WEBVTT - Fallout Season 2 Episode 5

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<v Speaker 1>Warning. Today's episode cadate spoilers for Fallout episode five of

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<v Speaker 1>season two. Be warned. Hello, my name is Jason Cantepcio

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Rosey Night and welcome back to ExtraVision of

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics,

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<v Speaker 1>and pop culture. I read you buy our podcast. We're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing you three episodes plus new.

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<v Speaker 2>In this episode, we are headed back into the Wasteland

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<v Speaker 2>and to the vaults, where things are going very very badly.

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<v Speaker 2>But I gotta be honest, things not looking that much

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<v Speaker 2>greater in the Wasteland either, and we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>deep dive into it and talk all about it and

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<v Speaker 2>see where we're headed as we head into the final

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<v Speaker 2>act of Fallout season two.

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<v Speaker 1>Fallout Season two episode five, we open up right after

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<v Speaker 1>the events of the previous episode, where the Death Claw

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<v Speaker 1>has emerged from the front of a building, blocking Lucy

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<v Speaker 1>and the Ghul's forward progress as they search for Hank.

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy's father actually make the three death clause three satanic

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<v Speaker 1>looking dinosaur thingies. The Gul is, of course, much more

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<v Speaker 1>experienced with these creatures than Lucy is, and it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>concerning when a hard ass guy like the Goul suggests, like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get out of here, let's run, because honestly, nothing

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<v Speaker 1>short of a rocket launcher will do personally, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the game, tell me a rocket launcher, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>fat Man nuclear bomb launcher, or it's at the very

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<v Speaker 1>least a modified combat shotgun that's fully automatic.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess, is there a way somebody survives fighting

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<v Speaker 2>a death Claw without like some kind of weapon the

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<v Speaker 2>it's a magic weapon, Like, is that someone who's that

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<v Speaker 2>good that could like kill it with.

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<v Speaker 3>Like a broken ball or whatever you can find around.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's some there's a notable death Claw introduction

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<v Speaker 1>early in Fallout four where you meet one like in

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<v Speaker 1>town right before a meeting with some of the some

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<v Speaker 1>figures from the Minutemen, and you're kind of like on

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<v Speaker 1>the street and there's a lot of cover and so

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<v Speaker 1>you can like plink away at the death Claw and

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<v Speaker 1>kill it. Lost of us early in the game, low level,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it is like a five to ten minute

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<v Speaker 1>fight of you just like shoot run away, shoot runaway,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it'll take a while anyway, dog Meat books books,

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<v Speaker 1>it gets out of there, and eventually the Ghoul and

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy managed to escape when the Ghul creates a distraction

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<v Speaker 1>and they just basically run for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's then that we basically make our way finally

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<v Speaker 2>to the strip, which I love because.

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<v Speaker 3>It just looks so cool and I think they really

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<v Speaker 3>brought it to life.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>I also think we've been talking a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>About like, wehn do you seek New Vegas, and they've

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<v Speaker 2>done a great job of like building in the visuals,

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<v Speaker 2>but we really get these moments here, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>a big moment for Lucy where she's kind of like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>why does my why did my dad come in? Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we obviously have insight that Bob House was planning, but

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<v Speaker 2>we know now through Lucy's eyes that the guld explains

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<v Speaker 2>there was a plan for a special vulte only for management,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is where he believes his wife and daughter are.

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<v Speaker 2>He has found a couple of them in the past

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<v Speaker 2>raided him, but they were empty, and now he thinks

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<v Speaker 2>the right one must be Vegas, but sadly the entrance

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<v Speaker 2>is somewhere beyond those.

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<v Speaker 3>Terrifying death clause. Lucy is still.

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<v Speaker 2>High as fuck, in case you didn't remember, she is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely tweaking and she's still on the like, well.

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<v Speaker 3>I just killed everyone. I killed all those eldest guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I killed the greases, Like, let's do it. And also

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<v Speaker 3>like where's more drugs? How do we get more drugs?

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<v Speaker 2>And the goal is like, Okay, wait a minute, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I made a mistake. I think you need to get clean,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're not for this drug life. He's like, you're

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<v Speaker 2>too addicted. You go to the doctor, get clean. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go get fucked up. He goes to the bar,

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<v Speaker 2>drinks the whiskey, starts to ask some questions. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is very interesting because we see that the Bomban is

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<v Speaker 2>basically like I don't give a shit, Like whoever runs

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<v Speaker 2>New Vegas, it fucking sucks for me. And that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to establish what we learn about the beginnings of

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<v Speaker 2>New Vegas.

