry in terms 200 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: of you know, the dudes and the don'ts that always 201 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: peer to be a little not always, but in some 202 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: cases appear. 203 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: To be gray. 204 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: You are right that look for sure, it's Jasmine's story 205 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: to tell, and if the person who was on the 206 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: receiving end of the inappropriate touching is saying to you 207 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: leave it alone. That doesn't give you the right of 208 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: the clearance to continue the story because at that point 209 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: it's sort of like, what is your attention there, Like 210 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: is your attention to be a supportive friend? If your 211 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: friend is saying to you, drop it, I don't wanna 212 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: talk about anymore, and you countinue talking about it. It 213 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: does question the intention that Jannon had from the get 214 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: go when it came to this. 215 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 2: And look, Jasmine called her Karen too, So I think 216 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: for me it just did I look good for Janet 217 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: at all? 218 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And in Jason defending her, of course he's not 219 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 3: not going to defend her. That's his wife. Yes, And 220 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: that's what we look for in a housewife reunion. You know, 221 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: whenever they sit behind them, we're like, that's right, that's right, 222 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: you know, hank the horn on them, Greg yea. 223 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: Rest. 224 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: But it just you know, everyone's like, were you watching 225 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 3: the same show as us? You know, you can have 226 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: someone's back, but not say, well, Janet was escape the 227 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 3: whole season. You know, you guys went after her. Just 228 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 3: just have her back if something comes at you. Don't 229 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: bring that up, because that did look kind of silly 230 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 3: and and Janet. She looked uncomfortable, kind of you know. 231 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 3: She she definitely was the one that teared up the most. 232 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 3: I think because I'm sure that that was a tough 233 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: reunion for her to go to. She looked very beautiful 234 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: to me. I'm reunion for her to go to just 235 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: be because the end of the season, I mean, she 236 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: had to leave Hawaii like no one liked her except 237 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: for Michelle, and you know, Michelle's on the end of 238 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: the couch. 239 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: Let's get into Michelle, because you know what they've tried 240 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: to sort of like compare things to was like, well, 241 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: you said that Michelle was a whore, and he's like, 242 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: I never said. 243 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: She was a or okay, I said that she on 244 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: her she slept with me forbuddy. 245 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 3: He heard that in the group text that Jesse wrote 246 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 3: that he was just doing his job and saying it 247 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 3: on camera. I thought that that was a low, a 248 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: very very low thing to pull out and be like, please, 249 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: I'm handing you this on a platter. Please say you 250 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: know that he called her a whore. I think that 251 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: that that didn't It's plenty of other things you can 252 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: be mad at about. He literally read a text message. 253 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: He's the one that let it out of the group chat. 254 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: That's all he was doing was repeat what her husband 255 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: on paper said. 256 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, let's get to Jack. 257 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: So, as we're watching Jack's final reunion as we now 258 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: know it to be based on him quitting the show 259 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: and walking away from it, Okay, I want to make 260 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: sure I say that on the record. Based on that, 261 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: we are now seeing that in this reunion there are 262 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: conversations again just about his behavior, whether or not he's 263 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: able to, you know, survive this life without. 264 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: Drinking. 265 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: And one thing that I thought was so interesting and 266 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: made me laugh because I'm like, okay, can I can 267 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: I laugh? Finally, was when they kept playing the flashbacks 268 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: of Jack saying it's my show, it's my show, it's 269 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: my show, and if you guys are mean to me. 270 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: You're getting fired. 271 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: And how Andy's like, show up hands if Jack's ever 272 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: said this was his show, and everybody raise their head. 273 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: That to me was so funny, but well I thought 274 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: was fascinating was the parallel that Andy mentioned where he's like, 275 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: you said that on a previous show that you were 276 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: fired from, and now you're saying it again and things 277 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: aren't looking too good for. 278 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: You it's like the kiss of death. 279 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,239 Speaker 1: But I, Lizzy, is what I tell all reality stars 280 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: the moment you say I'm the star or is my show? 281 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: To me, it's the kiss of death. 