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Speaker 3: I am so excited for today's guests. I know I

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Speaker 3: welcome my dear friend, Mariah Stackhouse. Mariah, welcome to the party.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited have you. I can't believe that this

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Speaker 4: I don't know how many years.

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Speaker 3: It's been too long, And of course I did it

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Speaker 3: here in the atl So I'm happy to be in

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Speaker 2: Welcome to my city.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the traffic wasn't too bad.

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Speaker 3: So okay, we like to start each pod with a

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Speaker 2: I'm ready?

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Speaker 3: All right, here we go. Okay, would you rather play

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Speaker 4: Who's your celebrity?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if she plays golf, but it's

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Speaker 1: always been Rihanna.

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Speaker 3: You know what, She's gonna play golf now, okay, all right,

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Speaker 3: win a major tournament or a hole one at augusta

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Speaker 3: major tournament. Yeah, yeah, life without social media or without FaceTime?

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Speaker 2: Without social media, I think okay, I would.

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Speaker 3: Die out of the way. But okay, all right, get

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Speaker 3: caught on live TV arguing with your caddie or go

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Speaker 3: viral for celebrating a win with a cringe TikTok dance.

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Speaker 3: That was kind of a lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm gonna choose the caddyash and forgot

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go okay, okay, all good.

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Speaker 3: I feel that, Okay, all right, be known for your

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Speaker 2: Swaggy style off the course, because you don't have to

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Speaker 3: That's a good point.

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Speaker 4: I feel like you're already like really swaggy.

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Speaker 3: You know. That's exactly why I'm asking this, all right.

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Speaker 3: Last one for would you rather date behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny, dang making making sewer like but also

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Speaker 3: All right, So let's go a edd and get started.

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Speaker 3: For everyone who is listening or watching, Mariah and I

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Speaker 3: So we had to start from the very beginning, and

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Speaker 2: My dad, My dad got me started.

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Speaker 1: I was two years old, okay, and let my parents

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Speaker 1: He cut me down some sticks, took me to the

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Speaker 3: So you know, one of my favorite memories of us

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Speaker 3: And I'll never forget it because me and my dad

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Speaker 3: That growing up because of you guys, but you, you

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Speaker 1: He was my coach. He literally was at every single

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't believe that these are dated in O five

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Speaker 3: You were totally welcome to keeping some of those photos.

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Speaker 2: You can't escape the tiger floor.

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Speaker 3: Oh you can't, you can't.

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Speaker 2: And we would always hang out.

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Speaker 1: Oh, performance wise, my career high was definitely twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: also just the moments that I have off the course

444
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Speaker 1: with friends that I have on tour that just makes

445
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Speaker 1: the journey special.

446
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,400
Speaker 3: Who's your closest friends on tour?

447
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,400
Speaker 1: Gemma Driver right now is probably one of my best

448
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 1: buds on tour and actually a pet that I see

449
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,479
Speaker 1: lpga an Elise.

450
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 2: She's also probably one of my favorite people.

451
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 1: Charlotte Thomas and Lauren Kim. Lauren was my college teammate

452
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,640
Speaker 1: and then Charlotte went to Washington, so we played a lot.

453
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:58,080
Speaker 1: They've both since retired, so that's that's.

454
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 2: Kind of that happens a little bit too.

455
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 1: But no, I definitely still have plenty of friends on tour,

456
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: and I'm not one of those people that like only

457
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 1: hangs out with a certain amount of people. I have

458
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: like friendships with a lot of the younger players that

459
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: are coming up as well. Like I'm a pretty friendly person,

460
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's easy to build those relationships. But

461
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 1: those were like my those are like yes, yes, especially

462
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,240
Speaker 1: Lauren shar like playing so much together. We played Washington

463
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: pretty much all the time at the tournament because we

464
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 1: were in the same conference RP Pack twelve. But yeah,

465
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,240
Speaker 1: that just kind of makes you, you know, tight.

466
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So of course, like what comes with highs,

467
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 3: there are some lows, and so how do you feel

468
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 3: like golf has been treating you?

469
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: Yeahs of late. I mean the last few years have

470
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: definitely been rough. I had it glip maybe about three

471
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: and a half seasons ago, where putting just kind of

472
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: became a little bit of a mental block for me.

