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Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey you guys,

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Speaker 1: here we are on the nine o two one OMG

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Speaker 1: podcast with my best friend and my new bestie. It

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Speaker 1: is Jenny Garth and I'm Tori Spelling and Hi, Hi beautiful.

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Speaker 1: How are you fine? Ladies? How how is everybody? That's

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Speaker 1: my question? Good? I love on our zoom. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if your zoom is like this, but mine right

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Speaker 1: now it's sis. You're just like you're a book ended

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Speaker 1: by two blondes. Just love it. You know, I have

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Speaker 1: highlights in my hair but you can't see them. I

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Speaker 1: want to, but I just love that. I feel like

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Speaker 1: you could go even more. We'll talk about it for summer.

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Speaker 1: I have been almost your guys this color. I did

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Speaker 1: it once and it was crazy, but it was just

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Speaker 1: so much of an upkeep. But how did you feel?

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Speaker 1: Do you feel blonds have more fun? I think do?

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Speaker 1: I think that blondes do have more fun. I know,

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Speaker 1: I think blonds do have more fun, for sure, but

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Speaker 1: I think brunettes get taken more seriously. That's interesting. I

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Speaker 1: believe she's right. I think you stand out of your

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Speaker 1: so yeah, but I just I colored my hair totally

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Speaker 1: dark ones and I wasn't a fan. You weren't a fan.

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Speaker 1: But I was a fan because I could go anywhere

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Speaker 1: saying instead of what looking at me? That's it was crazy,

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Speaker 1: really weird. Like we can just put a bag over

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Speaker 1: have to change your hair. Hey, that wouldn't draw any

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Speaker 1: attention you guys. We have some really exciting news. Oh

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Speaker 1: we do, we do, we do exciting things. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: first things first, Okay, so we you guys asked. First

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Speaker 1: of all, this is for you, guys, seriously, you asked

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Speaker 1: about it, so we're delivering it to you. We are

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Speaker 1: having our very first live virtual events for our podcast.

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Speaker 1: And it's February at five pm. It is Gallantine's Stay

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Speaker 1: Together or Guy in Time or Guy in Tins or

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Speaker 1: yeah g day. Anybody can come is basically what yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So if you guys want to join us and hang out,

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Speaker 1: and um, I don't know what a live podcast is,

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Speaker 1: but we're going to find out. If you guys want

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Speaker 1: or you can always just go to our Instagram page

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Speaker 1: and click in the bio and get all the info there.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and it's gonna be really exciting. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna so we're gonna do that week our episode recap

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Speaker 1: rewatch with you guys. But we're gonna do it five obviously,

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Speaker 1: and sadly obviously live right now means over the computer,

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Speaker 1: but we'll be there in spirit and hopefully one day

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Speaker 1: we can all do it together in person. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: be taking virtual pictures with you though. And uh, we

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Speaker 1: have some special guests who's going to be there? Oh wait,

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Speaker 1: should we tell them who our special guest is going

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Speaker 1: guests is iron Zer, our boy bestie iron zerring Steve Sanders.

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Speaker 1: You guys, it's gonna be so fun. You know. If

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Speaker 1: he is uh in the house, things are going to

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Speaker 1: get a little crazy. I don't feel like anyone's ever

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Speaker 1: seen the three of us, just the three of us,

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Speaker 1: because we like, we have personal nights just the three

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Speaker 1: and OMG podcast her program. Yeah, okay, we did all

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Speaker 1: You guys, should we just do it? I've been waiting

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Speaker 1: for this. That's a major episode in the history of

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Speaker 1: a big one. I think so too. This is episode ten.

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Speaker 1: It's called Isn't it mantic and it aired on January.

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Speaker 1: Tell him what it's about. Well, while Brandon is wary,

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Speaker 1: So the episode opens up with Brandon and Dylan working

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Speaker 1: instant flirting between them too. They had been flirting for

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Speaker 1: she said, ah, always use a condom, and foam, and

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00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I didn't catch that either. Do

424
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: you guys know what fomas? It's called spermicide or something.

425
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 1: It's like, I was just going to say that, but

426
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be completely wrong. I think that

427
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 1: exists anymore. So I think maybe and maybe I'm wrong.

428
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: And this is just my own brain thinking, but what

429
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: if back in the day didn't make the condoms with

430
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: the spur you probably and then you have to spray

431
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: something foam and vaginal inserts are placed into the vagina.

