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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of jet Stream. I'm

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Speaker 1: Jennay Cochley alongside my favorite person. I say it every

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Speaker 1: week and I'm going to continue to say at number

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Speaker 1: ninety three on the field, but number one one in

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Speaker 1: my heart, the Great Marty Lyons. Marty, we have a

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Speaker 1: great show for everybody today. Another jet legend will be

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Speaker 1: joining us shortly. We have some fun festive questions from

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Speaker 1: the fans. But Marty, before we start talking football, I

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Speaker 1: got three things we got to talk about.

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Speaker 2: First.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we got to talk about the alumn reunion because

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Speaker 1: there was a whole lot of alumni at that game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. Gotta talk about those awesome retro uniforms, so sweet.

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Speaker 1: But first we got to talk about Method Man. You

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Speaker 1: got me a picture with him, my friend.

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Speaker 2: But you know what that was probably the most exciting

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Speaker 2: part of about the pregame is Method Man is the

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Speaker 2: type of individual. He was over there taking pictures, getting

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Speaker 2: everybody fired up and wearing the number twenty jersey, and

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Speaker 2: those jerseys were killed. They were unbelievable because normally, you know,

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Speaker 2: on alumni weekend or legend weekend, whichever phrase you want

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Speaker 2: to use, I would always take my jersey off and

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Speaker 2: sign it, and as I'm leaving the field, I give

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Speaker 2: it to somebody because you know, how many jerseys do

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Speaker 2: you need in your closet? But Janey, this is one

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Speaker 2: I kept.

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Speaker 1: I think you better have kept that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Pierce and the Jets and anybody that was

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Speaker 2: involved with putting that together did an excellent job. And

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Speaker 2: it's just a shame that with all that excitement that

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Speaker 2: the Jets came out and they dug themselves a hole.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're down seven to nothing after four plays

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Speaker 2: and two minutes and fourteen seconds, and then you you know,

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Speaker 2: by the end of the first quarter it's twenty one

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Speaker 2: to nothing. That's a deep hole. I don't care how

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Speaker 2: one points down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, But we're not talking about football quite yet,

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Speaker 1: because we still have to talk. I got to talk

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Speaker 1: about the end zone. I love the end zone. I

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Speaker 1: had the Gotham City. That was cool. Right then, we

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Speaker 1: like I said, we got all the legends. How many

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Speaker 1: shaking hands talking to people, hug how cool is that

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Speaker 1: for you? As a former place? It is, you know,

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Speaker 1: all those people there.

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Speaker 2: You know what, today, I'm very fortunate and blessed that

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Speaker 2: Often during the year they'll come back and support a

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Speaker 2: foundation outing, but to see guys that you haven't seen

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Speaker 2: there's new faces, there's old faces, and of course there's

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Speaker 2: missing faces. And you know two people, you know, they

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Speaker 2: came to mind right away, was you know, you know

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Speaker 2: And and of course Bruce Harper wasn't there. So I

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Speaker 2: going to be our guest next week. He's always been

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Speaker 2: one of my favorites. And you know, you see these

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Speaker 2: maybe even longer. And it is a great job. The

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Speaker 2: that's something that shouldn't go unnoticed. At the organization and

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Speaker 2: Woody Johnson hit. They care about the legends and they

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Speaker 2: for a weekend, it was it was good.

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Speaker 1: What does that all include? So everybody, where do you

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Speaker 2: I was actually down in Houston. The Foundation presented a

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Speaker 2: them all in and on Saturday night they have a

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Speaker 2: But again, it's good to see these guys, and it's

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Speaker 1: And you like one of your former lungs is coaching.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you almost have to everybody there.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Well, you know what, I give credit to

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Speaker 2: all the fans that came out and you know, the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, it's been very difficult, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean they won the last couple of weeks. I

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Speaker 1: mean they won three of their last five. Unfortunately they

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Speaker 2: But you know, today it's that time of the year.