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<v Speaker 1>Through a newsreel flashback, we see the reason for in

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<v Speaker 1>the past Cooper's wife Barbes visit to Vegas. At the time,

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<v Speaker 1>it was hosting a summit of all the major US

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<v Speaker 1>corporations Valtik, Robco, etc. Chaired by rob co CEO Robert

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<v Speaker 1>ha House, in order to discuss what to do about

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<v Speaker 1>the Communist threat. This is kind of in the final

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<v Speaker 1>days of the war against the against the Communist Chinese,

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<v Speaker 1>and it seems like the government is kind of floundering,

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<v Speaker 1>and so the corporations are thinking, okay, uh, maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>need to pick up the baton and figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>to do on our own. On the Vegas trip, Coop

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<v Speaker 1>and Barb meet Hank. It's kind of shocking. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>a Voltech case handcuffed to his arm and he's there

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<v Speaker 1>to meet Barb about something. Cooper goes off to a

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<v Speaker 1>payphone and has a very secret meeting with Moldaver, who

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<v Speaker 1>is there. She leaves a vial of some kind of

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<v Speaker 1>drug in the chainshoot of Cooper's payphone, which he is

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<v Speaker 1>to use. I guess to.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell question Mark or do you think he's meant to

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<v Speaker 2>use it to kill Hank, like to drop him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's it's clearly he's meant to drug somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>either Hank or House or somebody with it. Basically, mould

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<v Speaker 1>Average's like listen, House has to die before rob Co

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<v Speaker 1>acquires cold Fusion, which is what Barb and Voltech are

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<v Speaker 1>offering to rob Co, because if they get the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an endless source of power, they will just be too

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<v Speaker 1>powerful of a company. Coop says, okay, I'll get the

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<v Speaker 1>fusion cell. But I'm not a killer, Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna I haven't killed anybody since the war, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to just kill the CEO of a

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<v Speaker 1>major American company for no reason. On the strip, you

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<v Speaker 1>see that it's power and protest. There's protesters there, there

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<v Speaker 1>are rich people swaning around with their champagne. There's the

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<v Speaker 1>congress woman from Glendale is there protesting the steady accretion

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<v Speaker 1>of power to corporate interest. She gets thrown down the stairs.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody cares except Cooper, who basically goes over and is like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry about this. And I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>a quite a biting commentary on on current politics in

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<v Speaker 1>which you know that's your that's your opposition party. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>there is this very weak and meek lady who's getting

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<v Speaker 1>thrown down the steps.

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<v Speaker 3>And is supporting like no one cares about her, Like

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<v Speaker 3>she's also an.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not inspiring. Also, like if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to drum up some opposition to this, maybe it's get

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who can speak about this.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Glendale who we saw talking at the putting.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's asleep, So there's kind of this like she might

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<v Speaker 2>be right, but she doesn't have the fight in her,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And we see that in the hotel there

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<v Speaker 2>is this like huge party. This is you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>we've often imagined. This is not some kind of great

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<v Speaker 2>save the World convention. It is a corporate shindig. Bob

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<v Speaker 2>has to go and speak to some people about bombing

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<v Speaker 2>America probably, and Coop is like, fuck, like, I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>go speak to go find Hank. He then goes to

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<v Speaker 2>see Robert House. But this is very interesting because it

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<v Speaker 2>is a different guy. It is not our Robert House

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<v Speaker 2>that he met in the elevator. And then he says,

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<v Speaker 2>mister House would like to see you. He's grounded at

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<v Speaker 2>the penthouse entrance by a robot. Mister House, the real

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<v Speaker 2>one is still in front of a massive workstation, and

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<v Speaker 2>he knows Cooper's that to kill him. Jay said, the

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<v Speaker 2>fact there was a robot, mister House, were you very

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<v Speaker 2>excited when you saw that?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I feel like it does support you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. I mean, we learn a lot about the various

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<v Speaker 1>doubles that mister House employs in this episode, so good,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's clear that mister House has been, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>doing this for quite a while. In the present we

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<v Speaker 1>catch up again with Snake oil salesman John Daly. Live

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in my neighborhood or at least an igor Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>I see him all the time at the dog park.

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<v Speaker 1>John Daly, he's, you know, approaching Vegas. He's on the

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<v Speaker 1>road to Vegas with a little skip in his step,

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<v Speaker 1>carrying his suitcase of fake medicines or whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And he has to kill a rad roach on the way,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like, you know, that's normal for anybody who's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, flying the wasteland. He goes into town where

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<v Speaker 1>he is apparently like having a hot date with a robot.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, when lots of robot action this week, like

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<v Speaker 2>Vegas really kept the robots going.

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<v Speaker 1>When in the middle of this, he's knocked out cold,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's knocked out cold by Hank Lucy's father, who

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<v Speaker 1>carries him back to the secret Vault Tech underground headquarters,

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<v Speaker 1>where we see him walk by the cryo tubes of

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<v Speaker 1>Barbs and Cooper and Barb's daughter. Yes they are there,

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<v Speaker 1>frozen there.

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<v Speaker 2>Hank's just the insane, insane pitch from Hank care where

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<v Speaker 2>he's basically, oh my god, hey, so u yeah, complete

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<v Speaker 2>brainwashing into mind control how do you feel about that?

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<v Speaker 3>And the state you're that's great?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he has already. Of course, the Snake oil guy

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<v Speaker 1>had been fitted with the neck chip, and Hank turns

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<v Speaker 1>it all the way up. And whether it's the Snake

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<v Speaker 1>Oil salesman's innate resistance to mind control technology or that Hank,

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<v Speaker 1>after blowing up dozens honey brains, has finally perfected technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever the case, Hank turns that dial all the way up.