432
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: How do you how do you do that? Someone walked

433
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: me through, how do you unhealthy? How do you place

434
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: a foam or vaginal insert into your vagina? Well, we'll

435
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: get you a book and likely in a moment. In

436
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: the moment, I mean, I'm all for everyone using protection,

437
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: but you put a condom on and they were like,

438
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: and wait, I gotta put this vaginal insert foam, Like

439
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Between both of those things, it's like, okay,

440
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: forget it, which isn't a bad thing for teens. Maybe

441
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: it's like a pre phone situation, like your phone before

442
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: you go, or I mean you should do You're going

443
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: to be the spokesperson, the phone. I'm Jenny Gard and

444
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: you should phone before you go. That was a good one.

445
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: You never want a phone on it before the date. Yeah,

446
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: it's a new product. People are gonna be like, wait,

447
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: we didn't see what they talked about it, but we

448
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: checked their merch and it wasn't there. Where's the phone?

449
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: Enough about the phone? I can't take it anymore? And

450
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: I thought that they like, we're talking about the emotional

451
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: aspects of what is involved when you do have sex

452
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: with someone a lot in this episode, which I thought

453
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: was really good because I just really loved you know

454
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: who wrote this episode with Karen Rosen and I I

455
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 1: felt like it had a woman's touch when it was

456
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: talking about those you know, those moments when when Brenda

457
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: was saying, how does it feel in your heart? Though?

458
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: And and that scene between her and her mom about

459
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: the connection and that the desire to have that kind

460
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: of connection, not just a physical connection, but a heart connection,

461
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I thought that was a really

462
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: nicely done moment. You're so right between Brenda. I feel

463
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: like we predominantly had male writers, so it is nice

464
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: that Karen wrote that. Aaron Rosen, who is the wife

465
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: of Chuck rosen Our, our executive producer. She was great.

466
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: She went on to write a bunch of episodes, so

467
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: I can't I look forward to rewatching those because I

468
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: liked her writing. I gotta say, even though it was

469
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: like the early nineties, the sex talk stuff and how

470
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: a girl feels and how everyone feels the first time

471
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: or thinking about the first time, it holds up like

472
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: I would show that to my kids and be like,

473
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: brend is a great example. Yeah, I mean, just showing

474
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: this episode that you don't have to have to talk

475
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: with them there you go. No, but it always every

476
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: episode always goes to some heavy topic, you know. I

477
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: feel like every week after week, and so this week

478
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: it just kind of like the whole age they just

479
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, Like it was not expecting her

480
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: to say that. Well, Steve was trying to come on

481
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: to her for so many times, and so it just

482
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: kind of like goes to show that the topics that

483
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: I think your show handled. Yeah, for sure, I mean

484
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: it laid it on. Think we knew that that was

485
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: gonna I don't think we knew that that was going

486
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: to become a thing on the show, None of us.

487
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: We Yeah, but as it started happening. I feel like

488
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: we all took a certain pride in that. Maybe we

489
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: laughed a little bit sometimes that like, oh my god,

490
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: now what's going to happen to me this week? You know,

491
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: important message going to be this week? But the show

492
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: had so much other stuff, so many other layers, and

493
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: like so much fun with the fashion and the characters

494
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: in the all the Beverly Hills of it all. Like

495
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: I feel like it was a good balance. Maybe yeah,

496
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: definitely glamorized teens and where we lived. But at the

497
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: same time, that's the driving thing, is the storylines that

498
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: everyone could really do no matter where you lived. Yeah,

499
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: and again this was it was a cool thing that

500
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: kids started watching this with their parents because then they

501
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: kind of opened that door to talk about, you know,

502
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: um what what they were scared to talk about. So

503
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: I thought that was It's like a good conversation starter

504
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: hopefully for some parents. Totally, yeah, I think so. Plus

505
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: the fact that the speaker was exposed to aid time

506
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: her very first time, and then there's Brenda and the

507
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: audiences thinking that could be me, that could happen to me,

508
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: and good good that she thought that, oh yeah, because

509
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: then she has that conversation with Dylan about getting checked

510
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: at the end of the episode. It's such a great

511
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: message because I feel like girls to to this day

512
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: still think like, oh, what's the worst that could happen,

513
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: you know, they think pregnancy, which is a huge life changer,

514
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: but they don't realize that there's something that could happen

515
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: to you that you can die. So that was so

516
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: like WHOA, Like h yeah, and there's so many diseases

517
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: and things now, like you have to protect yourself. I

518
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: loved it when Kyle Well jumping ahead to the favorite,

519
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: my favorite line of the episode, but when Kelly said,

520
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: um rule number one, never rely on the guy, And

521
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: I think that's that's good, Like girls should take care

522
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: of themselves and no always first ladies, safety first. Girls.