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Speaker 2: You know, you got Thanksgiving, you got Christmas. The game

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Speaker 2: against the Falcons, it was raining the stadium. The loyal

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Speaker 2: the weather was cold, and I had the opportunity two

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Speaker 2: where their real fans are. They're way up there, and

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Speaker 2: they're so excited. They're so optimistic too. I don't think

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Speaker 2: anybody's saying, well, you know, the Jets are three and

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Speaker 2: going to come out anymore. There's the loyal Jet fans

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Speaker 2: and they were out there in the parking lot too, So.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, they got to see some great alum you know,

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Speaker 1: great uniforms. And speaking of great alums, we got someone

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Speaker 3: Oh it is wait a minute, I need to go

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Speaker 3: get my Alabama shirt on hold on, hold on Ray.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I tell you what you guys played good

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Speaker 2: ball the whole college season. Man, Now, you guys are

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Speaker 4: That.

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Speaker 2: Texas put a little whipping on you there that last game.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let me introduce our guests as we're

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Speaker 1: talking a little college football, right. Today's are Marty. Today's

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Speaker 1: guest is one of the toughest corners to ever suit

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Speaker 1: up for the Jets, the original lockdown slot corner, a

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Speaker 1: fan favorite, also went to Texas A and m I

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Speaker 1: see wearing his shirt proudly. Ray Mickens Ray, thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so again, Yeah, I'm excited about and him in

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Speaker 5: the playoffs. I think we got Miami at home. They're

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Speaker 5: a very, very good team this year. I watched a

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Speaker 5: lot of college football, you know, not saying I don't

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Speaker 5: watch my Jets, but watch a lot of college football

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Speaker 5: across the country. And we have a good team.

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Speaker 4: But there's some really good teams in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: How about Alabama marready?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, Alabama. Alabama had a tough time

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Speaker 2: by a better team that day a neutral site in Georgia.

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Speaker 2: They beat Georgia early in the season, but they open

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Speaker 2: up against Oklahoma in Norman and that's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: tough one because Oklahoma beat them because Alabama just kept

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Speaker 2: turning the ball over. So I think you got to

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Speaker 2: that Notre Dame, you know, took the position that they did,

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Speaker 2: and you try to understand it, but there's only someone

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Speaker 1: You're not going to be able to understand Notre Dame position. Stop.

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Speaker 2: You tried to, though you could try.

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Speaker 1: You can try all you want, all right, raight weird?

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Speaker 1: Martin and I are just talking about this past weekend,

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Speaker 1: the legends weekends, the uniforms. How cool is it to

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Speaker 1: be there with all of the alumni and all the

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Speaker 4: Man, I can just tell you the love grows every year.

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Speaker 4: Every year that.

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Speaker 5: You get to see your brothers, the love is just bigger.

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Speaker 5: And I think Marty can understand that. It just keeps growing, man,

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Speaker 5: and I get goosebumps just seeing those guys. You know,

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Speaker 5: I'm like, man, I can't believe I played with these guys. Man,

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Speaker 5: they are legends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I was telling Jennay earlier. There's

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Speaker 2: so many players that turned out this week. What a

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Speaker 2: great job of the organization, did you know? You know?

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Speaker 2: And I was talking to haid Me, the president, about

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Speaker 2: the front end of the saon so that none of

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Speaker 2: us can predict what the Jets are going to do.

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Speaker 2: But if number one it would be warmer number two,

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Speaker 2: we would be guaranteed that there'd be more people in

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Speaker 2: We go out there, we play as hard as we

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Speaker 5: One hundred percent, right Marty, I think, man, I just

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Speaker 5: remember back in ninety eight when the stadium was just

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Speaker 5: and the crowd was loud.

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Speaker 4: I loved it.

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Speaker 5: Man, offense couldn't make checks, you know, and and then

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Speaker 5: today it's a little different. I just want to get

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Speaker 5: There's some loyal fans out there.

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Speaker 4: I love them. You see them in the parking lot.

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Speaker 4: They're tailgating.

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Speaker 5: You know, I hate to say it, but crazy. So

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Speaker 5: I just caught a red eye this morning back to Dallas,

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Speaker 1: By by the way, why were you were you at.

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Speaker 4: The chart for my son?

