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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: A beautiful young nursing student sex assaulted and murdered by

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Speaker 2: an illegal immigrant, A migrant here in the US, of course,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about lacan Riley. Her trial tore apart the

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Speaker 2: local community and her family, causing a reverberation across our

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Speaker 2: country in the last days of bombshell development. I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: This is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us

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Speaker 2: in the last days. Congress passes the lacan Riley Act,

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Speaker 2: requiring undocumented immigrants arrested for theft or violent crimes to

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Speaker 2: be held behind bars pending trial. It was a House

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Speaker 2: of vote by two hundred sixty three to one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty six. Who wouldn't want that? Now the White

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Speaker 2: House signed into law.

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Speaker 1: Why why this bill?

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Speaker 2: Because the purp convicted of murdering Laken had been arrested

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Speaker 2: twice in New York and in Georgia just months before

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Speaker 2: the killing, but in both cases was released ahead of trial.

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Speaker 2: If he had not been released, lacn would be alive today.

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Speaker 2: What happened in Lacin's case, Uga co ed Lacn Riley

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Speaker 2: out for a morning jog. This after murdered Lacoln's mother's

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Speaker 2: frantic text to her just before her daughter's body found brutalized.

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Speaker 1: And what is the text says? Good morning about to

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Speaker 1: know run?

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Speaker 3: Did you agree your daughter and did she in fact

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Speaker 3: call her mother?

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Speaker 4: She did?

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Speaker 2: A stunning verdict in an Athens, Georgia courtroom illegal immigrant

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Speaker 2: migrant worker Jose Ebara guilty and the brutal murder of

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Speaker 2: a gorgeous young Deans student.

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Speaker 1: Lake and Riley with me an all star penalty.

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Speaker 2: To make sense of what we are hearing straight out

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Speaker 2: to Dave mac joining us at the courthouse. You know,

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Speaker 2: Dave mac, as the defense put up a semblance of

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Speaker 2: weren't really trying or Dave, is it a matter of

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Speaker 2: the fact they didn't have that much to work with.

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Speaker 5: I think they didn't have that much to work with, Nancy,

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Speaker 5: and they were trying to point the finger at jose

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Speaker 5: Ivar's brother, Diego in particular, and that was what the

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Speaker 5: whole point of their defense was going to be. Because

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Speaker 5: they didn't have anything else but last minute stuff. They

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Speaker 5: planned to call Diego and their other brother to the

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Speaker 6: Testimony, didn't do it.

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Speaker 5: They actually presented some things to the judge and then

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Speaker 5: decided not to call Joseevara's brothers as part of this case.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I know why, joining me, founder

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Speaker 2: director of Cold Case Research Institute, star of Zone seven podcast,

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Speaker 2: Cheryl McCollum, I think you and I know why Diego

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Speaker 2: Ebarra didn't take the stand.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, he's a known gang member. He is a criminal,

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Speaker 7: and there's nothing he could say that can help his

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Speaker 7: brother unless he got himself into con trouble. Line to the.

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Speaker 2: Court, what a day in an American courtroom, A case

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Speaker 2: that stunned the nation in its brutality comes to a

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Speaker 2: close straight out to Philip Dubay joining us high profile

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Speaker 2: lawyer in the LA County Public Defender's office. Of course,

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Speaker 2: diego Ebarra, which is really where the defense had hung

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Speaker 2: its hat, was not going to come in and jeopardize

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Speaker 2: himself by saying what I did.

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Speaker 1: It Well, a couple of problems.

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Speaker 8: First of all, I believe the prosecution violated due process.

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Speaker 8: They should have never presented that third party culprit defense

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Speaker 8: in its case. In chief, the prosecution has to build

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Speaker 8: its case completely independent of the defense case and by

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Speaker 8: hijacking that defense and building into its case and chief

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Speaker 8: is illegal. And the reason why is that the defense?

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Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I go asleep. Why didn't they call diego

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Speaker 2: Ebara to the stand? Nutshell, we're playing ping pong?

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Speaker 8: Not yes, because they would not immunize him should he

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Speaker 8: say something incriminating.

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Speaker 1: And I believe he means that I did it.