523
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Wrong with boys? I feel like that's I want to

524
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: like teach my boys to always like step up and

525
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: be prepared, like don't be that guy. You know, I

526
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: don't think, Yeah, I mean I think just like girls

527
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: are more you know, aware and educated and more savvy.

528
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: Now of course boys are too, And yeah, I mean

529
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't have boys, but I would have to assume

530
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: that people that are raising young boys out there are

531
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: doing just as much work to protect them and to

532
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: teach them, I mean the responsibilities. Well, which goes to

533
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: one of the big topics in this episode, double standards,

534
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: because sometimes, and it's just part of society, parents treat

535
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: boys and girls a little bit differently when it comes

536
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: to sex. Yes, and that's what Jim did in and

537
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: Brenda called him out on it, which was so cool. Wait,

538
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: yeah and brave, but she it's true he was. He

539
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: was saying it was okay for Brandon and and like,

540
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, you pat your son on the back and

541
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: give him a little wink. But but with your daughter,

542
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: her losing her virginity is a question of her morals.

543
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: Brandon's girlfriend got to sleep in the house, got to

544
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: you know, they knew what was happening, Like Jim to

545
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: do something about your son, and he's like, like it

546
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: was fine, you know with Brenda, like they were just

547
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,239
Speaker 1: like no, well not Cindy, but Jim. Yeah, I mean,

548
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: daddy's an old girl. It's hard, but there is I

549
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: stuck around in high school for that reason. You know,

550
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: you never wanted my dad to really know what I

551
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 1: was up to. Oh break his heart, my little sweet Sistan.

552
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: He would never do that. Important message you guys when

553
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: your teen is of that age and leaving the house,

554
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: slip on mcondom and if you got and if you've

555
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: got some fun, what do you mean? I feel like

556
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: it's better. It's so interesting, Like I would definitely tell

557
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: my husband to do it, like with our sons at

558
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: that age, but like they're going on a date, I

559
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: don't know. Better they have it and are prepared it

560
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: then then it's embarrassing. It's like it's not comfortable for anyone,

561
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: the teen or the parent. But again, you'd rather them

562
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: use it and have it there than being like, oh,

563
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: I didn't get it because I was embarrassed to go

564
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: somewhere and buy it. So now we're in this position

565
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: and it's okay, maybe it'll just be fine. You don't

566
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: want that to happen. I guess well, you guys are

567
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 1: closer there than I am. This podcast just got really deep.

568
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: It's just a lot to think about going on. Deal

569
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: with it now, you know, just like you just do

570
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: your best as a parent. You you do your best.

571
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: You give them all the things that you learned and

572
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: all the things that you wish you had learned, and

573
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 1: you you know, arm them with with all of that

574
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: and say a little prayer. You know, you can only

575
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: do your best, and then you have to just sort

576
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: of let them live their life to a certain extent,

577
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: or you tie them up and lock them in the

578
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: basement either or in a warehouse and band eyes like

579
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: for ten years, right, thank god they locked me up

580
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: in that stage for ten years. Think of the trouble

581
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: I could have gotten. Imagine I you know what I

582
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: do think about that sometimes, Like we were working so

583
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: hard from such a young age, Like what if we

584
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: had just I don't know. I don't think either of

585
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: us are that type of girl, but who knows. You

586
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: don't know the trouble like teens came into You're easily

587
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: persuaded and talked into things at a young age that

588
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: aren't good judgment, Like, thank god we had that structure

589
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: of that show when you guys would film scenes that

590
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: were not there at that place and they were on location.

591
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: Like you're mentioning, um the theater where Brenda's waiting for

592
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: it's unvent terrible. But yeah, then when she goes to

593
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: go supposedly meet up with Dylan for her date, and

594
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: then it's left there for two hours waiting for him,

595
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: and he never shows up. Would you wait for twos?

596
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd wait for two hours, would

597
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: never admit pret Dylan McKay exactly, But she waited that

598
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: that movie theater is. Yeah, it's on venturable of art.

599
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a store building and it's

600
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: still there. But it's not a movie theater anymore. I

601
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: don't think it used to be Barnes and Noble, but

602
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: Barnes and Noble. Oh, it's the Barnes and Noble and

603
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: no one wait, okay, so it's not the one that

604
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: used to be a bookstore. Was a movie theater. Then

605
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: it used to be a bookstore and then it closed

606
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: down and now it's like a med spa. It's not

607
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: that one. No, no, it's not that one. It's the

608
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: one that's still a bookstore over by Laurel Canyon. It's

609
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: still Barnes and Noble, and I know, which looks exactly

610
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: the come on the outside. But when you guys would go,

611
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: so let's say that was where you had to go,

612
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: would you drive yourself to those locations or would you

