Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh hey kat oh Hi, Hi, how's la. It's really gloomy?
Speaker 3: Oh is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like June gloom Oh yeah. So I packed
Speaker 2: like sun dresses and baiting suits, did not look at
Speaker 2: the weather before I came. And it's been like the
Speaker 2: high of sixty five.
Speaker 4: Oh wow.
Speaker 2: But it's been so great though. Filming has been really
Speaker 2: fun and the kids are having a blast, like so
Speaker 2: much fun. And then after today we're going to hit
Speaker 2: up Universal. We're gonna with Aquarium tomorrow and then yeah,
Speaker 2: and then we say our goodbyes and then I head
Speaker 2: off to the middle.
Speaker 4: Of nowhere and they'll go home and you go, ye yeah.
Speaker 2: Because they've they've got a time with their daddy beach Tuck. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so they'll have fun. So it's been a great it's
Speaker 2: been a great time. Yeah. And I only almost puked
Speaker 2: one sunset.
Speaker 4: Hey, that's not bad.
Speaker 2: I was like, I need cheese and they're like ooh,
Speaker 2: because I was like, I just have one small request,
Speaker 2: like can we just get to have like some string
Speaker 2: cheese on set? And they're like, yeah, no problem. And
Speaker 2: then I asked for cheese and they're like, oh, the
Speaker 2: crew ate it and I was like, it's been so fun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's been really fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah I'm so glad. So that's good.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, wait no, not stop right now. I need
Speaker 2: to hear about the Bahamas and the Nick day. I
Speaker 2: need to know everything. What happened? Did you give it
Speaker 2: to him? Tell me?
Speaker 4: Now? Okay, Well it was great. It's great vacation.
Speaker 5: It's kind of anything but relaxing at Atlantis, just because
Speaker 5: it's a lot of walking.
Speaker 2: Well, it's also kids. It's like a family vacation isn't
Speaker 2: truly relaxing exactly.
Speaker 5: So it's like the water park. All that was all great,
Speaker 5: but he gets his day.
Speaker 4: Okay. I mean a lot of days I was just
Speaker 4: like whatever y'all want to do.
Speaker 5: I didn't really care because it was like beachpool, water park, whatever.
Speaker 5: But this one day I was like, okay, you get
Speaker 5: your day, Like what do you want to do? And
Speaker 5: he was like, I want to go into town. He's
Speaker 5: like I just like want to go and like see
Speaker 5: like get regular clothes on and just like go to town.
Speaker 4: I'm like okay, great.
Speaker 5: So he goes up front to the thing and he's like,
Speaker 5: where would be a good place to go, and they're like, well, here's.
Speaker 4: Like our downtown spot. Go there. He's like all right,
Speaker 4: So we get in a cab.
Speaker 5: We go, and you know, he's got like a certain
Speaker 5: amount of cash on him. You know, it's like forty
Speaker 5: bucks to get like two minutes away, and then he's
Speaker 5: got a certain amount of cash he's going to give
Speaker 5: the kids to spend.
Speaker 4: While we're there.
Speaker 5: Well, we get there. It's the most touristy spot ever
Speaker 5: because all the ships, all of the cruises right shop thing.
Speaker 5: So first of all, he hates crowds. He doesn't really
Speaker 5: love being around a lot of people. So anyway, so
Speaker 5: we get there, it's really hot. We find this straw market,
Speaker 5: which is like his version of hell because it was
Speaker 5: literally like ever, like a hundred three hundred people selling things,
Speaker 5: so like the kids are something, every little thing, wanting
Speaker 5: to buy everything.
Speaker 4: Anyway, it ended up being like probably one of the worst.
Speaker 2: Us So lesson, don't give your husband then to pick
Speaker 2: a day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the next day I was like, what do
Speaker 5: you want to do? He's like, I make bad decisions.
Speaker 2: Just side just pick guess who just walked in?
Speaker 1: Who Mark Hi?
Speaker 3: Here is.
Speaker 1: Hikin? How are you.
Speaker 4: I'm jealous.
Speaker 5: I'm good.
Speaker 4: I wish I was there.
Speaker 1: I was I thought you might be, and I'm sad
Speaker 1: that you're not.
Speaker 2: Oh, and here comes Katy.
Speaker 1: Oh to talk.
Speaker 4: I have a bone to pick with you in a minute,
Speaker 4: but let's let's talk to you. Oh.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 6: Hi, Mom, guys, she's here. We got a girl. A
Speaker 6: lot can happen between Wine Down episodes.
Speaker 2: Yes, thankyo. How are you feeling?
Speaker 6: I feel good. I mean the fact that I know
Speaker 6: what day and time it is makes me feel like
Speaker 6: I might be winning.
Speaker 2: Sweet. This is Baby's first podcast those delivering Everything went good.
Speaker 6: Yes, it went really well. I mean hashtag blessed because
Speaker 6: it can be crazier. But I labored a lot longer
Speaker 6: with her than I did with the other two. So
Speaker 6: it just my body is really hurting still, which is
Speaker 6: I feels so lucky. I've bounced back pretty quickly with
Speaker 6: the other two and this one I'm definitely having to
Speaker 6: like pay close attention and list in my body. But
Speaker 6: it's probably meant to be that way anyways, because that's
Speaker 6: what you're supposed to do. Well.
Speaker 2: Apparently Catherine has a bone to pick with us, so.
Speaker 4: Maybe probably does.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, why am I out?
Speaker 6: Well, you're actually out because you've been a really loyal.
Speaker 2: Oh because I didn't say the name.
Speaker 4: You told her not to tell?
Speaker 2: No, No, I just actually didn't.
Speaker 6: This is the first time I counted on her telling
Speaker 6: and she didn't tell.
Speaker 4: What's the date? June fourteenth?
Speaker 5: Okay, so about the thirteenth, I was like, man, like,
Speaker 5: there's no way she's still pregnant. I heard nothing. No
Speaker 5: one said a word. So I like, send her a
Speaker 5: little message on Instagram. I'm like, are you still pregnant?
Speaker 5: And then in the middle of the night, she was like,
Speaker 5: Jane didn't tell you.
Speaker 4: It's like all the stuff.
Speaker 6: Listen that cat's not even like how are you or
Speaker 6: how are you feeling? She's like, are you still pregnant?
Speaker 6: What's happening?
Speaker 4: I knew nothing.
Speaker 2: Here's the deal. I thought you would just text Queendom
Speaker 2: and be like, she's here, so that's your thing to tell.
Speaker 2: So you know, I guess.
Speaker 6: Now we are making big progress.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Let me agree.
Speaker 4: She was like, Jana really didn't tell you.