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Speaker 8: No, I mean what if, hypothetically he said something that

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Speaker 8: could be contorted and twisted into a tacit admission. What

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Speaker 8: protection does the young man have. He's already an immigration jeopardy,

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Speaker 8: having to go back to a country where we have

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Speaker 8: no diplomatic relations, going to do anything to compromise his status,

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, Cheryl McCollum, you're not a lawyer,

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Speaker 2: much less a high profile lawyer like Philip Debay, But

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Speaker 2: can you give it to me in a nutshell?

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Speaker 1: There's no way in.

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Speaker 2: H E double l that diego Ebara was going to

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Speaker 2: attempted rape and murder charge bludgeoning a co.

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Speaker 1: Ed dead with a rock. And what was he going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got the wrong guy, I really did it.

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Speaker 7: Zero chance he was ever going to take the stand.

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Speaker 7: Anything that he says can and will be used against them.

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Speaker 7: While he's sitting there, what was he going to say, Yes,

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Speaker 7: she was murdered. He cannot say anything truthfully that can

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Speaker 7: help his brother. His brother is own video falcon being

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Speaker 7: a predator hunting for a victim, his own video walking

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Speaker 7: to the path where he attacked lake and Riley, then

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Speaker 7: his own video discarding bloody clothing that has his DNA

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Speaker 7: and Lakeland together them. His fingerprint is on her cell phone.

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Speaker 7: His brother, Diego could say nothing to help Jove. Nothing.

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Speaker 2: And in one more twist, Cheryl McCollum, if the brother,

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Speaker 2: Diego Ebarro had taken the stand, and there was quite

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Speaker 2: whatever he said, even if he took responsibility, even if

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Speaker 2: he tried to give his brother an alibi, would subject

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Speaker 2: him to perjury charges. Look, he would get He's going

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Speaker 2: to get deported anyway, much less taking the stand and lying. Now,

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Speaker 2: remember this was a bench trial. This has been a

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Speaker 2: a jury. So throughout this entire trial we have seen

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Speaker 2: great deference given to lacln Riley's family. Now this judge,

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Speaker 1: Verdict and sentencing after this. Listen.

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Speaker 9: In shocking testimony, University of Georgia police Sergeant Sophie Rabout

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Speaker 9: recounts the last moments of Lake and Riley's life, breaking

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Speaker 9: down the minutes into a timeline. Preparing for the last

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Speaker 9: jog of her life, Lake and Riley reaches out to

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Speaker 2: Now this testimony regarding the final texts sent by Lacan

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Speaker 10: Listen data collected from the Garmin watch Lake and Riley

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Speaker 10: And another text from her mother at eleven forty seven am,

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: To Scott Iiker joining us founding member of the FBI's

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Speaker 2: Cellular Analysis Survey Team. Scott can be found at PCA

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Speaker 2: Experts dot com. Scott, I know you deal with data.

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Speaker 2: You deal with satellites and raw digital and sell data

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Speaker 2: every day of your life. Amazing that you're a founding

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Speaker 2: member of the FBI Sell Analysis Team Cellular Analysis. How

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Speaker 2: does it feel you have been analyzing the digital facts

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Speaker 2: that we know so far, the data that came forward

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Speaker 2: at trial, but to hear it put in such human terms.

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Speaker 2: For instance, her Garmin watch shows her heart stopped beating

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Speaker 2: at nine twenty eight She's texting her mother trying to

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Speaker 2: reach her mom, trying to call her at nine three.

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Speaker 2: By nine twenty eight, she's dead in twenty five minutes.

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Speaker 2: By nine fifty eight, her mother is sending repeated texts,

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Speaker 2: a foreboding premonition, and it's all proven through sale data analysis.

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Speaker 1: Scott, I agree.

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Speaker 11: This information that you can click from not only the

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Speaker 11: phone and the garment watch really puts it all together.

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Speaker 11: It was fantastic how the cast agent that testified in

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Speaker 11: this case and the officers that downloaded the garment information,

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Speaker 11: they put it all together in this presentation that really

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Speaker 11: did show the judge that this information showed that the

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Speaker 11: defendant's phone and the victim's phone were in the same

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Speaker 11: area at the time of her death, at the time

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Speaker 11: of her heart stopped stopped beating. It's sad, but it's

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Speaker 11: fantastic when we can get this information together at all

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Speaker 11: at once, and.

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Speaker 2: The defense actually brings forward a witness suggesting that it

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Speaker 2: was another trail gooer that could have murdered lacan but

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Speaker 2: the poignant nature of the video you're seeing right now,

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Speaker 2: no doubt, had a huge impact on the judge.

