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Now it's time to hear from my man, 33 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: ras Sean McDonald money Making Conversations Here we come. Welcome 34 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations. I am your host, Rashean McDonald. 35 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: I say this every episode. It's really time to stop 36 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and what do I say, 37 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: start writing your own. And I always tell people talk 38 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: about passion, they talk about gifts. If you have gifts, 39 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: lead with them and don't let your age, friends, family, 40 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: or coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams. 41 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: The interviews I do own Money Making Conversations can be 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: if you're consumer you could use them, or your business 43 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: owner you can use them. For the all weak person. 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: You can use them because I give your access to celebrities, CEOs, 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and people I like to call industry decision makers. 46 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: It's about their secrets. I asked them to share their 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: journey on my show, and if you get some wisdom 48 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: out of that journey, there has been a blessing. And 49 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: the blessing is I'm able to deliver this show every 50 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: week and it's called Money Making Conversations. My next guest 51 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: is a longtime friend. Her name is Nicki Walton. Nick 52 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: is the best selling and nuble A CP Award winning 53 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: nominated author, TV personality for the podcast, host which we 54 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: will talk about in detail, licensed psychotherapists which we'll talk 55 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: about in detail. In two thousand and eight, Walton launched 56 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: curly Nikki dot com, which became the number one natural 57 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: hair care blog site in the world, reaching millions of 58 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: women in over thirty countries and influencing the marketing and 59 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: formulation of products for major beauty brands. In one Walton 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: launched Nikki That Is Good Mornings with Curly Nikki, a 61 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: daily morning show to help listeners find peace and chaos 62 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: and light and darkness. It debates in the Top five 63 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: and spirituality on Apple Podcasts. Nikki Walton is dedicated to 64 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: helping people find freedom through their natural hair, healthier lifestyle choices, 65 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: and ultimately through their spiritual enlightenment. Please work with the 66 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: money making conversation. It's been too long, which fouling. She 67 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: has arrived. Nikki Walton, Thank you, thank you, so honored 68 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: to be here. You have a powerful, powerful platform. I 69 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: absolutely appreciate everything you do to keep us all inspired, 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: push for greater, like it up, always level it up. Well, 71 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, I thank you, thank you. You know, we've 72 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: we've known that on each other for a long time. 73 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, when Steve and I was at HarperCollins and 74 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: who was introduced when your first book came out and 75 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: uh and and I want to start there. I want 76 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: to start there because of the natural hair care boom, 77 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: which I like to believe you were in front of, 78 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: and now it seems to be. You know, we've seen lawsuits, 79 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: we've seen uh, we've seen corporate structures change, we've seen 80 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: the military service change their standards. With that being said, 81 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: let's talk about that journey that started, and it started 82 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: before two thousand and eight, but then you launch your 83 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: site curly Nikki dot com and two thousand and eight. So, 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: but a lot of people question your journey, your decision 85 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: and said, hey, what's wrong with straight hair? You never 86 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: said it was anything wrong with straight hair or processed 87 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 1: hair or permed hair. It just say why can't I 88 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: do it naturally correct exact, Let's get some healthy options 89 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: and versatility. I've never been anti straight hair, or anti weed, 90 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: or even anti relaxing. I just wanted to show women 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: that they had the option to embrace and work with 92 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: their texture, which can truly improve your quality of life. 93 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up being afraid to get in 94 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: a swimming pool. I grew up being afraid to get 95 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: in the drop top car. I grew up being afraid 96 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: to go on vacation without a plan for my hair. 97 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: You know, you can't go to a job interview unless 98 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: you already know, like what I'm gonna do with my hair, 99 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: And when you're trying to figure that out, you're not 100 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: preparing for the interview itself, right, you're not on your 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: A game. So learning how to work with your hair, 102 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: learning and like learning how to appreciate it and feel 103 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: good in your own hair, freeze up some bandwidth to 104 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: be able to actually succeed and focus on the things 105 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 1: that need to So it's like it's it completely changes 106 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: your entire life when your hair isn't the foremost, the 107 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: foremost thought in your mind. Okay, let's listen to you. 108 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: I grew up with six sisters. Because I'm not saying 109 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: them authority on anybody's hair, especially my own. I don't 110 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: even