1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: If you thought four hours a day, minutes a week 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants of 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: the old republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: pill poppers in the penthouse, the clearing House of hot 6 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Ben Maller starts right now that it does. I hope 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: your stave staying healthy, and we are going to get 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: you through the dead zone if you will the weekend 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: time Here bonus editions of The Fifth Hour with Ben 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: Maller and David gascon As. We are back at it 12 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: again this weekend, and we're gonna do something a little 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: different now. Last week, on a previous episode of the show, 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: we welcomed in Lenny Distro, and I love talking to Lenny. 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Lenny was great, a lot of profanity, a lot of 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: wild stories from his days with the Mets and the Phillies, 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: and it was wonderful time. I think the best part 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: about all that, Ben is you got the reviews of 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: either really good or really bad. There was no in 20 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: between for any of him and his performance. I'm still 21 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: amazed by the people that listen to the podcast like 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: I can't listen to profanity, and I my god, I'm like, okay, 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: all right, calm down. Every won't calm down. So today 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: it's all about me, Gascon, and I'm going into my 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: rolodecks of old radio friends. And this is a guy 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: that used to be a talk show host at kf 27 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: I in Los Angeles news talk station. Uh. He did 28 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: some radio in Philadelphia. He worked at Fox Sports Radio 29 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: very briefly. I did shows with him in my early 30 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: days in sports talk radio in l A. Did a 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: show with him and after him, Lee Klein is his name, 32 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: Lee was. It was a Clipper talk show host post 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: game back where they were terrible. Uh. He also did 34 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: some Dodger programming around the time that I was doing 35 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: some stuff with the Dodgers. And we've known each other forever. 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: I've known him longer than just about anybody in the 37 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: radio business. He knows where all the bodies are buried 38 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: in my in my career and whatnot. And so it's 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: I think we'll just it's it's just gonna play some 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: grab bass, is what we're gonna do, right, Descon. That's 41 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: the plan with Lee, just me and him shooting the 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: shooting the ship. It feels like and all I need 43 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: is a cocktail, maybe some tacos, because you guys have 44 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: a long history together and a lot, a lot of 45 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: juvenile things, which is great to hear because this is 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: all the behind the scenes stuff that that people won't 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: ever get to hear because usually you're talking about the 48 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: games at hand, but this is the games before the game. Yeah. 49 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: So we're gonna get into some of the crazy things 50 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: that happened in local radio when we first got going 51 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: the days at the l A Sports Arena back and 52 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, covering the Clippers, being around the Clippers when 53 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: they were lousy forever, and some of the characters. We'll 54 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: have some stories about Benoit, Benjamin In, about Donald Sterling 55 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: and some things, uh the Cardinal Rule and radio that 56 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: was broken by my friend Lee, and we'll get into 57 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: some of that. Um So, I hope you enjoy it. 58 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: It's a it's a good guy, Lee Klein, their longtime 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: radio personality in southern California and Philadelphia and some other places. 60 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: But we began, I guess we'll start with this Lee, 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: the news of the week. You used to do some 62 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: stuff with the Dodgers. They announced this week that they 63 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: have ended their TV uh blackout. They're gonna be on 64 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: satellite television of all weeks this week with no sports going. 65 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Lee? So let me 66 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: get this right. That Spectrum, which is Charter company, they 67 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: decided to finally relent and give Dodger broadcast to the 68 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: rest of the country and also to Direct TV and 69 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: the baseball packages that they finally decided to let it 70 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: loose other than their own company. Only E D s 71 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: now that there's no baseball season, that was the time 72 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: to do it. Well exactly. Yeah, it's it's wonderful and 73 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: it it announced on April Fool's Day. They announced it 74 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: on April one, which is even better. It's even better. Uh, 75 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: But listen, I want to I got before we get 76 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: into what's going on today, I got we gotta get 77 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: into some of these old radio stories lead because, uh, 78 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: for those that don't know, and it used to work 79 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: at Fox Sports, right, how long were you at Fox 80 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: Sports Radio? It wasn't very long. He was briefly at 81 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, right. Well, you know, I was on 82 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: regular radio for about twelve fourteen years and Fox for 83 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: about six months. And for those that are listening that 84 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: do not know, Ben and I have been going to 85 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: games together and have known each other for now, it's incredible, 86 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: for over twenty five years. And so I know everything 87 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: he's done in sport and where he's gone. He knows 88 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: everything that I've done. So we're close. And so whatever 89 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear, and this is unrehearsed, whatever you're gonna hear, 90 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: it's truly going to be bottom line truth, isn't it 91 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: that Well? Yeah, But but I guess we should start 92 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: at the beginning because I first started going to games. 93 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: I was I was going to Saddleback College. I was 94 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: working at the college radio station, and I got credentials 95 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: to go to like Clipper games, you know, at the 96 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: l A Sports Arena, and you were there and you 97 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: were the first person that ratted me out because you 98 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: knew my scam. You knew that I was not really 99 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: a real member of the media, and you called me 100 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: on it. And I remember that day at the sports arena. 