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace in the last days.

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Speaker 2: The Lake and Riley Act approved by the House and

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Speaker 2: passed with bipartisan support the following Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: It requires the Department.

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Speaker 2: Of Homeland Security to detain migrants if they are charged

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Speaker 2: with certain criminal offenses like theft, shotlifting, burglary, assault against

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Speaker 2: law enforcement, or crimes that result in death or serious

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Speaker 2: bodily injury of another person. If the killer had been

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Speaker 2: detained in Lacoln's case, she would be alive today. See

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Speaker 2: doctor Angela Arnold joining us from down psychiatrist in the

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Jurisdiction at Angela Arnold MD dot com. The mother,

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Speaker 2: the whole family sitting in the well watching this trial

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Speaker 2: and they have to see Lacn's final moments and she

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Speaker 1: She was so brutally murdered.

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Speaker 2: And Mom has to remember those moments we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: And the judge sees all of this happening, and he

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Speaker 2: her trying to call back those moments where she had

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Speaker 2: no idea Laken was already dead or was in the

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Speaker 2: middle of an attack.

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Speaker 3: Nancy, I am not sure that this is something that

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Speaker 3: the mother will ever be able to recover from. This

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Speaker 3: is a trauma that she has suffered, and anyone who

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Speaker 3: is a mother, I'm sure is feeling the exact same

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Speaker 3: way about this. How unsafe, how unsafe somebody can be

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Speaker 3: just to go out on a run. I feel for

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Speaker 3: that mother from the bottom of my heart. Nancy, It's

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Speaker 3: a tragedy beyond belief.

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Speaker 2: Well another thing, doctor Angie, there is such a thing

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Speaker 2: as survivor guilt. The mom forever chastising herself, saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: what if I had called her and we had gotten

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Speaker 2: in a conversation. What if I had picked that phone

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Speaker 2: Would jose E Borrow have picked somebody else? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I've thought over and over in my mind for years.

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Speaker 2: What if I had kept Keith at the house at

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Speaker 2: would it have made a difference.

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Speaker 1: I think it's so hard on the victims' families.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure, Nancy, like you said, you're still thinking

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Speaker 3: about that, Nancy, how And there's certain.

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Speaker 1: Things we can't control.

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Speaker 3: The mother will think that forever, and yes, she will

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the video, Cheryl, and you and

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's heartbreaking, it really is.

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Speaker 7: It's so heartbreaking, especially sitting in the courtroom with her mama,

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Speaker 7: and I know he was laying in wait. He had

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Speaker 7: he lay in wait until Lakelands came up owning and

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Speaker 7: he brutally attacked her, beating her with a rock.

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Speaker 2: You know, Cheryl, how many times have you and I

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Speaker 2: I've looked at the twins videos throughout, you know, from

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Speaker 7: Shehrrel It was gut wrenching to watch her. And you know, Nancy, again,

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Speaker 7: I think the prosecutor put it so beautifully today that

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Speaker 2: Back to Dave Mack joining us outside the courtroom, Dave

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Speaker 2: mac threw out the state's closing argument as prosecutor Ross

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Speaker 2: she just sobbed, just audibly sobbed. Anyone could hear it,

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Speaker 2: and it would be over my dead body if they

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Speaker 5: He acts like he's in traffic court, Nancy. He doesn't

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Speaker 6: He just is totally not there.

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Speaker 5: And when you actually are laying out the facts of

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Speaker 5: is just basically laying out the map. Here's what happened,

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Speaker 5: here's how we know he did it, and it's all there.

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Speaker 5: There's no way of looking at this any other way.

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Speaker 5: That's why there was a conclusion the way it was.

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Speaker 5: There was nothing else they could come up with in

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Speaker 5: defense they had, Nancy, was well it was his brother,

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Speaker 5: you know, for the prosecution was to say Diego was

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Speaker 2: Seven am and coming text from her.

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Speaker 9: Mother said please call me.

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Speaker 1: I'm worried sick about you.

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Speaker 8: As that text spread, is not her pose of death.

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Speaker 2: Is decombined effects of force, head trauma and asphyxia.

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Speaker 1: What's her manner of the homicide?

