1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Nothing's changed. He was the best player in his draft 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: reporting season began, He's the best player in the draft. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 1: When the season ended, He's the best player in the draft. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Two weeks out in the draft. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: presented by t I a A Bank with Brian Sexton, 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: John Oshan, Ashlyn Sullivan and j P. Shadrins Presented by 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: t I a A Bank starts right now. Time for 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars Reporters. Isn't it always climed to hear from me? Easy? Yep, 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: got something to say today, JP, But we'll know really really, 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: so you're just gonna get back and relax and you 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 1: guys joy and no we're what ten days to the draft? Yeah? Goodness. Yeah, 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: there's a at least a look that there's always a 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: little buzz, but there hasn't been a lot happening in 14 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. But now with all this 15 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: n f l p A stuff, it's the off season program. 16 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: You know, we got Trevor in the news all weekend. 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot kind of happening. Can you can you 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: do a big hey, this is Jaguars Reporters kind of 19 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: thing to get us started. Didn't you just do that, 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: I guess I did. I just feel like we needed 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: it this morning some juice. You know, you get close 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: to the draft and it does start to track. I said, 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: can we do this thing? Already? Getting real tired of it. 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna hear some of that over the course of 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: this podcast this morning, start with Jaguars this week, virtual 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: program start today. Um, any of you get a link, 27 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: sadly not. But I did walk in this morning and 28 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: they're all out there in their tents getting COVID tested 29 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: big day to day. So yes, I think it's good news. However, 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: I think Urban would definitely want it to be in person, 31 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: so kind of halfway getting what he wants. JP mentioned 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: ten days from the draft, please it can't come fast enough, 33 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: and then, uh, you know this was just a matter 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: of time. But we heard from Trevor Lawrence that he 35 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: is uh circling back with the Jaguars, the city of 36 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: Jacksonville and fans donating twenty dollars to Jacksonville charity. So 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: if anyone was wondering at all, if there was even 38 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 1: the slidest chain ends that Urban Meyer was directing people 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 1: away from what their real intentions were, He's coming right. 40 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: This was the said, right, all right, let's all acknowledge 41 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: the obvious. Trevor Lawrence will be here wearing number sixteen 42 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: a week from Thursday, or at least virtually he'll be there. 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: I don't think we've heard enough from you yet to 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: start Oh yeah, and uh it's this. There was never 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: a doubt. But every step of the way with Trevor, 46 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if the excitement for me builds, but 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: the I guess the comfort level that no matter what happens, 48 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: he's the right fit and the potential for coolness of this. 49 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: I guess I'm you know, tempering a little bit because 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: I can't do a cart wheels like Brian's been doing 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: since December over this. But you just sort of feel 52 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: more and more like the kid gets it. He understands 53 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: how to take each step in this, because there's really 54 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: no precedent for I know, everybody knew that the Colts 55 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: were gonna draft Andrew looking to you guys eleven or twelve, 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: but that was a different social media time. I don't 57 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: think he had Colts fans buying him toasters. I don't 58 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: know that the Colts fan base was as hungry for 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: this to happen. At the time, they were just coming 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: off ten years of page they sort of assumed it 61 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: the hunger for this kid to come in. Uh. From 62 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: his perspective, it's got to be a little tricky to 63 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: handle to know how to handle it right when this happened, 64 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: and I think so far he seems to know how 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: to take the right steps and how to handle everything, 66 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: and I think that will continue. The enthusiasm is obviously there, 67 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: which brings us to this that existing season ticket members 68 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: need to lock in their seats now because soon those 69 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: who are like John excited about Trevor Lawrence and the 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: already placed deposits for new season tickets will be able 71 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: to select seats and they could select yours. 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We will start with me, 80 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: all right, so this we all kind of have a 81 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: very similar big thing this week, but it's the trending 82 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: topic about the Trevor Lawrence Sports Illustrated article, And I, 83 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: for one, when I read it, I didn't really think 84 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: anything of it. I thought, you know, this is a 85 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: really interesting perspective, unique refreshing. You could say that he 86 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have to manufacture this chip that doesn't need to 87 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: be there. Then I was watching ESPN all week and 88 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: they were saying, you know, this Andrew Luck comparison on 89 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: the field, that's awesome, that's a huge compliment. But the 90 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck come parison with this article that he could 91 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: step away from the game of football, GMS beware that 92 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence could just step away. That's a really unfair 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: comparison in my book, because you look at Andrew Luck's 94 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: injury history that is a big proponent of why he 95 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: stepped away from the game. Trevor Lawrence doesn't have that 96 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: injury history. I just thought the whole thing was so 97 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: overplayed and so unfair to compare Trevor Lawrence to Andrew 98 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: Luck when that injury history is the reason Andrew Luck 99 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: stepped away from the game. Well, a couple of thoughts. 