473
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: And I've always been a pretty solid putter ever since

474
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: junior golf, and so that was tough to navigate, but

475
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 1: it was also fun to fight through. Like I feel

476
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: like when you have challenges, kind of have to embrace

477
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: them and it's a time to develop a new approach.

478
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: So I did that, got over that, and then started

479
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 1: having various physical issues. So I ended up having some

480
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 1: back tightness one summer that I had to fight through.

481
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 1: This was like twenty twenty two, got pretty bad, and

482
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: then start experiencing like some hip and upper back stuff.

483
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: Like I've since figured out.

484
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,000
Speaker 1: Like what's going on, But as you're seeing now, I'm

485
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: in a sling. Actually just had shoulder surgery at the

486
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 1: end of March. But it's those little things that actually

487
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: contributed to this. And so now what I'm hoping is

488
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: this is going to be probably about a three to

489
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: four month recovery process, and so I have time, Like

490
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: you don't really have time as a golf right, we

491
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: talked about it. It's all year round, so when you

492
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: have those little issues, it's like you want to try

493
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 1: to fix it, but it's not like you can stop playing.

494
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: So I've never really had time to loosen that hip up,

495
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: work on that glute firing, and do the things I

496
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: need to do to be a smooth and well oiled

497
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: machine so that I'm not using the wrong parts my

498
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: body to perform certain functions. So now I actually finally

499
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 1: get time to address the whole chain, which I'm looking

500
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: forward to and hopefully that.

501
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: Makes me a brand new golfer. You have no swing

502
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: issues and everything.

503
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 4: That's a great approach.

504
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: I mean, it's so true, like as a golfer, you

505
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: don't have time. And I think people can argue that, like, oh, golf,

506
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 3: it's a low contact for you know, you're not going

507
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: to get injured. You're only hurting like maybe ten nights

508
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 3: here whatever here. But like when that thing adds up

509
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,679
Speaker 3: and you're off a season, you can completely lose your

510
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: status or lose whatever you have. But I think you

511
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 3: have such like a positive outlook. Yeah, maybe it's just

512
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: your body saying you need a break.

513
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, really like pill out.

514
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,920
Speaker 4: Work on some things.

515
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: So, speaking of status on tour, can you explain to

516
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 3: our listeners and viewers, like, what is your current status

517
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 3: right now and how does that work?

518
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: Yes, so right now I'm pretty much playing on epps

519
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: and tours, so I have LPGA status, but in the

520
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: class that won't get me into a lot of tournaments.

521
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 1: So with my LPGA status, specifically with people in my position,

522
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: the ideal goal for everyone would be to get into

523
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 1: a season before the first reshuffle, which typically happens sometime

524
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: in May, and reshuffle means priority list, and a priority

525
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: list determines which events you get into for the rest

526
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: of the year. And so if you before the first

527
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: reshuffle can do a Monday qualifier and make a cut

528
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: or get a sponsor exemption make a cut, you shuffle

529
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: up pretty quickly then and then you'll be playing for

530
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: the rest of the season until the second reshuffle. There's

531
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: two reshuffles in the season, and each time you just

532
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: want to climb the priority list, and so obviously can't

533
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 1: do this year, so I won't be able to play

534
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: any of those spring LPGA events. But as soon as

535
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: I'm healed and doctor clears me to go compete and

536
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: swing full ya again, then I'd be playing Epsen. And

537
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: so the route for Epsen you can top ten I

538
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: think actually now top fifteen and earn LPGA status for

539
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 1: the following season. So it's basically corn Ferry for the

540
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: women's tour, and so you tap fifteen for US, you

541
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 1: get LPGA status and then we still have on the

542
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: Women's Qualifying Series And so the last resort then would

543
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: be to go to second stage. I would start there,

544
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: play in Venice qualify and then go play the later

545
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: two events in Alabama and gotcha get your card that way.

546
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 2: So there's there's several avenues.

547
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: Okay, So since you are injured right now, in a

548
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 3: perfect world, what would be your path when you get

549
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 3: better and when would you like to start competing again?

550
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: Yes, I would hope to start competing into July early

551
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: August of this year.

552
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, I'm a comeback.

553
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: Yes, that gives about four month period and so obviously

554
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: it'll just be getting back into the swing of things

555
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: for a while. So I think it's probably a little

556
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: too late at that point to go to EPs and

557
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: root unless you get a couple victories very quickly, which

558
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: is not impossible, but at that point the points list

559
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 1: for apps and tours pretty solidified. But what I'd want

560
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: to do is compete, play and work as much with

561
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: my coaches possible, get ready and be ready for second stage,

562
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: our second yeah, stage two of Q series down in Venice,

563
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: and be able to play for the cards through that way.