282 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 3: He he just really cannot catch a break with that, 283 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: and he if you if there was any question that 284 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 3: he wasn't a narcissist, the flashback and this conversation proved it. 285 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: I mean, he does take credit for takes credit for 286 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: so many things. He blasted all over social media, you know, 287 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: and he was a hot topic and star of Bander 288 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 3: Pump Rules for a while and then he was it 289 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: And the same thing. I'm glad that Brittany said said 290 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: you were gone for thirty days and no one missed you. 291 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: We are Dad, honey dag. 292 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: Because we've all said it the internet, everyone who said it. 293 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: But I also didn't believe him claiming that he didn't 294 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 3: watch the show. I don't believe that for two seconds. 295 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: For someone that has a burner account that goes in 296 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: types with his two thumbs, hear, that's how great he is. 297 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: He said something about like, how could you not love 298 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 3: this guy? 299 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: What kind of them shoves? 300 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: So you don't watch the show, but you're gonna go 301 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 3: defend all of your actions on the Internet with a 302 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 3: fake account. 303 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: Boy boy, I. 304 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: Thought that was so funny because I'm like, well, shit, Lizzy, 305 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: do I need to create a figure cowt go on 306 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: Spotify leave a five star review, which, by the way, 307 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: rain Drops leave a five star review of the podcast 308 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: out Let's get the Kick and a vice com You 309 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: have to be a narcissist to create a fake account, 310 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: okay and lead positive comments. And then he's like, I 311 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: haven't used it in a while. Lies, lies and more lies. 312 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: But so the day was Frank right, and and. 313 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: He kept calling him Frank Drummond, and he was like, no, 314 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 3: it's Frank. Do something it was from from a movie 315 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 3: or something goes. 316 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: From a movie? 317 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: Drummond, Yeah, Drummond, Drummond, what drummon? 318 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: Whatever it is. 319 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 3: How silly are you to think that one account could 320 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: could raise the public's view of you? Baby, You need 321 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 3: to go in there. You need to create a thousand 322 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 3: of them. Frank Drummond bought Drummond druman dram boom damam 323 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 3: create them all. The fact that. 324 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: He's got. 325 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: Please get a team. Yeah. 326 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: What was so interesting too, is this, Obviously we know 327 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: that when. 328 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: It came to Jack's We're never going to deny that 329 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: he was good television at one point. 330 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: I think the problem, though, is he drank the kool aid. 331 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: And that's what happens when it comes to these reality 332 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: stars who are look force multipliers, polarizing to watch. You're 333 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: definitely somebody we're intrigued with. But the notion that this 334 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: show is yours and you can fire people if they're 335 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: not nice to you. But the flashback that gagged me 336 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: because I do remember this, the fact that this motherfucker 337 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: told Lisa Vanda Pump to her face the show is 338 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: called vand Pump Rules, the setting of the show is 339 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: at her restaurants plural. 340 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: You're telling this woman this is my show. 341 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: And let's be clear, Lisa vand the Pump rightfully so 342 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: also has a healthy ego. 343 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure she was like, oh, it's happ You. 344 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: Have lost your damn mind to keep it to even 345 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: think that. 346 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: How quickly she got back in his face and his 347 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 3: reaction really was gold, you know, of like a quick 348 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,360 Speaker 3: like okay, okay, okay, okay, all back down type thing. 349 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 3: But I mean that was that was That was great 350 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: watching two of two people who think very highly of themselves. 351 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: M h talk about whose show it is that that 352 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 3: was great. I mean again, that's why we watch these shows. 353 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 3: Like you said, it's we're not we're not taking anything 354 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 3: from him that he is great television. I mean now 355 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 3: it's now it's just gotten out of hand and healthy 356 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: because his behavior is just so terrible as a human. 357 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, at one point it was great 358 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: and that's why we watched it. And he just never 359 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: really grew up. 360 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:14,719 Speaker 2: No, he never grew up. 361 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: And it's sad because this man, and I keep saying 362 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: this over and over, it's rare in reality television to 363 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: have a second chance. It's just it's it's it's rare. 364 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: And the fact that he was given one and this 365 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: is what he did with it is awful. And but listen, 366 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: it's the he has to lie the bit he made 367 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: and that's just that's just where things are with it, 368 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: similarly to sort of like where things seem to be 369 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to the relationship with the cast, because 370 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: you know, listen, I thought the seats was great. A 371 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: lot of people said it was dark. I think, look, 372 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: you can't control the reality of what people are going 373 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: through in their lives. But for me, do you think 374 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: with the remark of Jacks, is there anybody else that 375 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: needs to be removed to make this show better? 