100 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: First of all, even if you knew Trevor Lawrence was 101 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: going to step away when Andrew stepped away, you'd still 102 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: take it. And I don't know if you do cartwheels, 103 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: but you would walk away now and you made a 104 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: good pick. Was it four playoff appearances? He was almost 105 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: m v P one year. I mean he was, you 106 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: know not well, I'll google it. Um. Look, this is 107 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: also sort of I'll go ahead and say my big 108 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: thing because it's a sort of thing thing. It pretty 109 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: much goes to that saying that to worry about Trevor's 110 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: desire is about the stupidest pre draft stuff ever. In Jackson. 111 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: You might as well say yours because you all are 112 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: kind of on this theme. Yeah, I mean I switched 113 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: mine out because it was kind of the same thing, 114 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: because it was because it was, you know, everybody needs 115 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: something at this point with ten days to go to 116 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: discuss talk about and controversy brings instant clicks and all 117 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: that stuff. That's the new era of can I just 118 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: look if if that is how Trevor Lawrence approaches the 119 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: game of football, I'm all in because his results speak 120 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: for him, right, and I appreciate someone in this day 121 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: and age especially, who will tell anybody his truth, and 122 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: his truth is is that his faith and his family 123 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: take a bigger place in his life. And I imagine 124 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: it does for all of you and for most of 125 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: the people who are listening today. But he's willing to 126 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: step up and say it. Look, the guy has achieved, 127 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: and I'm guessing he hasn't changed. I read the article, 128 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: and the article had a versation with his high school 129 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: coach where he recalled the story of Trevor coming in 130 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: as a freshman, saying, I just want to be the 131 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: best that's ever done it. En, I've seen that sort 132 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: of progress through his career. Clemson, give me a break 133 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: in the internet. Just shut up for a while. This 134 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: is why I can't This is why I don't have Twitter, 135 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: because I don't want to read. I just can't get 136 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: caught up in this stuff. This kid, even if he 137 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: did as you said, you would take him in a heartbeat. Well, 138 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: and Ashland's right, one guy's story is not necessarily another 139 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: guy's story. And it's gotten to the point now where 140 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: if you can't say anything. If if he had said, 141 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: football is my entire life, I can't live without it. 142 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: If I don't win the Super Bowl in my first year, 143 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: my wife and throwing myself off a bridge. Somebody would 144 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: have criticized that, So you can't say anything. All he 145 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: did was trying to be honest. His father tried to 146 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: be honest and they got burned for it. I guess 147 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: in a sense, welcome to the NFL because that's what happens, 148 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: and welcome to Twitter because that's what happens. But everything 149 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: was so picked apart in this. I'm with you, guys. 150 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: After reading this, I was more excited about Trevor Lawrence 151 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: coming here because it sounds like he has perspective. It 152 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: sounds like he has a maturity coming into this thing 153 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: that frankly, a lot of young quarterbacks don't have. He 154 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: could have easily gotten away with just saying the cliche 155 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: of a girl, but he has. It sounds like he 156 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: has more to him than that, and I like that. 157 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: You know, and you may have experienced this to George, 158 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: because I know you do a lot of speaking engagements. 