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And good morning Hi to you 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 2: and yours. 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: Good morning, Hi guy, whoa whoa. 22 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 4: Jesus, We've got a Your voice sounds better today buddy, Well, we'll. 23 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: Set that for right now. I'll sit with the rest 24 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: of the rest. Show's got in store your total last night, though, 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: Big Red and old red ass Liam Cohen, how about it? 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: Square it off? 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: Duvall that is he's never going to live that down, 28 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: is he? No, it's always going to be him. Yeah, 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: I think that's all last the first win for the Jaguars. 30 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: But do it, you can do it the way you 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: want to do it today. Huh, that's the first Monday 32 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: Night football win for the Jaguars, not mistaken since twenty eleven. 33 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: So it's been a little while since since they've been 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: in the win column on Monday Night. But that was 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: a fun game, fun game to watch. 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: How Lloyd ran all the way into the end zone, 37 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 4: even even when they tried to knock the ball out 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: of his hand. Huh, held on time, didn't celebrate. Yeah, 39 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 4: it was good ball security. How about that? He was 40 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 4: digging too. 41 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: Wasn't he? Man? 42 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: He was digging like he knew how like he ran track. 43 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 4: He had great form. I was proud of the linebacker 44 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: last night. Great ball security, Yeah, real, great ball security. 45 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: He broke the myth, you know, the stereotype, you know 46 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: that that was plaguing, you know, plaguing. 47 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 3: The what was like a white guys. How are you 48 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: trying to say? I don't know. 49 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: I'm just saying he broke the stereotypes, is all I'm saying. 50 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 4: You know, it was good. I was proud of him. 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: I was like, man, please don't let the ball go early. 52 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 4: Please please, I don't want us to be judged. 53 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: Are you guys going to uh do you do you 54 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: want me to do it for you? Or you guys 55 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 2: just want to apologize to the AFC South? Do you 56 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: want to? They got a couple of foreign one teams. 57 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 3: Hey, man, the big bad Wolf is dead. Bro. 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: That's all I know. They looked pretty good, which is interesting. 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't gone that nobody's afraid of this, this Kansas 60 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 4: City team, Kansas City Chiefs team anymore. There's no fear factor. 61 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: There's no I hate to say that, there's no Mahomes 62 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 4: factor anymore. They're they are going to have to win 63 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 4: games now from here on out because nobody's afraid of them. 64 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 4: And I think, listen, I think this Jacksonville team is 65 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 4: a pretty damn good team. I did not expect them 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 4: to be this good. I'll be the first one to 67 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 4: say that. For me, I didn't think that they would 68 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 4: be at this this record at this juncture in the season. 69 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: But watching them play against Kansas City, I mean, you're 70 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 4: talking about a team that has borderline been a dynasty team, 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: if not a dynasty team, and probably we're out there, 72 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 4: maybe they're they're they're they're their strongest with their personnel. 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: You know, they had everybody back last evening and and 74 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: Jacksonville just you know, they were better. I thought they 75 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: were just they were better. I mean, if they don't 76 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: fumble the ball on on that that one goal line play. 77 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it was a close game, but I don't 78 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 4: think that it was super close, Like I don't. I 79 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 4: felt like they were the better team. 80 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: You know what's interesting too, let's go back and review 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 3: their season so far. They lost at home or I 82 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: guess not at home. They're the home team. But Chargers 83 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: week one than what was that Mexico City where that 84 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: Brazil Brazil, Brazil, Brazil. Uh, they lose the Eagles. The 85 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 3: following week they beat the Giants. It's not really a 86 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: great win. 87 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 5: Uh. 88 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: They beat the Ravens at home handily, but again Ravens 89 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: are struggling and then they lose the Jaguars, Like actual 90 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: think what you you know, you look at like who 91 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: they who? They've lost too, they've beat It's like what 92 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: they haven't really beat anyone. Yeah, well and when you 93 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: look well, All says, if you look at the rest 94 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: of the schedule, I mean, they've got the Raiders on there, 95 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: but things pick up. They played Detroit next week, They've 96 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 3: got the Bills Broncos on the road back to back weeks. 97 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: Colts who is Jonas pointed out that are in the 98 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: AFC South, this division that's tough. At Dallas, Who's I 99 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: think exceeded our expectations. Maybe it's been a little bit 100 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 3: better than we thought. Has been a little bit better too. 101 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: I mean the only thing they have going for them 102 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: is they played the Raiders twice because they're in the 103 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: AFC West. They start the Titans of the schedule. But 104 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: they've got a tough, tough stretch of games and I 105 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: don't know, man, Like I'm looking through the rest of 106 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 3: the schedule. I think getting to nine wins is going 107 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: to be really, really tough. Thank I'm just calling how 108 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: I see it. 109 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: I think Poteco hurt Jonahs say he hasn't been the same, 110 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: han't been the same? CHECKO was cooking last night? What 111 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: did I say that one of y'all said he was? 112 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 4: I'm pretty certain it was you that said Proseccochecko. I said, 113 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 4: Pachecko is a is a a really really solid piece 114 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 4: and a weapon for Kansas City. 115 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: What do you mean he was cooking last night? But 116 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: what did you do? He was? 117 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: I thought Pachecko was was a very very vital part 118 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 4: of their offense last night. 