WEBVTT - Huge News and Update on the Frederation!

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<v Speaker 1>And they're asking me. This is like an hour and

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<v Speaker 1>a half meeting, and they're asking me all kinds of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you compete? How would you do this? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to compete? Do you just want to exist?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be the highest rated show? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be the second? Like all? And they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, please be honest, like we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>be real with this. So I'm answering all their questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready? S's about to hit

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<v Speaker 1>the fan? Welcome to sanction Thursday's horestling. What's Freddy? What's up? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to unsanctioned Thursday. As we talk about whatever we

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about. First things first, Before the show,

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<v Speaker 1>producer Alex and I were talking about Star Wars and

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<v Speaker 1>Star Trek, and I'm gonna be honest with you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm making confident. I know everybody thinks I'm this like

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<v Speaker 1>Star Wars guy, because I did a voice in a

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<v Speaker 1>cartoon once. I prefer Star Trek. I'll be real with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Star Trek was way cooler when I was young. It

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<v Speaker 1>was insinuated that everybody on Star Trek was having sex

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<v Speaker 1>and getting down sexy time and partying that never happened

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<v Speaker 1>in Star Wars. I was like twelve thirteen years old.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how interested I was in those things. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no way as Star Wars was getting any play

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<v Speaker 1>in my house. It was all Next Generation. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>got exposed to the original Star Trek after that, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Captain Kirk was getting down with aliens all

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<v Speaker 1>over the galaxy. On Next Generation they were just on

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<v Speaker 1>the ship having relationships deep Space nine. Don't even get

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<v Speaker 1>me started the movies. It's way cooler. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>prefer Star Trek. And I'll say it right here on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I don't care whose feelings get hurt. It's

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<v Speaker 1>better live, long and prosper everybody. All right, As promised,

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<v Speaker 1>I will give an update on the Federation, So bad news,

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<v Speaker 1>good news right as doors closed, others open. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this before. So I went out to I

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<v Speaker 1>was it four or five places. I can even tell

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<v Speaker 1>you some of the places now. We went to Warner Discovery,

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<v Speaker 1>which was like the worst meeting that I had out

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<v Speaker 1>of all of them. They basically just wanted me to

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<v Speaker 1>do a reality show. By the end of the pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>and knew nothing about wrestling. And didn't seem to care

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<v Speaker 1>for wrestling at all, So it was not I told

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<v Speaker 1>you I'd be more descriptive. So it was not a

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<v Speaker 1>good meeting. I must have failed at some point in

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<v Speaker 1>the pitch because they were not interested in what I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying. I gave the same pitch to everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the only place that didn't work. Also pitched too.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it was? It called Vice? Yeah, Vice TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and they wanted the show bad, but they were going

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<v Speaker 1>under some business restructuring, trying to basically stay on the air,

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<v Speaker 1>and they couldn't afford the show at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. That was a place I really wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go because they have dark side of the ring and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought we could be a cool pairing with with them.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was disappointed there. There were a couple other

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<v Speaker 1>places I'm trying to remember the names, but where the

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<v Speaker 1>meetings went well. But I feel like I wasn't pitching

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<v Speaker 1>to people high enough up on the totem pole to

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<v Speaker 1>get the idea heard by the top dogs. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was the wall that I felt I was running into

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<v Speaker 1>on the majority of the pitches. And then there was

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<v Speaker 1>a weird meeting at this streaming place and I won't

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<v Speaker 1>say the name of it yet, but I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>guys as soon as I can. And they asked my

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<v Speaker 1>wife in a meeting, hey, is your husband still interested

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<v Speaker 1>in wrestling, because we want to be in the wrestling business,

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<v Speaker 1>and my wife said, yeah, he's out with a show

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and they said, well, we want to sit

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<v Speaker 1>and meet with him. So now let me back up

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<v Speaker 1>the original pitch to help get this show made. I

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<v Speaker 1>can share this now was a documentary about trying to

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<v Speaker 1>pull this off for the first six episodes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>episodes seven and eight would be a two hour special

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<v Speaker 1>on what we actually accomplished the actual promotion. So see,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm giving you guys more information than I've ever given anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was six episodes of the process of me

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<v Speaker 1>trying to recruit wrestlers, finding the space, trying to sell

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<v Speaker 1>out the theater or the arena, whatever it was we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to do. I knew we wouldn't be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do like, you know, ten thousand or anything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was going to do something around, try to

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<v Speaker 1>do something around like twenty five hundred in a theater,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think it's art. I think wrestling is art

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<v Speaker 1>and could be presented in a theater. I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>the first guy to have done this, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be that whole process. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying the Warner Warner Discovery was more interested in

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<v Speaker 1>that than doing anything else, and they only focused on that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I kept trying to redirect the conversation and they

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<v Speaker 1>just weren't having it. All the other places were down

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<v Speaker 1>and opened everything. So I sit and I talked to

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<v Speaker 1>this this new company that wants to talk to me

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<v Speaker 1>about wrestling, and they're not interested in the documentary at all.