159 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: Um I get out into a room, you know, whether 160 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: it's a rotary club or charity gala on a Saturday night, 161 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: and everybody wants to talk football, right, they know you're 162 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: there from the Jaguars and there. That's easy, that's what 163 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: we do. But there's always someone that says, I really know, 164 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: I'm not a Jaguars fan, I'm not a football fan. 165 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't really care about sports. Well that's the person 166 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm drawn to. Tell me something about you then, right, 167 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Because we do this for a living, Trevor does this 168 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,559 Speaker 1: for a living. You encounter someone who has a different background, 169 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: who has something else that lights their fire. What tell 170 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: me about you? What do you like? That? To me 171 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: is refreshing. It's the all football, all the time, and 172 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: it grates on you no matter where they are. You 173 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: just can't take it. So for him, he's showing you 174 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: that he has got a a big picture perspective, which 175 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: you really you appreciate that when you come in and 176 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: pay him because he's going to be able to put 177 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: everything in perspective and up burn out. Just a very 178 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: unique guy. It seems to me when he said that 179 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: he listened to Casey Musgrave's before his pro days, like 180 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: this is a different guy and there's nothing song he's 181 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: like very folksy, like you'd hear in Starbucks. Like it's 182 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: not something at all I would picture listening to before 183 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: pro day. You know, one last thought on this they' 184 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: I'll give you my big thing. Um. I remember a 185 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: year or two into this, um, and you guys know 186 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: Vick Catchman and you met him when he was here. 187 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: He said something to me. I was young, and I 188 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: didn't really get it at the moment, kind of went 189 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: off the top of my head. But he said, people 190 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: who don't care have the greatest advantage in life. And 191 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: I went, what, what's that? And he goes, they don't care. 192 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence doesn't care whether or not you think he 193 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: should be the most football centered person on earth. He 194 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: doesn't care. He shouldn't care. Look what he's achieved by 195 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: not worrying about what others think of what he says 196 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: about his faith or football or his family. He doesn't care. 197 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: He shouldn't care. His fans have been waiting for years 198 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: to get somebody who's different. Who's there. Sounds like they're 199 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: gonna get awesome, all right, here's mine. Um, Look, there's 200 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: gonna be a top notch defensive player at and at 201 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: thirty three. And I don't think the Jaguars should hesitate 202 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: to take them at both spots. If that's the case. 203 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,559 Speaker 1: And I know that there's this desire to just wrap 204 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in weapons. But I'm telling you you cannot 205 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: pass on value, which has been a word we've talked 206 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: about on this show a lot this year. But when 207 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: you have up to five quarterbacks who could go in 208 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: the top twelve picks, you've got two offensive tackles, you've 209 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: got a tight end if that's what you want to 210 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: call him, a big receiver, and three other receivers who 211 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: could go there, it's gonna push some players down the board. 212 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: There's an injury to Caleb Farley right now, apparently he 213 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: checked out clean. This guy's Jalen Ramsay. He's long, he's fast, 214 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: he's tall, he's hyper competitive. What if he slides down 215 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: the board because of concerns? But your doctors have no issue, 216 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: O Bang, I mean, that's value. Christian Barmore is the 217 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: best defensive tackle in the draft, but it's not a 218 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: good draft for defensive tackles. He could slide down the board. 219 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: Zaven Collins could slide to that position from about fifteen. Uh, 220 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: Jason is it o A? The pass rusher from Penn 221 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: State is climbing. People like talked to say they're his 222 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: excitement about this guy because he's got sort of a 223 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: Javan cursed like body, you know, long six ft six, 224 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: and he's an explosive edge rusher who can bend. There's 225 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: a bunch of these guys. You're gonna find yourself in 226 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: a position where there probably be and maybe Trevor Morrig 227 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: slides there. Although all I keep hearing is is that 228 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: this is a guy who's going to go between fifteen 229 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: and twenty because teams aren't going to pass on the 230 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: best safety in the draft at a position that's so 231 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: important at and thirty three. If the best players on 232 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: the border defense take them, explosive running back and tight end, 233 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,439 Speaker 1: score we want to outscore people. Um, I'm with you. 234 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: I don't think they're both defensive picks. I don't think 235 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: you have to narrow it in and that both have 236 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: to be defensive picks because you did a lot of 237 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: defensive work in free agents. I'm not saying they have 238 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: to be. I'm just saying, don't be scared to be 239 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: because so many people think it has to be offense. Well, 240 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: it kind of has to be offense because we haven't 241 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: had much offense around here in a long time. But look, 242 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: at the run defense last year too. You just need 243 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: so many things you can make a case for both sides, 244 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: and both are very legitimate. Yeah, I still continue to 245 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: look at the first six picks more than I do 246 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: the first three. I understand Bryan's take is about and 247 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: thirty three, and they're gonna wind up taking two speed 248 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: guys because they didn't addressed explosiveness as much in free 249 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: agency as I think they eventually will. Um And then 250 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: I think you go tight end, uh, probably offensive tackle 251 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: and defensive tackle somewhere in those first six, and I 252 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: think that's what you'll see the formula. How it comes out, 253 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I wouldn't surprise me if you see 254 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: one defensive guy in that three. It just feels like 255 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna get somebody high up, whose elite level, who 256 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: can score touchdowns. We'll find out. I guess my point 257 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: is that this is year one for Urban and Trepp, 258 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: who are coming off of a one in fifteen season. 