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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Keetty Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 1>Jettatie and now he Armstrong and Yetty.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she has two major rallies and concerts tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>one in Pittsburgh, the other in Philadelphia, all centered on

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<v Speaker 2>getting out the vote. We're talking about Lady Gaga, Katie Perry,

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<v Speaker 2>Ricky Martin, the star power being used to hopefully energize

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<v Speaker 2>folks for her campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>That's funny how different that plays for different people, because

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<v Speaker 3>Lady Gaga, Ricky Martin and whoever else energizes some people

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<v Speaker 3>for Harris and some people for Trump. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 3>makes me less likely than I would vote for Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 3>not more.

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<v Speaker 4>What an odds is politics? Say a couple of stray

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<v Speaker 4>thoughts that I want to get to a really great

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<v Speaker 4>think piece, but we we'll squeeze in whatever we can.

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<v Speaker 4>This segment pan at the Squirrel, not this segment, no time,

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<v Speaker 4>this hour, I think so yes, yeah, And the significance

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<v Speaker 4>of the murder of Pean out the squirrel.

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<v Speaker 1>Barton Swain said this, why did.

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats nominate an unaccomplished San Francisco progressive with few political skills,

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<v Speaker 4>for the same reason they favored harsh lockdowns during the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 4>the same reason they refused to use force against America's enemies,

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<v Speaker 4>an insane fear of risk nominating a presidential candidate by

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<v Speaker 4>an open primaries risky Democrats did the safe thing a

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<v Speaker 4>reminder that sometimes the safe thing is the dumbest risk

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<v Speaker 4>of all, an insane aversion to risk, which reminds me

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<v Speaker 4>of safetyism of a yieldcaf children, not letting your kids

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<v Speaker 4>play in event games and run around. It is progressive

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<v Speaker 4>America that is insanely risk averse.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, something that's about.

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<v Speaker 3>If she wins, which she might, it's gonna turn out

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<v Speaker 3>to be a good idea. If she loses, people will

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<v Speaker 3>be complaining about this for decades.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably so Kim Strassel.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the gentler yet telling putdowns of this election

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<v Speaker 4>came from Tim Walls, who pronounced, the Republicans are.

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<v Speaker 1>Weird, hilarious.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to know it's weird, taxpayers, you've funded sex

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<v Speaker 4>change surgeries for felons, attempts to regulate cow flatulence, the

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<v Speaker 4>expectation that fewer police will mean less crime. The sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>to nineteen project decriminalizing border crossings, boys competing in girls' sports,

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<v Speaker 4>the word latins sizable majorities of Americans think all of

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<v Speaker 4>this is nut, yet they remain staples of Democratic policy

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<v Speaker 4>and rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird.

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<v Speaker 4>And finally, this highlighted this late in the show the

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<v Speaker 4>other day. Wanted to get to it early. A California

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<v Speaker 4>college with a big poster. Election anxiety is real. Votes

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<v Speaker 4>are in and emotions are running high, grappling with disappoint

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<v Speaker 4>but fear and confusion.

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<v Speaker 1>We have twenty twenty four election.

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<v Speaker 4>Brave spaces open, not safe spaces if you're so reduced

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<v Speaker 4>to tears and trembling by an election, and we hold

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<v Speaker 4>them every author here presidents every four years for the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of your life. But if you're so devastated by

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<v Speaker 4>it you need a brave space, you can go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's part of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the crowd that liked being scared of COVID because

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<v Speaker 3>it gave you, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know what, some feeling of community something, Yeah, likes being.

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<v Speaker 3>Think honest, I was talking about to somebody about this

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<v Speaker 3>last night. I really believe there's a big chunk of

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<v Speaker 3>America that would crawl over broken Glass to vote for

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris. But there's a place in the back of

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<v Speaker 3>their mind they might not even acknowledge themselves. They're kind

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<v Speaker 3>of hoping Trump wins because it'd be so fun to

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<v Speaker 3>be angry and scared for the next four years and

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<v Speaker 3>bond together over that.

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<v Speaker 4>I guarantee you well, right, especially, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>a great point. I haven't heard anybody say that, but

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're right, especially because then you get to

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<v Speaker 4>cosplay I have a brave revolutionary even though there's zero

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<v Speaker 4>risk of anything bad happening.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna tell me that wasn't kind of fun for

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<v Speaker 3>you being the resistance during four years of Trump and

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<v Speaker 3>every day texting your friends about the awful thing Trump

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<v Speaker 3>did and how rough it is to be in America

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<v Speaker 3>right now you love worshiping Adam Schiff, Whereas if Kabla

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<v Speaker 3>wins tomorrow, I'm gonna go huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought Trump was gonna win, and that's pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, emotionally, yeah, I just pray the Senate is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, a Republican anyway. More on that to come

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<v Speaker 4>at some point, but I thought that was funny. Kim

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<v Speaker 4>Cress is from Christopher to Moose. Who is who is

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<v Speaker 4>de Mouse? I think he's a distinguished fellow at the

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<v Speaker 4>Heritage Foundation. But his piece is entitled how Congress unleashed

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<v Speaker 4>the presidency by expanding government power beyond what they could handle.