101 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 1: We're like, hey, k s br, I know where that 102 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: I know at that station. Well that that's absolutely true, 103 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: But you have to admit I didn't tell anybody I 104 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: ratted you out to you. I didn't rat you out 105 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: to anybody with the Clippers or anybody in the media. Yeah. 106 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: And uh, and then you did Clipper talk. I remember 107 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: you did that for several years and the Clippers were 108 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: horrible most of that time, and you you were polishing 109 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: turds on a nightly basis of not terrible the Clippers were. Yes, 110 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: the job of doing that for six or seven years 111 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: when they were horrendous would be equal to what Dr 112 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 1: Fauci has to do speaking two minutes after the President 113 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: to walk a tight rope across the Grand Canyon. Yeah, 114 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: it was. It was wild. And the sports arena, to 115 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: give an idea for those that are young and don't remember, 116 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: the l A Memorial Sports are where the Clippers played 117 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: truly was the masoleneb We would be sitting there and 118 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: there would be more fans in the second half. They 119 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: would let the homeless people in that part of l 120 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: A come into the arena to warm up on a 121 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: cool night. It was wild. It was crazy back then. 122 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: They were and this is not an exaggeration for your listeners. Um, 123 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: and then you would agree, the biggest crowd other than 124 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: if they were playing Michael and the os or Larry 125 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 1: bird and and the Celtics or the Knicks. Because there's 126 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: so many New York fans here aside from those three teams, 127 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: you would have at most at most four thousand or 128 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: under for every single home game, year after year. I 129 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 1: remember they were playing an exhibition game against the Atlanta Hawks. 130 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: This is in the like the early nineties, and I 131 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: counted the crowd at the Sports Arena in the first 132 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: quarter of the game, and I counted about five people. 133 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: And I think I was high on that. I think 134 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: I might have counted uh several people multiple times, uh 135 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: to get to get to that five number. And uh 136 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: it was it was just insanity that they did that 137 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: for so long at that particular arena. But uh, I 138 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: gotta I gotta go back to some of the early 139 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: days when we were working together at A M eleven fifty, 140 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: the big sports station, and like my my favorite League 141 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: Cline story, No, no, this is great. You broke the 142 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: cardinal rule of talk radio. Ohay, and people listen to him. 143 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: It's absolutely I admitted it's true. So we were both 144 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: doing shows on a Saturday, I think it was a 145 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: Saturday morning, and that we I was doing the Ben 146 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: and Dave Show. We hated it because we were doing 147 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: a nighttime show on Friday, and then we had to 148 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: do a remote every Saturday morning. We had to do 149 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: a remote somewhere and it was a disaster. And because 150 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: we were tired, we don't want to do it. You know, 151 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 1: we would go to some like some warehouse or some 152 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, tire shop or whatever. But you were also 153 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: doing those remotes. You were also doing that kind of thing. 154 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: And uh, I recall the day that the phones went down, 155 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: the day the phones died, and the one the only 156 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: line into the building working was the hotline, which is 157 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: the inside number. It's it's, it's. You must protect the 158 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: inside number at all costs. You can't give out the 159 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: inside number. And I remember you saying, Lee, I am 160 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: not doing a show without taking phone calls. And you 161 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: then proceeded to give out the hotline number your entire 162 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: show because that was the only incoming call a line 163 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: that you could take. It was an amazing daily and 164 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: you broke the cardinal rule radio and you live to 165 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: tell talk about it another day. Um. You see the 166 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: one thing that you did in these remotes that you 167 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: did and those Saturday shows that go way back is 168 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: that you had a partner to talk to. I did 169 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: my show by myself, so I did not on a 170 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: Saturday morning, and you knew what it was to get 171 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: up on a Saturday because we had weekday jobs to 172 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: begin with work on a Saturday. I was not going 173 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: to do a monologue and talk with nobody for a 174 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: con for the entire two hours of that show. So yes, 175 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: I gave it out. But here's the good point. People 176 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: use that number. They called in. I had callers, and 177 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: at the very end of the show, I actually said 178 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: this on the air, the phone number that I've been 179 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: given out, never use it again. I think you said 180 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: it was like today only or something like that. Today 181 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: it whatever, it was like, I was trying to erase 182 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: inc not pencil. And then there's a couple of things 183 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: I remember from that period of my bloviating career with 184 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: you is hold it, hold it back off. Let me 185 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: tell the story about this. Okay, you and I were 186 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: sitting at the sports arena, and we always sit next 187 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 1: to each other, and as empty as we've had described 188 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: it was at all times. One night during a game, 189 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: so empty in the upper deck in the far corner, 190 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: there was a guy and a girl sitting on the 191 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: guy's lap. And Jim Hill, who is a very famous 192 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: uh news reporter for thirty five years on television here 193 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: and still is in Los Angeles, that knows both then 194 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: and I very very well. Yeah, he grabbed my binoculars 195 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: to take a look at this. Help people what was 196 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: going on during the game. Yeah, None of us, the 197 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: all of all the radio row or TV row or 198 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: whatever that part of the press box, none of us 199 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: were watching the game. We were all fascinated by the 200 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: people stooping in the upper deck at the sports arena. 201 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, and we only had one pair of binoculars. 