564
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: Got it?

565
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: And so then by next year, best case scenario, you

566
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: just be back in a better situation with the LPGA.

567
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, all right, got it?

568
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 2: Man? What a grind.

569
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: It is such a grind.

570
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 4: It is not easy.

571
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 3: I think when I was talking to Cheyenne and Angel,

572
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: we were just talking about the difficulty of like it's

573
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: such a win to be on the tour, yes, but

574
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 3: to keep yourself on the tour and to be healthy

575
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: both mentally physically everything like that is a whole different

576
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: ballgame in itself, and I can't, like, I just can't

577
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: imagine like the emotional roller coaster that you let's go through,

578
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 3: which it leads to the next question is how are

579
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: you mentally?

580
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: You know, I think right now, mentally I'm feeling really

581
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: solid and feeling optimistic, like when you battle through stuff

582
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: where you just don't feel physically, that becomes aware mentally.

583
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: I would say the strongest part of my golf game

584
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: has always been my ball striking. But once my body

585
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: wasn't loose enough, once my body wasn't strong enough for

586
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: certain areas, there's no consistency there anymore, and so that

587
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: was a struggle as well. So I think right now

588
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: I just feel hopeful, which makes me feel mentally sound

589
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: because I have an opportunity to course correct, work on

590
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: these things and hopefully come out better than I was before.

591
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: So that's where I am right now.

592
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: So like as we know, like as being a professional

593
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: ath that you're juggling a lot of things. It's not

594
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: just mental and it's not just physical, but you also

595
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: got the marketing side of things. You have your sponsors,

596
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: you have to show up to your shoots and whatnot.

597
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 3: How do you juggle that part of things?

598
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that part is actually I view that for me

599
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 2: the fun part of this job.

600
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 3: Some players think it's kind of like a burden. Yeah,

601
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 3: you know, it takes away from the game, but no,

602
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: that's so good to get.

603
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: All looks and my sponsors make it possible for me

604
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: to play the game.

605
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 2: Like, look at me right now.

606
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: I'm not able to compete, which means I'm not making

607
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: money on the course, but I have my sponsors to

608
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: be able to rely on financially to get me through

609
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: this part of the journey. And so not only do

610
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: I find it enjoyable, it's what I do to say

611
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: thank you, right Like it's obviously part of the contract,

612
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: but for me, it's also.

613
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: A thank you.

614
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: My sponsors use me a lot for client interaction and

615
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: things like that, and I enjoy that. I think the

616
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: part of me that didn't play golf probably would have

617
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: gone to the corporate world, Like I enjoy being in

618
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: that space and just seeing what that side of life

619
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: is like and getting to interact with people in different spheres.

620
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: I find that like enriching. And I don't get that

621
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: on the golf course. Maybe in the programs, but that's

622
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: just about it. That's the easy stuff. That's the easiest stuff.

623
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: For you had a couple of shots and smile. That's

624
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: the easiest stuff. I can't even complain about that.

625
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 3: So your sponsor is through your injuries and you know,

626
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: any stepbacks like they just they just ride with you.

627
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: Yes, And I'm incredibly grateful I've got a great team

628
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: around me. It's a blessing and I'm thankful for it.

629
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: So when they need me to show up, I show

630
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: up fully and happy to do so.

631
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 4: I love that. I think that's always like a fear.

632
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 3: Right. I could lose everything if I say too much,

633
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: or if I if I get hurt, and so I

634
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: love that. Sure people are are right behind you. Yeah,

635
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: and so, like you said, you feel like you still

636
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: got a lot more gas in the tank to play golf.

637
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 3: So if you could give a timeline, how much longer

638
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: in a perfect world would you want to keep going.

639
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: If I get through this and I get my game

640
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: back to a point where I feel like I'm competitive

641
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: in the way that i'd like to be, I'll go

642
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: until that's gone. I don't see me playing fresh at forty,

643
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: but I'm willing to give a good chunk of the

644
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: rest of my thirties to it. If I feel like

645
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: I still have my game, I feel like that's it.

646
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: It's just about being competitive.

647
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 3: No, I love that answer. I can't wait to see

648
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: the comeback. That's gonna be amazing, all.