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<v Speaker 4>The lawmakers set the stage for the unnerving polarization of

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<v Speaker 4>the twenty four election. And he goes into it and

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<v Speaker 4>it's quite entertaining, but a little long. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>this election is nuts but rhetorically unhinged. But so is

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<v Speaker 4>the eighteen hundred contest between Jefferson and Adams, framed by war,

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<v Speaker 4>political violence, and sudden withdrawal of the incumbent, just like

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen sixty eight Trump a convention defying redneck who claimed

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<v Speaker 4>the last election was stolen from him Andrew Jackson. In

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen twenty eight, Kamala Harris was nominated by party insiders

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<v Speaker 4>without consulting the voters, which was everybody before the mid

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<v Speaker 4>twentieth century.

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<v Speaker 1>So why so crazy now?

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<v Speaker 4>And he says, the collapse of common culture, moral confusion

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<v Speaker 4>and ignorance among supposedly educated people, pervasive corruption and dishonesty

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<v Speaker 4>in public life, the infestation of the woke mind virus

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<v Speaker 4>throughout the institutions of education, media, culture, and commerce.

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<v Speaker 1>They all play a role.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm going to quote now I have a more

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<v Speaker 4>specific explanation. Add to the mix, the presidency has become

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<v Speaker 4>much more powerful and less benign than it was designed

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<v Speaker 4>to be. We've talked about this jack through the years,

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<v Speaker 4>but in recent years the president has become lawmaker in chief,

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<v Speaker 4>eclips in Congress. In many areas of arenas of national life,

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<v Speaker 4>he employs his new powers unabashedly for partisan purposes. His

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<v Speaker 4>traditional irreplaceable function as a head of state and national

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<v Speaker 4>leader have fallen by the wayside in many areas, such

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<v Speaker 4>as tax and foreign policy. Today's president is, as ever,

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<v Speaker 4>both uniquely important and politically constrained. But in many other

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<v Speaker 4>areas he makes policy on his own, so that this

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<v Speaker 4>year's election, in determining who will be president for four years,

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<v Speaker 4>will also determine whether to leave the southern border open,

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<v Speaker 4>whether to restructure the power industry and phase out gas

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<v Speaker 4>stoves and internal combustion automobiles, and whether to require schools

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<v Speaker 4>to let boys who feel they are girls compete in girls' sports.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how the hell is the president in charge

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<v Speaker 1>of all of that? I don't know. It is a

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<v Speaker 1>point we've made before, but it's still an act.

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<v Speaker 3>One point, the reason we get so worked up is

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<v Speaker 3>whoever gets chosen makes all these policy decisions, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't before period. I mean, that makes perfect sense.

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<v Speaker 4>And he points out that he's just named a few

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<v Speaker 4>issues and there are many, many more of them in

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<v Speaker 4>the executive toolkit, in the pen and the phone and the.

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<v Speaker 1>Rest of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Little wonder that the presidential campaigns have become billion dollar

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<v Speaker 4>enterprises devoted mainly to partisan in interest group mobilization rather

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<v Speaker 4>than courting the political center. It's telling both sides have

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<v Speaker 4>said democracy is itself at stake for choosing the president

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<v Speaker 4>is now what makes our democracy mainly consists of Sorry

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<v Speaker 4>I misread that, but both sides employee highly precise data

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<v Speaker 4>communications that all to win the presidency. And then the

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<v Speaker 4>final part I want to include because I was you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I knew this but had forgotten it. We've arrived at

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<v Speaker 4>these straits through fifty years of gradual political evolution as

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<v Speaker 4>one incremental step led to another with little appreciation of

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<v Speaker 4>where they are going.

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<v Speaker 1>And he mentions that it.

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<v Speaker 4>Was in the nineteen seventies, friends, not the eighteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 4>the nineteen seventies that Congress created numerous executive branch agencies

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with what he calls newly salient political issues.

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<v Speaker 4>The EPA was commissioned invented in the seventies and now

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<v Speaker 4>has awesome rule which is law making power and the

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<v Speaker 4>power to punish. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, the

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<v Speaker 4>OSHA was born in the seventies, the Energy Department born

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<v Speaker 4>in the seventies, the Education Department in the seventies, and

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<v Speaker 4>many civil rights officers to adjudicate claims of discrimination. And

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<v Speaker 4>these new offices possessed unprecedented power to issue sweeping national rules,

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<v Speaker 4>often costing hundreds of millions of dollars a piece. Presidents

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<v Speaker 4>noticed that they were getting the praise and blame for

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<v Speaker 4>policies on which they weren't in the loop. They began

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<v Speaker 4>to require agencies to submit rules to the White House

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<v Speaker 4>omb the Office of Management and Budget, and they all

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<v Speaker 4>rulemaking proposals would have to undergo a cost benefit analysis

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<v Speaker 4>and then to make a long story slightly less long,

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<v Speaker 4>the presidents realized, look, if these giant, sweeping powers of

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<v Speaker 4>the executive are either bringing me credit or blame, I

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<v Speaker 4>need to control them. And so now they do, and

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<v Speaker 4>so yeah, the presidency is also electing like a third

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<v Speaker 4>all powerful branch of Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, how about all of those big agencies that control

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<v Speaker 3>our lives that didn't even exist not that long ago,

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<v Speaker 3>pre Disco, they didn't even exist.

