1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: This is the Blue Big Day Bake podcast, available every 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: morning on Apple, Spotify or wherever you listen. It's Friday, 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: the seventh of March in London. I'm Caroline HIPKIF and. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 3: I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today. Beijing blasts Trump as 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 3: two faced. China's foreign minister delivers a broadside at the 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 3: US president as tensions rise. 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Reversing course for now, Trump delays a large portion of 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: his administration's new tariffs on Mexico and Canada. 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 3: Plus shaky sentiment, markets remain unconvinced by Trump's latest move 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: on levies as the Nasdak nears correction territory. 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: Let's start with a roundup of our top stories. 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: China's top diplomat has attacked President Trump's approach to China 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 3: and Tariff's Foreign Minister Wangiya said on the sidelines of 15 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 3: the National People's Congress of the US shouldn't return good 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: with evil. His words are spoken by a translator. 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 4: Mutual respect is a basic government state to state relations. 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 4: He is also an important for China US relations. No 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 4: country should fantasize that it can suppress China and maintain 20 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 4: good relations with China. At the same time, are not 21 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 4: good for the stability of lateral relations or for building 22 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 4: mutual trust. 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: Wang, a veteran diplomat, defended his country's actions on stemming 24 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: the flow of fentanyl to the United States and accused 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 3: Trump of using the issue as a pretext to pressure 26 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: the government. It marks a change in tone from China, 27 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 3: which had met this week's increase in US tariffs with 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: targeted actions. 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: President Trump, though, has delayed tariffs on goods from Mexico 30 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: and Canada covered by the North American Trade Agreement until 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: the second of April. The move to exempt at least 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: half of all goods from the new twenty five percent 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: levies offers a major reprieve to America's two largest trading partners, 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: who had signed the trade agreement with Trump in his 35 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: first term. We get more now from our senior policy 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: analyst from Blueberg Intelligence, Nathan Dean. 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 5: We're coining this a shock and oars strategy for tariffs, 38 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 5: where President Trump comes out here and says, look, this 39 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 5: is what I'm going to do. It's going to happen. 40 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 5: I'm not going to negotiate. And we saw this with Canada, Mexico, 41 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 5: tariffs are on, thirty day extension tariffs are on. Now 42 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 5: we're seeing the exemption from Mexico, so come April second, 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 5: which is the next major catalyst. Obviously there's potentially some 44 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 5: negotiations with Canada to go between then. 45 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: Nathan Dean pointing to the latest development in a frenzied 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: week that began with President Trump applying across the board 47 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: tariffs on Canada and Mexico, as well as doubling tariffs 48 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: on China to twenty percent. 49 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: The headlines on tariff sparked intense, quick and sharp swings 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: on the stock market and losses across the board. By 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: the end of the trading session on Wall Street, the 52 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: S and P five one hundreds slid by one point 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 3: eight percent, the NASDAK dropped by two point eight percent, 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 3: despite some tariff relief for Canada and Mexico. Speaking to 55 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: reporters in the Oval Office, President Trump was asked why 56 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 3: markets seemed so spooked by tariffs. 57 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 6: Well, a lot of them are globalist countries and companies 58 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 6: that won't be doing as well because we're taking back 59 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 6: things that have been taken from us many years ago. 60 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 6: We've been treated very unfairly as a country we protect everybody, 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 6: We do everything for all these countries, and a lot 62 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 6: of these are globalist in nature. 63 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 3: Trump's comments came as the NASDAK neared correction territory falling 64 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 3: by nine point six percent since its record high in February. 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: Crypto assets also dropped as Trump's executive order creating a 66 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: strategic bitcoin reserve fell short of industry expectations. 67 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 2: Volatile markets have been proving tricky for hedge funds to navigate, 68 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: with several top funds posting lack loss of a time 69 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: turns in February. Bloomberg's Human Pots has the details. 70 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 7: Analysts that JP Morgan say the volatility in late January 71 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 7: that persisted into February drove lots of questions around hedge 72 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 7: fund performance as market generations reverse momentum on key trade 73 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 7: and clobbered popular stocks, including many of the Magnificent Seven, Millennium, Citadel, 74 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 7: and other top hedge funds reported soggy returns during the month. 