376 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 2: Better? 377 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 3: That is a strong word. I really really enjoy the 378 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: Valley I despite how dark it got, like you said, 379 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 3: I think I think it was wonderful. I was excited 380 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 3: every Tuesday to watch it. So a removal, honestly, you 381 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: and I mean you create them and run them. We've 382 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: worked behind the scenes of a lot of shows, and 383 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: it is tough to play that family tree of connections 384 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 3: when there is a breakup, you know. So I'm interested 385 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 3: in where it goes with Jesse and Michelle. I think 386 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: that because we were invested in the dysfunction and just 387 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: the not great relationship that they had the first season, 388 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: it was it was good to see them both on 389 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 3: season two. I don't know where it goes for removal. 390 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: I actually feel like we learned a lot more about 391 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: Zach this season. I liked it. I appreciated it, and 392 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 3: I think that they all are really hard workers. They 393 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 3: want we talked about this last week. Oh yeah, we 394 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 3: like to spill the tea. They like to out each other. 395 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 3: I would not be shocked. This is just my opinion. 396 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 3: I know nothing. I would not be shocked if Danny 397 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 3: and Nia left, but only if there's terrible backlash after 398 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 3: this today, you know, after the final reunion Neghbors. So 399 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: I think she enjoys it and likes it. But I 400 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: think now we understand that there are stakes. There are 401 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 3: You're we're gonna have to come to your house, We're 402 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 3: probably gonna get into your marriage. And like now, you 403 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 3: have four children. We know we don't really see the 404 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: kids at time. It's not a kid's show, but that's 405 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 3: where they are in their reality. And if he is 406 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: going on at nights, who is helping, you know, feed 407 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: these kids? Yeah, that's us. But I don't know. But 408 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: you know what I did do, Carlos, I did. I 409 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: took one for the team and I listened to Sheena 410 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: Chay's book, Uh Coma. 411 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: Live There, What's going on? 412 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: Girl? 413 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it. She she told a lot of 414 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 3: stories that I either had only heard part of or 415 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 3: some that I didn't know at all. And that was 416 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 3: great because I am a fan of vander Pump. Yes, 417 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 3: she did mention that her husband current husband brought cheated 418 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: on her while she was pregnant with their daughter. Summer Moon, 419 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 3: So this was not terribly long ago, and before everything 420 00:24:53,240 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: with scandall happened. She mentioned spoiler alert rain drops that 421 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 3: it happened, and she didn't know about it. When it happened, 422 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 3: she was pregnant. And then when all of this stuff 423 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: started coming out about Sandoval and Arianna that Brock did 424 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: sit her down and tell her that, hey, I just 425 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: want you to be aware of this in case anything 426 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 3: comes out. I've seen how hard all of this, you know, 427 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 3: infidelity has hit you with your best friend, that I 428 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: was unfaithful to you while you were pregnant. He told 429 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 3: her everything because he was there were rumors, I don't 430 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 3: know if you remember, there was talks that maybe he 431 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: had hooked up with Raquel now yeah, and they denied it. 432 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 3: But because there were accusations being thrown out about that, 433 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 3: he just went ahead and came to her and she 434 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 3: did not. And this was before filming of the most 435 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: recent season of vander Punk. So she kept this to 436 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 3: herself because, in her words, she didn't want to steal 437 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: any of Ariana's shine, shine being the wrong word because 438 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 3: she got cheated on, but she didn't want to act 439 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,479 Speaker 3: insincere and drop this, you know, negative information. So she is, 440 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: she has a small child, she is trying to navigate 441 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 3: filming the show. Her heart has now been broken. She's 442 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 3: trying to figure things out, and she just kept that 443 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 3: to herself. She released it in the book, which came 444 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: out last month. And I think that this opens up 445 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 3: a whole new story for her and Broke to tell 446 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 3: if they were to become full time cast members on 447 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: The Valley next season. Gives us a lot more to 448 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 3: talk about. 