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Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome to Lake is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, March third, The of Our Lord

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Jam pack tonight. We are overflowing with content,

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Speaker 2: even in the middle of the dreaded X season. High

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Speaker 2: Top Downtown Nashville, Tennessee, a bustling seventy three degrees and

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Speaker 2: Sunday that after New Downtown Nashville, Tennessee. They're watching us tonight,

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Speaker 2: Jessein and Colin. They're watching us in La j Georgia.

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Speaker 2: They're watching us in Hagerstown, Indiana. Williamson, West Virginia is

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Speaker 2: tuned in. Thank you one and all across the country

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Speaker 2: and beyond. Got a fairly sizable international audience. By the way,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much. Spring is upon us, at least

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Speaker 2: when it comes to college football, and I want to

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Speaker 2: talk to you tonight about mister intrigue, suspense, Spring and

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Speaker 2: suspense they go together, and alliteration aside. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of it right now. So we're going to talk about

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Speaker 2: the big mystery teams in college football this year. This

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Speaker 2: is not going to change, you know, We're gonn to

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Speaker 2: toss it out there in spring. It's not really going

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Speaker 2: to change. I don't know that we'll learn all that

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Speaker 2: much about these teams in spring, but we're going to

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Speaker 2: do that. I got five of them that I want

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Speaker 2: to dish out to you tonight. Oklahoma Mood Tracker. We're

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Speaker 2: doing the Sooner Mood Tracker tonight. You've been asking for it.

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Speaker 2: I think Oklahoma fans have been some of the most

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Speaker 2: persistently vocal about getting the mood Tracker on the show.

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Speaker 2: So we're there for you tonight. The most underrated rivalry

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Speaker 2: in college football, right, not the ones everyone talks about.

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Speaker 2: So we're not talking Iron Bowl or Ohio State Michigan tonight.

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Speaker 1: But what's the one that really pops but no one

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Speaker 1: talks about it? Right? I will talk about my selection.

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Speaker 2: You can come up with yours a little bit later

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Speaker 2: in the show, about twenty or so minutes from now.

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Speaker 2: Also on the Late Kick Extra podcast yesterday, which we

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Speaker 2: got great reviews on. I think it's one of the

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Speaker 2: best ones we've ever done. Several of the videos are

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Speaker 2: on the YouTube channel right now. We did a question

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Speaker 2: and answer it's all question and answer, and one of

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Speaker 2: you asked about the Mount rushmore of that guy that

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Speaker 2: college football fan. Now, this is not some revolutionary concept.

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Speaker 2: A lot of shows have done that before. We're just

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Speaker 2: doing the college football version of it. But man, I

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Speaker 2: put three or four of them out there. Then I

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Speaker 2: put the clip out on Twitter and I asked, Hey,

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Speaker 2: do you have any submissions? Do you have a specific

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Speaker 2: stereotypical fan that you have encountered? And I didn't include it,

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Speaker 2: And we have like twenty of them. I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to include all of them tonight because we don't have time.

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Speaker 2: But I have several quality additions, restaurant quality editions, as

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Speaker 2: Jim Ross would have once said, to the Mount Rushmore,

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Speaker 2: which is going to have more than four or five

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Speaker 2: faces on it. Sorry to say all that, and I

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Speaker 2: will indeed respond to Brandon Walker's ratchetness from yesterday at

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Speaker 2: the end of the show. You know, he's got a

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Speaker 2: caboose vibe to him, so we'll put him at the

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Speaker 2: end of the show. At Late Kick, Josh, Twitter and Instagram,

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Speaker 2: make sure you're following there.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't noticed.

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Speaker 2: Over the past couple of days, a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: happens as it relates to the show that doesn't always

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Speaker 2: make it on the show. So there's a lot going

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Speaker 2: on during the week, as you well know. At Late

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Speaker 2: Kick Josh Twitter, Instagram, best way to keep up with it.

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Speaker 2: So let's dive into the show tonight. You got a

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Speaker 2: whole lot to get to Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: being tuned in. Subscribe to the YouTube channel five star

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Speaker 2: reviews on the pot if you haven't already Mystery, intrigue, suspense.

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Speaker 2: They are very, very quality buzzwords in our industry. It

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Speaker 2: makes you lean in. But all I got to do

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Speaker 2: is tell you right now, I got five teams. I

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Speaker 2: have no clue what to expect from this fall. And

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Speaker 2: it's March in college football, that means spring practice. But

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Speaker 2: we all already are circling some mystery teams for twenty

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Speaker 2: and I want to hit five of them right quick.

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Speaker 1: And I want to ask.

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Speaker 2: You if you have any answers, if you think you've

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Speaker 2: got these teams figured out to be my guest, let

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Michigan obviously has been in the news a lot because

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh wanted the Minnesota job, didn't get the Minnesota job.

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Speaker 1: He's back, you know all that.

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Speaker 2: What we don't know is how's that going to impact

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is an alien, you know, because if he's

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Speaker 2: human beings. I'm certainly not saying that they're in a

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Speaker 2: having a head coach jumping back in after sitting on

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Speaker 1: Look, you've got to restretch, go work out.

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Speaker 2: At the gym, You go sit down, start talking to

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Speaker 1: You got to eat.

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Speaker 2: You don't just ease back into it. You got to

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Speaker 2: stretch yourself out a little bit. Well, here was what

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Speaker 2: I was talking about. When Harbaugh did not get the

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Speaker 2: but we can never rule it out. Is the Dan

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Speaker 2: Mullen effect. Dan Mullen a year before at the Florida

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Speaker 1: Now I think there is.

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Speaker 2: I think we can all understand there's a whole lot

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Speaker 2: different attachment between Harbaugh and Michigan then the was with

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Speaker 2: it out. You just never know how this stuff's going

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Speaker 2: do you want to call it that? Let's go to Auburn.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what to expect? I'm talking to you

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Speaker 2: How's this supposed to play out? And for me just

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Speaker 1: How am I supposed to judge him?