202 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: Remember we were passing the binoculars around across the road. 203 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: We were Everyone wanted to their binoculars and uh and 204 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: there was only one pair to go around. So we're 205 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: all fighting for the binoculars to see what was going 206 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: on in wild and and it was a girl sitting 207 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: on a guy's lap. And anybody with an imagination can 208 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: understand and think and whatever you're thinking, Yes, that was 209 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: what was happening. Yeah, and it was it was rather 210 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: bold too, because there was nobody in the arena like 211 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: they stood out. They went to the very top row 212 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: and there was no one around them. They were like 213 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: they were isolated the very I guess they figured nobody 214 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: would look king up there because everyone's looking at the court. 215 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: But surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise. So say what they were 216 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: sitting in like next to the top row in the back, 217 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: and there wasn't a human being within any three sections 218 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: of them? Yeah, exactly, I mean, this is no one 219 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: at those games. It was. It was insane. Why don't 220 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: why don't you tell him the story when you went 221 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: to the World Series in Cleveland, you in uh, you 222 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: in bigsie and when you had to do a phone show, 223 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we well we had gone, we had flown 224 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: into Cleveland, and then we were supposed to broadcast from 225 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: the Indians Ballpark and there was some kind of calamity 226 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: that had taken place, some kind of snaffoo, and so 227 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: we this is this. You couldn't even do this today. 228 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: I guess you just have to do on your cell phone. 229 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: But we found a bank of pay phones out in 230 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: suburban Ohio, not even in Cleveland, was outside of Cleveland, 231 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: and we re seeded. We we I was on one 232 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: pay phone and uh and he was on the other 233 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: pay phone and we did the show from a bank 234 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: of pay phones in in beautiful suburban Ohio. They're outside 235 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: of Cleveland, and direct me if I'm wrong. It was 236 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: during that World Series that you were there that it 237 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: was actually at times during the day snowing. Yeah. I 238 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: got very sick after that because I was the ninety 239 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: seven World Series. I was in the Marlins and the 240 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: Indians and it was like eighty five degrees in Miami, 241 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: and then we went to Cleveland and there were snow 242 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: flurries in uh in Cleveland at that uh So some 243 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: of the other stuff I remember, we used to those 244 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: remotes like I talked about in the early days, and 245 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: and I recall we we would have we would be 246 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: so upset during the show, me and Dave that we 247 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: were just pretty much bash you the entire time that 248 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: you were out. Did a great job. You did a 249 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: great job of that. And then of course the term 250 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: jackass became famous because of what one of the two 251 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: of you did as a fake call in call. Fox 252 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 253 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot 254 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: com and within the I Heart Radio app. Search f 255 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. Yeah, well, we can get 256 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: to that. But I remember you. We were doing a 257 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: show from a tire shop, a tire like oil were 258 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: placed and and we were just slaying Lee on the 259 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: radio and you drove by the remote and I can 260 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: still visualize, I have this memory years later, and the 261 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: lead drove by. Are We're doing a remote rom the 262 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: here and lead drives by in this big I think 263 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: it was the Mercedes that I think the Mercedes then, 264 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: but I had the top down to my Mercedes convertible. Yeah, yeah, 265 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: convertible with Mercedes. He drives by and he's got Lee's 266 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: got pretty long arms and he extends his arm all 267 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: the way up full bird, driving down the street in 268 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: l A giving us the bird there and I I 269 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: can still visualize, like I have that tattooed in my brain. Lee, 270 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: is your arm fully extended giving me and Dave of 271 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: the bird. It was wonderful. And the reason I was 272 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: there is because in those days you had the show 273 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: on Saturdays before me. You were doing the remote, and 274 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: I decided to stop off, do what I did, hunk 275 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: the horn, give you the bird, and continue to the 276 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: station to do my show, which was directly after you 277 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: were done. Yeah, yeah, Oh. The other one I remember 278 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: from that those remotes is and I think you were 279 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: on remote this day and we were not. We were 280 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: in the station and there was a problem, a glitch, 281 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: and man, this is I know. I know what you're 282 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: going to say. And again, let me express to the 283 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: people listening to this podcast every word that's been said 284 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: before and will for the rest of this podcast with 285 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: me on it then, and I are absolutely telling you 286 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: the truth. So Lee does this entire heartfelt monologue. God 287 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: only knows what it was about. But you were ranting 288 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: and raving like a lunatic, and and you did about 289 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: fifteen fifteen minutes of radio and the entire time you 290 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: were not on the air. And I remember I went 291 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: up behind the engineer and I hit the button on 292 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: the talk back you're on a remote, and I think 293 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: I said something to the effect, h Lee, that was 294 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: a wonderful monologue. That was a great monologue. Can you 295 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: do it over again? Nobody heard it? And you were 296 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: very of you were you were rage. You were so 297 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: angry that you were furious. Yes, I remembered distinkly because 298 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: I was doing a remote. It was like, I'm gonna 299 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: guess sometime in like a February or March, and you 300 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: know that the salespeople that used to get these remotes 301 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: and never pay us for being out there, that's for sure. 302 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: They would let us know last minute, like on a Thursday, 303 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: when that Saturday remote was going to be and we 304 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: had to be there right well, yeah, and a Katie 305 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: we were in those days. We would show up and 306 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: they wouldn't know who we were there. They didn't know 307 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: who why we were there, or who we who we 308 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: were there