Speaker 5: I was like, do I seem like someone that knew
Speaker 5: that you had a baby in like any of the information?
Speaker 4: No, she did not tell me.
Speaker 2: Well, Hey, so KB Mark's here in the in the
Speaker 2: in the house.
Speaker 1: Hi, congratulations, that's beautiful. What are we allowed to know?
Speaker 1: Can I know her name?
Speaker 6: Your podcast? Grand baby Mark?
Speaker 1: That's weird. It's getting into a weird The metaphor is.
Speaker 6: Getting a little to podcast dad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I get that.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 1: I do understand it. It's just getting weird. Yeah, what these.
Speaker 4: People already think it's a little weird.
Speaker 1: What is her name? Can I know that? Or No?
Speaker 6: Her name is Lion l I O N Wow. We
Speaker 6: went for it. Yeah, and middle name is Lockhart, little
Speaker 6: Lion Lockhart.
Speaker 1: Lockhart's a family name.
Speaker 6: It is not. It actually comes from this trip we
Speaker 6: took to Paris in August. Last year was just a
Speaker 6: harder year on marriage for us, and we took this
Speaker 6: trip to Paris and we did the lock Bridge and
Speaker 6: we threw away the key and we've just been really
Speaker 6: like working super hard. So we felt like she is
Speaker 6: the redemption story for a lot of that. So she
Speaker 6: just carries a big meaning.
Speaker 1: Lion Lockhart is a hell of a name, if.
Speaker 6: I may say, I mean, it's it's badass.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
Speaker 2: She's going to be a singer or something in lights.
Speaker 6: Yeah, watch this one, watch this one. Be like you
Speaker 6: know what, I think, I'm just going to be a dola,
Speaker 6: a doctor, so legend sweet, like we give her this name.
Speaker 6: That's like like just be like the sweetest thing on
Speaker 6: the base of the planet.
Speaker 2: But it well, there's a lot of babies happening. Mark
Speaker 2: just saw Mark here. Check out the baby.
Speaker 1: Wow a look at that. Wow.
Speaker 6: That third one comes in hot, doesn't.
Speaker 1: It's coming in so hot, all right, because the body's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we get this, we know how this works. Bam.
Speaker 2: I have a question for you. Oh please, when you
Speaker 2: were doing did you know it all?
Speaker 1: I knew nothing, really, no, I knew nothing.
Speaker 2: So like when I got engaged, really she's probably pregnant.
Speaker 1: No I didn't. I mean I know. I mean when
Speaker 1: you were saying announcements and we were brainstorming, that was
Speaker 1: pregnancy was an option that came up. You said engagement.
Speaker 1: I think, okay, well that was it. I didn't think
Speaker 1: there was a double whammy, double whams?
Speaker 2: How I do it?
Speaker 1: Yeah it is?
Speaker 2: Don't you call it?
Speaker 3: Good by?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Thank you you too?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 1: Thank you? No, you look great, thank you. It's great
Speaker 1: to see you. It's been years. I think since we've
Speaker 1: seen each other. Yes, yeah, you look fantastic.
Speaker 6: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, all.
Speaker 2: Right, we'll get to have far longer, you know, sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 2: Well when this air seventeen.
Speaker 6: Yeh that's crazy. Yeah so fast?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it doesn't feel that way. But I'm like,
Speaker 2: can I just stop being nauseous? Please?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: Is this a rough one?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Have they all been rough?
Speaker 4: Yep?
Speaker 1: Just kind of your thing we.
Speaker 6: Just did going back?
Speaker 2: No, we are done and we're done.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can say that.
Speaker 2: Oh with this?
Speaker 3: Yeah done?
Speaker 2: This is it one, like gazillion percent. I got my
Speaker 2: boob thinking I was done a year two.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying you thought you were done? Then you
Speaker 1: think you're done now you might not be done.
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm like take every organ out you possably
Speaker 2: can when you're in there?
Speaker 1: Is he gett?
Speaker 2: No, I'm having heard all done? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh I guess that's final. That isn't it?
Speaker 2: It's final?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Because I always say delivery Yeah, tye, whatever you got
Speaker 2: because kat you didn't do that, did you.
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 4: She gave me that option and I didn't.
Speaker 2: And I'm glad because she gave me the option too.
Speaker 2: With the last one, and I'm like, no, I think
Speaker 2: I want to. I don't want to, even though that's
Speaker 2: when I made Mic make do the snip snip, Yes,
Speaker 2: and then remember I changed my mind like the day
Speaker 2: he got it snipped.
Speaker 1: Remember that about.
Speaker 2: Well burn, KB.
Speaker 6: I'm always good for a mic burn, you know I do.
Speaker 6: Actually you're the only one that can. Oh that's exciting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so this is it.
Speaker 2: This is one million percent.
Speaker 1: But you're not enjoying it. It's rough. You'll enjoy it,
Speaker 1: I know in the other end, but right now you
Speaker 1: have a hard time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know you want to check in about five
Speaker 6: days because I think you're also going to be like,
Speaker 6: this is it at five days postpartum too? I think
Speaker 6: it's going to stay consistent.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh no, this is very consistent.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the third baby is really something that.
Speaker 2: Are But I'm very excited. I'm very happy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with all of your decisions, you're happy.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: Oh good, I'm glad. Then if you're happy, I'm happy.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 7: I have a quick question. Oh, come on, this is
Speaker 7: this is Easton by the way, long time listener, first
Speaker 7: and call it? Are we going to be doing a
Speaker 7: podcast through the delivery of this child.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, no one percent? Are you kidding me? That
Speaker 2: was the most embarrassing moment of my life hearing that
Speaker 2: bad thing.
Speaker 6: I would like to advocate for this, like I'd like
Speaker 6: to be the one that says we should do that,
Speaker 6: should what we should podcast through it? I'm dying?
Speaker 3: Am I dying?
Speaker 6: The world?
Speaker 4: Does theave me one more?
Speaker 6: I can't feel my legs and so we know this
Speaker 6: is the last one.
Speaker 4: I can't do it again.
Speaker 2: No, I've traumatized people to now not have kids because
Speaker 2: of my delivery on podcasts. Why did I do that?
Speaker 2: I did too many stupid things.
Speaker 1: Don't I love that say that, Yes, you're all in
Speaker 1: on this podcast. We have nothing but respect from your producers.
Speaker 1: I mean, how cool that is all in on a podcast.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just feel like it's going to be
Speaker 2: the same thing. I'm going to have a panic attack.
Speaker 2: I can't feel my legs, you know, like screaming, crying,
Speaker 2: knock me out.