have hair, Okay, so at some point I had it. 111 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: I had it, but I thought I was looking good. 112 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: I still think I'm looking good without it, So were 113 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: picking up at all? I thought I was a baby 114 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson because we was the same age. So Mike 115 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: me going out there and grooving together. When when I 116 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: look at the one exactly because I want to really 117 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: get a clear definition with natural hairts because my mom, 118 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: you know, she would take a curling iron to my 119 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: sister's hair and straighten it out. Okay, now is that 120 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: the natural hair? That are we saying that that's what 121 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: straightening is? No, that is heat style. Natural hair. So 122 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: that's what I grew up with. We weren't allowed to 123 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: get terms or relaxers in my household. That was the 124 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: decision that we were gonna have to make, you know, 125 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: got out of the house. But eat sally. That's blow dryers, 126 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: that's hot curlers, that's pressing combs off, so that's flat iron. 127 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: You can eat sell your natural hair, but if you 128 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: don't do it carefully, and if you do it too much, 129 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: you can end up damaging your your natural hair. And 130 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: actually called it to eminently straightening up to throw that out, 131 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: or to just get dry and break off, which I 132 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: dealt with in college when I started playing with tea 133 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: too much. Right, and now then I'm gonna go to 134 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: my daughter. You know, she was a tennis prodigy, prodigy 135 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: and so you know, wanting to you know, you get 136 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: a process. So it was quick and easy. And I'm 137 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: not using terminology. You're not trying to get anybody mad, not, 138 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm just speaking Roushan point of reference. Okay, my sisters, 139 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: my next point of references my daughter. Okay, and I 140 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: would say that I did the permanent. We have to 141 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: stop because of the fact that it broke all our 142 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: hair out, okay, But we were doing it because it 143 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: was convenient. We were doing it because it lasts a 144 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: certain period of time. I didn't have to be bothered. 145 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: Is that what it is? That is that part of 146 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: the problem of women's subcompanien convenience as major that's all 147 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: of us. But the problem is why why is that 148 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: work convenient? And it's because of the standard society standard 149 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: that's straight hair is better. So it's convenient to get 150 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: a firm instead of h you know, get your hair 151 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: flatir because it's going to actually last longer. I might 152 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: withstand the humidity. If you'll get it wet, you know, 153 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: it'll stay straighter, you know, versus you having it pressed out. 154 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: So it's convenient if you're trying to mimic a certain 155 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: standard of beauty. But it's less convenient, you know, if 156 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: you're actually trying to work with the texture, Like my 157 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: hair doesn't grow. I don't mind scalp straight. You know, 158 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: if I worked with the highly textured coils and waves, 159 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: then it's convenient to do a twist out, you know, 160 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: it's convenient to keep it into it's it's convenient to 161 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: do a curly fun So it's just like we have 162 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: to change the way we think about stuff. On the 163 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,239 Speaker 1: other hand, natural hair is a lot. Our hair is amazing, 164 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: and we are some of us are blessed with great density. 165 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: Like my daughter, her hair comes like it goes to her, 166 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: but that's how long it is. 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S Department 199 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: of Health, that Human Services Administration for Children and Families, 200 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: and the ACT Council. And we're live here outside the 201 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: Perez family home, just waiting for them, and there they go, 202 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: almost on time. This morning, Mom is coming out the 203 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: front door, strong with a double arm kid carry. Looks 204 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: like dad has the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh, 205 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: but the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. 206 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: But mom has just nailed the perfect car seat buckle 207 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: for the toddler. And now the eldest daughter, who looks 208 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: to be about nine or ten, has secured herself in 209 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: the booster seat. Dead zips the bad clothes and they're off. 210 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: But looks like Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is 211 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: still on the roof of the car and there it goes. Oh, 212 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: that's a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't 213 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: sweat the small stuff. Just nailed the big stuff, like 214 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: making sure your kids are buckled correctly in the right 215 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: seat for their agent's eyes. Learn more n h t 216 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: s A dot gov slash the Right Seat visits n 217 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: h s A dot gov slash the Right Seat brought 218 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: to you by NITZA and the ad Council. Now you 219 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: was he was talking about your hair from nine to 220 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: five and you and