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Well, y'all in 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:30.200 the heap of trouble, Spencer Rattler m hm. So if 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:34.359 you just take that r and put it down, would 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.720 that's what the Saints fans, That's what y'all gotta look 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.840 forward to. Uh, and the preseason opener, despite throwing the 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.880 pick six, rookie Tyler Schuck comes off the bench and 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:48.000 out plays Rattler. Uh. If you could believe that, it's 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.359 kind of like getting bit by water moccason or radsnake. 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:53.760 It's just how close are you to Anna venom? I mean, 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:59.239 both gonna hurt, both gonna go and excruciating thing swelling 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:03.720 will be a meeting shortness of breath. That's what you 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.760 get with these two quarterbacks. I don't know why they didn't. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:11.560 I hope Kellen Moore, who's a Super Bowl winning offensive coordinator, 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:12.520 I hope. 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.800 He signed a long, long, long. 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.560 Deal, like six years, because it's gonna be a while 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:22.639 with those two quarterbacks before they win safe quarterback. In 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.200 the first preseason game, Rattler was seven of eleven fifty 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:28.000 three yards, zero touchdown, zero in reception, but he did 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.120 lose a fumble. Tyler shuck fifteen or twenty two one 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.079 sixty five, one touchdown, one pick six. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:41.640 Who oh, job ahead right Listen. While I was watching 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.960 the game to day before the game, before the game started, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:46.720 I threw out a tweet to Saints fans. I have 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:48.640 a lot of Saints fans that follow me on Twitter. 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:50.560 Excuse me that followed me on asks me and the 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:55.720 question was, are you guys optimistic about Spencer Rattler as 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.880 quarterback number one? And all the answers were unanimous and 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:01.800 saying that they don't believe in him, and there were 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.800 a few that said, you know what, I'm optimistic about him. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.120 He can improve in his second year. So based on 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.800 the small sample side of we were able to see 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.200 from Spencer Ratler today and didn't look promising. But again, 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.480 it is a preseason. It is a preseason, maybe a 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:20.760 little rusty first time out against competition outside of yourself, 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:22.960 So I want to give him a little grace. I 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:25.440 want to give him a little grace, Tyler, but. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:26.200 He's not a rookie all. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.280 I know what you mean. I know what you mean. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.800 He started, he started real games last year. I would 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:36.160 expect him to look a little better the second time around, 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:40.440 in a vanilla type game plan than a rookie. Then say, 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.080 Jackson Dark say your door, Sanders say some of these 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:44.560 even shook. 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.680 Okay, if Shuk's gonna struggle, okay, I get that. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:50.160 He's a rookie first time playing in the NFL, not 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.600 a guy that started games in the NFL to play 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:53.080 that that. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.960 Yes, I mean, listen, look, it looked rough, but last 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.040 year watching Spencer Raller, he played bad at times, but 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.040 at times he showed flashes of what he can do. 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.120 What we have to find he has to find that 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:08.880 that that happy medium, that keel of balance of consistency 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.840 where it doesn't drop below the bar. The standard has 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:16.720 to be the standard of consistency. He hadn't found that yet. Obviously, 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.159 I'm not gonna panic. I'm not saying I'm a Saints fan, 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.760 but just for his sake, I think quarterback number one 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.279 is Spencer Raller. I don't see a rookie beating him out. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.839 Obviously it looked good. Tyler, how do you say pronounces 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.880 last name Tyler shuck? Obviously probably going against the threes 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.080 in the four. Once he did get into the game, 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:35.880 you would look a certain way, you would look a 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.960 little better in that manner. But I think Spencer Raaler 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:42.600 is an answer for them, and it's it's it's unfortunate. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.200 But again it's a small sambit size. I wouldn't panic 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.839 right now, being that everything is so vanilla, but the 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.000 fact that it is vanilla, you should look the par 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:52.840 You should look the par with it being your your 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:55.039 your second year sec. 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:59.919 Yeah, I think the thing is what's for me. 