449 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm here for I actually, yeah, because listen, that's that's 450 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 2: that's juicy. 451 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: Yeah mm hmm. 452 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 1: And for me, listen, the beauty of a Valley is 453 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: I will always consider this show to spin off of 454 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: Bad the Pump Rules. So what words is the fact 455 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: that the majority of the cast comes from that world 456 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: and to be able to, you know, follow the story. 457 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: That is interesting. So Sheena and they're together. 458 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 3: They are the guy yep, yeah, they chose to stay together. 459 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 3: He made a really kind statement on Instagram and he 460 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: basically said, you know how much he loves her, how 461 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 3: sorry that he is. He was not angry or didn't 462 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: want her to not put this in her book because 463 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 3: this is her story to tell. And yeah, and he's 464 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 3: proud of her, and he'll work every day to you know, 465 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: keep the new trust going. And I think that that's 466 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 3: something that that they will have to work on every day. 467 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 3: And I think that it's also something that they might 468 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: want to work on in front of the cameras. 469 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: So I'm here for it. 470 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we'll see her. 471 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: We need a new splash of story. 472 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: I also agree with you, listen, I think everybody should 473 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: stay with some new people coming in. 474 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: I think may the best person win in this case. 475 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: I like a co ed show. 476 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it represents the world we 477 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: live in where it's not the world isn't so isolated 478 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: where it's like married women only hang out with their 479 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: girlfriends every day. I love the fact that the men 480 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: are there at their present. They get to speak up 481 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: for their wives or behalf of their wives, and on 482 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: behalf of their male friendship. Jacks is great television. The show, 483 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: to me, can't survive without him. I am curious to 484 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: see where Jesse and Michell are going to take things. 485 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: I think Jesse is somebody next season that's gonna surprise 486 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: us and sort of be like the leading male, because 487 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,959 Speaker 1: I think he learned from his buildin era that Okay, 488 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: I did it, you know, iconic whatever. 489 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: But I see him being more. 490 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: Of a leader when to come to the guys and 491 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: getting them together and being more like a big grow 492 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: But also think Jessic k Help was sub being mess sive, 493 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: which I love, and I think he'll still sprinkle some mess. 494 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: I think he's like Peter Thomas, you know, like yeah, yeah. 495 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: So that. 496 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: And I think that I saw him kind of ride 497 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: for Danny, you know, which which I thought was interesting. 498 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: He said, Danny doesn't have a drinking problem. He's and 499 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: then he's just he's playing he's playing the old jacks. 500 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 3: He knows who to bring together. You're right, he's gonna 501 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: take on the king be okay. And yeah, And also 502 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 3: there were a few other little, small, quick telling things 503 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: that I think people are trying to keep their spots. 504 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: Janet and Zach just couldn't not stand each other right, 505 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 3: and her husband Jason rode for her so hard against 506 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: everyone else. Did you notice that if the end of 507 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: the episode, he kind of jumped in. Zach was on 508 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: one side, Jane was on another, and he said, well, 509 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,239 Speaker 3: hold on, Janet, are you are you listening to what 510 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: he's saying it sounds like it's oh, no, he did 511 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 3: it too, did it to Jack's Jack's I'm sorry, I 512 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 3: spoke Jack and Zach. He said, it sounds like Jack 513 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: is trying to extend an olive branch, and it's like, gosh, 514 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: you hated him. 515 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: For your wife. 516 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: I'll see it. So they understand the assignment. Towards the 517 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: end of the night, they're tired, probably there for nine hours, 518 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 3: and there's got to be some sort of reconciliation, right, like, 519 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 3: how do we at least close the day which put 520 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 3: the stamp on the season. And I think that was interesting. 521 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 3: I agree with you about Jesse. I think that he 522 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: can absolutely film with Michelle. I think he's gonna like to, 523 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 3: you know, stir her up a little. 