Speaker 1: We do a lot of podcasts here, and it's like
Speaker 1: pulling teeth to get them to even sit down and
Speaker 1: record it. Sometimes when you're like bring the mic, bring
Speaker 1: the microphone, Easton, come to the hospital. You were like
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's go. And that's so great, and I
Speaker 1: think your listeners appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Well, let's do it. Thing, twist my arm, let's do it.
Speaker 6: I think this is why my baby waited till you
Speaker 6: were out of town, because I think she knew she
Speaker 6: was going to be on the pods.
Speaker 2: One million percent. And you know that I most likely
Speaker 2: would have had like a hidden camera, like I would
Speaker 2: have had something strapped on me to be like, hey, Gabe,
Speaker 2: how are you feeling?
Speaker 6: How are you feeling? Speak louder right here?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Maybe I am, though, gonna see if remember that I
Speaker 2: have not a therapist we've had on before, Grace. I'm
Speaker 2: going to see if she can hypnotize me to not
Speaker 2: freak out during my c section. So I have a
Speaker 2: I have a thing with her in July, so I'm
Speaker 2: going to try and work on because I got just again.
Speaker 2: The feeling of not feeling my legs gives me such anxiety.
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't even imagine that. Plus they're slicing into you.
Speaker 1: I think it's all high anxiety.
Speaker 3: Shane Saw.
Speaker 1: I know I'm helping, but I think I'm trying to empathize.
Speaker 1: I think she's I would have this anxiety too, is
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 6: Yeah, take hey you guys, so Mark is take off.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: It was funny because I told my doctor, I go,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna have to knock me out again. I
Speaker 2: go the last you knocked me out the first one
Speaker 2: second one Jay had to knock me out too because
Speaker 2: I was just very like what happening? And then that's
Speaker 2: when because the moment I can't feel my legs, I
Speaker 2: will freak out and then when I and then the
Speaker 2: baby's on then I then I kind of remember both
Speaker 2: kids on me, and then then I remember freaking out
Speaker 2: again begging for more's an X because I couldn't feel
Speaker 2: my legs and they're like, no.
Speaker 4: Did they just give you like drugs or do they
Speaker 4: actually knock you out?
Speaker 2: They didn't act. I mean, I was like I was awake,
Speaker 2: but like loopy okay, yeah, but I would like to
Speaker 2: personally be knocked out there with you. Is that bad
Speaker 2: that I want to be like I would like to
Speaker 2: go under?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, good go.
Speaker 6: This is very la. I'm not I don't like this.
Speaker 2: Well, They're like, don't you want to? Like you know,
Speaker 2: I was like, I'll I'll see her for him right.
Speaker 1: After a lot for the next twenty years.
Speaker 2: I want to do this.
Speaker 1: My wife got the epidural. Yeah, and it didn't take.
Speaker 1: It was a it was a trainee being taught by
Speaker 1: the veteran to He's like, here's how you do it,
Speaker 1: and they like, you know, it's a teaching hospital or whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the name of the hospital,
Speaker 1: but it rhymes with Schmeiser Schmermanente. But so they stuck
Speaker 1: it in and she's like, gosh, I strimmed in a
Speaker 1: lot of pain for a long time then to come
Speaker 1: and redo it all over again, and oh it was
Speaker 1: it was just a bad deal. No, yeah, she felt
Speaker 1: every bit of that with our first one, who's now
Speaker 1: starting her senior year in high school.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeahs her anxiety.
Speaker 1: You know what, it's so much better. It's still it's
Speaker 1: still every every once in a while it's there, but
Speaker 1: it's better in the sense that she's in a better place.
Speaker 1: She's more but sure now. But we're so much better
Speaker 1: at seeing it coming and knowing what the triggers are
Speaker 1: and diverting and distracting, and we're so much better at
Speaker 1: that than we were. So yeah, it's really it's good.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 2: I love it. This is great because I.
Speaker 1: Realized at a certain point that, you know, she's never
Speaker 1: had an anxiety attack when we weren't around. I feel
Speaker 1: like we were responsible for a lot of it.
Speaker 6: I want to put this on the things I wish
Speaker 6: my parents would say to me.
Speaker 1: Mark, Oh, well, I have said that to her, So
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 6: That's really wonderful and responsible, and just like that ownership
Speaker 6: is actually really beautiful.
Speaker 1: We just weren't we We would see the flame and
Speaker 1: we would just throw gasoline on it. Yeah, we were
Speaker 1: bad at that.
Speaker 2: And we're better at I mean, yeah, but you know that,
Speaker 2: and that's you know, but that's the same thing you Like.
Speaker 2: I remember with Jace, I was like, what it is like,
Speaker 2: just put the shirt on because of the SPD. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I didn't understand that the tags were ching him in this.
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I don't understand. Just put your shirt on.
Speaker 2: Being calm and being like, all right, what shirt would
Speaker 2: you like? To hear, buddy pick it out? But takes
Speaker 2: a second.
Speaker 1: You don't know. You've never been through this. I never
Speaker 1: dealt with it, My wife never dealt with it. Ourselves
Speaker 1: we just didn't know what to do. Sure, now we do. No,
Speaker 1: you do, No, We're better.
Speaker 2: Oh, there you go, guys. Let's take a break and
Speaker 2: then we're gonna get Kendra Wilkinson on. All right, So
Speaker 2: we have Kendra Wilkinson coming on the show. She is
Speaker 2: on a show right now called Kendra Sells Hollywood Season two.
Speaker 2: It's out now on Max. You might know the name
Speaker 2: because she was one of Hugh Hefner's girlfriends and she
Speaker 2: was on the E television series The Girls next Door.
Speaker 2: Did you guys watch that?
Speaker 6: I was a loyal watcher and I watched Kendra on top.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I watched both of them too. I loved Kendra
Speaker 2: because she was just out of all the girls, she
Speaker 2: felt the most real to me.
Speaker 6: That's why I was like, it's weird because I'm not
Speaker 6: a big reality TV fan, but something about her was
Speaker 6: so real that I was like, Oh, I need her
Speaker 6: in my life. Yeah, she's very sweet. I have an
Speaker 6: instant care moment about Kendra Wilkinson.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, did you liked did he have like a
Speaker 2: Playboy magazine or over an x an ex lover? Have
Speaker 2: a Playboy magazine with Kendra on the front.
Speaker 6: No, it's my current husband. He did a music video
Speaker 6: with Kendra long before me. It was back when they
Speaker 6: were Low Cash Cowboys. But I remember likes.
Speaker 2: Is literally pulling up the picture right now.
Speaker 6: It's it's when the first time I ever googled my husband.