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<v Speaker 1>You know who?

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<v Speaker 4>What president was was perhaps the second greatest force between giant,

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<v Speaker 4>sprawling federal government after Fdr Nixon. Nixon was very soft

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<v Speaker 4>on big controlling government. It was under his wife that

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of that stuff got started. Carter ratified a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of it, but Nixon was a big government guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So some good stuff this hour, we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to Josh Rogan of the Washington Post, who's waving his

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<v Speaker 3>arms and saying, hello, how compan he's no pain. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 3>paying attention to the Chinese hacking into our telecom stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, this is a really really big deal. And it

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<v Speaker 1>is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Janned the squirrel heard around the world speaking of animal

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<v Speaker 4>world who chewed on nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to come down. There's got to be a

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<v Speaker 1>hook here, got to be a hook.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to talk about Panda eyes later. I almost

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<v Speaker 3>hate too because it's so we got her though. I

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<v Speaker 3>went on a deep dive on it last night, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just way way too.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait h.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll be plumbing the depths of crazy and stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Makes Pizzagate seem like, you know, real uh wow, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so all that on the way, stay with us.

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<v Speaker 5>After the Dodgers won the World Series, Viole broke out

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<v Speaker 5>in Los Angeles and a Nike store got looted. That

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<v Speaker 5>is just disgusting. Yankee fans would never steal sporting goods

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<v Speaker 5>unless it was during the game, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Theah, yeah, exactly, that's a pretty good joke.

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<v Speaker 4>So I in my flippings and clickings over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 4>I became aware that a lot of people were posting

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<v Speaker 4>memes having to do with a squirrel, and I was

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<v Speaker 4>mystified by it and didn't know what to think of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then finally came across a good, solid explanation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you're telling you this this story because I

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<v Speaker 3>kept seeing the headlines.

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<v Speaker 4>About Peanut the squirrel, and I'm going to share some

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<v Speaker 4>of what the Wall Street Journal editorial board said about

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<v Speaker 4>Peanut the squirrel.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, it rose to the level of the Wall Street

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<v Speaker 3>Journal editorial board.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was their lead editorial on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, anyway, New York can't keep the subways safe. The

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<v Speaker 4>mentally ill attack random pedestrians on the street, and the

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<v Speaker 4>Manhattan District Attorney won't prosecute many nonviolent crimes and some violent,

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<v Speaker 4>But how's a pet squirrel and the state's bureaucrats will

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<v Speaker 4>come down on you like you're a menace to society.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Mark Longo says happened to him.

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<v Speaker 4>Several government agents descended on his Upstate home on Wednesday

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<v Speaker 4>in a heavy handed raid. Mister Longo and his wife

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<v Speaker 4>run a nonprofit animal rescue operation. Two of their animal charges,

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<v Speaker 4>a raccoon named Fred and a squirrel named Peanut, were

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<v Speaker 4>targeted by ever vigilant agents from the state Departments of

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<v Speaker 4>Environmental Conservation and Health. Said mister Longo to The New

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<v Speaker 4>York Post quote, they treated me like I was a terrorist.

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<v Speaker 4>They treated this raid as if I was a drug dealer.

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<v Speaker 4>They ransacked my house for five hours. They asked my wife,

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<v Speaker 4>who's of German descent, what her immigration status is. They

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<v Speaker 4>asked if I had cameras in my house. They wouldn't

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<v Speaker 4>allow me to go to the bathroom without a police escort,

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<v Speaker 4>who then checked the back of the toilet to see

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<v Speaker 4>if I was hiding anything there. So mister Longo took

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<v Speaker 4>in Peanut several seven years ago after the little baby

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<v Speaker 4>squirrel's mother was killed. Peanuts becomes something of a star

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<v Speaker 4>on Instagram, Facebook and TikTok. He publishes images of Peanut

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<v Speaker 4>behaving more like a domesticated house pet than a rodent

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<v Speaker 4>in the wild. But he took in a baby squirrel

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<v Speaker 4>and has had it for seven years and turned it

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<v Speaker 4>into an Instagram star.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, in a pet.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, but the squirrel cops raid his house, turn

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<v Speaker 4>it upside down for five hours, would and let him

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<v Speaker 4>go to the bathroom, grilled his wife about our immigration status,

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<v Speaker 4>which is illegal in that situation in New York. Then

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<v Speaker 4>took the two animals and euthanized them. Oh wow, killed

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<v Speaker 4>their pets allegedly to check for rabies after Peanut allegedly

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<v Speaker 4>bit one of the raiding agents on the hand, but

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<v Speaker 4>mister Longo says he saw no evidence of the bite

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<v Speaker 4>and the agents were wearing heavy gloves.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and it wouldn't have bit the agents if they hadn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Come in also, well right, yeah, And then the editorial

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<v Speaker 4>board of one of the most important newspapers in the

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<v Speaker 4>world concludes.

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<v Speaker 1>With too bad for peanut.