75 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 7: Bloomberg understands Jane Global fell about one percent, Millennium lost 76 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 7: one point three percent, and Citadel one point seven percent. 77 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 7: Losses were driven by overcrowding in a small group of 78 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 7: US stocks, particularly healthcare and technology hedge funders will be 79 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 7: hoping that this month doesn't see a repeat of what 80 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 7: JP Morgan called February's pockets of painful performance. I'm new 81 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 7: and pots Bloomberg Radio. 82 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: E leaders back to plan to reform their fiscal rules, 83 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: echoing Germany's defense push and potentially unlocking trillions of euros. 84 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: The spending serage comes as the continent comes to grips 85 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 3: with its vulnerability without American security guarantees. Defense officials heel Bloomberg, 86 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: a Russian invasion would breach frontlines in weeks without US support. 87 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: Francis President Emmanuel Macrar is a key voice calling for 88 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: re armament. 89 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 8: Sete jaku kuntu nudl manaci quaki that'd given the threat 90 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 8: and whatever happens in Ukraine, we need to increase our 91 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 8: defense capabilities and we need to build in the next 92 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 8: few years autonomous defense capabilities for Europeans. 93 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: Macrl has been trying to coordinate a European effort to 94 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: organize the Ukraine peace deal. European sources say President Donald 95 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 3: Trump wants to link his proposed US Ukraine minerals deal 96 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 3: to demands for Kiev to commit to a quick ceasefire 97 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: with Russia. 98 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: The European Central Bank is heading for tough negotiations as 99 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: policymakers differ strongly on where interest rates go next. The 100 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: ECB cut its base rate to two and a half 101 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: percent yesterday, as was widely predicted, but with a global 102 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: trade will brewing in trillions of euros being earmarked for 103 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 2: defense spending, both markets and policymakers are unsure whether to 104 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: cut interest rates further or hold steady. President Christine Laguard 105 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: relied on a central banker stock phrase when answering questions 106 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: about the outlook. 107 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: The collective view around the table is that we do 108 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: not precomit to a path and we will be as 109 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: ever and probably more so, data dependent. 110 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: Christine Lagard, that are talking about data dependency. She added 111 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: that the backdrop is changing dramatically day by day. The 112 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: year extended gains to hit the days high, while bonds 113 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: fell Following the ECB's statement. 114 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: The UK's Chancellor Rachel Reeves says welfare reforms are needed 115 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: to balance her budget. Downgraded growth forecasts and higher borrowing 116 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 3: costs of left Britain's government searching for more money. Head 117 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: of the Chancellor of Spring statement on the twenty sixth 118 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: of March. Reeves says the welfare system has to change 119 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: at the moment. 120 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 9: It's letting down tax players, letting down our economy because 121 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 9: there's too many people trapped on out of work benefits, 122 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 9: and it's letting down the people who are recipients of 123 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 9: benefits because they are trapped on benefits rather than actively 124 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 9: supported back into work. 125 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: The ch answer rachelieves they're speaking to Sky Newses Electoral 126 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: Dysfunction podcast. The Chancellor doubled down on her election pledge 127 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: not to raise income tax, national insurance or VAT. 128 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: Those are our top stories for you this morning. Now. 129 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: In terms of the markets, tarif uncertainty has really weighed 130 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: on the Wall Street session yesterday, and that continues into 131 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 2: Asia also with a Chinese official blasting the United States 132 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: for its policies. Looking at THEMSCI Asia Pacific indexites down 133 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,119 Speaker 2: nine tenths of one percent, the cside three hundred dropping 134 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: three tens across the board, losses, the K two two 135 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: five by two point two percent, the S and P 136 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 2: five hundred heading towards a third straight week of losses, 137 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: down three point six percent for this week so far, 138 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: magnificent seven shares below the two hundred day moving average. 139 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: The euro dollar euro has rallied significantly this week, and 140 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: we're up two tents this morning, twenty one to what 141 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: zero eight zero nine. European stock futures this morning are 142 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: down almost one four percent, and we have the US 143 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: non van paywalls dated to come and a speech from 144 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: Jerome pal So we'll look at those jobless figures a 145 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: bit later. 