WEBVTT - Ep. 12: Dancing with Demonic Maggots 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:05.240 We spent weeks making our own or Gasmo and showed 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:07.200 the boy outfits. It was like one of those situations 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.680 where I was like, you know, common sense to tell you, like, 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.400 you don't put water on the inside of what you're 0:00:12.400 --> 0:00:15.400 trying to keep out, you know what I mean. And 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.160 then as they say you have to al mauny bang 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:18.560 the left at the canal and you go all the 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:22.280 way to Buffalo. It's orange, black, furry and wiggly, kind 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:29.880 of like a demonic mega. Good morning, degenerate Anglers, and 0:00:29.920 --> 0:00:32.800 welcome to Bent, the podcast that hands out full size 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:36.559 muskie plugs on Halloween, not tin split shot like your 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:41.080 cheap bass neighbor. I'm Joe Surmelli, Miles Nulty, and one 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.360 of us is really excited about it being Halloween tomorrow. 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.280 Damn right, I am. I did Halloween, And to be 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.240 really honest, man, like, beyond it being so fun because 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.640 I now have kids that are the perfect age to 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:56.760 get really jacked up on Halloween, I'm not even really 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.040 sure why I love it so much, but I guess 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.560 it's it's somehow I was thinking about, like like the 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.120 punk metal holiday for some reason, and I don't know, 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:08.040 and I'm also kind of in horror flicks. But um, 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.399 as I think we're gonna learn today, Halloween does nothing 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:14.520 for you. If I'm not mistaken, No, I'm I'm not 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.800 a huge fan. You know. The final nail in my 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:23.240 hatred for Halloween coffin came mid twenties, late twenties something 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.840 like that. After after losing a costume contest, right, so, 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.039 a buddy of mine and I we spent weeks. We 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.240 had this great idea and we spent weeks making our 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:40.240 own or Gasmo and showed the boy outfits like, yeah, 0:01:40.280 --> 0:01:42.520 I was Orgasmo, he was Chow the boy. And for 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:44.560 those of you who don't know what I'm referring to, 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.480 you need to go watch the movie or Gasmo right now. 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.840 Just do it anyway, not with not with the child, no, 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:55.640 no children at all. Definitely adults only. Uh. But like, 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:58.200 those costumes were on point, and we worked our butts 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.480 off and then we go to like the big costume 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:03.760 contest at one of the bars out here, and we 0:02:03.800 --> 0:02:07.760 took second place to a group of ladies dressed as 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.240 scantily clad sheep. And that was it for me. I 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.880 was done. I'm done with this whole holiday, Like I 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.560 tried once and what didn't work. I like how you 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:22.519 said scantily clad sheep because I know even creative. Oh man, 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:27.240 you are bitter, so bitter. That's a shame. Ah Man, 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.800 you know it's not bitter Black Rifle Coffee and quick 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:34.400 reminder that Ben is fueled by Black Rifle coffee. In fact, 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:36.639 we've got so much of it that if you trick 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.320 or treat at my house, I might stick a few 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.360 of their instant coffee bags in your plastic punking or 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:43.360 give a shot of their extra dark murdered out to 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:49.600 your kids, just to make bedtime more difficult. Oh, I 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.760 feel sorry for anybody trick or treat at Joe's house. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.880 Do yourself a favor and head over to Black Rifle 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:59.200 Coffee dot com slash meat Eater, get on their subscription service, 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.280 or or are just a few bags of their premium 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.480 roasts and enter the promo code meat Eater to get 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.320 off your order. Yeah, do all those things. It's like 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.280 candy for grown ups. Man, I gotta tell you, And 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.919 I also gotta tell you. Over the last few weeks, 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.840 we've gotten quite a few notes from you guys asking 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.440 if we plan to do a Halloween special and the 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:23.200 answer is yes, sort of. I'd say we've at least, 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:26.040 you know, rubbed enough candy corn behind our ears to 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.400 give this episode a Halloween essence at least is how 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.200 I'd put it. And for the record, I was skeptical, 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:37.240 right I was. I was, But then Joe got ahold 0:03:37.360 --> 0:03:41.600 of some historical gems that completely changed my mind. We 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.680 cannot actually tell you how we came to be in 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:46.800 possession of these clips, but it turns out that in 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:52.280 the eighties and nineties, Bill Dance actually tried moonlighting as 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:57.080 a horror film actor, and he got surprisingly far. Unfortunately, 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.640 all of Bill's test reads ended up on the cut 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.160 of Room Lord. But as you may have already guessed, 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:06.440 we got exclusive permission to air them right here for you. 