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<v Speaker 1>They want a professional wrestling promotion. And they're asking me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like an hour and a half meeting, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're asking me all kinds of questions. How would you compete?

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<v Speaker 1>How would you do this? Do you want to compete?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you just want to exist? Do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be the highest rated show? Do you want to be

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<v Speaker 1>the second high? Like all? And they were like, please

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, like we want you to be real with it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm answering all their questions and they're real upfront

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<v Speaker 1>on their finances where they're at, what they can afford,

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<v Speaker 1>what they can pull off, and how they would pull

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<v Speaker 1>it off. And it was unorthodox to me, but not

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<v Speaker 1>to them, because it was the first time I had

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard of financing shows this way and doing things

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<v Speaker 1>the way they were wanting to do it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>try to stay open minded, right, I want to have

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<v Speaker 1>a promotion, So I'm listening. I'm listening. Then I start

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<v Speaker 1>asking them questions for about thirty minutes, and they start

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<v Speaker 1>explaining their philosophies, their business philosophies, more and more clearly,

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<v Speaker 1>and we continue to talk and have conversations, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>we come to the I come to the realization that

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<v Speaker 1>to start something new in the sort of corporate owned Hollywood, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only one independent studio really in Hollywood anymore, that's

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<v Speaker 1>A twenty four. They're the only ones that don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a corporation that owns them and finances them, that's publicly traded,

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<v Speaker 1>that's held hostage by the opinions of their stockholders. If

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<v Speaker 1>they tweet enough bad stuff, then the company loses stock

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<v Speaker 1>like that kind of shit. A twenty four doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>They make the movies they want to make, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why their movies are usually pretty cool. They take big swings.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they miss, sometimes they hit home runs. But they

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<v Speaker 1>don't answer to anyone but the people, which I think,

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<v Speaker 1>or to themselves, and then their art speaks to the people.

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<v Speaker 1>So to create something new in the corporate world without

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<v Speaker 1>an IP attached and intellectual property, meaning without it already

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<v Speaker 1>being a brand and having something is borderline impossible. Marketing

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<v Speaker 1>departments make a lot of choices over presidents at a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these at a lot of these places now,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they don't feel they can market you, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not making that show work, let alone even getting on

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<v Speaker 1>a list. It's very much like you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>a made man, or your show has to be a

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<v Speaker 1>made show, like a really popular comic or a show

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<v Speaker 1>from England or a movie from Japan or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they go, yeah, we can sell that because

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<v Speaker 1>they've already seen it. They lack the creativity of the

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<v Speaker 1>marketing people that existed generations before them, who couldn't depend

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<v Speaker 1>on that studios used to build stars. Who is this actor?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. We're going to tell the people who

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<v Speaker 1>that actor is. We're going to tell the people who

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<v Speaker 1>she is. We're going to make them fall in love.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to show them who these people are and

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<v Speaker 1>showcase their skills that happened in the music industry too.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to build these stars not anymore. If you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a million followers on social media, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these record labels won't even meet with you. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to provide everything. It is the least amount of work

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<v Speaker 1>possible for the maximum amount of profit. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>world we live in. Existing in that world, I come

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<v Speaker 1>to the cold realization that I can't start it from scratch,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a humbling moment, and it's a sad moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the dude that I'm talking to calls me

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<v Speaker 1>up and he says, hey, what if we grabbed someone

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<v Speaker 1>else and brought them in as a partner. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? He says, what if you work

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<v Speaker 1>within an existing brand? And he says, here's some independent

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<v Speaker 1>promotions that are looking for TV deals. They want to

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<v Speaker 1>offer me the opportunity to tell my story and to

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<v Speaker 1>present my promotion within the existence of another one, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like how Ring of Honor exists with AW. So

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<v Speaker 1>I start sitting down, I'm thinking about that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>start looking at the rosters of the of the places

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<v Speaker 1>that they that they they brought me, and the infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>that each one already has or does not have, and

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<v Speaker 1>I start weighing the pros and cons. I talk to

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<v Speaker 1>my guys that are a part of my team and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, these are the ones that I'm interested in,

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<v Speaker 1>But what do you think my main guy, my right

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<v Speaker 1>hand happen to like the exact same one that I

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<v Speaker 1>liked for all the same reasons that I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>I call back dude, I say, hey, man, we like

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. Do you think they would meet with us?

