1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: And they're asking me. This is like an hour and 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: a half meeting, and they're asking me all kinds of questions. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: How would you compete? How would you do this? Do 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: you want to compete? Do you just want to exist? 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Do you want to be the highest rated show? Do 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: you want to be the second? Like all? And they 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: were like, please be honest, like we want you to 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: be real with this. So I'm answering all their questions. 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, are you ready? S's about to hit 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: the fan? Welcome to sanction Thursday's horestling. What's Freddy? What's up? Everybody? 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to unsanctioned Thursday. As we talk about whatever we 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: want to talk about. First things first, Before the show, 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: producer Alex and I were talking about Star Wars and 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Star Trek, and I'm gonna be honest with you guys. 15 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: I'm making confident. I know everybody thinks I'm this like 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: Star Wars guy, because I did a voice in a 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: cartoon once. I prefer Star Trek. I'll be real with you. 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: Star Trek was way cooler when I was young. It 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: was insinuated that everybody on Star Trek was having sex 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,639 Speaker 1: and getting down sexy time and partying that never happened 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: in Star Wars. I was like twelve thirteen years old. 22 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: You know how interested I was in those things. There 23 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: was no way as Star Wars was getting any play 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: in my house. It was all Next Generation. Then I 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: got exposed to the original Star Trek after that, and 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: you know, Captain Kirk was getting down with aliens all 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: over the galaxy. On Next Generation they were just on 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: the ship having relationships deep Space nine. Don't even get 29 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: me started the movies. It's way cooler. I just I 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: prefer Star Trek. And I'll say it right here on 31 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: the podcast. I don't care whose feelings get hurt. It's 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: better live, long and prosper everybody. All right, As promised, 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: I will give an update on the Federation, So bad news, 34 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: good news right as doors closed, others open. And I've 35 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: talked about this before. So I went out to I 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: was it four or five places. I can even tell 37 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: you some of the places now. We went to Warner Discovery, 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: which was like the worst meeting that I had out 39 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: of all of them. They basically just wanted me to 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: do a reality show. By the end of the pitch, 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: and knew nothing about wrestling. And didn't seem to care 42 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: for wrestling at all, So it was not I told 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: you I'd be more descriptive. So it was not a 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: good meeting. I must have failed at some point in 45 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: the pitch because they were not interested in what I 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: was saying. I gave the same pitch to everyone else. 47 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: It was the only place that didn't work. Also pitched too. 48 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: What was it was? It called Vice? Yeah, Vice TV, 49 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: and they wanted the show bad, but they were going 50 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: under some business restructuring, trying to basically stay on the air, 51 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: and they couldn't afford the show at the end of 52 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: the day. That was a place I really wanted to 53 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: go because they have dark side of the ring and 54 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: I thought we could be a cool pairing with with them. 55 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: So I was disappointed there. There were a couple other 56 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: places I'm trying to remember the names, but where the 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: meetings went well. But I feel like I wasn't pitching 58 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: to people high enough up on the totem pole to 59 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: get the idea heard by the top dogs. And that 60 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: was the wall that I felt I was running into 61 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: on the majority of the pitches. And then there was 62 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: a weird meeting at this streaming place and I won't 63 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: say the name of it yet, but I'll tell you 64 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: guys as soon as I can. And they asked my 65 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: wife in a meeting, hey, is your husband still interested 66 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: in wrestling, because we want to be in the wrestling business, 67 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: and my wife said, yeah, he's out with a show 68 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: right now, and they said, well, we want to sit 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: and meet with him. So now let me back up 70 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: the original pitch to help get this show made. I 71 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: can share this now was a documentary about trying to 72 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: pull this off for the first six episodes, and then 73 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: episodes seven and eight would be a two hour special 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: on what we actually accomplished the actual promotion. So see, 75 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: I'm giving you guys more information than I've ever given anybody. 