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.160 Yes we do, and we're gonna be peppering those throughout 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.119 the show. Okay, and remember you heard it here first. 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.680 And if you're shaking your head in complete disbelief right now, 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:19.440 believe it. Believe it's real. Believe it. And here's Bill 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:26.520 reading for the two classic Poltergeist. How are you this morning? 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:34.680 M doing? Okay? What do you girl? More purple and brown? 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:40.479 Kind of a purple loot? Keep that bite in one spot. 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:44.599 What do you look for in a good bite cash 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:51.680 and rod when you're on a fixed income. So let's 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:55.320 seems like Bill is a little limited in his in 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:59.920 his range. Um. Anyway, that's one of many exclusive bill 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.159 It's horror flick reads to come. But let's move on 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:08.000 to a very very special regional report. Yeah it is. 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:12.520 We actually have a celebrity on the show today, for real, 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:16.839 this time, not like the other celebrities we have on 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:21.360 this show. Right after we first launched Bent, we got 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.440 a note from Mike Williams, who started in the little 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:29.040 cult classic movie you might remember, The Blair Witch Project. Yeah, 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.200 and this is this is a true story. We're not 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.760 bullshit and we're not making this up for Mike. Yeah 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:37.520 for once, maybe never again, but believe us. Now, Okay, 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:41.440 Mike is is the guy standing in the corner of 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.920 the basement at the end of the movie. That is 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:47.279 what that That scene still creeps me out. That was 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.080 that was well done. Anyway. Turns up, Mike lives in 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.000 New York State and he's a hardcore fly angler. He 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.160 sent an email to Bent at the meat Eator dot 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.760 com just to say he was digging our show and 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:04.000 offering to help out. We noodled on that for weeks 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:06.680 and came up with nothing. We're like, how are we 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.520 gonna work this into the show. And we were talking 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:12.440 about it with our buddy and colleague Sam Londren, who 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.719 threw out this great idea, and we're like, yes, that's it, 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.800 We're doing that. So so what we did was we 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.360 asked Mike to list and explain his five favorite trout 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:28.320 flies for his local streams. Easy, right, very easy. But 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.159 because we're complete dicks, we said, you have to record 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.960 this information while running through the woods in the pitch 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:37.720 dark allah blair Witch and I was like, there's no way, 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:39.200 Mike st I told you guys. It was like, there's 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:43.400 no way Mike's going. But he was in. He was 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.680 all about it. So here's Mike Williams from the blair 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:51.400 Witch Project giving you his five top trout flies while 0:06:51.480 --> 0:07:00.960 legitimately running through the woods at night. Take eyes all right? 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:06.000 So for the Croton Riverous System, Hounded Golden top five flies, 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:11.600 Croton's up for your Putton Valley buppa Westchester. So I 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:14.160 wanted to start with a Cadis said, Cadis, you can't 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.480 go wrong with it. Any time year Brown, Cadis Page 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.400 cats green, Catos Bray. I don't care, but you gotta 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:26.720 carry catos not Also, oh god, David's right anyway, a 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:31.040 sulfur gotta have a sulfur, A merchant for summer, Cassie 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:35.560 June's why, definitely a sulfur us on top of that. 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:39.920 I would do right, I would do a light Oh. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:44.720 I like Hey Hill, Ok, I like Hey Hill during 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:47.360 the summer. To the fish here, I love that. And 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.640 of course hairs here in the Pheasant Hill. You don't 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:56.320 carry that. You don't carry that, damn it. Well, then 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:58.880 you don't know what you're doing and you're gonna apply Fisherman. 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:10.640 I hope this helps tight lines. Gotta oh man, Mike, 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.920 We thank you for that. Man. You were such a 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.679 good sport. Thanks for reaching out. And you guys should 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:21.280 follow Mike on the instagrams. He's at sipping rises. Thank you, Mike, 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.120 And we're sorry, but but not really because that was funny. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:29.720 Moving on, it's time to continue the theme of making 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.000 people uncomfortable, this time with our smooth move segment where 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:36.640 we let guides and Charter Captain's bitch about stupid things 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.480 their clients have done. Yeah, and we're gonna throw it 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:42.000 back to what I call the upper d session. A 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.280 few months ago and I spent a few days at 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.559 the Guide Shack and the Cat Skills with some good friends, 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.600 including our amigo Marty Ye, who has a story for 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.320 us today, so frightening. It's guaranteed to make you lose 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:55.199 control of all your bodily functions. But before we kick 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.959 it over to Marty, just to set the mood, here's 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:04.240 Bill Dance in the Exorcist twitch Twitch Twitch Twitch Twitch 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:17.520 polishitch Twitch. Why all right, we've got an on location 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.520 smooth Moves. I am sitting in one of my favorite places, 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:23.440 the official guide check of Cross Current Guide service on 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:27.360 the Upper Delaware River on the p a New York 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:29.640 boarder sitting here with our good friend and guide Marty Y. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.400 Hi Marty, how are you? I'm great? How are you? 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.880 I'm terrific. It's good to see you in person. In person, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.440 I feel like our relationship is more digitally, very digital. 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:43.000 It's very text based, text based relationship. But here we are, 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:46.079 we're hanging out and doing some fishing, So why not 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:49.480 record a smooth moves with you? How how long have 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.559 you been a guide Marty remind me, So I'm relatively 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.320 new in that sense. This is my fourth year. I'm 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:57.400 on my fourth season. Okay, but four years is enough 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.559 time to see some ridiculous shit. Oh yeah, I mean 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.440 for the amount of days that that we're out, it's yeah, 0:10:03.440 --> 0:10:05.400 we see a lot of people, a lot of situations, 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:07.360 a lot of weird things. You guys get a lot 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.760 of New York City clientele and stuff. You pull people 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.600 from all over the place, all over So hit me, man, 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:15.760 what's the one that sticks out in your mind that's 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:18.920 like that. I just don't believe that ship just happened. Yeah. 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:23.120 So this was actually my first year. I was very new, 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:27.080 like very green cherry and maybe when have been like 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.199 my one of my first trips really, and I think 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:32.560 about it. So this guy, the real nice guy comes up. 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:37.240 He's from somewhere downstate and uh, he's somewhat new to 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.400 fly fishing. He's trying to get back into it. So 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.439 we we talk and he's like, you know, I need 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.280 I don't have waiters, I don't have geared. That's fine. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.440 I'm like I got everything. What size are you? How perfect? 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:51.280 I got my old backup pair you can wear so 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.040 it's fine. Everything is great. We meet up, we're out 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.120 on the water. We actually have a pretty decent day, 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:59.240 like for you know, for my first year guiding considered 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.040 and and he's not a great you know at the time, 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.480 wasn't a grading um. But you know, we we schooled. 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.400 I schooled him up. We got on some fish and 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:09.240 then you know, throughout the day, I always check with people. 0:11:09.800 --> 0:11:11.200 It's like, hey, do you need to take a leak? 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.840 Do you want to step out? Stretch your legs? So 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.400 I realized we're like an hour like six of the 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.360 day and the guy hasn't taken a piss once. And 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.520 I'm like, okay, I can I can do that. Yeah, 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:23.920 you know, it was a little bit older in Asian 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.560 and I take that into consideration. So I'm like, dude, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:28.439 you know, do you want me to pull over? Do 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.320 you want to like take a league? He's like no. 