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Speaker 1: let's jump right into it. New Orleans. Well, y'all in

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Speaker 1: the heap of trouble, Spencer Rattler m hm. So if

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Speaker 1: that's what the Saints fans, That's what y'all gotta look

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Speaker 1: forward to. Uh, and the preseason opener, despite throwing the

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Speaker 1: pick six, rookie Tyler Schuck comes off the bench and

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Speaker 1: Deal, like six years, because it's gonna be a while

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Speaker 3: Who oh, job ahead right Listen. While I was watching

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Speaker 3: Obviously it looked good. Tyler, how do you say pronounces

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Speaker 1: Spencer Ratler style of play will eventually get him cut

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Speaker 1: They it's like, okay, we're gonna wait till the I

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Speaker 2: They's like, we like Spencer Rattler, We liking.

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Speaker 2: Because that we had.

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Speaker 2: He turns it over. But this is what the Saints,

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Speaker 1: What happened was is that when you have quarterbacks like Breeze,

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Speaker 1: I never thought that experiment was going to work. I

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Speaker 1: But in that division, you got to get better. Because Tampa,

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Speaker 1: I just don't believe that the quarterback that the Saints

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Speaker 2: I don't believe that quarterback is on their roster.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so either. I think heavily. I think

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Speaker 3: it's easy to do when you have players of that magnitude.

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Speaker 3: Albn Kamara is still one of the best in NFL

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Speaker 3: despite I'm just.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna le Kamara beat me. I'm gonna make Spencer

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Speaker 3: But listen, that's the thing if you if you're gonna

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Speaker 3: Spencer Rally beat me. I like his chances with Chris

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Speaker 2: What was their record last year?

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Speaker 3: Oh shit? Oh but hey, you know what the number

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Speaker 3: three is Brandon Cooks. You know, come on now, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think he's He's not the Brandon cook that was

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Speaker 3: He can still run.

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Speaker 2: He can still oh you can still run.

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Speaker 3: You can still do his thing in the slot.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: He's easy, I hope using the word serviceable, but you

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Speaker 1: I know, what was the record last year the Saints?

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Speaker 3: Joe, that's tough. That's tough.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Look, everybody's running vanilla vanilla offense, vanilla defense, vanilla

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Speaker 1: Because you know why with Joe, because he's the one

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Speaker 3: You're right, But I like I like that you said that.

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Speaker 3: For some reason, I'm thinking from an offensive perspective, thinking

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Speaker 3: Oh man, listen, man, listen. I don't want to lose

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Speaker 1: Right, Juwan Johnson and Taysom Hill are the tight.

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Speaker 2: I'll make him beat me. M hm, and I'll see

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Speaker 3: Hey, that that's tough.

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Speaker 3: In fact that I asked question in ninety percent of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm assuming. I'm not sure what they saw

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Speaker 3: maybe he is, Maybe he is. We'll we'll find out.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins rookie Quinn you were struggled in his preseason debut.

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Speaker 3: Everyone was fair. And in no scenario and no scenario,

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Speaker 1: I thought Jackson darkush, Yeah, he pushed the ball down

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Speaker 1: Jalen Mirroe fat flash potential. You know he has a

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Speaker 3: Funny thinking about it, I'm glad you said that they

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself what we just talked about. Oh yo, we

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Speaker 3: I don't think so long.

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Speaker 1: NFL insiders said Shader Sanders still stands behind Dylan Gabriel

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Speaker 1: of the end zone to wide receiver greg Lebardon in

436
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Speaker 1: the preseason opener and is floated down sideline to receiver

437
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: Luke Floria later approved. Until we see Sanders get practice

438
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 1: reps with the number one offense, we can't believe the

439
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: Browns view him as having much of a shot to

440
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Speaker 1: be the number two when.

441
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:13,959
Speaker 2: The season begins.

442
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 1: I agree with what they're saying, but that's my point

443
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: is Okay, you said, have we seen enough?

444
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: Have you seen enough of Dylan?

445
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,959
Speaker 1: What have you seen from Dylan Gabriel to make you

446
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 1: think he can be number two?

447
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 3: Did you hear? Did you excuse me who wrote that?

448
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 2: The Browns athletic and.

449
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 3: The Browns Athletic insider? Right, so you see shad Or

450
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 3: do what he does three quarters of football?

451
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 2: Yes?

452
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 3: Three, I think maybe maybe played well into the fourth quarter? Right, Yes,

453
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 3: in a live game. You saw him play the way

454
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 3: he played, and still question if you can do the

455
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 3: same thing when he has an action starters at his disposal.

456
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Speaker 3: I'm confused.

457
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: My thing is, he says no reasonable person thinks Sanders

458
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: will be fully ready to lead a team and consistently

459
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: attack a complicated NFL defense three weeks from now? What

460
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 1: about Dylan Gabriel? Has he shown you enough to make

461
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: them believe that three weeks from now he can lead

462
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: this team against a complicated defense? I digress even further.

463
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: Has Kenny Pickett ever shown you that he can lead

464
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Speaker 1: a team against a complicated defense? Because all I know

465
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Speaker 1: is that what I keep hearing is what you're telling

466
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Speaker 1: me what he can't do. Like my coach just said,

467
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: Collein withday will put it. Find something that.

468
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 2: He can do.

469
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Speaker 1: See you keep telling me what you do or can't do. Well,

470
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: your job as a coach is to put players in

471
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Speaker 1: position and find something that they can do.

472
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Speaker 3: Where's the cant coming from? When we just saw him

473
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Speaker 3: do it. I know it's a small sambo size, it's

474
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Speaker 3: three quarters of football. But everything you said he can't do,

475
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 3: he just did. Matter of fact, he just did. When

476
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: we already saw him do at Jackson State, he just did.

477
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 3: When we saw him do at Colorado, we just did.