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<v Speaker 1>He was like, trust me, they're going to meet. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me set it up. They don't know that it's you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to introduce you in the call. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>to make your pitch to them, and if they say yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll let the lawyers get into it. So I sit

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<v Speaker 1>down with these with these two gentlemen on a zoom

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<v Speaker 1>call with my guys and them, and I make my

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<v Speaker 1>pitch and I'll be real with you, guys, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for the opportunity to earn their respect. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>earn respect the first time you meet, but you can

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<v Speaker 1>get the opportunity to you can earn that. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sitting there like, I just I respect what these

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<v Speaker 1>men have accomplished and what they've done with their brand,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I'm coming in not to change it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to change it because what they established I

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<v Speaker 1>happen to love. So I start changing my idea and

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<v Speaker 1>my pitch and start thinking of the best way to

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<v Speaker 1>help get their talent over. I can't say too much

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<v Speaker 1>without giving it away, so forgive me for the pauses.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex won't edit them out. It'll just be these dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>pauses for you guys to deal with. As I deal

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<v Speaker 1>with the anxiety, you can too. So I make my

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<v Speaker 1>pitch and we discuss it in a sort of ring

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<v Speaker 1>of honor sort of way, where it's a brand within

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<v Speaker 1>the brand right and help finding talent that either need

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<v Speaker 1>a fresh code of paint, need a fresh start, are

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<v Speaker 1>young and need work, veterans that may not have a

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<v Speaker 1>story that I could provide a story for, and all

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<v Speaker 1>around the board we discuss all of it, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>super nervous during it. These guys are probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>hear this podcast and realize how nervous I was and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh so sweet. So anyway, I finished my

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<v Speaker 1>pitch and the first thing the dude says, man, I

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<v Speaker 1>can really feel your passion, which is good and bad.

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<v Speaker 1>That could go either way. It's yeah, I'm feeling you,

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<v Speaker 1>or that's the only nice thing I could think of

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<v Speaker 1>to say, because I hate all your ideas. So he

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<v Speaker 1>says that, I'm like, Okay, I wonder which one that is.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it's the I hope it's the good one.

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<v Speaker 1>We say our goodbyes. I called my wife. I say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the meeting. How to go. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>They played their cards close to the best, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not quite sure. And then this pro wrestler that I

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<v Speaker 1>know texts me and goes, yo, man, so and so

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<v Speaker 1>just texted me to like check you out. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I hope he's said nice things. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry, man, I got your back. You are you're

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<v Speaker 1>a good guy. Man. I told him, you're one of

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<v Speaker 1>the good dudes. Then my guy from the streaming company

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<v Speaker 1>called me and he said, hey, man, we had a

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<v Speaker 1>really good meeting, and I think I think things are

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<v Speaker 1>going to move forward. So these are baby steps in

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<v Speaker 1>the process. Still, I think things are going to move

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<v Speaker 1>forward is obviously a good thing. It's better than I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think things are going to move forward. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of good. That's really bad. But that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's a done deal. Lawyers are going to get involved,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. People still have certain things to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>People have are going to want to protect their brand

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<v Speaker 1>as much as possible. They'll find that. I'm very agreeable

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Look at me. I'm like negotiating on my

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<v Speaker 1>own podcast. But yeah, it's still a long road and

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot to do and there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of work that I don't even get to be involved in,

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<v Speaker 1>which drives me crazy because it's like lawyers in negotiating

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. I am doing my damnedest to

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<v Speaker 1>make this work. I am doing my damnedest to make

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<v Speaker 1>my dreams come true. I have not accepted a closed door,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as they hurt. I keep finding other ones

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<v Speaker 1>that or they find me one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to be ready when opportunity comes. My

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<v Speaker 1>godfather used to say people are gonna call like me lucky,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm just ready when opportunities come my way and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not. And he was a real hardcore Guy's name

