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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire.

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Speaker 2: What is up, Straight Fire?

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Speaker 3: It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Tuesday, Febuary fourth,

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Speaker 3: and oh boy, yesterday was yesterday.

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Speaker 2: It was a fun one, ladies and gents.

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Speaker 3: As I'm sure you've seen by now, Coward got a

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Speaker 3: little sick on air.

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Speaker 2: They had to go to the bullpen and called me

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Speaker 3: It was the starter departing after you know, the flu

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Speaker 3: like symptoms, shall we say, in the middle of the

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Speaker 3: first inning, and I had to bring it home. But

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Speaker 3: you know, hopefully Coward's feeling better and he's back in

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Speaker 3: the saddle today.

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Speaker 2: We still don't know yet.

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Speaker 3: I will just say this, it was fun and exciting

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Speaker 3: and obviously doing this podcast I think helps me immensely

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Speaker 3: when it comes to stepping in and hosting. Like they

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Speaker 3: were like, j Mac, we need fifteen minutes like now,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I haven't prepped anything with them fifteen

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Speaker 3: forty with last night.

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Speaker 2: This is Cake, so I was able to do it.

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Speaker 3: So obviously Straight Fire really giving me a boost. And yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm a little excited to do the pod today, not

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Speaker 3: just because of the new audience, but also also because

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Speaker 3: we can.

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Speaker 2: Do a victory lap. Folks.

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Speaker 3: The name Kevin Durant is starting to pop up. Yes,

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Speaker 3: it is, and we talked about it last week. Hey,

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Speaker 3: Bradley Beal's contract is total dogwater. As my thirteen year

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Speaker 3: They were trying to redirect it to Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: They don't want it. Nobody seems to want Bradley Beal.

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Speaker 3: Side note, Bradley Beal's wife posted some stuff about they

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Speaker 3: were getting heckled. She's there with at a game with

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Speaker 3: her young son getting heckled by a Sun's fan, and

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Speaker 3: it was like, come on, fans, we got to do better.

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Speaker 3: Layoff wives and kids. Okay, come on, that's just not cool.

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Speaker 3: If it's an ig model, different story, but but this

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Speaker 3: Beal doesn't seem like he could be moved. And the

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Speaker 3: Golden State Warriors, as you read in certain parts of

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Speaker 3: the Internet, including the Athletic, the Golden State Warriors had

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Speaker 3: Zach Levine as one of their targets. He's off the table.

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Speaker 3: He's now in Sacramento reunited with DeMar de Rosen. It

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Speaker 3: didn't work in Chicago, but maybe now that they're older,

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Speaker 3: it'll work at Sacramento. I don't know, but Kevin Durant's

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Speaker 3: name is starting to emerge as potential. Would he go

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Speaker 3: back to Golden State now? Jake Fisher, who's been on

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Speaker 3: this podcast, he used to be a Bleacher Report.

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Speaker 2: He now works with Mark Stein.

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Speaker 3: They are saying it's unclear if Durant would be open

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Speaker 3: to going back to Golden State, whether the Suns.

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Speaker 2: You know, whether they would even do something like that.

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Speaker 3: They do want Jimmy Butler, but it doesn't seem like

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Speaker 3: they can get off a bill, and Butler has come

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Speaker 3: out and said, I'm not going to sign an extension

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Speaker 3: a sudden, you've got the February sixth trade deadline looming.

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Speaker 3: Rob g Listen Man Kevin Durant, I don't know if

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Speaker 3: we can call him friend of the show, frenemy of

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean Kevin Durant, who knows the wind blows a

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm gonna go ahead and say I

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Speaker 3: don't see Kevin Durant going back to Golden State. I

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Speaker 3: know he's big with narratives and he's big with like

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Speaker 2: Do you think he wants to go back to the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: It's not like him and Draymond, to the best of

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Speaker 3: Draymond apparently as a changed person. He tried to bury

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Speaker 3: the hatchet with Jordan Poole recently with the always great Hey,

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know if the Warriors would have enough

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Speaker 3: Like, I don't know, do the Heat want anything? Are

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Speaker 4: Well, my first thought is shout out to me and

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Speaker 4: you for being ahead of the curve on this one.

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Speaker 4: People who listened to the Weekend Pod last week, we

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Speaker 4: were talking about friend of the Show Brian Windhorse floating

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Speaker 4: out this idea that hey, somebody could get moved there's

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Speaker 4: a big fish that you know potentially. Now, we didn't

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Speaker 4: But we started to speculate, Okay, well, who could it

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Speaker 4: the reason was, and this is something we talked about

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Speaker 4: in the last week's pot We're gonna reach it a

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Speaker 4: little bit, was Bradley Beal holds all the cards in

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Speaker 4: this situation, fowl or fair like, that's the situation. Because

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Speaker 4: he has the no trade clause, he can dictate, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to go here, I don't want to

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Speaker 4: agent on more than one occasion has come out and

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Speaker 4: said he will not be signing off on a trade

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Speaker 4: to la not to one in Chicago, not to want

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Speaker 4: to like he listed teams, and I've never seen that

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Speaker 4: he would have to be to a warm weather city

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Speaker 4: and a team that is ready to compete for a championship.