478
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: Even though it's a small sambaside, Uncle, I played the

479
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: game for a very long time. I played the game

480
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 3: for a very long time. I'm a receiver. I know

481
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: what it's supposed to look like. I know what it

482
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: looks like when there's a quarterback that's playing in a

483
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 3: game and he's confident, he's polished his pocket, presence, his mannerisms.

484
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Speaker 3: I know what it should look like. We've seen Kenny

485
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Speaker 3: Pickett with the Steelers. If he was the answer for Cleveland,

486
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: he would have been the answer in Pittsburgh. No disrespect him.

487
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Speaker 2: What was what's the question? You asking?

488
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 1: What? Because if Kenny Pickett is the answer, If Kenny

489
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Speaker 1: Pickett is the answer, I need to know the question.

490
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Speaker 2: Did he play for the University of Pittsburgh? Yes, I

491
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Speaker 2: don't don't.

492
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Speaker 3: I don't know what more. I don't, I don't know

493
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Speaker 3: what more. Listen when you when you when you fill

494
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: out your resume, right, when you fill out your resume? Yes,

495
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 3: and you going for that job interview. You want to

496
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 3: put your best foot forward. You want to keep a

497
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 3: lasting impression. Well the impressions with what we saw Friday

498
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: night from the person they claim is the fourth is

499
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 3: the fourth string quarterback? Yeah, okay, what do we do

500
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 3: We built from that on Saturday?

501
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Speaker 2: Well you build from that.

502
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Speaker 1: No, you build from that starting in practice by giving

503
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Speaker 1: him more reps, more quality reps. You don't leave him

504
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Speaker 1: in the position that he was in where he's getting

505
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: a handful of refs with the threes and fours. You

506
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: give him some opportunities with the ones. With the tooths.

507
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you he has to take five six

508
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: reps with the ones, but I'm saying you sprinkle. Maybe

509
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: you give him one or two reps. Maybe you give

510
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: him three or four ref with the twos. I do

511
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: agree with this. Until we see Sanders get practice ref

512
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Speaker 1: with the number one offense, we can't believe that Browns

513
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: view him as having much of a shot to be

514
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: number two when the season began.

515
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 2: True, I do agree with that statement.

516
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: You're not going from four to two if you for

517
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: a training camp, then all of a sudden the seasons start,

518
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: your number two. They're gonna need to see you with

519
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: the ones and twos to feel comfortable because they got

520
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: to make a decision. And when you make that decision,

521
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: you release somebody. Ain't no guaranteed that you're gonna be

522
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: able to bring them back and put them on your

523
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: practice squad. Somebody might sign them and put them on

524
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Speaker 1: the active roster. So that's the case, Oh Joe, do

525
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: I stay on your practice squad for say twenty five

526
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: to thirty five, or do I go somewhere and get

527
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get a real roster spot and make

528
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: almost a million dollars a year.

529
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 2: So that's the question that you have.

530
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: That's a decision that you make when you release these guys,

531
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Speaker 1: because I'm sure there's some guys you know. I would

532
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 1: love to have him to have another year learning our

533
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: system and when we come back next year, having the OTAs,

534
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: the training camp, the season of working the scout team stuff,

535
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: when we come back for OTA, he should be good

536
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: to go.

537
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: He should be fully developed and good to go.

538
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: So I don't want people thinking that we're beating Ocho

539
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: and now beating up on Zach Jackson. I agree with

540
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: what he's saying, But my thing, I'm more talking about

541
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: the Browns as a as as an organization, as a

542
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: coaching staff. Are you are you are? Because the fans

543
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: are saying you want us to believe you or are lying?

544
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 2: Guys? I know, I know, I know what my eyes

545
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: I saw. I know what I saw. I hear what

546
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 2: you're saying, but.

547
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: I see better than I hear. Y'all keep telling us.

548
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabral Dylan Gabriel, but we have yet to see him.

549
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 1: Now everything that I see is that now he's you know,

550
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: she's not better than you?

551
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: Do it.

552
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: For most of the articles that I've been reading it

553
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: eight people can write whatever they want to write, so

554
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to put too much emphasis.

555
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: But I haven't seen I.

556
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: Haven't read a whole lot that where they said that

557
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel is better, has been played, has played better,

558
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 1: or playing better than young?

559
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: What did What did I tell you not too long ago?

560
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: But how cam Look, I'm not saying those names again

561
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 3: this time because I don't want to get nobody in

562
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 3: no trouble. What did I tell you? And then exactly

563
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: what that individual said, who's in there every day that

564
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: plays on the other side of the ball and has

565
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 3: to see it, exactly what he said way back then,

566
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: we saw it show up, the fact that he's not

567
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 3: getting first team reps with the ones of the tools

568
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 3: and still went out there and looked the way he did.

569
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: What does that tell you anybody to begin with?

570
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: Damn the one of the tools, O Joe, he barely

571
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: getting reps at all?

572
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 3: And then stick, Okay, I'll say no more again, say

573
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: no more so you're not doing him justice in practice,

574
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: but still showed up in the game and looked the

575
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 3: part and look like that. What does that say? But

576
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: we gonna see Saturday, And I hope Delan Gabriel gets

577
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 3: his opportunity because I would love to see what he

578
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 3: does and then what he gives that offense and that

579
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 3: that coach of staff that believes in him. I'm hoping

580
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: he gets a fair shot. I'm hoping he does. I'm

581
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: hoping he does. I would love to see it. I

582
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: would love to see it. I know he's a competitor.

583
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 3: He was great at organ he was really good. So

584
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 3: I'm all, I'm all for it.

585
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's let the guy like.

586
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: It's like when you in that situation, the guy flashes normally,

587
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: when guys flashes in camp. Oh, Joe, you and I

588
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: both played the NFL for a long time. We both

589
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: played at a high level every team that I've been on,

590
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: when a guy flashes in practice, a guy flashes in

591
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,479
Speaker 1: the game, he gets he gets to move up, and

592
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: he gets meaning for reps, more meaningful reps, meaning he's

593
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: no longer on the third or fourth. They don't sneak

594
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: some reps in with the two's maybe they'll give him

595
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: one or two shots with the ones. That's normally how

596
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: it works. They're not so setting their ways that it's like, oh,

597
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: we just see this guy as It's kind of like TD.