was. There was a lot of confusion. Uh 309 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: So in this particular case, it was in like a 310 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: February or Mar early March type period where it was 311 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: about in the morning, because we were Ben and I 312 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: were doing these shows before noon. I mean we were 313 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: doing them like seven o'clock in the morning till eleven 314 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: or something between the two of us. And it is 315 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: cold as hell, and I am outside the remote was 316 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: totally outside, and I'm really cold, and I'm doing this 317 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: monologue and there's like five people that are there that 318 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: that are watching because they promoted the remote so well 319 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: that five people showed up for the show. And you've 320 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: got two people that are handling from our and as 321 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: you well know, you know, sending up the equipment and monitoring, 322 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: you know, all of the meters and stuff. So there's 323 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: about a total of eight people, of which I and 324 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: two others are from the station and maybe at best 325 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: five other people. I'm talking, I'm talking, I'm doing. And 326 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: you know that we had like ten eleven minutes between 327 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 1: certain breaks and stuff, and I go through this entire 328 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: anger monologue of whatever it was about what was happening 329 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: that was so stupid and not intelligent about a team 330 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: or the league or whatever. And we go into a break. 331 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: As we go into the break, in my head set, 332 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: I hear Ben and then says exactly what you said. 333 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: He said, that was a tremendous monologue. He did. Great. 334 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: You were screaming and yelling. By the way, nobody heard 335 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: you because the antenna is down and nobody is getting 336 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: a broadcast signal at all. We'll let you know when 337 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: it's back up. And I am outside, freezing my ass 338 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: off and thinking, now I'm mad because I had just 339 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: been angry for ten straight minutes of real passion, and 340 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: then immediately I hear that, which now blows me into 341 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: real anger about us. Yeah, it was. It was crazy 342 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: in those days, you know, also some of the stories 343 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: with the Clippers when you were doing the Clipper talking 344 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: and even before that, when we were just going to 345 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: the game's covering the Clippers in the early days for 346 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: us in the back in the nineties and whatnot. I remember, Uh, Benoit, Benjamin, 347 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: the great Benoit Benjamin. Uh, this was one of the 348 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: all time great stories. Uh, Benoit. You had known Benoit 349 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: a little bit. He was actually at this point he 350 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: wasn't in the NBA, right he was, he is on 351 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: he was on hiatus. He'd been playing in overseas, right, 352 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: he'd been playing overseas. And you went up to Benoit 353 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: and asked him a question and it led eventually to 354 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: one of the funniest, funniest moments I can recall involving 355 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: an athlete after a game. It was hilarious. Um, I 356 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: remember that distinctly. It was at the sports arena, perhap 357 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: ups like in ninety nine, the final year that they 358 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: were there, in nine, and he was standing outside the 359 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: year arena, not in the in the sports arena, but 360 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: outside where people were walking that you go into your 361 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: seats and I saw him. How can you miss him? 362 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: He seven foot one and I hadn't been in the 363 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: NBA for about a year or two and he was 364 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: playing in Europe, You're correct, And I asked him he was. 365 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 1: He was with his wife and his wife was like 366 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: five ft three, so you're looking at five ft three 367 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: versus seven ft one. He said, hey, annoys, how the 368 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: hell are you? Bro Now? He would never remember my name, 369 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: based on the fact that I don't think he could 370 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: remember anybody's name, but he recognized my face, so he 371 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: knew who I was, but not by name. That I 372 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: don't take that personally, because anybody Donald Sterling could be 373 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: in the front of him and he would know who 374 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: it was by name. So I asked him how you 375 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: been doing? Where have you been? And he told me, well, 376 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: I was in Europe. I was playing in Germany. So 377 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: to be nice and to keep the conversation going, I 378 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: said to him, well, you must have gone in Europe 379 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: to a lot of nice cities. Uh what cities did 380 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: you tour and take a look in? And he says 381 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: to me, oh, I went to France, Belgium. So he's 382 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: giving me countries, not cities, right, And then he says 383 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: to me the most astonishing thing an athlete has ever 384 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: said to me in my lifetime. And then you and 385 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: I have talked to whether it's on air or whether 386 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: it's just personal in a clubhouse. We've talked to hundreds 387 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: and not thousands of athletes in our career correct over 388 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: the years. Sure, he says to me, uh, you you 389 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: know any team that needs a center? Okay, which at 390 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: that moment in time, I knew Ben was nearby, but 391 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: he wasn't part of this conversation. I said, just one minute, 392 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: and I ran as mad as I could to where 393 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: Ben was about twenty yards away something like that, wherever 394 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: he was talking to and I grabbed him and I said, 395 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: come here, come here, come here. You gotta believe this. 396 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: You gotta believe this. And I'm dragging you. And then 397 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: you come over and I said, I want you to 398 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: do me a favor. This is Ben mallor he's on 399 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, whatever it was at the time. I said, 400 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: I want you to ask him the same question that 401 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: you asked me. And he looks at you and goes, 402 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: you know anybody to use the center in the NBA 403 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: like you? Like you and I are his agent? Right? 404 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: It was outstand there's so many but Benjamin stories. I 405 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: remember the story we heard that he had he lived. 