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<v Speaker 1>Max is it out, and Snake oil salesman is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's got his first mind controlled zombie.

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<v Speaker 3>Incredible. We're going to take a quick break and we'll

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<v Speaker 3>be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>We're back and Norm we then go back to and

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<v Speaker 2>join our group of middle managers, allegedly along with.

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<v Speaker 3>Ronnie and the rest of the group.

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<v Speaker 2>They arrive at a vault tech building and they find, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>the corpses of some of their former co workers. Then

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<v Speaker 2>Mark June appears with shotguns and a couple of friends

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<v Speaker 2>and is like, oh more volt dollars dwellers, and later

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of learned that hey, they run a roach

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<v Speaker 2>farm here, and Norm asks like, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know anything we'd been going on? What's been going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And Mar's like well, I did did meet this girl,

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<v Speaker 2>Lucy did meet your sister?

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<v Speaker 3>And how's that going? What's going on there? And by

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<v Speaker 3>the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucy's dead and Norm's like fixo and Mar's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, it's pretty rough out here, man, just just leave.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, weird, fake middle managers. I'm rooting

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<v Speaker 3>for them. I like this party, and it's he's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of I think it's fun. I think that's like a

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<v Speaker 3>weird like.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's I think it's like, it's good to

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<v Speaker 2>have a plot line. Isn't just people who are really

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<v Speaker 2>good in the apocalypse, because I think like that is

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<v Speaker 2>the cause of the game, is you have to be

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<v Speaker 2>really good to survive. So it's kind of fun to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, well, what would it be like if you

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<v Speaker 2>were the people who were absolutely not meant to survive this?

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<v Speaker 3>That's like enjoying enjoyable to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Lucy goes over to the store and she sees from

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<v Speaker 1>the sign of the window that the price of addict Doll,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the drug in game and in show drug

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<v Speaker 1>that cleanses one of addictions to various drugs, has ballooned

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<v Speaker 1>in recent days from one hundred and twenty five caps

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<v Speaker 1>to over a thousand cows and which you know, mirroring

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<v Speaker 1>our current healthcare system. See instead decides, well, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just rob the store. She finds the back door entrance,

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<v Speaker 1>she goes in. She grabs the addictll She sees a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful power fist, one of my personal favorite weapons from Fallout,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a kind of like a hydraulic fist that

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<v Speaker 1>has like this punching engine on it, so like as

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<v Speaker 1>you punch, the fist goes to June and just like

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<v Speaker 1>one punch Man's people like through the chest.

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<v Speaker 3>Incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Lucy sees it at in the window. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>let me grab that as well. Correct And then she

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<v Speaker 1>turns around and she meets the clerk. Only the clerk

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<v Speaker 1>is wearing clothes that don't fit him and his face

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<v Speaker 1>does not in any way match the painting of the

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<v Speaker 1>owner of the store, which hangs in the store. Lucy

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<v Speaker 1>immediately realizes, based on the chopped up corpse that's in

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<v Speaker 1>a barrel right next to her, that this guy has

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<v Speaker 1>has murdered the store owner and is currently pretending to

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<v Speaker 1>be the store owner. She calls attention to this. He

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<v Speaker 1>pulls guns, so Lucy shoots him and kills him. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a killer.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a stunt called killer Baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Back at the bar, whoa the Ghoul is reminiscing about

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<v Speaker 1>his meeting with Robert House back in the past, and

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<v Speaker 1>we go and see that meeting in the pehouse, where

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<v Speaker 1>we learn, along with Coop, that House has been body

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<v Speaker 1>doubling himself for at least a decade. The guy that

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<v Speaker 1>you see on TV that we saw in episode one

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<v Speaker 1>has been doubling House for like ten years at least.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>House says that did you know that I watched your

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<v Speaker 1>battle in Alaska? Coop's like, there's no way that's possible,

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<v Speaker 1>and He's like, oh, yes, there's a piece of software

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<v Speaker 1>in the TB Power Armor that lets me watch I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>live streams of whatever's happening through the armor. And House

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<v Speaker 1>then goes on to say that he believes that the

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<v Speaker 1>death Claw that Cooper encountered in Alaska is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be important to the future of the world as well

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<v Speaker 1>as to the future of Cooper's wife and family.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, and House basically tells him his philosophy, which, again,

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<v Speaker 2>can we just give some props so the prescient nature

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<v Speaker 2>of Fallout the video game series and it's a painfully

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<v Speaker 2>timely television adaptation. Hooper's House is basically, hey, Coop, I

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<v Speaker 2>buy every technology and every company at just the perfect time.

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<v Speaker 3>This time, it's confusion from your wife.

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<v Speaker 2>I need it. I need to survive forever. I need

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<v Speaker 2>to survive the nuclear war and your wife's gonna start it.

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<v Speaker 2>And basically the end of the world's already coming. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing all of this because my little AI companion

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<v Speaker 2>told me, Hey, this is the day the world's gonna die.