259 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: You can't afford to pass on great players, no matter 260 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: where they are, and if a thirty three the best 261 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: player on the board is someone who gives you a 262 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: long term solution, and defense wouldn't pass that up. All right, 263 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: that'll do it for big things time now for Did 264 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: you hear this and you caught up with the guy 265 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: who's been around Jaguars dot com for years, John Tony Pauline. Yeah. 266 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: And he was interesting in the sense that I asked 267 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: him because I have any more questions? Can you ask 268 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: about Trevor? You know, I didn't ask him about, uh, 269 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: you know, all the stuff off the field. I didn't 270 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: ask him about that. But I said, give me something 271 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: that is interesting that we don't already know about Trevor Lawrence, 272 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: something that maybe you haven't heard anywhere, and and he 273 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: kind of laughed. But his response was the Jaguars are 274 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: fortunate they have the number one pick in a year 275 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: where not only is a quarterback there to take, but 276 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: he's legitimately the best player in the draft. And that's 277 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: an important distinction because you've had drafts where St. Baker 278 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: Mayfield or um Jared Goff have gone number one. But 279 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: there were serious questions about if this were a different year, 280 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: would this be the top I taken? If if he 281 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: weren't a quarterback, would he be the top guy taken? 282 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: Well in this draft, I everyth need a quarter I 283 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: need a franchise guy. And they also happened to have 284 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: a guy who is not only the best out of 285 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: this draft, maybe the best inn in five or six years. 286 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: And we've heard before, but it's interesting to step back 287 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: and remember that this is not a normal year. This 288 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: is special. He's the best player in the draft. And 289 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, as I predicted in January, what you're what 290 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: you were going to start to see is people start 291 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: to poke holes in his game that didn't exist. You know, 292 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson played better in two thousand and twenty. Well, 293 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't think Zach Wilson played better. I think Zack 294 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: Wilson is a good quarterback who just played against the 295 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: furor of competition. Now you're hearing Kyle Pitts is the 296 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: best player in the draft because of his you know, 297 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: his workout. I don't think Kyle Pitts is the best 298 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: player in the draft. Kyle Pitts is a very good player. 299 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: He's a great prospect, he's a sensational athlete. But Trevor 300 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: Lawrence is still heading shoulders ahead of ahead of Kyle Pitts, 301 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: ahead of everybody else. It doesn't come closely. There's there's 302 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: really you're gonna have to stretch to manufacture problems in 303 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence's game on and off the field. You know, 304 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: as we spoke about during the Senior Bowl, the guy 305 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: is a great leader. I mean he did not have 306 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: great talent around him this year at Clemson. He had 307 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: basically mediocre receivers. Did have Travis a t n uh 308 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: you know that that has to be pointed out. He 309 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: lost four fifths of his offensive line from two thousand nineteen. 310 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: Yet he led that and even when he missed games 311 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: because of COVID, he led that team uh in through 312 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: the into the semifinals. You look at his off the 313 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: field leadership. I mean, the fact of the matter is 314 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: this a lot of the fact that we had a 315 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty college football season, in my belief, is 316 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: h down to the leadership that Trevor Lawrence showed. Because 317 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: when the conferences, the Big Ten, the Mountain West, the Pact, 318 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: well we're canceling seasons, postponing seasons, Trevor Lawrence, along with 319 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: a few other player but primary Trevor Lawrence step to 320 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: the forefront and said let us play. We want to play. 321 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: He got his face out there and was the public 322 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: figure say we want to get on the football field 323 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: and play. So and and there are other issues with 324 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence where he took a leadership role. So to me, 325 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: my take is when everyone's trying to poke holes in 326 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: his game and say, well, DC Wilson played better in 327 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen, Kyle Pitts is the best player to draft, 328 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: my take is nothing's changed. He was the best player 329 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 1: in the draft before the season began. He's the best 330 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: player in the draft when the season ended. He's the 331 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: best player in the draft two weeks out from the draft. 