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Go 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: to go West, young Man, Go West, young Man, and 28 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: he went to Los Angeles. He's written those shows like 29 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: House of Pain, Rickey Smiley, Show, Raven's Home, and Meet 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: the Browns. He's currently a writing producer on the On 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: the New Tia Maori I worked with tamra own sister 32 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: Sister and Loretta Divine. I did a play with her 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: and Los Angeles, California. The shorts called Family Reunion is 34 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: a comedy series ordered by Netflix. Netflix is buying Everybody 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Well Tia and Loretta Divine Uh set to a headline 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: a new multi generational, multi camera comedy series on Netflix. 37 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: Please welcome to my show Moneyment Conversations Anthony Hill. What's 38 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: going on right man? You know to tell you some 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Anthea it's so proud of you. Man, I gotta get 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: it out and you know, hip hop comedy stop. You 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: just to come by the club and man people for 42 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: you buddy people and uh, you know, but he just 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: had that genuine enthusiast, genuine enthusiasm of ball being uh 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: following his dream. So we're just going back there because 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about. We had two 46 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: breaks and uh, I do want to take time because 47 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people and you know, man, I was, 48 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: I was all about there's a lot of talented people 49 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: in Houston. Let me get that straight, right. There's a 50 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: lot of talented people. But there's a lot of fear 51 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: in Houston about making that decision to move or making 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: the decision to change jobs. There's a lot and I 53 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: look these many years that because we look roughly about 54 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: twenty five years, it's some people that said they didn't 55 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: make that decision. They didn't make that decision to either 56 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: go in New York, I go to Los Angeles. But 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: you did, young man. You listened to Rashan mcdonal. Why 58 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: did you listen to Well, you know what, I think 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: I was too stupid to me text, you know, and 60 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: to know any better you know what it was, man, 61 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: was I always wanted to do something different, and not 62 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: I always knowing what that was. I just knew that 63 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to do something different. And you know when 64 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: I was a kid, I always played by myself in 65 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: my room. I had these little army men and my 66 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: sister's dog. And what would happened was that there was 67 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: one one, one guy being picked on by all the 68 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 1: other guys, and then and then and then he would 69 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: fall off the bed which was the mountain. Then and 70 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: you come back big and my sister crazy dog and 71 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: just beat him him up. You know, that was my 72 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: story all the time. You know it was funny that 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing the same thing now and just getting paid 74 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: for it, right right, right right. You know, I've always 75 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: liked listening to to two stories. You know. Um, what 76 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: I know is that is that now this young brother 77 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: from South Park is a very you know, is a 78 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: man a little fan live. We should listened to it. 79 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: There you go. Now, South Park is like Fifth War, 80 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: it's a very. It's a black community, all right. So yeah, 81 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm in fifth one, a little bit older than him. 82 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: I'm listening to bad Man a little live here in 83 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: South Park. He listened to Bad Man, A Little Live, 84 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: what it was supposed to work? What's happened at all Man? 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: You know, So only my close friends to know that 86 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: about me, you know. And somebody asked me once why 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: are you a man a little fan? And so I 88 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: to think about it, cause because I never really thought 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: it me, I WoT about why, and they realized that 90 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm a man little fan because his songs tell stories, right, 91 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, and I've always liked stories. I've always liked 92 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: beginning middle end. You know, I was a kid in 93 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: school who enjoyed the essay portion of the attest he's 94 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: gonna saying, because I can fake that because I know 95 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: how to do a sort like topic sentence, prove it 96 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: and then end it because all paragraphs is so that early, right, 97 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: you know. So when it comes to me to writing 98 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: the scripts, it's the same same thing in getting middle end, 99 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: you know. And it's something that now the cool thing 100 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: about you is that, like I really want to always 101 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: commend him, because they're different ways to make it in Hollywood. 