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Speaker 5: My son got drafted by the Chargers. He went to

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Speaker 4: You know, make sure you keep your.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm walking with all the other fans.

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Speaker 5: That, you know, the there's no tailgating. You know, maybe

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: You know, people get there right about halftime, right literally, yeah,

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Speaker 5: It was empty all the way up until the end

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Speaker 5: of bizarre. And actually, obviously it was Philadelphia. Philadelphia travels well.

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Speaker 5: So actually more than fifty percent of the fans were

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Speaker 4: From that experience.

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Speaker 5: It's just my experience, my experience to the Jets experiences

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Speaker 5: back in the nineties when I was playing.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ray, you talk about your experience with the Jets,

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Speaker 2: how has it influenced you away from the field, Because

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Speaker 4: Man, They've influenced me all the way to this day.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm talking about things with my my restaurant team,

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Speaker 5: it's almost ain't good enough. You know, you know, you

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Speaker 4: Almost got it. Ye're almost. You're like, almost isn't good enough.

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Speaker 5: We felt like we were the better team. Actually, that

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Speaker 4: I thought we had that game one at halftime.

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Speaker 2: You know, Ray, you've been around football your whole life.

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Speaker 2: You're watching your son play. What's missing in this Jet

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Speaker 5: The same thing that was missing when we when Parcels

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Speaker 5: And then that was who we were, the team that

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Speaker 4: We found ways to win.

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Speaker 5: It came down to the last two minutes, and we

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Speaker 5: situational football every Thursday and Friday. Situational football. You're down

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Speaker 5: We're up five three, all right, we're trying to run

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Speaker 5: So that situational football turn a one in fifteen into

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Speaker 1: What's that like seeing a former team at one of

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Speaker 5: Just pinching myself, I mean, first of all, I just

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Speaker 4: You know, this is a battleship. This ain't a speedboat.

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Speaker 5: I know that some people want to think it's a speedboat,

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Speaker 5: It's not that quick. And so you know, he's got

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Speaker 5: he's got some work to do. Personally, since I'm not

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Speaker 5: I think that, you know, you do need a quarterback

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Speaker 4: But they managed the game. They were great locker room guys.

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Speaker 5: Benny literally on our off days on Tuesdays taught me

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Speaker 5: He was like a three handicap.

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Speaker 4: That was our started quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Man, it's easy to play for ng.

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Speaker 1: You know, how did he how did your golf game

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Speaker 5: I mean really, it was just about the basics of golf,

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Speaker 4: You know, we can draw up any play we want

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Speaker 5: It doesn't matter if we drop a play for Curtis

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like doing the little things. You can't accomplish

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see, you know, the final four games

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he can be.

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Speaker 5: I think you know what he's got to do is

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 5: accountable for what you do and what you with the

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Speaker 5: tape you put you put out there. I remember we

440
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 5: were one in one in fifteen that year. Remember we

441
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 5: were about we were one and twelve going into the

442
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 5: last few games, and everybody knew the coaches were going

443
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 5: to get fired. We knew co type and the whole

444
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 5: team was, the whole staff was going to get fired.

445
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Speaker 5: And I remember one of the veterans in a line

446
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 5: of young saying, hey, guys, you're putting your resume on

447
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 5: film right now.

448
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 4: You know you're putting your resume on.

449
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 5: Film, So so you better play hard, you better, you

450
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 5: better have a lot of effort, you know, show show

451
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 5: the next incoming coaches what you can do. And so

452
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,640
Speaker 5: I think that Aaron Glenn and his team, he's evaluating

453
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 5: players right now. He's evaluating players, you know, on what

454
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Speaker 5: they're doing in adverse situation rations.

455
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Speaker 1: I have a question to asked, right, Obviously I have

456
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: a lot of questions asked. But I think played eight

457
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 1: years for the Jets, ten years over all the league, correct.

458
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, eleven years overall, but yeah, I was on IR.

459
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, had eleven interceptions in your career. The Jets

460
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: have zero this year. What what is that? As a cornerback,

461
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: as as someone who played depth position, what do you

462
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: think it is? It's so weird, right.