76 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: So it was six episodes of the process of me 77 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: trying to recruit wrestlers, finding the space, trying to sell 78 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: out the theater or the arena, whatever it was we 79 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 1: were going to do. I knew we wouldn't be able 80 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: to do like, you know, ten thousand or anything like that, 81 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: so I was going to do something around, try to 82 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: do something around like twenty five hundred in a theater, 83 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: because I think it's art. I think wrestling is art 84 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: and could be presented in a theater. I wouldn't be 85 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: the first guy to have done this, so it was 86 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: going to be that whole process. And that's why I 87 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: was saying the Warner Warner Discovery was more interested in 88 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: that than doing anything else, and they only focused on that, 89 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: and I kept trying to redirect the conversation and they 90 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: just weren't having it. All the other places were down 91 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: and opened everything. So I sit and I talked to 92 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: this this new company that wants to talk to me 93 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: about wrestling, and they're not interested in the documentary at all. 94 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: They want a professional wrestling promotion. And they're asking me. 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: This is like an hour and a half meeting, and 96 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: they're asking me all kinds of questions. How would you compete? 97 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: How would you do this? Do you want to compete? 98 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: Do you just want to exist? Do you want to 99 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: be the highest rated show? Do you want to be 100 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: the second high? Like all? And they were like, please 101 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: be honest, like we want you to be real with it. 102 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: So I'm answering all their questions and they're real upfront 103 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: on their finances where they're at, what they can afford, 104 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: what they can pull off, and how they would pull 105 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: it off. And it was unorthodox to me, but not 106 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: to them, because it was the first time I had 107 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: ever heard of financing shows this way and doing things 108 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: the way they were wanting to do it. But I 109 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,239 Speaker 1: try to stay open minded, right, I want to have 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: a promotion, So I'm listening. I'm listening. Then I start 111 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: asking them questions for about thirty minutes, and they start 112 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: explaining their philosophies, their business philosophies, more and more clearly, 113 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: and we continue to talk and have conversations, and eventually 114 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: we come to the I come to the realization that 115 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: to start something new in the sort of corporate owned Hollywood, right, Like, 116 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: there's only one independent studio really in Hollywood anymore, that's 117 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: A twenty four. They're the only ones that don't have 118 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: a corporation that owns them and finances them, that's publicly traded, 119 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 1: that's held hostage by the opinions of their stockholders. If 120 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: they tweet enough bad stuff, then the company loses stock 121 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: like that kind of shit. A twenty four doesn't care. 122 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: They make the movies they want to make, and that's 123 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: why their movies are usually pretty cool. They take big swings. 124 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes they miss, sometimes they hit home runs. But they 125 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: don't answer to anyone but the people, which I think, 126 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: or to themselves, and then their art speaks to the people. 127 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: So to create something new in the corporate world without 128 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: an IP attached and intellectual property, meaning without it already 129 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: being a brand and having something is borderline impossible. Marketing 130 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: departments make a lot of choices over presidents at a 131 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: lot of these at a lot of these places now, 132 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: and if they don't feel they can market you, you're 133 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: not making that show work, let alone even getting on 134 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: a list. It's very much like you have to be 135 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: a made man, or your show has to be a 136 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: made show, like a really popular comic or a show 137 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: from England or a movie from Japan or something like that, 138 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: and then they go, yeah, we can sell that because 139 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: they've already seen it. They lack the creativity of the 140 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: marketing people that existed generations before them, who couldn't depend 141 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: on that studios used to build stars. Who is this actor? 142 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. We're going to tell the people who 143 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: that actor is. We're going to tell the people who 144 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: she is. We're going to make them fall in love. 145 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: We're going to show them who these people are and 146 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: showcase their skills that happened in the music industry too. 147 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: We're going to build these stars not anymore. If you 148 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: don't have a million followers on social media, a lot 149 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: of these record labels won't even meet with you. You have 150 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: to provide everything. It is the least amount of work 151 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: possible for the maximum amount of profit. So that's the 152 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: world we live in. Existing in that world, I come 153 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: to the cold realization that I can't start it from scratch, 154 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: and it's a humbling moment, and it's a sad moment. 