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Speaker 2: How am I supposed to have an unobstructed view of

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Speaker 1: On that horse, young man, and ride into the fall.

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Speaker 2: And you got Pama, Georgia, lsu A, and M to

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Speaker 2: for the time BM, don't get too attached. But for

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Speaker 2: the time being, you're still the head coach. Here, point being,

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Speaker 2: even if everything's on the up and up, it's hard

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Speaker 1: How am I supposed to know?

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Speaker 2: Whether Brian Harson is faltering or whether he was given

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Speaker 2: no idea. But then I look at their schedule and

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Speaker 2: there is a that guy out there in college football

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Speaker 2: that would look at the schedule, Auburn schedule and they

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Speaker 2: would criticize it because they're gonna play Mercer.

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Speaker 1: You know. They would ignore that, got.

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Speaker 2: the end of the year. Forget about all that. This

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Speaker 2: schedule is soft because you play Mercer. Anyway, He's got

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Speaker 2: Zach Calzada transferred in from Texas A and m Robbie Ashford.

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Speaker 2: Finley is still there, he was there last year, and

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Speaker 2: I don't know necessarily how well they think he fits

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Speaker 1: Figure it out.

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Speaker 1: What about Texas? Bo Davis told you, Steve Sarkisian told you.

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Speaker 2: If you watched Texas football last year at all, your

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Speaker 2: Sarkisian didn't do it, nor did any rational person expect

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Speaker 2: I'm referenced to Bo Davis, you remember that epic team

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Speaker 2: transfer portal window. Who knows what they do there. But Texas,

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Speaker 2: not only in the Big twelve and in their own backyard,

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Speaker 2: good talent roster, much improved from this time last year.

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Speaker 2: You also have the net positive of the program representing

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Speaker 2: more of your thumb print. If you're this coaching staff

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Speaker 2: in year two and you casually went and got quinn Ewers,

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Speaker 2: who I know is only one person. Therefore, when you

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Speaker 2: If you add a transcendently good talent at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: That's all he is right now. We have not seen

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Speaker 2: But if you add that talent, that potential and it

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Speaker 1: But here's how you would make that sound. I'm not

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Speaker 2: Named socks one time. That's why I'm not a cat

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Speaker 2: we couldn't do it immediately. A lot of our own

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Speaker 2: Oklahoma fans, they wanted us to immediately do a Sooner

437
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Speaker 2: mood tracker. And the mood tracker, for those unfamiliar, is

438
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Speaker 2: just when we take the temperature of the fan base.

439
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Speaker 2: Instead of you know, being in preview magazine season or

440
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Speaker 2: instead of just kind of looking down flyover style, we

441
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Speaker 2: get right down there in the weeds, granularly with the

442
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Speaker 2: fan base. What do you think, Well, we couldn't do

443
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Speaker 2: it because there was coaching turnover, and you know the

444
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Speaker 2: rule around here, anytime you got coaching turnover.

445
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Speaker 1: We just back up, beep beep peep. We'd give it

446
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Speaker 1: a little.

447
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Speaker 2: While, we let the dust settle, because dust is synonymous

448
00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 2: with emotions in college football, so we need the emotion

449
00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,680
Speaker 2: to be pushed out of the room and we need

450
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Speaker 2: a little bit.

451
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Speaker 1: Of logic to take its place.

452
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Speaker 2: I feel like we've entered that period now in Norman,

453
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Speaker 2: around Oklahoma. Brent Venables is the head coach of the

454
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma Sooner. Can't say that enough.

455
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Speaker 1: You've got to get used to these sorts of things.

456
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Speaker 2: So I go over to Ouinsider dot com Tokay, which

457
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Speaker 2: is our Oklahoma site, and I said, we're doing the

458
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Speaker 2: mood Tracker tonight for Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: I need you to fill in the blank. My current mood.

460
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Speaker 2: Towards OU football is what And boy, this is only

461
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Speaker 2: like a couple hours ago. I think we're three pages

462
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Speaker 2: deep in counting on the board over there, So thank

463
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Speaker 2: you too, Owe Youuinsider dot com. I think they pin

464
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Speaker 2: the thread. That's not something every one of our sites

465
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Speaker 2: does for me. They pin the thread for me immediately

466
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Speaker 2: over there. So I think Brandon Dron, Parker Thune and

467
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Speaker 2: those guys I appreciate that they were very active here

468
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Speaker 2: essentially was the mood amongst the Oklahoma faithful over there.

469
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Speaker 2: I think they are ready to let the chips fall

470
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Speaker 2: wherever they may. Now, this is obviously a period of

471
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Speaker 2: time where I don't think Oklahoma fans feel like they've

472
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Speaker 2: got it all figured out. I don't think they know

473
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Speaker 2: definitively in their minds that Brenton Vinables he's the guy,

474
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Speaker 2: he's about to take us right back to the mountaintop.

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Speaker 1: It's not that they have that. They don't have a

476
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Speaker 1: lot of arrogance about their approach right now.

477
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Speaker 2: But the reason the mood around Oklahoma football is we're

478
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Speaker 2: ready to let the chips fall where they may is

479
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Speaker 2: because you cannot overstate how bad a taste Lincoln Riley's

480
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 2: exit left in their mouths. And then you start hearing things,

481
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Speaker 2: and you start getting feedback from this angle and that angle,

482
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Speaker 2: and it turns out you had a lot of people

483
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Speaker 2: in Norman, Oklahoma and around the program that may not

484
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Speaker 2: have thought as highly of Lincoln Riley as all of

485
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Speaker 2: us outsiders would have been led to believe, but you

486
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Speaker 2: couldn't say anything while he was there. And really, here's

487
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,239
Speaker 2: what it amounts to. What it amounts to is that

488
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Speaker 2: whole dynamic they've had at Arkansas for a while where

489
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Speaker 2: they feel like they've got one of their own and

490
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Speaker 2: Sam Pittman, maybe they didn't feel like that. They felt

491
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Speaker 2: like they had a really good coach, they had a

492
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Speaker 2: good offensive mind, but maybe they never felt like Lincoln

493
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Speaker 2: Riley was one of theirs. Well, the reason why they're

494
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Speaker 2: ready to let the tips fall where they may with

495
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Speaker 2: Briton Venables is cause the moment he landed in Norman,

496
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Speaker 2: he has felt every bit to Norman, Oklahoma what Sam

497
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Speaker 2: Pittman has felt like to Fayetteville, Arkansas. They've got one

498
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Speaker 2: of theirs. And so when you have that kind of

499
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Speaker 2: confidence and you claim to not have had it, I'm

500
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Speaker 2: not there, I'm not on the ground. I'm telling you

501
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Speaker 2: what Oklahoma fans say when they haven't had it and

502
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Speaker 2: they do have it.

503
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Speaker 1: Now, there's this comfort factor.

504
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Speaker 2: There's this weird comfort factor, even though the guy has

505
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Speaker 2: not been a head coach of Dan's life. There's this

506
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Speaker 2: comfort factor of we'll let the tips fall where they

507
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Speaker 2: may knowing that we're going to do it the way

508
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Speaker 2: we want it done. Now here's where you also draw

509
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Speaker 2: a little.

510
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Speaker 1: Bit of confidence.

511
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Speaker 2: I'd say a lot of confidence if I were an

512
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma fan. There was not this long drawn out, dramatic,

513
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Speaker 2: chaotic coaching search. Even though Lincoln Riley's departure was kind

514
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Speaker 2: of sprung on them, not literally overnight, but kind of overnight.

515
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Speaker 2: History would tell you they would have been caught with

516
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Speaker 2: their pants down figuratively of course, and they, you know,

517
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: kind of fumble their way through a coaching search, and

518
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: they don't really do their due diligence and they end

519
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Speaker 2: up with whoever they end up with.

520
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Speaker 1: Rints repeat a few years later, and.

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Speaker 2: That's not what happened. They had the ducks in a row.

522
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Speaker 2: They knew exactly what they wanted, they knew who embodied that.

523
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Speaker 2: They waited as long as they needed to wait, and

524
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Speaker 2: then they went and they got Brent Vinables, and Brent

525
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Speaker 2: Vinables came there, and you had a lot of varying

526
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Speaker 2: degrees of doubt nationally. I haven't really sensed any doubt

527
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Speaker 2: whatsoever inside there. And that's kind of the same vibe

528
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Speaker 2: that you got when Ryan Day took over at Ohio State.

529
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Speaker 2: Kind of, you know, the same vibe that you got

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Speaker 2: somewhat even when Kirby got the job at Georgia, people

531
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Speaker 2: looked around and said, but you could have had him,

532
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Speaker 2: and him, for that matter, Napier down at Florida feels

533
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: the same way. Florida's the same way Oklahoma is. They're saying,

534
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Speaker 2: don't worry about it, we got our guy. Ohio State said,

535
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Speaker 2: we got our guy. Georgia said, we got our guy.

536
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Speaker 2: Well here we go, Oklahoma, you got your guy. And

537
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Speaker 2: they're willing to let the chips fall where they may. Now,

538
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what fascinates me personally about Brent Vinibles

539
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Speaker 2: at Oklahoma is the whole recruiting dynamic. You know, they

540
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Speaker 2: I think pulled off a minor miracle in holding the

541
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Speaker 2: class together as well and as highly rated as.

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Speaker 1: They did this last cycle.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the takeaway for me hosting the signing Day

544
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Speaker 2: show was when we looked over at the screen and

545
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Speaker 2: we saw where oh you was going to end up.

546
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Speaker 2: They over the last several years, there was only one

547
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Speaker 2: class Lincoln Riley had landed that was ranked higher than

548
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Speaker 2: the one that Brent Venables and Oklahoma staff new staff

549
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 2: was able to hold together this last cycle. Now, that's

550
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Speaker 2: not totally indicative of what we can expect down the road.

551
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Speaker 2: This is where I'm fascinated because you know, we did

552
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Speaker 2: a show last week where we talked about the changing

553
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Speaker 2: recruiting dynamics in California, Florida and in Texas. Lincoln Riley's

554
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Speaker 2: now in southern California, Mario Cristballs now in southern Florida,

555
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Speaker 2: Sark and Jimbo really lighting it up on the recruiting

556
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Speaker 2: trail in Texas. Where's why I mentioned that when you

557
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Speaker 2: go through any of these Oklahoma classes, just like I

558
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 2: did earlier, I was reading the states off to Jesse,

559
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Speaker 2: and I was reading the hometowns of all the recruits.

560
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of Florida, there's a lot of California,

561
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Speaker 2: and of course there's always going to be a lot

562
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Speaker 2: of Texas. And this is where the rubber is really

563
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: going to meet the road. I don't really care quite frankly,

564
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Speaker 2: what Brenton Venables shows you on a grease board. I

565
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: have no doubt in my mind that guy knows football

566
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Speaker 2: inside and out.

567
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Speaker 1: Don't doubt it whatsoever.

568
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Speaker 2: I don't doubt they'll always be able to attract a

569
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Speaker 2: very quality coaching staff there because it's a rock solid culture.

570
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma football has long been viewed even by outsiders as

571
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Speaker 2: one of the most rock solid cultures in the sport.

