WEBVTT - Duel Vision 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:05.720 If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:09.240 was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.920 the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.800 crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich 0:00:15.840 --> 0:00:19.840 pill poppers in the penthouse, the clearing House of hot 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.599 takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:27.760 Ben Maller starts right now that it does. I hope 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:30.040 your stave staying healthy, and we are going to get 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:34.279 you through the dead zone if you will the weekend 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:37.680 time Here bonus editions of The Fifth Hour with Ben 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:42.400 Maller and David gascon As. We are back at it 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:45.440 again this weekend, and we're gonna do something a little 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:49.040 different now. Last week, on a previous episode of the show, 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:53.600 we welcomed in Lenny Distro, and I love talking to Lenny. 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.880 Lenny was great, a lot of profanity, a lot of 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.560 wild stories from his days with the Mets and the Phillies, 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.600 and it was wonderful time. I think the best part 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:04.760 about all that, Ben is you got the reviews of 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:08.000 either really good or really bad. There was no in 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:11.920 between for any of him and his performance. I'm still 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:13.840 amazed by the people that listen to the podcast like 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.800 I can't listen to profanity, and I my god, I'm like, okay, 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:22.160 all right, calm down. Every won't calm down. So today 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:26.080 it's all about me, Gascon, and I'm going into my 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.600 rolodecks of old radio friends. And this is a guy 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:31.560 that used to be a talk show host at kf 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.560 I in Los Angeles news talk station. Uh. He did 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.040 some radio in Philadelphia. He worked at Fox Sports Radio 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.080 very briefly. I did shows with him in my early 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:46.959 days in sports talk radio in l A. Did a 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:51.960 show with him and after him, Lee Klein is his name, 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:56.040 Lee was. It was a Clipper talk show host post 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.200 game back where they were terrible. Uh. He also did 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:02.360 some Dodger programming around the time that I was doing 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.920 some stuff with the Dodgers. And we've known each other forever. 0:02:06.040 --> 0:02:09.200 I've known him longer than just about anybody in the 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.880 radio business. He knows where all the bodies are buried 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:16.440 in my in my career and whatnot. And so it's 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:18.680 I think we'll just it's it's just gonna play some 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.600 grab bass, is what we're gonna do, right, Descon. That's 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.040 the plan with Lee, just me and him shooting the 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:24.960 shooting the ship. It feels like and all I need 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.639 is a cocktail, maybe some tacos, because you guys have 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:29.840 a long history together and a lot, a lot of 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.799 juvenile things, which is great to hear because this is 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.400 all the behind the scenes stuff that that people won't 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.000 ever get to hear because usually you're talking about the 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:41.440 games at hand, but this is the games before the game. Yeah. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.440 So we're gonna get into some of the crazy things 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.680 that happened in local radio when we first got going 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.760 the days at the l A Sports Arena back and 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.320 you know, covering the Clippers, being around the Clippers when 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:57.880 they were lousy forever, and some of the characters. We'll 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:03.200 have some stories about Benoit, Benjamin In, about Donald Sterling 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:07.080 and some things, uh the Cardinal Rule and radio that 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.639 was broken by my friend Lee, and we'll get into 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.960 some of that. Um So, I hope you enjoy it. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.639 It's a it's a good guy, Lee Klein, their longtime 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:19.760 radio personality in southern California and Philadelphia and some other places. 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.040 But we began, I guess we'll start with this Lee, 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:25.480 the news of the week. You used to do some 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.200 stuff with the Dodgers. They announced this week that they 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:34.040 have ended their TV uh blackout. They're gonna be on 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:38.800 satellite television of all weeks this week with no sports going. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:43.640 What do you think about that? Lee? So let me 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:49.800 get this right. That Spectrum, which is Charter company, they 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:55.160 decided to finally relent and give Dodger broadcast to the 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.680 rest of the country and also to Direct TV and 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:02.120 the baseball packages that they finally decided to let it 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.560 loose other than their own company. Only E D s 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.840 now that there's no baseball season, that was the time 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.600 to do it. Well exactly. Yeah, it's it's wonderful and 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.279 it it announced on April Fool's Day. They announced it 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:23.120 on April one, which is even better. It's even better. Uh, 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.039 But listen, I want to I got before we get 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.840 into what's going on today, I got we gotta get 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.960 into some of these old radio stories lead because, uh, 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:33.240 for those that don't know, and it used to work 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.000 at Fox Sports, right, how long were you at Fox 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.360 Sports Radio? It wasn't very long. He was briefly at 