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Speaker 2: Welcome in.

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Speaker 4: Second half of the show begins disco ball, still down,

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Speaker 4: Marching bands on the field. Yeah, go through your entire

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Speaker 4: down McClain song if you need to. The day the

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Speaker 4: music guide there, I punctuated it for you. Jason Smith

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Speaker 4: Show with Me Mike Carmon. No Jason Smith this week

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Speaker 4: off gallivanting in Detroit, if you have a line on

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Speaker 3: A White Castle.

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Speaker 4: If you want to be paparazzo, you'll probably run into

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Speaker 4: Turn up the radio a little louder as Dan Buyer's

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Speaker 4: in his stead joining me my weekend partner, Fox Sports

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Speaker 4: Sundays as well as the I Launcher Flex podcast. You

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Speaker 4: Cavino and Richie's at the news desk in part an

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Speaker 4: integral part of what they do each and every day. Dan,

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Speaker 5: I love being in different settings. Sun is down, it's nighttime.

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Speaker 5: Usually when we're together on a Sunday morning, the sun

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Speaker 5: podcast Fantasy Football launching every Tuesday after the weeks with

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Speaker 5: our new episodes. Obviously love preseason episodes, but good to

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Speaker 5: get a little night flavor tonight.

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Speaker 3: It gets a little loose.

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Speaker 4: I mean, go back to last hour some of the

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Speaker 4: conversation with Jason Cole making sure annunciation addiction was currently

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Speaker 4: fully on point, with a couple of the Q and

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Speaker 4: of the show once Justin puts that together. Our executive producer,

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Speaker 4: Justin and of course Alex tie Shirt on the ones

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Speaker 4: of two's Monsey at the news desk and working in

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Speaker 4: the back. We've got Ian and Brandon making it all

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Speaker 4: sound so pretty Listen.

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Speaker 5: I know that Jason Cole is a long time friend

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Speaker 5: of the show and on the opportunities that I've had

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Speaker 5: to fill in. I've spoken with Jason and I respect

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Speaker 5: that tenure, Mike, But when he attacked my Smith and

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Speaker 5: the mitten joke, then then I'm pulling no punches.

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Speaker 6: Gloves are off, Let's bring.

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Speaker 4: It, especially when it started with a mitton joke and

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Speaker 4: ends with the gloves.

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Speaker 5: Yes, absolutely, the mittens are coming off.

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Speaker 3: Nicely done.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the fun and exciting world

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Speaker 4: of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 6: Hasn't been said for a while.

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Speaker 4: That's as much as I can sell it. You gotta

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Speaker 4: like that and what's funny. And we had in my

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Speaker 4: He's update talking about Travis Hunter and his expected practice schedule. Right,

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Speaker 4: start with the offense, get yourself acclimated, make your you know,

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Speaker 4: next week, start working a little hybrid, right, start working

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Speaker 4: more in your defensive backfield, because let's face it, that's

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Speaker 4: where the growing pains for Travis Hunter are going to be. Everybody,

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Speaker 4: we can find ways to get guys the ball on offense, right,

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Speaker 4: We've seen guys like Devin Hester who really didn't shouldn't

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Speaker 4: and as soon as he secured it, he was gone. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: Hall of Famer kick and punt returner. But many people

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Speaker 4: But Liam Cohen also had a curious piece of information

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Speaker 4: Diner classic movie Daniel Stern Gutenberg. All these guys before

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Speaker 4: they're pending nuptials, the wife to be has to prove

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Speaker 4: So Liam Gohen and the coaches gave him a one

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Speaker 4: hundred question quiz about the offense, play callings, play design,

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Speaker 4: He did very well, very impressed with his command in

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Speaker 5: The fifteen that he doesn't know, he's now going to

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Speaker 5: Good sign so far for Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 4: But a guy who you know, we're talking a lot

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Speaker 4: now we're several years hence and still wondering what truly

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Speaker 4: is the ceiling for Trevor Lawrence. Last year you bring

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Speaker 4: trading cards and autographs. He's got no fewer than eight

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Speaker 4: different types of signatures. We're still trying to figure out

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Speaker 4: But you've got him. You're gonna have a fight in

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Speaker 4: then now you add Travis Hunter, a shiny new toy there.

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Speaker 4: But for Trevor Lawrence trying to figure out if he'll

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Speaker 5: Yes, and that was when he was in college. Because

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Speaker 5: I actually think Mike, when Trevor Lawrence came into the NFL,

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Speaker 5: because he's in Jacksonville. And now it's up to Liam

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Speaker 5: Cohen to try to change that. And when you look

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Speaker 5: back at the Jaguars history, we know when they came

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Speaker 5: almost immediate success AFC Championship game their second year. Then

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Speaker 5: you have the run with Fred Taylor, Maurice Jones, Drew

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Speaker 5: and that's pretty much been it. So now, Mike, you've

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Speaker 5: not sure what the exact storylines are going to be,

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Speaker 5: just because is this the opportunity for them to become

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Speaker 6: And if they become hot and.

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Speaker 5: A popular team, I think that helps Trevor Lawrence and

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Speaker 6: Guy that we thought he was going to be at Clemson.

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Speaker 5: And I think that there's an opportunity there because of

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Speaker 5: intriguing to me because as a Seahawks fan, the Seahawks

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Speaker 5: I think if you were to ask most people, they

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Speaker 5: Their flash and popularity has gone down. They're not on

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Speaker 5: over with. I think Jacksonville, who's never really been there

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Speaker 5: I look at them as a whole specifically because of

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Speaker 5: the Travis Hunter Unicorn drafting of how different he is.

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Speaker 5: But if he works out, if he works out, then

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Speaker 5: it's better for Trevor Lawrence, it's better for everyone else,

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Speaker 5: better for Liam Cohen, and the Jaguars could take off.

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Speaker 4: Now get the past stops for Liam Cohen, and he's

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Speaker 4: had great success both with the Rams and with the Buccaneers,

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Speaker 4: up that you've seen in the next iteration of Baker

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Speaker 4: Mayfield's career, no question about it. For Jacksonville. The thing

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Speaker 4: that is most enticing to all of it Travis Hunter

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Speaker 4: division is there to be had, right, we talk about

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Speaker 4: the Titans one of the more uncomfortable things, and it's

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Speaker 4: really not playable on air, but the video of someone

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Speaker 4: that's the goal and whatever else. Well, Will Levis can't

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Speaker 4: Cam Ward comes in intriguing, but not a lot to

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Speaker 3: Right, they are the long shot in the division.

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Speaker 4: They're eight to one, which is still significantly better than

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Speaker 3: The Colts, there's a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of intrigue there and we'll get to the quarterback part

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Speaker 4: of that coming up in about fifteen minutes. But certainly

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Speaker 4: from a skill position standpoint, you look at the wide

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Speaker 4: telling me how brilliant Shane Steichen is. So now here's

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Speaker 4: the big question mark at the quarterback right wearing the

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Speaker 4: nice green with the derby included Jim Carrey like riddler

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Speaker 4: Jaguars are second favorites at plus two p fifty plus

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Speaker 4: Houston Texans. Last year we watched their offensive line was terrible.

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Speaker 4: It's not any better this year. Joe Mixon coming in,

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Speaker 4: he's banged up, he's not going to start training camp.

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Speaker 4: Should be okay, but something want take. Dell's not going

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Speaker 4: to be available. They've all but said we'll see him

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Speaker 4: this an opportunity for them or are they gettable? And

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Speaker 4: for Jacksonville with better quarterbackings, efficient quarterbacking from Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 4: a boost with Travis Hunter on board, the division is

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Speaker 3: Well, that's thing.

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Speaker 4: Howard's also a guy that there's plenty of tape of me,

439
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Speaker 4: and I don't do a lot of calling for guys jobs,

440
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Speaker 4: but there are times where you hit a point in

441
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Speaker 4: an organization like I think we've run its course.

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, isn't that the theme now that you have

443
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Speaker 5: ownership following the you know, not ownership change, but new

444
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Speaker 5: leaders following the passing of Jim r say that that

445
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Speaker 5: stuff's not going to fly anymore. That seems to be

446
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Speaker 5: the message coming out of out of Colts camp, and

447
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Speaker 5: and I understand that, and I think that it's his

448
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Speaker 5: last leg.

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Speaker 6: I'm doing so. But again, just like.

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Speaker 5: We talked about earlier with the Giants, the you have

451
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Speaker 5: to attach yourself to the young quarterback if you want

452
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Speaker 5: to stick around in the league, because if you don't

453
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Speaker 5: have that and that player doesn't doesn't produce, and isn't

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Speaker 5: that guy for you?

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Speaker 6: You also won't be in that position.

456
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Speaker 4: Yeah, generally you don't get to get a second or well,

457
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 4: some guys get three bites at the apple Man. I

458
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Speaker 4: can do another rant on Ryan Poles getting an exenter

459
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Speaker 4: for winning an off season with a miserable season to

460
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Speaker 4: season record. But for in, you know, you say all

461
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Speaker 4: the right thing for Richardson because eventually you may have

462
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Speaker 4: to pay him and you don't want to be in

463
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Speaker 4: the Mike Brown and Jerry Jones and Mike Brown, I

464
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Speaker 4: think for me a lot of it was he said

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Speaker 4: the quiet part. Like from a business standpoint, I agree

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Speaker 4: with what he's saying. His example was far worse than

467
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Speaker 4: what Jerry Jones said. Sure, the guy could get hit

468
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Speaker 4: by bus like that was okay, Whereas with Mike Brown,

469
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Speaker 4: he took it to the darkest part of things. But

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Speaker 4: from a negotiating standpoint, when you're talking about guaranteed moneies,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's unreasonable to think the guy has

472
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Speaker 4: to be available to you to collect said monies and

473
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Speaker 4: that you should be able to avoid.

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Speaker 3: But that's either here nor there.

475
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Speaker 4: In this particular case, it's now the we have a

476
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Speaker 4: guy here, he's still under contract.

477
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Speaker 3: We should support him by bringing in competition.

478
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Speaker 4: Maybe that's the thing that draws him back into focus,

479
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Speaker 4: back to the guy needs to be and we don't

480
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Speaker 4: have another tap out situation like we did a year

481
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 4: ago that made the Colts a laughing stock. Sure is Richardson,

482
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Speaker 4: but that's the guy that you empowered to be your guy.

483
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: So he's got a lot to prove. Much like we

484
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Speaker 4: talked with Tua and the Dolphins and what's going on

485
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Speaker 4: with Tyreek Hill and everybody playing nice sandbox, Anthony Richardson

486
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Speaker 4: needs to make amends for all of that with everybody

487
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Speaker 4: in the room.

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Speaker 5: He needs he needs to do something like one good

489
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Speaker 5: game against the Jets. Sorry, Jason Smith does not save

490
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Speaker 5: a career. The tapping out is probably going to stick

491
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Speaker 5: with him for a long time. Look at Cam Newton.

492
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Speaker 5: What is not diving on the football in Super Bowl fifty.

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Speaker 3: Yes it is everything.

494
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Speaker 4: Guy had a fantastic eight year run and his body

495
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Speaker 4: took him as far as it was going to go.

496
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Speaker 3: But he's always going to be remembered for that time

497
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Speaker 3: he didn't give him trophy.

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Speaker 5: Undefeated leads Obre to a national Championship MVP that year

499
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Speaker 5: in the NFL, and we remember him not diving on

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Speaker 5: a ball. Anthony Richardson at least has time in his

501
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Speaker 5: career to try to change that sort of narrative.

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Speaker 6: I just we know it. Listen, Chris Ballard knows it.

503
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Speaker 5: Chris Ballard is thinking what you're thinking, what I'm thinking,

504
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Speaker 5: what everybody else is thinking about Anthony Richardson. And he's

505
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Speaker 5: thinking that because he said, it's an open competition in January.

506
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Speaker 5: But if you're going to have an open competition, you

507
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Speaker 5: can't make it a one man competition by supporting Daniel

508
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Speaker 5: Jones and just saying, man, Anthony Richardson just really doesn't

509
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Speaker 5: have anything left. They said what they said about Anthony

510
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Speaker 5: Richardson and how they feel about Anthony Richardson when they

511
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Speaker 5: open it to a competition, and whether you think Daniel

512
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 5: Jones's competition or not, that's up to you, but that

513
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 5: said everything and trying to get what they can over

514
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Speaker 5: a guy that they use the fourth overall pick on.

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Speaker 6: I said it during that draft, Mike, I'm like, listen,

516
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Speaker 6: if you.

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Speaker 5: Love if, if Anthony Richardson is supposed to be your

518
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Speaker 5: Josh Allen, take him number one.

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Speaker 3: But that has almost.

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Speaker 4: Been yes, the case that we've made you and I

521
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Speaker 4: on our shows respectively, and I think in the podcast

522
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Speaker 4: whatever else. If that's your guy, you're you're If it

523
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 4: goes badly, you're walking the play with him. But if

524
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Speaker 4: you've in your evaluation you've decided that he is the

525
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 4: guy to hit your wagons to, that's that's the I

526
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 4: gotta ride it until the wheels come up.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's your evaluation. That's where you're putting your money.

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Speaker 5: And the reason I said this, I bring that up,

529
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Speaker 5: Mike be it was because it wasn't. I was saying

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Speaker 5: that Anthony Richardson should be the number one pick that year,

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Speaker 5: how we were looking at him and what was projected

532
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Speaker 5: to be there could be that possibility. So if you

533
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Speaker 5: believed that, then take him number one. Bryce Young goes one.

534
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Speaker 6: CJ. Stroud goes two. Bryce Young.

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Speaker 5: Excuse me how Anthony Richardson ends up going forward to

536
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Speaker 5: the Colts. So now you're sitting there and you have

537
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Speaker 5: a guy who we knew the situation coming into the

538
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 5: National Football League of his inexperience, but he's a high

539
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 5: draft pick and for what we've seen, you don't have

540
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 5: time to waste and find out. Imagine they waited a

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Speaker 5: year and then we found out that he was injury

542
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Speaker 5: prone and taps out. You know, like at least they

543
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Speaker 5: have their decision. Now after this third season, you don't

544
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Speaker 5: have to pick up his fifth year option to get

545
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Speaker 5: another look at.

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Speaker 6: Him, and you move on.

547
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Speaker 4: It's the curiosity of had he had he sat for

548
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 4: a year, but that would have been Uh that was

549
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Speaker 4: after Philip Rivers, right, who just retired, by the way,

550
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 4: congratulations Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 6: Is Matt Ryan?

552
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, No, it's more the joke of Philip Rivers

553
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 4: literally retiring, uh, yesterday when he hasn't played years. But

554
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: I mean you put him back with this offense they've

555
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 4: got now stiking can run wild. No, but I mean,

556
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 4: Matt Ryan, you just took spin after spin because you

557
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 4: were reeling and wandering in the desert after Andrew Luck

558
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Speaker 4: decided to take his ball and go home, like it

559
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Speaker 4: was several years of wait, what are we doing next?

560
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 4: And Anthony Richardson was your guy. So if in theory

561
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Speaker 4: he could have sat for a year, maybe you learn

562
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Speaker 4: from the veteran, Maybe you see enough in the price

563
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 4: that you can fix some of those things with his

564
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 4: delivery and his decision making. Again jokes to the Jaguars

565
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 4: and the and the quiz and all, but it's no

566
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: substitute for on field play, and what we've seen, he's

567
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: not passing that test.

568
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Speaker 3: There's no matter what curve we put on it.

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Speaker 5: At this point, it's it has not been good but

570
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 5: to sit there and we've ripped on the Colts for

571
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Speaker 5: two years pretty much with the pick right, and so

572
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Speaker 5: now they're doing something about it and trying to get

573
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Speaker 5: the last bit of juice and maybe the last hail

574
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 5: Mary on his tenure in Indianapolis because he'll find work

575
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 5: elsewhere Daniel Jones to fix them. Yeah, for sure, absolutely

576
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Speaker 5: they may have botched it, but I'm just not going

577
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Speaker 5: to criticize them. I'm not going to criticize the Colts

578
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Speaker 5: for trying to support him and try to make something

579
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Speaker 5: out of his third year in Indianapolis. Just not going

580
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Speaker 5: to happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and if they didn't see something, it would have

582
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 4: been very easy to just say we made a mistake

583
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Speaker 4: and cutting. So clearly something's still there in the offing.

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Speaker 5: I think he's officially a bust, Like there's there's I

585
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Speaker 5: think that's that's the case.

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Speaker 6: Like I.

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Speaker 5: As much as I'm supporting Ballad, I just I don't

588
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 5: believe that it's gonna work out in Indianapolis. I just

589
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 5: feel Ballad's being criticized for making comments of supporting a

590
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 5: player that I don't think is fair. But I think

591
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Speaker 5: Daniel Jonones is going to be the starting quarterback Week one.

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Speaker 4: For the course, I have no doubt that that's the case. Hey,

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Speaker 4: be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel.

594
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Speaker 4: Search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. See a whole bunch

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Speaker 4: of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe

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597
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Speaker 4: videos on YouTube. Now with a robust look at the

598
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Speaker 4: fun and exciting world of Major League Baseball and everything

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Speaker 4: going on in our universe.

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Speaker 3: It's Moncey Millennios. What's going on? Manzi?

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Speaker 9: Well everything has wrapped up phil Is, but we'll start

602
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Speaker 9: in baseball.

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Speaker 10: We did have a full slate of games.

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Speaker 9: The Red Sox were down five runs, came back to

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Speaker 9: defeat the Phillies nine to eight in a le innings.

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Speaker 9: Bryce Harper did hit his three hundred and fiftieth career

607
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Speaker 9: home run in the loss. In this one, Aaron Judge

608
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Speaker 9: hit his thirty seventh home run in the season, also

609
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Speaker 9: a loss for the Yankees. Today, the Blue Jays outscored

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Speaker 9: them eight to four. Toronto now has a four game

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Speaker 9: lead on New York in the Al East. The Rangers

612
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Speaker 9: edged the A's two to one. Corey Seeger with the homer.

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Speaker 10: In the victory.

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Speaker 9: White Sox top the Rays eleven to nine, And another day, another.

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Speaker 10: Walk off for Freddie Freeman.

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Speaker 9: Dodgers win at forty three thanks to a two RBI

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Speaker 9: single from Freeman.

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Speaker 10: It was very up and down this game, guys.

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Speaker 9: All right, we were up, then we had the bases loaded,

620
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Speaker 9: lost the lead, then we win it.

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Speaker 10: Freddy Freeman, thank you coming in clutch once again.

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Speaker 9: Mookie Betts could miss Friday series opener against his former team,

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Speaker 9: the Boston Red Sox due to a personal reason. Dave

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Speaker 9: Roberts announced this after the game. The Brewers have the

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Speaker 9: best record in baseball. They had seventeen hits today took

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Speaker 9: down Seattle ten to two was the final score. Milwaukee

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Speaker 9: is now sixty one and forty one on the season.

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Speaker 9: The Astros edged the Diamondbacks four to three. They completed

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Speaker 9: a three game sweep. The Mets defeated the Angels six

630
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Speaker 9: to three, completing their three games sweep beat Alonso with

631
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Speaker 9: a three run shot in that one. The Marlins defeated

632
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Speaker 9: the Padres three to two, while the Rocky shut out

633
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Speaker 9: the Cardinals six to zero, their.

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Speaker 10: First shutout in two hundred and twenty games. Go Rocky,

635
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Speaker 10: I about that.

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Speaker 3: That's a hell of a run. It is why Justin

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Speaker 3: Verland are getting to win.

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Speaker 9: Exactly, Justin Verlander did get a win today.

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Speaker 10: That is not a typo one. In eight offseason.

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Speaker 9: Cha's in the Giants defeated.

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00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 10: Atlanta nine to three. WNBA News.

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Speaker 9: Caitlin Clark, still still dealing with that right growin injury,

643
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Speaker 9: ruled out for Thursday's game against the Aces. In College hoops,

644
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 9: USC's five star freshmen Elijah Arena suffered a meniscus tear,

645
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Speaker 9: according to Chris Haynes, and he is expected to be

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Speaker 9: sidelined for at least six to eight months. This is

647
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Speaker 9: Gilbert Arena's son who was also in that car accident

648
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Speaker 9: not long ago where we was put in a coma

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Speaker 9: of the smoking elation and he was just allowed about

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Speaker 9: two weeks ago to go back to basketball activities and

651
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Speaker 9: he heard his knee so rough start for him.

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Speaker 10: Back to you guys.

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Speaker 3: Well, but back on a court and positive steps in

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Speaker 3: that regard.

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Speaker 10: Now, sure, totally.

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Speaker 4: I just think this will be a little bit should

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Speaker 4: we say, easier to get past, Not that we wish

658
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Speaker 4: ill on anybody.

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00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: He's been through hell. Here's the next challenge. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: thanks Monci Dodgers.

661
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: Also not to bury the lead Tyler Glass now gave

662
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 4: them seven strong that's too straight starts in a much

663
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 4: beleaguered rotation where he's gone well for them and I

664
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: don't think any relievers got hurt and they didn't have

665
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 4: any errors.

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00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 9: Yes, correct, and twelve strikeouts for Tyler exactly?

667
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 5: Did you know that Verlander toocked me off eighteen years ago?

668
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 5: And I'm still mad A love that you're still about

669
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 5: it eighteen years in running. It was like the eighteen

670
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 5: year anniversary, Kenne, what did he do?

671
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: So that would have been? Yeah, let's let's tease that.

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00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 6: There.

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Speaker 4: You got story time with Dan coming up next, justin Verlander,

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Speaker 4: what did he do? At Dan Byer on Fox at

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Speaker 4: off the air. Story time and fantasy running backs. That's

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Speaker 4: a nice merger.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 4: with Me Mike Harmon. No Jason denied Dan Byer in

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Speaker 4: his stead. He'll be with me again tomorrow night. Catch

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Speaker 4: all the podcast stuff as it goes up. As we

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Speaker 4: finish up the show a little later on, Justin'll have

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00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 4: that up, including the story that I'm waiting with baited

695
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 4: breath for we teased a head. We'll get to our

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00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 4: fantasy top five running backs here in a moment, pass

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00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 4: catchers out of the backfield and heroes zero running back.

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Speaker 3: I think not.

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00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: But before we had a little bit of a Justin

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00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 4: Verlander excited utterance of that guy.

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00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: So it became a story.

702
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 4: And now it goes back to an All Star Game

703
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 4: occurrence of years ago. Dan Byer still having taking some

704
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 4: umbridge with Justin Verlander, who earned his first win in

705
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 4: seventeen starts today.

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00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and to the long and short of it, he

707
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 5: was a jerk to me. He was just just a

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00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 5: jerk to me in the clubhouse. And this is how

709
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 5: it happened. This is in light of Mike Rabel, you know,

710
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 5: taking Ben Volan to task for not listening in his

711
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: press conference.

712
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 6: You may think it's along those lines.

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00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 5: Long story short mic All Star Festivities two thousand and

714
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 5: seven in San Francisco. We flew from LA to San

715
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 5: Francisco that day, so home run derby is that day.

716
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 5: What ends up happening is you gather information and you

717
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 5: gather your sound during the BP prior to home run derby.

718
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 5: So we were delayed. My luggage was lost on a

719
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 5: forty five minute flight. Don't ask, I have no idea.

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00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 5: We didn't get to the ballpark until after the player

721
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 5: availability was over. I know this is all boring, but

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00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 5: it leads to the point when the home run derby

723
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 5: is happening. Most of the players have left. You have

724
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 5: no idea what all stars are actually going to be around,

725
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 5: except for maybe the couple of guys who were in

726
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 5: the home run derby. Well, Justin Verlander happened to be

727
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 5: one of the players sticking around, and it was in

728
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 5: the clubhouse.

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00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 6: Went up to him, asked him a question. They had

730
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Speaker 6: lost the.

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00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 5: Previous year to the Cardinals in the World Series, and

732
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: I just asked them a question of like, you know,

733
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 5: does this game with home field advantage because it was

734
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 5: on the line, does it matter because you were in

735
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 5: the situation last year? And he goes, boy, these are

736
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 5: some real original questions. Wow, And so I was like,

737
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 5: now you didn't know my backstory. But also I could

738
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 5: have said, what happened when you lost the World Series

739
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 5: last year?

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00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 6: Yeah? Could have been that question, right, could have been much.

741
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 4: More dim still dancing around in your head? Is it

742
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 4: take you? Do you take it to bed with Jerk?

743
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 5: I was asking generic questions to get my sort of

744
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 5: responsibilities done. Sure for gathering sound Was it the greatest

745
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 5: question in the world?

746
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 7: No?

747
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 6: Did I think it was apropos for the situation? Yes?

748
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 6: And he had a problem with it.

749
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,919
Speaker 5: So sorry, if you had to answer it a couple

750
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 5: of times before earlier in the day. Sorry, but eighteen

751
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 5: years later, I still have a problem with it.

752
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, just say this time it counts and it shouldn't

753
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: tip your cap and walk away.

754
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 6: Never I've never cheered for him ever since that point.

755
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: And there you go.

756
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 4: Nastro's and the Tigers. So I didn't like him because

757
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 4: he was in division against the white shirt.

758
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: So now hey, he could be I can put them

759
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: on my long hand and.

760
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 6: On another sixteen start non win streak.

761
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: There you go.

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Speaker 4: top of your screen. I know we appreciate petty here, Well,

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Speaker 4: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I also want to say this, Mike, You're in this

773
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 5: business enough and we're fortunate enough to talk with a

774
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 5: lot of different athletes. I get asked this question more

775
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 5: by other people than maybe any other question outside of

776
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 5: do you know Terry Bradshaw because we work for that one.

777
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 6: By my family, I think every relative has asked me, Oh,

778
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 6: that's the case. I don't. I don't.

779
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 4: I still get ticket requests twenty years later, I get nothing.

780
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 4: I don't get tickets from me let alone to give

781
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 4: to you.

782
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 5: Who's the nicest athlete you've had to deal with? Is

783
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 5: the question I get? And then I get who was?

784
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 5: Who didn't you like? And I have I have an

785
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 5: answer for each of those, like that nicest athlete, Cole

786
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 5: Hamil's Philadelphia Phillies Okay, yes, absolutely rudiest, Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers,

787
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 5: like it goes boom boom, boom boom. I am just

788
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 5: as excited to say Justin Verlander as I'm just as

789
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 5: excited to say Cole Hamil's. Cole Hamil's nice guy, Justin

790
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 5: Verlander rude to me? You have you have one, You've

791
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 5: got it. Everybody does a lot of the nice ones.

792
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: I try to the jerky ones like I don't.

793
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 6: I don't go to any names.

794
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: No, but I don't.

795
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: I don't go to as many events anymore, Like what's

796
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: upon a time they were, you know, regular, and it

797
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 4: would be chasing a guy, and he'd said I didn't

798
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 4: have time, like in terms of being really being jerky

799
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 4: to me, I don't know that I have a guy.

800
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 5: Here's also my whole point. And I'm and I know

801
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 5: we're probably not going to get the fan of I'll

802
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 5: get to fantasy next hour, that's fine, But because it's

803
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 5: a one on one situation and I feel like he

804
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 5: thought he could probably get away with it.

805
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 6: So that's why I have absolutely no problem are out here.

806
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 5: Eighteen years later because you thought you could get away

807
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 5: with it, You thought you could be a jerk, you

808
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 5: thought you could be snarky in that way when there

809
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 5: was no reason to. That's the reason why. And I

810
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 5: don't need an apology. I don't need anything. I'm obviously

811
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 5: not over it because it's been eighteen years, but I

812
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 5: don't even care about being over it. That's that's that's

813
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 5: why I talk about it. That's why I name names.

814
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 4: Now I'm trying to think of circumstances. But the one

815
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 4: has a funny story to it.

816
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 6: Okay, so was.

817
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 4: One of the time I was used to travel to

818
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 4: super Bowl events on my own time and my own

819
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 4: dime back in the day before working at nights here

820
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio. And it's like trying to build a

821
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 4: name in the business. Used to run and run into

822
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 4: Jay Glazer and things whatever, and occasionally you get yourself

823
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 4: invited to a party.

824
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 3: It's like cool, so go to.

825
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: One and uh, well it got mocked by by a

826
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 4: series of legends, but it makes for a great story.

827
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 4: It was a jerky move in the moment because like, hey,

828
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 4: little man, you know Blank Newton, little reporter, you know

829
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: media guy. But then it makes for a great story

830
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 4: because they basically said that well that God had smited

831
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 4: me by making me wide in shoulder but small in stature,

832
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 4: with not so great terms attached Rump and later on

833
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: in the party, Snooker performed at like three am for

834
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 4: anybody that was still there, he showed up.

835
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: I was like, eh, we gotta other.

836
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 4: It's like turning back, hey little man, you want to

837
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 4: spot by the rails that you can see It's like

838
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: so former Eagles quarterback Chicago kid, Yeah, at you McNab,

839
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 4: there you go.

840
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: But it's a great story between him and Ray Lewis.

841
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 3: They mocked me. It was great.

842
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 6: Well, at least he got a front row seat out

843
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 6: of it.

844
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 3: That's I did drop it like it was hot, So

845
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 3: it was good.

846
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 5: I get it. Athletes are out for dinner. They don't

847
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 5: want to be bothered. Somebody doesn't sound an autograph And

848
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 5: to the worst person in the world, that's not what

849
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 5: this setting was. This is a locker room where you're

850
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 5: just asking an innocent question. That's all you're trying to do,

851
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 5: just trying to do your job.

852
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: Just give me fifteen seconds.

853
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: And then after I stopped recording, that helped me to

854
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: go blank myself.

855
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 6: Sure, right, So.

856
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: Somebody had asked me that two questions earlier because I

857
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: was the only one talking to him.

858
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: Completely get it.

859
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,919
Speaker 6: That's why Mike Vrabel got mad because he just talked

860
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 6: about it.

861
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 5: Nobody was listening. Yep, And so like, I get that

862
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 5: portion of it. But if I'm new to it, I've

863
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 5: got my own duties to figure out.

864
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 4: It's new to your situation. It's like the reruns on

865
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 4: NBC back.

866
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: In the day.

867
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 4: If you didn't see it, it's new to you. How

868
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 4: about a guy that's saying it's unacceptable.

869
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 6: I haven't