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Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling Railvaly.

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Speaker 2: No, no, sibling, rail You don't do that with your mouth, Revelry.

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Speaker 3: That's good.

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Speaker 1: We have a guest, Ben Sanderson in the waiting room

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Speaker 1: right now. He was a product sperm donation, and you know,

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Speaker 1: was fortunate enough, I guess, at the age of eighteen

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Speaker 1: to actually figure out how many siblings he has and

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Speaker 1: what a trip.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not t i'd want to know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I would. I'm too curious. I probably would. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's strange. Anyway, let's bring me. Let's talk. Hi, Oliver,

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Speaker 1: how are you brother?

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Speaker 3: How good? How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. What's happening?

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Speaker 3: Nothing? Happy, belated birthday?

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Look at all those playbills up there. Let

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Speaker 1: me guess I know you're an actor.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, I.

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Speaker 1: Am I you're an actor.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all around my room, like the whole perimeter.

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Speaker 1: Now are these plays that you have been to? I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming been to or been in?

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Speaker 3: Okay, most of them have been to some of them

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Speaker 3: have been.

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Speaker 1: In Yeah, what heights have we reached? Have we been

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Speaker 1: on Broadway?

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Speaker 3: No? No, I'm nineteen, okay, but I do work professionally

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Speaker 3: mainly during the summer because I am a student.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So give me your story, man, Like what happened?

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Speaker 1: How did this happen? You know, as far as you

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Speaker 1: being curious, even because I guess it could go both ways.

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Speaker 1: I mean, in your sort of research of who your

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Speaker 1: siblings might be, I'm assuming you found a lot that

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Speaker 1: are very curious about their siblings and their bloodline, and

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Speaker 1: then others who just don't want to know a thing, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, Well, you know, every person is different, and

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Speaker 3: we all have very different I don't know boundaries. We

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Speaker 3: all have very different stories. Like my story that everyone

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Speaker 3: has been resonating with is one of forty or one

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Speaker 3: of forty one. We all have different stories. We all

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Speaker 3: come from very different backgrounds, so we all are very

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Speaker 3: different in terms of like what this means to us.

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Speaker 3: For me, I embrace all of this with a like

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Speaker 3: open arms. I'm so public about being donor conceived, I'm

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Speaker 3: so public about having forty siblings, But a lot of

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Speaker 3: my siblings are very private about it. Yeah, they're siblings.

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Speaker 3: I've never met their siblings I have met. Yeah, it

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Speaker 3: really depends for me. I am just oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I love talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Have you become tight with anyone, any of them that

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Speaker 1: you've met.

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Speaker 3: I'd say so, like, I'd say yeah, like we talk

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Speaker 3: often a lot digitally.

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Speaker 1: So how does this all happen? You know? Meaning at

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Speaker 1: eighteen years old is when you are able to look

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Speaker 1: into all of this legally correct? Yes.

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Speaker 3: So I was raised by my single game mom, and

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Speaker 3: she told me from the womb that I was don't

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Speaker 3: a conceit. I don't know how she would lie about it,

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Speaker 3: but because because like you had ad he ran like

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Speaker 3: I mean, she was. She has been so supportive of

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Speaker 3: all this since the beginning, and I always knew I

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Speaker 3: was just right.

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Speaker 1: And I was.

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Speaker 3: Told I don't think it's in law, but I think

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Speaker 3: it's in regulations with the sperm bank. It might be

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Speaker 3: done right now, but at least I was told, when

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Speaker 3: you turn eighteen, you can go looking for your half siblings.

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Speaker 3: My donor donated anonymously, so I thought I was gonna die,

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Speaker 3: never knowing his name, not never knowing what he looked like.

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Speaker 3: But I always wanted to look for my half something.

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Speaker 3: So it was about a year ago during the summer.

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Speaker 3: It was during May of twenty twenty three, when I

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Speaker 3: haven't actually shared this with anyone. I was doing a

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Speaker 3: production of Into the Woods. The playbill is right there,

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Speaker 3: Into the Woods, and I was playing one of the princes.