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.200 Fox Sports Radio, right. Well, you know, I was on 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.680 regular radio for about twelve fourteen years and Fox for 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.680 about six months. And for those that are listening that 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.200 do not know, Ben and I have been going to 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:54.760 games together and have known each other for now, it's incredible, 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:59.040 for over twenty five years. And so I know everything 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:01.400 he's done in sport and where he's gone. He knows 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.520 everything that I've done. So we're close. And so whatever 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.960 you're gonna hear, and this is unrehearsed, whatever you're gonna hear, 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:11.159 it's truly going to be bottom line truth, isn't it 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:13.800 that Well? Yeah, But but I guess we should start 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.000 at the beginning because I first started going to games. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.840 I was I was going to Saddleback College. I was 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:21.160 working at the college radio station, and I got credentials 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.560 to go to like Clipper games, you know, at the 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.360 l A Sports Arena, and you were there and you 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.880 were the first person that ratted me out because you 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.560 knew my scam. You knew that I was not really 0:05:32.600 --> 0:05:34.680 a real member of the media, and you called me 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.640 on it. And I remember that day at the sports arena. 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.160 We're like, hey, k s br, I know where that 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:45.080 I know at that station. Well that that's absolutely true, 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.640 But you have to admit I didn't tell anybody I 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.400 ratted you out to you. I didn't rat you out 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:55.000 to anybody with the Clippers or anybody in the media. Yeah. 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.080 And uh, and then you did Clipper talk. I remember 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.440 you did that for several years and the Clippers were 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:05.800 horrible most of that time, and you you were polishing 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:11.440 turds on a nightly basis of not terrible the Clippers were. Yes, 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.039 the job of doing that for six or seven years 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:17.599 when they were horrendous would be equal to what Dr 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.799 Fauci has to do speaking two minutes after the President 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:24.479 to walk a tight rope across the Grand Canyon. Yeah, 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:28.000 it was. It was wild. And the sports arena, to 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.760 give an idea for those that are young and don't remember, 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.240 the l A Memorial Sports are where the Clippers played 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.080 truly was the masoleneb We would be sitting there and 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.200 there would be more fans in the second half. They 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.880 would let the homeless people in that part of l 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.960 A come into the arena to warm up on a 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.159 cool night. It was wild. It was crazy back then. 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:54.039 They were and this is not an exaggeration for your listeners. Um, 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.800 and then you would agree, the biggest crowd other than 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.040 if they were playing Michael and the os or Larry 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.039 bird and and the Celtics or the Knicks. Because there's 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:08.160 so many New York fans here aside from those three teams, 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:12.480 you would have at most at most four thousand or 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.880 under for every single home game, year after year. I 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.679 remember they were playing an exhibition game against the Atlanta Hawks. 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.720 This is in the like the early nineties, and I 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.640 counted the crowd at the Sports Arena in the first 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.160 quarter of the game, and I counted about five people. 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.440 And I think I was high on that. I think 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:36.600 I might have counted uh several people multiple times, uh 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:39.360 to get to get to that five number. And uh 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.480 it was it was just insanity that they did that 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:46.440 for so long at that particular arena. But uh, I 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.480 gotta I gotta go back to some of the early 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.520 days when we were working together at A M eleven fifty, 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:55.320 the big sports station, and like my my favorite League 0:07:55.320 --> 0:08:01.200 Cline story, No, no, this is great. You broke the 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:07.240 cardinal rule of talk radio. Ohay, and people listen to him. 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:12.080 It's absolutely I admitted it's true. So we were both 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:14.520 doing shows on a Saturday, I think it was a 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.640 Saturday morning, and that we I was doing the Ben 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.760 and Dave Show. We hated it because we were doing 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:24.160 a nighttime show on Friday, and then we had to 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:26.520 do a remote every Saturday morning. We had to do 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:30.720 a remote somewhere and it was a disaster. And because 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.520 we were tired, we don't want to do it. You know, 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.960 we would go to some like some warehouse or some 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.160 you know, tire shop or whatever. But you were also 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.640 doing those remotes. You were also doing that kind of thing. 