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Speaker 2: Oh, blunt force trauma with a rock still covered in

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Speaker 2: Lacan's blood.

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Speaker 1: And heir and asphyxia.

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Speaker 2: You were just hearing doctor Michelle DeMarco, the medical examiner

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Speaker 2: of evidence that weighed into the judge's finding of guilty

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Speaker 2: Jose Ebarra guilty and the murder of this beautiful young

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Speaker 2: heard Prosecutor Ross state that Ibarra was out hunting, hunting

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Speaker 1: And here comes Lake and Wright look at.

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Speaker 2: Him hiding, hiding in the bushes amongst the trees, just waiting.

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Speaker 1: What was going through his mind? Do I know?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: Do I care?

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Speaker 12: No?

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Speaker 2: I don't have to go into the mind of a killer,

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Speaker 2: and would be rapist and figure out what he's thinking.

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Speaker 1: But look at him, look at.

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Speaker 2: Him pacing, waiting for a victim to come by, And

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Speaker 2: she did. But this victim, as Prosecutor ros said, refused

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Speaker 2: to be his rape victim, and she fought tooth and nail,

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Speaker 2: providing the state with valuable and probative evidence. In the charges,

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Speaker 2: we see a assault with intent to rape. The defendant

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Speaker 2: Ebara was indicted. I have the indictment right here in

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Speaker 2: my hand with ten counts. In addition to malice murder

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Speaker 2: charges that means intent to kill is shown, there are

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Speaker 2: commission of a felony. Now, what did the state offer

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Speaker 2: felony murder?

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Speaker 1: Listen, even waste.

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Speaker 4: Stand her pants had been moved to the backside of

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Speaker 2: Joining us at the courthouse, crime online dot COM's investigative

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Speaker 2: reporter Dave mac Dave uh oh, by the way.

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Speaker 1: You were just hearing that from our friends at the

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Speaker 2: That was trial testimony from Special Agency Lucas Bayer, Dave

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Speaker 2: mac Lucas buyer home run home run for the state.

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Speaker 2: Did you hear that testimony you've been in court where

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Speaker 2: he describes how her waistband, the backside of her pants

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Speaker 2: she was left exposed that way. I mean, why else

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Speaker 2: would Ibarra be pull trying to pull her pants off

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Speaker 2: if he wasn't trying to rape her.

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Speaker 6: That was the whole point he was making. Nancy. You know,

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Speaker 6: Lucas Bayer was such a good witness.

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Speaker 5: They even brought him back as the rebundal witness after

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Speaker 5: the defense closing because they were trying to point the

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Speaker 5: arrow at Diego at Ibarra, you know, and it was

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Speaker 5: Lucas Bayer they brought back to the stand. Is that

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Speaker 5: there's no evidence that Diego was anywhere other than in

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Speaker 5: bed sleep.

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Speaker 1: And there is more.

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Speaker 4: Listen, the clothing was pulled up extremely high aboff her breasts,

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Speaker 4: which completely exposed her breasts.

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Speaker 2: In the last days, Congress passing the Lake and Riley

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Speaker 2: their trial, allspurred by.

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Speaker 1: The Lacan Riley murderer.

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Speaker 2: I remember sitting in that courtroom hearing her mother sobbed

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Speaker 2: during testimony, and I'll never forget it, and with good reason.

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Speaker 1: The facts are horrific.

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Speaker 2: We've got an aggravated battery, which is beating her with

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Speaker 2: a rot in the head, but count three to support

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Speaker 2: a felony murder charge. The underlying felony is aggravated assault

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Speaker 2: with intent to rape. And you are hearing GBI special

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Speaker 2: Agent Lucas Bayer laying it out.

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Speaker 1: We got that from our friends at the National Desk.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Cheryl McCollum. Did you hear what he said last?

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Speaker 2: Her clothing was pulled up high up above up to

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Speaker 7: Nancy, three layers of clothing, her jacket, her shirt, her

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Speaker 7: sports bra were all moves above her breast to expose them.

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Speaker 7: Her pants had been pulled down, her underwear had been

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Speaker 7: pulled and torn. And I also want to remind you

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Speaker 7: one of the injuries that Lakelan Riley left on Joseabara

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Speaker 7: didn't get running away. He got that because he was.

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Speaker 1: On top of her. And there's more. Listen to GBI

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Speaker 1: special agent Lucas buyer.