649
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 4: Right, So we're gonna shift gears for a little bit.

650
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: You know, women's golf has actually gone through a lot

651
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: of positive change in my opinion, from the professional golf

652
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: perspective with the purses, from the social perspective, women's golf

653
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: as a whole lot more programs for younger girls, which

654
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: we didn't really we didn't get the y'all. We didn't

655
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: get to see each other unless we played well. Literally

656
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: our win was seeing one another okay and having a

657
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: rain delay and then hanging out. So that being said,

658
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: how do you feel about just the state of golf

659
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: right now? There's been a lot of change since we've

660
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: got into it.

661
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: I think it's incredibly promising. Like that's the word I

662
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Speaker 1: we use for golf right now. And I think it's

663
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Speaker 1: not just golf, it's women's sports. We're just in a

664
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Speaker 1: place where I feel like the sports world and sports

665
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: lovers are open right now to consuming women's sports as well,

666
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: and so I think that golf has a unique opportunity

667
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: to take advantage of that interest and I think that

668
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: they're doing so, but it could even increase. I look

669
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: at social media for other sports organizations, I'm like, I

670
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: want to see a little bit of that fun.

671
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: In that life.

672
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: I'm going to ask you about this but you're already

673
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: talking about it, so I'm going to let you go

674
00:30:59,080 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: with it.

675
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: Yes, I love to see some of that life come

676
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: to it. So I think what makes golf both unique

677
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: and challenging in terms of marketing is that it's not

678
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: a team sport, so you are marketing individual people who

679
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: oftentimes might be shy, who oftentimes might not. It's harder

680
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: to take advantage and push yourself on like social platforms,

681
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: and I find this challenging for myself as well. I'd

682
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: i'd love to do more, But it's not like I'm

683
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: in a locker room with my teammates and say, hey,

684
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: can you hold the phone and get this for me.

685
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: I go to the golf course here at home and

686
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: buy myself. I go to the golf course on tour.

687
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I have my caddy, but we're focused, We've got a plan.

688
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: So I think that the tour could do a good

689
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: job of finding players like personalities and bringing it out

690
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: in different ways, whether that's getting into some of the

691
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: TikTok challenges or ig real challenges, coming up with something

692
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: on their own that's like golf specific, and then getting

693
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: the players that you can to buy into it and

694
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: like pushing those little clips, because I think women's sports

695
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: do best when people are connected to the players personalities

696
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: and journeys. Right, Like a lot of times when men's

697
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: sports are like if you're great, you're just great, right,

698
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: But I think women's sports, when I've seen them do

699
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: the best, it's because people get attached to the players

700
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: as a community. And so I feel like right now

701
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: on women's sports is just on the rise, Like that's

702
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: something we could do to bring off to the forefront.

703
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 3: I mean, just amen, you're speaking my language, literally goose

704
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: bumps the moment that I knew I wanted to walk

705
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: away from playing professionally, Like that's all I ever wanted

706
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: for you guys. It's like to show how amazing you

707
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 3: all are, the grind that it takes, and like.

708
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 4: You literally pulled the words from my mouth. I'm like, LPGA,

709
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: you listening, I can do this. We can do this.

710
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: And so basically you're saying your solve is is to

711
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: try and just highlight those personalities, really allow the audience

712
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 3: to fall in love with the girls so that we

713
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: can make the same changes just as these other sports.

714
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: So as we know, we don't really have an LPGA

715
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: commissioner at this moment, and if Mariah Stackhouse was the

716
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: l PGA commissioner, what is something that you do change

717
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: add what would you do to try and help the

718
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: girls feel more supported?

719
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: I think from an on course perspective, the tour actually

720
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: does a really great job of providing like things players need.

721
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: We have a player board, and I think they listen

722
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: and implement that stuff faster. So I think my focus

723
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: would be on growing the brand of the tour, and

724
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: in order to do that, you have to grow the

725
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: brand of the players, right they are the draw and

726
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: so I think that I would actually spend a good

727
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: bit of time with the media side just coming up

728
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: with a vision and saying, what can we do to

729
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: make the LPGA on par with the growth of the WNBA,

730
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: right on par with the growth of the NWSL. I

731
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: think that that would be really cool to see. I

732
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: think I'd spend a lot of time, like in different

733
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: markets in the US and try to tap into some

734
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: new sponsor engagement. I think that's another side we're on

735
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: the rise. Try to get some more tournaments in different

736
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: cities and the states, Like right now Atlanta doesn't have one.

