1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Lisa Mattheo and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the latest development in the global 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 3: trade war. President Trump's tariffs will remain in place for now. 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 3: That's after an appeals court temporarily paused a ruling that 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: had blocked them. Derek Wallbank is our senior editor for 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: US Economics and Government. 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 4: This is going to work through the US legal process 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 4: in the meantime, though it has kind of complicated the 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 4: idea that the Trump administration in this ninety day pause 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 4: window was going and trying to do deals with individual countries. 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 4: We really haven't seen a ton of deals come through 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 4: with that. We've had the UK, a lot of others 15 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 4: are said to be maybe close or near, but haven't 16 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 4: gotten over the line well. 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Derek Wallbank says that despite the temporary the possibility 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: does remain that the appeals court could ultimately back the 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 3: original ruling and block President Trump's tariff policy. However, White 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: House official stress President Trump has options to pursue similar 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 3: tariffs through other authorities if appeals ultimately fall short. 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Lisa, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson says trade talks which 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: China are currently at a bit of a standstill. Besson 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: says a call may be required between President Trump and 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: Chinese President Xi Jinping in order to reach a deal. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 5: I would say that they are a bit stalled. I 27 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 5: believe that we will be having more talks with them 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 5: in the next few weeks, and I believe we may 29 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 5: at some point have a call between the President and 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 5: party chair she. 31 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: Treasury Secretary Scott Besson made the comments on Fox News. 32 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: President Trump had said he would speak to the Chinese 33 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 2: leader in the days after trade talks in mid May, 34 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: but that call has yet to materialize. 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: Careen tensions between the US and China may be growing 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: on another front. Reuter's is reporting President Trump is planning 37 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: to wrap up weapons sales to Taiwan to a level 38 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: exceeding the pay set during his first term. Reuter says 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: the new weapons packages are expected to focus on missiles, munitions, 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: and drones. 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: Lisa, the President met with fedhair J. Powell at the 42 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: White House for their first in person meeting since the inauguration. 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: The FED says the President invited Powell to discuss economic 44 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: developments for growth, employment, and inflation. White House Press Secretary 45 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 2: Caroline Levitt says Trump pushed Powell to lower interest rates. 46 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 6: The President did say that he believes the Fed chair 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 6: is making a mistake by not lowering interest rates, which 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 6: is putting us at an economic disadvantage to China in 49 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 6: other countries, and the President's been very vocal about that 50 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 6: both publicly and now I can reveal privately as well. 51 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: White House Press Secretary Caroline Levit says they did not 52 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: discuss whether Trump would seek to remove Powell from his role. 53 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: Powell's term as fedhare expires in May of next year. 54 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 3: Oh patident Trump will hold a news conference with Elon 55 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: Musk later today at the White House to mark Musk's 56 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 3: departure from DOGE. We get the latest from Bloomberg's John Tucker. 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 7: John and Lisa. The event gives an opportunity for the 58 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 7: President and his biggest campaign manufactor to dispel any notion 59 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 7: of an acrimonious divorce. In a post last night, President 60 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 7: Trump said this will be his last day, but not 61 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 7: really because he will always be with us helping all 62 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 7: the way. Elon is terrific In the past two weeks. 63 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 7: Musk has sworn off future political donations and also criticized 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 7: Trump's signature tax and spending cup proposal. The world's richest 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 7: man had already announced he was pulling back from the 66 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 7: so called Department of Government Efficiency in order to spend 67 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 7: more time running his various companies. His full exit comes 68 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 7: at a critical time for Tesla, which is set to 69 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 7: roll out full self driving cars and a robo taxi service. 70 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 7: La Mosca Vanda isn't the only thing on the President's schedule. 71 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 7: He's going to travel to US Steal today after announcing 72 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 7: a deal with Japan's Nippon Steal. On Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 73 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: All right, John, thank you about cash. President Trump and 74 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: Elon Musk comments live here on Bloomberg. Scheduled for one 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: thirty Wall Street time this afternoon on Bloomberg Radio, Bloomberg Television, 76 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: and the Bloomberg Podcast page on YouTube. 