598
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: I gave private example. TD was.

599
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: TD was a sixth round draft pick. TV was probably

600
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: like the fifth or the sixth running back. But every

601
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: day he made that play on kickoff, and every day

602
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: you saw TV get a little better. They gave him

603
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more reps, and so all of a sudden,

604
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: he go from six to five, from five to four,

605
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: four to two after the first game of the season,

606
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: TD one. Normally, that's how it plays out. Guys show

607
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: you in the game, because when guys flashing practice O Joe,

608
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: you're thinking to yourself, I wonder if he do that

609
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: in the game. Hell, coach, put his ads in the game.

610
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: Let's see what we could do that. That's normally how

611
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: it happened. Wade Phillips, our defensive coordinator, That's how I

612
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: got in the game. He said, Dan put his ass

613
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: in the game. Let's see if they can cover it,

614
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: because we can't. Damn Like, Okay, they put my ass

615
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: in the game. Well, shr Door, I think Shaudor showed

616
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: you something that he deserve it. I'm not saying he

617
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: needs to do you need to implement him as the

618
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: starter the number one.

619
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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I didn't. We didn't say that.

620
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: That's not what we're saying. But I think he's shown

621
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: you enough. Friday just says, you know what, We might

622
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: need to give him some more quality reps with guys

623
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: that's going to be playing on Sunday, and let's see

624
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: him facing the number one defense Miles Garrett, those guys

625
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: over there. But let's give him Jerry Judy, Let's give

626
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: him in Djoku. Let's see if he can replicate some

627
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: of that what he did on Friday with the ones today.

628
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: That's all we're saying.

629
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Speaker 3: I can I say one more thing, go ahead. If

630
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 3: you can do what he did without getting the practice

631
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: reps in a game without the number ones around him,

632
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 3: things only get easier when you have the ones at

633
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: your disposal that are better at the position Cedric Tillman

634
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: and Joku, Jerry ju. It only becomes easier, Uncle, It

635
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: doesn't get it didn't get more difficult now once you're

636
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: playing against the team that scheme for you and disguises

637
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: and does all the all the stuff, you know, the

638
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: game planning for you. Okay, that's different. Then you just

639
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: have to process a little bit faster. That's all They

640
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: line up and they just go.

641
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: That's exactly how it is.

642
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: But oo, you get better at something by doing sad

643
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: things exactly.

644
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 3: Hear what you just said. You get better something by

645
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: doing sad thing. But he wasn't doing sad thing because

646
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: he wasn't getting and still look the way he did.

647
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: Agree.

648
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 3: They don't do it that way. They that organization, they

649
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: don't view it that way. How I don't know. I

650
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: don't know, but I'm guessing in the in the in

651
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 3: the direction in which they're going, I'm hoping they're right.

652
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: They haven't been right in the thirty five quarterback that

653
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: they tried previously. Or maybe I'm wrong.

654
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: No, I just think I do believe that he's earned

655
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: the right to get quality reps with the ones and twos.

656
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you implement him that now he's

657
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: QB one. I'm not saying it's QB two maybe, but

658
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: I think he's earned that opportunity.

659
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: I know one thing. I know one thing. They better

660
00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: put a statue of Andrew Berry outside that god damn stadium. Yeah,

661
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: tell you that. I listen. I can already foresee how

662
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: it's gonna go. I already know how it's gonna go.

663
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,479
Speaker 3: I I can already see it. They gonna continue to play,

664
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 3: continue to play, continue to play, put everybody in front

665
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 3: of him, continue to play. And then when this opportunity

666
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 3: presents itself, like it did because of injury, he looked

667
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: a certain way. You can't deny it. You can't deny it.

668
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 3: No matter what you try to do, you can't deny it.

669
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: You can't.

670
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 2: Oh Joe and Cleveland doing this.

671
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: Sometimes a man can make his destiny on the very

672
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: road he took to avoid it. Sometimes you might they

673
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: might even have their quarterback even though they tried to

674
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: avoid giving him the unity. Come on, man, on the

675
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: very road you took to avoid it, you found your destiny.

676
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: I just I'm not saying I'm general manager. I'm not

677
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: saying I'm a player personnel director. I just know that

678
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: when guys flash go back to Tom Brady.

679
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: They kept four quarterbacks that year.

680
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: Coach Belichick said that he saw something in Tom that said,

681
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: if he got more of an opportunity, he might be okay.

682
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: He didn't know he was gonna be this hell, if

683
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: he knew he was gonna be that, somebody would have

684
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: taken him in the the first pick in the draft.

685
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: But he flashed enough guys, you know, a late round pick. Okay,

686
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: like he showed something. He just sometimes sometimes you just

687
00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: need time. Sometimes you need more opportunity, you know. Uh,

688
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: looking at Trey Lance, Trey lamps like he needed time, time.

689
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: Which the forty nine ers didn't have. The forty nine

690
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: ers are on the clock.

691
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: They got to win now with the roster that they have,

692
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: they're not in rebuild. Well, the Cleveland what do you are?

693
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: I mean, you just gave a guy one hundred and

694
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: forty million dollars. He's under the assumption now he played

695
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: it both ways. You know, I want out y'all not winning?

696
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: Got the money? Hey, But what y'all what are y'all doing?

697
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Are y'all in rebuild or you're trying to win? Because

698
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: y'all see who is in y'all division? Quarterbacks Lamar Jackson

699
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow. Now, Lamar Jackson is twenty seven, twenty eight,

700
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: he got he got another five to ten years in Baltimore.

701
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow might be a you're younger than Lamar. He's

702
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: got another five to ten years in Cincinnati. Well, while

703
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: y'all playing musical chairs with quarterbacks, they've identified their guy,

704
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: uh and he's going to be there for the almost

705
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: a decade. You're not beating a team that has an

706
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: established quarterback playing musical chairs with quarterback.