102 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, you can go after you you know, nepotism, chronism, chronicism, 103 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: and you can you know, you can know a celebrity 104 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: I got new a lot of celebrity. I got a 105 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: lot of through celebrities or you can cpthin captain couches. M. 106 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: That's casting a lot of money these days. That cost 107 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: a lot of you I'm in Hollywood, right and then 108 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: then he come out there, he get a movie right away. 109 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm going like, how do you get the movie? You know, 110 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: he got a movie going to the big screen. Now, 111 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: let's talk about that first movie that you got. Just 112 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: out of the blue? Got a movie they don't know 113 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: the major theaters out of the Blue. It wasn't easy. 114 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: I think it was not easy. You know what it 115 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: happened to me. I see, I don't see. I don't 116 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: believe in luck. So I do believe in blessings, you know. 117 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: I know that I was just placed in the right 118 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: place at the right time, and every thing that even 119 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: worked out great, you know for me. But I got 120 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: it done, you know. So it was so it was 121 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: a pastor who whose name I want so you know, 122 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: I won't name. But but now he had a project 123 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: because he had a friend working on the parent parenthood, 124 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, and he asked me if 125 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to write something against for like for like 126 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: for like ten grand uh sure, you know, because I 127 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: didn't know what the world and so subfactive, but I 128 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: knew that I needed to go forward right right right, 129 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: you know. And if I have any talent, I tell 130 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: all of my friends my my my biggest talent is 131 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: knowing not it's like not knowing how to stop and 132 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: keep going going forward. That's true about you. That's very 133 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: true about you. And I always liked that about you. 134 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: I always liked that about you because of the fact 135 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: that and it was fearless, you know, he was always 136 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: inquiring you, was always next step conversation, you know, you know, 137 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: it was never I never had the same conversation with 138 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: you every day the next day, and that was always 139 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: it was gonna That frustrate trates me about life when 140 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: people are going to have the same you know, conversation 141 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: and and then and then you know, nothing changes. And 142 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: that's why I liked about you, because because a lot 143 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: of people understand there's a stand up comic, which I 144 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: was at the time standing up comics, and a lot 145 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: of people that were talking about who did make the 146 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: transition to Los Angeles stand up comics. So you have 147 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: an advantage over a writer, a writer. You know, you 148 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: can go out there and still hustle. You you gotta 149 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: write scripts. There's no guarantees. But as the stand up 150 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: you can get gigs, you can get giars on the road, 151 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: so you gotta make money. Unlike an actor, you can 152 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: actually make money. And so so when he went out 153 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: there to go to l A, you know, I you know, 154 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: I tell a lot of people, a lot if anybody 155 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: familiar with this show and listen to the show the 156 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,239 Speaker 1: couple of a couple of years I've had this show, 157 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: or a year and a half I had this show. 158 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: You've heard a lot of people coming on the show 159 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 1: talk about the experiences they I've shared with them, about 160 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: advice that I've given them about just do it, and 161 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: that just do it, and then you listen to me. 162 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: That's really, that's really what I'm so proud of the 163 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: fact that you listened and it was driven not by 164 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: any guarantees. No, I mean, well, you know, it all 165 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: make made sense to me. And you know, you know 166 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned that you know, the we're you know, fearless, 167 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: and that that wasn't the case. I was very fearful, 168 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: very prea but I didn't let HI stop me. You know, 169 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: I watched the movie once and there was and and 170 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: and so, and they got talking to his grandson and 171 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: he has his grandson. Do you think that Superman is brave? 172 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: And the kid said, of course, and so of course 173 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: you know soci media, so it is being bravest. He said, no, 174 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: she's not raved. He is he is. He is indestructible. 175 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: You're in destructable. You don't have to be braved, you know. 176 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying though, Tho those of us 177 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: who can't gick, get hurt or killed and do it anyway, 178 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: those are the brave ones, because James is tough. And 179 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: I didn't even know why I was doing about it 180 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: though that do that I was, you know, I not 181 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: always had the always drawn just to just to do more, 182 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: because because when I was in Euston before we he met, 183 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: you know me and so, me and my boys had 184 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: a rugged jobs doing doing doing a rugged thing, regular cards, 185 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and and I was fired with it. 186 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: But then start hanging out with you and Steve and 187 00:09:54,559 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: blah blah. Wait his minute, you mean I mean I 188 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: didn't have a super made they do that thinker for me? 189 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: The measure me is gonna sit me perfectly because his 190 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: mind now right right, right right, is that how I 191 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: grew up. You know what I'm saying, it's learning that 192 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: that those things were, you know, saying possible and and 193 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: and and so and and they they hanging out with 194 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: it the people. That's what I tell a lot of 195 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: young you know what I'm saying. You