463
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

464
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 5: So I just literally came from a game last night

465
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Speaker 5: where the defense had like four interceptions, like they were

466
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 5: interceptions off the back of guys and tips.

467
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Speaker 2: You know.

468
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's kind of mind boggling.

469
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Speaker 1: Game ended on an interception.

470
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, off of tipped interception.

471
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Speaker 5: So you know, it wasn't like it was a clean

472
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 5: break cut, you know, it was just so yeah, it's

473
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 5: kind of it's kind of mind boggled. How come they

474
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 5: don't have any any turnovers or interceptions? That is at

475
00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 5: this point, I don't know.

476
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 4: I couldn't. I couldn't tell you.

477
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 5: You know, they just got to get on the drugs

478
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 5: machine and hopefully they're still doing that, working on their

479
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 5: dead ship. I should have did more of that myself, though,

480
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 5: be honest with you. I had eleven and this side

481
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 5: I should have had. I should have had a lot.

482
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, Ray, we do this segment from fans,

483
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Speaker 1: questions from fans? Have you join with us?

484
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

485
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: All right? Are you ready? All right, Marty did the

486
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: little drum roll. Time for questions, Thank you? All right.

487
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: This one comes from Isabelle from Jersey. This is kind

488
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: of fun. You know, I'm going to end with that

489
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: one because this one, that one's more fun, all right. Uh,

490
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: this comes from Joe from New York. Who was the

491
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: best trash talker on your team?

492
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 4: Oh? On my team?

493
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: Yep, your team? And then Marty you after, who was

494
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: the best trash talker on your team?

495
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 5: Man?

496
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 4: It was a tie. It's a tie.

497
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 5: It's a toss up between Brian Cox on defense. He

498
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 5: was crazy and then Keishawn Johnson on offense.

499
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Speaker 1: He was a if.

500
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Speaker 5: He was trash talk everybody, even trash talk his own

501
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 5: teammates all the time. He was just somebody that you

502
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 5: had to laugh, man, You smile to be around, and

503
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 5: and you felt honored when he starts talking mess about you.

504
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: Uh.

505
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Speaker 4: But yeah, Brian Cox, he's.

506
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Speaker 5: Another guy man that he's he's just a warrior man.

507
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 5: He sticks up for everybody out there on the field,

508
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 5: and he's sticking for me on many occasions if somebody

509
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 5: pushed me late or something like that. And you just

510
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 5: appreciate guys like that. But yeah, he talked his butt off.

511
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 5: He can talk with the best of them.

512
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 4: I can't see what he said.

513
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that. I think the biggest trash

514
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 2: talker was Tom Newton. He's a special team player, and

515
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 2: he would talk trash every single play, even yell at

516
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: Don Shure when we were playing the Dolphins. He didn't care.

517
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: And sometimes you would just laugh and say, where in

518
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 2: the world did you come up with that one? But

519
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 2: he was he was a good guy to have around.

520
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: He was good in the locker room. But yeah, he

521
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,239
Speaker 2: started talking trash from the time that he got on

522
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: the field until probably time he went to bed.

523
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Speaker 1: He never stopped. All right, all right, this one comes

524
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 1: from Pat from Long Island. I know, Marty, you answered

525
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 1: this one before, but I kind of forgot the answer.

526
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: But welcome to the NFL moment.

527
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL. There go.

528
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

529
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 2: I think it was my rookie season. I was we

530
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: were playing the Cleveland Browns. I was playing defensive end

531
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 2: and I lined up and Ozzie Knewsom, who was a

532
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 2: friend of mine still good friend at the University of Alabama.

533
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: And you know, Ozzie had that little you know, he'd

534
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: get down in the three point stance. The ass was

535
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: so close to the ground you knew he wasn't going

536
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: to block you. And about the time, right before they

537
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: snapped the ball, he looked up at me and he goes, hey, homie,

538
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: how you doing. And just as I answered, the ball

539
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: was snapped and he reached blocked me and they ran

540
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: for another fifteen yards. I go, man, welcome to the NFL.