613
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: like busting or drive? I mean depending. We would sometimes

614
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: drive to set In Park on by the they called

615
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: like the base camp where they have all the trailers,

616
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: the you know, makeup trailer and wardrobe trailer and the

617
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: lightning trailer, all the things. They call that area like

618
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: the base camp, and so you'd park there. But sometimes

619
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: if you if we were like shooting on set, then

620
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: they would just put us sticks in a van and

621
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: drive us to where we had to be. They stuck

622
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: her in a van, tied her up in the warehouse,

623
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: and stuck her in a van. There what a fun

624
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: gig for you guys to be that age, And explained

625
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: a lot like in a fun way, like always going

626
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: to new places. Yeah, yeah, but it was there was

627
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: so much all the time. Do you ever feel like

628
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: to like we were as in this industry? Like you

629
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: go from set to set to movie to show, to

630
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: job to job, joblin and they're always different. It's always

631
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: a different group of people and it's always a different character.

632
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: So I feel like so much of my life has

633
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: been spent on the move or like jumping from thing

634
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: to thing, that it never really settled into anything in particular,

635
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Like there was never a normal like a baseline for

636
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: me after a while, because it was just it just

637
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: becomes this like whirlwind, and you're always on the move

638
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 1: and always making new friends and meeting new friends and

639
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: then leaving those friends and never really seeing those friends

640
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 1: again for the most part. Or you know, it's such

641
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: a weird industry. It's like, yeah, it's like it's like

642
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: being in the military, like always on the move, military family.

643
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean, completely different. And I'm not making fun of that,

644
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: Like I'm just saying just the lifestyle is you never

645
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: completely let your heart settle in because you know that

646
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: you're going to be on But I mean, probably nine

647
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 1: out of all the things you've done, probably natural was

648
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: the most. I mean that was pretty consecutive. And I

649
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: think like during that time when she's referring to is

650
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: like on summer breaks or winter breaks, we would do

651
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: like TV movies or movies and do other things that

652
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, you you dive in fast. You guys, like

653
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: you give your heart and soul and just commit to

654
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: everyone there, and all of a sudden, it's like joining

655
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: a new school. You go to a new school and

656
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: you just like, but everything is really fast, so it

657
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: like speeds it up the process of like settling in

658
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: and getting to know people and getting accepted. But this

659
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: is probably the one, the one that was like the longest,

660
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: so there's no breaks for you. When you took a

661
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: break from around to know, you jumped right into another project.

662
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: We're all busy working every higatus every break. But I

663
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: mean that was a conscious choice and we wouldn't see

664
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: each other that much because we were given these opportunities

665
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: to go do movies of the week and star and

666
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: then produced them, and you know, it was such so

667
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: many amazing opportunities. Did you ever think that period of time,

668
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: like you we were young, did you ever think like, hey,

669
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: it's summer, I want to go take a vacation or

670
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: I want to There's some people that did do that.

671
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: You and I never did that, Like we were just

672
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: like great work, let's go continue work, work work. Yeah.

673
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 1: I would always I mean because I had my first kid,

674
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: like soon into the sh maybe god soon, I don't

675
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: even know how many years it was before I had

676
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: a first baby, but once I had a baby, I

677
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: would always try to plan like a little family time

678
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: and then before you know, before going on to another

679
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: show and then you come back and you're right back

680
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: into night or two. And I kind of like that.

681
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: I like that. I was always busy and me to

682
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: have time to but I never thought twice about it,

683
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: like we should have been. Like you see people now

684
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: on hit shows and when they have breaks, they're taking

685
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: these amazing vacations around the world because they're making great

686
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: money and they're big celebrities, and like looking back and like,

687
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, it wasn't ever our mindset, which is great.

688
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: We're both very driven. We still are. I think that's

689
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: another thing that like binds us to each other. You

690
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: know that we have that work ethic. But it would

691
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: have been nice to be like, hey, I'm just taking

692
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,959
Speaker 1: like going to Europe for twenty days in the middle

693
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: of our summer and just like Emily in Paris live

694
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: a little. I noticed that with you guys because um,

695
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: around the holidays, we didn't really talk about it, but

696
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wonder if we're gonna stop down and

697
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: we're just not going to do any shows. Nope, we're

698
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: all we almost recorded a podcast on Christmas Eve, Like wow,

699
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: we always make time for work somehow, yep. And that's yeah,

700
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: that's interesting to know that from a young age though,

701
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, work ethic. Yeah, the boys took breaks, they

702
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: took vacations. I feel like Shannon took vacations. Like I

703
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: feel like you and I were the two that really

704
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: always did movies of the week. Yeah, because once you

705
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: did one and it was like they wanted you to

706
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: do another one, and you would just get offered things

707
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: and sent scripts and stuff. I think I've seen these

708
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: movies of the week that there was. There was a

709
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: time when movies of the week were like it was

710
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: everybody was doing it, are they Oh yeah, they're on lifetime.