332 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Is there anything anybody on our panel wants to know 333 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: about Trevor they don't already know? What's the first question 334 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: you're gonna ask him if you get an interview with 335 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 1: him about time? Right? Right? Probably my question to Trevor right, 336 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: I mean, we've been waiting on this for a while. Uh, 337 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: is it everything you hope for him? More? And I'm 338 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: sure he'll say, yeah, well, we don't know yet, but 339 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: we're fired up to be here. I want to know 340 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: if he sees the fit with Jacksonville. Southern boy right, 341 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: played at CLEMPS and again strong in his faith and 342 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: this is a community that appreciates that just look at 343 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: the affinity for Tim Tebow. I want to know if 344 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: he sees Jacksonville and if he saw Jacksonville early on 345 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: as a place where his personality and the things that 346 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: are important to him fit. Yep. I want to ask 347 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: him when that whole Jets Jacks thing was going down, 348 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: how closely were you watching and everyone was saying, you're 349 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: a big city guy, doesn't seem to be all right. 350 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: I think he would be wherever he was and be 351 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: just fine. He's that kind of guy, I think, but 352 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: just you'll figure it out wherever you're selected. He I 353 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: think he's a guy who could figure out how to 354 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: manage it. He transcends this things right, no matter where 355 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: he went, he was going to be fine. And I 356 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: think a lot of it is to do with sports 357 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: illustrated stuff. He Uh, he's gonna walk his own walk, 358 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: it seems, no matter where he is. And I'm telling you, 359 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: with quarterbacks before, the perspective on that is so key 360 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: to them making it and it's it's important alright. Moving on, 361 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: everybody asks and I'll ask, start, would you rather cover? 362 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: And I chose sporting events that are here at this 363 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: time of the year. The NBA Playoffs are about to begin. 364 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: The Kentucky Derby kicks off the Triple Crown, and I've 365 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: spent a little time around horse racing, or the NFL Draft, 366 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: or the Masters for that matter, you know, all the 367 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: sporting events that come in April and early May. Would 368 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: you rather cover any of the other ones or the Draft, 369 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: the NBA play host to me, see m Agrind, the 370 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: best event I've ever covered is when I got a 371 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: chance to cover the the University of Florida's run to 372 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: the final four. And because there's something magical about an 373 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: n C double a tournament run, especially if it's unexpected, 374 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: and at the Gators that you would expect to do anything, 375 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: it was, it was Lin Krueger, pre Billy Donovan, the 376 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: energy around that. I don't think the NBA Playoffs, because 377 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: it's the best of seven would match that. Uh So, 378 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: within the context of this question, I'll say the Masters, 379 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: because when I was at the uh the Time's Union forever, 380 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: I kind of thought I might someday get a chance 381 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: to cover that, and I kind of missed on it, 382 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: And I think that would be cool. I would like 383 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: and I think JP can speak to this. Wants to 384 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: be in the Derby infield. I would necessarily like to 385 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: cover it, but to be to see that once I 386 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: may have missed my window and when I'd really enjoy that. 387 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: But you can always go back, John, But that would 388 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: be cool because I've heard it's just it's just and 389 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: it's funny. I've never been to the Derby. I love 390 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: watching horse racing. I'm not great at betting on horse racing. 391 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: I've never really been around horse racing. It is a 392 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: different environment, just the ownership, steaks and the people behind 393 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: the scenes, and you kind of really have to be 394 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: in the know there to get an idea of what's 395 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: going on. I've never really been around it that much. 396 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to go to that event. I have 397 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: a collection of the jewelip classes. Asher actually brought me 398 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: one back one year from the Derby that I have 399 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: in my kitchen. I don't know why, but I've I've 400 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: got a collection about twenty of these things. There's a 401 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: big box that was delivered just to set up her story. 