119 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: I didn't even have forty yards last night. I thought 120 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: he was very very effective for the team. Do you 121 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: mean serious? I'm being did serious? The way he ran 122 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: the ball. 123 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 4: The confusam hunts Hunt, Kareem Hunt, No, no, I no, 124 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: he got touchdowns. But Pacheco was running hard. He was 125 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 4: getting good yards for them and critical points and time 126 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: being serious, they did I think you have to run 127 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: for one hundred yards for you to be cooking. 128 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: I mean he was playing. 129 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: He did some really good things for them last night, 130 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 4: and he was running really hard. 131 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: I was actually research I was researching this. I was 132 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: researching this after you was watching. 133 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: He didn't even have a better average than Hunt last night. 134 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 3: I was watching cooking. 135 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: I was researching this after the game. They called his 136 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: they called it the most impact they called it the 137 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: most impactful thirty six yards rushing in the history of 138 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: the NFL. So to Levar's point, I think he's onto 139 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: something there like that was you're being funny? Yeah, the 140 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: box score reading. But let's be talking to Checko had 141 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: a really good game. He was running really hard. You're 142 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: going to doubt my research. 143 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 3: He was very check He's very very looks like he's 144 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: running really hard. That's what I'm saying. 145 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: He was running really hard and he made really hard Yeah, 146 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 4: but he was effective and running really hard. I'm telling 147 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 4: you he made some really good. 148 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: Runs on something. What are you talking about. 149 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: No, he had three catches. 150 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 4: And they were he was impactful with what he was doing. 151 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 4: I watched the game. 152 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: I'm glad you watched the game. 153 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: I don't know why you're trying to judge my judgment. 154 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: I saw what I saw. I'm not going back down 155 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: on it no matter. 156 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: If whatever I want. On this hill, I thought, look 157 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: good running the ball. I thought he was bizarre. Take. 158 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: I've ever heard you like I want to die out 159 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: a hill for this is great. 160 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: I'm not going to die on the hill, but I'm 161 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: not going back down. 162 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: Off of it. 163 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: I mean, I thought you're Jacko did not look like 164 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: a running back that was different from an injury last night. 165 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: He did not. 166 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: He was effective, and he made some some really really 167 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: nice plays for them, picked up first downs for them. 168 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: I thought he'd played. He was cooking. 169 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: I'm y'all say what I want. That's what I saw 170 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 2: from you. 171 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: Do you really He had one long run for what 172 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: fifteen yards? 173 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 4: But it was sixteen It was it was his usage 174 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 4: and his integration in the offense. 175 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 2: He had some critical moments. Okay, do the. 176 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,119 Speaker 3: Bath on that. You take away that one run. Okay, 177 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: he averaged put over three yards per attempt. 178 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: Okay, they were a good three yards. 179 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. The homes led them in rushing last night. Yeah, 180 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: Kareem Hunt was the actual, more impactful running back. 181 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: Those guys benefited from the way Pacheco was playing last night. 182 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: Yes, all right, this is a skit. This is a game. 183 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: Negative about it. It's not. It could have been less 184 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: than three yards to carry. Yes, this is you guys 185 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: are being gangers right now. 186 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not playing anymore whatever you're doing 187 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: playing any games. I'm bidding serious. They lost the game. 188 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 4: I'm not going to sit here and keep like going 189 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: back and forth about Pachecko. 190 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 2: I like the way he looked last night. I like 191 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 2: the way he played. 192 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: He didn't look like he was injured or a different 193 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 4: running back from before his injury. 194 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: I thought he looked I thought he looked good. I 195 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 2: thought he looked good. 196 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: So random? Am random? 197 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: Well? 198 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: When I when I saw him making some of the 199 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 4: plays that he made and was cooking, and my estimation, 200 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 4: I thought about. 201 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: Jonas thirty six yards is cooking. That's something. 202 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: Hey man, I just know what I was seeing when 203 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: I was watching, you. 204 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 3: Were seeing thirty six yards. That's a lot of production. 