711
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: All of ours are in lifetime. Now lifetimes always playing.

712
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: But like during the nineties and the time time, like

713
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: they would be for like NBC or CBS or ABC

714
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: it was or Fox, you know, it would they would

715
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: go up against like Monday night football. It would be

716
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: like the female alternative, like and we would take viewers

717
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: away from football. Like it was a big deal Movies

718
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: of the week, And that's why they were titled movies

719
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: of the week. Like there would be one night that

720
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: networks would air their movies of the week, like Monday Night. Um,

721
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: now they're just like TV movies. But also there was

722
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: that thing that you know you were going you were

723
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: like you had the power that they always wanted you.

724
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: You would get these straight offers. He didn't want to

725
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: not do it because you didn't want to not be relevant.

726
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: Like what would happen if we like went one summer

727
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: and didn't do a TV movie. Like it was a

728
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: little bit of that, right, We probably felt like that

729
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: would be it. Well, we'll never work again in this

730
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 1: town again. Imagine thinking that at like eighteen, at that age,

731
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 1: mm hmm. Yeah, that was It was a lot, definitely,

732
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: But I I feel like there was so much that

733
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: we learned from doing that too. I mean, we learned

734
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: to beat bosses because we had to. We had to

735
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: learn to suck it up and do what was expected

736
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: of us and you know, call the shots. And I

737
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: think that because we started, I mean I started. I know,

738
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: you probably did two tours started producing the movies that

739
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: I was doing, and uh, you learn what it's like

740
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 1: to have more control over your works. You have a

741
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: voice and people listen to you. It was really nice.

742
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: It was really productive, But gosh, I don't those hours

743
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: that we worked. I mean we worked crazy hours. And

744
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: then to think, like on Christmas break you would film

745
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: like all night and then like fly to Canada the

746
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,879
Speaker 1: next morning and go right into production on a TV movie.

747
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: And then come back and go right back to nine

748
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: or two now after maybe having like a day off

749
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: for Christmas in the day after New Year, like it

750
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: was just what. I don't know, but those are the

751
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: years you should be hustling in any industry, like whatever

752
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: profession you do, whether it's like in your guys case, TV,

753
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: but like for me it was radio. I got in

754
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: at nineteen and I never took any breaks either. I

755
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: didn't go on any vacations. I worked holidays for five years.

756
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, you can't just pay your dues,

757
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: and so it's interesting that you guys still paid your

758
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 1: dues even though you're on this hit show. Yeah, it's weird.

759
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think every everybody has their own experience

760
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, for sure. No matter what it is

761
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: that you're chosen career path, is you gotta work hard

762
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: when you're young, and then you learn to like slow

763
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: down and prioritize, and you get a family and you

764
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: get other responsibilities of other interests, and you you learn

765
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: to like make other things important in your life too,

766
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: which kind of creates a nice balance, because I don't

767
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: really feel like that's a very balanced way to live

768
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: for very long you know it's hard for some Yeah.

769
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean during that time I had other friends that

770
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: weren't in the business, and they were going to college

771
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: and you know, coming home and having like fun and

772
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: going out, and that wasn't our life. You know, we

773
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: had fun, but it was just a very different life

774
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: than other kids our age. Did it feel like you

775
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: went to college though, totally played it on TV? What

776
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: do you mean I graduated from California University. I've told

777
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: you this, it's real to me. I have the diploma.

778
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: I have Donna Martin's diploma. By the way, I've in

779
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: story and it says Donna Martin graduated California University. It's

780
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: had something like a degree in science arts like that

781
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:08,959
Speaker 1: would never be her. I don't know why it says

782
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: that on there, like they were making a show. Props

783
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: was like, we're gonna make it funny Donna Martin, which

784
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: is not that smart, like et real you have that

785
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: that Well, we have to take a break. Um, I

786
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: do want to come back. We have some questions from

787
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: listeners and we haven't touched on fashion or any of

788
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: our favorite lines from the show, and there's a few

789
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: of them. So we'll be our background Okay, so should

790
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: we talk about fashion, guys? We should have fashion? Mm hmm.

791
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: What did you think was like the standout fashion of

792
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 1: this episode? I feel like it was a pretty even

793
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,280
Speaker 1: keeled episode as far as the fashion. There wasn't anything

794
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: to like. Jarring Dylan's jarring. See that was my favorite.