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Speaker 4: If you're gonna go process of elimination, that really only

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Speaker 4: I don't think Golden State would, and the Texas teams

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Speaker 4: and Miami, well, Miami, according to the athletic is like,

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Speaker 2: Bradley Beal, point blank, period.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what.

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Speaker 4: It costs, we do not want him. And this is

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Speaker 4: what we talked about on Friday. If you can't trade

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Speaker 4: Bradley Beal, the Phoenix Suns, who are the definition of

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Speaker 4: mediocrity with this Big three if you can call him

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Speaker 4: he's a homegrown guy. Or you entertain trading Kevin Durant

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Speaker 4: because you are so deep in the hole financially with

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Speaker 4: this new second April number one, and you have no

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Speaker 4: either get other players that can step in two three

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Speaker 4: you got to get so many picks that wants this

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Speaker 4: it's not going to be a championship. You can replenish

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Speaker 4: the cupboard some way, some four. And as great as

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Speaker 4: KD is, I don't see him wanting to go back

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Speaker 4: to Golden even if they did agree to the terms,

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Speaker 4: I don't see KD just saying yes, you agreed to it.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be Kaminga and Wiggins and two First, nah,

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Speaker 4: I'm good. And I think Phoenix, even though he doesn't

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Speaker 4: just accept, Hey, we don't want to do this guy

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Speaker 4: dirty like that because he's been nothing but a good

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, this is a tough one.

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Speaker 3: It's very difficult to pinpoint how this would go down.

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Speaker 3: Let me enter a late name into the mix. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I have not heard his name bandied about now. However,

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Speaker 3: last summer he was, you know, perhaps gonna be on

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Speaker 3: the Lakers lineup or a roster. So the Atlanta Hawks

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Speaker 3: like one of the best players in his class, goes

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Speaker 3: everybody labeled him a quitter. Meanwhile, this guy's ridiculously talented,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson is a young guy.

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Speaker 3: He's he had been averaging eighteen ten and five this season,

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Speaker 3: and he just looks like a like a major stud.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to find his age. He is twenty three

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Speaker 3: in Atlanta, Rob, I don't know if you can see

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Speaker 3: where I'm going with this. They are currently ninth in

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Speaker 3: they unload Levine. The Sixers are probably gonna end up

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Speaker 3: passing the Hawks once guys start coming back. The Raptors

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Speaker 3: kind of stink. But there's a world, Rob where the

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Speaker 3: Hawks can say, hey, we lost Johnson, He'll be back

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Speaker 3: next year. He's our guy. We like DeAndre Hunter, you know.

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Speaker 3: We like Dyson Daniels, who is a ridiculous defender. He's

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Speaker 3: starting to show some things. We got the young kid,

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Speaker 3: Resa Scha Clint Capella. We could move him. Is there

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Speaker 3: a world where the Atlanta Hawks say, what if we

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Speaker 3: moved off Trey Young, got off Trey Young, send him

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Speaker 3: to Miami and we decide we're gonna tank.

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Speaker 2: I think now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Trey Young fits rob Gie's favorite

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Speaker 3: line hashtag heat culture, because he's like undersized and doesn't

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Speaker 3: really defend a lot and a defensive back cooard of

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Speaker 3: Trey Young and Tyler Hero ain't stopping much. But I'm

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Speaker 3: just gonna float the name Trey Young out there. It's

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Speaker 3: tough right now because point guards, even Deer and Fox,

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Speaker 3: rob this is a who put up awesome numbers, and

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Speaker 3: then you look at You're like, oh, he's been to

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Speaker 3: the playoffs once, it hasn't even won a round.

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Speaker 2: You know, he can't be your best player? Could he

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Speaker 2: be your second best? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Trey Young was the Hawk's best. They got to a

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Speaker 3: conference finals. Now things broke their way, remember they took

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Speaker 3: down the Sixers. I don't know, Rob, I gotta ask

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Speaker 3: Trey Young. I don't know if like people are kind

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Speaker 3: of off him now, but I think he leads the

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Speaker 3: league in assists. Maybe as he matures he becomes a

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Speaker 2: I don't know, But can you see a.