402 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: A big box, really big box. I'm not sure to 403 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,239 Speaker 1: fit through the door without turning it up on its end. 404 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: And I said to her, what is that? And she said, 405 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: it's my hat. And I said your hat, right, Yes, 406 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Yes, I used t I a 407 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: bank as my post office for a good math bound time. 408 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: So yes, my hat was delivered here. And I will 409 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: say it was a really, really cool event. But everyone 410 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 1: told me, you go, you experience it. It's awesome, but 411 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: you feel like you've done it and you don't need 412 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: to do it again. And I think that would be 413 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 1: the thing of covering it. You do what, you check 414 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: it off your list. You don't feel like you need 415 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: to cover every single year. Here's what I love about 416 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: the draft. Um, it's thirty two teams. You focus on yours, obviously, 417 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: but there's so many stories, so many individual stories. And 418 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: because you're not dealing with horses, right, I mean you 419 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: you're getting the story from them as they go through 420 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: the draft process. I just like the humanity of the 421 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: draft because it really is people putting themselves out there 422 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: saying here's who I am, and now more than ever 423 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: right with the personality inventories and all the community work 424 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: and how they dig into people. Um, people put them 425 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: out put themselves out there. I mean, if you've ever 426 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 1: wear the kid that was you know, waiting to be 427 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: picked to play kickball and we're taking last. You know 428 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: how vulnerable that makes you feel? Me too? Um, I 429 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: kind of like the humanity of people putting themselves out 430 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: and saying where am I going? How many times have 431 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: you have you seen in your career the guy who 432 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: was in the green room and was there the next 433 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: day and then was still there, Taylor, Remember that you 434 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: just felt horrible sitting there with his family. There there 435 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: were there were there were stronger cases of guys who 436 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: are really supposed to be taken high that they're just 437 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: still sitting there day two, right, And Miles Jacks Yah's 438 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: that guy. So it's the drawing of it is what 439 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: I really enjoy. You know, you mentioned the Masters, and 440 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: that's when I left out. I've never been the Masters either, 441 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, covering the very few 442 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: times the TPC here, the Players Championship, like a lot 443 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 1: of covering golf. You're sitting in the media center right here. 444 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: You go out on the course some but you're still 445 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: going back to right or going back to do what 446 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: you do or go back to file report or whatever 447 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: it is inside. So but now you know Augustin National's 448 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: first class all the way around I want to understand, 449 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: So that would be one to go and check off 450 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: the list and go cover one time. Again, I've never 451 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: really covered golf regularly, and it's one of those two John. 452 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: You know this, like those guys that cover golf have 453 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,479 Speaker 1: cover golf for a long long time and they know 454 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: how to get inside tracks to information and people and 455 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: who you talk to and why and at what time, 456 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: and if you're new to that, it's really tough to 457 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: really crack into it. Yeah, cover eleven twelve. I don't 458 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: have many players championships at the paper, and it's a 459 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: different Uh, it is certainly a different sport to cover. 460 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: And at the time I covered it, it was it 461 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: was a little trickier than it is now, is my understanding, 462 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: but it was, uh yeah, it's it's a lot about contacts. Alright, John, 463 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: you're up next. This is a little bit of a 464 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: sarcastic question, but I think there are answers to it. 465 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: What's your most memorable offseason? O t a moment since 466 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: covering the Jaguars, because we may not get that sort 467 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: of moment this year. It's still sort of unknow whether 468 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna be on the field or not. Whether that's 469 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 1: going to be a thing, But there are some. There 470 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: are some, So, Brian, what's your first minute of the 471 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: first O T A every year? Because like, all right, 472 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: we're back to football and then it's like, okay, they're 473 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: running around in shorts, and it's tough to be able 474 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: to tell whether the offensive lineman or any good or 475 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: whether the defensive lineman or you know, more explosive. You 476 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: just can't tell. You can tell whether the quarterback has 477 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: a sharp arm, right, and and who's gotten bigger. The 478 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: first minute though, of the first o t every every 479 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: year it's like we're back, football is back. Awesome him. 480 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: Mine would be one of two things, Um, the rookie 481 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: mini camp day when Blake Bortles was here. They were 482 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: like eight thousand people here for practice, so the line 483 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: was around the stadium and I don't think anybody saw 484 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: that coming, so they had to put people on the 485 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: side of the practice field and watch that. That was 486 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: really really neat. The other might be the paintball trip 487 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: in