Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey you guys,
Speaker 1: here we are on the nine o two one OMG
Speaker 1: podcast with my best friend and my new bestie. It
Speaker 1: is Jenny Garth and I'm Tori Spelling and Hi, Hi beautiful.
Speaker 1: How are you fine? Ladies? How how is everybody? That's
Speaker 1: my question? Good? I love on our zoom. I don't
Speaker 1: know if your zoom is like this, but mine right
Speaker 1: now it's sis. You're just like you're a book ended
Speaker 1: by two blondes. Just love it. You know, I have
Speaker 1: highlights in my hair but you can't see them. I
Speaker 1: want to, but I just love that. I feel like
Speaker 1: you could go even more. We'll talk about it for summer.
Speaker 1: I have been almost your guys this color. I did
Speaker 1: it once and it was crazy, but it was just
Speaker 1: so much of an upkeep. But how did you feel?
Speaker 1: Do you feel blonds have more fun? I think do?
Speaker 1: I think that blondes do have more fun. I know,
Speaker 1: I think blonds do have more fun, for sure, but
Speaker 1: I think brunettes get taken more seriously. That's interesting. I
Speaker 1: believe she's right. I think you stand out of your
Speaker 1: blonde you know, it's like brunettes can kind of just
Speaker 1: like I can hide in the crowd of people and
Speaker 1: like you do not really go notice, but if your
Speaker 1: blonde hair, you kind of stand out just staying maybe
Speaker 1: so yeah, but I just I colored my hair totally
Speaker 1: dark ones and I wasn't a fan. You weren't a fan.
Speaker 1: But I was a fan because I could go anywhere
Speaker 1: and not be recognized and people actually what I was
Speaker 1: saying instead of what looking at me? That's it was crazy,
Speaker 1: really weird. Like we can just put a bag over
Speaker 1: your head and then you can talk to people. You
Speaker 1: have to change your hair. Hey, that wouldn't draw any
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Speaker 1: You guys, should we just do it? I've been waiting
Speaker 1: for this. That's a major episode in the history of
Speaker 1: nine o two and now this is it. This is
Speaker 1: a big one. I think so too. This is episode ten.
Speaker 1: It's called Isn't it mantic and it aired on January.
Speaker 1: Tell him what it's about. Well, while Brandon is wary,
Speaker 1: Jim is definitely opposed to the growing attraction between Brenda
Speaker 1: and Dylan. Now that's a storyline, But the b storyline
Speaker 1: is it's sex said people, sex s everybody's favorite subjective
Speaker 1: and a really fun Steve Sanders. It's such a Steve Yeah,
Speaker 1: with a twist. We see a sweet seat, a sweet
Speaker 1: side of Steve in this episode. I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it when it gets all sentimental and gooey. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the episode opens up with Brandon and Dylan working
Speaker 1: on the car and did they have to be that grease?
Speaker 1: I was like, why so much grease? What are they doing?
Speaker 1: I didn't mind seeing Dylan McKay covered in Greece. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, but it was I felt like Brandon
Speaker 1: had like one grease smear on his shoulder, Am I wrong? No?
Speaker 1: And then like one space his arms, his shirt, his front,
Speaker 1: his back from it was like he was, yeah, drug
Speaker 1: behind something compared to Dylan. Well, no matter what, a
Speaker 1: man in Greece is hot though, and Dylan has to
Speaker 1: shower at the washes. Oh my gosh. It was the
Speaker 1: first of many shower scenes. I'm sure. I mean it's
Speaker 1: instant flirting between them too. They had been flirting for
Speaker 1: so many episodes, have they really? I felt like this
Speaker 1: came so far. I felt the same way the last Yeah, really,
Speaker 1: I felt like there was some one, but this one
Speaker 1: was just like, here's the story. It was kind of
Speaker 1: like we've seen it, like the Wall shows, like when
Speaker 1: Cindy had her almost a fair like all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it was like we didn't know the back story, but
Speaker 1: something major was happening. It felt that way a little
Speaker 1: bit with Brendan Dylan, like all of a sudden, it
Speaker 1: was like it was on, but we didn't know it
Speaker 1: at already been started. Really a gong. It was on
Speaker 1: the like Donkey dog well. So we yeah, we flip
Speaker 1: floped between the whole Brenda Dylan storyline and the sex
Speaker 1: ed storyline. So what should we talk about first? Should
Speaker 1: we just stick with the bridge that out or should
Speaker 1: we go back and forth? Okay, Brenda and Dylan, Um,
Speaker 1: first of all, when they go on their well, first
Speaker 1: they have that like three threesome days like her and
Speaker 1: her brother and you know, uh Dylan, and then out
Speaker 1: and listen to the c ds, you know those like things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we used to do back in the day.
Speaker 1: Not a record, but a c D Uh. Yeah, where
Speaker 1: did those go? By the way, do you guys still
Speaker 1: have CDs? I do you know what? I still have
Speaker 1: them in the garage and I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: I just need to throw them away. At this I
Speaker 1: went from like having them to having them in like
Speaker 1: a binder, taking all the cases out and just keeping
Speaker 1: the CD and put him in Like didn't you probably
Speaker 1: I's gone. I got right. Found a cassette you guys
Speaker 1: of a compilation of all the nine two songs used
Speaker 1: WHOA Like? I have it, like the O G songs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was from I don't know I have I have
Speaker 1: the cassette. I don't know where I can play it,
Speaker 1: but I have it. I also have a cassette track
Speaker 1: of um of you Me, Shannon and Christina Leice doing
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, we know, but we can't sing it.
Speaker 1: When you guys wore the black dresses breaking up this deleted?
Speaker 1: Yeah hard to do. Yeah, we had we had to
Speaker 1: reenact that in beach and that. That was a scurry night.
Speaker 1: A lot of feelings came back I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I was like, god, I don't I don't want to
Speaker 1: slick my hair back. That was fine when I was
Speaker 1: a teenager, but now I don't want to do No
Speaker 1: one wants to see that. But we did it with
Speaker 1: the help of wine. You me and Shannon had wine.
Speaker 1: That helped. But I, yeah, go back to just me,
Speaker 1: to what you're saying. I feel like for me, it
Speaker 1: came like who like fast and I all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Brenda and Dylan were holding hands as they leave. They
Speaker 1: walk into the to the hotel room where his dad
Speaker 1: is and I didn't see that. I didn't see them
Speaker 1: getting to that yet. I don't know which. Maybe everything
Speaker 1: is just intense, so toxic from the get go. That
Speaker 1: but he's such a bad boy, such the boy that
Speaker 1: every girl is like I want him. I don't want him, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like bad but exactly emotionally available or a little
Speaker 1: bit too available, But that's my kind of guy. He
Speaker 1: breaks the pot and she has she's so scared. Oh,
Speaker 1: she runs so fast, but he catches her with with
Speaker 1: the with like some violent action there. He's like grabs her,
Speaker 1: flips a around, and then they make out. Because that's
Speaker 1: what you do and that makeout though, did you notice
Speaker 1: like he really does like go in at such a
Speaker 1: different time, Like he goes in and he has his
Speaker 1: hand on her neck and then around her waist and
Speaker 1: it's just so like, Yeah, I felt that was a
Speaker 1: good chemistry in that kissing scene. Yeah, I felt it,
Speaker 1: and I felt it a lot. Is that weird? No?