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<v Speaker 3>And guess what, it's Coop's daughter's birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Very interesting, very interesting, especially with all this thing of

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<v Speaker 2>like there's you are the most important thing, like your family.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm very interested to see where this goes. Coop

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<v Speaker 2>also basically is like, look, this is what the rebels think.

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<v Speaker 2>He tries to reason with him, which I love because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's such a Coop mentality, like especially

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<v Speaker 2>old Coop poet post war pre ghoul Coop. He's like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta they sent me it to kill you for

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<v Speaker 2>a real reason. They think you're gonna launch the nukes

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<v Speaker 2>and start a world war, and houses like, look, there's

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<v Speaker 2>another player on the board, and that's the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>we need to focus on here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the person.

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<v Speaker 2>Responsible for the death Claw that you saw in Alaska

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<v Speaker 2>and House here has a very interesting, rare vulnerable moment

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<v Speaker 2>where he's essentially like I thought I was running the game,

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<v Speaker 2>but I now think I'm maybe a player in somebody

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<v Speaker 2>else's more important, more dangerous game. And then of course

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<v Speaker 2>goes on like a Tony Stark esque you know, suit

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<v Speaker 2>of arm around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, he's doing all of this to help everyone. He's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna nukee everyone to help everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna, you know, uh, trap everyone's families in like

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<v Speaker 2>fucking cold fusion storage to help everyone.

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<v Speaker 3>Like sure, my guy, whatever you say.

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<v Speaker 1>This was quite interesting to me because I do wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've been theorizing that maybe the Institute is

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<v Speaker 1>going to show up. I wonder if I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>this clearly is is hinting at another faction being kind

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<v Speaker 1>of lurking in the background, and I do wonder which

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<v Speaker 1>one it's going to be. In another one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Vault Tech buildings back on back in the California area,

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<v Speaker 1>Ronnie and and Norm are going through there. They're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>turning on terminals, turning on communications equipment in a bid

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<v Speaker 1>to try and contact management, Vault Management, Valltech Management and

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<v Speaker 1>basically update them about what's going on and get some help.

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<v Speaker 1>Norm is concerned about this. Norm wants to know more

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<v Speaker 1>about what he learned from Bud Atkins in the vault

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<v Speaker 1>about this future enterprise ventures plan, the breeding program that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people in Volts thirty one, thirty two, and

0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:04.240
<v Speaker 1>thirty three were all mixed up in.

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<v Speaker 2>And we obviously know what FUV could stand for, so

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<v Speaker 2>we know that we have a little bit dramatic irony.

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<v Speaker 1>So he learns that Barb Howard Coop's wife was of

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<v Speaker 1>course she's like a high ranking VP at Voltak and

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<v Speaker 1>she was across stuff like that. He learns this from

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<v Speaker 1>the the lady that he talked to last episode, who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if we ever got her name, who

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<v Speaker 1>was just kind of discombobulated at the fact that, like

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<v Speaker 1>to her, last week was the regular pre war world

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<v Speaker 1>extreme marking the streets a week ago. Yeah, So they

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<v Speaker 1>go to Barb's office, he and this woman to hack

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<v Speaker 1>her terminal and kind of figure out what's going on.

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<v Speaker 1>While they're doing this, Ronnie is spying on them, and

0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:51.080
<v Speaker 1>he listens to Norm talk about everything He learned about

0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Bud Atkins. Down in Buddy Atkins's secret future manager's vault.

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<v Speaker 1>He learns you know that Norm is it really Bud's

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<v Speaker 1>successor that he's lying about this, and he's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this whole thing is a ruse for some other reason,

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<v Speaker 1>which we know is because Norm is looking for his

0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:15.040
<v Speaker 1>sister and wants to know what happened to his dad, Hank.

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<v Speaker 1>Norm is, you know, working on the terminal. He finds

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<v Speaker 1>a database labeled FEV forced Evolutionary Virus, and that's exactly

0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.560
<v Speaker 1>when Ronnie strikes. There's a big fight. Ronnie strangles Norman

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<v Speaker 1>until he passes out.

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<v Speaker 3>O Dunk Dunk Dune. I knew Ronnie was going to

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<v Speaker 3>be trouble in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucy takes the dictal and immediately just pukes. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like it's like really quick, Iahwaska, but she's feeling okay.

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<v Speaker 2>She meets the ghoul back at the hotel, and now

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<v Speaker 2>she's clean and sworn off drugs forever, which I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of love because that's like such a Lucy arc.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, okay, okay, I'll just never do them again.

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<v Speaker 3>Terrible and that's not really artworks, but I love the

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<v Speaker 3>I love the motivation.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The Ghul introduces Lucy to a man with one of

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<v Speaker 2>the mind controlled patches on the back of his neck,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course it is the Snake oil guy, now

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<v Speaker 2>fully mind wiped.

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<v Speaker 3>With a message from Hank. Don't worry, darling, Lucy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in a secure underground facility and I'm completely safe.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll never get to me because guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess what Hank can offer to Coop the one thing

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<v Speaker 2>that would make him betray Lucy. And what I think

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<v Speaker 2>is an incredibly heartbreaking scene that I honestly still was

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<v Speaker 2>not one hundred percent short on what he would do.