737
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: Georgia is a big golf state, Atlanta is a big

738
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: golf city and we have no LPGA tournament here and

739
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: I just think that's crazy.

740
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: I tell I've told the whole commissioner. I'll talk to

741
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: the people on tour about this.

742
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: But I'm like, literally, anytime you all are in the

743
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: Atlanta market looking for someone, tap me in. Like, if

744
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: you're trying to get one of these Atlanta based companies,

745
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: I will come with you and go play with the

746
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: exacts who are like I will do whatever I can

747
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 1: to support the cause. But yeah, I think that there

748
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: are cities in the US that don't have golf tournaments

749
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: that could and obviously getting sponsorship. It's not like cookie cutter.

750
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying that like it's easy. I know that it's

751
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: and I know that the tour does everything they can

752
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: to continue to grow and continue to provide those events.

753
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: But those will be my two focuses.

754
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: Again, you just taking the mean mo, you just got

755
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: to be the commissioner.

756
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 2: You're just preaching.

757
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: I mean, I think all very very tangible things. Yes,

758
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 3: and I think that we are heading in that direction,

759
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 3: which is great, But I think my only concer and

760
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 3: I don't want us to miss the mark of the

761
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: growth of women's sports as a whole, Like we like

762
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: women's golf is always just a little bit behind, right

763
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: or golf in general. Yes, we're always a little bit

764
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: behind the trends or what's cool or what's happening. And

765
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 3: it's like, this is not that time to be.

766
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: We need to get on this wagon right now.

767
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: You don't have to throw away tradition to progress, and

768
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: I think golf gets so tied. So this is how

769
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: we've always done it. You can stay traditional and progress

770
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: at the same time, and it has to be done.

771
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, great answer. Clearly you're really big on wanting

772
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: to grow the game, not only for the other women

773
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 3: that are playing at a professional level, but I know

774
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: that you're really big about creating more accessibility, especially for

775
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: the African American community. And fun fact, I just learned this.

776
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 3: So you are one of eight African American women to

777
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 3: get your LPGA Tour card and you're the youngest female

778
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 3: Black woman to qualify for the US Women's Open. Did

779
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: you know these things of yourself, because I know, Okay,

780
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: I love that. I'm I mean, you're breaking barriers and

781
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 3: like not to say that in a cheesy way, but

782
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: legitimately you really are making a difference. And like that

783
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 3: being said, I've also been seeing your involvement with Underrated

784
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: with is Steph.

785
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 4: Curry's new tour. Can you tell me a little bit

786
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 4: about the tour?

787
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, role, Yeah, it's really just tapping in and saying here,

788
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: here are some athletes who have promised. And I love

789
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: the term underrated right because what it says talent is there,

790
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: it just needs opportunity and a platform, and so it's

791
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: just tapping in across the country. I love the tour

792
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: format because it's kids that might not have played say

793
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: AJGA or local tours and understand the process of like

794
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: playing events, earning points and then getting to championships at

795
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: the end of the year. So it's teaching about what

796
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: it is to be a part of a garth organization

797
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: and get points and progress. And so I think it's

798
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: fun to educate the kids and the parents on like

799
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: what that process looks like. And then that the championship.

800
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: KPMG and I come on and they support the kids

801
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: throughout the season. But then I come and specifically along

802
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: with Underrated Golf Tour and KPMG and show up for

803
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: the championship event and do some programming for both the

804
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: parents and the kids, because golf is like you could

805
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: do a whole couple of segments. So I'm like, what

806
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: it takes to get through the junior golf circuit, right,

807
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: Like how parents navigated that.

808
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 2: Not knowing it themselves, like shut out to them.

809
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: Like, Okay, let's put some money down.

810
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 4: That's a big tournament.

811
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 2: This sounds good. Everybody says, play this one.

812
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: Let's do it right, But like it's overwhelming the junior

813
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: golf space because there's so much out there.

814
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 2: Where do I start?

815
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: Okay, how do I get here? So we get the

816
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: opportunity to connect with the parents and the kids. I

817
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: talked to them about a lot about golf, the mental process,

818
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: affirming themselves. My dad even does a session with the parents.

819
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: But then there's also programming like a college recruiter will

820
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: come in and talk about that process. Someone will talk

821
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: about how you navigate like rankings and different golf tours

822
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: across the country. But I think that it's just an

823
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: informational session for them. We're investing in them as young golfers.