Speaker 6: I was like, let me just get like whatever dirt
Speaker 6: I can get on this guy. And she popped up
Speaker 6: and I was like, you gotta be freaking kidding me, Like,
Speaker 6: how does one date someone who's like been around someone
Speaker 6: like Kendra? Like Kendra's so cute and so fun and
Speaker 6: just the body.
Speaker 2: I mean, wait, what's the headline? Say Easton? Because I
Speaker 2: feel like it's a little juici here. Then uh oh,
Speaker 2: Kendra Wilson Kendrick Wilkinson clears up rumors about going topless
Speaker 2: and low Cash Cowboys video.
Speaker 6: So I just want to welcome everyone to my life.
Speaker 2: Wait, so she was topless in the video.
Speaker 6: I don't I didn't watch the whole vendeo, but now
Speaker 6: I feel like I need to go back.
Speaker 2: I don't think now's the time you're holding your baby's.
Speaker 4: It sounds like she wasn't topless.
Speaker 6: You're holding your baby, your postpartum and fragile. Let's not
Speaker 6: google that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Easton's gonna watch it, so we'll let you know.
Speaker 2: We'll give you the updates. In about two seconds, I'll
Speaker 2: report back. He's always needed, always got. I'm sure nothing
Speaker 2: Uncountry would have had anything topless anyways.
Speaker 6: Wow, they were low cash cowboys.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm just kind of skimming it. It seems
Speaker 7: like she's wearing like a tank top for most of this.
Speaker 7: I think it's I think it's all good.
Speaker 6: They were in their Bachelor era. It's fine.
Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, yeah, because again, you didn't
Speaker 2: even know. Now if he was to do that something
Speaker 2: like that, now, what would you say.
Speaker 6: Oh that would not be happening now, No, ma'am nope, nope,
Speaker 6: times there changeing. We're all set there.
Speaker 2: So did you guys know about her relationship to with Hank? Yeah,
Speaker 2: her husband, Okay. In twenty fourteen, news broke that Hank
Speaker 2: Bassett had an affair with a transgender model while his
Speaker 2: wife was eight months pregnant. That's some PTSD stuff right there.
Speaker 2: So and then they did the show, right, they were
Speaker 2: already doing the show. Oh and then that's when she
Speaker 2: found out. Because I didn't I didn't really follow. I watched,
Speaker 2: I watched the play The Girl next Door. I didn't watch.
Speaker 2: I caught like an episode of two or two of
Speaker 2: The Girl on Top.
Speaker 6: So Kendra on Top was when they were married, and.
Speaker 5: I think it probably happened probably while they were.
Speaker 4: Filming the show.
Speaker 6: Hank was on the show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were together on the show Kids and Everything
Speaker 5: for years, though, I mean it was several seasons, but
Speaker 5: I don't know like the whole timing of when it
Speaker 5: happened during the show.
Speaker 2: But well, we've got some questions we're going to ask her,
Speaker 2: So let's take one more break and then we'll Getkendra
Speaker 2: Wilkinson on. All right, Well, we're so excited to have
Speaker 2: Kendra on. And I was just pre chatting with the
Speaker 2: girls back home in Nashville. But basically what I was
Speaker 2: saying is, you know, I the reason I have always
Speaker 2: loved you and liked you, especially from the show that
Speaker 2: you were on on E was because, out of everyone,
Speaker 2: you've always seen like the most authentic person, like the
Speaker 2: only person I could really like relate to, and you're
Speaker 2: just you say it like it is. And the girls
Speaker 2: completely agreed. KB. Down there is guys, she loves you.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 6: Do you love you? I don't even like reality TV.
Speaker 6: I did a little tiny shorts and an MTV show
Speaker 6: and I kind of like left a taste in my mouth,
Speaker 6: and so I never reality TV until there was Kendra
Speaker 6: Wilkinson in my life and then I followed you on
Speaker 6: all the shows like you're just a fun chick.
Speaker 3: Oh thanks, and you know not, it's it is an
Speaker 3: authentic journey. So it's you know, some I've noticed fans
Speaker 3: will like me one year and hate me the other
Speaker 3: and come back another and you.
Speaker 6: Know it's, well, Janna knows nothing about that.
Speaker 2: Not at all. But it's interesting is you actually did
Speaker 2: a music video with her husband low cash cowboys.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, oh my no way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Preston the one that was say a grand theft
Speaker 6: during the time was that's my.
Speaker 3: Husband, Oh my god, small world.
Speaker 6: Tiniest world, cutest blonde. I was just like I remember
Speaker 6: googling him for the first time and being like, oh great,
Speaker 6: like I can deal with a lot of history. But
Speaker 6: then I was like, this is a freaking video with Kendall,
Speaker 6: Like that does one even follow up?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that was a fun experience doing a
Speaker 3: country music video. I think I liked that more than
Speaker 3: a rap video. At the rap video, I was like country.
Speaker 3: I was just I could be very dirty and wild
Speaker 3: and wild in mud. I was rolling around and really
Speaker 3: was that the music video?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was thank you for saying in mud because
Speaker 6: for a minute, I was like, okay, alright, But then.
Speaker 3: I've been in nickelback video and that was the Actually
Speaker 3: low Cash was really fun. That was the Yeah, that
Speaker 3: was the main chick in that. But that was a
Speaker 3: fun experience. We flew out. I flew out to Nashville
Speaker 3: for that music video. I spent like a few weeks
Speaker 3: there and I just had the best time. It was
Speaker 3: so much fun. I spent my birthday there and I'm like,
Speaker 3: where's the moonshine? All I wanted was moonshine and it's
Speaker 3: like a thing, you know. So then we just got
Speaker 3: we we had just got done filming the music video
Speaker 3: rolling around in mud, and next thing you know, we
Speaker 3: had a nice, authentic bottle of moonshine. Good. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: when were you were you in the picture at that
Speaker 3: time or no?
Speaker 6: Tell me no, I wasn't think I think this is good.
Speaker 6: I'm getting nervous about where the story keeps going.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, trust me. I don't you said on
Speaker 3: my own brand, I don't go and dating or looking
Speaker 3: or anything that.
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.
Speaker 6: No, I love you. No, I was way after that.
Speaker 6: We've been married. We've been together for almost nine years.
Speaker 6: Oh cool, congratulations, had a little baby, our third baby
Speaker 6: last week. So we're really just like we're just really
Speaker 6: mom and daddying up over here off the road for
Speaker 6: a minute, which is nice.
Speaker 3: Congratulations.
Speaker 2: Do you still talk to the girl the girl's next door.