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Speaker 4: The sports braw had been manipulated so that had become

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Speaker 1: Fire on the stand from our friends at the National.

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Speaker 2: Desk, Philip Dubay, high profile lawyer joining us out of

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Speaker 2: LA who has covered the case from the get go. Really,

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Speaker 2: you don't think is there any way with a straight

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Speaker 2: in closing all arguments, the defense attorney argued earlierly this

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Speaker 2: reasonable doubt there. The waistpin of her pants pulled down

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Speaker 2: She's left with her breast and rear end exposed, her

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Speaker 1: Jerked around it was on the outside of her clothing.

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Speaker 8: Wrong place, wrong time. There were hundreds of people on

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Speaker 8: he happened upon the body already dead, and as a

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Speaker 8: fact not the perpetrator, and in the process it was

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Speaker 8: transfer of DNA and the scratches are completely unrelated. The

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Speaker 8: DNA expert could not testify that the cells found under

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Speaker 8: her fingernails were not from transfer. He could have been

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Speaker 2: Well, thank Heaven, the judge did not listen to any

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Speaker 2: gibberish such as that, did you actually say maybe he

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Speaker 1: You mean her underwear, at her sports bra, those things

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about.

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Speaker 8: Whoever actually did it, and he happened upon it after

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Speaker 8: the fact and there was transfer. Look, you don't have

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Speaker 8: I'm not saying he's an angel, but he took advantage

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Speaker 8: it doesn't necessarily prove a homicide, it certainly doesn't prove

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Speaker 8: a felony murder committed during the commission of a stalking.

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Speaker 8: I mean, under Georgia law, stocking is a misdemeanor, So

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Speaker 8: you don't even have anything.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the attempted rape and we're talking about

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Speaker 2: attempted rape, not stalking.

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Speaker 13: Wait, you know what, what did lawyer.

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Speaker 2: I've tried so many trials I can't even count them all.

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Speaker 2: Don't try to confuse the charges. We're not talking about

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Speaker 2: felony being attempted rape.

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Speaker 1: Isn't attempted rape a felony in LA. Of course it is,

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Speaker 1: of course it is. But what I don't know what

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Speaker 1: you're talking about stalking.

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Speaker 8: The allegation was that he was following and lying and

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Speaker 8: wait and hanging out and peeping through windows.

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Speaker 1: It says that's not an allegation.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm arguing here, because I know that he

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Speaker 2: stood there for about an hour.

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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, stalking is not part of this case.

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Speaker 2: That is not an indicted charge. But just to prove

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Speaker 2: Philip Dubay wrong, jump in Cheryl is.

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Speaker 7: He was not killing her. Why would he hang up

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Speaker 7: on now one one and throw the phone? He did

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Speaker 7: that because Lincoln knew she was in danger and when

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Speaker 7: she called now one one, he grabbed the phone, disengaged

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Speaker 7: that call and threw it away from her. Is fingerprint

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Speaker 7: was on the phone with her blood on it.

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Speaker 14: A holla, that's bodycam from the ug A p D

444
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Speaker 14: Sergeant Joshua EPs Hollah Alla.

445
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: Bammas could not wake him up, Cheryl McCollum. The judge

446
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: clearly believed the state's argument that after the murder of

447
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: Lake and Riley, beautiful young dazeless student, Jose Ebara had

448
00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: a great night sleep.

449
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Speaker 1: In fact, the words were, he slept like a baby.

450
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Speaker 1: Did you look at this? They could hardly wake him up.

451
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Speaker 7: He was sound asleep to the point they could hardly

452
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Speaker 7: wake him up. And name the most just horrific part

453
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Speaker 7: of this whole thing is knowing her mama ain't fled

454
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Speaker 7: a full night since her baby was murdered. And this

455
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Speaker 7: man is going to walk out of that house, start

456
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Speaker 7: chatting among his friends and started laughing. And the judge

457
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Speaker 7: didn't miss that either.

458
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Speaker 2: In closing arguments, we heard the defense attorney arguing that

459
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Speaker 2: there were alternate theories as to what happened, one being

460
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Speaker 2: that the brothers Diego Ebar and Jose Ebara mingled co

461
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 2: mingled their clothing in the apartment, and we.

462
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Speaker 1: See that's absolutely true.

