1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: and Book Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon and 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: I'm glad you're joining me today. Today we're talking about 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 2: something interesting. 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 3: I think online ordering. 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: You probably get sucked into ordering your products online or 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 2: your clothing online, which you pretty much have to these days, 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,159 Speaker 2: because if you're going to buy anything, it's got to 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: be online. And this is hard for me. I have 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: to admit, I am a mall girl. I grew up 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: going to the mall. The mall when I was a 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: kid was actually more than just going to buy things. 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: It was a social place. You went to the mall 15 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: to see boys, to talk to friends, to just hang out. 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 2: And so I'm really kind of sad that the mall 17 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: doesn't exist anymore. And I'm terrible at online ordering, specially clothes. 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 3: One time, I had to have a. 19 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: Suit, so I wanted a suit that was more of 20 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: a dress, that could had like a suit with a skirt. 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: Right, So I went on Amazon on and I found 22 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: this what I thought was. 23 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: The perfect business suit to wear to something that I 24 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 2: had to go to the day. 25 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: It was coming to my house. You all know what 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: this is. Like. 27 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure I'm not the only person that last minute buys, 28 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 2: but I am like an habitual last minute purchaser. And 29 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: that's why another reason I like them all you can 30 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: try your stuff on. 31 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: So I found the suit. It looked great online, it 32 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: looked great. 33 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: It comes to my house and I swear it was 34 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: a suit coat that was attached to the whole outfit. 35 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: Was like a costume of a suit. 36 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 2: It was the shirt was a part of the suit coat, 37 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: and the skirt was a part of the entire suit, 38 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: and it was made out of this like heavy swimsuit material. 39 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: So it was almost like I could go to a 40 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: business meeting and then swim afterward, like I was sort 41 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: of like a business person hero, like a superhero business person. 42 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: But it was completely awful. It looked terrible. 43 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: So I need help from my guests today, not just 44 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: for that, but also to find the right places to 45 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: buy my products, because, as you've probably also noticed, anymore, 46 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: the businesses that you're used to buying from, they no 47 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 2: longer really represent you. I mean, it's hard to find 48 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: places to even take my daughters where they can see 49 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: someone that they look up to or that they think 50 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: they might look like one day because no longer do 51 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: they advertise to women or men, and it's become a challenge. 52 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: So my guest today, they have a solution for that. 53 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: It is the Public Square. Public Square founder and CEO 54 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: Michael Seifert and Columbia Acquisition Corporation Chairman and CEO Ohmed Malik. 55 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 3: Welcome to the podcast. Thank you so much for joining me. 56 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: Help me with this online purchasing stuff because I'm really 57 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: really bad at it. 58 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 4: I don't know if we sell swimsuit business, but that 59 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: will certainly add that to the roster. 60 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: No, don't, it's terrible. 61 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: I've never heard of that apparel choice. 62 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: But I can tell you that if you're looking for 63 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 4: a very quality suit, if you're looking for a very 64 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 4: quality swimsuit, we have both of those things, and you 65 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: know what's cool. Tutor, First of all, thank you so 66 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: much for having us on. Secondly, we are driven by 67 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 4: a desire to meet the needs of consumers for their 68 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: simple everyday household items or getting a new suit, getting 69 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 4: a nice pair of pants, whatever you're looking for. But 70 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 4: with one important facet of every transaction, we want to 71 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 4: ensure that if you love your country and if you 72 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: love truth and reason, and if you love family values, 73 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: that you have a marketplace that can serve you in 74 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: your purchases meeting today, if you go into Target, or 75 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: if you go to any of these major retailers and 76 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: you look to buy a suit, you look to buy 77 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: a pair of clothing, whatever you're looking for, they are 78 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: going to lecture you about things like gender, ideology, about 79 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 4: political views. 80 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: And it's become way too much. 81 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: We're seeing this with bud Light, we're seeing with Nike, 82 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: we're seeing with Lululemon. And it's very hard today to 83 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 4: find a source of quality products that refuse to lecture 84 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 4: you about these things in the purchasing of their products. 85 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 4: So what we've decided to do is create the nation's 86 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 4: largest marketplace of lots of different storefronts and businesses that 87 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: are all a fifty thousand plus act actually, that are 88 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: all driven toward a common purpose to provide quality products 89 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 4: and services that align with the values that have made. 90 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: This country so special in the first place. 91 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: So that you can know with a blessed assurance that 92 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 4: you're not funding companies that are acting anathetically. 93 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: To the United States. And so that's what we've done 94 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: in public square. 