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<v Speaker 4>He didn't steal shelves worth of goods from a drug store.

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<v Speaker 4>He'd already be back safely at home. And if you

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<v Speaker 4>spend much time on Twitter, I refuse to call it X.

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<v Speaker 4>You know that James Woods the actor is an active

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<v Speaker 4>participant and writer, and I will not you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>mock celebrities who think their opinions matter because they're celebrities.

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<v Speaker 4>James Woods is a very bright guy who decided to

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<v Speaker 4>maximize his earning it potential through acting clearly. So he's

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<v Speaker 4>the right to have his opinions taken seriously in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's an actual genius, right, isn't that part of

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<v Speaker 1>his whole thing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's crazy, Bruce. He he's got whatever IQ that's

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<v Speaker 3>his deal. But anyway, anyway, so he makes.

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<v Speaker 4>The point on his Twitter feed and it was a

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<v Speaker 4>bit long winded, but about how certain scientific discs goveries,

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<v Speaker 4>though they seemed minor, upended the world of science. And

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<v Speaker 4>he said, this brings me to my point. The oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to make the point that throughout history, the

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<v Speaker 4>most minor anomalies are often windows into a completely different

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<v Speaker 4>understanding of the world. This event where armed officers took

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<v Speaker 4>a pet squirrel from an individual in New York opens

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<v Speaker 4>a Pandora's box of the horrors of leftist tyranny. The

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<v Speaker 4>facts of the incident are disturbing enough. An anonymous instigator

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<v Speaker 4>over one thousand miles away reported a humble man who

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<v Speaker 4>had rescued a wounded squirrel and made him a pet

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<v Speaker 4>for years. The informer's motives in doing so can only

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<v Speaker 4>be guessed, but the owner of the pet had made

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<v Speaker 4>the horrific mistake in today's America of supporting conservative thought online.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't know that, aeah, And that's thought that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's thought that.

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<v Speaker 4>That is why people started reporting him to New York

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<v Speaker 4>for housing a squirrel. A cadre of armed officers got

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<v Speaker 4>a search warrant, rummaged through the man's property for five hours,

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<v Speaker 4>illegally questions his wife about her immigration status, ultimately seizing

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<v Speaker 4>the pet and killing it without giving the owner any

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<v Speaker 4>recourse to save its life. Now, let's take a look

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<v Speaker 4>at the universe in which this macabre, horrid, little leftist

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<v Speaker 4>comedy took place. In a nation overrun by tens of

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<v Speaker 4>millions of illegal aliens, tens of millions folks crushed by

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<v Speaker 4>rampant crime and gang warfare, and during a thirty five

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<v Speaker 4>trillion dollar deficit, sole crushing inflation, a culture of infanticide

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<v Speaker 4>and child mutilation, sexual dysphoria and insanity, and waging illegal

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<v Speaker 4>lawfare against candidates of another party. New York State spent

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<v Speaker 4>a full day killing a squirrel that had been a

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<v Speaker 4>harmless pet cherished by its owners for literally years. The

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<v Speaker 4>event of itself was just an act of petty cruelty,

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<v Speaker 4>but as a window in a larger universe, it's a

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<v Speaker 4>fissure into the mantle of our world, signaling a cataclysmic

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<v Speaker 4>eruption that may well end this nation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about that. God.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to use the example, maybe I'll talk

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<v Speaker 3>about this later of when we were going to get

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<v Speaker 3>into goat milk or goat soap and found out people

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<v Speaker 3>who had been raided in this state of California for

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<v Speaker 3>violating whatever, you know, crime everywhere, people doing all kinds

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<v Speaker 3>of crime everywhere, but a whole bunch of state agencies

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<v Speaker 3>will show up if you've got some illegal goat milk

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<v Speaker 3>or something whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>Good lad word free Josh Rogan on China next, really good,

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<v Speaker 4>don't miss it Strong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 6>This massive and pervasive hacking by China of US telecom

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<v Speaker 6>companies is significant. Your colleague Mark Warner said, it's most

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<v Speaker 6>significant breach he has ever seen in his entire time

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<v Speaker 6>on the committee. Do you know if China has been

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<v Speaker 6>able to access the audio of Americans phone calls?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm not going to comment on what the access,

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<v Speaker 7>but I agree with Mark Warner's statement, it is an egregious, outrageous,

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<v Speaker 7>and dangerous breach of our telecommunication systems across multiple companies.

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<v Speaker 7>I'll leave it at that. I think as time goes on,

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<v Speaker 7>we're going to learn more about it. Some of it

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<v Speaker 7>will be made public. I think there's more that's still

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<v Speaker 7>being gathered. It's a very serious situation that we face,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think one that is quite threatening, maybe not

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<v Speaker 7>directly to the election per se, but certainly to the

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<v Speaker 7>national security of our country moving forward. It's a vulnerability

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<v Speaker 7>that no one imagined or anticipated, but here it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting that he put it in the context of

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<v Speaker 3>the election.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the problem. We're so focused on the election.