you empower her with the knowledge 221 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: that she's beautiful with her natural hair. Now, that empowerment 222 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: leads to a lot of adult conversations that you have 223 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: with women who aren't kids anymore, who may have kids, 224 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: who may have been um pushed in the in the 225 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: wrong direction about what beauty is. Because I always tell 226 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: people this is that what you, what you what do? 227 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,680 Speaker 1: What people think of you can lead you in a 228 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: lot of different directions. If people are saying positive things 229 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: about you, then it can uplift you and motivate you 230 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: to success. If people drop a knowledge that you have 231 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: to look a certain way to appeal to a certain 232 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: lane of success, it also can diminish your success story 233 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: or opportunities because you feel if you're not looking like that, 234 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: how can you be successful exactly? Now, it's very very challenging, 235 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: and you have to find a center within yourself so 236 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: that yes, you received constructive criticisms, but that you're not 237 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: on a roller coaster going up and down with people 238 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: praising you or people putting you down. When I first 239 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: decided to go natural, my family was not for it, 240 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: and that it wasn't coming from a place of um hate, 241 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: It was coming from a place of protection. They wanted 242 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: to see me have the most, you know, opportunities to 243 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: get into the best schools, to get the best jobs. 244 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: And they honestly didn't think, because of the society that 245 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: we live in, that I would have the opportunity to 246 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: do that with my hair and looking like this, you know. 247 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: So they were like, no, no, no, re sacrificed so 248 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: much for you, just just where it's straight, and I couldn't. 249 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: I respect them and I love them, but I knew 250 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: that that advice wasn't something that I could take, you know, 251 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: because I was coming, I was beginning to come into 252 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: my own and into my self love. And I'm like, 253 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: if the world can't accept me how I was born, 254 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: If you know, this job or this school, this university 255 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: can't accept this in this package without it, you know, 256 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: being modified, then I don't need to be there. I'll 257 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: take it somewhere else and succeed there. And thankfully, you know, 258 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: I paved away for myself and other women who look 259 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: like me to be able to stand in rooms and 260 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: stand in the light with their hair the way it 261 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: naturally grows. And if I want to straighten it tomorrow, 262 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: which I do, sometimes, I can do that and I'll 263 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: feel just as pretty that way, but now, thank god, 264 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: I own't. I don't only feel pretty when my hair 265 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: is straight because I went through that, you know, all 266 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: through col it. I only felt pretty when my hair 267 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: was straightened. And that's not healthy because that's not what 268 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 1: it looks like most of the time. You know. It's 269 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: really interesting because when I'm talking to I'm talking to 270 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: Nicki Walton, Um, founder of the Curly Nikki dot com website, 271 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: and I'd like to say, um movement, Let's let's say 272 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: curly Nikki dot com movement, because you know, but you know, 273 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: you have to deal with a lot. Let's let's go 274 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: and break it down when we talk about natural hair, 275 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: because natural hair within our black community, okay, you have 276 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: to deal with that, you know, and then you have 277 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: to each other and you have natural hair within the 278 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: white community, because they really didn't understand what's wrong with 279 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: your hair? While your hair all over the place? Why 280 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: is it so big? You know? So how do were 281 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: you able to because that's what they were worried about, 282 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: you know. You know, as a parent, that's all I 283 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: worry about my daughter. I was just trying to give 284 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: her a better life, a better opportunity to not endure 285 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: the pain and suffering that I endure and if I 286 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: can get her there a lot better with the advice, 287 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: that's all they was doing. But in the process of 288 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: saying who you want to be, that was your community, 289 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: your people telling you know. So now you have your 290 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: community telling you know, and then you know. In the 291 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: real world, like we talked about, the military has changed 292 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: their laws you still read about periodically, or some athletes 293 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: or some student has been forced to change the hair. 294 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: The hair was cut during a wrestling match or sporting event. 295 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: Just cut their hair because it was natural and they 296 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: perceived that it would be a disadvantage for you to 297 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: go out there with natural hair. It would get in 298 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: the way. Now, with all that being said two thousand 299 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: and eight, which were thirteen years ago, it was uglier 300 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: back then. How did you break through the noise? You know, 301 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: I say, it's each individual. So when I would post 302 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: every single day Monday through Friday, three times a day 303 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: on curly Nick, I was reaching obviously millions of people. 304 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: But whenever I'm writing those articles, it's like I'm reaching 305 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: that one person that's on the other side of the screen, 306 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: and I know that she is going to be touched. 307 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: And then she's gonna take it to her real life network, 308 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: her real life She's gonna impact her mother, her sister, 309 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: her best friend, her cousin is they're gonna see her, 310 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, applying the tips and the principles and the 311 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: love from the inside out, you know, and using these 312 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: products and getting great results. And her family, her network 313 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: is gonna see it, and they're gonna be intrigued and 314 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna do it. And that was what happened between 315 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: two Valcandate and like twenty twenty, like everything changed and 316 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: it caught on like wildflower, like wildfire, because people can 317 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: see she's self confident, and it's not just because her 318 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: hair looks good, like something has shifted in her from 319 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: the inside out. And hair leads you into that journey. 320 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: It guides you into that journey, but it's just the 321 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: beginning of that journey. And the outside world, the people 322 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: closest into you, they see that change and they're like, 323 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: I want some of that, and then it just continues 324 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: to spread out. And so with your confident in yourself, 325 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: when you go out into the world, people don't have understanding. 326 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: So when we go into like worms where there's white people, 327 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: if you are firm here. They don't have anything to say. 328 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: They have nothing to say, and if they do, they're 329 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: not saying it to your face. Look for your children's 330 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: eyes to see the true magic of a forest. It's 331 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: a storybook world for them. You look and see a tree, 332 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: They see the wrinkled face of a wizard with arms 333 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: outstretched to the sky. They see treasure and pebbles. They 334 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: see a windy path that could lead to adventure, and 335 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: they see you. They're fearless. Guide. Is this fascinating world? 336 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: Find a forest near you and start exploring and discover 337 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: the forest dot org brought to you by the United 338 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: States Forest Service and the ad Council. Look for your 339 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: children's eyes to see the true magic of a forest. 340 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: It's a storybook world for them. You look and see 341 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: a tree, They see the wrinkled face of a wizard 342 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: with arms outstretched to the sky. They see treasure and pebbles. 343 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: They see a windy path that could lead to adventure, 344 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: and they see you. They're fearless. Guide. Is this fascinating world? 345 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: Find a forest near you and start exploring. I Discover 346 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: the Forest dot org brought to you by the United 347 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: States Forest Service and the AD Council. What grows in 348 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: the forest trees? Sure you know what else grows in 349 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: the forest, Our imagination, our sense of wonder, and our 350 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: family bonds grow too, because when we disconnect from this 351 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: and connect with this, we reconnect with each other. The 352 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: forest is closer than you think. Find a forest near 353 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: you and start exploring. I discover the forest dot Org, 354 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: brought to you by the United States Forest Service and 355 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: the AD Council. Let me just Curly Nicki of the 356 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: Nicki Movement, the Curly Nicki Movement, Nicky Walden. You know, 357 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: I've seen so many pictures. Are you trapped? You know? 358 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 1: And it was always a journey of like trying to 359 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: find yourself in my you know, because I tell everybody 360 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, in twenty sixteen, when I stopped manager Steve Harvey, 361 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: I had to find myself. I didn't even see myself 362 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: as being successful because I didn't have a voice of 363 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 1: what success was. And so I don't find that as 364 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: a negative when I say that, because if you don't 365 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,479 Speaker 1: have to define understanding of who you are, then how 366 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: can you chase success. If you do chase success, it's 367 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: going to be temporary, because confusion is gonna set in 368 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 1: and when the stakes happen that you don't understand how 369 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: to fix then fail, you will become the champion. And 370 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: so those journeys, because this journey is gonna lead to 371 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: your relationships, I'm gonna be talking about which it's going 372 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: to lead into your very popular Good Mornings with Nikki 373 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: currently Nikki Podcasts right now in the top five on 374 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: spirituality on Apple Podcasts. Those journeys. Talk to me about that. Yeah, 375 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: so I could tell in about thirteen after meeting you, 376 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: I had hit the bestseller's list with my book with 377 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: Harper Collins. Very successful, you know, have husband, healthy kids, house, 378 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: been and big diamonds, traveling all over the world, you know, 379 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: doing great nonprofit like organization partnerships for content on crality 380 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 1: dot com, beautiful charmed life, Dr Oz Spots, Steve Harvey Spots, 381 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, hanging out with you out of it, really 382 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: full of life. But I wasn't happy, and I'm like, 383 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: if I can't be happy with all of this stuff, 384 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: and I'm still looking for the next magazine interview, the 385 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: next TV spot, the next this, the next at the 386 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: bigger diamond, the bigger car, Like I'm never gonna be 387 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: happy and I could feel that emptiness, and so I 388 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: knew I needed to continue to seek further. And I 389 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: had already been on a spiritual journey I've been on 390 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: once since I was a kid my parents that I 391 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: started asking questions that like seven, I was raised Catholic, 392 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: and they had no answers for me. And so I 393 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: just decided to start reading again. And I read probably 394 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: six hundred books between two thousand and twelve and two 395 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: thousand eighteen from all the different world religions. Traveled to India, 396 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: try of Spain, traveled to Africa twice, you know, and 397 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: sitting in these different oshrooms and temples and churches, and 398 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: at some point when I was in Jerusalem, I could 399 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: tell I'm like, no matter where i am, this presence 400 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: is this love. There's like an inner excel, an inner peace. 401 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: Like right now, if you can you at home and 402 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: you too are shown just like lower your shoulders a 403 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: little bit and like breathe into your stomach and let 404 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: your stun attention in your stomach go and just kind 405 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: of like come into your body and come into the moment. 406 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: And it's a different way to exist. It's like being home, 407 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: being in church, no matter I'm at charge wherever I am, 408 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: it's like, there's everything is holy. So when I noticed that, 409 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: it didn't matter where I was or who I was with, 410 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, it's always here. This happiness that's natural peace 411 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: is always right here where I am. And that was 412 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: freedom for me. And I started reading more specifically about 413 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 1: enlightenment and what that meant to different cultures and two 414 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 1: different people in different religions, and it all pointed out 415 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: to the same thing. There's a light that we all have. 416 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: Most of us are unaware of it, and so then 417 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: we seek stuff out here, the shining things out here, 418 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: to try to replace that. But if you can just 419 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: find that light within your true purpose and that's and 420 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: all of that unfolds from that light. But you have 421 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: to be aware of that light here or you'll be 422 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: distracted and looking out here in the world. You know, 423 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: it's really interesting because my gift is seeing people for 424 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: who they are what they can be. And you know, 425 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: I've seen you a lot like and we have hung out. 426 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: I remember sometimes to hanging out in the neighborhood awards 427 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: or the hood whatever time about life backstage, and but 428 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: and you know, even in those periods, I saw a 429 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: talented person, but I didn't see a voice. You know 430 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, It's almost like you and this is 431 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: not in it, so you almost like you know, you know, 432 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: you have this crowd of people, and then this person 433 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: trying to get into the crowd. That was who I 434 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: always kind of saw you. And I couldn't really figure 435 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: out why you couldn't be in the crowd, even though 436 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: you had the statue you have. You were beautiful, you 437 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: are articulate, you have a resume, but it almost felt 438 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: like you were trying to look at me, look at me. 439 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: I got something to say, I got to something to say. 440 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: Now I see a much more focused person. There have 441 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: been some changes in your life, but you're more focused 442 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: about you. And I tell people it ought to be 443 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: successful you talk to anybody. A lot of people used 444 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: were selfish in a bad way, but at some point 445 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: in your life to be successful, it has to be 446 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: about you. And if it's never being about you, then 447 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: guess what Confusion sets in? And also frustration sets in. 448 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: And I saw a talented, frustrated person. Why isn't this 449 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: talented frustrated person frustrated anymore? Because I found my message 450 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: and my passion like I said, when you saw me, 451 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: I was definitely in the light and not in this light. 452 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: But I was, like the world mused, I was as 453 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: this figure, this you know, natural hair, public figure. But 454 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: when I would go on TV for that, it didn't 455 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: feel completely I wasn't completely neat, and I didn't know 456 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: who me was, like what that was. And so I 457 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: dug deep. Like from the time the last time I 458 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: saw you, like fourteen until last year, I've been off 459 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: the map. You know this it's been all about like 460 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: you said, it's not you can call it selfish, you know, 461 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: I call it like being selfless. I needed to get 462 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: the Nikki ego out of the way, you know, the 463 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: the part of Nicki that thought she knew where Nikki's 464 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: life was heading and what they needed to do. And 465 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: most of that came from what other people thought Nicky 466 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: should do. You know, almost all of my desires and 467 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 1: once and the goals were coming from society and from 468 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: the people posts to me, and even people just kind 469 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: of on the outside, like in the comments section, like 470 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: you should do this, and you should do this, you 471 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: should launch that, and like you said, you get confused. 472 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: You don't know which wy to turn and So when 473 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: I shut all that out and I went inward and 474 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: found this, I could see very clearly at time, like 475 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: I helped black women find freedom through breathing their natural hair, 476 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: and now I helped myself find like a deeper, more real, 477 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: more full freedom through finding this light that we all have. 478 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: No matter who you are, you can have it. If 479 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: you're sitting in it, you're sitting at it. And now 480 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 1: I want to help people move into that freedom. And 481 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: it's the only button I have, one switch, no matter 482 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: what I'm interviewed about. I was being interviewed by like 483 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: team Vote about hair and skin, and it immediately turned. 484 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: It turned to this. This is the only switch. I 485 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: can talk about it till I'm blue in the face. 486 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm here on this earth at this time to present 487 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: this message of self love and self with a capital s. 488 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: Not just your human let's this presence that's beyond your 489 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: love it love it. Now. I would get phone calls, 490 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, shut you know what, all these women showed up. 491 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 1: They showed up and they're sitting on pillows and they 492 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: want to be speak and relaxing. You know. But but 493 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: that was that journey, you know, you know, maybe the 494 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: last time I saw you, but we've been talking and 495 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: talking that you're talking about it and absolutely and they've 496 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: seen you. Just wanted to go up to New York 497 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: and he was working at some storylines with dr Oz 498 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: TV show What could we do with that? But I 499 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: always felt that in Tracy would go traceys about producer 500 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: for Media Ink, and so she would go and go 501 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: were what we're gonna do? I said, I don't know 502 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: if she knows who she is. I say, I said, 503 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get her, and I would tell 504 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: her the trade to go, you'll get her. No, I 505 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: don't get her, okay, because there has been a certain 506 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: degree of clarity, And now I get you now because 507 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: I understand there's some because sometimes up, yeah, just be honest. 508 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: A lot of times in your life, even though I 509 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: was talking to you, I felt like somebody else was 510 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: talking through you, okay, And now when I'm talking to you, 511 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm talking to the person that's speaking 512 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: the decisions about what you want to be, not because 513 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: it's an opportunity, it's what you want to do, it's 514 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: what I'm here to do. And I took that advice 515 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: you gave me back in ten you're like, you are amazing. 516 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: You will be successful. You have to get clarity. I 517 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: can't help you be successful in spirituality until you make 518 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: some moves in spirituality and to step out there and 519 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: start sharing your message and stop being scared, basically. And 520 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: so I took that medicine and started just kind of 521 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: dipping my toe and you know, and easing in there. 522 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 1: And I've reached back out after I had jumped in 523 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: and found my I found my voice. Come on now, 524 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: good mornings, good Nikki, come on now, natural hair spirituality. 525 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: Found yourself. Been stepped on a little bit emotionally, been 526 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: been ran over, like we're supposed to get run over. 527 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: I've been run over. Okay, into this. It's like when 528 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: you get ran over, when you get beat up a 529 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, like it brings you more clarity. 530 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: And so I'm radically grateful for the lessons, you know, 531 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: in these last ten years to just bring me closer 532 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: to myself. So leave nothing but this love. So tell 533 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: us about this amazing podcast. It was so fantastic on 534 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: Apple podcast. Now I'm just telling the worst spirituality kind 535 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: of scare some people. She gonna be preaching to me. 536 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, the Bible that well, oh my god, 537 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: I don't even go to church. What is she doing? 538 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: She's Curly NICKI I got straight hand. Can I listen 539 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: to her? I do? I got priv Can I listened 540 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: to her? Tell us about what your good Mornings with 541 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: Curly Nick is all about it? And it's welcome to 542 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: all people. Yes, welcome to everyone. So in twenty in November, 543 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: something different because I wanted to see something different. So 544 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: I started waking up and actually getting out of the 545 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: bed at five o'clock in the morning. And I've done 546 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: that every day since November. I meditate, journal, do my yoga, 547 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: all before the kids got up calling my name or 548 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: I had to be Curly Nikki or I needed to 549 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: be a daughter or sister. It just beat during those 550 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: two hours. And during that time, like somewhere in the 551 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: last few months, this idea, this clarity came that you know, 552 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: I share on Instagram every day, but it's words I write. 553 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: I type many many words using that platform in a 554 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: way it's not intimates used. And I'm like, maybe with 555 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: all these d ms I'm getting from women and men 556 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: from all over the world, you know, like my demographic 557 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: is just expanding and expanding. I'm like, maybe there's another 558 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: platform that I can answer these questions, you know, because 559 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm only one person. Because it was getting overwhelming, and 560 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: so I thought, I set this intention to get up 561 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: before the sun every morning, and it's changed my life. 562 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not going to tell people they have to 563 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: get up before the sun, but I am going to 564 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: tell them they need to set an intention by getting 565 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: quiet and spending time with You can call it God, 566 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: you can call it love, you can call it the 567 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: I Am. It doesn't need a name because it existed 568 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: before language did, so whatever you wanna call it source 569 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: universe that we're gonna sit with that every for just 570 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: five to two minutes, and then you go into the day, 571 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: Like you said, leading you know, with your your success 572 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: or leading with your passions. They're gonna lead with their love. 573 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: With this light. They're gonna go out into the world 574 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 1: as life, as love, and it changes their lives and 575 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: the lives of the people that they bumped into along 576 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: the way. And the feedback has been tremendous. You know, 577 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: it's already grown greatly. Just it's only this is we're 578 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: moving into week two and it's amazing, Like word of 579 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: mouth you know, because it's not preaching. It's an easy 580 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: it's a it's a reminding. So you already know this. 581 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: Whoever you are listening to me, you already know that 582 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: you feel stuck and you feel unhappy. Even if you 583 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: appear to be happy, something's not quite right and you 584 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: know it's not quite right, and you're like, this can't be. 585 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: Like I'm living the same day over and over again. 586 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: It sucks. That's how everyone feels until they find this. 587 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: And once you have this, everything else starts to work. You. 588 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: Good Mornings with Nikki is the podcast, the very popular 589 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: podcast that you can find on Apple Podcasts, which you 590 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: know alatively if you if you're not an Apple were yet, Okay, 591 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: you know the Apple is the place to be. I'm 592 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: on Apple podcast and so but when I look at 593 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: different lanes, this is different lane. Your lane is different, 594 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: my lane, my money making conversation. I'm trying to motivate 595 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: people through entrepreneurship. You're trying to motivate people through spirtuality 596 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: with you, in some ways slide into people who want 597 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: to be entrepreneurs, people who want to find the right 598 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: person in your life, people who want to graduate from 599 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: high school, people want to graduate from college. People want 600 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: to meet the right person in their life. People want 601 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: to be able to get along with their kids. It 602 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: is such a huge bandwidth of opportunity for you, because 603 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: mine is really a niche, rich your is. You're covering 604 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: all these bases. How confidence do you feel you'll be 605 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: able to cover all these bases, Nikki Walton? Because I 606 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: know that there is only this one president, this one love, 607 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: and it is the essence of everything. So it is 608 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: the essence of your health, it's the essence of your wealth, 609 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: you know. And so if you can get into touch 610 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: with this and practice it, meaning keeping some attention on it. 611 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: You have your thoughts, But right next to your thoughts, 612 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: there's a place inside where you don't have to quiet 613 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: your thoughts. There's a place inside that's already quiet. 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