707
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 3: No, uh, not at all, not at all. I listen.

708
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's exciting. It's exciting. And listen even

709
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 3: as a as a Bengal fan, as a Bengal player

710
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: at heart, it's it's enjoyable to be talking about the Brown.

711
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: It's enjoyable.

712
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: Huh.

713
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: It's exciting, it's exciting for for for Brown fans. I mean,

714
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 3: when's the last time you had a player of this magnitude,

715
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 3: who's a rookie that has you guys in the national

716
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: spot like that this right at all at all times.

717
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: Basically, yeah, you gotta go back to Johnny football.

718
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 3: Oh, hey boy, Johnny boy, Johnny was special. Way now

719
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 3: the Texas him Johnny with special brack. You were special.

720
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: So it's, uh, we'll we'll see. It'll be interesting to

721
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: see when they go out to practice today. I mean

722
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: to excuse me today, tomorrow, what comes back? What type

723
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: of reps uh did should do or get? Did he

724
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: get rep with the ones? Did he get a rep

725
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: in two with the ones? Did he get anything with

726
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: the two's or was he back relegated to be in

727
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: the fourth quarterback and getting one rep with the with

728
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: the Fords or no reps or just getting sidework. That's

729
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: gonna be the tail that that's gonna tell us, so Joe,

730
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: because what they're talking and and and what's actually happening,

731
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: we'll find out. We'll find out, and we'll see what

732
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: they do well how they played this thing out on

733
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: Saturday when they play the game. Teams are reportedly monitoring

734
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: Tyreek for potential trade. According to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, I've

735
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: talked to a few teams who are at least monitored

736
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: his future a little bit. Could he be a potential

737
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: trade target? Now? I know Dolphins earlier this summers were

738
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: telling teams, no, we're not trading Tyreek Hill, but they

739
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: just wonder is he going to be available? It could

740
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: be wished for thinking maybe they want him to be available,

741
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: but he's a player. When I bring up the teams, hey,

742
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: who's sort of a trade target you're watching. They bring

743
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: up Tyreek Hill, so we'll see. He's a big option

744
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: for tour and they would be a major move if

745
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: they did move a well a move away from him. Yes, so, Joe,

746
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: are they will? They should? They your hometown team you

747
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: grew up watching. Trade Tyreek Hughes. Absolutely not.

748
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,359
Speaker 3: You want a chance to compete in the AFSE East

749
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 3: against the Buffalo Bills. You going a chan You take

750
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 3: away one of the most dynamic weapons in the NFL?

751
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: Are you serious? I love h Han, I love Wadle.

752
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: They have some great.

753
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: Water got nicked in Friday's practice, so he didn't play that.

754
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: They have some great receivers also on that squad, but

755
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: we talked about one of the greatest receivers they ever played,

756
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 3: who is still very viable in one of the best

757
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 3: in the game top five. I don't care about that

758
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 3: goddamn down season. Come on now, the fastest still in

759
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: the NFL. We talk about trading them, not that that

760
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: makes no sense logically. If you're serious about winning, I

761
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: need all hands on deck, the best weapons I can

762
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 3: have too has that regardless of their issues personally, listen,

763
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm not there to like you. Everybody's not going to

764
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: get along. We come into camp with one goal, one

765
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 3: goal in mind to win games and hopefully compete for them.

766
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 3: Lombardi in San Francisco. This ain't no goddamn kom by

767
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 3: y'all moment. What are we talking about? You want your

768
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 3: best players on your team offensively and defensively so you

769
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 3: can go out there compete on Sundays at one o'clock.

770
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: You don't trade them away, not when they're still this good.

771
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: What sense does that make?

772
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: I think a lot is predicated on tools health. He

773
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: gets nicked again, they're gonna move.

774
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 3: On how they just painted him last year. If Tour

775
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: gets hurt, they're gonna go okay, you think so? M hmm,

776
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, wait, whoa wait a minute, I'm slow down,

777
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 3: Wait slop, come on, n wait a minute. I don't

778
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 3: want to help me understand that, because if Tour gets hurt,

779
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 3: right wait, stay with me real quick. If it gets

780
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 3: hurt Zach Wilson comes in, Why would you take that

781
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: weapon away from Zach Wilson, who is also a service quarterback.

782
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't want him to hurt himself. You know, with

783
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: with loaded weapons in the house, you gotta be careful

784
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: with kids. That don't know how to handle them. Zach

785
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: Wilson don't know what to do with that. And here's

786
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: the thing, oh Joe, when people name keeps coming up

787
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 1: his trade target, somebody talking, he said that Garremy Fola

788
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: just said that basically, every time he reached out for

789
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: a name, who should be monitoring why everybody keep reaching

790
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: in Tyreek Hill's name?

791
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: You know why?

792
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: They they he had a down year. They didn't appreciate

793
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: how he handled the end of the year, which I

794
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: told you they were gonna be unhappy with that because

795
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: what he got.

796
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 2: On his chest.

797
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: So Joe, he got that captain suck you you do

798
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: things a little different than that a normal person. So

799
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: even when you don't feel like, oh yo, sometimes you

800
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: got to suck it up, like hey man, man, man,

801
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: we ain't en't got no chance, man, we din thirty

802
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: one to nothing at the start of the board. You

803
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: can't come out. You got to go down with the shimp.

804
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: They didn't like how he handled that. There are some

805
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: other things that's that was going on. They didn't like how,

806
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: oh Joe, he got off to a bad start. Remember

807
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: the first game of the season, the police, you know,

808
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: he coming through the States, are you coming into the stadium.

809
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: You know got a Coles cambell and handcuffs. They got

810
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: John neu Smith, you know they it's just like.

811
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 2: Is this too much? And so.

812
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: I do believe the Dolphins had had had mentioned that

813
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: had potentially dangled him out there.