406 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: I guess it was in Louisiana or he bought up. 407 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: He bought. This is with his rookie money that he 408 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: got up front when he was he was picked as 409 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: the first round draft for number one. He was the 410 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: number one draft pick and the Clippers always had the 411 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: number one draft pick and they selected Bennoit Benjamin. Yeah, 412 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: I think he was like the third overall pick or somebody. 413 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,719 Speaker 1: But but so he bought with his rookie contract, he 414 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 1: bought a cigarette boat, which is like, and I'm not 415 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: really into boats, but apparently this is like a racing boat. 416 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,479 Speaker 1: But it's only designed right, what is it? It's not 417 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: designed for the ocean, right is that? Or no? No, no, 418 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: it's designed for the lake races that they still may have. 419 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: But we're large at the time with people with drug 420 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: money and big money that we're buying these cigarette boats 421 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: that were smuggling things uh into the coast of Florida 422 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: or racing them in the real racing league of UH 423 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: National or International cigarette boats. They were the ones in 424 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: Miami Vice that you see in that old TV show, 425 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: and they cost at the time back in those days, 426 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 1: in in the late eighties, I'm gonna say around thirty 427 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: or forty dollars then, so this is a very expensive item. 428 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: But now, for as Paul Harvey would say back in 429 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: the day, the rest of the story, Now, why was 430 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: this so unique? Why was it so amazing that Benoit Benjamin, 431 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 1: former NBA player in that era, bought one of these 432 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: cigarette boats? What pay off? The rest of the story, Lee, 433 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: Why was this a problem for Benoit? Because we're Benoit, 434 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: they believe I'm saying this because it's so stupid. Right 435 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: where Benoit lived in Louisiana, there was a small river 436 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: of which he had a place that was off of 437 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 1: a little stream of the river, and he wanted to 438 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: dock it in the stream. And the stream is only 439 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: about three ft deep, so it was it was totally 440 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: impossible for him to take that vote and navigate through 441 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: the stream about a half a mile to where the 442 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: river was, and the river was tiny and thin to 443 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: begin with. This wasn't a Mississippi path. This was like 444 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: a drip from a faucet into a glass. And he 445 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: wanted a cigaret boat that costs forty dollars the race, 446 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: and that was the That's the beginning of how we 447 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: knew the insanity is about him. And one more thing, 448 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: and you tell it. We were at the Pond in Anaheim. 449 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: It was called the Pond the Pond, and the Clippers 450 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: would play six or eight regular season games. Uh, not 451 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: in the sports arena, but go down to the Pond 452 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: to Orange County and play regular season games. And during 453 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: one of those regular season games, they were playing the 454 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: Vancouver Grizzlies before they moved to Memphis, and Benoit was 455 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: the center on the Vancouver Grizzlies. And you and another 456 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: buddy that was in San Diego on the air in 457 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: San Diego doing sports talk that you were very friendly with. 458 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: The two of you walked into the Vancouver locker room 459 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: and you pick up the story. Yeah. So I was 460 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: with my my, my guy, Dave Pala from San Diego, 461 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: and so I had known Benoit every time he came 462 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: back to l A after he left the Clippers. Uh. 463 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: He was very easy to provoke. UM. And he was 464 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: because all you had to do was bring up the fans, 465 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: and Benoit would just ignite. Uh. He would be in 466 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: flame because he was so upset with the fans. And 467 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: so I asked him because a random question was something 468 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: to do with you know, you know, what do you 469 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: think about the fans you know, still booing you or 470 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: something like that. And Benoy then he's sitting in his locker. 471 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: He starts out kind of calm at first, and he 472 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: starts answering the question. And then as he's talking, things 473 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: are escalating, right, He's getting angrier and angrier, and he 474 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: slowly building up and then he starts punching his hand 475 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 1: like he wants to punch me. And uh, it's it's 476 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: like I just poured lighter fluid on top of this. 477 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: And he starts he goes on this rant about how 478 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'll play you anywhere, United States or Canada. 479 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: He's going on this old big rant about how he's 480 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, he's the greatest. It was unbelievable. It was 481 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: absolutely insane. I have it on tape somewhere, but I 482 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: think it's on like cassette tape because it was so long. 483 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: Yes it is. And and he he said, I'll fight anybody, 484 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: I'll fight you. I'll fight two fans. And he was 485 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: pounding his fist into his other hand so loud that 486 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: when you came out of the locker room you had 487 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: that dape recorder of cassette that you had recorded him 488 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: on and you gave it to me and you played 489 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: it so I could hear it. And it was only 490 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: like a minute after you left that you told me 491 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: you won't believe this, and I listened to it, and 492 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: that's exactly what it was. It was so loud that 493 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: you could hear, literally without hesitation, several times, his hand pounding, 494 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: his fists, pounding into his hand. And remember he's seven 495 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 1: ft one, so he has gigantic hands to begin with. 496 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: And you hear him pounding and pounding and talking and 497 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: talking I'll fight anybody, I'll fight you. And he's pounding 498 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: and pounding. It's like, oh my god, this is like 499 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: a w W E WrestleMania in the locker room before 500 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: they walk out. Be sure to catch live editions of 501 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two a m. Eastern 502 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: eleven p m. Pacific. Yeah, alright, one other story then 503 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: we'll we'll bring in guests on here in a second, 504 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: because he's letting me just talk here, which is good 505 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: because he's gonna he's gonna complain later that I'm not 506 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: letting him talk. But you're my friend. You're not his friend. 