77 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 3: All right, we now turn to the latest developments in 78 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: the Middle East. Israel has accepted a USCAS fire proposal 79 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: for Gaza. It involves a sixty day pause in fighting 80 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 3: and restores you inlet a distribution to the enclave. 81 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 8: Now. 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 2: The proposal includes Hamas releasing ten live hostages and returning 83 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: the remains of eighteen who died in captivity, as well 84 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: as engaging in negotiations. 85 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: Toward a permanent end to the fighting. Hamas has criticized 86 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: the proposal as one sided and has not officially responded. 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: And to the markets now Lisa, where futures are lower 88 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: as we head into the last trading day of May, 89 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Traders are trying to navigate growing uncertainty about tariffs that 90 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 2: are mired in legal battles. Rebecca Patterson, a former chief 91 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: investment strategist at Bridgewater Associates. 92 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 9: But the tariff level we settle at, I believe will 93 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 9: still be significantly higher than where we were at the 94 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 9: beginning of the year. To me, at the end of 95 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 9: the day, we're going to have volatility continuing, and I 96 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 9: think we still have a bias of risk that US 97 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 9: bond yields government bond yields are sticky or biased higher, 98 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 9: and that is going to be something that acts as 99 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 9: a cap on equity sentiment. 100 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: Former chief investment strategist at Bridgewater Associates, Rebecca Patterson also 101 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: says investors will be paying close attention to a key 102 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 2: economic report this morning. It's the personal Consumption Expenditures Price 103 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: Index excluding food and energy, the Fed's preferred gauge of 104 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: underlying inflation, and Bloomberg Surveillance will bring you the numbers 105 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: with context alive at eight thirty Wall Street time on 106 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: Bloomberg Radio and the Bloomberg Podcast page on YouTube. 107 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 3: All Right, checking some stocks on the move this morning. 108 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: Shares of GAP. They're down almost fifteen percent in early trading. 109 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: Revenue fell at it's Banana, Republic and Athletic chains. Gap 110 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 3: estimates an impact of two hundred and fifty million into 111 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: three hundred million dollars from tariffs if their level remains 112 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 3: at thirty percent for most goods from China and ten 113 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: percent for other countries. 114 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: Costco reported better than expected earnings in the third quarter. Lisa, 115 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: the nation's the largest club chain, is taking steps to 116 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: navigate tariffs, including rerooting goods, sourcing most more locally produced items, 117 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: and examining potential price changes on an item by item basis. 118 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 2: And shares are down about four tenths of a percent 119 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 2: this morning. 120 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: All Right, And we're seeing impending tariffs impacting the luxury 121 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: watch market watch enthusiasts. They snapped up Rolex and protect 122 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: the leap time pieces. In late April. The watch dealer 123 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 3: Subdial says volume was one hundred and sixty percent higher 124 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: than normal trading levels. The growth is particularly strong in 125 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: the US and the UK. 126 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: Time now for a look at some of the other 127 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: stories making news in New York and around the world, 128 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael bar Michael, 129 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: good morning, Good. 130 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 10: Morning, Karen. The man who'd led the NYPD through the 131 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 10: deadliest domestic attack in US history, has as New York 132 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 10: City Police Commissioner. On nine to eleven, Bernard Carrick was 133 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 10: front and center. He spoke the next day, on September twelfth, 134 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 10: two thousand and one. 135 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 8: We want to get in there. We want to rescue 136 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 8: the people that are alive and well in there, but 137 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 8: we've also we have to do it safely, and we've 138 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 8: had an enormous problem with the structural damage because the 139 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 8: buildings keep collapsing. 140 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 10: Kerrick later pleaded guilty to tax fraud. In two thousand 141 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 10: and nine, FBI director Cash Betel posted on social media 142 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 10: that Carrick's death came after a private battle with illness. 143 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 10: Bernard Carrick was sixty nine. Two NPD officers, including a 144 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 10: detective on Mayor Eric Adams security detail have been placed 145 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 10: on modifying duty after authorities discovered their connection to two 146 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 10: crypto entrepreneurs charged with kidnapping and torturing an Italian tourist. 147 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 10: According to people with knowledge of the internal investigation, the 148 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 10: officers were working off duty for John Wols and William 149 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 10: de Plessi. Investigators are looking into allegations that the detective 150 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 10: transported to USTs to the location where he was held 151 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 10: captive for seventeen days in an upscale townhouse in Manhattan. 