541
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

542
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 5: I think for me it was my rookie year. Actually

543
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 5: it was the first game of the year. I ended

544
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 5: up starting the first game of the year. I started

545
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 5: as a rookie, my first game, and I remember going

546
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 5: against John Elway, a guy used to play video games with.

547
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 4: Now I'm going up against him now.

548
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 5: And Ed McCaffrey was the receiver that I was assigned to.

549
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn was assigned to Miller. I forgot his first name.

550
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 5: He was the number one receiver. Ed McCaffrey was the

551
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 5: number two receiver. People knew Ed caffrey. He was that tall,

552
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 5: lanky guy that a lawyer to sleep with. His great

553
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 5: route running Loya to sleep Man, sneaky fast and the

554
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 5: first I think one of the first passes of the game,

555
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 5: he ran a fifteen yard comeback and I broke it up, man,

556
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 5: and I was so pumped up, like I've been longing

557
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 5: the NFL. Yeah, baby, and everybody's hit me on the head.

558
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 4: You know.

559
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 5: It was a third and long and I broke it up.

560
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 5: And then later on in that game, I never forget.

561
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 5: I think it was the end of the second quarter.

562
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 5: He ran that same route and then double moved and

563
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 5: took it up. I was like, uh oh oh man,

564
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 5: it was a touchdown. Crowding crazy, and I couldn't believe.

565
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 5: I was just like, man, I got before touchdown. I

566
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 5: only got be from one touchdown in five years in college,

567
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 5: and and so that getting before touchdown was really crushing.

568
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 5: I go over to the sideline and take off my

569
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 5: helmet and guys would hit me on the head.

570
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: Don't worry about the rook man walking to the NFL, man,

571
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

572
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: And I was just like, yeah, I guess you're gonna

573
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 5: get beats sometimes out here.

574
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: All the emotions of that you're all hyped up. Then

575
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: never mind, all right. My last question, this is what

576
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm going to say, is from Isabelle from New Jersey.

577
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: This is actually really fun. One yes, which teammate would

578
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: make the best Santa Loss. Well, I think you, Marty

579
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: would be on. You can say yourself. I did.

580
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: I did play Santa Claus for a lot of years

581
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: for a United Way and got on a helicopter and

582
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: the delivery gifts. So I enjoyed that. We also had been

583
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: Rudolph he played Santa Claus. He didn't. He wasn't a

584
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: good Santa Claus in the kids kind of ran him

585
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: out of the out of the room. But you know,

586
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 2: that's that's a good question. I think that, Uh, you

587
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: can claim it. You got to play the role.

588
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can claim it. What about for you? Ray

589
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: for me?

590
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 5: I think that simple. I hope he's not listening because

591
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 5: he'll he'll be mad at me. But uh, number thirty

592
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 5: three full back back when I played, his name was

593
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 5: Gerald Sowell. It was kind of built like Santa Mega.

594
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 5: He uh and uh he actually back then he was

595
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 5: in his twenties and he already started having gray So

596
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 5: so now if you see him now, he has all

597
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 5: gray hair everything, and he still has the same shape.

598
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 4: And he has a soft voice.

599
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 5: Though to be as big as he is, he has

600
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: a very very soft voice.

601
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 4: He's almost got that Tyson voice.

602
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

603
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, yeah, he could be Saint Nick.

604
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: Are we sure he's not Saint Nick? I mean.

605
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: No, he's not.

606
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: He's tight with his money.

607
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: Oh all right right, it was so much fun having

608
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 1: you on the podcast with us today.

609
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me, guys. I enjoyed it.

610
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we appreciate it. Ray, I just got one last story.

611
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: I was getting in the elevator going upstairs and visited

612
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: some sweets in the first quarter. You know, they had

613
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: all those credentials they gave us, and one of the

614
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: guys in the elevator looks over at me, and he's

615
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: looking at my credential. He goes, excuse me, did you

616
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: have a son that played for the Jets? Oh? You know,

617
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: almost wanted to backhand the bus.

618
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. Man, we're getting up there in age.