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<v Speaker 3>But it turns out that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hank has the ghouls family in the stasis tube and

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<v Speaker 2>it is crazy leverage. So Hank's basically like, look, if

0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.600
<v Speaker 2>you give me my daughter, I will give you your door.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that a good deal? And the Gul agrees. He

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<v Speaker 2>tranks Lucy takes her in and look, I will say,

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<v Speaker 2>does feel really bad about it, like you can tell,

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<v Speaker 2>not happy he betrayed her, like this was not the

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 2>plan that he had wanted to do. But he's kind

0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 2>of thinking about how he should have killed well house obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry babe, and then boom, unexpected, Lucy gets up and

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<v Speaker 2>she's got that fucking sick ass power fist on. She

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<v Speaker 2>punches Coop right out of the window and he's impaled

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<v Speaker 2>onto a broken light pole. She blacks out sadly so

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<v Speaker 2>does not get away, and we end the episode with

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<v Speaker 2>Hank coming to get her.

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<v Speaker 3>What a fun episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Very very fun. Let's take a quick break and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back to.

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<v Speaker 4>Just discussomer other thoughts about what we learned in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're back. Okay, So lots to talk about. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing I want to talk about first though, is this

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<v Speaker 1>idea that Robert House has where you know, everybody from

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<v Speaker 1>the outside looking in the rebels led by moldever the

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 1>other corporate interests, the regular man on the street during

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<v Speaker 1>this pre war time would look at Robert House and

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the guy who's kind of running the country

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<v Speaker 1>right now, like his money power, et cetera. Very interesting

0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to hear Robert House say that the death claw number one,

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<v Speaker 1>it was evidence of someone else, some other power being

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<v Speaker 1>active in this kind of geopolitical power play. And the

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<v Speaker 1>two he doesn't know if he's a pawn of them,

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<v Speaker 1>of that person, or if he's actually an opponent of

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<v Speaker 1>that person. So it left me wondering, like, Okay, who

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<v Speaker 1>is who could that be?

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I was gonna say, who are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>hypothetically on who this could set up?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm guessing for season three?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yes, so let's go through some of the factions

0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>that So if we just go at Fallout New Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>it's certainly here's the factions that are available in the

0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>game New California Republic. We've seen them. They're basically in

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:19.400
<v Speaker 1>tatters right now. It's not Jesus lesions. We saw them.

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.880
<v Speaker 1>They don't have the kind of they didn't exist pre war.

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<v Speaker 1>Very hard to believe. I find it very hard to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that it would be them. I'm going to ignore

0:23:28.600 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the minor factions at this time. There are the chairmen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that there are three kind of like

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.520
<v Speaker 1>mafia esque businessmen families that were just associated with the

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Vegas trip. I don't believe it's them. I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Americas who are like more of the more

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know, like specifically mafia coded families. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it could be yes Man, who is also here's my suspects.

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<v Speaker 1>One is yes Man. Yes, Man is an I an

0:24:03.600 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 1>AI program that has kind of become alive and is

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.439
<v Speaker 1>we kind of meet him in Bob House's penthouse. So

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<v Speaker 1>Bob also talks about how it was the AI that

0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>told him the date in the future, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>puts on that crazy skull cap like the brain wave

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>monitoring thing, and so it left me wondering if the

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 1>AI Bob House that opened the door is not actually

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<v Speaker 1>the Bob House that's in control.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very jovist, it's very ultro, and it's very kind

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.120
<v Speaker 2>of mixing these different ideas.

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:46.359
<v Speaker 3>And also whoms would know more than an.

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 2>AI supported to helps house and then who could decide,

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 2>as we know the Ultron data Central, well, humans are bad.

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<v Speaker 2>This is really bad, you know. I am definitely interested

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 2>because we do have a kind of, like in Cannon,

0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 2>small kind of backstory for the death clause, but it's

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 2>very ambiguous. So I'm interested to see if they are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna kind of bring in something like the Enclave or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that.

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like I'm wondering if that. I remember with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Death clause, there was always that question when I was

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<v Speaker 2>like hanging out with Alex, like did they have anything

0:25:24.280 --> 0:25:26.160
<v Speaker 2>to do with it. Like, we know this show's gonna

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.479
<v Speaker 2>be Cannon, so I love the I think it might

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.639
<v Speaker 2>actually be two separate things. Ironically, I think that you

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:33.919
<v Speaker 2>are right that Bob House is not in control of

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:37.320
<v Speaker 2>Vegas and sort of himself. I also wouldn't be surprised

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.600
<v Speaker 2>if that we are going to meet some of these

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 2>like secondary government factions even in flashbacks, who were maybe

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<v Speaker 2>involved in more of FEV, more of whatever the death

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 2>Claw situation is.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very excited to.