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Speaker 2: I don't doubt any and I'm not saying necessarily I

573
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Speaker 2: doubt what I'm about to say. But this is the

574
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Speaker 2: biggest mystery about this new staff to me. Are they

575
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Speaker 2: going to be able to attack those three regions as

576
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Speaker 2: effectively as they need to to recruit at the level they.

577
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Speaker 1: Need to.

578
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Speaker 2: Match player for player in conference championship scenarios and maybe

579
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Speaker 2: even college football playoff scenario because it's not getting easier

580
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Speaker 2: to recruit in either Florida, well, I guess there's three

581
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: of them, Florida, Texas, especially South Florida, Texas, and California.

582
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: The chore is only getting harder, and now you're throwing

583
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Speaker 2: a new coaching staff into that mix.

584
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Speaker 1: That is the great unknown for me.

585
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Speaker 2: And I don't think that Oklahoma fans necessarily disagree with that.

586
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Speaker 2: They would admit to you they were doing it in

587
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Speaker 2: the thread over on ou Insider. I've got two Oklahoma

588
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: buddies I talk with all the time, and they say,

589
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Speaker 2: I'm not ready to make predictions, but I can't tell

590
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Speaker 2: you one thing for sure. I love the dude we hired.

591
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: I love Brint Venables. I mean, it's not even spring

592
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Speaker 2: of his first year. What more can you ask for?

593
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Speaker 1: Let's roll on.

594
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Speaker 2: Hey, they're watching us tonight. Told you they're watching us tonight.

595
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 2: They're watching us in Palmetto, Florida, and they're watching us

596
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Speaker 2: in Tallase, Alabama. Absolutely not to be confused with Tallahassee.

597
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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Uh, don't let me skip over the segment though. That's

599
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Speaker 2: how you confuse yourself. I asked someone the other day,

600
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Speaker 2: and I was eating lunch with kind of we would

601
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Speaker 2: call them in the college football administrative business, Colin. That's

602
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Speaker 2: not a good endpoint for you. Here's a good endpoint.

603
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Speaker 2: What's the most underrated.

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Speaker 1: Rivalry in college football? Do you right now?

605
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: Not the ones that grab all the marquee headlines and

606
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 2: attention to whatnot. So no Ohio State, Michigan, no Auburn,

607
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: Alabama or anything like that, but the ones that are underrated,

608
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Speaker 2: the ones when you watch you say WHOA, but you

609
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: really never see him on the top ten lists. What

610
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: if I told you I got a rivalry? The schools

611
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 2: are separated by three hundred and sixty miles. One is

612
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: nine and two versus the other in conference play over

613
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,440
Speaker 2: the last eleven years, and both will perennially have national

614
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: championship aspiration. That rivalry is Texas A and M versus LSU.

615
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Speaker 2: And there's some real genuine hatred here. I don't think

616
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Speaker 2: the country was about it. I don't think in Spokane, Washington,

617
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: or Modesto, California. When you guys are watching SEC football

618
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: from a distance, you realize the fundamental hatred and disdain

619
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Speaker 2: that exists between Baton Rouge Louisiana and College Station in Texas.

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Speaker 2: There are many reasons for it, but I just want

621
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: to detail a few and why this is so important

622
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Speaker 2: on the national landscape.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the fundamental issue.

624
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Speaker 2: In the SEC West, it's the only division in college

625
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: football where there are three programs with genuine Tier one expectation.

626
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: To be clear, Tier one expectations are not only where

627
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 2: your fan base expects you to contend for the playoff

628
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: every year, also the rest of the country expects it.

629
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Speaker 2: So not maybe this year, but moving forward twenty twenty

630
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: three or four and beyond Texas A and M. With Jimbo,

631
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: it'll be expected of him every year. It's always expected

632
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: of Alabama, and it will be expected of.

633
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: Brian Kelly at LSU.

634
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: Maybe not this year, but years moving forward After this year,

635
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: there aren't enough wins to go round. It's always going

636
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: to be a problem as long as you were hiring

637
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: and spending the way they do in the SEC West,

638
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 2: Bama is a safe bet when we're talking about playoff expectations,

639
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: Bama's going.

640
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: To be there. So then we follow up with this question,

641
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: who's the other one?

642
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: There's really only room for one other main stay unless

643
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: they just play Hopscotch every other year. Is it Texas

644
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: A and M Or is it LSU, Is it Jimbo

645
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: Fisher or is it Brian Kelly. Now this thing got

646
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: red hot for a little while when it was Jimbo

647
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: versus ed ors Ron. Remember there was this whole deal

648
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: where LSU. From the outside, it looked like they were

649
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 2: flirting with Jimbo Fisher and some people would tell you

650
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: it was never going to happen, and some people will

651
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: tell you Jimbo's representation used LSU to get the deal

652
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: he really wanted at Texas A and M. Well, anyway,

653
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: however it played out, they never forgot it, and so

654
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: Jimbo's at LSU. And you just add in the fact

655
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: that there were rumors this past December January.

656
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: It was drawn out a little bit. You add that in.

657
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: That's part one of the special sauce there.

658
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 2: But then when you got ed Orzron in there, and

659
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 2: you had them win a national championship in twenty nineteen,

660
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: and he was the guy that was the afterthought. He

661
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: was kind of the backup option for LSU that made

662
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: it really spicy. That was great, and it was also

663
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: this thing with LSU and Texas too. But I don't

664
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: think that the intensity of this rivalry has reached its

665
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: potential apex yet because I think what Brian Kelly versus

666
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 2: Jimbo Fisher could be carries way more volume with it

667
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: over the long term than anything at Oorgeron was ever

668
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: going to do there against Jimbo Fisher in Texas.

669
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: A and M.

670
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: LSU needs a presence in Houston, they need a presence

671
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: in East Texas on the recruiting trail. And there's a

672
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: stat that's floating around that stills kind of mind blowing.