619
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 5: And and like I, like I said at the very beginning,

620
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 5: you know, the love only grows stronger every year.

621
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: It grows stronger for the Jets. For me personally, going

622
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 4: back means a lot.

623
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 5: You know, this legends weekend, I missed my daughter's soccer

624
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 5: tournament in Kansas City, and I was just like, no,

625
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 5: I got it. I had to go I had to

626
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 5: come back. You never know when you're gonna see these

627
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 5: guys again.

628
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, and you got and you got a sweet jersey.

629
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 5: Oh man, that jersey is off the chain. I mean yeah,

630
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 5: it's off the chain. I'm a frame it actually put

631
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 5: it up in my game room.

632
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: That's the best uniform they were talking earlier, right, that's

633
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: that's they did a great job.

634
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, Gus and them, they Gus that whole equipment. Man,

635
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 5: they do they do a great job.

636
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: Man.

637
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 4: It was good to see Gus too.

638
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: Oh Who's is there anybody still there that when you play?

639
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

640
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought a lot of them, right, not a lot,

641
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah.

642
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 5: Just uh GUS equipment manager Brian Mulligan. Mully Mulley was

643
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 5: there when I played.

644
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: That's funny. Yeah he was young, young, young. He looked

645
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 4: like he was like a little boy back then. And

646
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: so Mully was there. And who else? There was somebody

647
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 4: else that was there when I was there? Oh yeah,

648
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 4: the security is it? Bobby?

649
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Bob. Bobby was there with Steve Yarnell. I

650
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 5: remember that. I'll never forget that.

651
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: And uh a quick story, Yeah, I saw Bobby Man.

652
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 5: I was at the super Bowl Phoenix doing something in

653
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 5: Phoenix the Super Bowl. I go to Mastro Steakhouse and

654
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 5: I see Bobby in there and I and I literally

655
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 5: said Bobby. He was like, right, Nickers, what's up?

656
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: I said, where's Woody? He has to be doing there somewhere.

657
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 4: He wouldn't be in no, no Mastro steakhouse by himself.

658
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: Right. He started laughing.

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Speaker 4: He starts, yeah, that was Bud.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's awesome. Okay, good luck to r J. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: looks like you're gonna go a long way watching him.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: You know, they they won a big game last night.

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Speaker 5: That was a huge win against the Eagles, which was

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Speaker 5: a great team.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how they won that game. It was.

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Speaker 4: It was kind of a bizarre game last night.

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Speaker 5: But the Chargers that that now, that quarterback that the.

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Speaker 4: Chargers has, he's a tough clicker. He's tough.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's broken hand right.

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Speaker 5: Broken hand, broken offensive line right now. I mean, and

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Speaker 5: he he finds a way to get it done.

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Speaker 4: That's a guy.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, you know, those guys can really rally

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Speaker 5: around him, and and they've been they've been doing that.

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Speaker 4: So they got a good team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could tell by all the interviews at the

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Speaker 2: end of the game. All the defensive players, yes, they interviewed,

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Speaker 2: talked about his toughness. I mean he got sacked what

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Speaker 2: seven times last night?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, see again he goes about to that a quarterback

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Speaker 5: that you can play for.

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Speaker 4: Like, defensive players see what.

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Speaker 5: He do, what he does, and it just gives him

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Speaker 5: energy to go out there and get another stop.

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Speaker 4: Get him the ball back. We got to get him

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Speaker 4: the ball back.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: This dude is pouring it out there for us, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And it's just like Buffalo, you know, when they're down,

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Speaker 2: just get Josh Allen on the ball. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: about the time he's going to move it down the field.

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Speaker 2: He's going to get what you need, whether it's three

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Speaker 2: or he needs to get a touchdown. There there is

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Speaker 2: that belief and I think, you know, Ray, you hit

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Speaker 2: the nail on the head. That's what the Jets have

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Speaker 2: to do. They have to find that quarterback that the

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Speaker 2: whole organization and more importantly, the locker room believes it.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what we're asking for Christmas this year. All right,

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Speaker 1: so much fun having you on right. Appreciate you you,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks great