WEBVTT - Lady in Red (S1, E10 “Isn’t It Romantic”) 

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<v Speaker 1>It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>here we are on the nine o two one OMG

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<v Speaker 1>podcast with my best friend and my new bestie. It

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<v Speaker 1>is Jenny Garth and I'm Tori Spelling and Hi, Hi beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you fine? Ladies? How how is everybody? That's

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<v Speaker 1>my question? Good? I love on our zoom. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if your zoom is like this, but mine right

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<v Speaker 1>now it's sis. You're just like you're a book ended

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<v Speaker 1>by two blondes. Just love it. You know, I have

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<v Speaker 1>highlights in my hair but you can't see them. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to, but I just love that. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you could go even more. We'll talk about it for summer.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been almost your guys this color. I did

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<v Speaker 1>it once and it was crazy, but it was just

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<v Speaker 1>so much of an upkeep. But how did you feel?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel blonds have more fun? I think do?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that blondes do have more fun. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think blonds do have more fun, for sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think brunettes get taken more seriously. That's interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe she's right. I think you stand out of your

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<v Speaker 1>blonde you know, it's like brunettes can kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>like I can hide in the crowd of people and

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<v Speaker 1>like you do not really go notice, but if your

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<v Speaker 1>blonde hair, you kind of stand out just staying maybe

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, but I just I colored my hair totally

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<v Speaker 1>dark ones and I wasn't a fan. You weren't a fan.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was a fan because I could go anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>and not be recognized and people actually what I was

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<v Speaker 1>saying instead of what looking at me? That's it was crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>really weird. Like we can just put a bag over

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<v Speaker 1>your head and then you can talk to people. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to change your hair. Hey, that wouldn't draw any

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<v Speaker 1>attention you guys. We have some really exciting news. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>we do, we do, we do exciting things. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, and it's gonna be really exciting. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna so we're gonna do that week our episode recap

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<v Speaker 1>rewatch with you guys. But we're gonna do it five obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and sadly obviously live right now means over the computer,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll be there in spirit and hopefully one day

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<v Speaker 1>we can all do it together in person. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be taking virtual pictures with you though. And uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>have some special guests who's going to be there? Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>should we tell them who our special guest is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be? Or should we wait? Make them wait? I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should tell them, Okay, tell them our special

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<v Speaker 1>guests is iron Zer, our boy bestie iron zerring Steve Sanders.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, it's gonna be so fun. You know. If

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<v Speaker 1>he is uh in the house, things are going to

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<v Speaker 1>get a little crazy. I don't feel like anyone's ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen the three of us, just the three of us,

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<v Speaker 1>because we like, we have personal nights just the three

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<v Speaker 1>of us. And I don't think we ever laugh as

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<v Speaker 1>hard as when it's me, Jen and Iron together. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I right, there's like tears, they're law La laughing, laughing tears,

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<v Speaker 1>like laughing so hard you double over, Like the three

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<v Speaker 1>of us makes me miss it. Uh yeah, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get a taste of it. We're going to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with them. Yeah, it's gonna be so come to

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<v Speaker 1>We can make sure you get your ta the other

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<v Speaker 1>so we can't we can't announce our musical guests. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's going to be a special musical guest that

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<v Speaker 1>has a special tie in to Nino too o and

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<v Speaker 1>a tie into the world. Um, and it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. Now we got to talk about this week's episode.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, should we just do it? I've been waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for this. That's a major episode in the history of

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<v Speaker 1>nine o two and now this is it. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a big one. I think so too. This is episode ten.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Isn't it mantic and it aired on January.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell him what it's about. Well, while Brandon is wary,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim is definitely opposed to the growing attraction between Brenda

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<v Speaker 1>and Dylan. Now that's a storyline, But the b storyline

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<v Speaker 1>is it's sex said people, sex s everybody's favorite subjective

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<v Speaker 1>and a really fun Steve Sanders. It's such a Steve Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>with a twist. We see a sweet seat, a sweet

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<v Speaker 1>side of Steve in this episode. I love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it when it gets all sentimental and gooey. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the episode opens up with Brandon and Dylan working

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<v Speaker 1>on the car and did they have to be that grease?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, why so much grease? What are they doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mind seeing Dylan McKay covered in Greece. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie, but it was I felt like Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>had like one grease smear on his shoulder, Am I wrong? No?

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<v Speaker 1>And then like one space his arms, his shirt, his front,

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<v Speaker 1>his back from it was like he was, yeah, drug

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<v Speaker 1>behind something compared to Dylan. Well, no matter what, a

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<v Speaker 1>man in Greece is hot though, and Dylan has to

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<v Speaker 1>shower at the washes. Oh my gosh. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>first of many shower scenes. I'm sure. I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>instant flirting between them too. They had been flirting for

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<v Speaker 1>so many episodes, have they really? I felt like this

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<v Speaker 1>came so far. I felt the same way the last Yeah, really,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like there was some one, but this one

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, here's the story. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like we've seen it, like the Wall shows, like when

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<v Speaker 1>Cindy had her almost a fair like all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like we didn't know the back story, but

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<v Speaker 1>something major was happening. It felt that way a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit with Brendan Dylan, like all of a sudden, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like it was on, but we didn't know it

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<v Speaker 1>at already been started. Really a gong. It was on

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<v Speaker 1>the like Donkey dog well. So we yeah, we flip

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<v Speaker 1>floped between the whole Brenda Dylan storyline and the sex

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<v Speaker 1>ed storyline. So what should we talk about first? Should

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<v Speaker 1>we just stick with the bridge that out or should

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<v Speaker 1>we go back and forth? Okay, Brenda and Dylan, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, when they go on their well, first

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<v Speaker 1>they have that like three threesome days like her and

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<v Speaker 1>her brother and you know, uh Dylan, and then out

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<v Speaker 1>and listen to the c ds, you know those like things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we used to do back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a record, but a c D Uh. Yeah, where

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<v Speaker 1>did those go? By the way, do you guys still

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<v Speaker 1>have CDs? I do you know what? I still have

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<v Speaker 1>them in the garage and I don't know what to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I just need to throw them away. At this I

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<v Speaker 1>went from like having them to having them in like

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<v Speaker 1>a binder, taking all the cases out and just keeping

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<v Speaker 1>the CD and put him in Like didn't you probably

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<v Speaker 1>I's gone. I got right. Found a cassette you guys

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<v Speaker 1>of a compilation of all the nine two songs used

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA Like? I have it, like the O G songs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was from I don't know I have I have

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<v Speaker 1>the cassette. I don't know where I can play it,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have it. I also have a cassette track

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<v Speaker 1>of um of you Me, Shannon and Christina Leice doing

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<v Speaker 1>I know, yeah, we know, but we can't sing it.

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<v Speaker 1>When you guys wore the black dresses breaking up this deleted?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah hard to do. Yeah, we had we had to

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<v Speaker 1>reenact that in beach and that. That was a scurry night.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of feelings came back I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, god, I don't I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>slick my hair back. That was fine when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a teenager, but now I don't want to do No

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<v Speaker 1>one wants to see that. But we did it with

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<v Speaker 1>the help of wine. You me and Shannon had wine.

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<v Speaker 1>That helped. But I, yeah, go back to just me,

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<v Speaker 1>to what you're saying. I feel like for me, it

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<v Speaker 1>came like who like fast and I all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>Brenda and Dylan were holding hands as they leave. They

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<v Speaker 1>walk into the to the hotel room where his dad

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<v Speaker 1>is and I didn't see that. I didn't see them

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<v Speaker 1>getting to that yet. I don't know which. Maybe everything

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<v Speaker 1>is just intense, so toxic from the get go. That

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<v Speaker 1>but he's such a bad boy, such the boy that

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<v Speaker 1>every girl is like I want him. I don't want him, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like bad but exactly emotionally available or a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit too available, But that's my kind of guy. He

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<v Speaker 1>breaks the pot and she has she's so scared. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she runs so fast, but he catches her with with

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<v Speaker 1>the with like some violent action there. He's like grabs her,

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<v Speaker 1>flips a around, and then they make out. Because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you do and that makeout though, did you notice

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<v Speaker 1>like he really does like go in at such a

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<v Speaker 1>different time, Like he goes in and he has his

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<v Speaker 1>hand on her neck and then around her waist and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so like, Yeah, I felt that was a

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<v Speaker 1>good chemistry in that kissing scene. Yeah, I felt it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I felt it a lot. Is that weird? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think every girl you're getting Are you guys getting

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<v Speaker 1>antsy for when we get to your kissing scenes? Probably? Probably? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's in here describing this when he grabs her neck

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes in, there's so much chemistry multissect rs

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry, like they definitely used tongue right, you guys said,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sure? But I just felt like that kiss

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it feel like the characters would have. And I

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<v Speaker 1>also felt like after that scene, after Brenda decides that

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<v Speaker 1>she's in love, there's just a new pep in her step,

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<v Speaker 1>And I like, in love Brenda, she's so happy and

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<v Speaker 1>like jubilant, you know, there's like a new energy about her.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought that was really cool to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>In other areas, like she was in her sex said

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<v Speaker 1>class with Steve, she was just more playful and not

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<v Speaker 1>as serious or dramatic for a minute, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that. And then Kelly, But Kelly is just all

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<v Speaker 1>about like it's going to happen. It's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like they had what one day, two dates?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, okay, that's the thing. Holding hands is one thing, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But then all of a sudden, they're just under the

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<v Speaker 1>assumption that they're going to be happened sexy time. Are

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<v Speaker 1>they under the assumption or Kelly was just like pushing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, No, in a good way. She was

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<v Speaker 1>like to be prepared, which was great. But they had

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<v Speaker 1>one date and a threesome date with her brother, Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's it stopped going a threesome date with her brother. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like it. I don't know. I just as

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<v Speaker 1>a mom of teens makes me a little more when

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<v Speaker 1>they go so fast, because I'm a little old fashioned

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<v Speaker 1>in my thinking, maybe not so much in my actions,

0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.959
<v Speaker 1>but um like, yeah, I'm a little fashioned, and watching it,

0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, why so soon? But then Brenda

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of episode, she kind of slows things down,

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<v Speaker 1>which I really respected. Definitely, the the makeout scene, the

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<v Speaker 1>couch in her living room, of her parents house was intense.

0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they're going to get way more intense though, right,

0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Like this is nothing good one for teenager? That was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Why didn't they go out the front door?

0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Had they not gone out the back door? He always

0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:37.760
<v Speaker 1>comes in the front door. Duh, right out the back door.

0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean it makes sense in my mind, But grab

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<v Speaker 1>your jacket one time, like they couldn't. They just sat

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<v Speaker 1>there and picked up a book and pretended to pretend

0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that they were reading. I mean, she didn't cook in

0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.400
<v Speaker 1>her shirt. That's what drove me mad. Is I quickly

0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.840
<v Speaker 1>would have tucked in the shirt. Dad giveaway. Brenda never

0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:02.840
<v Speaker 1>wears her shirts out with her jean shorts. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>guys ever, um you know like been um maybe kissing

0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.680
<v Speaker 1>a boy or or something, and um, your parents walked

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<v Speaker 1>in on you when you were younger or you got

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<v Speaker 1>busted like that somehow. I did have a rowdy eight

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<v Speaker 1>birthday party that there was some drinking at and my

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<v Speaker 1>dad was so against it and he was almost just

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<v Speaker 1>like I want nothing to do with this, Like he

0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.800
<v Speaker 1>basically left it all up to my mom. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>like he was just like pissed about the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>In general, and he went into his office at some

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<v Speaker 1>point in the night and one of my friends. He

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<v Speaker 1>caught one of my friends with her boyfriend on his

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<v Speaker 1>couch in our home his home office, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just so bad. He turns on the light, get downstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>I did. I did come home once, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>just in the back of a boy's car and there

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<v Speaker 1>was just some petting. Petting to people say petting, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, I just what does that mean? Like he

0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:10.040
<v Speaker 1>put your hair or your head touching. There was some touching.

0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know the basses, you guys, but it was nothing,

0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:17.320
<v Speaker 1>nothing below the base. Let's just put it that way. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. But I did, I guess take my top

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<v Speaker 1>off and put it back on and then ah, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>bra state on the way off. I'm not sure. Okay, fine,

0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:32.040
<v Speaker 1>now you're embarrassing me. Yes. And I did come home

0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:33.640
<v Speaker 1>because I had to be home by curfew. I always

0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.040
<v Speaker 1>had the earliest curfew, so like eleven PM, you have

0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.480
<v Speaker 1>to be home. My friends were like, we can say

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<v Speaker 1>it later. It's like whatever. So I came home and

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was like, your t shirts on inside out?

0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh noticed it. I'd like, you know, a little liked

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<v Speaker 1>on and Doc Martin's and my T shirt on inside

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<v Speaker 1>out and she noticed it. And I was like, you

0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.400
<v Speaker 1>were mad at Brenda for not tucking her shirt in? Yeah?

0:16:57.400 --> 0:16:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Because PTSD. So I was like, why did Brenda get

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<v Speaker 1>on it? Yes? Mm hmm. And no matter what you say, parents, no,

0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.359
<v Speaker 1>they just know, just like Jim Walsh, like, do you

0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.480
<v Speaker 1>take me for stupid or what do you say? Like

0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.679
<v Speaker 1>they know? Yeah, they do, they do. I just assume

0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.040
<v Speaker 1>every time my daughter comes home and she's been making

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<v Speaker 1>out with her boyfriend, Yeah, makes it better in your head?

0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:22.560
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not like, you know, I'm not pretending you

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<v Speaker 1>just accept it. Does that make it easier for you

0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.520
<v Speaker 1>or for her? Or for both? Probably both, I would

0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:33.000
<v Speaker 1>imagine instead of me, you know, looking at her like

0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:38.199
<v Speaker 1>she's an alien and grilling her. But I never got

0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:43.639
<v Speaker 1>caught um that I can recall in with a with

0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.879
<v Speaker 1>a guy that young. No, I know. My my husband

0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:52.359
<v Speaker 1>said that he walked in on his sister once and

0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:58.960
<v Speaker 1>they were doing it and yeah he saw that scarden.

0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:03.880
<v Speaker 1>I think how old was here? He was like twelve,

0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I like twelve and eleven twelves and like that. Yeah,

0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.800
<v Speaker 1>that's something you can't remove from your brain. Mm hmmmm.

0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:18.840
<v Speaker 1>So when it's your sister. Yeah, I was really uncomfortable

0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.960
<v Speaker 1>when Brandon was watching then, like be all flirty and

0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:29.080
<v Speaker 1>touchy and I totally Brandon. If that's Brandon's buddy, Yeah,

0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.840
<v Speaker 1>that's a hard one. I would be so awkward. I

0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.240
<v Speaker 1>got to say, like, up until now, we haven't really

0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:39.040
<v Speaker 1>seen that connection as brother and sister. And this is

0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the episode where he came in and like was all

0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:43.760
<v Speaker 1>fired up to Dylan. Then he didn't show up, he

0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:48.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't call her. Yeah, he's so he was so pretty

0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and then and then he went just a little too far.

0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:54.800
<v Speaker 1>He just took it a little too far and said

0:18:55.080 --> 0:19:03.359
<v Speaker 1>she's a virgin right there in the science room. I

0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:09.080
<v Speaker 1>thought that was a little t m. I yeah, well, well,

0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:15.080
<v Speaker 1>speaking of virginity, sex ad was another topic. Um, I

0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:19.000
<v Speaker 1>think we should take a break and come back and

0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:34.600
<v Speaker 1>reveal when you guys had the talk about Hi, you guys,

0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:38.520
<v Speaker 1>welcome back before break. We were just about to get

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<v Speaker 1>into it. Um, sex ad. This episode B storyline, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all about sex ad, the consent forms. Um, you guys, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, did you have this in school? Second

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<v Speaker 1>of all, what age did you have the talk? The

0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:58.840
<v Speaker 1>talk or did you didn't? Does anyone have the proper

0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:01.840
<v Speaker 1>talk anymore? I never got the talk from my mom

0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 1>mm hmmm, because probably I would shut her down. I'd

0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.520
<v Speaker 1>be like, I'm good, I we're fine. I know, you

0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 1>know what's good. I'm I don't need to talk about that.

0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't think, No, I don't. I never got it

0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:16.159
<v Speaker 1>from my parents. I did. We did have like, um,

0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the sex ed talk at school, but it was wait

0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.320
<v Speaker 1>for years in sixth grade having it now. Oh yeah,

0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.440
<v Speaker 1>so it was not in high school. Um, but then

0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I watched a lot of antone. No, so that was

0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.919
<v Speaker 1>I taught you everything you need to know, Thank you, welcome,

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 1>not lying. I was like, yep, at its at its prime.

0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.880
<v Speaker 1>I was probably twelve thirteen years old, so parents got

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<v Speaker 1>me a book. Those are like your college years. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you get the American Girl American Girl doll book? I'm

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:51.639
<v Speaker 1>so old. There was not an American No, there's a

0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:53.720
<v Speaker 1>book with the American Girl. Thought, oh no, that's about

0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.840
<v Speaker 1>your body changing. Now. This this was kind of an

0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:58.240
<v Speaker 1>all encompassing it was a picture book. I think I

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.920
<v Speaker 1>got it when I was like literally like seven, you guys,

0:21:01.520 --> 0:21:05.960
<v Speaker 1>and it was just like it showed everything about our body.

0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 1>But it was like from the seventies, so it was

0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:10.159
<v Speaker 1>like there was a lot of big Bush in it.

0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:13.320
<v Speaker 1>And I was fascinated by the saggy boobs and big bush,

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<v Speaker 1>and I missed the whole point a bit of this

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<v Speaker 1>is my body, this is his body, this is what

0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the female body goes through. And then a man and

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<v Speaker 1>a woman, you know, I can do this and with

0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the boobs, saggy boobs and big big bush. And I

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<v Speaker 1>like took the book to school and showed it around,

0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.800
<v Speaker 1>pulled it out of my locker, and I got in trouble.

0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:42.800
<v Speaker 1>You were bringing like pornographic material to school seventh in

0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the fifth grade? Yeah, not even how the seventh you're

0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.800
<v Speaker 1>like second grade? No, second grade? Oh my god, I

0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:59.159
<v Speaker 1>didn't know. It was a picture books Bad Girl, the boobies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really fun. Oh man, do I have you know?

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.639
<v Speaker 1>My kids are older than yours, as we know, and

0:22:09.560 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 1>so I don't know what your kids. You know, you

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:13.840
<v Speaker 1>haven't talked to them, obviously. This is an ebit tore.

0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.879
<v Speaker 1>You have some pre teeners. Um, I'm the worst at it.

0:22:18.040 --> 0:22:21.119
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I tried to talk about it and they

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:24.960
<v Speaker 1>laugh at me. And then we don't end up getting

0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.120
<v Speaker 1>really anywhere. And then I'm like, well, but you guys

0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.879
<v Speaker 1>know that you can always talk to me, right, Like

0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you can ask me questions because there's stuff out there

0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.720
<v Speaker 1>that you don't know that I know, and uh, I

0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.119
<v Speaker 1>could tell you all about it, and they're just they

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:47.080
<v Speaker 1>won't have it talk and because they always say like

0:22:47.119 --> 0:22:49.200
<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to talk about it because they might learn

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 1>they but they can't learn this. But they think they

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 1>know everything from TikTok. So if you even bring it

0:22:56.640 --> 0:23:00.640
<v Speaker 1>up there, like we know everything, they don't. He can't

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.400
<v Speaker 1>ever know everything their stuff. We still don't know probably

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.960
<v Speaker 1>like can they just started, Well, they can just start

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>to the internet these days, right, like we didn't have

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 1>that growing up cyclopedias right mm hmm. I didn't feel

0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 1>like it was what was the sex Heads teacher Mr

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<v Speaker 1>Travis Kravitz. I thought it was Travis, Mr Pravits like

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Kravitz nex Door, like Lenny Kravitz, and like Lenny Kravitz.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like Mr Kravitz really didn't do anything. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't teach them anything, and he just was weird, like

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>kept stroking his beard and that weird. He was creepy, creepy.

0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.360
<v Speaker 1>He was like do you think when they cast him?

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>And they were like sex head teachers are out there,

0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.359
<v Speaker 1>They're a little bizarre. But he was super funny when

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:54.280
<v Speaker 1>he was trying to fix his car when Steve Sanders

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:57.200
<v Speaker 1>walks up and it's like, can I help you? He

0:23:57.359 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 1>was really funny at that scene. I thought, like, in

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<v Speaker 1>what world a teacher send a student out to go

0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.440
<v Speaker 1>pick up the other sex? Said teacher that's flying in

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.919
<v Speaker 1>I know, just one of his students. And I did

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I miss something? Why did Steve offer to help? Like

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>what's the problem? Like he was feeling why would why?

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:17.159
<v Speaker 1>And he was like you owe me? But what did

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>he owe him? Is he going to fail the class

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 1>or something like? Why would Steve? In the first season

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 1>was all about Steve? So what was the reason he

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 1>was going to do that? Did I miss it? There's

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>no reason. Did he think it was a lady? A lady?

0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I think he was just hoping to score so he

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:37.119
<v Speaker 1>was just like to get like extra credit? Did he

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.200
<v Speaker 1>know it was a female? Are we sure it came

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:42.480
<v Speaker 1>out on that? I think he did. Yeah, I would have.

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 1>I would have thought though if it was a female

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:49.200
<v Speaker 1>sex said teacher that it was someone older. I just

0:24:49.240 --> 0:24:54.479
<v Speaker 1>would think, yeah, like a doctor Ruth. Yeah exactly, doctor.

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 1>I love doctor r exactly. He can't imitate her. But

0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>see her documentary it's really good. Dry. Yeah, she just

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>came out with the documentary. It's so good, a documentary

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 1>about herself, her her life. They show her she's like

0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:15.120
<v Speaker 1>nineties something now and she's still working. She's like, it's

0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 1>like she's still sarcastic version of she's just she is

0:25:20.720 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>on it, like just hustling. I wasn't sure. Okay, So

0:25:26.000 --> 0:25:29.359
<v Speaker 1>the woman in the the is the guest speaker. She

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:40.480
<v Speaker 1>had she had AIDS. So this was in right freshly. Yeah,

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 1>and so that was much more of a topic. I

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:47.320
<v Speaker 1>think that it's talked about, was talked about then then

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:51.440
<v Speaker 1>it feels like it is now maybe, I mean I

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.879
<v Speaker 1>think so because AIDS. When did it like all kind

0:25:54.920 --> 0:26:00.119
<v Speaker 1>of become really big in the eighties. Probably, Yeah, it

0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 1>was a huge. There was a lot of confusion. You

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.399
<v Speaker 1>didn't know if you could just get it from hugging

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody or saliva kissing somebody. Yeah, there were so many questions.

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:14.120
<v Speaker 1>But I had a question because when she did her speech,

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>she said, ah, always use a condom, and foam, and

0:26:20.600 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, I didn't catch that either. Do

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>you guys know what fomas? It's called spermicide or something.

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:33.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I was just going to say that, but

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to be completely wrong. I think that

0:26:35.400 --> 0:26:38.880
<v Speaker 1>exists anymore. So I think maybe and maybe I'm wrong.