Speaker 1: I think every girl you're getting Are you guys getting
Speaker 1: antsy for when we get to your kissing scenes? Probably? Probably? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's in here describing this when he grabs her neck
Speaker 1: and he goes in, there's so much chemistry multissect rs
Speaker 1: don't worry, like they definitely used tongue right, you guys said,
Speaker 1: are you sure? But I just felt like that kiss
Speaker 1: wasn't it feel like the characters would have. And I
Speaker 1: also felt like after that scene, after Brenda decides that
Speaker 1: she's in love, there's just a new pep in her step,
Speaker 1: And I like, in love Brenda, she's so happy and
Speaker 1: like jubilant, you know, there's like a new energy about her.
Speaker 1: And I thought that was really cool to see that.
Speaker 1: In other areas, like she was in her sex said
Speaker 1: class with Steve, she was just more playful and not
Speaker 1: as serious or dramatic for a minute, you know. I
Speaker 1: love that. And then Kelly, But Kelly is just all
Speaker 1: about like it's going to happen. It's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like they had what one day, two dates?
Speaker 1: I know, okay, that's the thing. Holding hands is one thing, okay,
Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, they're just under the
Speaker 1: assumption that they're going to be happened sexy time. Are
Speaker 1: they under the assumption or Kelly was just like pushing it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, in a good way. She was
Speaker 1: like to be prepared, which was great. But they had
Speaker 1: one date and a threesome date with her brother, Like
Speaker 1: that's it stopped going a threesome date with her brother. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt like it. I don't know. I just as
Speaker 1: a mom of teens makes me a little more when
Speaker 1: they go so fast, because I'm a little old fashioned
Speaker 1: in my thinking, maybe not so much in my actions,
Speaker 1: but um like, yeah, I'm a little fashioned, and watching it,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, why so soon? But then Brenda
Speaker 1: at the end of episode, she kind of slows things down,
Speaker 1: which I really respected. Definitely, the the makeout scene, the
Speaker 1: couch in her living room, of her parents house was intense.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're going to get way more intense though, right,
Speaker 1: Like this is nothing good one for teenager? That was
Speaker 1: a lot. Why didn't they go out the front door?
Speaker 1: Had they not gone out the back door? He always
Speaker 1: comes in the front door. Duh, right out the back door.
Speaker 1: I mean it makes sense in my mind, But grab
Speaker 1: your jacket one time, like they couldn't. They just sat
Speaker 1: there and picked up a book and pretended to pretend
Speaker 1: that they were reading. I mean, she didn't cook in
Speaker 1: her shirt. That's what drove me mad. Is I quickly
Speaker 1: would have tucked in the shirt. Dad giveaway. Brenda never
Speaker 1: wears her shirts out with her jean shorts. Have you
Speaker 1: guys ever, um you know like been um maybe kissing
Speaker 1: a boy or or something, and um, your parents walked
Speaker 1: in on you when you were younger or you got
Speaker 1: busted like that somehow. I did have a rowdy eight
Speaker 1: birthday party that there was some drinking at and my
Speaker 1: dad was so against it and he was almost just
Speaker 1: like I want nothing to do with this, Like he
Speaker 1: basically left it all up to my mom. And he's
Speaker 1: like he was just like pissed about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: In general, and he went into his office at some
Speaker 1: point in the night and one of my friends. He
Speaker 1: caught one of my friends with her boyfriend on his
Speaker 1: couch in our home his home office, and it was
Speaker 1: just so bad. He turns on the light, get downstairs.
Speaker 1: I did. I did come home once, and it was
Speaker 1: just in the back of a boy's car and there
Speaker 1: was just some petting. Petting to people say petting, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I just what does that mean? Like he
Speaker 1: put your hair or your head touching. There was some touching.
Speaker 1: I don't know the basses, you guys, but it was nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing below the base. Let's just put it that way. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you. But I did, I guess take my top
Speaker 1: off and put it back on and then ah, wow,
Speaker 1: bra state on the way off. I'm not sure. Okay, fine,
Speaker 1: now you're embarrassing me. Yes. And I did come home
Speaker 1: because I had to be home by curfew. I always
Speaker 1: had the earliest curfew, so like eleven PM, you have
Speaker 1: to be home. My friends were like, we can say
Speaker 1: it later. It's like whatever. So I came home and
Speaker 1: my mom was like, your t shirts on inside out?
Speaker 1: Oh noticed it. I'd like, you know, a little liked
Speaker 1: on and Doc Martin's and my T shirt on inside
Speaker 1: out and she noticed it. And I was like, you
Speaker 1: were mad at Brenda for not tucking her shirt in? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because PTSD. So I was like, why did Brenda get
Speaker 1: on it? Yes? Mm hmm. And no matter what you say, parents, no,
Speaker 1: they just know, just like Jim Walsh, like, do you
Speaker 1: take me for stupid or what do you say? Like
Speaker 1: they know? Yeah, they do, they do. I just assume
Speaker 1: every time my daughter comes home and she's been making
Speaker 1: out with her boyfriend, Yeah, makes it better in your head?
Speaker 1: And I'm not like, you know, I'm not pretending you
Speaker 1: just accept it. Does that make it easier for you
Speaker 1: or for her? Or for both? Probably both, I would
Speaker 1: imagine instead of me, you know, looking at her like
Speaker 1: she's an alien and grilling her. But I never got
Speaker 1: caught um that I can recall in with a with
Speaker 1: a guy that young. No, I know. My my husband
Speaker 1: said that he walked in on his sister once and
Speaker 1: they were doing it and yeah he saw that scarden.
Speaker 1: I think how old was here? He was like twelve,
Speaker 1: I like twelve and eleven twelves and like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's something you can't remove from your brain. Mm hmmmm.
Speaker 1: So when it's your sister. Yeah, I was really uncomfortable
Speaker 1: when Brandon was watching then, like be all flirty and
Speaker 1: touchy and I totally Brandon. If that's Brandon's buddy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a hard one. I would be so awkward. I
Speaker 1: got to say, like, up until now, we haven't really
Speaker 1: seen that connection as brother and sister. And this is
Speaker 1: the episode where he came in and like was all
Speaker 1: fired up to Dylan. Then he didn't show up, he
Speaker 1: didn't call her. Yeah, he's so he was so pretty
Speaker 1: and then and then he went just a little too far.