205 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: I mean, when the production is specified and intentional, it's 206 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: it's pretty good. 207 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's about what Saquan's averaging a game this year. 208 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, y'all trying to be fun nothing anyway, anyway, 209 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 4: I did where'd you rus? Where'd he go to the 210 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 4: Rutgers anyway? You know, there's been a lot of things 211 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 4: said about what Kansas City could or couldn't be, may 212 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: or may not be. What they aren't is intimidating. That's 213 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: that's just that's ultimately what it comes down to. I 214 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: don't really know what Jacksonville is. They play some some 215 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 4: hell of fad defense. They do play defense, and I 216 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: know they were highlighting the fact that the secondary is very, 217 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 4: very physical. They are physical. It is a physical group. 218 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 4: I'm not sure what they are. I don't know if 219 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: their record is really who they are. I mean, they've aren't, 220 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: they've aren't where they are. They're four to one, but 221 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 4: I'm not sure about them. I'm not sure. They're offense 222 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 4: sputtered at times, and I thought that they could have 223 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 4: been They could have been better in some spots. But 224 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 4: I mean, nonetheless, they were able to win the game. 225 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 4: And like I said, I thought they were the better team. 226 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: I didn't think that they just pulled the game out 227 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 4: because it did get interesting at the end. I thought 228 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 4: that they were the better team last night over the 229 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs. 230 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: You want to hear Liam Kohane, mister du Baal talk 231 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 2: about the Trevor Lawrence play gets stepped on scrambles, make 232 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: something of it and scores the game winning touchdown for 233 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: the Jaguars last night. Here was the Jacksonville head coach was. 234 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: Throw it away? 235 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 6: No, I mean because you know when he got stepped 236 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 6: on and he's coming out of it and you're like, 237 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 6: oh my gosh, throw it away so we could have 238 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 6: another down. 239 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: Man, what an individual effort. 240 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously a tough moment where I can only 241 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 6: imagine where he was at in that moment on the ground, 242 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 6: But to get up, break what three tackles or whatever 243 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 6: it was, two tackles and shed some dude off and 244 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 6: go running in the end, I mean, that's an unbelievable 245 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 6: individual effort. 246 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd love it to. 247 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 6: Be cleaner, uh, and just making a nice executed play, 248 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, it's about winning. 249 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 6: And I'm proud of the toughness that he showed at 250 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 6: the end of that game. 251 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 2: You know, he reminds me of Nick Sirianni. He's got 252 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 2: kind of this quirky confidence. He's not no no, But 253 00:12:59,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: my point. 254 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 3: Is he's not Italian saying well, I. 255 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: Mean, listen, you know, I mean not everybody's perfect, I guess, 256 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: but I look at him and I go, that's a 257 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 2: guy who people criticize the hiring because of his duval stuff, 258 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 2: and like, all right, this is off to a bad start, 259 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: just like they did the same thing with an experience. Yeah, boy, 260 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: this is this is this is off, this is off 261 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 2: to a bad start, and then he goes out there 262 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 2: and he just does it a little bit differently. He's 263 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: getting into, you know, fights after the game with Robert Sala. 264 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: He's just he's got this gregarious sort of personality to him. 265 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 2: And I just wonder how many people saw this in 266 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: Jacksonville after the Duval comments and just assumed, I'll here 267 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: we go, this is another goofball who's going to get 268 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 2: a job, and he's going to be out in two 269 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: to three years and Jacksonville is going to recycle coaches. 270 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 2: He's probably the coach of the year in the NFL 271 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: right now, like he's probably. 272 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: I'd probably put Shane Steigen up there too, but I'd 273 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 3: also say this. I mean, what he's doing is tapping 274 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: into a roster that's had players in a particular quarterback 275 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: that people have felt really good about for a long time. 276 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 3: I mean, this is finally, I guess the staff of 277 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: the group that's able to maximize Trevor Lawrence get the 278 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: defense to play at a higher level. I mean that's 279 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: what this is. Find a running game. I mean, yeah, 280 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: I meant to stay healthy as long as etn stays healthy. 281 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: I think that will be part of it. But it's 282 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 4: found balance. He's definitely created balance with that team, and 283 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: and there's a belief you could see like they were 284 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: ready to compete again. I don't think this is a 285 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: bad Kansas City Chief team. That's the crazy thing about it. 286 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 4: I do not think this is a bad team. I 287 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: just don't think anybody's afraid of them anymore. And so 288 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 4: when they got to play head up head up, I 289 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: mean they you know, that was a major, major mistake, 290 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 4: you know, with that interception, a timely mistake with the 291 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: ninety nine yard interception return. But I thought that was 292 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 4: more about that kid's will to get to the end 293 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 4: zone than it was anything else, because you could almost 294 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 4: stop them, see if you could live to fight another day, 295 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 4: but he wasn't going to be denied that touchdow LB. 296 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 3: So I thought last night's uh drive by Trevor Lawrence 297 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: to go ahead, like, there's there's something to be said 298 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 3: for that. You know, he hasn't had many of those moments, 299 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: and to be able to do that the way he did, 300 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 3: I just I thought that was a big moment for him. Now, 301 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 3: maybe you guys don't see it as much that way. 302 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 4: But you know, I'm just going to disagree with you, 303 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: just to disagree though and what you can because you. 304 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: Already talk about it. But checkout think which was bizarre. 