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.640 Spencer Ratler style of play will eventually get him cut 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:08.240 and a coach fired. That's what happens when you're not 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:14.480 consistent at that position, because that position gets coaches fired 0:06:14.560 --> 0:06:18.279 quicker than anything, get general managers terminated quicker than anything. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.000 Now they felt comfortable enough. 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.080 They it's like, okay, we're gonna wait till the I 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:24.880 think they got shook in the second round, second or 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:25.400 third round. 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.600 They's like, we like Spencer Rattler, We liking. 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:30.200 Uh. 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.400 He was a highly sought after guy went to the 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:36.520 University of Oklahoma, Uh, you know, and then Kayleb Williams came. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.640 He transferred to goes to the univers of South Carolina. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.000 So he has some arm talent, but he's he's just 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.920 a little inconsistent for my taste. And it's hard to 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.000 win when you don't get consistency out of that position, 0:06:49.440 --> 0:06:50.400 because eventually it. 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.360 Will get him cut and it'll get the coach fired. 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:53.680 Because that we had. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.080 Richard Smith used to tell us all the time, he says, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:58.640 that type of play will get you cut and get 0:06:58.680 --> 0:06:59.240 me fired. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.880 I can't get any better because all I can do. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.839 Is just give you what you should be doing. It's 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:09.440 incumbent upon you. He's kind of, you know, loose with 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.600 the ball is easily knocked out of his hands. 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.080 He turns it over. But this is what the Saints, 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:16.520 he looked. 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.680 What happened was is that when you have quarterbacks like Breeze, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.040 and you have quarterbacks like Manning, and you have quarterbacks 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.200 like Brady, you don't want to waste the guy. So 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.080 you're picking guys in the fourth or fifth round and 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.000 you're letting them sit with no chance of getting you know, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:36.640 not doing anything. And so when those guys, move on, 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:41.480 now you gotta rush. They tried James Jambs tears his knee. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.360 They tried Taysom Hill. But I never thought Taysom Hill 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.880 was a quarterback. He was very good in the role 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:49.920 that he was in as a jack. He'll play a 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.440 little quarterback, He'll a little full back, he could play 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:56.080 some tight end. He's good on special teams. He's a jack, 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.600 do a lot a multitude of things. But I didn't 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.560 think he was a specialist or a great quarterback. So 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:06.280 I never thought that experiment was going to work. I 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.480 think Jamis could have been good, but Jamis towards me, 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.480 and then they kind of moved They kind of moved 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:14.360 on from Jamis. The way I look at I think 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.240 defensively they might be a little you know, they might 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:17.720 be a little better. They're starting to get a little 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:23.920 little older. Honey Badger retired Jordan Cam Jordan. I think 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.120 he's going into what it's fifteen season. He's in that 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:30.080 twenty eleven class with Von Miller, JJ Watt, all those guys. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:35.680 But in that division, you got to get better. Because Tampa, 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:40.160 Tampa's gotten better, I think Atlanta's gotten better, and so 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.959 I just don't believe that the quarterback that the Saints 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:46.679 won't or needs that can get them to where they 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.680 want to be a consistent team. You know, a team 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.679 that wins consistently, that can get to the playoffs and 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.679 maybe win a game or two in the playoffs. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:56.760 I don't believe that quarterback is on their roster. 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.680 I don't think so either. I think heavily. I think 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.320 for the sake of Spencer Raller, I think the fact 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:04.160 that he has Album Kamara to take some of the 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:06.480 pressure off of him. You have Rashi shi Head, you 0:09:06.520 --> 0:09:08.640 have Chris o'lave. I'm not sure who the number three 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.640 will be there obviously, but I think his job will 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.080 be a little easier because of the talent he has 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:17.320 around him. Chris o'lave is a very very good receiver. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.840 Rashichi is a burner. He's a very very good receiver. 