673
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: There was a point late in the signing day cycle,

674
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: towards the second signing day that I think is still true.

675
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: I think, and it was if you take just the

676
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: kid's A and M signed from the greater Houston area

677
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: in the last recruiting cycle, that alone would have constituted

678
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: safely a top fifteen class.

679
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: I think at one point it was a top ten class.

680
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: It may still be there.

681
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: Billy luci Over on tech SAgs had that stat and

682
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: I looked at it.

683
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: Like three times and I said, is that true, Harry, Yep,

684
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: He's right.

685
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: So something's got to give there because Brian Kelly is

686
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 2: looking around, and sure you bring him in and he

687
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: wants to try and lock down the state of Louisiana.

688
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: But LSU has always been at their best when they

689
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: can recruit the greater Houston area as well. You see,

690
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: we were talking about Oklahoma, how well are they going

691
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: to recruit Texas? A little while ago? LSU same deal,

692
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: how are they going to recruit Texas? Then again, we're

693
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 2: talking about the most fierce rivalry. Do I need to

694
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 2: remind anyone where.

695
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: This falls on the schedule.

696
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: This is what's really juicy and really interesting about this

697
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: When you talk about rivalry college football. Most of the

698
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: rivalry games are reserved for rivalry week, which is the

699
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: last week of the regular season. That's where they play

700
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: A and M and LSU they already played last week

701
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: of the regular season. Now, the ramifications on this game

702
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: itself now and moving forward are already going to be

703
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: significant just because of what the game itself means for

704
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 2: the two teams.

705
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: You could also have SEC Western.

706
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: Division implications, you could have New Year six implications. But

707
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 2: if we're talking about these teams truly ascending to SEC

708
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: Championship Game contention, SEC West contention, then think about what

709
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: we're saying, because if you're in that category, your goal

710
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: is to win a national championship. Think about the road

711
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: and think about for either one of these teams. If

712
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: you're Texas AMM, let's say you are A and M,

713
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: and your goals to win a national championship for the

714
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: foreseeable future.

715
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: Here's what that means.

716
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: That means the last four games you play are going

717
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: to consist of a top ten caliber.

718
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: LSU easily if.

719
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 2: You go to Atlanta, a top five caliber SEC Eastern

720
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: Division opponent, then you got the semi final game against

721
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: the top four team, and then you got the national

722
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: championship game against the top four team. So that means

723
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: either one of these programs to fulfill their ultimate goal

724
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: of winning a national championship, they got to run through

725
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: four top ten caliber teams in a row to get

726
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: it done. Doesn't sound that easy to me. You know,

727
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: in this whole win is a win. What your record says,

728
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: you're our world we apparently live in.

729
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: That's tough.

730
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: It forces you to go four for four and there

731
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 2: aren't many other programs who face that kind of task.

732
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: And that's before they expand this precious playoff and once

733
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: they expand it.

734
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: I have no clue how many you're gonna have to

735
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: run through. Maybe a hundred, you know, maybe two hundred.

736
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: Is there really any limit to how many playoff games

737
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: are good for the sport?

738
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: I hear, by the way, they're.

739
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: Going to start playing college basketball in a couple of weeks.

740
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: I can't wait to tune into that. Jesse, he's telling

741
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 2: me something. Oh, they've been playing for a few months.

742
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I was unaware Bethel Park, Pennsylvania, though I

743
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: can tell you they're tuned in watching us in Bethel Park,

744
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: PA tonight and when NATCHI Washington apparently a nice contingent

745
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: of viewers in win NATCHI Washington, happy to have you all.

746
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: We did a segment on the College Football Extra podcast

747
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: yesterday that got probably the most rave reviews of any

748
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: single segment that we've done, so much so that I

749
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: clipped some of it and I put it on Twitter,

750
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: and it was a question from viewer.

751
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: In fact, Colin, I think we have the question here.

752
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: It is Caleb asked us, what is your Mount Rushmore

753
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: of type of college football fan?

754
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: It could be any type of fan, the funnier the better.

755
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna about to show you an example of

756
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: some that we came up with. I came up with

757
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Speaker 2: blank and it's not close.

758
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: Guy. And this is a guy who would say, well,

759
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: Colin's got the clip, we'll roll it. He would say

760
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: something like this to you.

761
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: From Hamilton, Georgia, to Auburn, Alabama, to Noonan to Carrollton

762
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: up to Atlanta. You walk into any establishment, any diner,

763
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: any gas station, and you.

764
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: Start a bow versus Herschel debate.

765
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: You are going to have twenty folks on both sides

766
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: of the fence say, oh, Herschel, it's not close. Oh bo,

767
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: it's not even close. Uh, newsflash, it's close. Those are

768
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: two of the most incredible athletes God ever put on

769
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: the planet. I can assure you it's close. These kinds

770
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: of folks would watch the Super Bowl coin flip and

771
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: that'd say, oh, tails, it's not close.

772
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: Literal fifty to fifty. The calculator can tell you that.

773
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 2: The calculator could slow you in the face and say,

774
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: we ran the numbers on this inside the calculator, it's

775
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty shot here. It's literally as close

776
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: as anything on Earth could get.

777
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: Nah, not heads, it's not even close heads.

778
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: Then a lot of you chose to listen to the

779
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: frustration and the voice there.

780
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, Josh.

781
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: So a lot of you chose to have fun with that. Well,

782
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: then I went down a list. I gave you like

783
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: two or three more. The stars don't matter, guys, stars

784
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: don't matter, guys. Always around every corner, he just lurks.

785
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: He's waiting for you.

786
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 2: Also, the media hates us, guy, anytime that something negative

787
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: is said about your program, you know, you get four

788
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: guys arrested tomorrow and at the mere mention of the story.