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.280 Throughout the days like I'm good. I'm like, okay, go 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.480 out the day, stick a couple more fish, you know, 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:39.520 eat lunch, hanging out. Finally again back to like our 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:40.959 six seven, I'm like, all right, so you need to 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:42.760 piss because I'm gonna get out and piss. And he's 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.840 like I've been pissing, and I laughed. I was like, 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.200 I was like, ha ha ha, and he was like, no, 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:51.480 I've been pissing in the waiters and I was like, 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.800 excuse me. He's like, oh, is it not like a 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:58.000 wet suit. I'm like absolutely, And you know, these are 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:03.240 my old foots. They were They were boot foot actually, 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:07.280 so he was just filling his boots and he he 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:08.960 thought it was like a wet so he thought like, well, 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:10.400 I don't know, maybe it's a wet suit or dry 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.200 suit either one. You're not supposed to pee in wet 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:13.880 suits either. I don't know. I don't I'm not I 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.760 don't dive or anything. But it turns out he just like, 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:18.960 I'm sure he went a bunch of times and then 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.880 he felt he felt so bad. But you know, it 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.640 was like one of those situations where I was like, 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.920 you know, common sense will tell you, like you don't 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:28.520 put water on the inside of what you're trying to 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.360 keep out, like you know what I mean. Yeah, So 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.680 it turns out the guy ends up buying those waiters 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:39.200 he acquired that. Yeah, that's one of many stories I've 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.280 had in the last couple of years. Dude, that's so 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.600 gross gross, How uncomfortable is that to fish all day 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.760 and you're just pissing. Sure, you've had water in your 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.800 waiters exactly, like just getting water down your waiters. I know, 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:54.720 like when I have a leak in my winters. Instantly 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.199 I'm like, there's there's a leak in my winters, and 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.160 I'm like, I don't want these anymore waters. Immediately, this 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:03.160 guy just didn't give a ship. He's just pissing. Essentially, 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:05.160 he was pissing his pants too, because he remember, he 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.240 was still wearing like I don't know whatever pants like 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.480 shorts or jeans, whatever he was wearing underneath, So he 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:13.560 was still urinating, like in his underwear and pants as 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:20.240 well as inside of my backup waiters. You know what, 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.880 all right, people are gonna be all over this guy, 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.040 like I can, I can, I'm already here. Or imagine 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.120 the feedback we're gonna get. People can be like, what 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.720 could have dumbhass pisces and waiters. Uh, I can see 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:35.680 how this might happen, all right. For for folks who 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:39.120 know wet suits, you're supposed to piss in them. That's 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:40.839 part of the deal. That's what you do. Wait. Wait, 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.120 weights wait, are you, Yes, you weren't supposed to piss 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:46.200 in your wets You don't piss in dry suits. You 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.800 do piss in wet suits. Yes. In fact, particularly if 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.880 you're in cold water, pissing and wet suits is like 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:53.760 what you look forward to because it's a little little 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.000 jolt of heat all over your body, right, and and 0:13:57.080 --> 0:13:59.719 so I can imagine someone who's only been in wet 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.480 suit and it's the first time, and waiters might assume 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:06.720 that it's the same. You know, let's call it evacuation protocol, 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:12.080 all right. But that said, how miserable would it be 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:16.319 to marinate in your own urine all day? To me? 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.520 I mean, it's just terrible to me mad. But I'm 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:21.920 also that dude, like I get a drop of barbecue 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:23.880 sauce on my share and I want to change it immediately. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.360 So I couldn't. I couldn't just like fish in piss 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:31.760 filled waiters all day. Just Icky, We're gonna we're gonna 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:34.880 stick with the theme of Ikey, which you know, Halloween 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.560 and Nikki. That's what we got for you. Joe's got 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:41.640 a book for us this week. Yes Joe can read, Yes, 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:46.520 yes he can. It's almost time for freaking philistines, where 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.960 we choose a book like an actual book with printed 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.720 words and everything that we feel is worthy of your 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.360 time and attention. This one fits the Halloween and horror 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:59.840 flick motif. We are entering the world of large pred 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.920 it is, which is apparently something Bill Dance knows all about, 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:07.080 because here he is in The Predator. There's something out 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:12.240 there waiting for us, and it ain't old Man. He's 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:17.480 big as a thorny was, but he's a good one. 