507 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: You're my friendly and um. The other story with with 508 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: the Clippers that I must tell, We're gonna have you 509 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: on again down the line. But the other story I 510 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: have to tell is when we ended up in the 511 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: V I P Suites in Scottsdale hanging out on the 512 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: in the owner's suite with the inflamous Donald Sterling, who 513 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: has been banned for life from the from the NBA. 514 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: But this is when the Clippers were playing the Suns 515 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: in the NBA playoffs and we had gone I think 516 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: we were there for Game seven, right, We had traveled 517 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: to Phoenix for Game seven and we were at the 518 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: Clippers hotel and we ended up in the elevator with 519 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: a friend of yours that I think was the equipment 520 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: guy for the Clippers, and and he invited us to 521 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: to go to like the luxury the owners. We we 522 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: we we weren't supposed to be there, and I remember 523 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: we got off. You haven't have a special card. It's 524 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 1: it's the access is limited. You you have to be 525 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: in the elevator, but you have to have a special 526 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: access card to get to that particular floor. And it 527 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: was the entire floor. Donald Sterling's room was the entire 528 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: floor at the upper floor of that hotel in Scottsdale, 529 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: the Rich Carlton or whatever it was. It was not yes, 530 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: it was the rich Carlton. It was the upper floor. 531 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, and tell everybody when the elevator door 532 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: opened into the entire floor being taken by Donald Sterling, 533 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: the owner, who wasn't banned by far at that point 534 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: of time. You pick up the story. Oh yeah, I remember, well, 535 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: the elevator opened and there was like there was like 536 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: a take kind of a buffett table of food. But 537 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: remember Sterling was wearing because he had like pajamason he 538 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: had like he wasn't at the beginning. He wasn't there 539 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: for at first he came in a yeah he was 540 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: there after, but he had pajamas and remember him having pajamas, 541 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: and but we had walked out and and I remember 542 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: your conversation with with Elgin Baylor, who was the GM 543 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: at the time, who would end up suing Sterling, And uh, 544 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: you were not holding back, you were you were throwing. 545 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: They were trying to get you to calm down because 546 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: they were were you were going to get them in trouble. 547 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: That's correct. What I said was and I remember you 548 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: in this because when we walked into the big room 549 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: there there was a table like a like Ben said, 550 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: of effect, but this piffet because it's Donald Sterling, multi multimillionaire. 551 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: Instead of having your normal wedding or bar Mitzva type 552 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: of spread, they had caviar with crackers and champagne on 553 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: ice core. They had all kinds of expensive seafood, and yeah, 554 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: they a bunch of that. There's nothing I would want 555 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: to eat. I don't find any of an appetizing. But 556 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: if you're very well, you want to eat all that, right, 557 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: And and so I feeling the same way as Ben. 558 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: I don't eat caviare. I don't want it. I didn't 559 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: want these jumbo shrimps that I had to peel. I 560 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: didn't want even touch it. So, sitting off to the side, 561 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: there were only a small amount of people. Elgin Baylor, 562 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: who was the general manager for twenty five years, was 563 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: sitting with his wife, and there was some else there 564 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: from the team that was the company. I don't know 565 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: who it was. And then it was the three of 566 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 1: us that had gotten off the elevator. So there was 567 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: hardly anybody in this gigantic room. So I said hello, 568 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: to Elgin, who I talked to many times and it 569 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: was rare, and if he remembers another story, we went 570 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: to a a Jerry Delian Westwood and saw Elgin eating 571 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 1: with his daughter one time. Remember that, I remember that, okay, 572 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: But his daughter wasn't there at the time. It was 573 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: his wife and I had only seen her met her 574 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: on rare occasions because she really never came to the games. 575 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: So she's sitting next to Elgin, and I started talking 576 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: to Elgin because we're open and free and talking. He's 577 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: a great guy, and you know that he's a great 578 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: human being. So I'm talking. I go, you know, all 579 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: these years you've worked for the company. We're here for 580 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: Game seven and it was the second round. So the 581 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: next day, whoever won that game between the Suns and 582 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: the Clippers would be playing in the conference finals, which 583 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: is unheard of for the Clippers. So I was talking 584 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: to him about that, and I said, you know, twenty 585 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: five years, you're working for the cheapest man in the 586 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: history of the NBA. And that's the conversation and elegance 587 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: staring at me, he's listening, and his wife's shaking her 588 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: head up and down. So she's the one who is 589 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: actually acknowledging with an answer to everything I'm saying. Well, 590 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to commit himself for whatever reason, but 591 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: he knows I'm telling the truth. And then, after about 592 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: three or four minutes of this Donald Sterling cheapness of 593 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: which we all knew was true, including him and his 594 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: wife shaking her head, he looks at me and very calmly, 595 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: in a soft voice, says, want you to say, Donald 596 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: has just walked in. And then we all turned around 597 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: and as Ben had said it, and I'll add one 598 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: more thing to it. Donald Sterling was wearing a bathrobe, 599 00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: a very very expensive bathroom with crushed velvet slip okay, 600 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: and walked over to us in his normal like in 601 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: his in his own mind the planet that only he 602 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: lives on, and says would you care for in the champagne? 