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Speaker 3: I was playing Cinderella's parents and in the show, he

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Speaker 3: has a brother. And it was like week three of rehearsal,

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Speaker 3: and oh god, this sounds so geeky, but I was like,

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Speaker 3: has a brother, Like what does that mean. I was like, well,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't have a brother. And I

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Speaker 3: was like, wait, oh my god, I do have probably

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Speaker 3: me trying to connect with a character, right, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: like siblings. If you're listening to this, I love you

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Speaker 3: so much. And that's and it was a dream fund you,

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Speaker 3: but that's how it started out. I was like, wait,

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Speaker 3: I want to like connect to having a brother. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what that's like. Wait I could maybe know

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Speaker 3: what that's like. So I called my mom and I

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Speaker 3: was like, hey, Mom, you know how I probably have

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Speaker 3: half siblings. And we logged onto the donor I don't

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Speaker 3: know website and there was contact information for one of

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Speaker 3: my sisters from like ten years ago, and she manually

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Speaker 3: had like written an email and I was like, I

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Speaker 3: don't even know if this is gonna work, and so

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Speaker 3: I emailed the email. I was like, Hi, name's Ben,

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Speaker 3: I'm based in LA. I'm eighteen. I felt like I

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Speaker 3: was submitting for audition. I was like, after, here's my Instagram.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm your brother. I get a DM. The

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Speaker 3: next day, I was hanging out with my friends Lucy

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Speaker 3: and Me, and I was like, oh my god, Oh

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Speaker 3: my god, I just got a DM from my sister.

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Speaker 3: And they're like, what you're annoy child. I'm like I

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Speaker 3: thought so too, but no, I'm not anymore. So I

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Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I have a sister, and I connected

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Speaker 3: and I went to sleep being like cool, I have

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Speaker 3: a sister. Then I wake up and or it might

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Speaker 3: have been later that day or something where I get

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Speaker 3: a bunch of follow requests on Instagram and their mutuals

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Speaker 3: with my sister. I'm like, oh, my sister told her

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Speaker 3: friends about me cool like new friends, and I'm pictures

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Speaker 3: told them about me, and that turned out to be

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Speaker 3: the case, and one of them, one of a new sister,

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Speaker 3: sister seventeen, reached out to me and she was like,

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Speaker 3: so nice to me. We should I should id you

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Speaker 3: to our group chat of all of us. And she

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Speaker 3: was like, before I add you, do you know how

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Speaker 3: many there are of us? So it's like, oh, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, but like you know, like Max ten right,

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Speaker 3: and she was like, oh, maybe.

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Speaker 1: But there's forty of us.

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Speaker 3: I was in a restaurant when I found that out.

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Speaker 3: I was in a restaurant. I probably had just ordered

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Speaker 3: like chicken tenders or something, and then I found out

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Speaker 3: a forty siblings.

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Speaker 1: That's just crazy. I mean, that's how do you process that,

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Speaker 1: especially the younger age where it's like, holy.

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Speaker 3: Funny, I'm also the youngest of all of them. Oh

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Speaker 3: really yeah, I'm the youngest of all of them. And

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Speaker 3: she told me that. She was like I think she

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Speaker 3: said something like, well, if you don't have any siblings

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Speaker 3: you make forty one, Like, I'm oh, my god, Oliver.

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Speaker 1: I was so excited.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't overwhelmed at all. I was so excited. And

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Speaker 3: then I was added to the group chat and we

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Speaker 3: talked on there for hours. And one of my siblings

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Speaker 3: had actually a couple of years ago tracked.

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Speaker 1: Down our donor.

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Speaker 3: What's his name, and you know, pictures of him and

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Speaker 3: his email, and they told me like, yeah, like some

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Speaker 3: I didn't email him right away, emailed him a couple

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Speaker 3: months later he back. And yet once in a while

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Speaker 3: we'll just email. I haven't I haven't met him yet.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to.

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Speaker 1: How old is he?

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure. I try and keep, you know, like

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Speaker 3: private because they're a lot more private about all this

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Speaker 1: But I actually don't know. Wow. And then how did

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Speaker 1: your mom deal with all of it? Obviously she seemed

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Speaker 1: very She's like a very supportive woman. It feels like

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Speaker 3: She's so supportive of all of this. A lot of

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Speaker 3: My mom denies this, but I would bet my life

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Speaker 3: I have forty siblings. I bet my life. But the

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Speaker 3: first thing she said was, oh, be I don't have

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Speaker 3: did not say that. I promisedly.

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Speaker 1: She said, I'm going to.