795
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: That was very like say anything John Cusack like from

796
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: the eighties, right, Yeah, I loved it. Looks so great

797
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: and staring out of the room Brenda around her like

798
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: that's like I want boys to bring back trench coats now,

799
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: why not? What was your favorite? Steve was colorful? I

800
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: know your favorite again with the tucked in blouses on

801
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: on Steve sands a little and the little pants that

802
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: were so snug and a little tushy and he didn't

803
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: know where you're going with that. I don't know why

804
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: were you looking at his tushy? Well, because when he okay,

805
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: when he was in the hotel room with the speaker

806
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: friend girl and uh and he just walked turned around

807
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: and walked out so confidently, And I really felpposed to

808
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: look at his The Steve Sanders strut, which is also

809
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: the Irons eerng strut. Yeah, um, the Brenda makeover was

810
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: fun with you guys fashion montage. The way they sped

811
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: it up super cute. That was really cute like that.

812
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 1: We probably had so much fun filming that, right, I'm

813
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: sure like that's that feels like such a YouTube like

814
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: TikTok movement now and we did it then like the

815
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: speed up, like getting the girl dressed. Um, can we

816
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: talk about Brenda's fashion because I feel like you have

817
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: an ode to it today? Oh right, I'm today I'm

818
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: wearing she inspired me on my shirt choice. Uh that

819
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: you guys know what an air tie is, right? Do

820
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: you know that air tight? This is an air tie

821
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: when you but in your shirt all the way up

822
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: to the top and you don't wear a tie. Oh

823
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but it's it's like an I

824
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 1: don't know. They call it an air tie. All the

825
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: hipsters are wearing it these days. But Brenda, Yeah, and

826
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: you got bright red lips onto Inda was rock in

827
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: the air tie back in the nineties. That must be

828
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: where it came from the nineties. Probably everything came from

829
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: the nineties. Um, and her jean shorts like the infamous

830
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: Jane shorts. She looked great like when Dylan eyed her

831
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: up and down those legs, those Jeane shorts, those scrunchy socks.

832
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: Like I feel like the whole episode it was all

833
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: about that she looked great. She was wearing your socks,

834
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: didn't you. Didn't you let her borrow that? You're so mean.

835
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: So we were working last week and I wore scrunchy

836
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: socks because they're back in everything from the nineties. I

837
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: got them with my girls at Journey and I wore

838
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: them last week, and she just like I knew she

839
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: was gonna hate my off. And I just knew it.

840
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: I was like and one, and two and the three,

841
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: and she's like, you wore those scrunchy socks just to

842
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: piss me off. You thought him a journey, Yeah, the

843
00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:00,280
Speaker 1: store journey from still around. Wow, you can go shopping

844
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: right now. I didn't even know that you can, but

845
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: I should get out. You won't like it, but it's

846
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: somewhere deep down. I knew that morning when I got dressed,

847
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: I did, I somewhat put those scrunchy socks on because

848
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: I knew it would send my best friend over the edge.

849
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: And I love that she would notice. And I knew

850
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 1: that she would notice. And that's how tight. We are

851
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: you guys? Any favorite lines already said mine about Kelly

852
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: Kelly saying rule number one, never rely on the guy.

853
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: I like that one. What about you? Um one was

854
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: good that Brenda said to her dad. We kind of

855
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: talked about it, but the actual line was and if

856
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm ready first, then what should I lie and sneak around?

857
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: When he was talking to her about the double standard?

858
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: Really great thing to say. Good job, Karen Rosen. I felt,

859
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to quote this verbatim and I didn't

860
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: write it down. But when she's looking at Dylan and talking,

861
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: Brenda's looking at Dylan from the balcony and talking to

862
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: Kelly and she's like, uh, and Kelly's like you need

863
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: to go, like, go have a bubble bath. She's like

864
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: I need more than that, and you go, oh, did

865
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: I get that right? There was another one in the

866
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: hallway when when uh, Brenda and Kelly were walking down

867
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 1: the hall and something about being pinned. Oh she I said,

868
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: you're dating now and she was like it was just

869
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: one day. I said we're going on another one, so

870
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: you're officially dating. And then she goes, what what am I?

871
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: What is? What's next season gonna pin me and Kelly

872
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: goes hopefully to a mattress. Kelly had some singers. She's so,

873
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: we have some questions, but however, we just have time

874
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: for one. Do you guys see them or do you

875
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: have a one? You have one that you would rather answer.

876
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: I feel like, let's talk about Courtney's questions. What's wrong? Okay? Yeah,

877
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean you know what. I was gonna let you decide.