789
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: ESPN hates us, CBS hates us. Actually, buddy, it's the

790
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: police blotger.

791
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: That hates you. We're just reporting the truth.

792
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 2: But I said, you know what, there's no way I

793
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: came up with all the good bat guys, no way

794
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: for college football. So I put it to you, and

795
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: boy did you respond mountains and mountains of responses. So

796
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: I have several more of that guys for college football

797
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: that we just have to add.

798
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: Ralph Russo of the AP.

799
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 2: Submitted one that I am so angry with myself that

800
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: I didn't remember and it is posting screenshots of missed

801
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: holding calls. Guy, you know, him, I know him. You

802
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: may even be related to one or two of them.

803
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: You watch a football game and you go on Twitter

804
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: twenty minutes later, don't care who lost. You take that

805
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: losing team's fan base and there's going to be a

806
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 2: small sliver of them that have gone back on the

807
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 2: DVR and they've hit pause and they've found a still shot.

808
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: It's always a still screenshot of a jersey.

809
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 2: Being pulled or the bottom of a shirt being pulled there,

810
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: and they've put it on Twitter, and it is essentially

811
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: proof that they got screwed that one missing holding call.

812
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: Never Mind, they were minus three turnovers and they probably

813
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: got ten points worth of missed calls on their end

814
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 2: that benefited them, and they lost thirty one to thirteen.

815
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: None of that matters. They missed a holding call. Not

816
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: only did this screw us, but this person is also

817
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: a close cousin to just refs screwed us guy. In general,

818
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: the officiating crew is out to get us.

819
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Listen.

820
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 2: The only fan base out there that can legitimately say

821
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: there is evidence out there, more than just circumstantial evidence,

822
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: that the league office is out to get them, is

823
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 2: Arkansas razorback fans.

824
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: Otherwise don't really want to hear it. What about bashing

825
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: quality of life? Guy?

826
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: This is a very peculiar phenomenon that exists. I've experienced

827
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 2: it very up close and personal in the Auburn versus

828
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: Alabama rivalry.

829
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: And here's what this guy does.

830
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: This guy, when he's hating on you, he doesn't just

831
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: hate on your fandom, and he doesn't just hate on

832
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: your program. He also bashes you probably cause you anything

833
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: from trailer trash to well, you've fill in the blank,

834
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: you know, good and well roads now which they'll go.

835
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: Here's what's interesting about the Iron Bowl rivalry.

836
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: These people live across the street from each other, and

837
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 2: they're shouting across the street insults about the neighbor's quality

838
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: of life, not realizing socioeconomically, you.

839
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: Guys are linked arm in arm.

840
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: What are you talking about right now? It's one thing,

841
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: and they're known to do this as a time or two.

842
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: My friends in Mountain Brook, you know that you've turned

843
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: that nose up at the fine folks down in Clio,

844
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: Alabama time or two. That's one thing. But when I'm

845
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: listening to someone literally trashed the socioeconomic status of folks

846
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: who live in their own neighborhood never made sense to me.

847
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: What about we weren't healthy? Guy.

848
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: This is a guy that gets in week ten of

849
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: the college football season, and unless his roster is still

850
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 2: in pristine condition and there's not a single red sharpie

851
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: line drawn through any projected starter from his Phil Steel

852
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 2: Preview magazine in August, he's going to tell you if

853
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: they lose a game.

854
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: We were banged up, we weren't healthy.

855
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: Pays no mind to how many of the opposition's players

856
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 2: were out, doesn't care they could also have lost thirty

857
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: one thirteen.

858
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: We weren't healthy.

859
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: And the insinuation there, of course, at the conclusion of

860
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: an eight and four season, is if this right guard

861
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: wouldn't have broken his foot in Week one, we probably

862
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 2: would have won a ship. We probably would have gone

863
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: on a run. At the very least, then we have

864
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer easy Mount Rushmore status. Here questions

865
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: play calling, guy, I think I need to be careful

866
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: cause I'm proably gonna step.

867
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: On a lot of toes in our own viewing audience.

868
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying every play call that is made in

869
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: a game is the right call. What I am saying

870
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: is guys wear in the headsets.

871
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: Are a lot more qualified than you are.

872
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: You sell toyotas all week for a living, you're on

873
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: the road selling insurance. You could not name eighty five

874
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: percent of the opposition's roster.

875
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: And that's even if you're a diehard fan.

876
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 2: These dudes put in like sixteen hour days and probably

877
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: know everything just short of their social Security number and

878
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: blood type. And they've scouted them and they've run through

879
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: tendencies and they know that if that formation is checked into,

880
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: it means we go from this list of plays and

881
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: here's our go to plays, here's our money plays.

882
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: This stuff's not guesswork. This is not like Xbox.

883
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 2: When you guys play football on Xbox, you're choosing play

884
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: by play. When you actually get in a game and

885
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: they're calling plays, it's predetermined based on.

886
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: What the opposition is showing you on the field. It's

887
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: not a whole lot of guess work.

888
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: Like they know, if we get that, we're doing either

889
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: this or this, and maybe the only guess work is

890
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: you get to pick which one. And yet I got

891
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: my guy sitting on the couch and he's down there

892
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: in Savannah, Georgia, and it goes from first and one

893
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 2: to second and eleven and popcorn spews out the mouth

894
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: and he's yelling.

895
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: At Todd Monkin.

896
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: And it's a play calling problem for Georgia. It's not

897
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: an execution problem, it's a play calling problem.

898
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: Can't stand it, Gotta live with it. Though.

899
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: Then there is that guy's cousin, and that is we

900
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: were vanilla on offense for a reason.

901
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: Guy.

902
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: And it's one thing if you're playing UT Chattanooga, all

903
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: due respect to the Mox in Week one, and you're

904
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: up forty five to nothing before halftime, yes, yes, you

905
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: were going to hold things back offensively in the third quarter.