146 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: Well, in a moment, we'll bring you the latest on 147 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: how the latest moves from Donald Trump on tariffs's playing 148 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: out across market. But another story that caught our eye 149 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 3: this morning. I mean, if you're not worried about war, 150 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: for example, by some of our reporting, perhaps you're worried 151 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 3: more immediately about your retirement. 152 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: Do you get a retirement these days? 153 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: Well exactly, I mean that's the question that the survey 154 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: out of the United States is looking at. The shrinking 155 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: number of people that are actually expecting to retire on time, 156 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: and millions of Americans planning to extend their full time 157 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 3: work or part time workers simply never retire. This is 158 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 3: according to a report from the trans America Institute. Six 159 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: percent of workers who aren't self employed plan to retire 160 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: at seventy or older, more than half of those surveys, 161 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: so they plan to work in retirement. 162 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. I think if you've got an interesting job, 163 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 2: if you enjoy your job and maybe it brings you, 164 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: you know, a social life or interest and intellectual simulation, 165 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: that's super. But unfortunately cynical. A lot of people in 166 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: the UK, when you look at the surveys, don't often 167 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 2: enjoy their job. So I think that's tricky, isn't it. 168 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting, and I mean part of 169 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: this also is a financial question too. The you know, 170 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: if you look at how pension funds have performed in 171 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: the US versus the UK, the US funds have performed 172 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: much better over the past ten years, growth of around 173 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: six percent. In the UK, pension assets as a total 174 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 3: have actually been shrinking on average over the past ten years, 175 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: so perhaps financially the decision making process might be a 176 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 3: little bit different as well. 177 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, that feels like something for my generation, definitely. Okay, 178 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: So that's one interesting story that we've been thinking about today. 179 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: But we should also look at the market reaction to 180 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: the latest tariff headlines. Ronald Trump has delayed levies on 181 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: Mexico and Canada. Our market's Live strateges. Mary Nicola joins 182 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 2: us now for more. Mary, good morning. Should we still 183 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: of the equity markets? Talk us through what happened on 184 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 2: Wall Street yesterday as that news emerge, you know, such 185 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: quick changes on the Trump administration. How is it also 186 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: playing out in Asia today? 187 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that's where the problem comes in, is 188 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 10: the quick changes that we've been seeing, and so equity 189 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 10: markets are just showing signs of frustration given the ways 190 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 10: that we've seen in trade policies and the abrupt changes. 191 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 10: So it's just adding to the volatility, and there's also 192 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 10: the lack of clarity that's keeping investors on edge. But 193 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 10: then you're seeing this dischotomy coming through where that you're 194 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 10: seeing an expansion of fiscal policy in Europe and in China, 195 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 10: and that's setting it apart from the US and especially 196 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 10: highlighting that the US may actually be worse off than 197 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 10: the rest of the world. 198 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: Talk to us about how this is playing out in 199 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: tech shares in particular, because if we're looking at the 200 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 3: NASA on the verge of a correction. 201 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 10: Now, yeah, we have to remember how much investors were 202 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 10: in love with tech shares for so long, and how 203 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 10: valuations are quite expensive, So now that the resilience of 204 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 10: the US economy is coming into question, people are wondering 205 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 10: whether it's worth it holding these expensive stocks. So that's 206 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 10: going to continue to weigh on US tech. And of 207 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 10: course what's happening in the US on the policy front 208 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 10: is promoting portfolio diversification, and we're likely to continue to 209 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 10: see that, especially with how valuations are still quite expensive. 210 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: The relief from tariffs it did help to boost the 211 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: Mexican and Canadian currencies. We've also seen the Bloomberg Dollar 212 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: Spot index weekening for a fifth day in a row. 213 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: What's it doing to the currency story? 