305 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: But come on, no, but like think about most most 306 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: of them, most teams listen to this. When Kansas City 307 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: goes up twenty twenty four, the under two minutes, that 308 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: was like, that's been the Steve Spagnola, Kansasity Chiefs, Chris Jones. 309 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 3: They find a way of closing out the game. Yeah, 310 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 3: like they find a way of closing out that game. Like, 311 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 3: oh no, Kansas City did what they did at twelve 312 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 3: play drive right, they come back, they take the lead. 313 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 3: And by the way, it's not like you need a 314 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: fueld goal, you need a touchdown. And I just I 315 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 3: look at you know, look, it obviously help when Butler 316 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: h Harrison Bucker kicked it out of bounds, right, so 317 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: that gives them good field position, which gives you a 318 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: little momentum right off the bat. But I also go, 319 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: all right, you still gotta go down and get a touchdown. 320 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: And this like, when's last time you can think of 321 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence bringing this team back in a game, and 322 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 3: especially versus a good team. 323 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: The playoff game against the Chargers. 324 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 3: That's why the last time, which was what two three 325 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: years ago? 326 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's been a while. 327 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: It might have been longer than that. 328 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 2: Right, Brandon Staley was the coach. That's all long ago, 329 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: that's been Yeah. 330 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: So I just I look at this and I go, 331 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 3: all right, it's a big moment, not just for the 332 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 3: win till LaVar's point about maybe where Kansas City's at, 333 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 3: but just you know the perception of this win, but 334 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: also for Trevor Lawrence. It's a big step. A lot 335 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: of people questions about what he is, what he's not. 336 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 3: If you can still be the guy everyone thinks. So 337 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 3: for this team to be able to do that, that 338 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: that stood out to me like that that's meaningful. I 339 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 3: think in the bigger picture of the perception of Trevor Lawrence, 340 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: if he can be the guy everyone thinks he's going 341 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: to be and get the job done, and he did 342 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: last night. 343 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: I mean, if ESPN could you know, get the camera 344 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: off and when he's about a knuckle. 345 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: Just definitely had him up in his that's a big nose. 346 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: I was just put his fingers in his mouth. 347 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 2: Man. 348 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 4: I was like please don't eat these, please please, Trevor, 349 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 4: please don't get it out of there. 350 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: Get out of there, please get out of there. Mayda 351 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: abort at Who's like? Who's onmerating that? 352 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 3: Bro? Come on? 353 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: He looked so majestic and stoic. Camera three, stay with it. 354 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 4: Then his nose just went right on up. His finger 355 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 4: went right. 356 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: On up, man, Like, what a bounce back here for 357 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. 358 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: I started thinking to myself. 359 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: I was like, man, yeah, I used to have a 360 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 4: ton of night and boogers in my nose on the sideline. Man, 361 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: that was always a thing, Like I'd always end up 362 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: in the camera with boogers in my nose, A booger dude. 363 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: Man. 364 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 2: So I was always like, I was always mixing with 365 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: my nose. 366 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 4: Oh no, they caught that man in a compromising position, man, 367 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 4: and I didn't like it. 368 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: People still blow snot rockets. 369 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely. I still do that now. Yeah what are you 370 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 3: talking about? I did that yesterday? 371 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not judging. It's fine, Well why not 372 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: for me? 373 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 3: But do you not? 374 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 2: I if I need to, if there's nothing nothing to 375 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: blow my nose with, yeah, it's got to happen, you know. 376 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: I'm just curious. I just do it to do it 377 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 4: sometimes because it just makes sense. 378 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: You're you're really not going to raise your son, right, 379 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: That's the problem is you asked that question Tank because 380 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: you go in the baseball field, you're probably like, oh, 381 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: let me get you a tissue. Let me get you 382 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 3: a tissue real quick, hold on, let me, hey, is 383 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: anyone got a tissue? We got a tissue out there 384 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: for my son. 385 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: Let me go hand brush your yourselot where you stand. 