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.400 And uh, I recall the day that the phones went down, 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:50.679 the day the phones died, and the one the only 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.640 line into the building working was the hotline, which is 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.480 the inside number. It's it's, it's. You must protect the 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.559 inside number at all costs. You can't give out the 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:03.880 inside number. And I remember you saying, Lee, I am 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:08.440 not doing a show without taking phone calls. And you 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:12.720 then proceeded to give out the hotline number your entire 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.920 show because that was the only incoming call a line 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.800 that you could take. It was an amazing daily and 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.360 you broke the cardinal rule radio and you live to 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:27.400 tell talk about it another day. Um. You see the 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:31.120 one thing that you did in these remotes that you 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:34.680 did and those Saturday shows that go way back is 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.160 that you had a partner to talk to. I did 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.440 my show by myself, so I did not on a 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.040 Saturday morning, and you knew what it was to get 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.360 up on a Saturday because we had weekday jobs to 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.560 begin with work on a Saturday. I was not going 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.760 to do a monologue and talk with nobody for a 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:55.360 con for the entire two hours of that show. So yes, 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:58.280 I gave it out. But here's the good point. People 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:02.360 use that number. They called in. I had callers, and 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:05.240 at the very end of the show, I actually said 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.679 this on the air, the phone number that I've been 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:12.880 given out, never use it again. I think you said 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:15.480 it was like today only or something like that. Today 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.280 it whatever, it was like, I was trying to erase 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:23.800 inc not pencil. And then there's a couple of things 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:27.080 I remember from that period of my bloviating career with 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.720 you is hold it, hold it back off. Let me 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.319 tell the story about this. Okay, you and I were 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.800 sitting at the sports arena, and we always sit next 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.319 to each other, and as empty as we've had described 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:42.760 it was at all times. One night during a game, 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:46.600 so empty in the upper deck in the far corner, 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.400 there was a guy and a girl sitting on the 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.880 guy's lap. And Jim Hill, who is a very famous 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.840 uh news reporter for thirty five years on television here 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.720 and still is in Los Angeles, that knows both then 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.640 and I very very well. Yeah, he grabbed my binoculars 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.679 to take a look at this. Help people what was 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.840 going on during the game. Yeah, None of us, the 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.839 all of all the radio row or TV row or 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.000 whatever that part of the press box, none of us 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.920 were watching the game. We were all fascinated by the 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:22.520 people stooping in the upper deck at the sports arena. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.360 And uh yeah, and we only had one pair of binoculars. 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.880 Remember we were passing the binoculars around across the road. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.839 We were Everyone wanted to their binoculars and uh and 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:34.760 there was only one pair to go around. So we're 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:36.880 all fighting for the binoculars to see what was going 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:40.439 on in wild and and it was a girl sitting 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.160 on a guy's lap. And anybody with an imagination can 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:47.319 understand and think and whatever you're thinking, Yes, that was 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.640 what was happening. Yeah, and it was it was rather 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.400 bold too, because there was nobody in the arena like 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.559 they stood out. They went to the very top row 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.320 and there was no one around them. They were like 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.679 they were isolated the very I guess they figured nobody 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.680 would look king up there because everyone's looking at the court. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:07.160 But surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise. So say what they were 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.400 sitting in like next to the top row in the back, 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:15.120 and there wasn't a human being within any three sections 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:18.120 of them? Yeah, exactly, I mean, this is no one 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.719 at those games. It was. It was insane. Why don't 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.319 why don't you tell him the story when you went 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:26.360 to the World Series in Cleveland, you in uh, you 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.760 in bigsie and when you had to do a phone show, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:33.080 Oh yeah, we well we had gone, we had flown 0:12:33.080 --> 0:12:36.920 into Cleveland, and then we were supposed to broadcast from 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:42.480 the Indians Ballpark and there was some kind of calamity 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.960 that had taken place, some kind of snaffoo, and so 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:49.400 we this is this. You couldn't even do this today. 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:51.080 I guess you just have to do on your cell phone. 