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:22.719 Now it's going to be Kellen Moore to put those 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.839 players in positions to be able to to make sure 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:30.240 a Spencer Raller doesn't get him bired. You know, there's 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:31.560 one thing you can do is when you have a 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.080 quarterback as bad as them based on their play, you 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:36.240 have to find a way to hide their weakness. You 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.040 have to find a way to hide their weaknesses, and 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.040 it's easy to do when you have players of that magnitude. 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:43.360 Albn Kamara is still one of the best in NFL 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.000 despite I'm just. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.319 Not gonna le Kamara beat me. I'm gonna make Spencer 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:48.360 Ratler through football. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.440 But listen, that's the thing if you if you're gonna 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:52.720 go into game saying, you know what, I'm gonna make 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.360 Spencer Rally beat me. I like his chances with Chris 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:59.240 Olavey and Rashishi heat I like it. I like it. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:01.640 What was their record last year? 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.680 Oh shit? Oh but hey, you know what the number 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:16.160 three is Brandon Cooks. You know, come on now, I. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.560 Don't think he's He's not the Brandon cook that was 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.680 first in New Orleans, or the Brandon Cooks that was 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:23.360 in New England, or even the Brandon Cooks that was 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.079 in the Rams. I mean think, oh your damn. He's 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.200 been like fourteens in the last four years. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:30.360 He can still run. 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.120 He can still oh you can still run. 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:33.880 You can still do his thing in the slot. 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:34.080 You know. 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.840 He's easy, I hope using the word serviceable, but you 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.960 can put them in a position to make plays right, 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:41.960 that's it. 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.679 I know, what was the record last year the Saints? 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.160 I mean the offensive line. How good is the offensive 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:55.080 line gonna be to be able to protect him? I 0:10:55.080 --> 0:11:00.120 mean they gave up five sacks today. 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:02.000 They were five and twelve last year. 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.640 Joe, that's tough. That's tough. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:10.800 Hey, Look, everybody's running vanilla vanilla offense, vanilla defense, vanilla 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.880 special teams, and nobody showing anything. Nobody's trying to put 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:19.520 anything on tape. That's gonna be extraordinary. Spencer Ratler having played, 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.640 I just to expect it's kind of like a second 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:22.080 year guy. 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.480 A second year guy makes mistakes. 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.760 The coaches are gonna be harder on him because he's 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.200 already gone through this the previous year. Bro, You've already 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.959 and Spencer Radler played in real games. Sometimes, don't your 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:35.560 guys get on the practice squad, They don't get off that, 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:37.720 and then they come back and they have to go through. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.720 The thing again. But Spencer Rattler has been in meaningful 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:41.480 ball games. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.280 He's actually played in the regular season and played in 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:47.000 regular season games, So I would expect him to look 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:49.240 a little sharper than what he did now. He was 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.600 only I mean he only threw seven passes and so 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:55.240 he's probably only in there fourteen to fifteen plays. The 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:59.000 question is long term because that's what that's what we 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:04.640 get down to, because no, Baker Mayfield is Tampa's long 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:09.560 term solution. Atlanta believe Pennick Jr. Is their long term solution. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.040 Bryce Carolina believe Bryce Young is their long term solution. 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.800 The question is now based on what they did. Now, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.520 maybe they believe Shuck is going to be able to 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:21.360 come in and unseat Spencer Rattler and be their long 0:12:21.440 --> 0:12:27.120 term solution. But in order to win at this level, 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:31.000 at that level in today's game, you gotta get a quarterback. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:35.079 Because you know why with Joe, because he's the one 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:36.400 position that you cannot hide. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.280 Yeah yeah, yeah. 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.880 If I got a week corner, I rode I roll coverage. 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.520 If I got a week safety, I'll keep him back, 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.600 put it ass down in the box, I keep him 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.960 out of home. Okay, if I got to if I 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:52.880 got an offensive lineman, I'll slide protection. 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:54.080 I'll chip the back. 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.400 I say, hey, you make sure you chip your way 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:00.280 out so I can find ways to protect a weekiness. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.079 If it's something other than a quarterback, you can't hide 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:05.800 the guy that has the ball every single time. 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:09.360 You're right, But I like I like that you said that. 0:13:09.480 --> 0:13:12.080 For some reason, I'm thinking from an offensive perspective, thinking 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.720 as myself as a receiver and the quality the quality 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.520 of receivers they have, you know, in in New Orleans, 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:22.800 I'm thinking Chris olave, Rashish, he Brandon Cooks, They're so good. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:25.040 I can't remember the tightest name. He's a very good 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.600 service with tight end as well. I can't remember his 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.240 last name. But I'm thinking that they can be put 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.280 in positions to be able to hide the weakness that 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:37.719 Spencer Ratler may have, whatever it may be. That's that's 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.600 that's that's what I'm thinking. That's my thought process, you know. 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:44.120 And as an officer coordinator, whoever the officer coordinator is, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:45.160 I'm not sure if Kelly. 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.079 Kellen Moore cool codinator? 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.760 Oh man, listen, man, listen. I don't want to lose 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:56.400 my job. So what do I need to do. I 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.560 need to use those around me. I need to use 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:03.240 those weapons, put them in advantageous positions because my quarterback 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:04.520 is not as good as i'd like. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.600 Right, Juwan Johnson and Taysom Hill are the tight. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.960 End Jawan Johnson A he nice a young, young, young, 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.400 young young fella. 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:16.120 Yeah, he's more. 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:20.560 He's more of an f more of the age back type. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:25.320 Got you know, got receiving skills, got uh uh, more 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.360 of a move tight end. Tasom Hill is the same thing. 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.160 You can do a lot of different things with Taysom Hill. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.160 You can put him at full back. You can, Hey, 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:34.120 you bring him in and run the to push with him. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.400 You know, you can throw him the football. You can 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.480 do a lot of things with him. And Kelly Moore 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:42.040 has a very creative mind. But you've got to get 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:45.480 consistent play from the quarterback position because it's the one 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.080 position you can't hide. Eventually, I'll figure you out and 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:50.000 I'll make I'll make him beat me. 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:54.040 I'll make him beat me. M hm, and I'll see 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:54.720 if he can do it. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:56.080 Hey, that that's tough. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:56.880 That's tough. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.240 In fact that I asked question in ninety percent of 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.360 the Saints fan were like, Eh, it's going to be 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.560 a long year. We might win four games. Hell, we 0:15:07.600 --> 0:15:10.280 won five last year. We're still having We're still haven't 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.160 addressed the position that is the most important that we 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:17.720 do need, and obviously it took Tyler Shuck and what second. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:21.200 Round I think they took him. It took him in 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:25.200 a second round. No, it might have been forty row. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.120 Yeah, so I'm assuming. I'm not sure what they saw 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.280 on film from him as opposed to what we saw 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.880 on film from twelve. But listen that that conversation is 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.080 like being the dead horse. They saw what they saw. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:38.680 I'm not sure the scouts were and felt he So 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.560 maybe he is, Maybe he is. We'll we'll find out. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:44.240 Yep. 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:50.160 The Dolphins rookie Quinn you were struggled in his preseason debut. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:53.920 He was four sixteen sixty three yards, zero touchdowns, zero interceptions, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:57.520 two sacks to lost fumbles. You were the afternoon afternoon 0:15:58.720 --> 0:16:01.600 did not do anything to the possible position battle between 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.080 himself and Sid Wilson, who went fired for as a 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.600 primary backup O Joe because Wilson was five or nine 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:12.720 for ninety six yards. When we go back and look 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.600 at note Joe, which rookie impressed you the most this weekend? 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:19.440 Shador Sanders. Sanders was fourteen of twenty three one thirty 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.160 eight two touchdowns on the road. Cam Ward five of 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:27.040 eight sixty seven yard Jackson dark twelve of nineteen one 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:31.080 fifty four one touchdown Jalen Mill wrote six or ten 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.720 sixty one yards Tyler Shuck fifteen to twenty two one 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.680 sixty five one touchdown winn exception Cam Miller seventy six 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:40.360 or seven seventy six yards of a touchdown. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.440 I mean, listen, everything we saw from the rookies, you 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:45.040 know this, this uh this past weekend. I was the 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:46.400 one that impressed me the most is the one that 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.560 had the most time, had the most time to be 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.480 on the field, and that was Shador. Obviously he the 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.840 most of what we saw from Cam cam Ward in 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:55.920 such a short amount of time. He looked good. He 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:58.240 was wheeling and dealing, looked very at the quarter of 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.840 that position. And now side of that, everyone was fair. 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.000 Everyone was fair. And in no scenario and no scenario, 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.600 did I would did I did I think that Ken 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:09.879 Ewers would beat Zach Wilson out of his job? I 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:11.760 didn't think that. I know Zach is probably going to 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.480 be quarterback number two, and if things aren't going well 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.600 and and too it gets hurt, I think Zach Wilson'll 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.680 be able to come in and make the place necessary. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.360 Based on what we saw from him at the Jets, 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:24.760 always running for his life with that old line, which 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.040 is the same thing that happened to Aaron Rodgers. I 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.600 think he would be fine. The other quarterbacks, Tyler shuck 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.200 and it was nice. But again, you're going against three 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:37.320 and fours. Is that really a tail tall? My grandma 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:42.000 said a tale, yeah, yeah, yeah, based on what you're 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.040 gonna get. Again, it's so it's such a small sample 0:17:45.119 --> 0:17:48.399 size from everybody and what we're doing. It really doesn't 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:51.880 say much until the bullets are flying for real, When 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:53.640 the buds are flying for real and teams are are 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.560 scheming and the game planning, now that's a whole different 0:17:56.600 --> 0:17:57.040 ball game. 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:05.200 I thought Jackson darkush, Yeah, he pushed the ball down 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:05.639 the field. 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:06.480 Uh. 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:09.359 Jalen Mirroe fat flash potential. You know he has a 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.879 big time arm o Joe, he has incredible legs. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:12.600 Uh. 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:14.280 He just got to get a little better with his 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.640 consistency and touch things that you can work on. 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:18.800 But I agree with you. 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:20.800 I think the thing is that we wanted because but 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.160 all these other guys have gotten major reps. 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.520 You got to realize you do it didn't get major reps. 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:31.320 So now, but the mental reps that he was taking 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:35.040 in the game that was able to help him process 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.879 and do the things necessary in order for him to 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.160 have the type of performance that he had. Now I'm 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:44.560 hoping this week they played, probably at home, he gets 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:48.400 an opportunity to consolidate that. You know, in tennis, when 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.600 you break a serve, they say, let's see, can you 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.840 consolidate it? When you break something? When you know, when 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.920 you hold your own serve, so you consolidated. Let's see 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.640 if he can consolidate that what he did on Friday night. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.040 What another performance on what he can do? You know 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:04.919 when they play Thursday of Friday. 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:08.359 Ash So if he can consolidate that, I think, you know, 0:19:08.520 --> 0:19:10.800 Cleveland can look and says, Okay, I think we have 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.879 a guy that has the right mental makeup because you 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:18.000 have to be incredibly strong minded in order to play 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:18.600 that position on it. 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.199 Funny thinking about it, I'm glad you said that they 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:24.720 play again Thursday. You said, right, they play Saturday, play Saturday. 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.439 Now what happened? What happens? I'm curious to see how 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:33.640 Stefanski and they work the players back in So when 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:36.320 Kenny Pigott is healthy, when Dylan Gaber is the Dylan 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.720 Gabriel is healthy, what do they do then at that point? 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.000 Does Shador go back down to number four when they're 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:43.440 back healthy? How does it work? 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:46.280 Ask yourself what we just talked about. Oh yo, we 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.280 talked about this. When Dylan Gabra was in at any 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.240 point in time in training camp, did he look as 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:55.120 good as your door look Friday night? At any point 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.080 in time, It's a simple yes or a simple note. 0:19:58.160 --> 0:19:59.200 I don't think so long. 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:04.639