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:27.160 He just looked big then in that water. But but 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:31.120 unlike the somewhat racist depiction of the alien in that movie, 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:33.560 the Predator in the book Joe is going to tell 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:37.600 us about was actually real and much bigger and badder 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.880 than anyone could imagine. So listen up and get ready 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.800 to put down your screens and read. You're freaking philistines. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.520 What'sst It's a guy who doesn't care about books or 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:57.000 interesting films and things. I have been obsessed with sharks 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.360 since I was a tiny little kid. When I turned teen, 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.160 I couldn't run to the tattoo polar fast enough to 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.080 get a great white inked on my leg. So it 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:10.000 should be no surprise that Jaws is my all time 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:13.000 favorite movie and in my opinion, the greatest phishing movie 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.720 of all time. But what many people don't realize is 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.840 that Jaws was inspired by a very real reign of 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.600 shark terror that occurred along the Jersey coast in the 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:26.280 summer of nineteen sixteen, and Hooper, played by Richard Dreyfuss, 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:30.440 even references those attacks in Jaws. And while it may 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.520 not be a fishing book per se, anyone who loves 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.560 sharks or Jaws or fishing for nasty predator fish really 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:41.440 needs to read Michael Capozo's Close to Shore. It is 0:16:41.480 --> 0:16:45.120 the most detailed, beautifully written account of the events that 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.440 took place that summer, and it it's it's by far 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:51.640 my favorite work of historical nonfiction. A right Close to 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.920 Shore reads like an adventure novel, and what makes this 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.880 adventure all the more fascinating is the period of time 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.280 in which it's taking place. This is the final summer 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.960 before the US entered World War One. Vacationing at the 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:09.439 beaches was just really growing in popularity. Because train lines 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.119 could carry folks from New York and Philadelphia to the 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.160 coast pretty quickly, it was easier to get there, and 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.919 just as it is now in modern times, the beach 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:23.320 was a safe, happy, care free environment, which makes the 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:28.359 juxtaposition of these brutal attacks much starker. The first victim, 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.800 twenty year old Charles van Zante, was attacked on July one, 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:36.480 nineteen sixteen, while his parents watched in sheer horror from 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.359 the beach, and van Zante was swimming with his dog 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.360 in front of the Ingleside Hotel in beach Haven, New Jersey. 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:47.520 And Capuzzo describes the attack in truly blood curdling detail, 0:17:47.680 --> 0:17:50.359 and Charles was actually rescued and made it to the 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.240 beach alive, but the shark had just done a number 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:56.879 on his leg and it severed his femeral artery. You know. 0:17:57.000 --> 0:18:00.200 His father, who was actually a doctor, rushed him to 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:04.160 the hotel office, agonizing because they knew they'd never get 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:07.439 him to the closest hospital, about twenty miles away in time, 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:09.960 so they made a makeshift operating table out of the 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:14.720 office door. But despite their best efforts and with limited supplies, 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:18.960 Charles died of shock and massive hemorrhaging at the hotel. Now, 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.520 the passage that follows charles death really sets the tone 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.920 for the rest of the book, and you can see 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:28.120 just how closely it mirrors the plot line of Jaws. 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.600 That evening, a hush fell over the Angleside dining room, 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:36.639 But after dinner hotel guest cornered fisherman and bayman and 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:39.480 other wise and veterans of the shore, who drifted on 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:43.040 and off the veranda all night long. The red trails 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.679 of pipes and cigars waved in the night, and the 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.119 number of people who had witnessed the attacks seemed to 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.360 grow by the hour. Robert Angle tried to remain stoic 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:55.000 and calm as reporters from Philadelphia newspapers scuttled about the 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:59.920 lobby and veranda, questioning his guests. Disagreements and arguments broke out, 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.919 until finally a consensus emerged of suspects in young van 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:08.280 Zandt's death. A giant tuna, a shark, but most likely 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.280 a giant sea turtle, which had the power the fisherman 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:14.600 said to snap a man in half. The attending physician 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.040 had a different opinion. He recorded the primary