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<v Speaker 2>See how Lucy and the Ghoul reconnect after this, because

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.400
<v Speaker 2>they're always abandoning each other and kind of just like Rat,

0:26:00.440 --> 0:26:02.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, when Lucy didn't give him the stem pack,

0:26:02.920 --> 0:26:04.679
<v Speaker 2>but you know, him trying to betray her and her

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 2>punching him out of a window. I feel like there's

0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna need to be a little bit more rebuilding there

0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:11.080
<v Speaker 2>in the relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, I think what they've done is set up

0:26:14.800 --> 0:26:19.240
<v Speaker 1>very neatly a situation in which now the Ghoul has

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>nothing but incentive to pursue Lucy into the Valtech headquarters

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>with her dad and figure out what's going on. Because

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I think, like, of course, like the rescue of her

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<v Speaker 1>of his family or at least a reunification with them

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>is going to be a big deal for him. That's

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<v Speaker 1>and which leads me to my next question. Does Barb

0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>get taught out?

0:26:39.800 --> 0:26:43.040
<v Speaker 2>I think Bob gets thought out, That's my guess. I

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 2>would also say that I think we need the show

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 2>to give us a lot more Bob in the next

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>couple of episodes.

0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:52.399
<v Speaker 3>So I hope we get Bob flashback.

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 2>I hope we get Bob flash forward because Bob is

0:26:55.240 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 2>also a mom, you know, like, yeah, Cooper is a dad,

0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.040
<v Speaker 2>and we've seen this whole thing of him wanting to

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 2>save the world for his daughter, but we are yet

0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:04.399
<v Speaker 2>to truly find out why Bob is doing that. So

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.919
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited to see that. I do think Bob and

0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 2>the Door have to get thought out at some point.

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>The question is would that make Coop want to be,

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, part of this conspiracy in this system. I

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:19.880
<v Speaker 2>don't believe that's enough, even though this is what he's

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.679
<v Speaker 2>been seeking. Also, we don't know are they clones, are

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 2>they robots? Is it really them? Like is this just

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.679
<v Speaker 2>a power play? You can't really trust Hank, you know.

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think there's also the question of listen. I

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 1>think I heavily suspect that Barb would reject Cooper in

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>his current physical you know, okay state, Like, you know,

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>she's not a monster fucker Jason said, she's grizzled zombie,

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>the zombie, radioactive zombie goal. It's been like walking the

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:52.359
<v Speaker 1>wasteland for you know, one hundred plus years, doing lots

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.680
<v Speaker 1>of unsavory things. And I also think there's a question of,

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, what was Barb's role in the war that

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>killed everybody?

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 2>This is what we need to know, Like, let's have

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:04.400
<v Speaker 2>a Bob episode, please.

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>What is Hank's I'm just still trying to figure out,

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.560
<v Speaker 1>like what Hank's end goal is human too.

0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe what I think happened is and I

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:23.880
<v Speaker 2>think this is a relatable again real world situation where

0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 2>I think Hank was just on a little mission that

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>he was given. But while when he found out about

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:35.919
<v Speaker 2>this technology, this Bob House technology, I think like he

0:28:36.200 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 2>had a thing of like, oh, I can climb the

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 2>ladder this way, like I can be the one who

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 2>is fully in charge if I take control of this technology,

0:28:44.400 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 2>or at least maybe he thinks the other route that's

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>less like you know, all encompassing evil tech ceo vibe,

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 2>but still, you know.

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Not great.

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>He also, I wonder could think that it would make

0:28:57.760 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>him the ultimately great overseer because everyone would just follow

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:03.560
<v Speaker 2>your rules all the time, and all your supplies would

0:29:03.600 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 2>last and there would never be any raids or raiders

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 2>or fights. So I'm interested, But I want to know

0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>what that driving force is because right now in this episode,

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 2>it's giving mad scientists and we need a little bit

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>more like a little bit angry, a little bit more

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 2>of what is driving him and what would make him

0:29:21.840 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 2>give up his daughter who Look, we know he loved Lucy.

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Whatever issues he had, like those two were clearly close.

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 2>He had a great life in there. I want to

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 2>know what drove him to making.

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 3>This next step.

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 2>So I think that's one of the big questions we

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 2>have to tie up before season three, Jason. Anything that

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>you really want to see them kind of dig into

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 2>that's going to make you so excited for season three,

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Like what do you think they need to set up

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 2>here or do you think they just need to keep

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 2>doing what they did with season one, which is just

0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>make a great show.

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I think make a great show. I think that the

0:29:54.040 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 1>balance between kind of adherence to video game plot lines,

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:05.720
<v Speaker 1>video items and objects, factions including I think that they've

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>in the main struck the balance pretty well. I think

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:13.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a show that is that said, I do as

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>we mentioned before, I do kind of think the show

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>is like on the edge of being too many plot lines.

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.520
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's not there yet, but I do

0:30:23.600 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>think it's close. When just hearing you talk about Barb

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.959
<v Speaker 1>and Hank and Yeact and Norm and what's ron is

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 1>like all of these things, I was getting need to intersect.

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 2>At some point when you do recaps like us, you

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 2>really start to work out how many different plot lines

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 2>and characters there are.

0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 3>I will say I think I saw a good comparison.