603 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: Thank you? And I don't even think he recognizes anybody 604 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: in this room, except perhaps Elgin, even though he's probably 605 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: seen us a million times and doesn't even know that. 606 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: For the previous five years I've worked for him, broadcasting 607 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: halftime and postgame shows for an hour, including doing my 608 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: regular show on another station, and he's even written me 609 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: letters congratulating me because he would listen to my show 610 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: in his limo on the way home because he always 611 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: goes to the game sitting next to Billy Crystal. And 612 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 1: so that story is paramount because it is so absurd, 613 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: so obscene, and it's giving you the audience in this 614 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: podcast to understand that a lot out of things that 615 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: I have never said on radio because I would never 616 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: want to do it in trust of some of the 617 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 1: people that have told me things. And then it's the 618 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: same way would never tell the certain personal stories because 619 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: he did not want it to go over the year, 620 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: but he knew what was happening. You're listening to behind 621 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: the curtain of OZ, the things we've been through, and 622 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: we're just scratching the surface of the reality of human 623 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: beings that are part of sports. Absolutely had some crazy 624 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: I have some more Donald Sterling stories. I remember, we're 625 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: getting to it now, but I remember being the elevator 626 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: one time with him after a game and he was 627 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: looking at the box score and it seemed like he 628 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: had not watched the game. He was like shocked by 629 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: some of the stats he could he couldn't believe it. 630 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, you just you owned the team. You were 631 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: just outside watching the game. He was like blown away 632 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: by by some of the stats. But uh, well it's 633 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,319 Speaker 1: been Dovis entire interview has been dominated by me. But 634 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: Gascon is he's hanging out. I'm doing the podcast with him, 635 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: and he wants to be the Doom and Gloom guy. Right, 636 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: Gascon knew the Doom and Gloom. I'm not really the 637 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: Doom and Gloom. I just don't have as an extensive 638 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: relationship with Lee as you do. I will I will 639 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: say bringing Leon, I was waiting for two things to happen. One, 640 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: I was waiting for the apology from him after he 641 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: ambushed me at your holiday party in December. And two 642 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: I was waiting for him to mention the podcast because 643 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: at said holiday party when I was ambushed, the first 644 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: thing he said to me after he took in a 645 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: deep breath, he was like, so you're just making any 646 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: money on this podcast? All right, what are you doing? 647 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: And so I just wait, let me ask you. Are 648 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: you getting any money you go from this podcast? Well 649 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: he's been five months, four months since then, and uh, 650 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: still making the same amount of money. Well, technically Ben 651 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: is actually getting paid to do this podcast because his 652 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: contract actually has a provision in there that allows him 653 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: to make money on any kind of new media or 654 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: digital money that our performances that he obviously is encountered with. 655 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: So this actually falls under the umbrella of Ben Mallory's 656 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: podcast anything and everything that he does is I'm not 657 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: getting paid for this. Well, you've got a salary, You 658 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: have a salary, have an this is separate the podcast 659 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: deals a separate deal. I gotta have a deal with 660 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: Fox to do the radio show, but this is a 661 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: separate deal with I Heart Media, which is not paying 662 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: dividends right now. Let me tell you. Listen, Lee, I'm 663 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 1: trying my darnest and my hardest to to help this 664 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 1: man out patting him. I'm trying. I know. Look, first off, 665 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: since we had never met until that, we didn't want 666 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: to say that you personally. We did, Lee. We we 667 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: actually had a late night snack together, you, Ben and 668 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: myself at Tito's off of Washington, and I remember we 669 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: were going to talk until probably about two or three 670 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: in the morning about the FEDS and the government and 671 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 1: the FBI call you at your radio station. When Ben 672 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 1: broke up the ruckis so it was an unfortunate breakup 673 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: that night. But uh, I negress because yes, we we 674 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: had a long, engaging conversation one side of that Ben's 675 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: holiday party. Well, I I'll say this on a personal 676 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: level to you, In no way, shape or form have 677 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: I ever disliked or disrespected you. You do a good job. 678 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: I'm not just saying that. I actually feel that. And 679 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: if there was any animosity towards you to me, it's 680 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: only because you just didn't know how I talk and 681 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: what I really truly am as a person. And there 682 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 1: is nothing nothing negative about for me to you at all. Ever, 683 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: though I thought it was great because I told Ben 684 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,319 Speaker 1: after the holiday party was over, I said, you do 685 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: realize that Lee and I taught for probably two and 686 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: a half hours, And he said, on more than one 687 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: occasion he looked me dead in the eye and says, 688 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: are you even listening to me? Do you give a 689 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: shit about what I'm saying right now? Said yes, Leah, 690 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: I'm asking you questions because I care and I want 691 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: to want to know exactly what you're thinking of where 692 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,959 Speaker 1: you've been through so well. The stuff that I said 693 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 1: on the side is because for the podcast people, Uh, 694 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: while doing sports for all these years, I was also 695 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: doing political talk on KFI, which is I Heart radio 696 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: and the number one I Heart station in all of 697 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. No sports at all, just talking about the 698 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: government things that are going on. And I told you 699 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: those private stories and I'm not going to sing on 700 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: the air about the FBI, but they're all true, and 701 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: so uh, you know, I try to be I'll put 702 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: it to you this way, and Ben knows me a 703 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: lot longer than you. There's probably twelve things in life. 704 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: Music being one, sports being another. Politically, what's going on 705 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: is another. There's twelve things that I am on a 706 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: ten scale, a nine on, but there's ten thousand things 707 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: that I'm a one or two on. I just don't 708 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: go into it because I don't that's not my forte. 