Speaker 1: He just took it a little too far and said
Speaker 1: she's a virgin right there in the science room. I
Speaker 1: thought that was a little t m. I yeah, well, well,
Speaker 1: speaking of virginity, sex ad was another topic. Um, I
Speaker 1: think we should take a break and come back and
Speaker 1: reveal when you guys had the talk about Hi, you guys,
Speaker 1: welcome back before break. We were just about to get
Speaker 1: into it. Um, sex ad. This episode B storyline, it's
Speaker 1: all about sex ad, the consent forms. Um, you guys, wait,
Speaker 1: first of all, did you have this in school? Second
Speaker 1: of all, what age did you have the talk? The
Speaker 1: talk or did you didn't? Does anyone have the proper
Speaker 1: talk anymore? I never got the talk from my mom
Speaker 1: mm hmmm, because probably I would shut her down. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, I'm good, I we're fine. I know, you
Speaker 1: know what's good. I'm I don't need to talk about that.
Speaker 1: I don't think, No, I don't. I never got it
Speaker 1: from my parents. I did. We did have like, um,
Speaker 1: the sex ed talk at school, but it was wait
Speaker 1: for years in sixth grade having it now. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: so it was not in high school. Um, but then
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of antone. No, so that was
Speaker 1: I taught you everything you need to know, Thank you, welcome,
Speaker 1: not lying. I was like, yep, at its at its prime.
Speaker 1: I was probably twelve thirteen years old, so parents got
Speaker 1: me a book. Those are like your college years. Did
Speaker 1: you get the American Girl American Girl doll book? I'm
Speaker 1: so old. There was not an American No, there's a
Speaker 1: book with the American Girl. Thought, oh no, that's about
Speaker 1: your body changing. Now. This this was kind of an
Speaker 1: all encompassing it was a picture book. I think I
Speaker 1: got it when I was like literally like seven, you guys,
Speaker 1: and it was just like it showed everything about our body.
Speaker 1: But it was like from the seventies, so it was
Speaker 1: like there was a lot of big Bush in it.
Speaker 1: And I was fascinated by the saggy boobs and big bush,
Speaker 1: and I missed the whole point a bit of this
Speaker 1: is my body, this is his body, this is what
Speaker 1: the female body goes through. And then a man and
Speaker 1: a woman, you know, I can do this and with
Speaker 1: the boobs, saggy boobs and big big bush. And I
Speaker 1: like took the book to school and showed it around,
Speaker 1: pulled it out of my locker, and I got in trouble.
Speaker 1: You were bringing like pornographic material to school seventh in
Speaker 1: the fifth grade? Yeah, not even how the seventh you're
Speaker 1: like second grade? No, second grade? Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: didn't know. It was a picture books Bad Girl, the boobies.
Speaker 1: It's really fun. Oh man, do I have you know?
Speaker 1: My kids are older than yours, as we know, and
Speaker 1: so I don't know what your kids. You know, you
Speaker 1: haven't talked to them, obviously. This is an ebit tore.
Speaker 1: You have some pre teeners. Um, I'm the worst at it.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I tried to talk about it and they
Speaker 1: laugh at me. And then we don't end up getting
Speaker 1: really anywhere. And then I'm like, well, but you guys
Speaker 1: know that you can always talk to me, right, Like
Speaker 1: you can ask me questions because there's stuff out there
Speaker 1: that you don't know that I know, and uh, I
Speaker 1: could tell you all about it, and they're just they
Speaker 1: won't have it talk and because they always say like
Speaker 1: you're supposed to talk about it because they might learn
Speaker 1: they but they can't learn this. But they think they
Speaker 1: know everything from TikTok. So if you even bring it
Speaker 1: up there, like we know everything, they don't. He can't
Speaker 1: ever know everything their stuff. We still don't know probably
Speaker 1: like can they just started, Well, they can just start
Speaker 1: to the internet these days, right, like we didn't have
Speaker 1: that growing up cyclopedias right mm hmm. I didn't feel
Speaker 1: like it was what was the sex Heads teacher Mr
Speaker 1: Travis Kravitz. I thought it was Travis, Mr Pravits like
Speaker 1: Kravitz nex Door, like Lenny Kravitz, and like Lenny Kravitz.
Speaker 1: I felt like Mr Kravitz really didn't do anything. He
Speaker 1: didn't teach them anything, and he just was weird, like
Speaker 1: kept stroking his beard and that weird. He was creepy, creepy.
Speaker 1: He was like do you think when they cast him?
Speaker 1: And they were like sex head teachers are out there,
Speaker 1: They're a little bizarre. But he was super funny when
Speaker 1: he was trying to fix his car when Steve Sanders
Speaker 1: walks up and it's like, can I help you? He
Speaker 1: was really funny at that scene. I thought, like, in
Speaker 1: what world a teacher send a student out to go
Speaker 1: pick up the other sex? Said teacher that's flying in
Speaker 1: I know, just one of his students. And I did
Speaker 1: I miss something? Why did Steve offer to help? Like
Speaker 1: what's the problem? Like he was feeling why would why?
Speaker 1: And he was like you owe me? But what did
Speaker 1: he owe him? Is he going to fail the class
Speaker 1: or something like? Why would Steve? In the first season
Speaker 1: was all about Steve? So what was the reason he
Speaker 1: was going to do that? Did I miss it? There's
Speaker 1: no reason. Did he think it was a lady? A lady?
Speaker 1: I think he was just hoping to score so he
Speaker 1: was just like to get like extra credit? Did he
Speaker 1: know it was a female? Are we sure it came
Speaker 1: out on that? I think he did. Yeah, I would have.
Speaker 1: I would have thought though if it was a female
Speaker 1: sex said teacher that it was someone older. I just
Speaker 1: would think, yeah, like a doctor Ruth. Yeah exactly, doctor.
Speaker 1: I love doctor r exactly. He can't imitate her. But
Speaker 1: see her documentary it's really good. Dry. Yeah, she just
Speaker 1: came out with the documentary. It's so good, a documentary
Speaker 1: about herself, her her life. They show her she's like
Speaker 1: nineties something now and she's still working. She's like, it's
Speaker 1: like she's still sarcastic version of she's just she is
Speaker 1: on it, like just hustling. I wasn't sure. Okay, So
Speaker 1: the woman in the the is the guest speaker. She
Speaker 1: had she had AIDS. So this was in right freshly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so that was much more of a topic. I
Speaker 1: think that it's talked about, was talked about then then
Speaker 1: it feels like it is now maybe, I mean I
Speaker 1: think so because AIDS. When did it like all kind
Speaker 1: of become really big in the eighties. Probably, Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a huge. There was a lot of confusion. You
Speaker 1: didn't know if you could just get it from hugging
Speaker 1: somebody or saliva kissing somebody. Yeah, there were so many questions.
Speaker 1: But I had a question because when she did her speech,
Speaker 1: she said, ah, always use a condom, and foam, and
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I didn't catch that either. Do
Speaker 1: you guys know what fomas? It's called spermicide or something.
Speaker 1: It's like, I was just going to say that, but
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be completely wrong. I think that
Speaker 1: exists anymore. So I think maybe and maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: And this is just my own brain thinking, but what
Speaker 1: if back in the day didn't make the condoms with
Speaker 1: the spur you probably and then you have to spray
Speaker 1: something foam and vaginal inserts are placed into the vagina.