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<v Speaker 3>This Giina Chinese hack of AT and T and Verizon,

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<v Speaker 3>and again, as you just heard, there maybe the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>hack that we've had in our nation's history. It's all

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<v Speaker 3>being run through the prism of the election. Did they

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<v Speaker 3>get anything on Trump or Harris that will affect the election?

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<v Speaker 3>And blah blah blah, and otherwise ignoring the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>Brennan asked at one point, were they actually listening to

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<v Speaker 3>our phone calls of American citizens? And Mark Rubia said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to comment on that.

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<v Speaker 1>What what that seems like a big story.

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<v Speaker 4>Josh Rogan wrote a terrific piece in The Washington Post

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<v Speaker 4>about this. Josh is the columnist for the Global Opinion

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<v Speaker 4>section of the Post, author of a terrific book, Chaos

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<v Speaker 4>under Heaven Trump she in the Battle for the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>first Century, among other things, and Josh joins us. Now, Josh,

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<v Speaker 4>this seems like the all time champion great significance to

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<v Speaker 4>little attention story of all time, or close to it.

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<v Speaker 8>Right in any sane world, this would be the most

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<v Speaker 8>important thing on the news right now. But the timing

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<v Speaker 8>of the election is actually kind of unfortunate because it's

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<v Speaker 8>overshadowing what one of my sources said is the biggest

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<v Speaker 8>intelligence breach in US history. Wow, and answer that, Marco

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<v Speaker 8>Ribo wanted to give but couldn't because it's classified information.

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<v Speaker 8>But I'm going to tell you anyway, is that yes,

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<v Speaker 8>they're listening to the audio real time phone calls and

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<v Speaker 8>watching the text messages in real time of hundreds, if

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<v Speaker 8>not thousands of American citizens. That they've been doing it

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<v Speaker 8>for a year, and they're embedded in the telecom systems

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<v Speaker 8>in a way that even our own intelligence community doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>fully understand. They don't know how to get them out,

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<v Speaker 8>they don't know if they can get them out. And

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<v Speaker 8>this is a problem that's just so big and so

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<v Speaker 8>hard to wrap your head around that the US companies

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<v Speaker 8>don't want to talk about it because it's embarrassing. They

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<v Speaker 8>don't have any answers, and if people really knew what

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<v Speaker 8>was going on, they would freak out. And the bottom

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<v Speaker 8>line is that the telecomps don't want to tell anybody

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<v Speaker 8>either because it's their systems that got hacked. But I

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<v Speaker 8>think what you heard from Warner and from Rubio in

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<v Speaker 8>that clip is that this is real, This is big,

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<v Speaker 8>and this is not going away.

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<v Speaker 9>It's only going to get worse.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Chinese have been into our biggest phone companies

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<v Speaker 3>for a year, and they don't know how to get

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<v Speaker 3>them out or if they can get them out.

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<v Speaker 8>It's even worse than that, because they not only did

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<v Speaker 8>they get are they into the phone companies, they got

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<v Speaker 8>through in the system that the phone company is built

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<v Speaker 8>for the FBI to do wire tapping on criminals and

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<v Speaker 8>spies and people talking with criminals.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 9>FBI can only.

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<v Speaker 8>Do that theoretically with a legal warrant, but the Chinese

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<v Speaker 8>intelligence services don't care about that. So they have all

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<v Speaker 8>the access maybe not only to our phones and to

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<v Speaker 8>our text but also to all of the federal investigations

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<v Speaker 8>that are underway and all the counter intelligence operations that

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<v Speaker 8>are underway, which could be completely compromised everywhere around the world.

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<v Speaker 8>And how you deal with that is a whole other problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Boy, to say, this is devastating.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to invent a new word to correctly convey

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<v Speaker 4>the seriousness of this astounding catacly Well, that seems like

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<v Speaker 4>a good word, And Josh, I hate to leap to

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<v Speaker 4>the libertarian you know angle of this immediately, but the

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<v Speaker 4>idea that the government and the phone companies assured us

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<v Speaker 4>that no, these portals into your private communications will only

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<v Speaker 4>be used for the most important of investigations and get

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<v Speaker 4>very serious, very safe rather has has always been you know,

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<v Speaker 4>exposed as a lie.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, There'll be a time for the politics of all

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<v Speaker 8>of this, but I have to agree that it proves

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<v Speaker 8>that when you build back doors for the government into

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<v Speaker 8>encrypted systems, things go wrong because those back doors are vulnerabilities,

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<v Speaker 8>and they get the bad guys as well as the

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<v Speaker 8>good guys can figure out how to get into them.

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<v Speaker 8>And there's another political angle too, which is the PISO

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<v Speaker 8>warrant issue, because if you're anywhere in Donald Trump's orbit,

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<v Speaker 8>you have a thing against PISO warrants because they were

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<v Speaker 8>used to spy on the Trump campaign in twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 8>and that's the same system. It's not the same issue,

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<v Speaker 8>but it's the same system. So there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 8>crazy tangents that will come out of this. But the

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<v Speaker 8>first thing is just for in my opinion, of Americans

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<v Speaker 8>to know that they're vulnerable so that they could do

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<v Speaker 8>something about it, so they can change their practices, and

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<v Speaker 8>to the telecom community, and for the intelligence community to

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<v Speaker 8>tell us what's going on, because that's what they're supposed

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<v Speaker 8>to do.