524 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: And then I like the fact that he met with 525 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: the boyfriend and yes. 526 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah. And Andy also I felt like it was 527 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: a bit of a statement. Uh Andy mentioned that Jesse's 528 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 3: girlfriend showed up at the end of a party that 529 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 3: they were filming an all cast and then he said, look, 530 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: you're on a TV show regardless if she wants her 531 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: privacy respected, I want to put a mic on her 532 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 3: and I want to see what's going on. And that 533 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: was a little bit of like, hey, dude, if you 534 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 3: would like to continue next season, you bring whoever you're 535 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 3: dating on. And I thought that that was I think 536 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: I thought that that was him subtly telling him what 537 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 3: needs to happen to move forward. 538 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: Can be shady a little bit. 539 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 540 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: If I was Jesse, I would say, did Jenna Alliance 541 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: have to do it? And then I should? 542 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 3: I think about that far more often than. 543 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: The tricky part. 544 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I want to say, you saw Smia's husband 545 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: one time in a twenty episode order. 546 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: That's why I'm telling you. It's tricky. It's tricky. It's tricky. 547 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: These people are watching I That's the thing. When Jenna Alliance. 548 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 1: Says she had a fucking fiance, not not just some 549 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: random you know, hit and quit it a fiance mm 550 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: hmm that we were not allowed to see. 551 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: Oh her entire cats was upset about that too. Yeah yeah, yeah, 552 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: well yeah, you let me know if they come back 553 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 3: and we see them again. Oh, I'm not well, I've 554 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 3: seen that. It's I haven't seen them on my TV. Fance. 555 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to see them on my TV. I'm 556 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 2: just sag liszy. 557 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean shit, I just don't care to see them 558 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: again on my Telementaron Screen Lovely ladies, amazing, accomplished women, 559 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: gorgeous and so now TV personalities of an ensemble. 560 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: No, thank you, just not and it's okay. 561 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: I've done shows where I'm like, all right, mister Mark, there't. 562 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: Won't talk about that show. 563 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 3: A revoote is tricky, a cast casting is tricky. I 564 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 3: don't think people realize how much goes into that. You 565 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: cannot just pluck someone, even if they were had ten 566 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: tons of drama coming with them. It doesn't work like that. 567 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 3: It's tough, and especially when you've got you know, people 568 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: who stand Tinto's down on the old housewise. 569 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 5: Hello, that's me, Hi, I'm your neighbor. It's they had 570 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 5: fun though, but. 571 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: Look, based on the episode I did watch last scene 572 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: that I don't think so, but I will. 573 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 3: Circle back and be positive. Who we do like is 574 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 3: the valley and there that way that was That was 575 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 3: the excellent season. I'm glad, Yeah, yeah, I'm glad that 576 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: we watched it. I loved when we got pops of 577 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,439 Speaker 3: La La or Shena. I love we got to see 578 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 3: Lalla's baby. I personally I called you. I thought that 579 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 3: that was a statement too. I thought that was very 580 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 3: interesting that the baby appeared on the show that she 581 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: wasn't even a cast member on. So who knows what's 582 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: in store? I mean, I would hope that they're filming 583 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: at least sometime soon so we can get it in 584 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. But I enjoyed it. I've enjoyed everyone 585 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 3: that we've met on the cast that has come on 586 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 3: Reality with King and they all. 587 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: Huge Jasmin and Jesse for stepping into reality, but the 588 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: key you guys were great guests. 589 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm happy for Kristen and and Nia for having 590 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 3: their their healthy babies, and I'm excited to see where 591 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 3: they go. In the meantime. I guess we'll follow Frank DuMond. 592 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 3: We can keep up with We can keep up with 593 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 3: Jacks that way. 594 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: Listen, is that so active? 595 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: I know he say he's for eBay or something, but 596 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: I need to know if it's active. 597 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,279 Speaker 2: I'm sure Jack to do that shit. It was like, 598 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: get out of here. 599 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 3: When they showed the unseen footage of them talking about 600 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 3: Brittany's Jenny Craig bag that he was trying to sell 601 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,959 Speaker 3: on eBay, I. 602 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 2: Was like, I love this show. 603 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: Though again great season, the Valley Cat and crew wonderful job. 604 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: I'm sad to see y'all go, but I'm happy to 605 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: know that you guys will be filming again and Lizzy 606 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: and I will be back to discuss this all again 607 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: next season. 608 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 2: So thank you Lizzy for taking time out to recap 609 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 2: with me. 610 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 3: Thank you, it was fun. 611 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, 612 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz. 613 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: And a partnership with the Lack Effect Network. 614 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at 615 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: the Carlos King Underscore