155 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: And then the dude that I'm talking to calls me 156 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: up and he says, hey, what if we grabbed someone 157 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: else and brought them in as a partner. I said, 158 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: what do you mean? He says, what if you work 159 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: within an existing brand? And he says, here's some independent 160 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: promotions that are looking for TV deals. They want to 161 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: offer me the opportunity to tell my story and to 162 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: present my promotion within the existence of another one, sort 163 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: of like how Ring of Honor exists with AW. So 164 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: I start sitting down, I'm thinking about that, and I 165 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: start looking at the rosters of the of the places 166 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: that they that they they brought me, and the infrastructure 167 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: that each one already has or does not have, and 168 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: I start weighing the pros and cons. I talk to 169 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: my guys that are a part of my team and say, hey, 170 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, these are the ones that I'm interested in, 171 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: But what do you think my main guy, my right 172 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: hand happen to like the exact same one that I 173 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: liked for all the same reasons that I liked it. 174 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: I call back dude, I say, hey, man, we like 175 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: one of them. Do you think they would meet with us? 176 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: He was like, trust me, they're going to meet. Let 177 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: me set it up. They don't know that it's you. 178 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to introduce you in the call. You're going 179 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: to make your pitch to them, and if they say yes, 180 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: we'll let the lawyers get into it. So I sit 181 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: down with these with these two gentlemen on a zoom 182 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: call with my guys and them, and I make my 183 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: pitch and I'll be real with you, guys, I'm just 184 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: grateful for the opportunity to earn their respect. You can't 185 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: earn respect the first time you meet, but you can 186 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: get the opportunity to you can earn that. And so 187 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there like, I just I respect what these 188 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: men have accomplished and what they've done with their brand, 189 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: and now I'm coming in not to change it. I 190 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: don't want to change it because what they established I 191 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: happen to love. So I start changing my idea and 192 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: my pitch and start thinking of the best way to 193 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: help get their talent over. I can't say too much 194 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: without giving it away, so forgive me for the pauses. 195 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: Alex won't edit them out. It'll just be these dramatic 196 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: pauses for you guys to deal with. As I deal 197 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: with the anxiety, you can too. So I make my 198 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: pitch and we discuss it in a sort of ring 199 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: of honor sort of way, where it's a brand within 200 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: the brand right and help finding talent that either need 201 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: a fresh code of paint, need a fresh start, are 202 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: young and need work, veterans that may not have a 203 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: story that I could provide a story for, and all 204 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: around the board we discuss all of it, and I'm 205 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: super nervous during it. These guys are probably going to 206 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: hear this podcast and realize how nervous I was and 207 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: be like, oh so sweet. So anyway, I finished my 208 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: pitch and the first thing the dude says, man, I 209 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: can really feel your passion, which is good and bad. 210 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: That could go either way. It's yeah, I'm feeling you, 211 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: or that's the only nice thing I could think of 212 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: to say, because I hate all your ideas. So he 213 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 1: says that, I'm like, Okay, I wonder which one that is. 214 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: I hope it's the I hope it's the good one. 215 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: We say our goodbyes. I called my wife. I say, okay, 216 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: I had the meeting. How to go. I have no idea. 217 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: They played their cards close to the best, so I'm 218 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: not quite sure. And then this pro wrestler that I 219 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: know texts me and goes, yo, man, so and so 220 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: just texted me to like check you out. I was like, 221 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, I hope he's said nice things. He's like, 222 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: don't worry, man, I got your back. You are you're 223 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: a good guy. Man. I told him, you're one of 224 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: the good dudes. Then my guy from the streaming company 225 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: called me and he said, hey, man, we had a 226 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: really good meeting, and I think I think things are 227 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: going to move forward. So these are baby steps in 228 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: the process. Still, I think things are going to move 229 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: forward is obviously a good thing. It's better than I 230 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: don't think things are going to move forward. That's the 231 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: opposite of good. That's really bad. But that doesn't mean 232 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: it's a done deal. Lawyers are going to get involved, 233 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you know. People still have certain things to think about. 234 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: People have are going to want to protect their brand 235 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: as much as possible. They'll find that. I'm very agreeable 236 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: with that. Look at me. I'm like negotiating on my 237 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: own podcast. But yeah, it's still a long road and 238 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: I have a lot to do and there's a lot 239 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: of work that I don't even get to be involved in, 240 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: which drives me crazy because it's like lawyers in negotiating 241 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I am doing my damnedest to 242 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: make this work. I am doing my damnedest to make 243 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: my dreams come true. I have not accepted a closed door, 244 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: as much as they hurt. I keep finding other ones 245 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: that or they find me one way or the other. 