814
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: Listen, you could dangle all you want. You can them

815
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 3: like you can dangle them like his missiletoe. Ye and

816
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 3: me and somebody somebody will come along show up. One

817
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 3: of the top five threats in the NFL from an

818
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: offensive offensive weapons. That's a dream come true. Allowing him

819
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: to be available. What did we talk about some of

820
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: the team that's on the verge of you know what,

821
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 3: if we can add this to our offense, that gives

822
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: us another weapon, that gives another chance to get that

823
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: much better. Man, come on, man, please please, I can

824
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: understand if he has slowed down or he's not the

825
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 3: same Tyreek he used to be. Man, I just watched

826
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: young Bull run. Goddamn one, he can't even know track

827
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: run up. He's a football player, someone that is fast

828
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 3: as he is, that is dynamic as he is on

829
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 3: the field on Sundays, even when he loses step in

830
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 3: when he's thirty five. He's still fasten everybody else. But

831
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: you know what, we're gonna sing him out there for

832
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: trade talks.

833
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: Huh.

834
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: He makes our offense that much easier. He makes it

835
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: easy for Wadle, he makes it easy for Tour, He

836
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,760
Speaker 3: makes it easy for eight Cham Why because they always

837
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: got to have somebody on the top of that young

838
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 3: bull both ways he opens, Huh, this is what we

839
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: want to trade. Come on, man, stop playing. We want

840
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 3: a chance to be able to beat the Bills. We

841
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: want who give us our best chance to beat the Bills? Well,

842
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 3: maybe just the most dynamic receiver of all time in

843
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: the history of the game that happens to be on

844
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: our team. Hell, we can't even beat Josh Shadow. Now

845
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: we talk about trading away what? Man? Stop playing? What

846
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: are we talking about? Maybe maybe maybe the talks, or

847
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 3: maybe this is getting to get in line. Maybe this

848
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 3: should get him to stop some of the shenanigans he doing.

849
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 3: You know, take away his personality? Why would you do that?

850
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: Don't take away what makes him him? I don't know.

851
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. Anytime they're talks like that, unk, you

852
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: know it comes from where I know that most of

853
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: the time to come from in the house. The call

854
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: is always coming from in the house.

855
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: Jeremy said, but he's a player.

856
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 1: When I bring up to teams, hey, who is sort

857
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: of a trade target you're watching, they bring up Tyreek Hill.

858
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: So no matter the team, when he's like, man, who

859
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: you're watching, who you think might get traded? Everybody think

860
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: it the same way.

861
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: If we talk about getting traded, we'll be waiting on.

862
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: What are we waiting on? What are we waiting on?

863
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 3: Why are we waiting for the season to start the trading?

864
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: If that was the point, Hey, you could have got

865
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: rid him last year in the off season, during the draft,

866
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: the season get ready to start. Now he hadn't been

867
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 3: through training camp playing where he's not playing preseason games.

868
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 3: You could let him go already. So what's the point

869
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 3: of the conversation being brought up before the season even started.

870
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 3: That makes no sense.

871
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Hey, you know there's been some trade deadlines. I mean,

872
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: some guys right at the trade deadline get moved.

873
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing. The right team gonna get him.

874
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 3: Hell I wouldn't. Don't don't be surprised to end up

875
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 3: back in Kansas City. Yeah, yeah, don't don't be surprised.

876
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: You see what they got, Tyree, she writes, And what's

877
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: my dog name? It was with Arizona Man.

878
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: Oh, Hollywood, come on man, stop playing?

879
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, play around if you want to. You think

880
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 3: you think Mahomes won't be up there, mister Reed, mister

881
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 3: hunt Man going and get ten and bring him on

882
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 3: back over here. Yeah, okay, and kills it. But y'all

883
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 3: want to play.

884
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: They got Robert Tanya too. Yeah, he was really good

885
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: at Green Bay until.

886
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: He hurted me.

887
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Hollywood Brown probably come on down, you know,

888
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 3: Brown heat from the crib. I can see that trade.

889
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 3: I'm just throwing this out there hypothetically. Oh you want

890
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: to trade? Okay, Yeah, we're seeing Hollywood Brown down to Miami.

891
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 3: So we're gonna exchange speed for speed.

892
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: That's a I mean, Hollywood. They making the kind of

893
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: money Tyreek is thirty million, Hollywood Brown might be waking.

894
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: Five six uh.

895
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: Dolphin general manager Chris Greer said in April before the

896
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: draft that he had no intentions of dealing Tyreek, but

897
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: an offer including two first round picks would be enticing.

898
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna give up that. Nobody gonna give up on

899
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: two first round picks for no receiver, and and and

900
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: playing got to pay it. No, no, now, maybe a second,

901
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: maybe a second, maybe a third and the fifth.

902
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: Howld Tyreek thirty thirty one.

903
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 3: Is a player we can use and worry about the

904
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 3: age factor.

905
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't what teams do.

906
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: Listen, oh Joe, you know they put they put expiration

907
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: dates on everything.

908
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 3: They can do that, but this expiration Listen, the expiration

909
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: date on that one is a little different than everybody else.

910
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: I know, place through the games you're gonna win stupid prizes.

911
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 2: I just don't believe he's going for two first round picks.

912
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: I think if they made I believe, had they made

913
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: it more palatable, I believe they traded him the soft season.

914
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,479
Speaker 3: If they're like, okay, that would have made more sense.

915
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: It is off season draft, yes, right now, we look

916
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 3: it up before the season starts.

917
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: Huh.

918
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean Davante went for two first rounders what four

919
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: years ago? But how it was Davante Davonte was what

920
00:49:53,120 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven then? Mhm, So it's gonna it's gonna be

921
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: extremely interesting. Uh, he was twenty eight at a time

922
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: he thirty two. Okay, Nah, only a quarterback thirty one

923
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: can go for two first riders you'll trade. You'll trade

924
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: two first riders for Lamar, You'll trade two first riders

925
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: for Mahome. Hell, you give up three first rounders for those,

926
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: Josh Allens, Joe Berh. There are certain guys. Yeah, and

927
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: I don't think any of those guys. I think Mahomes

928
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: will be thirty his birthday, right, But I don't think

929
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: any of those guys are thirty currently.