Speaker 1: How do you how do you do that? Someone walked
Speaker 1: me through, how do you unhealthy? How do you place
Speaker 1: a foam or vaginal insert into your vagina? Well, we'll
Speaker 1: get you a book and likely in a moment. In
Speaker 1: the moment, I mean, I'm all for everyone using protection,
Speaker 1: but you put a condom on and they were like,
Speaker 1: and wait, I gotta put this vaginal insert foam, Like
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Between both of those things, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: forget it, which isn't a bad thing for teens. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's like a pre phone situation, like your phone before
Speaker 1: you go, or I mean you should do You're going
Speaker 1: to be the spokesperson, the phone. I'm Jenny Gard and
Speaker 1: you should phone before you go. That was a good one.
Speaker 1: You never want a phone on it before the date. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a new product. People are gonna be like, wait,
Speaker 1: we didn't see what they talked about it, but we
Speaker 1: checked their merch and it wasn't there. Where's the phone?
Speaker 1: Enough about the phone? I can't take it anymore? And
Speaker 1: I thought that they like, we're talking about the emotional
Speaker 1: aspects of what is involved when you do have sex
Speaker 1: with someone a lot in this episode, which I thought
Speaker 1: was really good because I just really loved you know
Speaker 1: who wrote this episode with Karen Rosen and I I
Speaker 1: felt like it had a woman's touch when it was
Speaker 1: talking about those you know, those moments when when Brenda
Speaker 1: was saying, how does it feel in your heart? Though?
Speaker 1: And and that scene between her and her mom about
Speaker 1: the connection and that the desire to have that kind
Speaker 1: of connection, not just a physical connection, but a heart connection,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I thought that was a really
Speaker 1: nicely done moment. You're so right between Brenda. I feel
Speaker 1: like we predominantly had male writers, so it is nice
Speaker 1: that Karen wrote that. Aaron Rosen, who is the wife
Speaker 1: of Chuck rosen Our, our executive producer. She was great.
Speaker 1: She went on to write a bunch of episodes, so
Speaker 1: I can't I look forward to rewatching those because I
Speaker 1: liked her writing. I gotta say, even though it was
Speaker 1: like the early nineties, the sex talk stuff and how
Speaker 1: a girl feels and how everyone feels the first time
Speaker 1: or thinking about the first time, it holds up like
Speaker 1: I would show that to my kids and be like,
Speaker 1: brend is a great example. Yeah, I mean, just showing
Speaker 1: this episode that you don't have to have to talk
Speaker 1: with them there you go. No, but it always every
Speaker 1: episode always goes to some heavy topic, you know. I
Speaker 1: feel like every week after week, and so this week
Speaker 1: it just kind of like the whole age they just
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, Like it was not expecting her
Speaker 1: to say that. Well, Steve was trying to come on
Speaker 1: to her for so many times, and so it just
Speaker 1: kind of like goes to show that the topics that
Speaker 1: I think your show handled. Yeah, for sure, I mean
Speaker 1: it laid it on. Think we knew that that was
Speaker 1: gonna I don't think we knew that that was going
Speaker 1: to become a thing on the show, None of us.
Speaker 1: We Yeah, but as it started happening. I feel like
Speaker 1: we all took a certain pride in that. Maybe we
Speaker 1: laughed a little bit sometimes that like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: now what's going to happen to me this week? You know,
Speaker 1: important message going to be this week? But the show
Speaker 1: had so much other stuff, so many other layers, and
Speaker 1: like so much fun with the fashion and the characters
Speaker 1: in the all the Beverly Hills of it all. Like
Speaker 1: I feel like it was a good balance. Maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely glamorized teens and where we lived. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, that's the driving thing, is the storylines that
Speaker 1: everyone could really do no matter where you lived. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and again this was it was a cool thing that
Speaker 1: kids started watching this with their parents because then they
Speaker 1: kind of opened that door to talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: um what what they were scared to talk about. So
Speaker 1: I thought that was It's like a good conversation starter
Speaker 1: hopefully for some parents. Totally, yeah, I think so. Plus
Speaker 1: the fact that the speaker was exposed to aid time
Speaker 1: her very first time, and then there's Brenda and the
Speaker 1: audiences thinking that could be me, that could happen to me,
Speaker 1: and good good that she thought that, oh yeah, because
Speaker 1: then she has that conversation with Dylan about getting checked
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode. It's such a great
Speaker 1: message because I feel like girls to to this day
Speaker 1: still think like, oh, what's the worst that could happen,
Speaker 1: you know, they think pregnancy, which is a huge life changer,
Speaker 1: but they don't realize that there's something that could happen
Speaker 1: to you that you can die. So that was so
Speaker 1: like WHOA, Like h yeah, and there's so many diseases
Speaker 1: and things now, like you have to protect yourself. I
Speaker 1: loved it when Kyle Well jumping ahead to the favorite,
Speaker 1: my favorite line of the episode, but when Kelly said,
Speaker 1: um rule number one, never rely on the guy, And
Speaker 1: I think that's that's good, Like girls should take care
Speaker 1: of themselves and no always first ladies, safety first. Girls.
Speaker 1: Wrong with boys? I feel like that's I want to
Speaker 1: like teach my boys to always like step up and
Speaker 1: be prepared, like don't be that guy. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't think, Yeah, I mean I think just like girls
Speaker 1: are more you know, aware and educated and more savvy.
Speaker 1: Now of course boys are too, And yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I don't have boys, but I would have to assume
Speaker 1: that people that are raising young boys out there are
Speaker 1: doing just as much work to protect them and to
Speaker 1: teach them, I mean the responsibilities. Well, which goes to
Speaker 1: one of the big topics in this episode, double standards,
Speaker 1: because sometimes, and it's just part of society, parents treat
Speaker 1: boys and girls a little bit differently when it comes
Speaker 1: to sex. Yes, and that's what Jim did in and
Speaker 1: Brenda called him out on it, which was so cool. Wait,
Speaker 1: yeah and brave, but she it's true he was. He
Speaker 1: was saying it was okay for Brandon and and like,
Speaker 1: you know, you pat your son on the back and
Speaker 1: give him a little wink. But but with your daughter,
Speaker 1: her losing her virginity is a question of her morals.
Speaker 1: Brandon's girlfriend got to sleep in the house, got to
Speaker 1: you know, they knew what was happening, Like Jim to
Speaker 1: do something about your son, and he's like, like it
Speaker 1: was fine, you know with Brenda, like they were just
Speaker 1: like no, well not Cindy, but Jim. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: daddy's an old girl. It's hard, but there is I
Speaker 1: stuck around in high school for that reason. You know,
Speaker 1: you never wanted my dad to really know what I
Speaker 1: was up to. Oh break his heart, my little sweet Sistan.