386 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: It's not accurate, and make sure I get the little 387 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: handheld sweeper so I can make sure your space is. 388 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 2: I tell him to blow his nose on another kid's jersey. Oh, well, 389 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: there you go to When he gets to five, I'll 390 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: teach him snot rockets. And when he gets to six, 391 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 2: I'll teach him to you know, if he's got to, 392 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 2: you know, pull some other shenanigans like, there's there's stages here. 393 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: There's a process to all this, a right, there's a method. 394 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 3: Many I'll tell me about parenting. Pow. 395 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't worry, you'll get there one day. 396 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: Man. 397 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 4: I got faith, by the way, uh, I got a 398 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 4: son living with a with a girl. So you know, 399 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 4: y'all get on my level. Yeah, y'all, get on my level. Damn, 400 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 4: he lives with his chicken. You know what comes next? 401 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 4: Uh yeah? 402 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 3: Are you ready for. 403 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 4: That brou I mean he's responsible, so it won't be 404 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 4: too soon. I don't know that I'm ready to be 405 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 4: a grand day. I'm a great I'm a great uncle. 406 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 4: Though one of my nieces had a kid. Getting old, Man, 407 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 4: I'm getting old. 408 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: You also got a dog that's hopping fences now. 409 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 4: I can't believe the dude is going to too. It's 410 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 4: to our yard. It's still our yard that he's hopping into, 411 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: but there's a low retainer wall where there's little dogs 412 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: down there that be barking at him. And I think 413 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 4: he's gotten tired of them barking at him. And now 414 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 4: that he's marking. So now he's gotten that big. He's 415 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: going over the gate. 416 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: He'd probably been busting the falls about the skunk baby yelling. 417 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: He's been the same since to Skunky. 418 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 4: I'll tell you that he's been out for blood, got 419 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 4: something to prove, and out for blood. 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He's the 439 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: one and only Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL and College 440 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 2: Football rules analyst. You can get him on x at 441 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: Dean Blandino. Dean, good morning, Good morning Dean guys. 442 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 5: You know you know when I when I hear that music, 443 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 5: I'm actually sitting in my in my library right now 444 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 5: from I've got you know, just got a couple of 445 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 5: people around me. One I just kissed my hand. Yeah 446 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 5: you know, I'm just sitting there like Acino and just 447 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 5: ready to go. 448 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: You gotta you had a handgun hidden it behind the toilet, 449 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, got a horse head and. 450 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 5: A bit horse said it's never personal, so it's only 451 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 5: don't Yeah, that's that's one way of putting it. Wow, 452 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 5: you the horse, you had the horse ready to go? 453 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: Good job. 454 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 3: Well we just talked about justin Tucker and as Jonas 455 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: would call it the grab lab. So yeah, yep, yep, Dean, 456 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: I've got a question from my game. I'm still trying 457 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 3: to figure this out. Do you know where I'm going 458 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 3: with this one? About the the roughing the kicker on 459 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 3: the pat we had with Colts Raiders, which then somehow 460 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: when they instituted the penalty on the kickoff, the Colts 461 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: kicked out of bounds and meanwhile the Raiders got penalized. 462 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 3: Can you help explain that whole thing to me? 463 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 5: So that's one of those deals where a kickoff out 464 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 5: of bounds is the penalty is twenty five the twenty 465 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 5: five yards in the spot of the kick right. So 466 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 5: normally we kick off from the thirty five kickoff out 467 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 5: of bounds, you get the forty which is a great 468 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 5: field position. It doesn't change if the ball is moved 469 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 5: because of a penalty right fifteen yards for the carryover 470 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 5: on the kickoff or on the pat, it it's still 471 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 5: twenty five yards. So it's actually a smart play, you know, 472 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 5: kicking it out of bounds. 473 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 3: But the interesting thing was they didn't mean to, like, 474 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: I don't think they knew the loophole. I think there's 475 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 3: some confusion. May officials seemed confused too. 476 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you know now, I think teams won't 477 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 5: will will figure that out that hey, and look that 478 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 5: that doesn't happen very often. One of the things when 479 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 5: they went to this new kickoff, because remember it used 480 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 5: to be the old kickoff. If you had a touchdown, 481 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 5: like team throws a touchdown pass and there's rough of 482 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 5: the passer, a team could elect to take that on 483 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 5: the kickoff. Now you can't. You have to do it 484 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 5: on the try because they want to avoid that that 485 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 5: situation moving the kickup or back. But on the pat 486 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 5: there's nowhere else to put it. You have and you 487 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 5: have to enforce personal fouls, and so that's just one 488 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 5: of those weird kind of I don't know if it's 489 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 5: a loop. Well, it's just that's the rule. 490 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: It's a loophole. I mean, that's one that you'd have 491 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 3: to think they'll change in the off season, right, I. 492 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 5: Think they'll they'll talk about it. Yeah. 493 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: I think it's like the Raiders are sitting there thinking, like, 494 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 3: they just kicked the ball out of bounds and we 495 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 3: get penalized for it. 496 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they did, but they did foul, right, so 497 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 5: they they there should be some penalty to that because 498 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 5: of the foul. But yeah, I get it, and I 499 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 5: know there was. 500 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: No penalty to it. Like, so what happened was the culture. 501 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 5: So this takes me back to when Brady was in 502 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 5: the studio and he would come up and we would 503 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 5: argue about rules and stuff, and I'd be like, yeah, 504 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 5: you're right, dude, you're right, and then he'd leave and 505 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 5: I tell the rest of the room he is so 506 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 5: fully you know what. 507 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 3: Well, the funny thing about this is you're with Tom Brady, 508 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 3: So apparently attention Perreira goes. It'll be on the tape 509 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: next week. It'll most like change, it will most likely 510 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 3: change next year, because. 511 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 5: You're exactly right. You're exactly right, well right, I mean, by. 512 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: The way, I guess I understand now why NFL fish 513 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 3: things so bad. This is what we've got. We've got 514 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 3: guys who can't give me a damn answer. 515 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 5: We know you had a long weekend. We're just gonna 516 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 5: leave it there. 517 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: But you act like you gave an answer that would 518 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: make Raiders fans understand what the hell happened? They lost 519 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 3: field position. 520 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 5: But didn't they foul on the extra point? 521 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 3: Yes, but they kept the pat and the instituted on the. 522 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 5: Kickoffs, they still fouled, so they should be put at 523 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 5: a disadvantage, right, normally you get fifteen yards on that. 524 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 5: That's the only point I get what you're saying. 525 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 3: I don't know they will at a disadvantage and then 526 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 3: the kick play happens and that's a new play, right. 527 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 5: And that's a new play? Yeah? 528 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, So okay, then how are you penalizing the team? 529 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: Then that wasn't in that situation, pedal, Why do they have. 530 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 5: To That's that's the rule. It's twenty five yards. If 531 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 5: you want to then if you want to change it, okay, 532 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 5: if the balls moved because of a penalty that carries over. 533 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 5: Now now it gets more complicated, and we're going to say, okay, 534 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 5: it's not twenty five yards in that instance, maybe it's okay, 535 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 5: it's we still want to end up at the forty. 536 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 5: So if you kick it out of bounce and then 537 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 5: they could that could be a change. And you say, 538 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 5: then in that instance, we're still going to be put 539 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 5: at the forty. 540 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 3: I'd hope you understand what I'm saying though, is they 541 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 3: kicked it out of bounds. 542 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 5: And not on that play they fouled, and then they 543 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: were they were putting the rewards found and they were 544 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 5: put in worse to the field position. 545 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 3: Yep, well the Colts found, but they were a reward 546 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: for it. Basically is how I put it simply, I 547 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 3: got it. 548 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 5: I got it. 549 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: I will I got it. 550 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 5: My godfather, I will, I got it. I'll send them 551 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 5: over to you know, South Florida. 552 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: But anyway, Dean I had something that probably won't make 553 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 2: Raider fans happy either. So last night the Chiefs pull 554 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: off I guess a legal pick play near the goal 555 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: line on the Travis Kelce touchdown, which that was crazy. Well, 556 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: they threw the flag and all the Chiefs ran over 557 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: to let them know no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that was 558 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: within the rules. It was the foot yard, it was 559 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: the But you know, I think the rules analysts last 560 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: night was looking at it saying, yeah, I probably would 561 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 2: have thrown the flag there and kept it. That should 562 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: have been an illegal pick play. The narrative surrounding the 563 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: maybe that the Chiefs get away with more than other 564 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 2: teams do, or the officiate like, do you guys hear that? 565 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: And is there an emphasis like, hey, make sure we're 566 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 2: calling this the right way, because there's already a narrative 567 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 2: out there publicly that one team gets the benefit of 568 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 2: the doubt over others in the NFL. 569 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, Look, officials are people, and they and 570 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 5: they not that they're trying to tell officials stay up 571 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 5: for social media state, but they're not. They They live, 572 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 5: they work, they do different things, They see these things 573 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 5: that everybody talks about. It's not they're not immune to it. 574 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 5: But it doesn't. We never said, hey, oh my gosh, 575 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 5: the t you know, the Patriot to winning all these 576 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,679 Speaker 5: super Bowls, so the Chiefs are winning. We got to 577 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 5: make sure that we were extra careful during those games. 578 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 5: It's every game, right, there's so much scrutiny. There's the 579 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 5: microscope is on the officiating all the time. So they 580 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 5: just want to get it right. I mean, that's to play. 581 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 5: It was close. The rule is one yard right, you 582 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 5: can legally pick within a yard of the line of 583 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 5: scrimmage official through the flag. They talked about it. It's 584 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 5: where the contact occurs. I thought they should have left 585 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 5: the flag down. But you know, as far as narratives go, 586 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 5: that they're just trying to get the plays right and 587 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 5: they're not worried about you know which teams and over time, 588 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 5: and there's been studies that ESPN just did a deal 589 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 5: where they looked at the last however many years twenty 590 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 5: years at looking at penalties and the chiefs weren't on 591 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 5: the on the over that long a period. They it 592 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 5: wasn't like the chiefs were getting more calls than their 593 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 5: opponents or less calls. It tends to even out over time. 594 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 5: But the officials are just trying to go out and 595 00:28:58,320 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 5: do the best they can, and they're not worried about 596 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 5: narratives that are going out that around around the you 597 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 5: know the NFL. 598 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 4: Dean, I'm gonna switch gears on you. And and this 599 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 4: is you know, I'm a defender. It pains me to 600 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 4: have to watch the game be called the way that 601 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: it is. 602 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 3: The protection of the quarterbacks. 603 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 4: Can we get to a point on where we just say, 604 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 4: maybe you tag off on the quarterback, maybe you grab 605 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 4: a flag. I know we're promoting flag football. I mean, 606 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 4: but at some point when you see what what happened 607 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: with with with Granderson in that Saints Giants game, Uh, 608 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: Cam Jordan went off about it. A lot of guys 609 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 4: were incensed about it. How do you justify that play? 610 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 4: Even just some of the I've seen guys make make 611 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 4: hits on the quarterback, and even the way they are 612 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 4: allowed or able to fall is now being scrutinized very 613 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 4: very closely. But this one was so egregious. Can can 614 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 4: you give some clarity on the Carl Grandis and uh, 615 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 4: you know this sack on on the court on dark 616 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 4: that one. 617 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 5: Look, it's the only justification is that it happened fast. 618 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 5: The official looks at it and and and in in 619 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 5: their judgment thought it was a foul. It's not right, 620 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: It's just and we see some of these hits and 621 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 5: it's become increasingly it's more difficult to tackle the quarterback 622 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 5: today than it's ever been because, like you said, there's 623 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 5: you can't hit. You can't go to the headneck area, 624 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 5: and they're going to lean toward when it's close. It's 625 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 5: a foul. You can't go to the knee area below 626 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 5: you can when now when you even tackle the quarterback, 627 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 5: you have to get your body off to the side, 628 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 5: which which you know better than me. That's hard, always 629 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 5: easy to do exactly exactly. 630 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 3: You got to figure out how to. 631 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 5: Try to tackle like Josh Allen or or some of 632 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 5: these big quarterbacks and get them on the ground. It's 633 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 5: going to be hard to adjust your body. So I 634 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 5: think the league, the reality is the quarterback position does 635 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 5: put that player in a defenseless posture. Right, you focus 636 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 5: the downfield, so we get that part of it. It 637 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 5: is right. We look at what's happening in Baltimore with 638 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 5: Lamar out, look at what happens when when a quarterback 639 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 5: is out. Well, you know that this is such an 640 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 5: important position to the to the health of this game. 641 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 5: But I think we've gone overboard in some instances. I 642 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 5: really do. And that's and I don't think the league 643 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 5: is going to back down. I think they say, okay, well, 644 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 5: well we'll live with that. You know, a handful of 645 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 5: bad calls if it keeps our quarterbacks in the game. 646 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 5: But it's tough because that's a you know, it didn't 647 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 5: affect that game, but it could, and that that's a 648 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 5: you know, you want to go to your officials and 649 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 5: go what did you see? What what did you you know? 650 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 5: And then just correct that going forward because it just 651 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 5: wasn't a good call. 652 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 8: Uh. 653 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: The other play, I think a lot of fans, at 654 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 3: least on the Jacksonville Soyer frustrated by was the non 655 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: defensive PI call h Parker Washington who got blown up 656 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: by the Casey defender. Did you just take me through 657 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 3: what the officials like, seeing how they go about trying 658 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 3: to determine, you know, defensive pass interference in that case 659 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: or not. 660 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 661 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 5: I mean that's a tough one because it all happens 662 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 5: so quickly. It's a bang bang play. And you know 663 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 5: we just talked about like that pick play with on 664 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 5: the Kelsey touchdown. Okay, well, is the receiver initiating the contact? 665 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 5: Is the defender initiating the contact? Isn't just a collision 666 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 5: because of the route and the defender going to play 667 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 5: the ball. So there's a lot happening and it's such 668 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 5: a quick, a quick short window. So look, yes, when 669 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 5: you watch it on film, he makes contact before the 670 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 5: ball arrives, looks like he initiates it. It's it's a foul, 671 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 5: but you know in real time, and then you have 672 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 5: multiple officials. Each receiver at at the snap has one official. 673 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 5: Every eligible receiver has one official that starts with that 674 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 5: receiver right, and then and then depending on the routes 675 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 5: and depending on on how the players run, there could 676 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 5: be switches and they go they go man the zone 677 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 5: and then ball. In terms of the officiating part of it, 678 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 5: and uh and so it's tough and you have different 679 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 5: angles from different for different officials positions. So not again 680 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 5: not condoning that that oh they missed it, and it's 681 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 5: it's we got to get that call right. But still 682 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 5: it's it's it's easy to watch it on tape and go, well, 683 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 5: that's a foul versus live in real time, seen it 684 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 5: the first time from different angles, different officials, and becomes 685 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 5: you know, it's a tougher play to officiate. 686 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 4: Dane, I hate to do this and stay on this 687 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 4: whole theme of us defenders are are villainized and in 688 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 4: the way you guys call call games and stuff like that, 689 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 4: and how you will. But I'm going to ask this, 690 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 4: I will never understand. And this happened to me one time. 691 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 4: I remember I was trying to tackle Emmitt Smith, and 692 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 4: EMMITTT Smith grabbed me by my face mask, and so 693 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 4: I returned to favor and grabbed him by his and 694 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 4: we both went down to the ground. I got a 695 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 4: fifteen yard penalty for a face mask. 696 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 2: Why is it? 697 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 4: Why is it that a stiff arm is not the 698 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 4: same thing as a face mask? Why is there a 699 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 4: differentiation between a guy that gets his Like, Okay, you're 700 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,720 Speaker 4: grabbing me the stiff army and you've grabbed my face mask. Now, granted, 701 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 4: I know that the rules is that they should throw 702 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 4: the flag, but you and I both know the same 703 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 4: type of action you see from a running back or 704 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 4: a quarterback in their hand going to the face of 705 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 4: a defender. If the defender does that to an offensive player, 706 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 4: they get a flag that's automatic. 707 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: Why is that? 708 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you're absolutely right in that in that 709 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 5: the rule is the same for both. The stiff farmer 710 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 5: is legal, but if you grab the mask of the defender, 711 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 5: that should be called. It doesn't get called as much 712 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 5: as it happens, whereas the defender, so it's almost ninety 713 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 5: nine percent of the time that's going to get called. 714 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 5: And and this has been a discussion topic for the 715 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 5: Competition Committee, where you know, do you do you outlaw 716 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 5: the stiff farm because even right hands to the face, 717 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 5: if you go if a stiff farm, that same type 718 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 5: of action happens somewhere else. If it's an offensive lineman 719 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 5: block and the defensive lineman or vice versa with the 720 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 5: hands up to the that gets called hands to the face. 721 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 5: The stiff arm is legal. And the theory always was, 722 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 5: at least the Competition Committee and the conversation was that 723 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 5: the ball carrier, the runners, has to have an ability 724 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 5: to protect themselves to ward off, to try to to 725 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 5: try to break tackles. So they didn't want to put 726 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 5: that ball carrier at. 727 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 4: But the defender doesn't have the right to do the 728 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: same thing to protect themselves. 729 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 5: No, And that's and that is that is we we 730 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 5: talk about offensive and defensive balance, but the reality is 731 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 5: that the scales are always tipped. They're going to be 732 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 5: tipped to the offense. And that's one of those deals 733 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 5: where because we would see we'd see the stiff arm, 734 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 5: and they're plays where instead of grabbing the mask, the 735 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 5: defender just grabs whatever they can and they end up 736 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 5: with a horse callar and the horse collar gets called 737 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 5: and they don't call the mask. So it's it's tough. 738 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 5: I don't think I don't have a great answer. I 739 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 5: don't think the competition Committe has a great answer. I 740 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 5: think they keep the stiff arming the game other than 741 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 5: the officials have to call have to call it on 742 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 5: the runner when when he does grab the mask. But 743 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 5: you know that that doesn't get called as awesome like 744 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 5: I said, as it should. 745 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 2: Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL College Football rules Analyst, Always 746 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: a good time here on a Tuesday morning, Dean, hell 747 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: of a job. We'll do it again next week. Thanks you, Brady. 748 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 5: I still love you. 749 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: I love you, Dean. I wait to watch the video 750 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 3: where you gotta, you know, kind of run everything. 751 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 5: Back if you I'm doing the video this week, so 752 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 5: and that play will not be on there, so don't worry. 753 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing I don't understand is, like we 754 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 3: have you guys there as a resource. Pereiro is nowhere 755 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 3: to be found, and obviously you're with the DA crew, 756 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: so it's like I'm like, I rode An Island here, 757 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 3: try to figure this out. Wow, all right, No, you 758 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 3: just stated how it is. Man. I'm sorry. You can't 759 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 3: handle the truth. 760 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 5: You can now we're onto. Now we're onto fe good men. 761 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: Wow, you can't handle the truth. 762 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 5: All right, later guys,