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:55.360 But we found a bank of pay phones out in 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:58.880 suburban Ohio, not even in Cleveland, was outside of Cleveland, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:02.400 and we re seeded. We we I was on one 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.480 pay phone and uh and he was on the other 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.840 pay phone and we did the show from a bank 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:11.280 of pay phones in in beautiful suburban Ohio. They're outside 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:15.520 of Cleveland, and direct me if I'm wrong. It was 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.920 during that World Series that you were there that it 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:21.920 was actually at times during the day snowing. Yeah. I 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.040 got very sick after that because I was the ninety 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.040 seven World Series. I was in the Marlins and the 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:29.080 Indians and it was like eighty five degrees in Miami, 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.080 and then we went to Cleveland and there were snow 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:35.400 flurries in uh in Cleveland at that uh So some 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:36.800 of the other stuff I remember, we used to those 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:39.840 remotes like I talked about in the early days, and 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.840 and I recall we we would have we would be 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.719 so upset during the show, me and Dave that we 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.640 were just pretty much bash you the entire time that 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.680 you were out. Did a great job. You did a 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.640 great job of that. And then of course the term 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.480 jackass became famous because of what one of the two 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.760 of you did as a fake call in call. Fox 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:03.880 Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.120 Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.120 com and within the I Heart Radio app. Search f 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.920 s R to listen live. Yeah, well, we can get 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:15.840 to that. But I remember you. We were doing a 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.280 show from a tire shop, a tire like oil were 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.600 placed and and we were just slaying Lee on the 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:29.320 radio and you drove by the remote and I can 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:32.520 still visualize, I have this memory years later, and the 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.880 lead drove by. Are We're doing a remote rom the 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:39.200 here and lead drives by in this big I think 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.160 it was the Mercedes that I think the Mercedes then, 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.960 but I had the top down to my Mercedes convertible. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.600 convertible with Mercedes. He drives by and he's got Lee's 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.960 got pretty long arms and he extends his arm all 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:54.240 the way up full bird, driving down the street in 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.720 l A giving us the bird there and I I 0:14:57.760 --> 0:15:01.440 can still visualize, like I have that tattooed in my brain. Lee, 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.760 is your arm fully extended giving me and Dave of 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.920 the bird. It was wonderful. And the reason I was 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:11.560 there is because in those days you had the show 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.200 on Saturdays before me. You were doing the remote, and 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.120 I decided to stop off, do what I did, hunk 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:20.600 the horn, give you the bird, and continue to the 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.480 station to do my show, which was directly after you 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.080 were done. Yeah, yeah, Oh. The other one I remember 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.960 from that those remotes is and I think you were 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:30.800 on remote this day and we were not. We were 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:35.760 in the station and there was a problem, a glitch, 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:41.800 and man, this is I know. I know what you're 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.600 going to say. And again, let me express to the 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.280 people listening to this podcast every word that's been said 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.240 before and will for the rest of this podcast with 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.960 me on it then, and I are absolutely telling you 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:59.400 the truth. So Lee does this entire heartfelt monologue. God 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.120 only knows what it was about. But you were ranting 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:05.440 and raving like a lunatic, and and you did about 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:10.880 fifteen fifteen minutes of radio and the entire time you 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.800 were not on the air. And I remember I went 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:15.960 up behind the engineer and I hit the button on 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.040 the talk back you're on a remote, and I think 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.560 I said something to the effect, h Lee, that was 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:24.960 a wonderful monologue. That was a great monologue. Can you 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:28.680 do it over again? Nobody heard it? And you were 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:31.800 very of you were you were rage. You were so 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:38.160 angry that you were furious. Yes, I remembered distinkly because 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.320 I was doing a remote. It was like, I'm gonna 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:44.600 guess sometime in like a February or March, and you 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.920 know that the salespeople that used to get these remotes 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.520 and never pay us for being out there, that's for sure. 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:54.240 They would let us know last minute, like on a Thursday, 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.680 when that Saturday remote was going to be and we 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.400 had to be there right well, yeah, and a Katie 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.400 we were in those days. We would show up and 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.440 they wouldn't know who we were there. They didn't know 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:05.879 who why we were there, or who we who we 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.640 were there was. There was a lot of confusion. Uh 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:14.159 So in this particular case, it was in like a 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:18.280 February or Mar early March type period where it was 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.960 about in the morning, because we were Ben and I 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.760 were doing these shows before noon. I mean we were 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.119 doing them like seven o'clock in the morning till eleven 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:29.720 or something between the two of us. And it is 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:34.240 cold as hell, and I am outside the remote was 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:39.200 totally outside, and I'm really cold, and I'm doing this 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:43.280 monologue and there's like five people that are there that 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.240 that are watching because they promoted the remote so well 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.000 that five people showed up for the show. And you've 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:52.640 got two people that are handling from our and as 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.880 you well know, you know, sending up the equipment and monitoring, 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.280 you know, all of the meters and stuff. So there's 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.720 about a total of eight people, of which I and 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.120 two others are from the station and maybe at best 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.280 five other people. I'm talking, I'm talking, I'm doing. And 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.879 you know that we had like ten eleven minutes between 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.879 certain breaks and stuff, and I go through this entire 0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:17.000 anger monologue of whatever it was about what was happening 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.399 that was so stupid and not intelligent about a team 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.840 or the league or whatever. And we go into a break. 