152 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 10: Prosecutors alleged Boston Duplessi tortured the victim to extract the 153 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,679 Speaker 10: password to his Bitcoin account. Harvard University President Alan Garber 154 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 10: emphasized the school's international reach at Thursday's commencement ceremony, amid 155 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 10: a battle with Trump administration officials over enrolling foreign students. 156 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 10: Garber's speech was met with a standing ovation. 157 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 11: Members of the class of twenty twenty five from down 158 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 11: the street, across the country, and around the world. 159 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 10: Global news twenty four hours a day and whenever you 160 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 10: want it with Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Michael Barrn. This 161 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 10: is Bloomberg. 162 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 2: Karen, all right, Michael barr Thank you time now for 163 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Sports Update. Here's John stash Hour. John, good morning. 164 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: Do you want to here? In It's next season that 165 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: saw them win fifty one games advance further in the 166 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: playoffs if they hadn't twenty five years, No Nick player 167 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: or a fan wanted it to end on the Guarden floor, 168 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: where they have struggled in the playoffs. As Game five 169 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: wound down, Nick victory was secure. 170 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 9: Pace has had their. 171 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 10: Chases within ten, the third, within twelve of the fourth, 172 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 10: New York. 173 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 9: Responding on runs each time. And the New York Knicks 174 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 9: have looked delimination. 175 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: In the eye and they are alive and kicking. And 176 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: now the series to game six in Indy, with the 177 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: Pacer lead cut three games to two on TNT, Knicks 178 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: never trailed, built up a twenty two point lead third quarter, 179 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: and Pacers never got it down to single digits. Next 180 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: one one to eleven ninety four. In the Battle of 181 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: the All Star point guards, Jalen Brunson this time dominated 182 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: Tymes Halliburton. Brunson scored thirty two points. That's his twenty 183 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: first career playoff game at least thirty. Haliburton went from 184 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: thirty two points In that Pacers Game four win down 185 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: to eight, he went from a triple double to a 186 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: triple single, six assists, two rebounds. Still a long way 187 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: to go for the Knicks to become the fourteenth team 188 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: in NBA history to win a series after trillion three 189 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: to one, but they live to play Game six tomorrow 190 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: for the sixth time in Stanley Cup playoff history, the 191 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: same two teams we'll meet in consecutive finals. Florida beat 192 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Edmonton a year ago in a Game seven. They'll start 193 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: this series next Wednesday in Edmonton. The Oilers wrapped up 194 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: the West with a six to three win at Dallas, 195 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: winning the series for to one. The marquee series of 196 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: the baseball season starts tonight in La Yankees and Dodgers 197 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, Shohei Otani a World Series rematch, and the 198 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: Yanks come in red hot five straight wins, nine to 199 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: the last ten, sixteen to the last twenty, and they'll 200 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: have Max Freed on the mount tonight. He's seven to zero. 201 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: His ERA is one point twenty nine. Mets Tonight host 202 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: the Rockies, who are nine to forty seven, three and 203 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: twenty five on the row. They've been outscored by one 204 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five runs the Nationals with a six 205 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: run ten to eight to win nine three. At Seattle, 206 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: Phillies and Braves split a doubleheader of the Phillies two 207 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: games ahead of the Mets. Frt Jopins second round victories 208 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: for Novak Djokovic going for his twenty fifth career Grand Slam. 209 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: Also Top Seedyonick Center and Coco Golop. Third round begins today, 210 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: John Stashaware Bloomberg Sports count and then. 211 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 12: Lisa Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 212 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 12: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 213 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 12: Bloomberg Business app. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 214 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: It is five twelve on Wall Street. Now to the 215 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: latest in the Trump Administration's battle to keep control of 216 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 3: global terrorists. This is after a pair of court decisions 217 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: try and block it for more. We are joined by 218 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 3: Bloomberg News Senior editor Bill Ferries. Bill, thanks for joining us. 219 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 3: The headlines coming in fast and furious yesterday. Most recently, though, 220 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 3: the Federal Appeals Court has allowed the President's tariffs sustain 221 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: effect for now, so it's temporary. Comes after the Trump administration, 222 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: they threaten to go to the Supreme Court. So if 223 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: you could tell us what kind of signal is this 224 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 3: latest move and how long is this order going to last? 225 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 11: Yeah, it seems like day where we're reacting to something 226 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 11: completely different. And the White House right now really celebrating 227 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 11: this decision by the Appeals Court to temporarily halt that 228 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 11: decision by the US Trade Court. That Trade Court had 229 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 11: basically said most of President Trump's tariffs that he's enacted 230 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 11: since January were illegal and had to be taken care 231 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 11: of eliminated within ten days. This Appeals Court had just 232 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 11: basically put the brakes on that. They said, hold on, 233 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 11: we need more time to assess this. We will leave 234 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 11: things as they are now. The challenge here is no 235 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 11: one really knows what that Appeals court final decision will 236 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 11: be like. They could still rule against the White House 237 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 11: and against the Trump administration on these tariffs. The White 238 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 11: House has already said it would be willing to take 239 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 11: this all the way to the Supreme Court. I think 240 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 11: almost no matter what happens, this will be a Supreme 241 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 11: Court decision. The White House is really committed to this 242 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 11: tariff policy, and they say that even if they lose 243 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 11: at the Supreme Court, they have other tools at their 244 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 11: disposal to make sure their focus on tariffs continues. 245 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: And what are some of those tools, because we heard 246 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: White House Trade advisor Peter n'vauer. He told Bloomberg yesterday 247 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: that it doesn't change things. This court decisions and the 248 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: president has other options. What are these options? 249 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 11: Well, it's true there are other options. I mean some 250 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 11: of the Section three ZHO one tariffs that that the 251 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 11: President put in place in his first term against China, 252 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 11: those are still there. Those are still in place. The 253 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 11: challenge is the White House chose this path declaring a 254 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 11: national emergency to impose these tariffs because it was the 255 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 11: fastest and easiest way to get their policies in place. 256 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 11: If that's not the tool they have, there are other 257 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 11: legislative options, but the challenge is they take more time, 258 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 11: they may not be permanent. They're also going to be 259 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 11: subject to legal cases. So declaring a national emergency and 260 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 11: putting in a ten percent tariff is something the President 261 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 11: felt like he could do right away. If you're using 262 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 11: some of these other options, it might take up to 263 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 11: two hundred and seventy days for an investigation to take place. 264 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 11: You might only be able to have them in place 265 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 11: for five months, so they're much much more restrictive. I 266 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 11: think the White House is hoping to avoid that option. 267 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 3: So all these options, and you mentioned the Supreme Court 268 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: too and everything, how far does the president's power stretch? 269 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 11: Well, the big question here is, you know, and the 270 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 11: issue the Trade Court raised was listen, you're saying there's 271 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 11: a national emergency because of the arrival of fentanyl within 272 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 11: the US, and you're saying there's a national emergency because 273 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 11: of the US trade deficits. The court ruled those may 274 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 11: be problems for the United States, but they aren't the 275 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 11: kind of national emergency that allows you to just slap 276 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 11: tariffs across the board on every country, even if the 277 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 11: issue you're talking about isn't really related to those countries. 278 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 11: That's the question before the courts. Now we're going to 279 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 11: see whether that's a power that the Supreme Court and 280 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 11: the Appeals Court believe the president should have. 281 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 3: All right, and does this take away any le wide 282 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: from his team as they continue with trade negotiations coming up. 283 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 11: Well, yeah, we're right in the middle of all those. 284 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 11: We're in the back half actually of those delayed reciprocal 285 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 11: tariff negotiations that's going to be continuing. We heard from 286 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 11: Scott Bessant over the last day that trade talks with 287 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 11: China seem to have stalled a little bit. It's hard 288 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 11: to know. If you're a foreign government and you're going 289 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 11: in you have to make the assumption that the White 290 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 11: House is going to keep pushing on tariffs one way 291 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 11: or the other. But it does look like they've lost 292 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 11: a little bit of their leverage. 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