Speaker 3: No, No, we fell out of touch a long time ago.
Speaker 2: I feel like, was it just like too much, like
Speaker 2: too much of a sorority?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know I was there from the ages of
Speaker 3: eighteen through twenty three, and can you remember those years?
Speaker 3: I mean it was like ateh.
Speaker 2: I got married, I got divorced, I met a guy
Speaker 2: for like a week and got married to Yeah. Like
Speaker 2: those ages, you're just yeah crazy.
Speaker 3: You're just kind of entering life not thinking, and you know,
Speaker 3: people are going to college, like you said, going to sororities.
Speaker 3: It was like the time I struggled as a teenager bad, badly,
Speaker 3: you know. So when I got invited to live at
Speaker 3: the Playboy Mansion, it was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 3: get to live here. Like and go crazy and party
Speaker 3: and just get what. Oh my god, I used up
Speaker 3: every minute of that place and just enjoy it and
Speaker 3: just partied my ass off, right, And that's what I
Speaker 3: was there for, nothing else, And so you know, if
Speaker 3: nobody was partying, I didn't really care who what else
Speaker 3: was going on? Sure, and I had boyfriends outside the
Speaker 3: mansion the whole thing, and.
Speaker 2: He half was totally fine with all that.
Speaker 3: I just did what the fuck I wanted to do.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 2: I think again, that's why people like you, because you
Speaker 2: just were like.
Speaker 6: Gender for president and saying it.
Speaker 3: I you know, I just did what I wanted to do,
Speaker 3: and I no one ever said anything.
Speaker 6: That's a cool experience though, too. I mean, like eighteen,
Speaker 6: I know it's like hard because it was documented, but
Speaker 6: like really incredible that you just like lived your life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a wild time. And you know, again,
Speaker 3: I struggled as a as a teenager.
Speaker 2: I what did you struggle with?
Speaker 3: Just oh my god, I was suicidal. I was in
Speaker 3: psych wards. I was like, you know, I quit selling
Speaker 3: cocaine at the age of fifteen. I was a runaway.
Speaker 3: I mean I had a really rough, rough teenage years,
Speaker 3: but I pulled myself out of it, got better, chose life,
Speaker 3: and next thing you know, I'm at the Playboy Mansion
Speaker 3: and it was it was it was fun for me too,
Speaker 3: and it was a safe place for me coming out
Speaker 3: of where I was. I mean, I was selling coke
Speaker 3: at the age of fifteen.
Speaker 2: You know, where did that come?
Speaker 4: Like that?
Speaker 2: Where did that stem from? Was that just? Was it
Speaker 2: the upbringing? Because I don't know much of your early upbringing.
Speaker 2: Life was that?
Speaker 3: I mean, it had no one's to blame for anything.
Speaker 3: Life just happens, you know. I just I'm like just.
Speaker 2: The crowder that you were.
Speaker 3: I didn't really blame anything. Like I'm a free spirit,
Speaker 3: and sometimes free spirits can can become lost souls. And
Speaker 3: I am It's either I'm a free spirit or I'm
Speaker 3: a lost soul in some and to this season of
Speaker 3: my of my show at Kendrisseall's Hollywood, I was battling both.
Speaker 3: I was a free spirit, lost soul, free you know.
Speaker 3: So you see a lot of emotions this season on
Speaker 3: my show because I didn't know who I was this year,
Speaker 3: I was like, God, what does God want for me?
Speaker 3: Like what? It was so hard to transition from how
Speaker 3: the world once knew me into a whole new world
Speaker 3: of real estate. So it was so hard to transition
Speaker 3: and change that because you at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: I don't care what people think, but what how people?
Speaker 3: You know, people weren't picking up that I was really
Speaker 3: doing real estate, and it really took a huge toll
Speaker 3: on me. They're like, oh, you're just that girl from
Speaker 3: that mansion. It was so bad and it's not okay
Speaker 3: that we do this to each other, like we you know,
Speaker 3: we have a right to grow out of phases and
Speaker 3: we have to support each other, like.
Speaker 2: Like, you shouldn't be typecasted in just the one thing, yeah,
Speaker 2: or the one headline or the one role or that,
Speaker 2: like you you know, you've found love for real estate.
Speaker 2: It's like you want to be taken serious.
Speaker 3: For yeah day totally. And you know, I'm known on
Speaker 3: one hand, I'm known to be a fun personality and
Speaker 3: a show biz expert, and now you're taking a fun
Speaker 3: while free spirited person and you're putting that personality into
Speaker 3: real estate now where it's professional and clean cut and
Speaker 3: you have to be an expert at everything you know,
Speaker 3: and I you know, so it takes a second from
Speaker 3: going from wild to professional and class and clean.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm balancing both worlds right now because sometimes,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm who I am, and what you
Speaker 3: saw through all these years is real. It's just that
Speaker 3: now I have to, you know, in front of the world,
Speaker 3: clean it up and just really get serious in business.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to be just a personality anymore,
Speaker 3: and it's important for myself and my kids to you know,
Speaker 3: get this going and really enter the real business world.
Speaker 2: So why real estate too, Like, was that just something
Speaker 2: you've always loved or like, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I've always loved real estate, but it all
Speaker 3: happened when I found myself years out of work. I
Speaker 3: was struggling badly alone with two kids, and I had
Speaker 3: all these friends, but no one's gonna hold my hand
Speaker 3: and say, here you go, here's some money. So I'm like,
Speaker 3: I think I should start to figure out what I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do next. I had applications into colleges and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. I was looking into pharmaceutical sales. So TV
Speaker 3: never really influenced, you know, all these shows never really
Speaker 3: influenced my decision to do real estate. So people like
Speaker 3: to think that, but it is so far from the truth.
Speaker 3: I don't even want I don't not turn my TV on, right.
Speaker 2: Well, but I think it's cool though that you're showing
Speaker 2: on the show, you know, again, the real life. And
Speaker 2: then I mean, you know, we talked and you were
Speaker 2: just like I'm closing a deal today, like it's high stress,
Speaker 2: high anxiety, and you know, you're you're busting your butt,
Speaker 2: like this isn't just some like Okay, show up to
Speaker 2: set and like, let's pretend to sell this house. You're
Speaker 2: like no, no, I'm like, oh I am selling, and
Speaker 2: I'm oh, yeah, I feel like some of some of
Speaker 2: those shows, right, they're not like I've been told there's
Speaker 2: some fake deals.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Well, all I know is I cannot fake sh right.