824
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: We're giving them the opportunity to play premier courses all

825
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: across the country and honestly giving them a platform getting

826
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 1: them noticed, right, Like I know a couple of players

827
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: based on their Underrated performance at the Championship have gotten

828
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: college interests. So that's that's the goal, right, we want

829
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: to get you to college, and we want to get

830
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: you to professional golf. And that's if that's what you endeavor.

831
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: But I realized that Underrated does that much.

832
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's truly an investment in these young golfers

833
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: and they love it. They have a great time, and

834
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: it just it's wonderful to be a part of and

835
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: it feels impactful. And I know that it has been

836
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: based on what we've seen from some of the juniors.

837
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: So I am grateful to be a part of it.

838
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: Love that KPMG was excited to come on board as well.

839
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: Like that's the beauty of having like a good sponsorship

840
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: team around you is you get to bring your passions

841
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 1: and their passions together and make a difference. As staph

842
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: Are always loved golf, Like I thought it was so

843
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: cool when he did the Underrated Golf.

844
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: It's like stuff, still playing it at the top of

845
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: his game. It takes the time to do stuff for

846
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 2: so many other people.

847
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 4: It is he cool.

848
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 1: Yes, a person he's as cool as you think he's like,

849
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: but just like truly a man of the community. I

850
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: love junior golf. It's just one of the favorite things

851
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: that I do. Like I love to do clinics. I

852
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: love to go and teach the kids. So whatever I

853
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: can do to like support the youth and the pipeline

854
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: of junior golf to professional golf, and especially to get

855
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: more young black golfers into that space as well. Like

856
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: you that statistic, he said, it's crazy, Like, let's make

857
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: that so much, like, let's get us out there to

858
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: where there's no statistic even needed, right, So, yeah, whatever

859
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: can I can do to the support the growth of

860
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: the sport, like I'm here for the kiddos, you definitely are.

861
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 3: All right, So we are already whining down, but we're

862
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: gonna end with a fun game, okay, and the game

863
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,919
Speaker 3: is called What's in the DMS? Okay, all right, soon

864
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 3: I'm going to hit you with the scenario, okay, and

865
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: you're gonna tell me if you would just heart it,

866
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: like it, block it, okay, respond?

867
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, are the options here we go?

868
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: All right, Let's say a fan makes a TikTok montage

869
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: of you and all your best shots and tag you.

870
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: How would you respond or would you respond?

871
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: If I see it?

872
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: I would definitely heart it, and you see it is

873
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: a point like I miss so much stuff with Ig,

874
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: like it's terrible, especially like my message request, like sometimes

875
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: I just forget to go hit them and I need

876
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: to get that I like.

877
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 3: You could be sitting on money and sponsors.

878
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Speaker 1: Right, you're right, okay, but I would definitely heart it.

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Speaker 1: Probably would even comment like.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, all right, Tiger would sends good round today.

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Speaker 2: That's it freaking out, like you better see that one.

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Speaker 2: Better see that one? No, that would be that would

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Speaker 2: be incredible. I'd probably just been like, oh my god, Tiger,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you're responding. That would be crazy work if you

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Speaker 4: just hearted.

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Speaker 2: It like the insane we're responding to Tiger. Okay.

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Speaker 3: A major golf friend says, let's collab, but you never

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Speaker 3: like their stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna have to be anough for me.

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Speaker 3: So it's just a left unseene yes, yeah, yes, fair, okay,

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Speaker 3: all right, it gets harder.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Last one, a golf influencer you've never met, sins hey,

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Speaker 3: let's shoot content together, but she's more of like a

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Speaker 3: sexy golf babe.

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Speaker 1: It depends on how much we're talking. I feel like, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't care.

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Speaker 2: It would just feel like what what am I expected to?

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Speaker 2: What do I need to do in this content? I

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Speaker 2: would I would probably just want to hear more.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I would respond, you would respond, Okay, I

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Speaker 3: like that. All right, So before I let you go,

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Speaker 3: where can everybody find you?

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Speaker 1: I am most stax birdies on every single platform.

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Speaker 3: I like that, Marian, Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 3: the party. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: I had a great time. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Party with Tasha Allen is an Iheartwoman's

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Speaker 3: sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports Entertainment.

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Speaker 3: our producer. Sound mixing and mastering by Mary Doo. Special

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