Speaker 1: He would never do that. Important message you guys when
Speaker 1: your teen is of that age and leaving the house,
Speaker 1: slip on mcondom and if you got and if you've
Speaker 1: got some fun, what do you mean? I feel like
Speaker 1: it's better. It's so interesting, Like I would definitely tell
Speaker 1: my husband to do it, like with our sons at
Speaker 1: that age, but like they're going on a date, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Better they have it and are prepared it
Speaker 1: then then it's embarrassing. It's like it's not comfortable for anyone,
Speaker 1: the teen or the parent. But again, you'd rather them
Speaker 1: use it and have it there than being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't get it because I was embarrassed to go
Speaker 1: somewhere and buy it. So now we're in this position
Speaker 1: and it's okay, maybe it'll just be fine. You don't
Speaker 1: want that to happen. I guess well, you guys are
Speaker 1: closer there than I am. This podcast just got really deep.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot to think about going on. Deal
Speaker 1: with it now, you know, just like you just do
Speaker 1: your best as a parent. You you do your best.
Speaker 1: You give them all the things that you learned and
Speaker 1: all the things that you wish you had learned, and
Speaker 1: you you know, arm them with with all of that
Speaker 1: and say a little prayer. You know, you can only
Speaker 1: do your best, and then you have to just sort
Speaker 1: of let them live their life to a certain extent,
Speaker 1: or you tie them up and lock them in the
Speaker 1: basement either or in a warehouse and band eyes like
Speaker 1: for ten years, right, thank god they locked me up
Speaker 1: in that stage for ten years. Think of the trouble
Speaker 1: I could have gotten. Imagine I you know what I
Speaker 1: do think about that sometimes, Like we were working so
Speaker 1: hard from such a young age, Like what if we
Speaker 1: had just I don't know. I don't think either of
Speaker 1: us are that type of girl, but who knows. You
Speaker 1: don't know the trouble like teens came into You're easily
Speaker 1: persuaded and talked into things at a young age that
Speaker 1: aren't good judgment, Like, thank god we had that structure
Speaker 1: of that show when you guys would film scenes that
Speaker 1: were not there at that place and they were on location.
Speaker 1: Like you're mentioning, um the theater where Brenda's waiting for
Speaker 1: it's unvent terrible. But yeah, then when she goes to
Speaker 1: go supposedly meet up with Dylan for her date, and
Speaker 1: then it's left there for two hours waiting for him,
Speaker 1: and he never shows up. Would you wait for twos?
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd wait for two hours, would
Speaker 1: never admit pret Dylan McKay exactly, But she waited that
Speaker 1: that movie theater is. Yeah, it's on venturable of art.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a store building and it's
Speaker 1: still there. But it's not a movie theater anymore. I
Speaker 1: don't think it used to be Barnes and Noble, but
Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble. Oh, it's the Barnes and Noble and
Speaker 1: no one wait, okay, so it's not the one that
Speaker 1: used to be a bookstore. Was a movie theater. Then
Speaker 1: it used to be a bookstore and then it closed
Speaker 1: down and now it's like a med spa. It's not
Speaker 1: that one. No, no, it's not that one. It's the
Speaker 1: one that's still a bookstore over by Laurel Canyon. It's
Speaker 1: still Barnes and Noble, and I know, which looks exactly
Speaker 1: the come on the outside. But when you guys would go,
Speaker 1: so let's say that was where you had to go,
Speaker 1: would you drive yourself to those locations or would you
Speaker 1: like busting or drive? I mean depending. We would sometimes
Speaker 1: drive to set In Park on by the they called
Speaker 1: like the base camp where they have all the trailers,
Speaker 1: the you know, makeup trailer and wardrobe trailer and the
Speaker 1: lightning trailer, all the things. They call that area like
Speaker 1: the base camp, and so you'd park there. But sometimes
Speaker 1: if you if we were like shooting on set, then
Speaker 1: they would just put us sticks in a van and
Speaker 1: drive us to where we had to be. They stuck
Speaker 1: her in a van, tied her up in the warehouse,
Speaker 1: and stuck her in a van. There what a fun
Speaker 1: gig for you guys to be that age, And explained
Speaker 1: a lot like in a fun way, like always going
Speaker 1: to new places. Yeah, yeah, but it was there was
Speaker 1: so much all the time. Do you ever feel like
Speaker 1: to like we were as in this industry? Like you
Speaker 1: go from set to set to movie to show, to
Speaker 1: job to job, joblin and they're always different. It's always
Speaker 1: a different group of people and it's always a different character.
Speaker 1: So I feel like so much of my life has
Speaker 1: been spent on the move or like jumping from thing
Speaker 1: to thing, that it never really settled into anything in particular,
Speaker 1: Like there was never a normal like a baseline for
Speaker 1: me after a while, because it was just it just
Speaker 1: becomes this like whirlwind, and you're always on the move
Speaker 1: and always making new friends and meeting new friends and
Speaker 1: then leaving those friends and never really seeing those friends
Speaker 1: again for the most part. Or you know, it's such
Speaker 1: a weird industry. It's like, yeah, it's like it's like
Speaker 1: being in the military, like always on the move, military family.
Speaker 1: I mean, completely different. And I'm not making fun of that,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just saying just the lifestyle is you never
Speaker 1: completely let your heart settle in because you know that
Speaker 1: you're going to be on But I mean, probably nine
Speaker 1: out of all the things you've done, probably natural was
Speaker 1: the most. I mean that was pretty consecutive. And I
Speaker 1: think like during that time when she's referring to is
Speaker 1: like on summer breaks or winter breaks, we would do
Speaker 1: like TV movies or movies and do other things that
Speaker 1: you know, you you dive in fast. You guys, like
Speaker 1: you give your heart and soul and just commit to
Speaker 1: everyone there, and all of a sudden, it's like joining
Speaker 1: a new school. You go to a new school and
Speaker 1: you just like, but everything is really fast, so it
Speaker 1: like speeds it up the process of like settling in
Speaker 1: and getting to know people and getting accepted. But this
Speaker 1: is probably the one, the one that was like the longest,
Speaker 1: so there's no breaks for you. When you took a
Speaker 1: break from around to know, you jumped right into another project.
Speaker 1: We're all busy working every higatus every break. But I
Speaker 1: mean that was a conscious choice and we wouldn't see
Speaker 1: each other that much because we were given these opportunities
Speaker 1: to go do movies of the week and star and
Speaker 1: then produced them, and you know, it was such so
Speaker 1: many amazing opportunities. Did you ever think that period of time,
Speaker 1: like you we were young, did you ever think like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's summer, I want to go take a vacation or
Speaker 1: I want to There's some people that did do that.
Speaker 1: You and I never did that, Like we were just
Speaker 1: like great work, let's go continue work, work work. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would always I mean because I had my first kid,
Speaker 1: like soon into the sh maybe god soon, I don't
Speaker 1: even know how many years it was before I had
Speaker 1: a first baby, but once I had a baby, I
Speaker 1: would always try to plan like a little family time
Speaker 1: and then before you know, before going on to another
Speaker 1: show and then you come back and you're right back
Speaker 1: into night or two. And I kind of like that.