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 1>And this is just my own brain thinking, but what

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>if back in the day didn't make the condoms with

0:26:43.400 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>the spur you probably and then you have to spray

0:26:46.400 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>something foam and vaginal inserts are placed into the vagina.

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:56.280
<v Speaker 1>How do you how do you do that? Someone walked

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>me through, how do you unhealthy? How do you place

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a foam or vaginal insert into your vagina? Well, we'll

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 1>get you a book and likely in a moment. In

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the moment, I mean, I'm all for everyone using protection,

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>but you put a condom on and they were like,

0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and wait, I gotta put this vaginal insert foam, Like

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Between both of those things, it's like, okay,

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 1>forget it, which isn't a bad thing for teens. Maybe

0:27:25.600 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>it's like a pre phone situation, like your phone before

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:32.639
<v Speaker 1>you go, or I mean you should do You're going

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:37.280
<v Speaker 1>to be the spokesperson, the phone. I'm Jenny Gard and

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.640
<v Speaker 1>you should phone before you go. That was a good one.

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>You never want a phone on it before the date. Yeah,

0:27:50.680 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a new product. People are gonna be like, wait,

0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>we didn't see what they talked about it, but we

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.359
<v Speaker 1>checked their merch and it wasn't there. Where's the phone?

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 1>Enough about the phone? I can't take it anymore? And

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I thought that they like, we're talking about the emotional

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>aspects of what is involved when you do have sex

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>with someone a lot in this episode, which I thought

0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 1>was really good because I just really loved you know

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>who wrote this episode with Karen Rosen and I I

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:29.159
<v Speaker 1>felt like it had a woman's touch when it was

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:34.159
<v Speaker 1>talking about those you know, those moments when when Brenda

0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:37.760
<v Speaker 1>was saying, how does it feel in your heart? Though?

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>And and that scene between her and her mom about

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the connection and that the desire to have that kind

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>of connection, not just a physical connection, but a heart connection,

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know, I thought that was a really

0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>nicely done moment. You're so right between Brenda. I feel

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>like we predominantly had male writers, so it is nice

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>that Karen wrote that. Aaron Rosen, who is the wife

0:29:01.840 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>of Chuck rosen Our, our executive producer. She was great.

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:08.960
<v Speaker 1>She went on to write a bunch of episodes, so

0:29:09.200 --> 0:29:12.400
<v Speaker 1>I can't I look forward to rewatching those because I

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>liked her writing. I gotta say, even though it was

0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>like the early nineties, the sex talk stuff and how

0:29:18.920 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>a girl feels and how everyone feels the first time

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 1>or thinking about the first time, it holds up like

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I would show that to my kids and be like,

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>brend is a great example. Yeah, I mean, just showing

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 1>this episode that you don't have to have to talk

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:36.960
<v Speaker 1>with them there you go. No, but it always every

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 1>episode always goes to some heavy topic, you know. I

0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like every week after week, and so this week

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>it just kind of like the whole age they just

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>came out of nowhere, Like it was not expecting her

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 1>to say that. Well, Steve was trying to come on

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>to her for so many times, and so it just

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of like goes to show that the topics that

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I think your show handled. Yeah, for sure, I mean

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>it laid it on. Think we knew that that was

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna I don't think we knew that that was going

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>to become a thing on the show, None of us.

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>We Yeah, but as it started happening. I feel like

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>we all took a certain pride in that. Maybe we

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>laughed a little bit sometimes that like, oh my god,

0:30:17.400 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 1>now what's going to happen to me this week? You know,

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 1>important message going to be this week? But the show

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>had so much other stuff, so many other layers, and

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>like so much fun with the fashion and the characters

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>in the all the Beverly Hills of it all. Like

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it was a good balance. Maybe yeah,

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>definitely glamorized teens and where we lived. But at the

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:45.480
<v Speaker 1>same time, that's the driving thing, is the storylines that

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>everyone could really do no matter where you lived. Yeah,

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and again this was it was a cool thing that

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>kids started watching this with their parents because then they

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of opened that door to talk about, you know,

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>um what what they were scared to talk about. So

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was It's like a good conversation starter

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>hopefully for some parents. Totally, yeah, I think so. Plus

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 1>the fact that the speaker was exposed to aid time

0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>her very first time, and then there's Brenda and the

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 1>audiences thinking that could be me, that could happen to me,

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>and good good that she thought that, oh yeah, because

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>then she has that conversation with Dylan about getting checked

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>at the end of the episode. It's such a great

0:31:37.160 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>message because I feel like girls to to this day

0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>still think like, oh, what's the worst that could happen,

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:47.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, they think pregnancy, which is a huge life changer,

0:31:47.880 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>but they don't realize that there's something that could happen

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to you that you can die. So that was so

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 1>like WHOA, Like h yeah, and there's so many diseases

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and things now, like you have to protect yourself. I

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>loved it when Kyle Well jumping ahead to the favorite,

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>my favorite line of the episode, but when Kelly said,

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.840
<v Speaker 1>um rule number one, never rely on the guy, And

0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's good, Like girls should take care

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of themselves and no always first ladies, safety first. Girls.

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Wrong with boys? I feel like that's I want to

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 1>like teach my boys to always like step up and

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>be prepared, like don't be that guy. You know, I

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 1>don't think, Yeah, I mean I think just like girls

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 1>are more you know, aware and educated and more savvy.

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Now of course boys are too, And yeah, I mean

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't have boys, but I would have to assume

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that people that are raising young boys out there are

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>doing just as much work to protect them and to

0:32:56.320 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>teach them, I mean the responsibilities. Well, which goes to

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the big topics in this episode, double standards,

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:11.200
<v Speaker 1>because sometimes, and it's just part of society, parents treat

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>boys and girls a little bit differently when it comes

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>to sex. Yes, and that's what Jim did in and

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Brenda called him out on it, which was so cool. Wait,

0:33:24.920 --> 0:33:31.000
<v Speaker 1>yeah and brave, but she it's true he was. He

0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:33.040
<v Speaker 1>was saying it was okay for Brandon and and like,

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, you pat your son on the back and

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>give him a little wink. But but with your daughter,

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>her losing her virginity is a question of her morals.

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>Brandon's girlfriend got to sleep in the house, got to

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, they knew what was happening, Like Jim to

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>do something about your son, and he's like, like it

0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>was fine, you know with Brenda, like they were just

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.239
<v Speaker 1>like no, well not Cindy, but Jim. Yeah, I mean,

0:34:03.320 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 1>daddy's an old girl. It's hard, but there is I

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>stuck around in high school for that reason. You know,

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>you never wanted my dad to really know what I

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:20.760
<v Speaker 1>was up to. Oh break his heart, my little sweet Sistan.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>He would never do that. Important message you guys when

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.560
<v Speaker 1>your teen is of that age and leaving the house,

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>slip on mcondom and if you got and if you've

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>got some fun, what do you mean? I feel like

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.400
<v Speaker 1>it's better. It's so interesting, Like I would definitely tell

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>my husband to do it, like with our sons at

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that age, but like they're going on a date, I

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Better they have it and are prepared it

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>then then it's embarrassing. It's like it's not comfortable for anyone,

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the teen or the parent. But again, you'd rather them

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 1>use it and have it there than being like, oh,

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I didn't get it because I was embarrassed to go

0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>somewhere and buy it. So now we're in this position

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's okay, maybe it'll just be fine. You don't

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>want that to happen. I guess well, you guys are

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:14.479
<v Speaker 1>closer there than I am. This podcast just got really deep.

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 1>It's just a lot to think about going on. Deal

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 1>with it now, you know, just like you just do

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.919
<v Speaker 1>your best as a parent. You you do your best.