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<v Speaker 9>When something like this happened.

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<v Speaker 3>What's your worst case scenario for what China could do

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<v Speaker 3>with some of this information that they've gathered.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I mean again, I think the worst case scenario,

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<v Speaker 8>hopefully that we won't see, is that they use it

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<v Speaker 8>to interfere in our politics in a direct way.

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<v Speaker 9>That's kind of what the Russians of the Irritians would do.

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<v Speaker 8>What it seems more likely is that they'll just save

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<v Speaker 8>it all and use it in intelligence ways for blackmail, disinformation,

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<v Speaker 8>deep fakes, you know, collecting on any American they want

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<v Speaker 8>for any time. So it's kind of like there's a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of worst case scenarios, and you know, there's no

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<v Speaker 8>way to sort of plan for all of them. But

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<v Speaker 8>it seems that the primary worst case scenario, which is

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<v Speaker 8>that our telecommunications networks are compromised, that's already here. That's

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<v Speaker 8>a pretty bad case scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>Already, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I completely understand the concept of if they know all

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<v Speaker 4>of our secrets, the worst case scenario is they will

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<v Speaker 4>use them whenever they need to for the next one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the.

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<v Speaker 4>Same time, I'm sorry, I'm just so flabbergasted by the

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<v Speaker 4>notion that they have access to a great deal of

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<v Speaker 4>our counter intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that is just so disastrous.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, So we have you know, not just counter intelligence

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<v Speaker 8>criminal investigations, any wire tap or surveillance that the FBI

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<v Speaker 8>or any other federal law enforcement is doing.

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<v Speaker 9>Those records are kept somewhere. Now this is kind of

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<v Speaker 9>a part we don't know, to be clear, we don't

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<v Speaker 9>know if they have that.

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<v Speaker 8>What we do know is that they, excuse me, collect

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<v Speaker 8>already collected audio on for example, former President Trump, jd Vance,

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<v Speaker 8>Jared Kushner, Eric Trump, members of the Harris campaign, congressional

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<v Speaker 8>staffers for Chuck Schumer, leading US business leaders, leading US

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<v Speaker 8>government officials.

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<v Speaker 9>We don't know their names.

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<v Speaker 8>So those are the people they've already spied on and

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<v Speaker 8>already have got stuff on. And the list keeps growing

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<v Speaker 8>every day the FBI finds out more people, and eventually

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<v Speaker 8>you have to think like, oh, maybe we should tell

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<v Speaker 8>those people, right, And the FBI has been reluctant to

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<v Speaker 8>do that because once they tell these people, these people

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<v Speaker 8>tell other people, and all of a sudden, people like

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<v Speaker 8>me start to figure out what's going on, and then

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<v Speaker 8>I'm like, oh, I got to tell the country, you know.

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<v Speaker 8>But you know, eventually there's this problem where people are

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<v Speaker 8>getting spied on. They need to know it okay. And

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<v Speaker 8>if the government doesn't want to tell us because they're

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<v Speaker 8>embarrassed about it, that's that's its own problem.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, the mar Josh Rogan Global Opinions come lists

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<v Speaker 4>or the Washington Posters online Chack go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>And the more I think about it, it makes such sense.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it is small ball for Shi or whoever

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<v Speaker 3>makes these decisions to try to affect the election.

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<v Speaker 1>He's thinking bigger than that.

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he wants to influence policy on a major level,

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<v Speaker 3>or understand it ahead of time or whatever over whoever

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<v Speaker 3>ends up in the administration, maybe for years to come.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, just you know, nudging the election one where

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<v Speaker 3>or another's probably small compared to their thoughts.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, that's right.

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<v Speaker 8>They'd rather preserve it for let's say, hypothetically, China invades

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<v Speaker 8>Taiwan and then we try to do something about it,

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<v Speaker 8>and then they shut down our telecomsystem. Not to mention

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<v Speaker 8>whatever else they're in, because this is just a piece

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<v Speaker 8>of the puzzle. The Chinese are also into our energy

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<v Speaker 8>systems and our manufacturing and construction systems, and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>our internet service providers. Do you imagine that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 8>big deterrent for us getting involved to try to save Taiwan.

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<v Speaker 8>If they're like, oh, we're just going to shut off

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<v Speaker 8>your internet and your phones and then we're going to

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<v Speaker 8>see what's what you know, So, yeah, they have their

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<v Speaker 8>own interest. So it's also not clear that the Chinese

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<v Speaker 8>have a clear preference between Harris and Trump. The Russians

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<v Speaker 8>want Harris, I'm sorry, the Russians want Trump, the Ranis

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<v Speaker 8>want Harris.

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<v Speaker 9>The Chinese can play it either way. So they're preparing

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<v Speaker 9>for both scenarios.

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<v Speaker 8>That's why they're spying on both camps because they want.