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Speaker 3: Get a text after she listens to this and be like, be,

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Speaker 3: I did not say that, but then she and then

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Speaker 3: she agrees to that. She said that, well, we'll just

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Speaker 3: add more chairs to thanks she she loves all of this,

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Speaker 3: she does, Yeah, all of it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Wow. And do you have like ethical feelings about these

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Speaker 1: sort of situations, you know, where one sperm donor can

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Speaker 1: it's almost because you're hearing the story more and more

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Speaker 1: that they have like nine thousand siblings because of one

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Speaker 1: I know it's fun and exciting, but yeah, it's totally

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Speaker 3: Two things can be true at the same time. It's

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Speaker 3: amazing that I am the youngest sibling of forty people.

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Speaker 3: And obviously I'm not an expert. I'm just a person

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Speaker 3: with an opinion. But I think that donor anonymity, which

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Speaker 3: is like what my donor did, like he donated anonymously

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Speaker 3: can we really can't keep it a secret anymore. It's

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Speaker 3: a huge Like back in the day, the sperm banks

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Speaker 3: least the sperm banks would tell parents who were using sperm,

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Speaker 3: don't tell your kids their donor conceived. That was something they.

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Speaker 1: Advised, really, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because they didn't they didn't really know how it

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Speaker 3: was gonna go. There's a TikToker named Laura High who

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Speaker 3: I've actually talked to. She is an expert on all

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Speaker 3: of it. She's donor conceived as well. She's in the

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Speaker 3: entertainment business as well. Everyone listening to go check her

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Speaker 3: out on TikTok. But a lot of donor can see

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Speaker 3: people don't know their donor conceived and that's really dangerous.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the crux of the issues. That's really dangerous.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I'm so open about being don't conceived

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Speaker 3: to like kind of break the taboo, because it's still

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Speaker 3: a really taboo thing. If you don't know, you're don't conceived,

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Speaker 1: And the other the other thing too is you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not seeing I'm not I'm thinking.

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Speaker 1: I know, well you seem to love it. You know.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the sister one is nine, years older than Wow.

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Speaker 1: What about physical? Like? Have you did you guys look alike?

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Speaker 3: sound the same. We have the same speaking voice and

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00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: I mean pretty similar, and we have the same laugh.

438
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 3: And that was crazy because I had never heard him

439
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 3: talk the first eighteen years of my life or or laugh.

440
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 3: So the fact that that's genetic, he is crazy. And

441
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 3: just the way he not even how how he sounds

442
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 3: me he talks about the way he talks and you know,

443
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 3: the way his humor. It was so me and that

444
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: was so crazy. I feel like that's circling back. That's

445
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 3: what a lot of parents of don't can see. People

446
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 3: like fear like, well, what if they just turned out

447
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 3: just like they're biological father. It's like, okay, so what

448
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 3: Like I know who picked me up from school, I

449
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: know who the Christmas presents, I know who was there

450
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: when I said my first word, when I you know,

451
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: walked the first time. So yeah, do I have similar

452
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: cadences to my father's.

453
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: Sure? But I love my mom. She's my favorite person ever,

454
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: and she was She was single when she bought you.

455
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: I guess, like it's so strange to say, yeah, saying that.

456
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 3: I was like, what's funny? Yeah, and she's still single.

457
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: So it's literally just been me and her this whole time.

458
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 3: So my family went from one person to forty one.

459
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: So she's never been in a relationship since you guys

460
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: have since you've been around on the earth, it's always

461
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: been you and her.

462
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: Married Wow, yeah, so it's slowly just been me and her.

463
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: So what was that like? You know, sort of when

464
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: you're young, when you're a baby. When you're an infant,

465
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: you know no better, and you only start to sort

466
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: of understand how other people might live as you get

467
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: older and you're witnessing it. Did you have that moment

468
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: of like, wait a minute, something's different here.

469
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 3: I remember I know exactly where I was in my

470
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 3: neighborhood in La. I was being driven home from preschool.

471
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: I know exactly where I was when I was like, hey, mom,

472
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: how come all my other classmates have some big man

473
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: picking him up and I don't have one? And I

474
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 3: remember what she said. It just stuck with me. She

475
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 3: was like, well, be every family looks different some people

476
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 3: some some kids have two dads, some kids have one mom,

477
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: Some kids have a mom and a dad. Some some

478
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: kids have two sets of parents. Some kids are raised

479
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: by their grandma. Just every family looks different. Curtain. I

480
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 3: was like okay, And that stuck with me, like for years,

481
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: and I just remember, like, you know, it's La. I'd

482
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 3: see gay parents and then a kid walking down the

483
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 3: street and I wouldn't think anything happened. It was completely

484
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: normal to me. I remember when it was like fourth

485
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: grade and kids would be like like I would be like,

486
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: I don't have a dad. And kids would be like, uh,

487
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: that's not possible. Everyone has a dad. And I remember

488
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: thinking I was so smart because I was like, these idiots,

489
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: I don't have it. I'm smarter than them. You don't

490
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 3: have to have a dad. And then it was like

491
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: middle school was like wait, I think everyone has a dad.