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:34.200
<v Speaker 1>You give them all the things that you learned and

0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 1>all the things that you wish you had learned, and

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:40.360
<v Speaker 1>you you know, arm them with with all of that

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and say a little prayer. You know, you can only

0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>do your best, and then you have to just sort

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 1>of let them live their life to a certain extent,

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>or you tie them up and lock them in the

0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>basement either or in a warehouse and band eyes like

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>for ten years, right, thank god they locked me up

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>in that stage for ten years. Think of the trouble

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I could have gotten. Imagine I you know what I

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>do think about that sometimes, Like we were working so

0:36:14.160 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 1>hard from such a young age, Like what if we

0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 1>had just I don't know. I don't think either of

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>us are that type of girl, but who knows. You

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know the trouble like teens came into You're easily

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:27.239
<v Speaker 1>persuaded and talked into things at a young age that

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.040
<v Speaker 1>aren't good judgment, Like, thank god we had that structure

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>of that show when you guys would film scenes that

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>were not there at that place and they were on location.

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Like you're mentioning, um the theater where Brenda's waiting for

0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it's unvent terrible. But yeah, then when she goes to

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>go supposedly meet up with Dylan for her date, and

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.839
<v Speaker 1>then it's left there for two hours waiting for him,

0:36:56.880 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>and he never shows up. Would you wait for twos?

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:01.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'd wait for two hours, would

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:08.759
<v Speaker 1>never admit pret Dylan McKay exactly, But she waited that

0:37:09.200 --> 0:37:11.799
<v Speaker 1>that movie theater is. Yeah, it's on venturable of art.

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>It's like a it's like a store building and it's

0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>still there. But it's not a movie theater anymore. I

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think it used to be Barnes and Noble, but

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Barnes and Noble. Oh, it's the Barnes and Noble and

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>no one wait, okay, so it's not the one that

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>used to be a bookstore. Was a movie theater. Then

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>it used to be a bookstore and then it closed

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>down and now it's like a med spa. It's not

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that one. No, no, it's not that one. It's the

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:43.359
<v Speaker 1>one that's still a bookstore over by Laurel Canyon. It's

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 1>still Barnes and Noble, and I know, which looks exactly

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the come on the outside. But when you guys would go,

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>so let's say that was where you had to go,

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 1>would you drive yourself to those locations or would you

0:37:53.360 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>like busting or drive? I mean depending. We would sometimes

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 1>drive to set In Park on by the they called

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:03.320
<v Speaker 1>like the base camp where they have all the trailers,

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the you know, makeup trailer and wardrobe trailer and the

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 1>lightning trailer, all the things. They call that area like

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>the base camp, and so you'd park there. But sometimes

0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 1>if you if we were like shooting on set, then

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 1>they would just put us sticks in a van and

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>drive us to where we had to be. They stuck

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>her in a van, tied her up in the warehouse,

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 1>and stuck her in a van. There what a fun

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>gig for you guys to be that age, And explained

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:34.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot like in a fun way, like always going

0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to new places. Yeah, yeah, but it was there was

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 1>so much all the time. Do you ever feel like

0:38:42.120 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>to like we were as in this industry? Like you

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>go from set to set to movie to show, to

0:38:52.040 --> 0:38:54.640
<v Speaker 1>job to job, joblin and they're always different. It's always

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.760
<v Speaker 1>a different group of people and it's always a different character.

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:05.319
<v Speaker 1>So I feel like so much of my life has

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 1>been spent on the move or like jumping from thing

0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:15.279
<v Speaker 1>to thing, that it never really settled into anything in particular,

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>Like there was never a normal like a baseline for

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>me after a while, because it was just it just

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:26.759
<v Speaker 1>becomes this like whirlwind, and you're always on the move

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and always making new friends and meeting new friends and

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>then leaving those friends and never really seeing those friends

0:39:32.320 --> 0:39:35.359
<v Speaker 1>again for the most part. Or you know, it's such

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 1>a weird industry. It's like, yeah, it's like it's like

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 1>being in the military, like always on the move, military family.

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, completely different. And I'm not making fun of that,

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just saying just the lifestyle is you never

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 1>completely let your heart settle in because you know that

0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be on But I mean, probably nine

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.800
<v Speaker 1>out of all the things you've done, probably natural was

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:05.800
<v Speaker 1>the most. I mean that was pretty consecutive. And I

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>think like during that time when she's referring to is

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 1>like on summer breaks or winter breaks, we would do

0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:13.680
<v Speaker 1>like TV movies or movies and do other things that

0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, you you dive in fast. You guys, like

0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.239
<v Speaker 1>you give your heart and soul and just commit to

0:40:19.320 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone there, and all of a sudden, it's like joining

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:22.759
<v Speaker 1>a new school. You go to a new school and

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you just like, but everything is really fast, so it

0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:27.840
<v Speaker 1>like speeds it up the process of like settling in

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and getting to know people and getting accepted. But this

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.800
<v Speaker 1>is probably the one, the one that was like the longest,

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>so there's no breaks for you. When you took a

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>break from around to know, you jumped right into another project.

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:41.480
<v Speaker 1>We're all busy working every higatus every break. But I

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 1>mean that was a conscious choice and we wouldn't see

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>each other that much because we were given these opportunities

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to go do movies of the week and star and

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>then produced them, and you know, it was such so

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>many amazing opportunities. Did you ever think that period of time,

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>like you we were young, did you ever think like, hey,

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:01.360
<v Speaker 1>it's summer, I want to go take a vacation or

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to There's some people that did do that.

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>You and I never did that, Like we were just

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 1>like great work, let's go continue work, work work. Yeah.

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:14.439
<v Speaker 1>I would always I mean because I had my first kid,

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:19.200
<v Speaker 1>like soon into the sh maybe god soon, I don't

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:21.440
<v Speaker 1>even know how many years it was before I had

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>a first baby, but once I had a baby, I

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.200
<v Speaker 1>would always try to plan like a little family time

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and then before you know, before going on to another

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>show and then you come back and you're right back

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>into night or two. And I kind of like that.

0:41:33.400 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 1>I like that. I was always busy and me to

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>have time to but I never thought twice about it,

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>like we should have been. Like you see people now

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:45.279
<v Speaker 1>on hit shows and when they have breaks, they're taking

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 1>these amazing vacations around the world because they're making great

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>money and they're big celebrities, and like looking back and like,

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it wasn't ever our mindset, which is great.

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 1>We're both very driven. We still are. I think that's

0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 1>another thing that like binds us to each other. You

0:42:03.280 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 1>know that we have that work ethic. But it would

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 1>have been nice to be like, hey, I'm just taking

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.959
<v Speaker 1>like going to Europe for twenty days in the middle

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:15.799
<v Speaker 1>of our summer and just like Emily in Paris live

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>a little. I noticed that with you guys because um,

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 1>around the holidays, we didn't really talk about it, but

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I wonder if we're gonna stop down and

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 1>we're just not going to do any shows. Nope, we're

0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 1>all we almost recorded a podcast on Christmas Eve, Like wow,

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:38.839
<v Speaker 1>we always make time for work somehow, yep. And that's yeah,

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:41.160
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting to know that from a young age though,

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.880
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, work ethic. Yeah, the boys took breaks, they

0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>took vacations. I feel like Shannon took vacations. Like I

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like you and I were the two that really

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:58.160
<v Speaker 1>always did movies of the week. Yeah, because once you

0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>did one and it was like they wanted you to

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>do another one, and you would just get offered things

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>and sent scripts and stuff. I think I've seen these

0:43:07.000 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>movies of the week that there was. There was a

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>time when movies of the week were like it was

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:17.800
<v Speaker 1>everybody was doing it, are they Oh yeah, they're on lifetime.

0:43:17.840 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>All of ours are in lifetime. Now lifetimes always playing.

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 1>But like during the nineties and the time time, like

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:29.320
<v Speaker 1>they would be for like NBC or CBS or ABC

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.239
<v Speaker 1>it was or Fox, you know, it would they would

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:34.560
<v Speaker 1>go up against like Monday night football. It would be

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:38.160
<v Speaker 1>like the female alternative, like and we would take viewers

0:43:38.200 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>away from football. Like it was a big deal Movies

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 1>of the week, And that's why they were titled movies

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:44.440
<v Speaker 1>of the week. Like there would be one night that

0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 1>networks would air their movies of the week, like Monday Night. Um,

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:51.680
<v Speaker 1>now they're just like TV movies. But also there was

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:55.120
<v Speaker 1>that thing that you know you were going you were

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>like you had the power that they always wanted you.

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>You would get these straight offers. He didn't want to

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 1>not do it because you didn't want to not be relevant.

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Like what would happen if we like went one summer

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:10.320
<v Speaker 1>and didn't do a TV movie. Like it was a

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit of that, right, We probably felt like that

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>would be it. Well, we'll never work again in this

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:19.359
<v Speaker 1>town again. Imagine thinking that at like eighteen, at that age,

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>mm hmm. Yeah, that was It was a lot, definitely,

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:28.080
<v Speaker 1>But I I feel like there was so much that

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 1>we learned from doing that too. I mean, we learned

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to beat bosses because we had to. We had to

0:44:33.719 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>learn to suck it up and do what was expected

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>of us and you know, call the shots. And I

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 1>think that because we started, I mean I started. I know,

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>you probably did two tours started producing the movies that

0:44:48.320 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I was doing, and uh, you learn what it's like

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:57.800
<v Speaker 1>to have more control over your works. You have a

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:03.839
<v Speaker 1>voice and people listen to you. It was really nice.

0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 1>It was really productive, But gosh, I don't those hours

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>that we worked. I mean we worked crazy hours. And

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>then to think, like on Christmas break you would film

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 1>like all night and then like fly to Canada the

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.879
<v Speaker 1>next morning and go right into production on a TV movie.

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:22.200
<v Speaker 1>And then come back and go right back to nine

0:45:22.280 --> 0:45:24.200
<v Speaker 1>or two now after maybe having like a day off

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 1>for Christmas in the day after New Year, like it

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:29.560
<v Speaker 1>was just what. I don't know, but those are the

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>years you should be hustling in any industry, like whatever

0:45:32.560 --> 0:45:35.399
<v Speaker 1>profession you do, whether it's like in your guys case, TV,

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>but like for me it was radio. I got in

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>at nineteen and I never took any breaks either. I

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't go on any vacations. I worked holidays for five years.

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like, you can't just pay your dues,

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>and so it's interesting that you guys still paid your

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 1>dues even though you're on this hit show. Yeah, it's weird.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think every everybody has their own experience

0:45:54.200 --> 0:45:56.000
<v Speaker 1>of that. Yeah, for sure. No matter what it is

0:45:56.080 --> 0:46:01.080
<v Speaker 1>that you're chosen career path, is you gotta work hard

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:03.919
<v Speaker 1>when you're young, and then you learn to like slow

0:46:04.000 --> 0:46:08.920
<v Speaker 1>down and prioritize, and you get a family and you

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>get other responsibilities of other interests, and you you learn

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:15.759
<v Speaker 1>to like make other things important in your life too,

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 1>which kind of creates a nice balance, because I don't

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:20.759
<v Speaker 1>really feel like that's a very balanced way to live

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>for very long you know it's hard for some Yeah.

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean during that time I had other friends that

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:32.800
<v Speaker 1>weren't in the business, and they were going to college

0:46:32.920 --> 0:46:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and you know, coming home and having like fun and

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>going out, and that wasn't our life. You know, we

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>had fun, but it was just a very different life

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 1>than other kids our age. Did it feel like you

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:51.120
<v Speaker 1>went to college though, totally played it on TV? What

0:46:51.200 --> 0:46:53.759
<v Speaker 1>do you mean I graduated from California University. I've told

0:46:53.800 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 1>you this, it's real to me. I have the diploma.

0:46:56.480 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I have Donna Martin's diploma. By the way, I've in

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 1>story and it says Donna Martin graduated California University. It's

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>had something like a degree in science arts like that

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:08.959
<v Speaker 1>would never be her. I don't know why it says

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.400
<v Speaker 1>that on there, like they were making a show. Props

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 1>was like, we're gonna make it funny Donna Martin, which

0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:19.680
<v Speaker 1>is not that smart, like et real you have that

0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that Well, we have to take a break. Um, I

0:47:24.640 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>do want to come back. We have some questions from

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>listeners and we haven't touched on fashion or any of

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>our favorite lines from the show, and there's a few

0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:46.279
<v Speaker 1>of them. So we'll be our background Okay, so should

0:47:46.280 --> 0:47:51.080
<v Speaker 1>we talk about fashion, guys? We should have fashion? Mm hmm.

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.800
<v Speaker 1>What did you think was like the standout fashion of

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:57.879
<v Speaker 1>this episode? I feel like it was a pretty even

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.280
<v Speaker 1>keeled episode as far as the fashion. There wasn't anything

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to like. Jarring Dylan's jarring. See that was my favorite.

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:10.359
<v Speaker 1>That was very like say anything John Cusack like from

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>the eighties, right, Yeah, I loved it. Looks so great

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and staring out of the room Brenda around her like

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 1>that's like I want boys to bring back trench coats now,

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>why not? What was your favorite? Steve was colorful? I

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 1>know your favorite again with the tucked in blouses on

0:48:30.480 --> 0:48:34.640
<v Speaker 1>on Steve sands a little and the little pants that

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:37.680
<v Speaker 1>were so snug and a little tushy and he didn't

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 1>know where you're going with that. I don't know why

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:46.440
<v Speaker 1>were you looking at his tushy? Well, because when he okay,

0:48:46.600 --> 0:48:50.000
<v Speaker 1>when he was in the hotel room with the speaker

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:55.200
<v Speaker 1>friend girl and uh and he just walked turned around

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:59.239
<v Speaker 1>and walked out so confidently, And I really felpposed to

0:48:59.360 --> 0:49:03.200
<v Speaker 1>look at his The Steve Sanders strut, which is also

0:49:03.320 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the Irons eerng strut. Yeah, um, the Brenda makeover was

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 1>fun with you guys fashion montage. The way they sped

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:16.360
<v Speaker 1>it up super cute. That was really cute like that.

0:49:16.560 --> 0:49:18.919
<v Speaker 1>We probably had so much fun filming that, right, I'm

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 1>sure like that's that feels like such a YouTube like

0:49:22.120 --> 0:49:24.320
<v Speaker 1>TikTok movement now and we did it then like the

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:27.840
<v Speaker 1>speed up, like getting the girl dressed. Um, can we

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:30.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about Brenda's fashion because I feel like you have

0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:34.160
<v Speaker 1>an ode to it today? Oh right, I'm today I'm

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:38.960
<v Speaker 1>wearing she inspired me on my shirt choice. Uh that

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 1>you guys know what an air tie is, right? Do

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you know that air tight? This is an air tie

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>when you but in your shirt all the way up

0:49:47.920 --> 0:49:49.600
<v Speaker 1>to the top and you don't wear a tie. Oh

0:49:49.680 --> 0:49:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that, but it's it's like an I

0:49:52.560 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know. They call it an air tie. All the

0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 1>hipsters are wearing it these days. But Brenda, Yeah, and

0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:01.040
<v Speaker 1>you got bright red lips onto Inda was rock in

0:50:01.120 --> 0:50:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the air tie back in the nineties. That must be

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 1>where it came from the nineties. Probably everything came from

0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the nineties. Um, and her jean shorts like the infamous

0:50:15.120 --> 0:50:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Jane shorts. She looked great like when Dylan eyed her

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>up and down those legs, those Jeane shorts, those scrunchy socks.

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like the whole episode it was all

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 1>about that she looked great. She was wearing your socks,

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't you. Didn't you let her borrow that? You're so mean.

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 1>So we were working last week and I wore scrunchy

0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.880
<v Speaker 1>socks because they're back in everything from the nineties. I

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:39.879
<v Speaker 1>got them with my girls at Journey and I wore

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:41.600
<v Speaker 1>them last week, and she just like I knew she

0:50:41.680 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>was gonna hate my off. And I just knew it.

0:50:43.160 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I was like and one, and two and the three,

0:50:46.280 --> 0:50:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and she's like, you wore those scrunchy socks just to

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:54.440
<v Speaker 1>piss me off. You thought him a journey, Yeah, the

0:50:54.560 --> 0:51:00.280
<v Speaker 1>store journey from still around. Wow, you can go shopping

0:51:00.360 --> 0:51:03.759
<v Speaker 1>right now. I didn't even know that you can, but

0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I should get out. You won't like it, but it's

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:13.080
<v Speaker 1>somewhere deep down. I knew that morning when I got dressed,

0:51:13.160 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I did, I somewhat put those scrunchy socks on because

0:51:16.040 --> 0:51:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I knew it would send my best friend over the edge.

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 1>And I love that she would notice. And I knew

0:51:20.719 --> 0:51:22.440
<v Speaker 1>that she would notice. And that's how tight. We are

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>you guys? Any favorite lines already said mine about Kelly

0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:31.879
<v Speaker 1>Kelly saying rule number one, never rely on the guy.

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I like that one. What about you? Um one was

0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:38.719
<v Speaker 1>good that Brenda said to her dad. We kind of

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 1>talked about it, but the actual line was and if

0:51:41.680 --> 0:51:44.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm ready first, then what should I lie and sneak around?

0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.880
<v Speaker 1>When he was talking to her about the double standard?

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Really great thing to say. Good job, Karen Rosen. I felt,

0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to quote this verbatim and I didn't

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 1>write it down. But when she's looking at Dylan and talking,

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 1>Brenda's looking at Dylan from the balcony and talking to

0:52:04.120 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Kelly and she's like, uh, and Kelly's like you need

0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:08.000
<v Speaker 1>to go, like, go have a bubble bath. She's like

0:52:08.040 --> 0:52:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I need more than that, and you go, oh, did

0:52:12.200 --> 0:52:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I get that right? There was another one in the

0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:20.560
<v Speaker 1>hallway when when uh, Brenda and Kelly were walking down

0:52:20.600 --> 0:52:23.759
<v Speaker 1>the hall and something about being pinned. Oh she I said,

0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you're dating now and she was like it was just

0:52:25.680 --> 0:52:27.160
<v Speaker 1>one day. I said we're going on another one, so

0:52:27.200 --> 0:52:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you're officially dating. And then she goes, what what am I?

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:32.839
<v Speaker 1>What is? What's next season gonna pin me and Kelly

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:43.239
<v Speaker 1>goes hopefully to a mattress. Kelly had some singers. She's so,

0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:46.560
<v Speaker 1>we have some questions, but however, we just have time

0:52:46.600 --> 0:52:50.000
<v Speaker 1>for one. Do you guys see them or do you

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>have a one? You have one that you would rather answer.

0:52:56.640 --> 0:53:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, let's talk about Courtney's questions. What's wrong? Okay? Yeah,

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean you know what. I was gonna let you decide.

0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:08.080
<v Speaker 1>So there we go. So Courtney is asking, could you

0:53:08.160 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 1>talk more about friendships with Shannon? Wasn't Tory friends with

0:53:11.719 --> 0:53:13.560
<v Speaker 1>her in the beginning and then they went out to

0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:17.839
<v Speaker 1>clubs together? Where Jenny and Shannon ever friendly or were

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:21.520
<v Speaker 1>they too different? Did the three of you ever hang out? Yes,

0:53:21.719 --> 0:53:25.720
<v Speaker 1>we totally hung out. We were friends. There were really

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:30.120
<v Speaker 1>great moments when it was the three of us. I

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:33.040
<v Speaker 1>have great memories of us all hanging out and laughing

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:35.800
<v Speaker 1>and like doing that scene in this episode. Whenever we

0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:38.399
<v Speaker 1>worked together, we had a great time. But we did.

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:40.719
<v Speaker 1>There was plenty of times when the three of us

0:53:40.800 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>went out, I like went out to clubs together. Like,

0:53:47.520 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 1>I definitely had very different friendships with each of them.

0:53:52.960 --> 0:53:55.520
<v Speaker 1>I had kind of my friendship with Shannon and my

0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:58.960
<v Speaker 1>friendship with Jen and then they would merge all of

0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:01.240
<v Speaker 1>us because we were together all the time. That's what happens.

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:04.640
<v Speaker 1>But um, yeah I did. I did go to like

0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 1>the Roxberry and bar One a lot with Shannon. She

0:54:10.040 --> 0:54:11.840
<v Speaker 1>was like older than me when I stay older, I

0:54:11.920 --> 0:54:14.120
<v Speaker 1>mean only like two years only two years older. But

0:54:15.120 --> 0:54:16.960
<v Speaker 1>she was cool and like she'd be like, oh, my

0:54:17.040 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 1>friends and I are going to like the Roxbury, And

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to fit in so bad because I was

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:22.960
<v Speaker 1>like just a little bit too young to be doing

0:54:22.960 --> 0:54:24.879
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. And I'd be like, oh god, she's

0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 1>taking me the Roxberry. You know, it's just like, oh cool.

0:54:30.600 --> 0:54:33.200
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like Jen and I had the relationship.

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:36.960
<v Speaker 1>We like did things like at the same level. Does

0:54:37.000 --> 0:54:39.439
<v Speaker 1>that make sense, Like bond at the same time about

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.520
<v Speaker 1>things at the same time. Like Shannon was kind of

0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 1>like an aspiration to me because I was like she

0:54:43.239 --> 0:54:44.920
<v Speaker 1>was the older cool kid even though she was only

0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:50.680
<v Speaker 1>two years older. Yeah, And Shannon and I we had

0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:54.200
<v Speaker 1>great We had great times together, and we also had

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:56.640
<v Speaker 1>times that weren't as great because we were just too

0:54:57.520 --> 0:55:03.080
<v Speaker 1>Um we're two aries women, two very I did not

0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:09.719
<v Speaker 1>know that we're both very strong minded, and um, I

0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 1>think that that sometimes it would just make us like

0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>two rams, you know, we would lock horns sometimes and

0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 1>um and would that be with like things that were

0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 1>happening on the show or in your personal lives? Not really.

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it was always like show related, whether it

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:31.120
<v Speaker 1>was on camera, off camera, behind the scenes or whatever

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that became personal. It's never about personal life because we

0:55:35.280 --> 0:55:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think Shannon and I ever hung out on

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:43.840
<v Speaker 1>a personal level too often, just the two of us

0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that I recall, but um, yeah, we would work it out.

0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 1>We would we would somehow work it out, and we

0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 1>continue that, you know, we're working relationship. I felt like

0:55:56.719 --> 0:55:58.800
<v Speaker 1>it went as good as it could go in with

0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 1>those circumstances. And I it's just like high school, you guys,

0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:05.560
<v Speaker 1>this happens, and they're both very strong or like alpha

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:09.759
<v Speaker 1>alpha women, you know, they speak their mind, and I'm

0:56:09.840 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 1>like the tourists, that's just like everyone get along, and

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:16.439
<v Speaker 1>so they were all I would just remember. There would

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 1>be times when they would kind of bump heads about things,

0:56:19.200 --> 0:56:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it was always Stoll related, but it felt

0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:24.239
<v Speaker 1>personal when it would go beyond that, and I would

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 1>just be in the middle, like, oh my god, it's

0:56:25.640 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 1>my two best friends, like, just get along. I want

0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.160
<v Speaker 1>you to be happy. I want you to be happy.

0:56:29.239 --> 0:56:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm stuck in the middle. Would you guys, like um,

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 1>between the four of you girls, even Gabrielle, would you

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 1>guys ever fight about clothes or was it always specific

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:42.279
<v Speaker 1>like Kelly's alphite or these or Donna's alphite or these,

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 1>or like, would you fightly like I was supposed to

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:47.720
<v Speaker 1>wear that top in the scene or whatever? He of course,

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 1>really there were wardrobe battles, makeup hair battles, why is

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:56.799
<v Speaker 1>she wearing her hair? Like, Okay, I was gonna wear

0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:59.560
<v Speaker 1>my I mean, I don't remember anything specifically, but I

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:05.040
<v Speaker 1>love it. We do remember the Red Dress incident? I do,

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 1>but I think I don't really remember acture because everyone

0:57:08.520 --> 0:57:10.719
<v Speaker 1>has their perception of how something happens, and then it's

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:14.200
<v Speaker 1>heightened once it starts to become a story and you're like, wait,

0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:17.080
<v Speaker 1>how did it actually begin? How did it actually happen?

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:20.040
<v Speaker 1>And we call it the red dress incident because the

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:23.480
<v Speaker 1>boys made it bigger like than it was. But pretty

0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:27.920
<v Speaker 1>much it was a photo shoot. It was a photo shoot,

0:57:28.160 --> 0:57:30.800
<v Speaker 1>and we we've discussed this. Those were the days we

0:57:30.880 --> 0:57:34.200
<v Speaker 1>were all on set together, all working hard, the whole

0:57:34.320 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 1>day and um taking photos, which is a lot of pressure,

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 1>especially for girls, like you want to look good? How

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:43.080
<v Speaker 1>do I look? Um? And they didn't want everyone in

0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 1>the same color, and we don't exactly all see it

0:57:46.680 --> 0:57:48.920
<v Speaker 1>the same way, but it was pretty much, you know,

0:57:49.440 --> 0:57:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it was one of those days when it was like no,

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:56.680
<v Speaker 1>everyone kind of stood up for themselves and going back

0:57:56.760 --> 0:57:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the wardrobe, people shouldn't have given everyone choices if they

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:01.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to want to wear the same color. We

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:02.880
<v Speaker 1>each had our section and we each had a red

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 1>dress in it, and we each picked the red dress,

0:58:05.800 --> 0:58:08.800
<v Speaker 1>and then so we all we've all come out with it.

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:10.760
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't just you and I are was it

0:58:11.240 --> 0:58:16.400
<v Speaker 1>the three of us? I think originally it was Shannon,

0:58:16.520 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>wasn't It was involved somehow, and then she chose the

0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:23.560
<v Speaker 1>black dress, and then you and I were both you

0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:26.160
<v Speaker 1>you were riled up because you were like, I thought

0:58:26.200 --> 0:58:27.959
<v Speaker 1>they had asked you to change because she had wanted

0:58:28.000 --> 0:58:31.240
<v Speaker 1>to wear a red dress, and you were like, no,

0:58:31.440 --> 0:58:33.439
<v Speaker 1>that's not fair, Like I feel good in this dress,

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I have it on, it was in my section, I'm

0:58:35.080 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 1>going to wear it. And then she changed, but simultaneously,

0:58:38.720 --> 0:58:40.520
<v Speaker 1>because you had it on. They had asked me to

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:42.840
<v Speaker 1>not wear the red dress, and I was like, I

0:58:42.880 --> 0:58:45.440
<v Speaker 1>always get along with everyone. I always say yes to everything.

0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Today I'm wearing the red dress. And it ended up

0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:52.160
<v Speaker 1>being a battle between Jen and I which we never fought,

0:58:52.560 --> 0:58:54.840
<v Speaker 1>which was so strange. So if you look at that

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:58.360
<v Speaker 1>picture of that photo shoot, which was like our you know,

0:58:58.560 --> 0:59:02.560
<v Speaker 1>cast photo for the year, it's her, Tory and I

0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:05.080
<v Speaker 1>both in red dresses, and Shannon and the black dress,

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:08.360
<v Speaker 1>and Tory and I are like, like, we're peeved at

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:11.919
<v Speaker 1>each other. You can just tell there's tension. Oh my god,

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I can see it right you literally google. And they

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:17.920
<v Speaker 1>separated us in the photo on other ends because they

0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:19.720
<v Speaker 1>were like, Okay, let's make this work. They're both in

0:59:19.760 --> 0:59:22.800
<v Speaker 1>red dresses and they're upset. But the boys, by the

0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:25.760
<v Speaker 1>time we came to set, we were both already fired up.

0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:27.720
<v Speaker 1>And it kind of didn't even start with us but

0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:30.800
<v Speaker 1>ended with us. Um by the time we got to set,

0:59:30.920 --> 0:59:33.160
<v Speaker 1>we were like upset, and then the boys were like,

0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:36.760
<v Speaker 1>that's it. And the boys are like, I want to

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 1>wear the red dress. No, I'm wearing the red dress.

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:41.440
<v Speaker 1>And they were saying that in this photo while we're

0:59:41.440 --> 0:59:43.840
<v Speaker 1>taking photos, they'd be like and cheese photo and they'd

0:59:43.840 --> 0:59:45.400
<v Speaker 1>be like, I want to wear the red dress, and

0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:49.720
<v Speaker 1>we were both just like, oh, by the way. For

0:59:49.800 --> 0:59:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the season, that was season's until the

0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:55.120
<v Speaker 1>end of the show, that was the fight, like the

0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:58.200
<v Speaker 1>boys always so much that we brought it back for

0:59:58.360 --> 1:00:02.240
<v Speaker 1>the friviation kind of use that as for for a

1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:05.320
<v Speaker 1>scene where we are um but that wasn't in the show.

1:00:06.120 --> 1:00:07.960
<v Speaker 1>Behind the shot, yeah, but we brought it into b

1:00:08.080 --> 1:00:09.800
<v Speaker 1>HN tourno that we all three show up in a

1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:12.280
<v Speaker 1>red dress. Because to this day, even when we were

1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:14.680
<v Speaker 1>starting bhnot Tourno, as soon as we'd get in like

1:00:14.840 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 1>rooms and like all having dinner or like drinks, the

1:00:17.440 --> 1:00:19.560
<v Speaker 1>boys would still be like, I'm wearing the red dress.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like WHOA thirty years later, you guys are

1:00:21.720 --> 1:00:24.360
<v Speaker 1>still saying that, and it's still got us piste off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's riling me up right now, offlustered right now us.

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<v Speaker 1>I think because of that, I couldn't wear a red

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<v Speaker 1>dress out publicly anymore, Like I was just so scarred.

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<v Speaker 1>Red dress. Well, you look really beautiful in red, so

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<v Speaker 1>you should you should wear red d two and and

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't wear it when what do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>just stand on the other side of me, like somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>else in the picture. I feel like for our I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like for a Galantine's Day, we should both wear

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<v Speaker 1>red and then talking. Oh my god, us, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should end with that. Ladies, there's no question. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't ask us. You guys, we will. We will talk

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<v Speaker 1>about all your questions. Like I picked that question because

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like people wanted to know that, and like

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we don't want to talk about it, or like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but let's talk about it. Why not? So

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<v Speaker 1>send us questions. I think as a fan, you heard

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<v Speaker 1>all these rumors and you just just didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>was true, especially because there was no love that you

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<v Speaker 1>can google on the red dress fight and it comes up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. I literally nine O two and oh read

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<v Speaker 1>and address, and then as I was writing dress, it

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<v Speaker 1>suggested fight historical wardrobe malfunction. Okay, Episode eleven is the

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<v Speaker 1>homework assignment. Yep, you have a whole week to watch

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<v Speaker 1>episode eleven and then we will convene and we will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it. Break it down, break it down, and

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