Speaker 3: I'm the worst actor ever. And so I said to
Speaker 3: the production, you know, I started Real Estate with no show,
Speaker 3: and the show asked me to do the show. And
Speaker 3: then it all came back, which was really exciting. So
Speaker 3: then we started to talk about it, me and the producers,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know, there's no way I can
Speaker 3: really fake this journey. I cannot celebrate something that's not real,
Speaker 3: or I can't cry over something that didn't happen. So
Speaker 3: I have to go through the real journey. So if
Speaker 3: I don't sell a house, that's the story. And I'm
Speaker 3: okay with that because I'm not here to fake sit right,
Speaker 3: so like, and I don't think that's beneficial in any
Speaker 3: way to inspire women, because a lot of women I
Speaker 3: know need a fresh start in their lives and they
Speaker 3: don't know how. And so I took one for the.
Speaker 2: Especially single moms too with kids. Single moms, Okay, I gotta.
Speaker 3: Support my kids exactly, And they spend their whole lives,
Speaker 3: they spend every inch of their energy putting into their
Speaker 3: marriages and their kids, and they lose track of time
Speaker 3: and they don't know how to, like, you know, get
Speaker 3: back out there and and and and put one for
Speaker 3: for themselves anymore. And so I took a risk, and
Speaker 3: I said, this is what I'm doing this for. You know,
Speaker 3: I could have easily gone in and said like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, I'm a celebrity in real estate. I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna play this real. And I
Speaker 3: hope to inspire women to know that it's okay to
Speaker 3: start something new at any age. You know, we are
Speaker 3: told by society, not told, but society pressure that we
Speaker 3: are too old to do something that I'm pissed at that. Dude,
Speaker 3: we gotta fight and and know it's a okay we
Speaker 3: It's okay for us to start something new and fail
Speaker 3: a few times. It's a part of it. And so
Speaker 3: that's what I'm doing. I'm showing that it's you know,
Speaker 3: that's that's the way it goes, I think, and because
Speaker 3: I know that I have what it takes to succeed.
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, I wouldn't do that if I
Speaker 3: didn't know I had what it takes to succeed. I
Speaker 3: closed a deal today, Yeah you did, girl, and with everything,
Speaker 3: like the show is awesome and it's amazing, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's it's a part of it. It's important to be
Speaker 3: okay with knowing how to fall. And that's what I'm
Speaker 3: trying to show. I know I'm going to succeed, so
Speaker 3: it's okay to show the world that, like, wow, this
Speaker 3: is this, this is hard, and I suck right now.
Speaker 3: And I suck at this right now because guess what
Speaker 3: now everyone's going to be an expert over So it
Speaker 3: takes years. I mean I was just on KTLA this
Speaker 3: morning and I was being asked questions that like experts
Speaker 3: answer and I'm sitting here on the spot like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, how how am I going to answer this?
Speaker 3: How am I gonna answer? And I just you know,
Speaker 3: it takes so long to just talk. And so I'm
Speaker 3: very lucky that I'm very lucky. I'm very blessed that
Speaker 3: I have everything going on right now because I spent
Speaker 3: years on the ground in the dark end cave.
Speaker 2: But I think, I just think that's such such a
Speaker 2: good message too, because I know Catherine and Kristen, like
Speaker 2: we you know, we're all in our forties about to
Speaker 2: be and it's one of those things where it's like, well,
Speaker 2: I just I'm I'm past the point of like it's like, no,
Speaker 2: you're not like KB, go try something society to do
Speaker 2: what you want to do. Are you about to say something?
Speaker 5: Well, I was just gonna say with real estate, especially
Speaker 5: like did it take you a couple of years? Like
Speaker 5: was it hard to get clients? I mean, it's not
Speaker 5: just doesn't happen overnight, you know. I Mean it's like
Speaker 5: that's the other thing, like I know a lot of
Speaker 5: women in their forties. I have a lot of friends
Speaker 5: who are starting real estate now. But I think they
Speaker 5: get frustrated because it's like it's hard. I mean it's
Speaker 5: hard clients.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it in.
Speaker 4: A little while.
Speaker 3: It's hard. First of all, you really you have to
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's there's a lot of competition out there.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not so it's not a long time
Speaker 3: to go to school for real estate. You know, a
Speaker 3: lot of people can enter the real estate business. It's
Speaker 3: just a lot of competition out there. And every everyone
Speaker 3: knows like five people in real estate. So it's it's
Speaker 3: it's it you have to bring something to the table.
Speaker 3: You know, you have to do be yourself pretty much.
Speaker 3: Be yourself, you know, build relationships. Uh you know. And
Speaker 3: my first sale that you see on my show, this
Speaker 3: was was an amazing relationship. It started before the show,
Speaker 3: so it was authentic. Was a real relationship that happened
Speaker 3: before cameras came up and we were able to capture
Speaker 3: it on camera, but the relationship started off a camera
Speaker 3: and they were and they and the the mom, I know,
Speaker 3: she really genuinely just wanted to support me and my
Speaker 3: new business, and it was so incredible. So as as
Speaker 3: I'm moving forward and breaking down these walls and succeeding
Speaker 3: I'm going to be forming my own way as well.
Speaker 3: I'm going to be reaching my hand out to people
Speaker 3: that were in my shoes. I think it's so important,
Speaker 3: you know, we they're they're it's so important to to
Speaker 3: look at someone and be like, you know, I want
Speaker 3: to give you a chance. You know, I want to
Speaker 3: just offer you a chance because or we continue to
Speaker 3: give to one person, and you know, that's the economy.
Speaker 3: We have to support our neighbors, we have to support moms,
Speaker 3: you know, people that deserve a second chance, third chance, whatever.
Speaker 3: You know, in real estate, it's a good place to
Speaker 3: support other people. Yeah, you know, it's a good place
Speaker 3: to look at someone be like, you know what, I
Speaker 3: want to give you a chance. I want it's a
Speaker 3: good it's a good place to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on that. I mean I
Speaker 2: don't I don't know the real estate market at all.
Speaker 2: But what again, what I love is that like you're
Speaker 2: showing the different side you're not just like it's not
Speaker 2: made up and you bring you know, when we were
Speaker 2: talking in the green room, like you have anxiety, and
Speaker 2: it's like that's things that people struggle with because again,
Speaker 2: like work is hard, the pressure of life is hard
Speaker 2: in kids and being a mom, Like, how do you like,
Speaker 2: how do you balance your anxiety?
Speaker 6: What do you do?
Speaker 2: Because we talk about anxiety a lot on the show
Speaker 2: because I've struggled with it for.
Speaker 3: Years, but you get it.