709 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: So what I know, I really know. But there's a 710 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: lot that I don't know about other subject matters that 711 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: at my state of life, age and experience, it's I 712 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: had no interest in it. But what I have interest in, 713 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: like Ben Ben's interests, it's centrally focused on a few things. 714 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: He's very well aware and has historical value on a 715 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: lot of things too. So that's who I am. I'm 716 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 1: not saying I'm smarter than anybody. And I've said, over 717 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: the year, the dumber, our society gets smarter. I look, 718 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 719 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven p m. Pacifect 720 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the I Heart Radio app. Yeah. Well, 721 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: and I remember Lee back in you'd always complain about 722 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: the Mallard militia. You would always take cheap shots of 723 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: the Mallamis. I've always tried to explain to you that 724 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: there's no i Q test. To listen to a radio 725 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,240 Speaker 1: show you don't, or to call into a radio show 726 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. And uh, and you've always been a bit 727 00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: of an elitist when it comes to that kind of stuff. 728 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 1: You'd admit that. And you you'd always brag about how 729 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: your calls were more intelligent than my callers and all that. 730 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: I don't really care. It doesn't matter, ye, And I 731 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: understand that. Look, anybody out there, Ben knows this. I 732 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: do listen even though you know the time frame is 733 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,760 Speaker 1: the overnight for Fox, and we have three different time zones, 734 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: and are four different time zones in the United States. 735 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: And I listened to him, and he Ben knows the 736 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: time frame it is here, and I do listen to 737 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: at least on a daily basis, or by daily basis, 738 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: at least a minimum an hour of his show, uh 739 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: Eddie the Voice of Reason Ben. I know all of 740 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 1: the gimmicks and all of this stuff. I hear all 741 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: the callers, Ben knows, I know them by name. I 742 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: know all about the people that are banned or don't 743 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: call or finally call in. The other night, you had 744 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: somebody that disappeared for like a year and a half 745 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: and finally called back in and he called himself Mr Coronavirus, 746 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 1: who remember I was very classic of okay, So you know, 747 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 1: I listen so I get a kick out of his callers. 748 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: It's also the time that it's on of it would 749 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,320 Speaker 1: be up that that calls in, And I am aware 750 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: and and I it's not that I accept, it is 751 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 1: my decision to accept. I like then, I like a show. 752 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 1: I like what he does. And unfortunately for then, he 753 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: is now live every single night, five nights a week, 754 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: doing alone. And I did a show alone, so I 755 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: can relate to this. He's doing a show for four hours, 756 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: five nights a week with unrehearsed material. This ain't television. 757 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 1: Where you cut tape, cut tape edit. No, this is 758 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: live every single day, a different show with nothing to 759 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: talk about sports and having to contrive things to make 760 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: the time go quick and to keep people entertain and interesting. 761 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 1: And then you are doing under this set of circums 762 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: fance is a beyond congressional Medal of honor. Job of 763 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,719 Speaker 1: what you are doing. Well, all of the people that 764 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,920 Speaker 1: are involved in your show also well, listen, thank you. 765 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: It is crazy right now. And I know a lot 766 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 1: of people not to suck up to you, but you 767 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,799 Speaker 1: haven't been in our place for a long time. And 768 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: I know you were had a great career in radio 769 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: and you should be on radio somewhere still today. But 770 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: people randomly, I will get emails. I tell you this 771 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: all the time. I got emails and people people on 772 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: social media like, hey, where's Lee? I gotta I want 773 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: to hear Lee Klein. Where's Lee? And I like, I mean, 774 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: I talked to him every once so while I check 775 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,920 Speaker 1: in with Lee once a week or so, and but 776 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 1: you are missed, Lee. People are still trying to find 777 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: you around the radio dial. Look. I appreciate those people, 778 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: and you know it is what it is. I still 779 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: look for anybody that cares. I work for Serious XM 780 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: and I'm a program manager, so I'm still involved in 781 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: in a different type of radio. But it's okay, I mean, 782 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm not there's no complaints here, and again, you do 783 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: a great job above and beyond the call of duty 784 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 1: under this set of circumstances, as most anybody that's doing 785 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 1: talk radio and sports is that is unable to get 786 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: people on his guests because of the time frame you're on. 787 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: It's nearly, if not impossible, to have any live guests 788 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: that's part of the sports world to come on your 789 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 1: show based on the time it is. Well, this is 790 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,919 Speaker 1: it's not it's not a guest there, it's a it's 791 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,399 Speaker 1: just a but we do the guests. We're not really 792 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: guess where you're hanging with us, Lee, You're not really 793 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: guess you're hanging with us. We don't do the guest thing, 794 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: but the overnight. Yeah, it's just me bloviating. So we'll 795 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: put the baby to bed now, Lee, listen, thank you. Well, 796 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 1: have you on again. And you're not a social media gright, 797 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: so nobody can get ahold of you. This is the 798 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: only way people can hear you. Yes, I'll give out 799 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: my email addresses I always had on the radio. Anybody new, 800 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: old and different that wants to stay in contact with 801 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: me or find out anything or me about you. My 802 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:04,359 Speaker 1: email address has always been clippers Man. It's within sk 803 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: clippers man at yahoo dot com. All right, there you go. 804 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: You can contact Lee and send and tell them old 805 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: stories from back in the All right, thank you ly appreciate. Hey, 806 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: listen to two of you. Stay healthy. That's more important 807 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 1: than anything