463
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Speaker 2: It's a big mess, and that somehow there was a

464
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Speaker 2: transference onto I guess she's trying to say diego Ebarra's close,

465
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Speaker 2: so therefore implicating diego Ebarra.

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Speaker 1: That's what was argued in the defense closing.

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Speaker 13: But listen to more of this bodycam footage.

468
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Speaker 2: We played that for you because there you can hear

469
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Speaker 2: more of the conversation by the uh PD sergeant Joshua

470
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Speaker 2: Epps telling him to come slowly. Uh Ebarra is starting

471
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: to walk further in the house and the officer chastises him.

472
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 2: At that point, Ybarra puts on his shoes and walks

473
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Speaker 2: out to doctor Angela Arnold, I think I need a

474
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Speaker 2: shrink right now.

475
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Speaker 1: For those of you just joining us Ibara guilty.

476
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Speaker 2: The judge had no other choice, and I think a

477
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Speaker 2: jury would have agreed as well, Doctor Angie Arnold, how

478
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Speaker 2: can you, according to the state now proven in a

479
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Speaker 2: court of law, brutally attempt to rape a young girl

480
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Speaker 2: jogging by wait in the woods for her, attack her,

481
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Speaker 2: murder her by bludgeting her with a rock and then

482
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Speaker 2: leaving her dead, bloody, her face is figured and her

483
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Speaker 2: private parts exposed, and then get a good night's.

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Speaker 3: Sleep, Because, Nancy, we are dealing with the severest of

485
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 3: a sociopath here. He has no conscience. Do you notice, however,

486
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Speaker 3: over the course of all of this, we have all

487
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: becomes so attached to Lake and Riley, haven't we. She's

488
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 3: a beautiful girl. She brings out feelings inside of us.

489
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: We all think of our own children when we look

490
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Speaker 3: at this beautiful girl and what happened to her. And

491
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Speaker 3: he sits in the courtroom with no emotion on his face,

492
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 3: because Nancy, he is a sociopath. And you know what

493
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: else that means, Nancy, I wish I could tell the

494
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 3: judge this. He is not capable of rehab. They need

495
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Speaker 3: to put him under the jail and pour some concrete

496
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Speaker 3: on him. There is no possibility of this person ever

497
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Speaker 3: being rehabilitated because there's nothing.

498
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Speaker 1: There's nothing to rehab.

499
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Speaker 3: He doesn't have any empathy, he doesn't feel any remorse.

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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.

501
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: In the last days, a bill signed into law, all

502
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Speaker 2: motivated by the death the murder of a beautiful young

503
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: nursing student, Lake and Riley what went in to.

504
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: That guilty verdict finding.

505
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Speaker 2: You heard Philip debate earlier arguing it could have been

506
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Speaker 2: someone else.

507
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: And I want you to hear this and closing.

508
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: Arguments, the defense actually argued to the judge with a

509
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Speaker 2: straight face that Lake and Riley, the murder victim, should

510
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: have could have outrun jose Ebarra.

511
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: Why why is that relevant?

512
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: Because the defense Caitlin Beck, argued that jose Ebarra was

513
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 2: shorter end quote fatter than brother Diego. So I guess

514
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: she's arguing the killer had to be Diego, the brother

515
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: because he was taller and faster.

516
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: They actually argued that. But back to real evidence.

517
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 12: Listen, a match between the contact slobbings from the jacket

518
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 12: and jose Abara is approximately one hundred trillion times more

519
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 12: probable than a coincidental match to an unrelated person in

520
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 12: the population.

521
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: That from our friends at the National desk.

522
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Speaker 2: You are hearing the GBI Crime Lab analyst Ashley Hinkle, did.

523
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: You hear that dubet one hundred trillion times?

524
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Speaker 8: But you could not eliminate and it is a match.

525
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 8: She could not eliminate transfer Okay, problem, hold on, there

526
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 8: is a match.

527
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 2: I think I think that we can eliminate transfer because

528
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: Dave Mack joining us at the courthouse. Isn't it true

529
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: that video catches jose E Bara throwing that jacket. Not

530
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: Diego the brother, but jose Ebarra throwing that jacket into.

531
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Speaker 1: Up there he is.

532
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 2: That's the same shirt he was wearing one hour earlier, posting.

533
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 6: On Nancy what's happen?

534
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 5: Okay, the video of him throwing the jacket into the dumpster.