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Speaker 3: Guy like Trey Young and the Hawks deciding, yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: not for us, Let's see if we can get Trey

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Speaker 4: Well, he's kind of made it so that his market

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's really toughest guard market.

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Speaker 3: We could wrap up here real quick because the NBA

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Speaker 3: Monday morning. Miles Garrett has said I would like to

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Speaker 2: First of all, he's still in his prime. He's still elite.

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Speaker 2: Let's just give that up. What it Browns, What do

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 2: And you move on.

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Speaker 3: Remember they whiffed on Chase Chase Young from Ohio State

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not bad. So what about Detroit.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Detroit has the eighth most capspace, fifty six

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Speaker 4: million entering twenty twenty five. I guess the only problem

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Speaker 4: with that is if you're Detroit is your window is

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Speaker 4: two years. Max, I think, well, I think the window

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Speaker 4: is already shrinking. Losing both cords.

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Speaker 3: Sure, sure, but you get Hutchison and Garrett, that's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 4: Them going after Miles Garrett, you have to give up

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Speaker 4: I would assume at least a one and a two

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Speaker 4: around there. If you make that kind of move, you're

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Speaker 4: basically going full Rams that they did with the Stafford,

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Speaker 4: Aaron Donald OBJ Cooper Cup team, where it's hey, our

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Speaker 4: run is two years, and if we can't get it

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Speaker 4: done in two years, we're kind of fucked because we

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Speaker 4: were not going to be able to keep all these

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Speaker 4: guys anymore. And you know, Minnesota has cap space too,

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Speaker 4: but they're in the same kind of situation where because

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Speaker 4: they're gonna have to pay. I mean, if they don't

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Speaker 4: keep Donald, maybe you can do that with JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: But Miles Garrett said the reason why he wants out

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Speaker 4: of Cleveland is because he wants to win his super

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Speaker 4: Bowl and he just as high as anyone might be

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Speaker 4: on JJ McCarthy. I don't think in year one he

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Speaker 4: makes the Vikings a super Bowl team, you know, So

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Speaker 4: that's a that's an.

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Speaker 2: Interesting situation, probably tough.

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Speaker 4: I will say, though, this this whole Miles Garrett thing,

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Speaker 4: it feels like the what is it, the the final remnants,

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Speaker 4: the last insult of the Deshaun Watson contract, because before

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Speaker 4: they had Watson, when it was Baker Mayfield, they were

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Speaker 4: building something. You might say Baker had a get a

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Speaker 4: cap and he wasn't able to get never going to

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Speaker 4: be reaching that ceiling. But once they gave up everything

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Speaker 4: they gave up for Watson plus the contract, they they

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Speaker 4: can't move off of him. Yeah, realistically, so you're trapped.

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Speaker 4: So it cost you what the prime years of Nick Chubb,

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Speaker 4: if you want to it probably cost getting hurt.

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Speaker 2: But they had Odell, they had jervis Land. Yeah, they

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Speaker 2: had it. They pieces. I think they beat.

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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh in a playoff game, and I don't remember what

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Speaker 3: happened in their next seat was it did they lose

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Speaker 3: to the Chiefs?

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Speaker 2: They lost to the Chips.

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Speaker 3: Mahomes got the concussion, remember, and they had like a chance,

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Speaker 3: but I guess Baker could not deliver on her drugs.

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Speaker 4: Chad Henny, Chad Henny came up clutch for Casey.

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Speaker 2: Chad Henny clutched up. That's right, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 4: And so they were right there, and then once they

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Speaker 4: make the move for Deshaun Watson, it's like everything fell

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Speaker 4: apart so quickly and now you're this is like the

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Speaker 4: last bill that has to be paid where it's gonna

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Speaker 4: cost you. Arguably the best play to come through there

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Speaker 4: since Jim Brown.

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Speaker 2: Big swing. It was a big swing for Watson. At

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Speaker 2: the time, I liked it. I did.

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Speaker 3: They were desperate Watson, but that was when he was good,

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Speaker 3: and we didn't know that he was creepy.

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Speaker 2: We didn't know he was full on creepy.

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Speaker 3: We were like, there were rumblings of it, but it

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Speaker 3: wasn't what it is now. It's like justin Tucker level stuff.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, we didn't know. We didn't know.

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Speaker 4: We didn't know that he needed to get the he

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Speaker 4: needed to be a predator basically to be a good

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Speaker 4: football player.

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Speaker 2: Oh allegedly, but it's not a terrible take. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: glad you went there on me. Anyways.

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Speaker 3: All right, fun stuff listen. NBA is gonna be chaotic

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Speaker 3: this week. Super Bowl bets are coming later in the week.

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Speaker 3: We got a good interview with an author that you

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Speaker 3: guys are like. But that's it for today.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow. See then,