246 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: But you have to be ready when opportunity comes. My 247 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: godfather used to say people are gonna call like me lucky, 248 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: but I'm just ready when opportunities come my way and 249 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: they're not. And he was a real hardcore Guy's name 250 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: was Bob Wall. You guys should google him. He's a 251 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 1: tough son of a bitch, and I didn't agree with 252 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: everything he said in life, but I do believe him 253 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: being as prepared as possible. You tend to be a 254 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: lot luckier when you're prepared. So I encourage all of 255 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: you to follow your dreams and chase him whether they 256 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: whether they fall apart or not. And we're in a 257 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: world where a lot more people talk about their dreams 258 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: like me, people on social media, people on YouTube, things 259 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: like that, and so there's a lot more room to 260 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: be embarrassed and to be shamed. But if you just 261 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: go in and I want to say this the right way, 262 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: I want to say it clearly so everybody understands, don't 263 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: do it for anyone but yourself. When it comes to art, 264 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: don't make art for the people. Make art for you. 265 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: If they can, that's a beautiful thing. If they don't, 266 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: then they didn't. But it'll still be honest and pure 267 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: and organic, and it'll come from you. It comes from 268 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: a place of honesty, and that's you have to hold 269 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: onto that during the tough times. And trust me, during 270 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: this process, I went to five or six places I 271 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: got told five or six nos, No, Freddy, your dream's 272 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: not good. Enough for our company. That's basically what they're 273 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: telling you. It's easy to give up. It's easy to 274 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: give up. It's hard to keep pushing that boulder up 275 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: the hill when you feel like it's just going to 276 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: fall all the way back down again. That's like sisyphis. 277 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: You can look that up too, Bob Wall and sisyphis. 278 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: Those are your Google words for the day. But if 279 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: you keep pressing, this is not Greek mythology. This is 280 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: real life. If you keep pressing and you tell your 281 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: brain to shut up, because your brain's gonna lie to you. 282 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: Your emotions are going to lie to you. They're going 283 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: to tell you you're not good enough. They're going to 284 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: tell you it's not worth it. You have to shut 285 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: those voices off and remember that initial voice that told 286 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: you the initial idea and the initial dream. I had 287 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: thoughts creep in my head of f it man, just 288 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: be an actor multiple times, and I squashed those thoughts, 289 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: those negative thoughts, and stayed focused on what the dream is. 290 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: And I'm closer now. I haven't been told yes, it 291 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: could all fall apart tomorrow and I'll be super bummed again. 292 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean it's over. It just means that 293 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: door's closed and you either have to build another opening, 294 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: kick through another door, use a key and unlock it, 295 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: or just keep knocking until someone answers. And that's that 296 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of is it perseverance, that kind of discipline, that 297 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: kind of dedication is how everyone accomplishes their dreams. Anybody 298 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: that tells you it's easier than that, I don't feel 299 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: there being honest with you or themselves. It's hard damn work. 300 00:15:56,960 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: If it gets easy, i'll let you know, but but 301 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: it hasn't so far. So that's the update. I thought 302 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: you were going to get a short one, but I 303 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: guess I gave you guys the long winded version today, 304 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: so a little closer. Not there yet. Told you guys 305 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: about the documentary aspect of the show that's gone, and 306 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: now it gets to be exactly what the dream was 307 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: and is, which is the wrestling promotion. So that's where 308 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm at. Keep your fingers crossed. I love sharing this 309 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: stuff with you, guys. I share as much as I 310 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: can without you know, I don't want to say so 311 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: much that I screw deals up or that I make promises. 312 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: I can't keep shit like that. I want to be 313 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: completely honest and as open as I can. I just 314 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: can't say everything. But when the deal's done or when 315 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: the deal dies, and let's say, I have to like 316 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: go okay, I'll try again next year. Then I can 317 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: break down everything for y'all. So anyway, that's where we're at. 318 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys for listening, thanks for 319 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: tuning in, thanks for being a part of this process 320 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: with me on this journey. I wish Jeff would have 321 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: been here. He's not going to know any of this stuff, 322 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: so you guys can rub that in his face on 323 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: social media. Make sure you tune in every single Wednesday 324 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: to Wrestling with Freddy, Wrestling with Friends every single Thursday, 325 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: to unsanctioned Thursdays, or listen whenever the heck you want. 326 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm Freddy Prince Junior on behalf of Jeff I Peace. 327 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Iheart'smichael Toura podcast Network. 328 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 329 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.