I'm kidding, of course, the number ten. Um, the 488 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: team bonding didn't really work out that year. Yeah, it 489 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: didn't work out. I'm gonna go offseason moments, I will 490 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: always remember Nick Foles arriving here that day. That was 491 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: when the helicopter. JP did a and Brian did a 492 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: live recap of following the helicopter. And I don't think 493 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: many people in football can put that on their resume 494 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: that they have done that that was an insane day. 495 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: We might not either, But for all that was, by 496 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: the way, for all that was, this is bigger, so 497 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: much bigger. I would go with because I asked the question, um, 498 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: and it speaks a little bit to why this is 499 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: an interesting topic with players not come in, and I 500 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: know a big part of this is with COVID. There 501 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: also seems to be an underpinning of players sort of 502 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: pushing back on the off season in general. But I 503 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: would go two things. JPS memories exactly right, the excitement 504 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: that one of those things can have been the very 505 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: next year, Dante Feller getting hurt on his first one. 506 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: So there has been some memorable moments around here, and 507 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: I think that sort of speaks to both a little 508 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: bit of you know, this year, I have a hard 509 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: time saying that there shouldn't be an off season because 510 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: of how important it is to these guys getting on 511 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: the field, getting on the same page Trevor Lawrence, etcetera. 512 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: But I also kind of get from a player's perspective, 513 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: you know, do we need to be putting ourselves at 514 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: risk for this? Um? I personally think for young players, 515 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: even such as Fowler back then, done correctly, the reward 516 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: out of that is overall worth the risk for young players. 517 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: But you know, I was standing right there with Dan Edwards, 518 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: right in front of Fowler and he just had an 519 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: arm out with contact with the tackle. I mean it 520 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: wasn't he won't even planted. I mean, those things happen. Sure, 521 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: they can happen in any walk of life. I can 522 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: remember Tom McManus tearing his A c L and he 523 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: was just running out to practice with the Buccaneers in Um. 524 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: It wasn't even in a drill. I mean, those just 525 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 1: doesn't just you can't do much about it. So alright, GP, 526 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: you're next, I am next. How excited do you think 527 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: Urban is to finally get to meet with the team 528 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: as virtual as it is. We've been hearing about this 529 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: all offseason. He's excited to get his message out there. 530 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 1: We've heard part of the messaging. But now you can 531 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: have virtual meetings, Ashlyn. I don't know if there's a 532 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: rating scale or anything you can put a number on 533 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: one to ten. What number is Urban? Right now? He's 534 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: a seven, and I say he's some. I was living 535 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: listening to the Michael Urban podcast which Urban Meyer was on. 536 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: It was a very good listen. You guys should tune in. 537 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: But he was taking notes and I think this was 538 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: last Wednesday. He was on the podcast and he was 539 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: taking notes of what he was going to say to 540 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: the team today, and it was interesting to hear his 541 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: input of how long he has worked on getting this 542 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: first team meeting. The messaging crystal clear. But with that said, 543 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: he was like, I would really like it to be 544 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: in person, and instead it's going to be virtual. So 545 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go seven. He's excited, but not exactly what 546 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: he wants, not fulfilled all the way. Yes, exactly right. 547 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: The message is important and the speech is important. But 548 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: every time I've listened or had a chance to talk 549 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: too Urban about that, uh, the overwhelming feeling you get 550 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: is that as important as that speeches, what he wants 551 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: is for these guys to be together, for these guys 552 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: to have the coaches walking down the hallway able to 553 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: grab a guy and say hey, here's what we did. 554 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: I think when he is talking about building culture, which 555 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: he's talked about many many times, I think he's certainly 556 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: talking about more than this one virtual meeting. He wants 557 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: these guys together. So I think seven is exactly right. Ash. 558 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: I don't think you can add anything to that other 559 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: than to say, does anybody has anyone ever told him 560 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: we have a podcast? We should tell him, Yeah, we 561 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: might want to tell him that, just let him know. 562 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: It was very cool because Michael Irvan was just sharing 563 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: stories back and forth. It was like they were just 564 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: having this conversation of the good old days. So it 565 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: was a cool, cool listen, like to get him in here. Um, alright, 566 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: wrap us up, all right? So last night I watched 567 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: the Alex Smith Do coumentary on ESPN. I've never seen 568 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: it before. It came out a couple of years ago, 569 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: but I've never seen it. And in that Michael Urban podcast, 570 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer is very clear of why he wanted to 571 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: bring Alex Smith in here. He said, I want him 572 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: in a Jaguars uniform and things didn't work out, and 573 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: Urban was saying, I didn't realize the extent of what 574 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: Alex Smith went through until I watched this documentary and 575 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: it was incredible. I've never seen anything like it. I 576 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: knew the story, but when you see what his leg 577 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: looked like in this documentary place, it puts things in 578 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: a perspective. So my question is Alex Smith. It's obvious 579 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: he wants to be a starter and go live this 580 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: dream and and that's awesome. I think he should do that. 581 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: Say two to three years, is Alex Smith ever in 582 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: a Jaguars uniform? Jp um, because if the reasoning behind 583 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: it that what we read this week, you know, the 584 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: medical personnel said it's not right. Well he's gonna be 585 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: how old and three years from now eight with a 586 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: leg that's questionable, and now he's thirty six with a 587 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: leg that's questionable. Um. If it's a no now, I 588 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: think it's certainly a no two or three years from now. 589 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: So I think that window, though it might have been 590 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: open in this offseason and might have been a great 591 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: person to have around, if he's in a uniform, I 592 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: don't think he'll be here. Maybe it's another capacity if 593 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: he decides to hang it up or whatever down the road. 594 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't know how that would work, but I don't 595 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: think he'll ever be in a Jaguar uniform. No, I 596 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: don't think so. I think now would be the time 597 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: that you would you'd be able to close that deal. 598 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: You know the age there. Uh and and obviously you 599 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: hope he never has to play because you're bringing in 600 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Now would be the time if you're gonna 601 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: do it, and if you don't feel like you can 602 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: work within the bounds of a contract with his previous injury. 603 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: I mean, the hard part for him was he had 604 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: a contract with the Redskins, and the Redskins new everything 605 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: about it. Um Now a lot of teams are going 606 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: to look at the same medical stuff and say, I'm 607 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: not sure we want to take on the risk of 608 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: this being a problem that we have to deal with. 609 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: No huge financial risk, I totally get that, and a 610 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: huge risk of is he going to be available for 611 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: what we sign him for? Because what you would want 612 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: in a guy like this is if God forbid Trevor 613 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: wasn't available for a certain amount of time. The reason 614 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: you bring in Smith isn't just because a leadership, It's 615 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: because you went him on the field and there would 616 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: be the worry of cannon hold up as it gets. 617 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: You know, it held up with the Skins let or 618 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: the Washington football team last year because it was a 619 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: short period of time. But there was always uncertainty about it. 620 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: You know, do you bring in that risk? Uh. As 621 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: much as it's a heartwarming story, there's still an element 622 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: of the NFL where you have to be realistic, and 623 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: realistically that's a tough ask. And by the way, he 624 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: turns thirty seven on May seven, so here we go, 625 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: happy early birthday. But my answer is still no tough crowd. Alright, 626 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: but that means in three years he's forty, you know 627 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, that's what we're talking about. Fine, 628 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: I guess there as I think was leaning towards Yes, 629 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: I've got telling you after the documentary, I'm rooting for 630 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: the guy. It was awesome. I think we all were 631 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: because we like a story where he fought back everything. 632 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: But it's just the business and it makes sense. I mean, 633 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: it fits well. Also, she's saying two or three years 634 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: down the road, I'm not sure. At that point, I 635 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: don't know that the dynamic is Trevor Lawrence and veteran guy. 636 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: The dynamic becomes Trevor Lawrence an affordable backup rookie guy. 637 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: Does he need the veteran presence in two years? Does 638 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: he need it now? Great question, we'll find out, all right, 639 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: next week's draft week. Who Maybe we'll switch things up 640 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: a little bit, a little mock draft like through the 641 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: first round that will mock this mock Yeah, I mean 642 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: it's every day. There is a new mock draft on 643 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: every stinking of episode. It's unbelievable, and yet people's hunger 644 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: for the event is so intense you can't back away from. 645 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: You can track all those mock drafts on Jaguars dot com. 646 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: John Oser as a mock draft tracker every week. That's me, 647 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: and that's our show.