930
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: Uh.

931
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna

932
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: be very interesting to see how this season starts, because

933
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: a lot of time is how to see how's the

934
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: season going. Ojoe, we ain't got no chance for the playoffs.

935
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: We got a chance for the playoffs. Let's go ahead

936
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: and get some draft capital, O Joe, Let's go ahead

937
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: and get this thirty thirty one, thirty thirty one million dollars.

938
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: Uh, Yes, okay, I mean I like it from from

939
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 3: from that standpoint, I understand it.

940
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 2: They that's how they think.

941
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: I know that.

942
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 2: I know.

943
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 3: I know the business side of it because if you're

944
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 3: not using the thirty one thirty one million dollar receiver

945
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 3: the right way, you're paying thirty one for a reason

946
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: not using them in the man in which he's making

947
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: thirty one for a reason. Well, that's on you.

948
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: That's on you, Oh Joe. The Chargers have Justin Herbert

949
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: doing running back drills. You've got to check out this

950
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: video courtesy of Nate Ghanci. God see God's me.

951
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: I like it.

952
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: That's a that's something.

953
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: Jim Harbor putting together, because that's that's that's that's something

954
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: you would do.

955
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: Have everybody are doing doing running back drills.

956
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: Going through the garlet.

957
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you know sometimes you know, you know, you know,

958
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: you come through, Oh yoe, you know they you know

959
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: you're working on your grip. They're gonna tug, they gonna yeah,

960
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: but normally they don't have the guy getting abof the

961
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: ground like the running but like a running back, like

962
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: a running back would.

963
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 3: Now you go.

964
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: But but that's the only thing. I mean, the guys,

965
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: the guys, you know, guy's tugged. You know, you get

966
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: the ball. You're not used to carrying the football, hey,

967
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: he said, making sure you keep it secure. Uh, But

968
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, normally they do it a

969
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: different way than that. But hey, Jim has his way

970
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: of doing things and it's kind of served him well

971
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: because he's one and it didn't take him long to

972
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 1: start winning once he got there.

973
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: So, uh, I don't have any problem. And man, you.

974
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 3: Got me, hot man, Now you got me, hot man.

975
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 3: I'm just sitting here thinking about it.

976
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: What you hot for?

977
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 3: I'm talking about? Talk about trading Tyreek? Man, that's almost

978
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 3: as ridiculous as saying, you know.

979
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: What they traded random? Are they traded tarrl Owens? They

980
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: traded James Laughton. So now I'm will ask you again.

981
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: Now you tell me which one of those three guys

982
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: Tyreek is better than? Right now, they cut Jerry Rice.

983
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: Now you tell me with one of the four guys

984
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: I named, Tyreek's better than.

985
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm still mad, still mad? Now have you right every

986
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 3: right to be mad? Because I'm thinking about my Dolphins.

987
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about my Dolphins. Listen in us, in us

988
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 3: having a chance for those that say, oh you a

989
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 3: bangl blah blah blah Manater. I was born at Jackson

990
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 3: Memorial Hospital. I was born at Jackson Momhorial Hospital right

991
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 3: there over town, at three oh eight on Jerry in

992
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight. Therefore, I grew up watching the Dolphins,

993
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 3: Dan Marinozanka, Mark Duper. So therefore that is where my

994
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 3: love and passion enthusiasm being a dolphin fan comes from.

995
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 3: So the fact that he gives us our best chance

996
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: to compete offensively in the ASC's against an animal that

997
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 3: they have down there in Buffalo, New York, by the

998
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 3: name of Josh.

999
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 2: Allen up there. But yeah, we know you going.

1000
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: Come on, man, what are we What are we talking about?

1001
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: Are we even trying?

1002
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: I mean down there, he'd be playing the Cuba. I said,

1003
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: if people down he'd be in Cuba. But you'd answer

1004
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: my question, o Jo, I asked you. I gave you

1005
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: some names. I said, they cut Jerry, they traded Randy,

1006
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: They traded James Lofton, they traded t O. I just

1007
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: gave you four names. I said, now, which one TiO

1008
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: better than they cut Jerry.

1009
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, that's just the bensiness.

1010
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: Repeat what I just said.

1011
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 3: You said they cut Randy, they cut too.

1012
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: They traded. They traded Randy first, they trade. Remember they

1013
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: traded Randy to Oakland. Oakland traded him to uh to Know,

1014
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: traded him to New England. New England traded him back

1015
00:54:55,440 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: to Minnesota. Minnesota. I think Minnesota released I mean he

1016
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: went to Tennessee and then he ended up and then

1017
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 1: he ended up in with the forty nine ers.

1018
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 3: Damn, man, I just don't say it's icky business owns God,

1019
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 3: just just just think just thinking about that, man.

1020
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: I mean, well you if you think about it. T

1021
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: O t O was a free agent and there was

1022
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: some mix up with the paper because he was supposed

1023
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: to go to Baltimore.

1024
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 3: Oh he won't going to Baltimore. Oh no, remember that.

1025
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 3: I remember that conversation. Oh he won't going to Baltimore.

1026
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, I mean his name was kind of on

1027
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: the contract, but that's neither heard. We'll move over to that.

1028
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: And then he goes to Philly. We saw what happened

1029
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: to Philly. Phil Philly released him. He goes to Dallas.

1030
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: He got released the Dallas. So we're talking about bro Cowboy.

1031
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: You know the Cowboys released image, right they did.

1032
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: Hey, it's nature of the business. It's grimy. That's why

1033
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 3: you got to get as much as you can while

1034
00:55:59,480 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: you're in it.

1035
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: Yes, you get no, you get no qualm from your

1036
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: boss because we both we both have been.