492
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 3: I remember like sex classes in sixth grade and I

493
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: was like, wait, I know there's something up with a

494
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: sperm bank. I think is what it's called. I was

495
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 3: learning about sex. I was like, I think it was

496
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: like once a year. I checked with my mom, was like, wait,

497
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 3: I'm not adopted, right. I felt like a normal kid always.

498
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: I think that was an adult hearing how much my

499
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: story resonates with people. What makes me like, go, wait,

500
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: am I different? Not in a bad way, but like this,

501
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 3: this dynamic is special.

502
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: I guess no, Yeah, well no, it's true. I mean

503
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: you you know, with a platform like you have and

504
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: with it sort of blowing up the way that it did,

505
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: you are sort of giving people comfort with your story.

506
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You You know, I've been

507
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: through gnarly anxiety through my life, and you know I'm

508
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: on lexapro and yeah, it's just that you just battle

509
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: with it and it's not debilitating necessarily, and you know

510
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: cerebrally that there are other people dealing with the same shit,

511
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: if not worse, that you are dealing with, similar to

512
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: maybe what you know the people that you are speaking to.

513
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: But when you connect with someone who is actually feeling

514
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: the anxiety, who is going through the same thing that

515
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: you're going through, and you're actually connecting with that person

516
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: and talking to them and not hearing their story, there

517
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: you do you do feel, you know, some weight that

518
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: can be lifted off. You know you're not alone. Even

519
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: though you know you're not alone, it has to be tangible,

520
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: and I think that's what your story has done for

521
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know.

522
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also think I didn't think about this when

523
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 3: I was posting it. I was just, first of all,

524
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 3: all of this happened. I was doing a summerstock contract

525
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: this summer. I was in a state I've never lived

526
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: in in my life, and I literally just posted the

527
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: video and then went to rehearsal and I was like,

528
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 3: it's my phone like heating up. I think that I

529
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: didn't think about when I posted it. A lot of

530
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: people resonate with what I had to say one because

531
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,479
Speaker 3: it's crazy, but two, a lot of people comment, I

532
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 3: love how happy you are about this? I love they

533
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: love how excited I am about all this, how happy

534
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: I am. And it's just I think it's a breath

535
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: of fresh air because a lot of people say, like

536
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: all news is bad news, like everyone just wants gossip,

537
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: and you know tragedies sell better. But to me, this

538
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: is a happy story beginning. Mill and I have a

539
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 3: great mom. I had a great first eighteen years of

540
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: my life. And when I found these forty people and

541
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: they're amazing too, and it's just and I found him

542
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 3: when I literally thought I never would ever And it's

543
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: just a happy story anything. People resonate with that. And

544
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 3: so I think if you're if you're someone who is

545
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: like a miner and you know you're don't conceived and

546
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: you can't go reaching out for people yet, to people yet,

547
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 3: if they see my video, they'd be like, oh, like this,

548
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 3: there might be a happy ending just like this.

549
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: Yep.

550
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 3: Might not have forty some right, but it could be great.

551
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: A lesson to is bigger life lesson you just didn't.

552
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: You have to embrace where you are, Embrace who you are,

553
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: Embrace your story. Everyone's story is different, and everyone's story

554
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: is forever shifting and changing, you know. I mean you

555
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: think about sort of your life up until the point

556
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: that you realize, holy fuck, I've got forty one siblings,

557
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, So we can't change what exists, what is

558
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: actually happening. So why not embrace it, you know, good

559
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: and bad. That's the lesson.

560
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: I have a question. Yeah, a lot of people ask me,

561
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: and it doesn't make any sense to me, but they're like,

562
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: do you view your siblings as you know, like the

563
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: same as siblings you grew up with? And I'm like,

564
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: well no, because I didn't grow up with them. They're

565
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 3: like not what I mean? Like, like, do you view

566
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: them the way other.

567
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: People view their siblings?

568
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 3: And I don't know, Like I don't know what that's like. So, like,

569
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: you growing up with Kate, how do you how do

570
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: you view her now as an adult? Now that you

571
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 3: were both adults? I mean you adults for all time,

572
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: but you're both adults. How has growing up with her

573
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 3: changed your relationship? Because for me, literally like you and Kate,

574
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: except we didn't grow up with you.