cause of 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.520 death on van Zandt's death certificate as hemorrhage from femoral 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.840 artery left side, with the contributory cause being bitten by 0:19:25.840 --> 0:19:28.760 a shark while bathing. It was the first time a 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:31.640 shark bite had appeared as an official cause of death 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.720 in U s history. Seeking to reassure his guests, Angle 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.119 stood and declared bathers had nothing to worry about. The 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:41.679 Next morning, the hotel would erect a netting around the 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:45.240 beach strong enough to block German U boats swimming in 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:49.719 the clear paradisal waters of Angleside would go on as usual, 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.160 but a somber mood pervaded the Ingleside that evening, as 0:19:53.200 --> 0:19:55.879 one by one the hundreds of room lights that cast 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.080 out over the shore winked out. A new and nameless 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:02.480 fear had seized the guests, a fear the unknown as 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.120 well as a fear of the sea. Even those who 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:08.120 watched the attack had little notion of what they had witnessed, 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:12.560 except to agree, as W. K. Barkley told whoever would listen, Mr. 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.960 Van Zandt's death was the most horrible thing I ever saw. 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.960 That scene sets the tone for the entire rest of 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.800 the book, and of course, more attacks followed after van Zandt, 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:27.320 which set off a media frenzy and hysteria that ultimately 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:31.320 led to Shark Hunt's coastwide, with everything from rifles to 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:35.679 nets to dynamite, debating hooks with cow lungs, and interestingly, 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:37.280 and while I don't want to give too much of 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.399 the ending away, the culprit remains a mystery and is 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.439 still debated to this day. Was it a white shark 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:45.879 or was it a bull shark? And Capuozo does a 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.560 terrific job of breaking down all sides of the argument 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.320 towards the end of the story. But the most important 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:54.800 takeaway from Close to Shore is that without these attacks 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:59.000 from nineteen sixt there probably would have been no jaws. 0:20:59.280 --> 0:21:04.520 These events single handedly created the mindset that sharks are 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:08.040 vicious killers that need to be feared, which sadly still 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:12.680 persists today with many people, despite time and science debunking 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:20.159 the idea that sharks are ferocious man hunters. Now that 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.800 your blood is fully curdled, let's shift from a history 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:28.520 lesson to current events, it's time for fish news. Fish 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:35.720 news that escalated quickly, so here we go. This is 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:37.399 the part of the show where we fill you guys 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.080 in on the most pertinent fish or fishing related news 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:42.320 we think you good people need to know about, or 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:44.760 in some cases we just give you whatever we could 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:49.160 find this week that somehow loosely connects to the overriding 0:21:49.200 --> 0:21:52.320 theme of fishing that we try to maintain. Uh as 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.840 a reminder, this is a competition. At the end of 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:59.240 news are tremendously talented and rather good looking audio engineer 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:02.840 Phil will Claire and News winner. And I gotta say, like, 0:22:02.880 --> 0:22:05.040 we don't we don't take this lightly, you know what 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.840 I mean. I'm scared like this. It's it's every week. 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:11.000 It's like stepping into a cage match. And while while 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:14.080 I may be heavier, Miles is faster and more nimble, 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:17.320 and Phil has great hair. Let me just point that out. 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:23.480 But you know, this takes bravery people, similar i'd imagine 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.760 to the bravery that Bill Dance had to muster when 0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:29.800 he encountered Jason Vorhees for the first time in Friday thirteenth, 0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:32.200 Part eight, Jason takes Manhattan. And do we have a 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:34.919 clip of that lined up? Phil? I believe we do. 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:43.720 Here's what that sounded like. What you gonna do? Huh, 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:55.679 she's gonna do? Huh show off a little So I 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:59.240 think I think I think Miles is about to show 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:03.240 off a little bit. How do you because because how 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:07.080 do you follow up Bill dance doing that? I don't know, 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:12.639 but you're the leadoff man thrust to the shoulder, So 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:18.440 you got I got, I got every center here. Huh. 0:23:18.480 --> 0:23:22.960 So Okay, despite my admitted disdain for Halloween, I'm leading 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:24.520 off with kind of a little like a sort of 0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:28.560 spooky story. Start off fish news this week, all right. 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:35.040