1037
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: On the ends and we know how this thing works. Yeah.

1038
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: And when you when you when you play a professional sport,

1039
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: money and memories.

1040
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: You try to gather as much of both of you

1041
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 2: can because it's gonna end here at some point.

1042
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 3: It's it's a small window of your life. The NFL.

1043
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 3: It stands not for long because it's a small opportunity.

1044
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 3: And the years go by so fast. Huh. You look up,

1045
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 3: you be like, well, god, damn, I mean.

1046
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: You're seven already.

1047
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yep, that's why you got to You got

1048
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: to protect your chicken. But the fund. But at that ride, man,

1049
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 3: it goes by so fast like a roller coaster, you

1050
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 3: don't even realize it.

1051
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: Yep.

1052
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll was asked today about Geno smith obscene gesture

1053
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,479
Speaker 1: as he defended his quarter. He said, did you see

1054
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: the sign? Did you see what the sign said? Next question, well,

1055
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: we know what the sign said. Bigger bus Gino or

1056
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell with Gino and Max Crosby over reacting.

1057
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: Hey, I mean I was. That's a tough one. I

1058
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 3: wouldn't say overreacted. Boom, you're talking trashing me. You gotta

1059
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 3: sign right in my face all I've done for you.

1060
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 3: I'm back here in Seattle, and that's what you think

1061
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 3: of me. I laid my life up. The lineage your

1062
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 3: quarterback number one for a couple of years. You know,

1063
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 3: things didn't workout, and that's how you think of me.

1064
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm coming back. I'm coming back with grace. I love you.

1065
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 3: I did everything I could for you as a Seahawk,

1066
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 3: and that's how you feel. Now you feel I'm a

1067
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 3: bus What are we talking about?

1068
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: Huh?

1069
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: If anything, you should be applauding me. Clap for me.

1070
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 3: I know as a quarterback number one, you hold me

1071
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 3: to a standard as is in comparison to some of

1072
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: the greats. I wasn't Tom Brady, I wasn't Peyton Manning.

1073
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 3: But I've done all I could and laid it on

1074
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: the line for you week in and week out.

1075
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: Twelve Well cool, it's not even It's not even close

1076
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: to being true. Now, if Geno Smith was Ryan Leaf,

1077
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: have a conversation about him, Ginos I mean him or JaMarcus.

1078
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: Don't do that as a fan, like, come on, man, that's.

1079
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: Not Gino was comeback Player of the Year.

1080
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: He threw a career high thirty touchdown lead the league

1081
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: and completion percentage, and earned back to back Pro Bowls. So,

1082
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: by no stretch of their imagination, is Geno Smith a bus?

1083
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 3: No but I mean, listen, fans do certain things and

1084
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 3: get up on of your skin. You know, you leave

1085
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 3: a situation most of the time and you come back.

1086
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 3: Some people let their true feelings show on how they

1087
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 3: really feel about you. Now, I understand your look. You

1088
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 3: might be to the Seahawks, but all I've done. This

1089
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 3: is how you really feel about me truthfully, now that

1090
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 3: I'm not here. Even if you yes, man, don't don't

1091
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: do me like that. Yes, don't do me like that.

1092
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: You mean I dated you for for for four five, six,

1093
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 3: six years and now that I'm going Wait, this is

1094
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 3: how you truly feel about me now that I'm no

1095
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 3: longer around because I'm a no balance. Yes, that hurts,

1096
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 3: that stings. So I can understand where the middle finger

1097
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: came from. I understand, like, what are we talking about?

1098
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 3: I sacrifice you to make you happy. On Sundays at

1099
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 3: one o'clock, I was throwing touchdown the DK and Tyler

1100
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 3: locket to make you happy, no off fan.

1101
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: I A lot of players play for.

1102
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: Teammates, respect, coaches, trust, fans, appreciation. I guess you didn't

1103
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: appreciate me as much much as I thought you did,

1104
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: So it does hurt when you put it what you

1105
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: when you put what you put into it. Lebron might

1106
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: not ever meant this, but it hurt him going back

1107
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: to Cleveland, considering what he gave him.

1108
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 2: Here. He left.

1109
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: But Braun, I did let her alive for you. I

1110
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: gave you seven great years, did all I could, and

1111
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: then you burn my jersey. You say all these things

1112
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: about Geno's like.

1113
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 2: I had to.

1114
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: I resurrected my career in Seattle. All I wanted was

1115
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: to be appreciated. I know my teammates respected me. I

1116
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: know my coaches trusted me. Does when you put when

1117
01:00:52,560 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: you put a lot into something, Ah grandy, just say

1118
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: all the time, boy, I hate an ungrateful person. That

1119
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: irks me too. That irks me too. I hate ungratefulness.

1120
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: M hm.

1121
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 3: Hm.

1122
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: We see out of the best. Sometimes you better be

1123
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: careful what you wish for. You thought you. I guess

1124
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 1: you that like uh you that like uh gino, Well,

1125
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 1: ain't no, ain't no, ain't no thing that you're getting.

1126
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: What's this came from? Uh Minnesota? Don uh say, I'm

1127
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: Donald ain't no guarantee he ain't got the weapons that

1128
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: he had in Minnesota.

1129
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: He ain't got no jedile he ain't got no Adison,

1130
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: he ain't got Hawkinson, he ain't got Aaron Jones, and

1131
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: he ain't got Kevin O'Connor. Call him plays he got

1132
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: and we saw the We saw the last two games, right, did.

1133
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: You see the last two games?

1134
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: You got jed?

1135
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 2: Oh? So what oo? What was the craziest sign you saw?

1136
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: The player? Oh?

1137
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 3: Man, that's a good one. On that's that's a good one.

1138
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: Hey.

1139
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. I enjoyed those environments too, Uncle, I,

1140
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. The craziest sign probably the old the

1141
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 3: old Oho instead of sink, probably stinko. Yeah, yeah, yeah

1142
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 3: most of the time. And then it's so funny. They

1143
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: would have their signs, they would have their signs, and

1144
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 3: I would talk trash back and you know, walk walk

1145
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 3: up to the stands and.