214 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think one thing that's become quite clear is 215 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 10: that we're just going to see heightened volatile especially in 216 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 10: the likes of the Mexican peso and Canadian and the 217 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 10: Canadian dollar, because as we're seeing is that all these 218 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 10: headlines are causing a knee jerk reaction. So on top 219 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 10: of that, the Canadian currency is also going to be 220 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 10: could have another could face another challenge with its own 221 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 10: jobs report later today, So forecasts are projecting an increase 222 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 10: in the unemployment rate, which of course may signal more 223 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 10: easing from the Central Bank next week. And that adds 224 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 10: to the pressure on the Canadian dollar. 225 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, indeed, I mean that payrolls report going to be 226 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 3: an interesting one to watch as well. Of course, always 227 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 3: a kind of key metric for markets to watch. But 228 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: in this moment of I suppose so much volatility elsewhere, 229 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 3: what are the sort of expectations we have around to 230 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: what we're expecting to see in the payrolls report. 231 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, so they're expecting a softer forecasts are for a 232 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:57,199 Speaker 10: softer payrolls report, and of course that is going to 233 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 10: be especially in focus with the narrative on you exceptionalism 234 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 10: heavily questioned. So the labor report is either going to 235 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 10: nullify it or verify it. And I think it would 236 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 10: be premature to make a determination on one month of data, 237 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 10: considering if we look back at the three month average 238 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 10: on hiring up to January, that's been pretty strong. But 239 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 10: there are clear headwinds that are emerging for stocks, and 240 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 10: given how vulnerable sentiment is right now, I think what 241 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 10: if we do see a soft payroll number, it would 242 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 10: just exacerbate the recent moves. 243 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: Okay, Also a word on bitcoin then trading around the 244 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: eighty eight thousand dollars mark, taking a hit over the 245 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 2: disappointment about President Trump's plans and the administration's plans for 246 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: a strategic stoppa of the cryptocurrency. What was the disappointment. 247 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, it was actually interesting to see the market reaction 248 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 10: because in many ways it actually could provide a long 249 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 10: term support because the bitcoin initially slid in response to 250 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 10: the executive order first bitcoin reserve, but it may but 251 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 10: the government is still able to buy bitcoin in the 252 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 10: future as long as it's budget neutral. So on the 253 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 10: back of that, it's not saying that it's not going 254 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 10: to buy anymore. It's just said as long as it's 255 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 10: budget neutral. But I also think it provides further credibility 256 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 10: to bitcoin with government support, which I think should actually 257 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 10: be a long term positive. 258 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: Okay, Mary Nicola, our Market's Life strategist, thank you very 259 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: much for joining us with all of those market moving stories. 260 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 3: Of course, the tariff story so central to what's been 261 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: happening in markets over the past number of weeks and 262 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 3: very interesting to just reflect for a moment on the 263 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 3: comments that we had out of the Chinese Foreign Ministry 264 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 3: Wangi talking about defending his country's actions on stemming the 265 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 3: flow of fentanyl to the US. This is of course 266 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 3: one of the key complaints that Donald Trump has, but 267 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: using some really strong language when it comes to how 268 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 3: Donald Trump is approaching the relationship with Chili. 269 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, calling the actions to face and effectively a pretext, 270 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: using fentanyl as a pretext to impose tariffs. The US 271 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: shouldn't return good with evil, that's a direct quote, or 272 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 2: even impose arbitrary tariffs on Chinese products. This from the 273 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: Foreign Minister Wang Yi. He is a veteran diplomat, he 274 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: is obviously well known. This is also a major form 275 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: so it does seem like a quite a deliberate change 276 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: in tone and rhetoric. You know, we've been talking about 277 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 2: how measured the Chinese government has been in the response 278 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 2: to tariffs that were implemented. I'll remind you only at 279 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: the start of this week the additional tariffs from the 280 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: Trump administration, and this was at the National People's Congress, 281 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: which is the major political gathering of the year. 282 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: And while we've seen this flurry of diplomatic activity from 283 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 3: Mexico and Canada to try and delay or to ease 284 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: some of those tariff threats, we haven't it's worth pointing 285 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: out seen those talks taking place for between China and 286 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: the US. Trumpet signal this desire to speak with President 287 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: Shootingking before that first wave of tarists kicked in, but 288 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: they haven't had a call since the US leader return 289 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: to office. 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