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:26.520 As we go into the break, in my head set, 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:30.639 I hear Ben and then says exactly what you said. 0:18:30.720 --> 0:18:33.680 He said, that was a tremendous monologue. He did. Great. 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.080 You were screaming and yelling. By the way, nobody heard 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.879 you because the antenna is down and nobody is getting 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.240 a broadcast signal at all. We'll let you know when 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:50.240 it's back up. And I am outside, freezing my ass 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:54.760 off and thinking, now I'm mad because I had just 0:18:54.920 --> 0:18:58.600 been angry for ten straight minutes of real passion, and 0:18:58.640 --> 0:19:01.879 then immediately I hear that, which now blows me into 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:06.879 real anger about us. Yeah, it was. It was crazy 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:08.879 in those days, you know, also some of the stories 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:10.920 with the Clippers when you were doing the Clipper talking 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:12.879 and even before that, when we were just going to 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.720 the game's covering the Clippers in the early days for 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:21.720 us in the back in the nineties and whatnot. I remember, Uh, Benoit, Benjamin, 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.679 the great Benoit Benjamin. Uh, this was one of the 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:31.000 all time great stories. Uh, Benoit. You had known Benoit 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.679 a little bit. He was actually at this point he 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.480 wasn't in the NBA, right he was, he is on 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.640 he was on hiatus. He'd been playing in overseas, right, 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:43.280 he'd been playing overseas. And you went up to Benoit 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:47.000 and asked him a question and it led eventually to 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.560 one of the funniest, funniest moments I can recall involving 0:19:50.560 --> 0:19:54.919 an athlete after a game. It was hilarious. Um, I 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:59.960 remember that distinctly. It was at the sports arena, perhap 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.439 ups like in ninety nine, the final year that they 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:08.560 were there, in nine, and he was standing outside the 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:11.080 year arena, not in the in the sports arena, but 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.960 outside where people were walking that you go into your 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:18.320 seats and I saw him. How can you miss him? 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:22.119 He seven foot one and I hadn't been in the 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.399 NBA for about a year or two and he was 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:28.359 playing in Europe, You're correct, And I asked him he was. 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:30.199 He was with his wife and his wife was like 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:32.920 five ft three, so you're looking at five ft three 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:35.960 versus seven ft one. He said, hey, annoys, how the 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:39.800 hell are you? Bro Now? He would never remember my name, 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:42.120 based on the fact that I don't think he could 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:46.639 remember anybody's name, but he recognized my face, so he 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:49.600 knew who I was, but not by name. That I 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.879 don't take that personally, because anybody Donald Sterling could be 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:54.320 in the front of him and he would know who 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:59.440 it was by name. So I asked him how you 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.760 been doing? Where have you been? And he told me, well, 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:08.159 I was in Europe. I was playing in Germany. So 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.439 to be nice and to keep the conversation going, I 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:14.119 said to him, well, you must have gone in Europe 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:18.840 to a lot of nice cities. Uh what cities did 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:21.639 you tour and take a look in? And he says 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:27.080 to me, oh, I went to France, Belgium. So he's 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:31.639 giving me countries, not cities, right, And then he says 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:36.600 to me the most astonishing thing an athlete has ever 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.879 said to me in my lifetime. And then you and 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:43.560 I have talked to whether it's on air or whether 0:21:43.600 --> 0:21:47.399 it's just personal in a clubhouse. We've talked to hundreds 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:51.400 and not thousands of athletes in our career correct over 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:56.760 the years. Sure, he says to me, uh, you you 0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:04.360 know any team that needs a center? Okay, which at 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:09.119 that moment in time, I knew Ben was nearby, but 0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:13.320 he wasn't part of this conversation. I said, just one minute, 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.440 and I ran as mad as I could to where 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:21.560 Ben was about twenty yards away something like that, wherever 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:25.080 he was talking to and I grabbed him and I said, 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.119 come here, come here, come here. You gotta believe this. 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:29.360 You gotta believe this. And I'm dragging you. And then 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.040 you come over and I said, I want you to 0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.199 do me a favor. This is Ben mallor he's on 0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:36.720 Fox Sports Radio, whatever it was at the time. I said, 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.520 I want you to ask him the same question that 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:42.359