906
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: But we had a situation this past year and I'm

907
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: not going to name James, that's not what we're here

908
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: to do.

909
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: But there was a conference game early in the season

910
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 2: where one team held a one possession lead, again in

911
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: a conference game against their opponent, and they ended up winning,

912
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 2: I think by two scores.

913
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: And I kid you not.

914
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: I had a fan of the winning team justify the

915
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: poor performance in my inbox by saying, and I quote, well.

916
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: You know we held a lot back. I mean, we

917
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: were vanilla offensively.

918
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: This is not a spring game, man, especially if it's

919
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: a conference game, and double, especially if they're keeping score

920
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: and it's one possession in the third quarter. You're not

921
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: holding anything back. It's college football. You're on the edge

922
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: of the cliff every week. You don't have time to well,

923
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: let's just play it out the way we were going

924
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 2: to play it out today. We'll regroup during the week,

925
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: and we'll be better next Saturday.

926
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: There is no safety net in this sport. That's the

927
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: beauty of it. At least for now, there's not.

928
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: So the vanilla play calling guy never too far away

929
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: from you.

930
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: What about who have they played? Guy? Or who have

931
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: they beaten? Guy?

932
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 2: I mean, you could beat two teams into an ever

933
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: loving coma in week one and two, but if they're

934
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 2: not projected to make a bowl. I'm looking on any

935
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: given Reddit threat or Twitter post and I'm seeing about

936
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: twenty percent of the respondent say, yeah, but who have

937
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: they played? I mean, the Los Angeles Rams could descend

938
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: into the Pac twelve and start the season two and oh,

939
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 2: but if they played Fresno in UTEP they would be told, yeah,

940
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 2: but you hadn't played anymore. And there's this fine line here.

941
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: So sometimes you do need to see a certain caliber

942
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: of competition. We all know that we understand the dynamics

943
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: and play here. But it's okay. You know, if you're

944
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: watching teams hang seventy by the start of the fourth quarter,

945
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: they're probably decent. You know, you probably don't have the

946
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 2: same conversation there as if they're squeaking by FCS competition. Okay,

947
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: if you start four and oh, but it's a really

948
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: shaky four and oh and you're favored by thirty five

949
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: and you're winning by ten, you can talk to me

950
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: all you want to about the fact they hadn't played anyone,

951
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: But who have they played? Guy pops up in like

952
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: week ten sometimes when you've got at least somewhat of

953
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 2: a already made interpretable resume at that point for everybody,

954
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: and it's still, well, there's no top ten teams here.

955
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: Who if they played? Never mind the fact they probably

956
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: beat him and knocked HM out of the top ten. Also,

957
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: I wanted to quickly add in the check cleared guy.

958
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: That's essentially reserved for any time you miss on a

959
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,720
Speaker 2: recruit and you think you got him and someone crystal

960
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: balled him to you, but then he swerves last minute.

961
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: It can't be that someone out recruited you. It can't

962
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: be that someone's a better closer. Cash was dropped, a

963
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 2: bag was delivered. The check cleared boom, check cleared guy.

964
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: He wasn't a priority guy is a very close relative

965
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: to check cleared guy. He wasn't a priority is a

966
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 2: pure defense mechanism that forty three year old grown men

967
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 2: use when a recruit spurns their university. He wasn't a priority.

968
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: May not have even had a committable offer. For all

969
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: we know, he was not a priority. And then Jesse

970
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: came up.

971
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: With this one. I wouldn't have thought of this. Jesse said, what.

972
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 2: About academic flex guy, that's the Northwestern fan out there. Well,

973
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 2: Jesse singled out Northwestern. I want to be clear, Jesse's

974
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 2: the Northwestern, not me. I think they got some of

975
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 2: the finest facilities in the land. But Jesse said, you know,

976
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 2: sometimes when the season goes off the rails, but you've

977
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: still got high academic standards, they resort to the academic

978
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: flex and they ask you.

979
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but how many of your players could get in here?

980
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: What's your graduation rate? Buddy?

981
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the confetti's raining down on you and you just

982
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 2: won your third national title in seven years.

983
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 1: But we're graduating kids. We're actually changing the world.

984
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: And then you know, the Alabamas and Georgia's and Clemsons

985
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: of the world, they just go guilty or or conversely,

986
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: you know, we actually do a halfway decent job of

987
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: those things too, but we also win. And by the

988
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: way you control your academic standards, you could change it

989
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: tomorrow if you wanted to.

990
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: That College Football Fan has proved.

991
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 2: To be one of the most fun now episodic segments

992
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: that we've ever had. I'm not capping this right now.

993
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: We could still have additions. In fact, I trust that

994
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: we will have additions now the very very tail end

995
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: of the show. I wanted to touch on something. I

996
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: need to talk to Brandon Walker, and I need to

997
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: do it through this camera a second. So most of

998
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: you know who that is. He hosts many shows, one

999
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 2: that features his name and one that is called Unnecessary Roughness.

1000
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: He works over at Barstool Sports. He's been around the

1001
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:11,479
Speaker 1: block for a minute.

1002
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: So in case you missed what they did, it's a

1003
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: concept that started off innocently enough. They came up with,

1004
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: in true March fashion, a bracket with college football media personality.

1005
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 2: I was unaware of this. One of you alerted me

1006
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 2: to it. So they put the top thirty two in there,

1007
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: and there's nothing wrong with that. But what happened was

1008
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: I was maliciously put in there as a sixteen seed

1009
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: and I was put against Keith Jackson as a one

1010
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 2: seed in the first round. Many problems here. Number One,

1011
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: someone designed that knew good and will what they were doing,

1012
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: and we're gonna get to him in a second. But

1013
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 2: number two, in this alternate universe where I'm even competitive

1014
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: with Keith Jackson, I would just pull the fire along.