535
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Speaker 5: That is what they've used to say Diego is the killer,

536
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 5: because they said that one of the friends that actually

537
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 5: was interviewed by police said she thought it was Diego

538
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 5: throwing the jacket in the dunster.

539
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 6: Now she wasn't one hundred scent.

540
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 5: Sure, but a friend who knew them both much better said, no,

541
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Speaker 5: that's Jose.

542
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Speaker 6: So that's for the defense got. Their whole idea was

543
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 6: from the winds I think Diego throwing the jacket away.

544
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 5: The entire defense strategy came from that one comment from

545
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Speaker 5: somebody who was not even sure.

546
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: Okay, so to believe that, Dave Mack, I mean, I've

547
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: seen I was sitting in court when the state showed

548
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: the photo of jose Ebarra one hour before the murder

549
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: posting selfies wearing that exact shirt. I'd like to see

550
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 2: it because it has very unusual markings.

551
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: There is there. He is in the shirt one hour

552
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 1: later throwing the.

553
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: Jacket with a one hundred trillion likelihood DNA match.

554
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: So I don't know what Dube is talking about.

555
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: Transfer And listen about the fingernail clippings.

556
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 12: The DNA match between the wet rush swabbings from the

557
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 12: fingernail clippings from the right hand and the match was

558
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 12: to Jose Antonio.

559
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: Abara still Ashley Hinkle on the stand from our friends

560
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 2: at the National desk.

561
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: And there's more on the fingernail DNA match.

562
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Speaker 12: The match is ten billion times more probable than a

563
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 12: coincidental match to an unrelated person in the population.

564
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Philip Dubay, ten billion likelihood, one hundred trillion likelihood.

565
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 2: There's no chance of the transfer because you just saw

566
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: Jose Ebarra throwing that jacket into the trash minutes after

567
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: Laken is killed.

568
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Speaker 1: So when's the transfer.

569
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Speaker 8: There's a difference between consciousness of guilt and throwing that

570
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 8: away and consciousness of fear. He obviously realized that there

571
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 8: was some type of zerological evidence on the jacket and

572
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 8: dumped it out of fear of being accused.

573
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: So he dumped it.

574
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Speaker 8: I mean, that's how I would have attacked it. It

575
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 8: doesn't necessarily mean just because biological evidence is on your

576
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 8: clothing that you're the culprit. We've seen this in history.

577
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 8: We saw it a few months ago out of the

578
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 8: Detroit murder where a well known Jewish community advocate was

579
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,720
Speaker 8: murdered by knife in front of her home. The defendant

580
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 8: was caught on video outside of her home. He testified

581
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Speaker 8: he was acquitted. He said he touched her as an

582
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Speaker 8: afterthought to try to rifle through her belonging to see

583
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 8: what was happening. The jury believed him in this case,

584
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 8: the judge would not have believed him.

585
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: Speaking on fantastical arguments. The defense also argued.

586
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Speaker 2: That Jose Ebara was just an accomplice, that maybe two

587
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 2: men were involved in Lacln's murder and two rocks that

588
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: makes it so easy for the judge to find abora

589
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Speaker 2: guilty Joining me right now. A special guest, renowned medical

590
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: examiner doctor Kendall Crown's chief medical examiner, Terrence County, esteemed

591
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: lecturer at the Burnett School of Medicine, at TCU Dodger

592
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 2: Kendl Crowns. You and I have gone over and over

593
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: the autopsy evidence in this case.

594
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: Could you describe what happened to Laken?

595
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 15: Certainly so, she has blunt trauma to the head from

596
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 15: the rock that set the scene with the blood on it,

597
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 15: that has caused lacerations or kind of splitting of the

598
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 15: skin in a depressed skull fracture, which is kind of

599
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 15: pushing in of the skull itself from being struck over

600
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 15: and over and over with the rock. She also has

601
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Speaker 15: what they've described as a sixia. The medical examiner said

602
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 15: she had signs of a sixia at the auto That

603
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 15: can be particular hemorrhages of the eye, which are a

604
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 15: little bursting of the capillaries on your eye. It can

605
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 15: also be hemorrhages and the knuck musculature from a manual strangulation.

606
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 15: So probably she's strangled, wakes back up, annocks and then

607
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 15: beats her head in with a rock, or he hits

608
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 15: her with a rock, she passes out, he's trying to

609
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 15: rape her what she wakes back up and then he

610
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 15: strangles her. Either way, it's pretty bad.