Speaker 1: I like that. I was always busy and me to
Speaker 1: have time to but I never thought twice about it,
Speaker 1: like we should have been. Like you see people now
Speaker 1: on hit shows and when they have breaks, they're taking
Speaker 1: these amazing vacations around the world because they're making great
Speaker 1: money and they're big celebrities, and like looking back and like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it wasn't ever our mindset, which is great.
Speaker 1: We're both very driven. We still are. I think that's
Speaker 1: another thing that like binds us to each other. You
Speaker 1: know that we have that work ethic. But it would
Speaker 1: have been nice to be like, hey, I'm just taking
Speaker 1: like going to Europe for twenty days in the middle
Speaker 1: of our summer and just like Emily in Paris live
Speaker 1: a little. I noticed that with you guys because um,
Speaker 1: around the holidays, we didn't really talk about it, but
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wonder if we're gonna stop down and
Speaker 1: we're just not going to do any shows. Nope, we're
Speaker 1: all we almost recorded a podcast on Christmas Eve, Like wow,
Speaker 1: we always make time for work somehow, yep. And that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting to know that from a young age though,
Speaker 1: But yeah, work ethic. Yeah, the boys took breaks, they
Speaker 1: took vacations. I feel like Shannon took vacations. Like I
Speaker 1: feel like you and I were the two that really
Speaker 1: always did movies of the week. Yeah, because once you
Speaker 1: did one and it was like they wanted you to
Speaker 1: do another one, and you would just get offered things
Speaker 1: and sent scripts and stuff. I think I've seen these
Speaker 1: movies of the week that there was. There was a
Speaker 1: time when movies of the week were like it was
Speaker 1: everybody was doing it, are they Oh yeah, they're on lifetime.
Speaker 1: All of ours are in lifetime. Now lifetimes always playing.
Speaker 1: But like during the nineties and the time time, like
Speaker 1: they would be for like NBC or CBS or ABC
Speaker 1: it was or Fox, you know, it would they would
Speaker 1: go up against like Monday night football. It would be
Speaker 1: like the female alternative, like and we would take viewers
Speaker 1: away from football. Like it was a big deal Movies
Speaker 1: of the week, And that's why they were titled movies
Speaker 1: of the week. Like there would be one night that
Speaker 1: networks would air their movies of the week, like Monday Night. Um,
Speaker 1: now they're just like TV movies. But also there was
Speaker 1: that thing that you know you were going you were
Speaker 1: like you had the power that they always wanted you.
Speaker 1: You would get these straight offers. He didn't want to
Speaker 1: not do it because you didn't want to not be relevant.
Speaker 1: Like what would happen if we like went one summer
Speaker 1: and didn't do a TV movie. Like it was a
Speaker 1: little bit of that, right, We probably felt like that
Speaker 1: would be it. Well, we'll never work again in this
Speaker 1: town again. Imagine thinking that at like eighteen, at that age,
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Yeah, that was It was a lot, definitely,
Speaker 1: But I I feel like there was so much that
Speaker 1: we learned from doing that too. I mean, we learned
Speaker 1: to beat bosses because we had to. We had to
Speaker 1: learn to suck it up and do what was expected
Speaker 1: of us and you know, call the shots. And I
Speaker 1: think that because we started, I mean I started. I know,
Speaker 1: you probably did two tours started producing the movies that
Speaker 1: I was doing, and uh, you learn what it's like
Speaker 1: to have more control over your works. You have a
Speaker 1: voice and people listen to you. It was really nice.
Speaker 1: It was really productive, But gosh, I don't those hours
Speaker 1: that we worked. I mean we worked crazy hours. And
Speaker 1: then to think, like on Christmas break you would film
Speaker 1: like all night and then like fly to Canada the
Speaker 1: next morning and go right into production on a TV movie.
Speaker 1: And then come back and go right back to nine
Speaker 1: or two now after maybe having like a day off
Speaker 1: for Christmas in the day after New Year, like it
Speaker 1: was just what. I don't know, but those are the
Speaker 1: years you should be hustling in any industry, like whatever
Speaker 1: profession you do, whether it's like in your guys case, TV,
Speaker 1: but like for me it was radio. I got in
Speaker 1: at nineteen and I never took any breaks either. I
Speaker 1: didn't go on any vacations. I worked holidays for five years.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, you can't just pay your dues,
Speaker 1: and so it's interesting that you guys still paid your
Speaker 1: dues even though you're on this hit show. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think every everybody has their own experience
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, for sure. No matter what it is
Speaker 1: that you're chosen career path, is you gotta work hard
Speaker 1: when you're young, and then you learn to like slow
Speaker 1: down and prioritize, and you get a family and you
Speaker 1: get other responsibilities of other interests, and you you learn
Speaker 1: to like make other things important in your life too,
Speaker 1: which kind of creates a nice balance, because I don't
Speaker 1: really feel like that's a very balanced way to live
Speaker 1: for very long you know it's hard for some Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean during that time I had other friends that
Speaker 1: weren't in the business, and they were going to college
Speaker 1: and you know, coming home and having like fun and
Speaker 1: going out, and that wasn't our life. You know, we
Speaker 1: had fun, but it was just a very different life
Speaker 1: than other kids our age. Did it feel like you
Speaker 1: went to college though, totally played it on TV? What
Speaker 1: do you mean I graduated from California University. I've told
Speaker 1: you this, it's real to me. I have the diploma.
Speaker 1: I have Donna Martin's diploma. By the way, I've in
Speaker 1: story and it says Donna Martin graduated California University. It's
Speaker 1: had something like a degree in science arts like that
Speaker 1: would never be her. I don't know why it says
Speaker 1: that on there, like they were making a show. Props
Speaker 1: was like, we're gonna make it funny Donna Martin, which
Speaker 1: is not that smart, like et real you have that
Speaker 1: that Well, we have to take a break. Um, I
Speaker 1: do want to come back. We have some questions from
Speaker 1: listeners and we haven't touched on fashion or any of
Speaker 1: our favorite lines from the show, and there's a few
Speaker 1: of them. So we'll be our background Okay, so should
Speaker 1: we talk about fashion, guys? We should have fashion? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What did you think was like the standout fashion of
Speaker 1: this episode? I feel like it was a pretty even
Speaker 1: keeled episode as far as the fashion. There wasn't anything
Speaker 1: to like. Jarring Dylan's jarring. See that was my favorite.