0:30:44.640 --> 0:30:46.680
<v Speaker 2>I think it was maybe a just in our discorder

0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>in our group chat, but basically like somebody being like,

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 2>it's a bit like Game of Throne season four, Like

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like they skip two seasons and now they have

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>all these characters that you don't know, but by season

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>four of Game of Thrones you know every single different

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 2>you know and where you want to go and who

0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 2>you know. This feels a bit like they've thrown us

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>into the wasteland and it's a little bit faction heavy,

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 2>but not everyone's feeling like they fully know the factions

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 2>well enough or they fully kind of know.

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Where it's going. But I like this episode. I like

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 3>that Hank.

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 2>I think we're definitely going to get a norm Hank

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Lucy team up here. It seems like that has to

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.719
<v Speaker 2>happen at some point, a showdown, a team up, whatever

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>way round.

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting because here is a note I

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>have about again, this is a good episode. I do

0:31:30.480 --> 0:31:33.640
<v Speaker 1>think that there are fun, weird things, particularly around Hank,

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>like I could use, as we just said, more of

0:31:36.360 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Hank's actual motivation behind other than we know that he's

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:44.760
<v Speaker 1>carrying out some sort of fault Tech master plan. We

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 1>know that the FEV and the breeding programs that involved

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>vaults thirty two and thirty three and previously thirty one

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:57.200
<v Speaker 1>or something that he's aware of, and then he's across,

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>but we don't necessarily know what he's doing now.

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I want to know what his personal reason is as well.

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Why does he care?

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>And the thing with the snake oil salesman, he just

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>created this snake oil salesman zombie to basically carry out

0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 1>all his orders and deliver messages outside of the safety

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>of this Voltech fortress protected by three death claws. Why

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>then would he come out to capture his own adexactly?

0:32:26.960 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 3>Couldn't he get his Maybe?

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean also like this could definitely be like a

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 2>casting thing where you know, uh, Kyle, his management was

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:37.959
<v Speaker 2>like he beare fucking show his face at this episode.

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 2>You guys have been logging him out like he was

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:40.600
<v Speaker 2>meant to be one of the leads.

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 3>It could be something like that.

0:32:42.080 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I do agree that the end of him

0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:47.240
<v Speaker 2>showing up, I was like, Okay, I guess it's maybe

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>it's meant to be like a calculated risk to show

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Lucy that she still really means something for him.

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, I feel like he is still emotionally manipultive

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 3>in that way. But yeah, no, I let's get some

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 3>more Hank insight. What does this man want?

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Because generic evil guy, that's fine, but there's a lot

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 2>of those in real life.

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:06.760
<v Speaker 3>We need to know what's driving him.

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you think his meeting with with Barb was about?

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Because he is so it's so interesting to see like

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>young eager Hank, who's just like a lower level middle

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>manager at that particular time, like, oh my god, it's

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>great to see you. I wonder.

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Obviously Barb is in the middle or about to embark

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>on a ambitious and very important pitch of selling this

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 1>cold fusion technology potentially to Robco, and Hank is a

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the vaultic manager, so theoretically I would imagine that he's

0:33:45.520 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>under Barb on the organ. Yes, but what do you

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>think they were talking about?

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:33:51.360 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 2>This is the thing I'm interested in is like, was

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Hank already trying to had he already perceived his way

0:33:56.880 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 2>to become an overseer or in charge or move up

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 2>the ladder, and that's what it was about. Or are

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 2>we gonna find out that maybe him and Bob were

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 2>both having weird second thoughts about the cold fusion and

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 2>this is his way that he thinks he can do

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.479
<v Speaker 2>a better version of it. We don't have to nuke

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 2>the country. We can just combine control our citizens.

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 3>Or something, you know. So I'm really interested to know more.

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:22.800
<v Speaker 2>And I gotta say I'm not somebody who always enjoys

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 2>flashbacks like I think they can be amazing. I think

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 2>you can do an incredible bottle episode, But when shows

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>really heavily on fresh flashbacks, it can kind of take

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.839
<v Speaker 2>me out but I have to say I was very

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 2>interested in the Coop Barb hotel flashbacks, the Vegas flashbacks,

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 2>and I'm really excited to see those. I think that

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 2>if they use those old Vegas flashbacks of like this

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:47.359
<v Speaker 2>the symposium or the you know, the convention or whatever

0:34:47.400 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 2>it was, mixed with what we're learning as we go,

0:34:50.120 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 2>that could be a really nice way to solidify a

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 2>little bit more about how Vaultech, how rob Co, how Coop,

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 2>how Barb, how Hang, how they all ended up so

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:06.360
<v Speaker 2>enmeshed in this kind of awful decision, and also like

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 2>what is the final aim, right, because we know that

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 2>for Hats it's like let's get the kids, let's get

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 2>my kid, let me get my wife, obviously, but like

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 2>for Lucy, like she wants justice for Hank, But what

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 2>does that look like?

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 3>And is there a world where.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Someone's trying to save the world or do you just

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 2>learn to live in the wasteland? Does Lucy want to

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 2>go back to the vaults and tell everyone, Hey, this

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 2>is bullshit, there's a world up there. Like I'm very

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 2>interested in a world where the dystopia is so entrenched,

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:33.759
<v Speaker 2>like what are you fighting for?