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<v Speaker 1>was Bob Wall. You guys should google him. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>tough son of a bitch, and I didn't agree with

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<v Speaker 1>everything he said in life, but I do believe him

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<v Speaker 1>being as prepared as possible. You tend to be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot luckier when you're prepared. So I encourage all of

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<v Speaker 1>you to follow your dreams and chase him whether they

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<v Speaker 1>whether they fall apart or not. And we're in a

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<v Speaker 1>world where a lot more people talk about their dreams

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<v Speaker 1>like me, people on social media, people on YouTube, things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, and so there's a lot more room to

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<v Speaker 1>be embarrassed and to be shamed. But if you just

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<v Speaker 1>go in and I want to say this the right way,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say it clearly so everybody understands, don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it for anyone but yourself. When it comes to art,

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<v Speaker 1>don't make art for the people. Make art for you.

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<v Speaker 1>If they can, that's a beautiful thing. If they don't,

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<v Speaker 1>then they didn't. But it'll still be honest and pure

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<v Speaker 1>and organic, and it'll come from you. It comes from

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<v Speaker 1>a place of honesty, and that's you have to hold

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<v Speaker 1>onto that during the tough times. And trust me, during

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<v Speaker 1>this process, I went to five or six places I

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<v Speaker 1>got told five or six nos, No, Freddy, your dream's

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<v Speaker 1>not good. Enough for our company. That's basically what they're

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<v Speaker 1>telling you. It's easy to give up. It's easy to

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<v Speaker 1>give up. It's hard to keep pushing that boulder up

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<v Speaker 1>the hill when you feel like it's just going to

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<v Speaker 1>fall all the way back down again. That's like sisyphis.

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<v Speaker 1>You can look that up too, Bob Wall and sisyphis.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are your Google words for the day. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you keep pressing, this is not Greek mythology. This is

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<v Speaker 1>real life. If you keep pressing and you tell your

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<v Speaker 1>brain to shut up, because your brain's gonna lie to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Your emotions are going to lie to you. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you you're not good enough. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you it's not worth it. You have to shut

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<v Speaker 1>those voices off and remember that initial voice that told

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<v Speaker 1>you the initial idea and the initial dream. I had

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts creep in my head of f it man, just

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<v Speaker 1>be an actor multiple times, and I squashed those thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>those negative thoughts, and stayed focused on what the dream is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm closer now. I haven't been told yes, it

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<v Speaker 1>could all fall apart tomorrow and I'll be super bummed again.

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<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't mean it's over. It just means that

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<v Speaker 1>door's closed and you either have to build another opening,

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<v Speaker 1>kick through another door, use a key and unlock it,

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<v Speaker 1>or just keep knocking until someone answers. And that's that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of is it perseverance, that kind of discipline, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dedication is how everyone accomplishes their dreams. Anybody

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<v Speaker 1>that tells you it's easier than that, I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>there being honest with you or themselves. It's hard damn work.

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<v Speaker 1>If it gets easy, i'll let you know, but but

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't so far. So that's the update. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were going to get a short one, but I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I gave you guys the long winded version today,

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<v Speaker 1>so a little closer. Not there yet. Told you guys

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<v Speaker 1>about the documentary aspect of the show that's gone, and

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<v Speaker 1>now it gets to be exactly what the dream was

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<v Speaker 1>and is, which is the wrestling promotion. So that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I'm at. Keep your fingers crossed. I love sharing this

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<v Speaker 1>stuff with you, guys. I share as much as I

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<v Speaker 1>can without you know, I don't want to say so

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<v Speaker 1>much that I screw deals up or that I make promises.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't keep shit like that. I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>completely honest and as open as I can. I just

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<v Speaker 1>can't say everything. But when the deal's done or when

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<v Speaker 1>the deal dies, and let's say, I have to like

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<v Speaker 1>go okay, I'll try again next year. Then I can

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<v Speaker 1>break down everything for y'all. So anyway, that's where we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank you guys for listening, thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>tuning in, thanks for being a part of this process

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<v Speaker 1>with me on this journey. I wish Jeff would have

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<v Speaker 1>been here. He's not going to know any of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>so you guys can rub that in his face on

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<v Speaker 1>social media. Make sure you tune in every single Wednesday

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<v Speaker 1>to unsanctioned Thursdays, or listen whenever the heck you want.

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