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<v Speaker 9>To be ready either way.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, And it occurs to me that you know, given

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<v Speaker 4>the openness of our democratic system and the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>the legislature weighs in on so many of the important

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<v Speaker 4>policies and topics visvr relationship with China going forward for

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<v Speaker 4>the next twenty years, you know, decoupling the economies, the farm,

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<v Speaker 4>big pharma, you know, tech, military technologies, chips, just all

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>All of that is going.

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<v Speaker 4>To go through the legislative process. And if they can

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<v Speaker 4>bring pressure to bear on one point six million people

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<v Speaker 4>who they have dossiers on having just talked to their

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<v Speaker 4>lover on the cell phone or texting their booky or whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they are going to exert that pressure wherever

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<v Speaker 4>they can. Oh my god, what a what a what

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<v Speaker 4>a situation.

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<v Speaker 9>It's really bad.

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<v Speaker 3>You have got to be I mean, this is the

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<v Speaker 3>reason of your piece. Just shocked that it's not getting

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<v Speaker 3>more attention than it is.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, I think, to be honest, guys, this

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<v Speaker 8>is why people inside the system brought this story to me.

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<v Speaker 8>One of them said, because they're taking a risk by

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<v Speaker 8>you know, telling me a lot of the classified information

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<v Speaker 8>knowing that I'm going to tell the world, because they

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<v Speaker 8>thought it was that important. One of them said to me, listen, Josh,

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<v Speaker 8>this is bigger than the election, and we can't afford

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<v Speaker 8>to let this get caught up in policy and you know,

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<v Speaker 8>again sort of the blame game and how it's going

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<v Speaker 8>to affect privacy and how it's going to you know,

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<v Speaker 8>the debate over Faise and the Russia Gate or whatever.

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<v Speaker 8>My sore said to me, listen, that's not but that's

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<v Speaker 8>not the most important thing right now. The people need

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<v Speaker 8>to know because the response has to have a fire

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<v Speaker 8>lit under it, because the telecom companies and the FBI

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<v Speaker 8>and the intelligence community are bearing this thing now, are

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<v Speaker 8>they burying it because.

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<v Speaker 9>Of the election.

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<v Speaker 8>Know, they're probably bearing it because they don't know what

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<v Speaker 8>they're do. You know, they don't know what to do,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, And it's it's really, it's just such a

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<v Speaker 8>huge problem that you know, people are going to get

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<v Speaker 8>freaked out, but better than they get freaked out by

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<v Speaker 8>the truth and not. And I don't see any reason

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<v Speaker 8>to wait election or no election to tell people that

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<v Speaker 8>they're at risk.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I just have an acid flashback?

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<v Speaker 4>Or did your source say to you, Josh, this is

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<v Speaker 4>bigger than the election.

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<v Speaker 9>That's a direct quote, you know, bigger than the election.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, and good well, you're you're gonna be the Woodward

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<v Speaker 3>and Bernstein of this story. Then we will keep an

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.880
<v Speaker 3>eye on your column and uh, you know, and your

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Twitter feed on this one, because this has got legs.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll let you know when I get another piece of it,

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<v Speaker 8>because this is gonna get worse.

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<v Speaker 9>BEFO is better.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>We have a link to Josh's whole piece at the

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 4>top of hot Links Armstrong and getty dot com. Josh

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:54.320
<v Speaker 4>always enlightening in a pleasure. Thanks a million, good day.

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<v Speaker 4>We are so Jack, just real quick. I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 4>the top of the most red opinion pieces in the

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<v Speaker 4>uh the waffhole right now. Number one, who's going to

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<v Speaker 4>win on election Day? Here are eight columnist predictions. Number two,

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.840
<v Speaker 4>women can send Trump packing? Number three can you guess

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 4>who people will vote for? Try this quiz? Number four?

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<v Speaker 4>If Trump loses Pennsylvania, he'll have no one to blame

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 4>but himself. Fifth, it's about abortion.

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<v Speaker 3>And I a lefty friend who was always so into

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<v Speaker 3>who was president and Trump and then this and that,

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<v Speaker 3>And I could never get them into a conversation about

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<v Speaker 3>China or anything, you know, big, because they always go

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<v Speaker 3>back to the election. That's way a lot of people are.

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<v Speaker 3>And how about how about sources going to Josh Rogan

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<v Speaker 3>because they know he's into this sort of stuff, saying, Okay,

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 3>we got to give you some information. Print a piece

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<v Speaker 3>about this. Nobody's paying attention. It's bigger than the election.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the biggest hack of our systems in US history

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<v Speaker 3>by China, our number one enemy, and it's getting no coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>And Margaret Brennan throws it in at the end, after

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<v Speaker 3>arguing about Trump and what he said about Liz Cheney,

0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 3>she throws around at the very end after like an

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<v Speaker 3>eight minute interview, as an after thoughts, as an after thought.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, wow, wow, well golly, how do we transition?

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<v Speaker 1>We can't.

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<v Speaker 4>we're so fat, soft and happy with our who said what?

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<v Speaker 4>Mean thing about whoever?