Speaker 1: That was very like say anything John Cusack like from
Speaker 1: the eighties, right, Yeah, I loved it. Looks so great
Speaker 1: and staring out of the room Brenda around her like
Speaker 1: that's like I want boys to bring back trench coats now,
Speaker 1: why not? What was your favorite? Steve was colorful? I
Speaker 1: know your favorite again with the tucked in blouses on
Speaker 1: on Steve sands a little and the little pants that
Speaker 1: were so snug and a little tushy and he didn't
Speaker 1: know where you're going with that. I don't know why
Speaker 1: were you looking at his tushy? Well, because when he okay,
Speaker 1: when he was in the hotel room with the speaker
Speaker 1: friend girl and uh and he just walked turned around
Speaker 1: and walked out so confidently, And I really felpposed to
Speaker 1: look at his The Steve Sanders strut, which is also
Speaker 1: the Irons eerng strut. Yeah, um, the Brenda makeover was
Speaker 1: fun with you guys fashion montage. The way they sped
Speaker 1: it up super cute. That was really cute like that.
Speaker 1: We probably had so much fun filming that, right, I'm
Speaker 1: sure like that's that feels like such a YouTube like
Speaker 1: TikTok movement now and we did it then like the
Speaker 1: speed up, like getting the girl dressed. Um, can we
Speaker 1: talk about Brenda's fashion because I feel like you have
Speaker 1: an ode to it today? Oh right, I'm today I'm
Speaker 1: wearing she inspired me on my shirt choice. Uh that
Speaker 1: you guys know what an air tie is, right? Do
Speaker 1: you know that air tight? This is an air tie
Speaker 1: when you but in your shirt all the way up
Speaker 1: to the top and you don't wear a tie. Oh
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but it's it's like an I
Speaker 1: don't know. They call it an air tie. All the
Speaker 1: hipsters are wearing it these days. But Brenda, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you got bright red lips onto Inda was rock in
Speaker 1: the air tie back in the nineties. That must be
Speaker 1: where it came from the nineties. Probably everything came from
Speaker 1: the nineties. Um, and her jean shorts like the infamous
Speaker 1: Jane shorts. She looked great like when Dylan eyed her
Speaker 1: up and down those legs, those Jeane shorts, those scrunchy socks.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like the whole episode it was all
Speaker 1: about that she looked great. She was wearing your socks,
Speaker 1: didn't you. Didn't you let her borrow that? You're so mean.
Speaker 1: So we were working last week and I wore scrunchy
Speaker 1: socks because they're back in everything from the nineties. I
Speaker 1: got them with my girls at Journey and I wore
Speaker 1: them last week, and she just like I knew she
Speaker 1: was gonna hate my off. And I just knew it.
Speaker 1: I was like and one, and two and the three,
Speaker 1: and she's like, you wore those scrunchy socks just to
Speaker 1: piss me off. You thought him a journey, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: store journey from still around. Wow, you can go shopping
Speaker 1: right now. I didn't even know that you can, but
Speaker 1: I should get out. You won't like it, but it's
Speaker 1: somewhere deep down. I knew that morning when I got dressed,
Speaker 1: I did, I somewhat put those scrunchy socks on because
Speaker 1: I knew it would send my best friend over the edge.
Speaker 1: And I love that she would notice. And I knew
Speaker 1: that she would notice. And that's how tight. We are
Speaker 1: you guys? Any favorite lines already said mine about Kelly
Speaker 1: Kelly saying rule number one, never rely on the guy.
Speaker 1: I like that one. What about you? Um one was
Speaker 1: good that Brenda said to her dad. We kind of
Speaker 1: talked about it, but the actual line was and if
Speaker 1: I'm ready first, then what should I lie and sneak around?
Speaker 1: When he was talking to her about the double standard?
Speaker 1: Really great thing to say. Good job, Karen Rosen. I felt,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to quote this verbatim and I didn't
Speaker 1: write it down. But when she's looking at Dylan and talking,
Speaker 1: Brenda's looking at Dylan from the balcony and talking to
Speaker 1: Kelly and she's like, uh, and Kelly's like you need
Speaker 1: to go, like, go have a bubble bath. She's like
Speaker 1: I need more than that, and you go, oh, did
Speaker 1: I get that right? There was another one in the
Speaker 1: hallway when when uh, Brenda and Kelly were walking down
Speaker 1: the hall and something about being pinned. Oh she I said,
Speaker 1: you're dating now and she was like it was just
Speaker 1: one day. I said we're going on another one, so
Speaker 1: you're officially dating. And then she goes, what what am I?
Speaker 1: What is? What's next season gonna pin me and Kelly
Speaker 1: goes hopefully to a mattress. Kelly had some singers. She's so,
Speaker 1: we have some questions, but however, we just have time
Speaker 1: for one. Do you guys see them or do you
Speaker 1: have a one? You have one that you would rather answer.
Speaker 1: I feel like, let's talk about Courtney's questions. What's wrong? Okay? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you know what. I was gonna let you decide.
Speaker 1: So there we go. So Courtney is asking, could you
Speaker 1: talk more about friendships with Shannon? Wasn't Tory friends with
Speaker 1: her in the beginning and then they went out to
Speaker 1: clubs together? Where Jenny and Shannon ever friendly or were
Speaker 1: they too different? Did the three of you ever hang out? Yes,
Speaker 1: we totally hung out. We were friends. There were really
Speaker 1: great moments when it was the three of us. I
Speaker 1: have great memories of us all hanging out and laughing
Speaker 1: and like doing that scene in this episode. Whenever we
Speaker 1: worked together, we had a great time. But we did.
Speaker 1: There was plenty of times when the three of us
Speaker 1: went out, I like went out to clubs together. Like,
Speaker 1: I definitely had very different friendships with each of them.
Speaker 1: I had kind of my friendship with Shannon and my
Speaker 1: friendship with Jen and then they would merge all of
Speaker 1: us because we were together all the time. That's what happens.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah I did. I did go to like
Speaker 1: the Roxberry and bar One a lot with Shannon. She
Speaker 1: was like older than me when I stay older, I
Speaker 1: mean only like two years only two years older. But
Speaker 1: she was cool and like she'd be like, oh, my
Speaker 1: friends and I are going to like the Roxbury, And
Speaker 1: I wanted to fit in so bad because I was
Speaker 1: like just a little bit too young to be doing
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I'd be like, oh god, she's
Speaker 1: taking me the Roxberry. You know, it's just like, oh cool.
Speaker 1: But I feel like Jen and I had the relationship.
Speaker 1: We like did things like at the same level. Does
Speaker 1: that make sense, Like bond at the same time about
Speaker 1: things at the same time. Like Shannon was kind of
Speaker 1: like an aspiration to me because I was like she
Speaker 1: was the older cool kid even though she was only
Speaker 1: two years older. Yeah, And Shannon and I we had
Speaker 1: great We had great times together, and we also had
Speaker 1: times that weren't as great because we were just too
Speaker 1: Um we're two aries women, two very I did not
Speaker 1: know that we're both very strong minded, and um, I
Speaker 1: think that that sometimes it would just make us like
Speaker 1: two rams, you know, we would lock horns sometimes and
Speaker 1: um and would that be with like things that were
Speaker 1: happening on the show or in your personal lives? Not really.