878
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: So there we go. So Courtney is asking, could you

879
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: talk more about friendships with Shannon? Wasn't Tory friends with

880
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: her in the beginning and then they went out to

881
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 1: clubs together? Where Jenny and Shannon ever friendly or were

882
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: they too different? Did the three of you ever hang out? Yes,

883
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: we totally hung out. We were friends. There were really

884
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: great moments when it was the three of us. I

885
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: have great memories of us all hanging out and laughing

886
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 1: and like doing that scene in this episode. Whenever we

887
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: worked together, we had a great time. But we did.

888
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: There was plenty of times when the three of us

889
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: went out, I like went out to clubs together. Like,

890
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: I definitely had very different friendships with each of them.

891
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: I had kind of my friendship with Shannon and my

892
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: friendship with Jen and then they would merge all of

893
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 1: us because we were together all the time. That's what happens.

894
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: But um, yeah I did. I did go to like

895
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 1: the Roxberry and bar One a lot with Shannon. She

896
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: was like older than me when I stay older, I

897
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: mean only like two years only two years older. But

898
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: she was cool and like she'd be like, oh, my

899
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: friends and I are going to like the Roxbury, And

900
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: I wanted to fit in so bad because I was

901
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: like just a little bit too young to be doing

902
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And I'd be like, oh god, she's

903
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: taking me the Roxberry. You know, it's just like, oh cool.

904
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: But I feel like Jen and I had the relationship.

905
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: We like did things like at the same level. Does

906
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,439
Speaker 1: that make sense, Like bond at the same time about

907
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: things at the same time. Like Shannon was kind of

908
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: like an aspiration to me because I was like she

909
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: was the older cool kid even though she was only

910
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: two years older. Yeah, And Shannon and I we had

911
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: great We had great times together, and we also had

912
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: times that weren't as great because we were just too

913
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: Um we're two aries women, two very I did not

914
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: know that we're both very strong minded, and um, I

915
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: think that that sometimes it would just make us like

916
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: two rams, you know, we would lock horns sometimes and

917
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: um and would that be with like things that were

918
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 1: happening on the show or in your personal lives? Not really.

919
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: I think it was always like show related, whether it

920
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: was on camera, off camera, behind the scenes or whatever

921
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: that became personal. It's never about personal life because we

922
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Shannon and I ever hung out on

923
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: a personal level too often, just the two of us

924
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: that I recall, but um, yeah, we would work it out.

925
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: We would we would somehow work it out, and we

926
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 1: continue that, you know, we're working relationship. I felt like

927
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: it went as good as it could go in with

928
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: those circumstances. And I it's just like high school, you guys,

929
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: this happens, and they're both very strong or like alpha

930
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 1: alpha women, you know, they speak their mind, and I'm

931
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: like the tourists, that's just like everyone get along, and

932
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: so they were all I would just remember. There would

933
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: be times when they would kind of bump heads about things,

934
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: and yeah, it was always Stoll related, but it felt

935
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: personal when it would go beyond that, and I would

936
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: just be in the middle, like, oh my god, it's

937
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: my two best friends, like, just get along. I want

938
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: you to be happy. I want you to be happy.

939
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: I'm stuck in the middle. Would you guys, like um,

940
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: between the four of you girls, even Gabrielle, would you

941
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: guys ever fight about clothes or was it always specific

942
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: like Kelly's alphite or these or Donna's alphite or these,

943
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: or like, would you fightly like I was supposed to

944
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 1: wear that top in the scene or whatever? He of course,

945
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: really there were wardrobe battles, makeup hair battles, why is

946
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: she wearing her hair? Like, Okay, I was gonna wear

947
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: my I mean, I don't remember anything specifically, but I

948
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: love it. We do remember the Red Dress incident? I do,

949
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: but I think I don't really remember acture because everyone

950
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: has their perception of how something happens, and then it's

951
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: heightened once it starts to become a story and you're like, wait,

952
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: how did it actually begin? How did it actually happen?

953
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: And we call it the red dress incident because the

954
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: boys made it bigger like than it was. But pretty

955
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: much it was a photo shoot. It was a photo shoot,

956
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: and we we've discussed this. Those were the days we

957
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: were all on set together, all working hard, the whole

958
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: day and um taking photos, which is a lot of pressure,

959
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: especially for girls, like you want to look good? How

960
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: do I look? Um? And they didn't want everyone in

961
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: the same color, and we don't exactly all see it

962
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: the same way, but it was pretty much, you know,

963
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: it was one of those days when it was like no,

964
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: everyone kind of stood up for themselves and going back

965
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: the wardrobe, people shouldn't have given everyone choices if they

966
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: didn't want to want to wear the same color. We

967
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: each had our section and we each had a red

968
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: dress in it, and we each picked the red dress,

969
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: and then so we all we've all come out with it.