1015
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: I would go burn the office building to the ground

1016
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: before I was ever even allowed to compete with Keith Jackson.

1017
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: Because Keith Jackson is my hero. I grew up looking

1018
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 2: up to Keith Jackson. I idolized Keith Jackson. Everyone did

1019
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: who's of any kind of age. And even if you

1020
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 2: aren't of the age where you grew up on Keith Jackson,

1021
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: you just need to type his name into YouTube for

1022
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: the rest of the night and just sit back and listen.

1023
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 2: It's the best voice in the history not only of

1024
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: college football, but of sports broadcasting in my opinion, and

1025
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: I know many of you share that, So I would

1026
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 2: be I would be coach Yost. I would yell to

1027
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 2: Keith Jackson, run it up, Keith, leave no doubt as he.

1028
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: Was body bagging me. That's how excited I would be.

1029
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: And then afterwards, after he hung half a hundred on me,

1030
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 2: I would ask Keith Jackson's autograph. I didn't have a

1031
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: problem with Keith Jackson beating Keith Jackson should smoke me.

1032
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: The problem was how malicious the intent was. Secondly, this

1033
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 2: bracket was dripping with sketch aftness. Where was Joel Klapp?

1034
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 2: You know, where was Brady Quinn? Where's Joe Tessitur? Now

1035
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: I know that Brandon Walker would look and say, well,

1036
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: I got to bump you out to put them in. No, no,

1037
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: there's some other pretty nefarious figures in this thing you

1038
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: could bump before me to in, including the other sixteen seed.

1039
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 1: Might I add, But I had.

1040
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: To respond, not for me, friends, I want to respond

1041
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: for us, because Brandon Walker didn't attack me, he attacked us.

1042
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: And so I thought, you know what, if it's bracket season,

1043
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: then let's make us a bracket.

1044
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: So Colin, let's show the wave kick bracket. We made one.

1045
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 2: It's very easy to interpret, and if you're listening on podcasts.

1046
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: I can't really describe it to you and it have

1047
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: its full effect. I need you to go look on Twitter.

1048
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: I need you to go watch the replay. But Brandon

1049
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: Walker had his own Round one matchup and he got humbled,

1050
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: he got smoked. Dare I say he even got trashed.

1051
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: But Brandon Walker's got.

1052
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: A reputation out there, and I think it's.

1053
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: A problem and it's a character flaw for him that

1054
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: he's got to deal with he and his therapist alone.

1055
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: I really don't have any control over this. But the

1056
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: problem with Brandon Walker is twofold number one.

1057
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: He's solved.

1058
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: He blocks folks when they make fun of it. I

1059
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: don't know that I have a single person on Twitter

1060
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 2: block Brandon Walker's got a whole army of you block again.

1061
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: I'm trying to stand up for you, guys, present us.

1062
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 2: Brandon Walker unfortunately represents himself. But here's the second problem

1063
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: Brandon Walker has. He is soft and he blocks people,

1064
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: but he can't block me. And here is the reason why.

1065
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 2: It's the second big character flaw that Brandon Walker has.

1066
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: He can't block me because he loves me. And Brandon

1067
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: Walker is many things that start with an L, but

1068
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 2: liar is not one of them.

1069
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: I know him to be a very honest person.

1070
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: And I say that because if you go up to

1071
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: him and you confront him and you ask him about this,

1072
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to tell you it's true. Brandon Walker

1073
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: loves me. Brandon Walker even views me as a friend.

1074
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: Brandon Walker, if really he had his way, would probably

1075
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: sit right here and we would just do this show together.

1076
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: And so Brandon Walker cannot block me, and so I

1077
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: can say anything I want.

1078
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: To about it.

1079
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 2: In fact, you can even choose to live vicariously and

1080
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: direct your venom through me, and I can spew it

1081
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: all over him with total and complete immunity. A lot

1082
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 2: of you wanted me to touch on this, so I

1083
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: feel that we have, in a pretty scorched earth fashion,

1084
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 2: touched and so we're gonna let it lie.

1085
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: But I will tell you this.

1086
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 2: Every time I get off this show, I look at

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Speaker 2: this eye, Josh, and I see that Twitter light up,

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Speaker 2: and I see that spaces function there, and I always

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Speaker 2: think to myself, boy, we could jump on there after

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Speaker 2: a show any given night and we could probably have

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Speaker 2: some fun. And you know, you can have as many

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Speaker 2: people on there as you want to you have as

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Speaker 2: many speakers as you want to. I wouldn't it be

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Speaker 2: fun one night if we hopped off here and we

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Speaker 2: just hopped in there fighted Brandon Walker and probably half

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Speaker 2: an army that he's blocked. How that works for spaces

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Speaker 2: But let's just see what the future holds. Okay, my

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Speaker 2: balls are in his court? The quote mere, Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for watching tonight. Make sure you are following

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Speaker 2: on all the social channels at Late Kick Josh, and

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Speaker 2: make sure you're subscribed to the YouTube channel. As I

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Speaker 2: told you, we're doing Late Kick Extra as just a podcast,

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Speaker 2: but we're putting a lot.

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Speaker 1: Of books from it on video.

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Speaker 2: You just got saw a couple of the light outs,

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Speaker 2: so thank you so much for making all that possible.

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Speaker 1: Numbers continue to go up. It provides all explanation.

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Speaker 2: Because it's the middle of well that dirty o words

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Speaker 2: for a lot of people. Is not for us, for

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Speaker 2: director Colin, for producer Jesse, for our production executives, why

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Speaker 2: not even for Brandon Walker.

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Baate, Thanks so much for watching. Have a

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Speaker 1: great start to your weekend. A good points here