Speaker 1: I think it was always like show related, whether it
Speaker 1: was on camera, off camera, behind the scenes or whatever
Speaker 1: that became personal. It's never about personal life because we
Speaker 1: I don't think Shannon and I ever hung out on
Speaker 1: a personal level too often, just the two of us
Speaker 1: that I recall, but um, yeah, we would work it out.
Speaker 1: We would we would somehow work it out, and we
Speaker 1: continue that, you know, we're working relationship. I felt like
Speaker 1: it went as good as it could go in with
Speaker 1: those circumstances. And I it's just like high school, you guys,
Speaker 1: this happens, and they're both very strong or like alpha
Speaker 1: alpha women, you know, they speak their mind, and I'm
Speaker 1: like the tourists, that's just like everyone get along, and
Speaker 1: so they were all I would just remember. There would
Speaker 1: be times when they would kind of bump heads about things,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was always Stoll related, but it felt
Speaker 1: personal when it would go beyond that, and I would
Speaker 1: just be in the middle, like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: my two best friends, like, just get along. I want
Speaker 1: you to be happy. I want you to be happy.
Speaker 1: I'm stuck in the middle. Would you guys, like um,
Speaker 1: between the four of you girls, even Gabrielle, would you
Speaker 1: guys ever fight about clothes or was it always specific
Speaker 1: like Kelly's alphite or these or Donna's alphite or these,
Speaker 1: or like, would you fightly like I was supposed to
Speaker 1: wear that top in the scene or whatever? He of course,
Speaker 1: really there were wardrobe battles, makeup hair battles, why is
Speaker 1: she wearing her hair? Like, Okay, I was gonna wear
Speaker 1: my I mean, I don't remember anything specifically, but I
Speaker 1: love it. We do remember the Red Dress incident? I do,
Speaker 1: but I think I don't really remember acture because everyone
Speaker 1: has their perception of how something happens, and then it's
Speaker 1: heightened once it starts to become a story and you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: how did it actually begin? How did it actually happen?
Speaker 1: And we call it the red dress incident because the
Speaker 1: boys made it bigger like than it was. But pretty
Speaker 1: much it was a photo shoot. It was a photo shoot,
Speaker 1: and we we've discussed this. Those were the days we
Speaker 1: were all on set together, all working hard, the whole
Speaker 1: day and um taking photos, which is a lot of pressure,
Speaker 1: especially for girls, like you want to look good? How
Speaker 1: do I look? Um? And they didn't want everyone in
Speaker 1: the same color, and we don't exactly all see it
Speaker 1: the same way, but it was pretty much, you know,
Speaker 1: it was one of those days when it was like no,
Speaker 1: everyone kind of stood up for themselves and going back
Speaker 1: the wardrobe, people shouldn't have given everyone choices if they
Speaker 1: didn't want to want to wear the same color. We
Speaker 1: each had our section and we each had a red
Speaker 1: dress in it, and we each picked the red dress,
Speaker 1: and then so we all we've all come out with it.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't just you and I are was it
Speaker 1: the three of us? I think originally it was Shannon,
Speaker 1: wasn't It was involved somehow, and then she chose the
Speaker 1: black dress, and then you and I were both you
Speaker 1: you were riled up because you were like, I thought
Speaker 1: they had asked you to change because she had wanted
Speaker 1: to wear a red dress, and you were like, no,
Speaker 1: that's not fair, Like I feel good in this dress,
Speaker 1: I have it on, it was in my section, I'm
Speaker 1: going to wear it. And then she changed, but simultaneously,
Speaker 1: because you had it on. They had asked me to
Speaker 1: not wear the red dress, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: always get along with everyone. I always say yes to everything.
Speaker 1: Today I'm wearing the red dress. And it ended up
Speaker 1: being a battle between Jen and I which we never fought,
Speaker 1: which was so strange. So if you look at that
Speaker 1: picture of that photo shoot, which was like our you know,
Speaker 1: cast photo for the year, it's her, Tory and I
Speaker 1: both in red dresses, and Shannon and the black dress,
Speaker 1: and Tory and I are like, like, we're peeved at
Speaker 1: each other. You can just tell there's tension. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can see it right you literally google. And they
Speaker 1: separated us in the photo on other ends because they
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, let's make this work. They're both in
Speaker 1: red dresses and they're upset. But the boys, by the
Speaker 1: time we came to set, we were both already fired up.
Speaker 1: And it kind of didn't even start with us but
Speaker 1: ended with us. Um by the time we got to set,
Speaker 1: we were like upset, and then the boys were like,
Speaker 1: that's it. And the boys are like, I want to
Speaker 1: wear the red dress. No, I'm wearing the red dress.
Speaker 1: And they were saying that in this photo while we're
Speaker 1: taking photos, they'd be like and cheese photo and they'd
Speaker 1: be like, I want to wear the red dress, and
Speaker 1: we were both just like, oh, by the way. For
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, that was season's until the
Speaker 1: end of the show, that was the fight, like the
Speaker 1: boys always so much that we brought it back for
Speaker 1: the friviation kind of use that as for for a
Speaker 1: scene where we are um but that wasn't in the show.
Speaker 1: Behind the shot, yeah, but we brought it into b
Speaker 1: HN tourno that we all three show up in a
Speaker 1: red dress. Because to this day, even when we were
Speaker 1: starting bhnot Tourno, as soon as we'd get in like
Speaker 1: rooms and like all having dinner or like drinks, the
Speaker 1: boys would still be like, I'm wearing the red dress.
Speaker 1: And it's like WHOA thirty years later, you guys are
Speaker 1: still saying that, and it's still got us piste off.
Speaker 1: It's riling me up right now, offlustered right now us.
Speaker 1: I think because of that, I couldn't wear a red
Speaker 1: dress out publicly anymore, Like I was just so scarred.
Speaker 1: Red dress. Well, you look really beautiful in red, so
Speaker 1: you should you should wear red d two and and
Speaker 1: we just don't wear it when what do you mean
Speaker 1: just stand on the other side of me, like somewhere
Speaker 1: else in the picture. I feel like for our I
Speaker 1: feel like for a Galantine's Day, we should both wear
Speaker 1: red and then talking. Oh my god, us, I think
Speaker 1: we should end with that. Ladies, there's no question. You
Speaker 1: can't ask us. You guys, we will. We will talk
Speaker 1: about all your questions. Like I picked that question because
Speaker 1: I felt like people wanted to know that, and like
Speaker 1: maybe we don't want to talk about it, or like,
Speaker 1: you know, but let's talk about it. Why not? So
Speaker 1: send us questions. I think as a fan, you heard
Speaker 1: all these rumors and you just just didn't know what
Speaker 1: was true, especially because there was no love that you
Speaker 1: can google on the red dress fight and it comes up.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I literally nine O two and oh read
Speaker 1: and address, and then as I was writing dress, it
Speaker 1: suggested fight historical wardrobe malfunction. Okay, Episode eleven is the
Speaker 1: homework assignment. Yep, you have a whole week to watch
Speaker 1: episode eleven and then we will convene and we will
Speaker 1: talk about it. Break it down, break it down, and
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