970
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: But it wasn't just you and I are was it

971
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: the three of us? I think originally it was Shannon,

972
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: wasn't It was involved somehow, and then she chose the

973
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 1: black dress, and then you and I were both you

974
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: you were riled up because you were like, I thought

975
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,959
Speaker 1: they had asked you to change because she had wanted

976
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: to wear a red dress, and you were like, no,

977
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,439
Speaker 1: that's not fair, Like I feel good in this dress,

978
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: I have it on, it was in my section, I'm

979
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: going to wear it. And then she changed, but simultaneously,

980
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: because you had it on. They had asked me to

981
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: not wear the red dress, and I was like, I

982
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: always get along with everyone. I always say yes to everything.

983
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: Today I'm wearing the red dress. And it ended up

984
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: being a battle between Jen and I which we never fought,

985
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: which was so strange. So if you look at that

986
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: picture of that photo shoot, which was like our you know,

987
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: cast photo for the year, it's her, Tory and I

988
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: both in red dresses, and Shannon and the black dress,

989
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: and Tory and I are like, like, we're peeved at

990
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: each other. You can just tell there's tension. Oh my god,

991
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: I can see it right you literally google. And they

992
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: separated us in the photo on other ends because they

993
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, let's make this work. They're both in

994
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: red dresses and they're upset. But the boys, by the

995
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: time we came to set, we were both already fired up.

996
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: And it kind of didn't even start with us but

997
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: ended with us. Um by the time we got to set,

998
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: we were like upset, and then the boys were like,

999
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: that's it. And the boys are like, I want to

1000
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: wear the red dress. No, I'm wearing the red dress.

1001
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: And they were saying that in this photo while we're

1002
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: taking photos, they'd be like and cheese photo and they'd

1003
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 1: be like, I want to wear the red dress, and

1004
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: we were both just like, oh, by the way. For

1005
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, that was season's until the

1006
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: end of the show, that was the fight, like the

1007
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: boys always so much that we brought it back for

1008
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: the friviation kind of use that as for for a

1009
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: scene where we are um but that wasn't in the show.

1010
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: Behind the shot, yeah, but we brought it into b

1011
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: HN tourno that we all three show up in a

1012
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: red dress. Because to this day, even when we were

1013
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: starting bhnot Tourno, as soon as we'd get in like

1014
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: rooms and like all having dinner or like drinks, the

1015
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: boys would still be like, I'm wearing the red dress.

1016
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: And it's like WHOA thirty years later, you guys are

1017
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: still saying that, and it's still got us piste off.

1018
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 1: It's riling me up right now, offlustered right now us.

1019
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: I think because of that, I couldn't wear a red

1020
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: dress out publicly anymore, Like I was just so scarred.

1021
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: Red dress. Well, you look really beautiful in red, so

1022
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: you should you should wear red d two and and

1023
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: we just don't wear it when what do you mean

1024
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: just stand on the other side of me, like somewhere

1025
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: else in the picture. I feel like for our I

1026
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: feel like for a Galantine's Day, we should both wear

1027
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: red and then talking. Oh my god, us, I think

1028
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: we should end with that. Ladies, there's no question. You

1029
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: can't ask us. You guys, we will. We will talk

1030
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: about all your questions. Like I picked that question because

1031
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: I felt like people wanted to know that, and like

1032
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: maybe we don't want to talk about it, or like,

1033
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, but let's talk about it. Why not? So

1034
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: send us questions. I think as a fan, you heard

1035
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: all these rumors and you just just didn't know what

1036
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: was true, especially because there was no love that you

1037
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: can google on the red dress fight and it comes up.

1038
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: That's crazy. I literally nine O two and oh read

1039
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: and address, and then as I was writing dress, it

1040
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 1: suggested fight historical wardrobe malfunction. Okay, Episode eleven is the

1041
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: homework assignment. Yep, you have a whole week to watch

1042
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: episode eleven and then we will convene and we will

1043
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: talk about it. Break it down, break it down, and

1044
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: don't forget about the new merch and the virtual of

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Speaker 1: Instagram account which is Nino to a hum and is

1047
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Speaker 1: there a place they can let's just send pictures of

1048
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: themselves in our merch. Maybe we can posture or just

1049
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: tag us, like put it on your Instagram and then

1050
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: tag nine O two and OMG podcast on there, and

1051
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: then that we can repost. Oh my god, we want

1052
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: to see all of you in our maybe at our

1053
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 1: virtual thing, we could like flash pictures of people in it.

1054
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,560
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