575
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: I guess the difference is is that we were born

576
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: two and a half years apart and spent our entire

577
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: childhood growing up together. So you're going to sort of

578
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: go through all of the ups and downs of what

579
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: it is to be a sibling, and again, circumstances are

580
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 1: going to dictate that your relationship as well. You know,

581
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: we were in my parents were in a divorce, and

582
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: I was sort of fending for myself in a way,

583
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: meaning like with my own emotions. I didn't have the

584
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: capacity to be a good big brother to her when

585
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: she just needed love from me. But I was I

586
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: was inequipped. I couldn't do it, you know, because I

587
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: was sort of just trying to protect myself in that moment.

588
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 1: And then I didn't like her. And she was always

589
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: fabulous and performing and look at me shit and da

590
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: da da dah, which of course is what made her

591
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: a star, you know, and I was like Jesus Kate,

592
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: just like relax. But we have now become sort of

593
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: best of friends. You know, it's been years since we

594
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: have been but you know, she became famous, she married Chris,

595
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: they were off doing their thing. We were we had

596
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: lived sort of separate lives, you know, we were still connected,

597
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: but it wasn't that tight tight, tight sibling bond, you know.

598
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: And then years ago it's just sort of happened where

599
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: we matured into our relation relationship, you know what I mean,

600
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: and then we became best friends. But the other the

601
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 1: beauty of it too is you can go weeks without

602
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: talking and it's okay, you know, we it's that connected

603
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: that I love you good, You're good, We're good, all right, cool,

604
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, and then two weeks later we have a

605
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: really beautiful conversation. You know, there's that comfortability. So to

606
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: answer your question, I mean, it would be fun for

607
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:32,399
Speaker 1: you to find someone that you really connect with and

608
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: bring that person into your life, you know what I mean,

609
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: and have a true sibling relationship if you so desire it,

610
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: of course, because it's there, that blood is there, and

611
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: the connection is there, and then it's just about sort

612
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: of nurturing it and wanting to have a human contact

613
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: connection with one or two of You're forty one. I

614
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: have a similar story. I mean, I gotta I've told

615
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: the story on my podcast. But I get a note

616
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: under my door I come home. It's like, it says

617
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: his name, please call me. I have some information about

618
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 1: your father. I'm like, what the fuck? Okay, long, long

619
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: story short, this dude turns out to be my half

620
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: brother because my dad, you know, he was given up

621
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: for adoption at a very young age. And he contacted

622
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: me and I, you know, five, ten, six years ago,

623
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, I have a half brother

624
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: that I didn't know about. He looks like it's like

625
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: six years ago this happened. He looks like me. He

626
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: looks like my dad, you know. And then I met

627
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: his son, you know, who's like my nephew or yeah,

628
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: and so it's just it's crazy and it's cool as shit,

629
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: you know.

630
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: So I have Yeah, so that story with your half brother.

631
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 3: It's me times and that's my situation. If you're trying

632
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: and put yourself in.

633
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: My it's crazy. It's crazy. But yeah, I mean it

634
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: would be fun to like connect with someone or you're

635
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: in Indiana. Now where do you live live?

636
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: I live live in LA.

637
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you have siblings who are in La. No,

638
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: not really really, you know, I mean, do you connect

639
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: with a few more than others or have like that

640
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: bond you know? Yeah?

641
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love all of them like we're family.

642
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 3: Like I love all of them. They're I sister. Seventeen.

643
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: We get on FaceTime, we'll talk about any well. I

644
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: literally will just call her up. She'll answer to call me.

645
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 3: I'll answer, oh my god. Like we just we match

646
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: each other.

647
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so fun, dude. I mean you

648
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: have forty one siblings. Like someone, it's like all you

649
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: can eat whatever. If you're going through something, you're a psychologist,

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Speaker 1: let me call you or you can. Yeah. Congratulations, this

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Speaker 1: is very cool. You are now part of a massive,

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Speaker 1: massive family I know. And uh, good luck, dude.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever see me on the sidewalk in l A.

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Speaker 1: I will you too, and good luck, good luck with

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Speaker 1: your career and and uh, you know, I hope to

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Speaker 1: see you on the stage on the screen someday, someday. No, no,

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Speaker 1: you got to go to school, buddy, You gotta go. Brother,