Speaker 2: What is like, what's your kind of what do you
Speaker 2: do to help you walk that path?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I battle with you know, anxiety depression big time,
Speaker 3: big time. I am alone with two kids. I don't
Speaker 3: like to stay I'm saying, because that at all the
Speaker 3: gates so and for men to come in out. I'm
Speaker 3: not really one.
Speaker 2: You're wanting to be single or just you okay right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just too Yeah, I just have too much
Speaker 3: on my plate right now to look at someone or
Speaker 3: you know whatever. But you know, I like to flirt.
Speaker 3: I still look I'm human whatever, But right now it's
Speaker 3: about right now, in my current phase, it's about myself
Speaker 3: and my kids. And you know, I did gain some
Speaker 3: weight during my birthday week this week, and I'm like happy,
Speaker 3: I feel good, I thank you, I feel good about
Speaker 3: doing that. I walked out of yoga yesterday. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know what, this the first time in my entire life,
Speaker 3: I'm just too hot. I just want some cake, get
Speaker 3: me out of here. I walked down. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: guess this is thirty eight, like.
Speaker 2: A happy birthday. But do you feel that pressure to stay?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of pressure for women period, just
Speaker 3: to well.
Speaker 2: I think it's what we were used to too, right
Speaker 2: Like what like, I'm sure like you've had a body
Speaker 2: type that you have been used to, right, so, but
Speaker 2: we're gonna get older.
Speaker 3: Things change, it does, but I'm entering that phase. I'm like, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, I am alone, I have no nothing, and
Speaker 3: so like it's I have I can only spend so
Speaker 3: much time doing certain things, and I have a whole
Speaker 3: TV show, I have a whole real estate career, I
Speaker 3: have two kids. I have so much happening on my
Speaker 3: plate that the last thing I think about is like
Speaker 3: being on a workout plan right now, it's so hard
Speaker 3: I can't.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna butcher this saying. But someone's saying, there's there's
Speaker 2: four different let's just call them h wells right where
Speaker 2: it's like health, there's family, there's work, and then there's
Speaker 2: there's one other. But like if you have to pick
Speaker 2: two of them, because only two can survive at the
Speaker 2: same time, like you can not all four And I'm
Speaker 2: like someone's telling me that on set the other day,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, but like can't you have like
Speaker 2: the health and the relationship and the work. But it's like,
Speaker 2: if you really want to be good at something, like
Speaker 2: you gotta like the only two things you can really
Speaker 2: pick from. Like, I don't like that.
Speaker 3: I think it's true. I believe that else we're spreading
Speaker 3: ourselves way too thin and we're not really being present.
Speaker 3: We can, we're capable of doing that, and more and
Speaker 3: more than any man can. We're capable of doing that women.
Speaker 2: We are.
Speaker 3: But to remain probably mentally like you know, stable and
Speaker 3: peace and mindful, I think that we can probably only
Speaker 3: accept two of those things. We can do those things.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there we go. It's the four burner theory says,
Speaker 2: in order to be successful, you have to cut off
Speaker 2: one of your burners. In order to be really successful,
Speaker 2: you have to cut off too. So the first burner
Speaker 2: represents your family, the second burners your friends, the third
Speaker 2: burners your health, and the fourth burners your work. So
Speaker 2: when you look at it, you're like, well, health should
Speaker 2: be you should that should be a burner. And then
Speaker 2: it's like, but you got your family, but then you
Speaker 2: also have to work and then so that's like where
Speaker 2: it's hard.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Oh, health is gone.
Speaker 4: I feel that so much. I'm like, that's why I
Speaker 4: don't have time for help.
Speaker 2: Who But I feel like that's what the problem is
Speaker 2: is in today's side, because like the mental illness is
Speaker 2: on like the skyrocket. So I'm like, that is what
Speaker 2: the burner should be the biggest focus on in order
Speaker 2: to then be good for the other burners around us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately, like you know, we're in a probably survival
Speaker 3: survival times.
Speaker 2: And sure, I mean I get that. Like the other day,
Speaker 2: I'm set even this is a stupid example, but I'm
Speaker 2: like I was starting to feel nauseous and sick, so
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh crap, I haven't drank or eaten anything today,
Speaker 2: Like I gotta I have to like take care again.
Speaker 2: You're working, so then that burner's like burnt out, Catherine,
Speaker 2: I see you think it over there.
Speaker 5: Well, I was just I literally was thinking about, like
Speaker 5: you're really good, Jana at doing all of those, but
Speaker 5: you're right, when you're working, you'll just work through and
Speaker 5: not eat right, and that's not healthy either, you know,
Speaker 5: because it's like, let's just work through like we got
Speaker 5: work to do. We got so I think it is
Speaker 5: it's really hard to do them all extremely successfully.
Speaker 4: So I think it makes sense.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, if you can if you can think,
Speaker 3: in my opinion, if you can think about eating one
Speaker 3: thing healthy a day, in my opinion right now, in
Speaker 3: my phase, that's good enough. So if I can get
Speaker 3: like a like right for instance, yesterday out I had
Speaker 3: the busiest day and I had some celery and I
Speaker 3: had some garlic whip from uh Whole Foods. And that's
Speaker 3: literally win it was. And honestly I just shoved in
Speaker 3: my mouth real quick and that was health, you know.
Speaker 3: And so some green juice if you can every now
Speaker 3: and then, and and if I could just walk, yeah.
Speaker 2: They say, Max, God, I'm gonna do this again East
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be googling this for me.
Speaker 3: Max.
Speaker 2: I can never pronounce his last name, leg Lagarve, Lagarve.
Speaker 2: He said, if you walk, I'm gonna again and butcher it.
Speaker 2: But he just posted about it in his Instagram, like
Speaker 2: if you walk thirty minutes four times a day, like
Speaker 2: what that does for not only like just your overall
Speaker 2: health and your mental like it's everything just thirty minutes.
Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you. I'll tell you, Like you know,
Speaker 3: I didn't really I don't really open up a lot,
Speaker 3: but I will with you right now. I mean, I
Speaker 3: do open up. The whole show is about me being
Speaker 3: vomited open. I was really struggling for a long time
Speaker 3: after my divorce, Like and you know, we're great co parents,
Speaker 3: everything's really good. But I hit a huge depression. I
Speaker 3: couldn't even get out of bed. It was like four
Speaker 3: years of like do I have to wake up? What's
Speaker 3: what's today? I didn't have any work, I had nothing
Speaker 3: going on, so I'm like, okay, what can I do today?