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<v Speaker 3>And arguing about that for days and ignoring the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that world history is not going to change. There's always

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<v Speaker 3>a battle for who's in charge of what, and China

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<v Speaker 3>wants to take over and they just had and they

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, had a huge, huge win and get

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<v Speaker 3>your go ahead. If you talk to one thousand people today,

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<v Speaker 3>how many people would know this story.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm picturing Shijinping. They're in Beijing saying, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 4>they discovered our hack. What are the Americans saying? And

0:31:53.280 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 4>his advisers saying, nobody's really noticed. They're not talking about

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<v Speaker 4>it at all. Other than the Armstrong and Getty show.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a lot more on the way. Stay here.

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona police the.

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<v Speaker 3>Rest of the man for allegedly trying not to lose

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<v Speaker 3>his home by keeping his late father's body in a

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<v Speaker 3>backyard freezer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's being charged with making a popsickle. It's a terrible joke.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree. So did you see the second skit or

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<v Speaker 3>the first skit?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. After the monologue on Sordayn Live, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was so good, No Sir missed us.

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<v Speaker 3>So John Mulaney, the comedian, was the host, and so

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<v Speaker 3>he did his stand up routine as the monologue, which

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<v Speaker 3>was very, very funny as always. But anyway, they did

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<v Speaker 3>this skit a game show, which is a common Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>Night live mechanism for things, and it was What's My Name,

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<v Speaker 3>which they've done before, but in this particular version, they

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<v Speaker 3>have John Mulaney playing one of the contestants on the

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<v Speaker 3>game show What's My Name? And he's a liberal who

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<v Speaker 3>is really concerned about the election. It's the most important

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<v Speaker 3>election of his life. Time blah blah, blah blah. And

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<v Speaker 3>so the game show host says, okay, fantastic, here's our

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<v Speaker 3>first guest, what's his name? And out walks and I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't name him. When he walked out, I recognized him,

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<v Speaker 3>but I couldn't name him either. It was Tim Kaine,

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<v Speaker 3>Hillary Clinton's running mate in twenty sixteen, right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And the host of the game show says, you called

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<v Speaker 3>the election in twenty sixteen the most important election in

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<v Speaker 3>US history. What's this guy's name?

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<v Speaker 4>Ah?

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<v Speaker 1>Boy?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, John Baliney asked the guess those shows, like, I, ah,

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<v Speaker 3>is that Tim Walls? He looks kind of like Tim Walls,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not Tim Walls. But anyway, just making the

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<v Speaker 3>whole point obviously that we call this the most important

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<v Speaker 3>thing that's ever happened, and a few years later the guy's.

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<v Speaker 1>Standing right in front of you and you don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know his name. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I thought the other funny joke was it was

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<v Speaker 3>some somebody but who had been wrong, some group of

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<v Speaker 3>women that had been wrong somehow by the evil right wing.

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<v Speaker 3>You tweeted out years ago, say their names, and you

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<v Speaker 3>listed all their names. Can you give one of their names?

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:13.160
<v Speaker 3>You tweeted out all their names, Uh, say their names?

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<v Speaker 3>Name one of them? And he couldn't, of course, because

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:19.879
<v Speaker 3>it's all just a hashtag hashtag activism act.

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<v Speaker 1>But I thought that was pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't name the guy either, and I was pretty

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:27.919
<v Speaker 3>you know, follow politics for a living, and I just like, eh,

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 3>he looks familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he's a senator, right. It was uh, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>that's funny. This is not funny.

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<v Speaker 3>You thought it was bad enough that the Chinese have

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<v Speaker 3>hacked into your cell phone and are listening maybe listening

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<v Speaker 3>to your calls. Actually can listen to individual calls. Marco

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<v Speaker 3>Rubio didn't deny that anyway. Back to this, giant spiders

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<v Speaker 3>the size of human hands are breeding faster than ever

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<v Speaker 3>in England.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no a zoo.

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<v Speaker 3>A couple of years ago, Go released thousands of fen

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<v Speaker 3>raft spiders. I never heard of that particular breed of spider.

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<v Speaker 3>After the species was found to be in decline and

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<v Speaker 3>worried about it going extinct, so they released all these spiders.

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<v Speaker 1>Now a good idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Now has often happens when man intervenes in these sorts

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<v Speaker 3>of things. It's gotten completely out of control. And they

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<v Speaker 3>have at least ten thousand breeding females that have had

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest mating season on record. And there are again,

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<v Speaker 3>spiders the size of your hand breeding so fast they

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<v Speaker 3>can't keep up with them.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't even have particularly big hands, but I'm terrified.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm looking at the picture. That's a big a spider.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you would shriek if you saw that, Like you

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<v Speaker 3>pull back your sheets to get into bed.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah ten thousand breeding females. We got to get them

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<v Speaker 4>the pill. Or of course, hey, ladies, cross your eight legs.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, just because some smooth talking erected maybe Zandia

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean you got to give up the goods.

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<v Speaker 1>Save that for marriage.

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<v Speaker 3>They won't breed in from America Handmaids tale. We all

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<v Speaker 3>know how that's going to work. We need to talk

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<v Speaker 3>a little more about the election in hour three as

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<v Speaker 3>it is tomorrow a little The funniest polling statistic that

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<v Speaker 3>I've come across.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to hear this if you haven't heard it.

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<v Speaker 6>Armstrong and Getty