611
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: Now. I always wondering Dubey we'll have a big fit

612
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: over this based on what doctor Kendall Crown's has just

613
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: told us, what Lincoln went through as she fought for

614
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: her life. Why the defendant didn't take the stand and testify.

615
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: Hey, if you're not guilty, where were you? What were

616
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: you doing? Listen? Sure do you want to testify?

617
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: And if you go no sense, I guess he didn't.

618
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 2: That's from our friends at the National Desk, Cheryl McCollum.

619
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: You just heard what doctor Kendall Craw's explained happened to

620
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Speaker 2: Lakan and her fight to live, How she was humiliated, attacked, brutalized,

621
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Speaker 2: her face disfigured. Did you really think Ebarra was going

622
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: to take the stand?

623
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Speaker 7: Not a shot? And I'll tell you something. We can

624
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 7: talk about her injuries, and those are vital. To understand

625
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 7: that the injuries that she gave to him, to me,

626
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 7: are just as vital. She punched him dead in the mouth.

627
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 7: She scratched him on the wrist, on the throat, on

628
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 7: the back of the neck, on his back, on his elbow.

629
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Speaker 1: On his arm.

630
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Speaker 7: She fought for those eighteen minutes like her life depended

631
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Speaker 7: on it, because she knew it did.

632
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Speaker 16: One of the defense's first witnesses is a neighbor of

633
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Speaker 16: the e Barras. The woman says Diego Ebarra approached her

634
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 16: the evening of February twenty second, asking the complex is

635
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 16: crawling with cops in broken Spanish.

636
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: The woman tells him.

637
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Speaker 16: A young lady lost her life behind the complex. Aware

638
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 16: that it's along Diego's path to work, she encourages him

639
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 16: to speak up if he saw anything suspicious. Two officers

640
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 16: briefly check in on Ibarra.

641
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Speaker 1: And the woman. When they walk away.

642
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 16: The woman says, Diego Ebarra urgently type something into the

643
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 16: translator app for her to read.

644
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: The defense, trying to shift blame on Jose Ibarra's brother, Diego.

645
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: It didn't work. Straight back out to doctor Kendall Crowns

646
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: joining us. We're now medical examiner out of Terrant County.

647
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Speaker 2: Doctor Kendall Crowns, we know that lake and fought that

648
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Speaker 2: she fought for her life. She refused to be JOSEI

649
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: Ebara's next rape victim. How long would she have lived

650
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: sustaining the injuries she did to her skull?

651
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Speaker 15: So the injuries to the skull with the depressed cull fracture,

652
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Speaker 15: she could have survived that had a concussion, she could

653
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Speaker 15: have potentially, depending on how much brain damage there was,

654
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Speaker 15: been still able to survive that injury. If it was

655
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Speaker 15: severe enough, she probably could have died within minutes of

656
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 15: receiving it. It all depends on how much damage the

657
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Speaker 15: skull fracture went through into her brain. The strangulation, on

658
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Speaker 15: the other hand, she'd probably be on unconscious when a

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00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 15: little over ten to twenty seconds, and if he continued

660
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Speaker 15: to apply pressure, she'd be dead within about four to

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Speaker 15: five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, it's beyond understanding for me that the defense

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Speaker 1: actually argued maybe there were two assailants in two rocks.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, Nancy. The injuries to his wrist and

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Speaker 7: his elbow says to me, she probably knocked the first

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Speaker 7: lock out of his hand and he simply grabbed a

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Speaker 7: second one and finished the job. To the point of

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Speaker 7: her skull was in her brain. He beat her, He

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Speaker 7: beat her violently. He set out that morning to find

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Speaker 7: a victim. He did not care who.

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Speaker 2: In my mind, the judge had no alternative other than

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Speaker 2: finding Ebara guilty in the murder of lacoln Riley. Yes,

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Speaker 2: a verdict has been rendered He's not the only one

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Speaker 2: senticed in this case. Her mother, her family are sentenced

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Speaker 2: to life without Lacoln. Their sentence to life remembering what

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Speaker 2: she suffered. They are sentenced to life remembering those last

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Speaker 2: images of her running free.

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Speaker 1: Lacoln. Riley rest in peace. Good night.

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