Speaker 3: And I literally just started like I just need to
Speaker 3: just walk out that door right now, So like, come on,
Speaker 3: come on. It was so hard to even walk out
Speaker 3: my front door. That's how depressed I was. So I said, okay,
Speaker 3: come on, you can do this. Start walking. Okay, what's
Speaker 3: in the sky. Is there a bird? Yeah, there's a bird. Okay,
Speaker 3: come on, you can keep walking, keep walking. I was
Speaker 3: that depressed, that bad, and I finally start walking. Then
Speaker 3: I start walking up a hill. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: this feels so good. Start walking, climbing up the sill.
Speaker 3: I started kept going, kept going, kept going. Then I
Speaker 3: entered the top of the mountain and I took a
Speaker 3: look out and I'm like, oh my god, Okay, this
Speaker 3: is an accomplishment. That's all I had at that time,
Speaker 3: besides my two kids. That's how weak I was. And
Speaker 3: that day led to another walk. That day led me
Speaker 3: to walk into a real estate office.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, so what I mean? You just had to
Speaker 2: You had to get up, you know. And when you're
Speaker 2: in that divorced you know, it feels like your whole world.
Speaker 2: I means, there's like a death. It's just it's just
Speaker 2: everything that you thought you knew and you know, I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm so glad to hear that you guys
Speaker 2: are on their side. I feel like I'm the same
Speaker 2: with my ex. But having that like that trauma of
Speaker 2: like the fairs, it's like it's really hard and trust
Speaker 2: is like, that's a that's.
Speaker 3: A well it was. I was so mad at myself
Speaker 3: for a long time. At the end of the day,
Speaker 3: it wasn't even him. I was like, why what did
Speaker 3: I do wrong? What did I do what? And I
Speaker 3: had to open up my whole life and existence. And
Speaker 3: I had to go really get into healing myself.
Speaker 2: Because it has nothing to do with you at the
Speaker 2: end of because I did the same thing. I was like,
Speaker 2: was I not pretty enough? Did I not do this?
Speaker 2: Or do you know why? Why? But it's like it's
Speaker 2: not about us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you know, I know that, but I
Speaker 3: had to. It really had me open.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I spent years just in darkness because I was just
Speaker 3: what did I do? What happened? What what every day
Speaker 3: was like? I went back to re opening everything and
Speaker 3: and so you know, I just don't want to have
Speaker 3: to go through another phase like that. So I prevent
Speaker 3: myself from opening up to love again.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: See that's the piece where I'm like, but I can't.
Speaker 3: I'm happy for you, no, but I.
Speaker 2: Just like, you know, when you feel like you're on
Speaker 2: the other side of that, the healing and the you know,
Speaker 2: I know you said you do therapy and so but
Speaker 2: I still like, I would hate for you not to
Speaker 2: feel love again because I feel like everybody deserves love.
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree. I just I think that like
Speaker 3: I'm finding other things that i'm I'm interested in, and
Speaker 3: I think i'm you know, I don't think I'm ready to,
Speaker 3: you know, because I want to ask you. Here's a
Speaker 3: question for you. Go girl, now that you're in love again,
Speaker 3: do you feel like when you do you feel like
Speaker 3: you have to you're entering this, this, this love and
Speaker 3: this relationship. Do you always have do you have to
Speaker 3: have that part of your brain saying this this? What
Speaker 3: if this doesn't work?
Speaker 4: I think that change.
Speaker 2: So it's interestingly and Kat and KB know this, but
Speaker 2: like in the beginning, I'm like, well, but if it
Speaker 2: doesn't work, because it's that's a defense for me to
Speaker 2: go okay. My track record the men that I've dated,
Speaker 2: they mostly you know, the X, Y and Z, and
Speaker 2: so my defense was always right, Catherine, I'd be like, well,
Speaker 2: but if it doesn't work, like I'll be okay or
Speaker 2: or But now it's just like, I don't let that
Speaker 2: even come in. And I'm just like, I pray it
Speaker 2: works and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bring in
Speaker 2: the like what ifs, because right now I'm just living
Speaker 2: in today and today I know he's loving, respectful man
Speaker 2: I've ever been with.
Speaker 3: That's amazing. I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 2: Anything else, I'm like, that's I don't even want to
Speaker 2: attract that, and it's like, yeah, it comes. I'll know
Speaker 2: what to do this time, and I'm healthier. It's not
Speaker 2: going to kill me like my divorce was trying to.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh well, I'm happy that you that you feel
Speaker 3: that good. It's really amazing.
Speaker 2: I just would never want to like turn off and
Speaker 2: be like just because my ex and all the stuff
Speaker 2: we went through. I I want to believe in the
Speaker 2: goodness yea, and the beauty and.
Speaker 3: Well you and you yourself is you are love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my kids are love and your kids are love.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so it's so the get you know, and it's
Speaker 3: just a bonus that you have a person in your
Speaker 3: life that probably loves you and accepts you for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know I have friends like that.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: You find it in different seasons and different Yeah, because
Speaker 2: I found it in my tribe girls over there.
Speaker 3: I just I'm just one. I'm so stubborn, and I
Speaker 3: just I'm not in the place to really compromise. So
Speaker 3: like all these opportunities that I have right.
Speaker 2: Now, all the burners, I got it. You got your
Speaker 2: kinder sells Hollywood, and you got your kids.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine like if I dated someone they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: can we go to go on a date night. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm closing in a house right now, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't have time to compromise on some dude right now.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna find you a businessman. Girl that doesn't,
Speaker 2: they'll bring the date night to you. Don't you snip
Speaker 2: your nose up at me with the businessman.
Speaker 6: We need to find you a brokeer sis.
Speaker 3: We have to be careful because you know, Oh, I
Speaker 3: on the season of the show Kendrisell's Hollywood, there's a
Speaker 3: scene where I was on the spot. There was a
Speaker 3: guy on the show this season, and it was really
Speaker 3: and it was really awkward because I really had to
Speaker 3: make a decision if I would go on a date
Speaker 3: with him or not. I'm like, so I agreed only
Speaker 3: for show purposes. I'm like, I agreed to go on
Speaker 3: a date with him for show, but then but then
Speaker 3: I never ended up going.
Speaker 2: It's okay, that's okay, your gut.
Speaker 6: You know, I know I've got babies anymore, you can
Speaker 6: you just you know when you know, and you know
Speaker 6: when you.
Speaker 2: Don't exactly, and we don't have time to go on
Speaker 2: bad dates. I remember when I was doing the Howkral
Speaker 2: Summer or whatever, I was just like I'd rather just
Speaker 2: be on the couch or hang with my the queendom,
Speaker 2: like then go on the date that I know it's
Speaker 2: not going to be anything. Well, Kendra, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for coming on. Everyone watch Kendra Sells Hollywood. Season
Speaker 2: two is out now on Max.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you so much.