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:35.680
<v Speaker 3>So I think they need to get a little bit

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:36.319
<v Speaker 3>more into that.

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I will also say over the break, I fired up

0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Fallout seventy six, a gain oh game I haven't played

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>since it was released. It's one of these games, and

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:54.480
<v Speaker 1>we've seen these, particularly with like big releases lately. I'm

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 1>thinking No Man's Sky. I'm thinking cyber.

0:35:58.480 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Punk seventy seven.

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Cyrus seventy seven, these other like failed Starfield, these other

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of failed launches that get better with the update

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>and get and get massively better. So Fallout was one

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>of these seventy six, And I have to say, if

0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>you're a fan, if you've never played a Fallout game,

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>if you're a fan of the show, that's the one.

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.439
<v Speaker 1>Give Fallout seventy six a try. I think it's only

0:36:25.480 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>twenty bucks now, Like if you or something.

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Like that on PlayStation four.

0:36:30.600 --> 0:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>PlayStation PS five, and Xbox and your your platform a choice.

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>It's basically like a it's the Fallout experience been in

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>this kind of like massively multiplayer online map where you

0:36:44.520 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of log into a server and there's twelve other

0:36:46.239 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>people playing in this large map and you do these

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 1>little missions. You move around, you build a base somewhere

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 1>on this large map that you can come back to,

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you can eventually move it, and it's the kind of

0:36:55.239 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 1>it's a very it's like the Fallout game experience in miniature,

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 1>with trading, with scavenging, with customizing weapons and armor, all

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:09.680
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff, and through that. If you've if you've

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 1>ever been Fallout curious, give it a try. The Gooul

0:37:12.280 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>is in it. He's the first person you meet when

0:37:14.560 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you come out of the vault of the Ghoul now

0:37:17.960 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's and it's pretty fun. Now. If you do

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 1>like it, the game will then try to upsell you

0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>on various like okay, well yeah, there's very There's like

0:37:31.560 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 1>there's a basic there's quality of life things that you

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:39.960
<v Speaker 1>can purchase as a subscription, which I'll just say that

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I haven't done it, but all the reviews I've read

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:46.160
<v Speaker 1>or people like, I hate that, I hate that I

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 1>spent money on this, and I hate that now I

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>hate that. I can't imagine in which I play the

0:37:53.680 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 1>game without it.

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:58.720
<v Speaker 2>There is a there's this company, sorry to Kay Oddson,

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 2>I believe she's an investor, called Fabletics, And I remember

0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 2>on the Internet it was like an internet subscription legging service,

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 2>like you would get tights and they would send them

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.320
<v Speaker 2>to you. But the funny thing was like and fenty

0:38:10.400 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 2>had some issues with this. If you started the subscription,

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:14.799
<v Speaker 2>it was like very hard to end it. So this

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>is like the gaming version of that, where it's like

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 2>you're signing up because then you get addicted. Like do

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<v Speaker 2>you need Kate Hudson to mail you beautiful pants every month.

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<v Speaker 3>For sixty dollars?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>But are you probably gonna use them for your run? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds similarity.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I need to You know what I do.

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<v Speaker 1>There's all these like services, right Rocket Money, different ones

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<v Speaker 1>that like oh, those like will cancel your subscription. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a service to cancel. You pay the service to

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<v Speaker 1>cancel your subscriptions. Anyway, you know what I do. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>my hack whenever I need to just like nuke all

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<v Speaker 1>of my subscriptions and like reset is you do have

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<v Speaker 1>to do a little work, But I just report my

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<v Speaker 1>fucking bank card storm and then I just get a

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<v Speaker 1>new one and then it nukes all of my subscriptions.

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<v Speaker 1>Right like now they're just gonna ask you for like oh,

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<v Speaker 1>like your car no longer works. Of course you have

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<v Speaker 1>to immediately put back like the key ones that you

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<v Speaker 1>use Netflix or your rent or you know, whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to reinstate those. But like all the

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<v Speaker 1>other like weird subscriptions that you fucking forgot about, or

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<v Speaker 1>that you're getting weird charges from whatever. If just be

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<v Speaker 1>ready and know that you have at your disposal the

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear option of just nuking your entire.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, they just put in the Laura in California that

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<v Speaker 2>drop allway you can new your information off the Internet. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting to a point where you've got to have

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<v Speaker 2>the hack. So Jason, I love that chaotic hack. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for sharing that. Thank you, very full out coded,

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<v Speaker 2>very full out coded.

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<v Speaker 1>The next episodes of X ray Vision, we are talking

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<v Speaker 1>about various things that we love, both that we love.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening. X ray

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<v Speaker 1>Vision is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie Knight and

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<v Speaker 1>is a production of iHeart Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 1>Our supervising producer is Abu Zafar.

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<v Speaker 2>Our producers are Common Laurent, Dean Jonathan, and Bay Wag.

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<v Speaker 1>A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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<v Speaker 1>songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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<v Speaker 2>Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and

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<v Speaker 2>Heidi our discord moderator,