1146
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 2: Talk, didn't you sign one of their signs?

1147
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,080
Speaker 3: Didn't you sign somebody a sign? Time and listen And

1148
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 3: they always say the same thing, Listen, we do this

1149
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 3: because we love you. It had nothing for the team,

1150
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 3: but you want our favorites. And everybody say the same thing.

1151
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 3: They don't really mean it, but they don't have a

1152
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 3: choice but to go against me, because if.

1153
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 2: You really did suck.

1154
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: Nobody says the guy that they're getting in the game,

1155
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: you suck, right, it's all of the players that's really good.

1156
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: It sucked, which means you don't. You don't actually suck.

1157
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: That means you're very very good. Ain't nobody doing Tom

1158
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: Brady's back up? They Brady? They're not boy, they're not

1159
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: boring to Peyton Man, the guy that I guarantee you

1160
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: if if the quarterback. I mean, look, they're gonna blue

1161
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: the poling team. But the loudest boos. Let's just say

1162
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady wasn't first, he was third. They're gonna be

1163
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: looking for Brady because they want to boo him. You

1164
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: bow greatness.

1165
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: About it.

1166
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 3: I love playing in hostile and I love love. I

1167
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 3: couldn't it's playing at home and cool. That's fun. But

1168
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 3: I like cursing and talking trash and all that that did.

1169
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 3: That was just I was so comfortable being uncomfortable in

1170
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 3: hostile environments.

1171
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: Well, y'all, y'all rival, y'all rival was was Cleveland because

1172
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: remember when Sam Whye you got on the phone and said,

1173
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: don't throw batteries. You live in Cincinnati, you don't live

1174
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Yeah, you got that that was. That was

1175
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: you guys, because you're both in the Ohio, Ohio. So

1176
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: so it's uh uh, it's a it's a natural it's

1177
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: a natural rivalry. I mean, look, there was no love

1178
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: lost in it. Before they renamed it the a f

1179
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: C North, it was the a f C Central. I

1180
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: think it was still the a f C Central when

1181
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 1: you got in.

1182
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: They changed it.

1183
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: Like in oh two they went to the food for

1184
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: the eight the uh uh the four team divisions because

1185
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: it used to be Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, uh, Baltimore, Tennessee

1186
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville. We were all in one division on jes

1187
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: we all we were all in one division and then

1188
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 1: they you know, they split it up and then they

1189
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: took Jacksonville in Tennessee and put them in the South.

1190
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1191
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: Uh, we used to be in Seattle, used to be

1192
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 1: in the AFC West. Then they went to the NFC West,

1193
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: but it states, uh the Chargers, the Raiders us in

1194
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: Kansas City. But uh, like when you got like the

1195
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: the Raiders, you know, obviously the Raiders and and it

1196
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: was our biggest rivals because we came in. They came

1197
01:05:54,520 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: in like the AFL together the Chiefs, but it's different player.

1198
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: It's definitely different playing on the road than at home.

1199
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: You feel it as you're driving in. Everybody's already tailgating

1200
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: and them you know what I'm saying, Oh Joe, they

1201
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,440
Speaker 1: already tailgating, and they they do it. They throw in

1202
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: the football. They got their drinking beer already, Like how

1203
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: the hell y'all drinking beer at nine o'clock in the morning.

1204
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: But they, you know, they getting their things. They getting there,

1205
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: they grilling. Uh Cleveland, Cleveland fans, I will give them

1206
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 1: credit for as little as they've won in the last

1207
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: thirty plus years, them mofos show over.

1208
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: I ain't I ain't never look.

1209
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: I can understand had they went to the AFC Championship

1210
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: Game or they went to the Super Bowl, and even

1211
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: if they lost, but the way they show up for

1212
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: their team to not win more than what they do,

1213
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: I ain't seen nothing like it. Ain't no way. I'm anicole.

1214
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: Let alone get up and fourteen is going forour and

1215
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: four and thirteen, four and twelve.

1216
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 3: Oh I had I had a special relationship with those

1217
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 3: Cleveland fans, especially Big Dog. I'm not sure what Big

1218
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: Dog is at this point. Every time I do I'm

1219
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 3: on here and we talk about Cleveland. I always curious

1220
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 3: how Big Dog is doing everyone that's sat in that.

1221
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 3: I think that might be the North the North end zone.

1222
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 3: They showed such love in a hostile way, and I

1223
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 3: made sure to show that love back, even though obviously

1224
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 3: they're they're the opposing fans. But I've always showed them respect.

1225
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 3: They've always showed me respect, and they knew understood when

1226
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: it was game time. When it's game time, man, forget

1227
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 3: you were gon. We're gonna have some fun. And I remember,

1228
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 3: I remember getting permissioned. I think I might be the

1229
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 3: only person that's done that and been accepting of that.

1230
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 3: Is when I did. I leaped in the dog pound.

1231
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 3: Remember remember when I jumped in the dog pound. So

1232
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,280
Speaker 3: I asked a big dogs before the game start, I said, listen,

1233
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 3: if I happened to on this end, I want to

1234
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 3: jump to you. No disrespect, but let me jump to you.

1235
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 3: And he said, yeah, well come on and do it

1236
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 3: and long behold.

1237
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 2: You know he one person, right, yeah.

1238
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 3: Big dog, Yeah, one part the big big man, big man.

1239
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: But there's more people in the.

1240
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 3: Listen. I scored on that end and I looked for

1241
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 3: him and I saw him I jumped right to him.

1242
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 3: Everybody else around, man, I smelled like being to hold

1243
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 3: the rest of the game, it did.

1244
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: They shove your hands, but listen, that was he.

1245
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 3: That was a great moment for me. Man, that was

1246
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 3: a great moment Cleveland Brown.

1247
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah you you you y for them. It was awesome.