know, you know 196 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: young guys now me, young people, that it's about who 197 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: you surround yourself with, you know. And it's tough being 198 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: in in in Houston because I wasn't surrounded by people 199 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: who were doing what you want to. I want to 200 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: chest you do as so you got your ten thous dollars, 201 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: so you got your tent than dollar he telling you 202 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: to write. You know, the church. Dude didn't come to me. 203 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: I was on parents who to the town. I could 204 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: have got that ten thousand dollars. So now I'm mad. 205 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: I'm mad now because I was I was writing on you, 206 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: weren't writing nowhere somebody would be get a sandwich. I 207 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: was getting you a sandwich ten dollars. You said, hit yea, 208 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,599 Speaker 1: not your hick yea. And in the next steps, what 209 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: are the next steps after that? Well, the next step 210 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: was the process. And then I learned that I wasn't 211 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,719 Speaker 1: a writer. I was a rewriter. What you're going through 212 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: draft over again, you know and once and just not 213 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: knowing the business of of of show, you know. So 214 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: I got it done, and you know, at that point 215 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: he wanted to take it without giving me the money. Okay, 216 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: then I had a problem. South Park was popping up. 217 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: Now south Park exactly, so now we're not doing that. 218 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't always a right I have another thing for 219 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: for a long time, especially right because you know, I 220 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: didn't have nothing, you know, and when you're writing something, 221 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: you're not doing something else that you want to do, right, 222 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: you know. So that's why people getna get paid because 223 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: whenever somebody you know wants you to write something and 224 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: you and so you say yes, there are a many 225 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: other things that you want to do that that that 226 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: you put off, you know, to the side. So so 227 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: when I got it done and he was a guy 228 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: coming through, we were so we were ready to have 229 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: to go to that when I tell you go to 230 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: court and blah blah blah. So I just said that 231 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: with him and said, look, I got to work done, 232 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: but this is that, and eventually it worked out. He 233 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: didn't rewrite an everything, and I didn't, so I really 234 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: wasn't thrilled with it. But I had a movie credits. 235 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: Was stunned man, and he beat me to the big screen. Man, 236 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: that's cool. You told me. You called me in and say, hey, 237 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: I ain't scared of you. Remember telling me that? Then 238 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: you laughed. You have it right now, you know? But 239 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: I but I knew, But I didn't know where it 240 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: was going. But I knew some of that. I just 241 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: had to act. You do now, I stayed that. That 242 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: was the first one and the only one I know. 243 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: That's that's the beautiful success. After that was sitcom King 244 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: on the phone is my man, Anthony Hill. He's from 245 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: he Hills from Houston, Texas. Uh. Very talent, very talented writer, 246 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: born and boy in south Park, South Park, UH work. 247 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: He'd been familiar with his work as a house of 248 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: pain rickey smiler. So Raven's home and meet the Browns. 249 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna come back and talk about this new series 250 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: on Netflix called Family Reunion. Anthony Hill, I'm so happy, brother, 251 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: so proud of you. I'm back. Ra Sean McDonald on 252 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: the phone is a good friend of mine. Uh, somebody 253 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of. You know, rarely say I mentor people. 254 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: One of this young man, I have to say I 255 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: mentored and shared a lot of great life, life life 256 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: stories with Uh. We actually watch each other's group grow 257 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: up in this business. Uh Mine just been a little 258 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: bit more high profile in this business. But he's been. 259 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: He's been the star in his own right. He's written 260 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: on shows like House of Pain, Rickey Smiley Ravens, Home 261 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: Meet the Browns. He's currently a writer and producer co 262 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: executive producer correct on the new show with a Family 263 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: Union on Netflix. You know, like you see, he's always 264 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: doing stuff that I've before me, Like he did the 265 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: movie for me. Now he's on Netflix for me. Sometimes, 266 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know I should have held you back 267 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: a little bit. Hey, let me get my gig for you. 268 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: Come to Hollywood. But first of all, you have two 269 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: bigger houses. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So let's 270 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: talk about this new show Family but Union with my girl, 271 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: t your Maori, who I you know, watch grow up. 272 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: I did two seasons with her on Her Sister Sister, 273 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Her Sister Tamara Tomorrow. Mara is also uh the host 274 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: on the reel. Uh, So I treated to take him 275 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: out to eat, just really little sisters. They they changed 276 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: television because it was the first time to African American 277 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: young teenagers won't television and gave that slice of life 278 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: to a lot of teenagers of all ethnicities about how 279 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: to relate in the relatable lifestyle. So tell us about 280 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: family reunion and how did you get involved. Well, first 281 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: of all, I told t that you said, you know hello, 282 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: and she was so excited when I said your name 283 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 1: because because there are no other root Shawn, you need 284 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: last name just Rashan. You know exactly who you were 285 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: when I said it good but for the union, and 286 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: it was. I was working on Raber's Home and one 287 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: of the core executive over at Raymond's Home got a 288 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: deal over at Netflix, and I worked with her on 289 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: the show also because the thing about this business is 290 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: when you work with with someone you work well with, 291 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: they bring you with them or you or you bring 292 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: them with you. Because there's been times that I've hired her, 293 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: she's hired me, you know. And so when she got 294 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: that deal, you know, I was doing another show for 295 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: Netflix and they asked her who she wanted as a 296 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: as a co ep of the show, and she said 297 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: to me, in my job was already doing another show 298 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: called Malibu Rescue for a Netflix. So they're like, well, 299 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: who is this guy that y'all both want, you know, 300 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: want him, you know, which felt good for me. And 301 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: then the idea we're working with Tia and you know, 302 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: Loretta and Richard round Tree is you know, im saying, 303 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: he's on the show now and Kill of Hopkins. They're 304 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: on the show now and we're doing uh show that 305 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: speaks to us, you know. Fan of Union is about 306 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: an ex ball player who is from from Atlanta. He 307 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: moved from from Columbus, Georgia. He moves and plays for 308 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: the Seahouse, raises his kids in Seattle, you know, and 309 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: once he once he retires, he moved them back to 310 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: the country pretty much and he's the kids are in 311 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: for culture shock, you know what I'm saying. And we 312 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: hired it and it's a it's an all black writers staff, 313 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: you know. And the way we build this staff is 314 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: it's a very diverse room of writers of black writers 315 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: because because although we're all black, we're all different and 316 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: we all bring, you know, different perspectives, you know, to 317 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: the show. We're shooting number six this week out of twenty. 318 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: And in fact that infis game you gave us twenty 319 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: It is so so it was so is incredible and 320 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: they're so excited you know about the show, and the 321 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: in the audience is the biggest thing we even though 322 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: we here is it sounds like us right, it's so so, 323 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,479 Speaker 1: you know, because I've been on several shows where you know, 324 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, you know, the majority of them of the 325 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: room even you know it's so it's a black leave 326 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: show is white. Yes, yes, And that was totally because 327 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 1: because it because characters are same things you knew they 328 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't say. But when you tell them that, they don't 329 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: believe you because they want to tell that version of 330 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: black people. And I'm not in a position now it's 331 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: our version now, you know, and it's instead of when 332 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 1: I say our, it's not just my version. There are 333 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: there are nine people, um in that room, none black, 334 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: different voices because there's not one character on you know, 335 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: on that show, you know, and all those points are 336 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: actually slet because because because when I'm with my Jewish 337 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: writers friends and everything, and they so a Jewish character 338 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: and I'll pick something and they said, well, I think 339 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: he will say this something like the fact that I'm Jewish, 340 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: blah blah. Okay, I defer, you know, he deferred, Okay, 341 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: but I just give it. But then when I say 342 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: it because well I don't know what you mean. You 343 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: don't know, I that's your question. Well, you know, And 344 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: then that's that's really really interesting you say that because 345 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: of the fact that the people seem to feel that 346 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: you know that that that it's really interesting, like hip 347 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: hop has a culture, but the basic African America doesn't 348 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: have a culture. Okay, because because they would defer to 349 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 1: hip hop language, they go, we were saying like that, 350 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: we say it like that, but if you just talk 351 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: about you, George a sick um, they don't feel that 352 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: there is any particular tone that that a typical African 353 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: American family will be or live a lifestyle. And so 354 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: it really was interesting because how that taking that room 355 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: happens like that because you absolutely are telling the truth. Yeah, 356 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: and so it is frustrating, and I realized that I'm 357 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: going to be frustrated until I have my own mm hmmm. 358 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: You know, because it's easy to fight from the top, 359 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: you know. And so and so were you involved the 360 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: end of the casting of the series. Uh, I was 361 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: involved in in everybody, in every bit and maybe a 362 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: bit of it. So so we're a bit of it. 363 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: So will it for first time? So when will it premier? Um? 364 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: Right now at the tennis date is um June that 365 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: they're talking about a June teenth, you know, which will 366 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: be great. That feels smaller family re union. That's a 367 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: summer tone. That's that's hitting the right the right right 368 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: approach to the whole process. Yeah, now with June team. Now, 369 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years ago, you know, we 370 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: were writing, you know, we was talking about your writing 371 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: career and and I had some projects to go coming 372 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: up and use using a cross road because there are 373 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: different levels of writing and in in Hollywood, you know 374 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: those union writing, that's writing where you know you got 375 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: a job, but it doesn't feel like a job. So 376 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: what is one of the things that that really helped 377 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: me out a lot? Because I can finish this one 378 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: for you, I'd gone because I have been doing shows 379 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: like and I'm gonna preface this by saying that this 380 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: is not a knock on anyone. I appreciate anyone's work, 381 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: you know, but I'm doing work with buying Byron Allen, 382 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: and you know, so Tyler period isn't that and it 383 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: was so it mean, it was fine, but I learned 384 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: that we I want to tell different stories than you 385 00:21:54,320 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: know they do, you know. And I worked a Tiger 386 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: for three and a half years and it so um 387 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: um you know in Atlanta, and when I came back 388 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: here to work, people would will say, I don't want 389 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: to hire a Tyler pair writer. And that sucked because 390 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: I had been doing some some some workwork up there, 391 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: but it it wasn't recognized here. So I work with 392 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: Byron Allen and it was kind of the same type 393 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: thing because it was a show that wasn't on, you know, 394 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: it wasn't a network show. It was the show that 395 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: was on and everything. And you know, again me, the 396 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: storytelling wasn't what I wanted it to actually be. You know. 397 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: So I go to a t L because this dude 398 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: is barbecuing and he was the backyard and she was 399 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: back yard. And I was frustrated. And so he could 400 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: tell tell tell us because I was doing things that 401 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: didn't I said that you don't want to do and 402 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: I was doing it for the money. I was doing 403 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: it for the money, you know, because I have kids 404 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: and they enjoyed eating every day, you know. So what 405 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: you told me, the reason why I'm frustrated is because 406 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm better than the shows I'm doing. And I was 407 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: gonna always be frustrated if I kept doing it, and 408 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: I would always stay in that in that lane if 409 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: I didn't stop. So so the next season I told 410 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,479 Speaker 1: Byron Allen know, and when I to you Rouchean, I 411 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: was so scared. I did that and for a while 412 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: things didn't go right, and I chrised your name my 413 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: bick account and with shrinking like you know, black girl 414 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: hair in the pool, it's just shrinking, man. But what 415 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: happened was I got Disney, So things got a little 416 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: bleak first, but I got Disney, and then Disney expend 417 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: it from Disney to to to UM to Netflix because 418 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: because I knew I couldn't get there from where it was, 419 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: but it was an easier jump from Disney to next 420 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: to to you know, a Netflix show, you know, And 421 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: and let me go even back further because because it's 422 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: happening with us a couple of times when we when 423 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: I first started working, I had stage manager who said, 424 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: who suggested that I invite you to the play. I 425 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: was doing a play in Houston, and I'm thinking, all right, cool, 426 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: because that you're a big time you had to hit 427 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: up comedy stop you know what I'm saying. And you 428 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: came out and everything, and I'm behind the curtain watching 429 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: you and auders hoping you would laugh. And then when 430 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: you did, you know, it's it's because that validated me. 431 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: Who knows I was doing something, because because it's hard 432 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: to make you you you laugh. Well, you know that's 433 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: the beauty of our relationship and the beauty of having 434 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: to honest conversation. Uh. You know, you know, I've been 435 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: trying to get Anthony on this show for a while 436 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: because his story is just uh I wanted a lot 437 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: of people should hear and uh, he should tell it 438 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: a lot more. By the way. Uh. He's the co 439 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: executive producer of the new series of Family Union with 440 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: airs this summer on Netflix. Uh. By man, I love you. 441 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: You keep winning, and you owe me a meal. You 442 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: owe me a big meal, okay, perfect A Listening makes 443 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: us smarter, more connected people. It makes us better partners, parents, 444 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 1: and leaders. 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