95 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: If that is the plan and people know that's the plan, 96 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: and these companies know that's the plan on the public square, 97 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: is it hard to find companies to join? 98 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: Because, I mean, I feel like. 99 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: It's been such a major attack against conservative values. But 100 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 2: also this is just it's pushed in our faces constantly. 101 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: It's not about the product anymore. It's about whether or 102 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: not you align with this ideology of the companies. So 103 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: how do you find companies that say, yeah, I want 104 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: to be associated with conservatives because that's also seemingly a 105 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: dirty word now. I mean, we've been talking to other 106 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: folks about the deep platforming that conservatives go through. When 107 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: you're a conservative company, you can be kicked out of 108 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: your bank, you can be kicked out of your online 109 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: purchasing system. That it's really hard to openly admit you 110 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: have those values. How do you find folks? 111 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 5: So, Tudor, I'll just say that what you just described 112 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 5: is the reason why I wanted to take this company public. 113 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 5: You hit the nail on the head. I actually think 114 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 5: that we've seen like an infringement of liberty at the 115 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 5: political level is what's happening in certain states, and obviously 116 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 5: at this federal government, but it's now expanded to exactly 117 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 5: what you're saying. You're seeing purportedly private companies violate our 118 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 5: constitutional protections constantly, whether it's around speech or even our 119 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 5: ability to conduct commerce. You know, as you said, conservers 120 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 5: are losing their bank accounts, they're being fined by payment processors. 121 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 5: That was the angle as a financier that I looked 122 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 5: at it at and said, this is a huge, huge problem. 123 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 5: We can continue to have free states, but if we 124 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 5: can't conduct commerce, we're not actually free. And the last 125 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 5: part of it is I actually think their intent is 126 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 5: to have it much more like China, where you have 127 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 5: social credit scores. If you don't bank appropriately in that country, 128 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 5: you can't get insurance, you can't get a bank account. 129 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 5: And I definitely think this is where it's headed. So 130 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 5: what you have just set up is exactly why it 131 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 5: is an absolute duty for people who believe in the 132 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 5: Bill of Rights to support companies like Public Square. So 133 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 5: this is more than just a business transaction. It is 134 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 5: definitely that. And we're really excited to take it public 135 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 5: and allow regular Americans to own the stock because we 136 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 5: don't have a lot of public companies listed that support us, 137 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 5: as you just pointed out, but it's also a way 138 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 5: to insulate ourselves from the affront that you started to describe. 139 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 5: We can only be free if we start putting ourselves 140 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 5: out there in the private marketplace as well. We've ceeded 141 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 5: the private space to the other side entirely. They control 142 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 5: all the big tech companies that now run our lives. 143 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 5: I would equate it for students of history to how 144 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 5: the railroads used to be. They used to be controlled 145 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 5: by just a few oligarchs and then you finally had 146 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 5: to have them busted up. The modern day railroads are 147 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 5: basically big tech and all these businesses that control our 148 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 5: daily lives, and we're nowhere. So that said, here's the 149 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: hopeful part. There's over one hundred million of us in 150 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 5: this country, so there's a lot of us. And we 151 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 5: basically quantified that as the third largest economy by GDP, 152 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 5: and no one's selling to them. So think about that. 153 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: The third largest. 154 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 5: Country by GDP of an economy is right here in America, 155 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 5: and it's Red America. And so it's a huge opportunity. 156 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 5: And so I'll turn over to Michael'll talk about how 157 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 5: he's finding all these businesses by the way, many of 158 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 5: which are medium in small sized businesses that were destroyed 159 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 5: during the COVID lockdowns. So this is another way to 160 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 5: stop that wealth transfer that took place in our country 161 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 5: to big tech during the lockdowns and give it back 162 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 5: to the people the middle class. 163 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, tutor, we certainly appreciate your stance during the COVID 164 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: season of making sure that everyone knew that they were essential. 165 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: Everyone is essential, everybody's job was essential. And what happened 166 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 4: the corrupt actions of our federal government and many state 167 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 4: governments around the country to start categorizing our economy based 168 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 4: upon essential and non essential businesses. It was one of 169 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: the greatest crimes against humanity I've witnessed in a long time, 170 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 4: because what it did is it made this sort of fascist, 171 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 4: oligarchic society emerge, where if you're a business and you 172 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 4: are willing to parrot the message of the government, you'll 173 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 4: receive special favors. So you had some businesses that were 174 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: willing to do what the government would say, and they 175 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 4: were deemed essential. But if you had a business that 176 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 4: spoke out too much or wanted to honor the freedoms 177 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 4: of their consumers, they were deemed not Essential, even though 178 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: they were providing the same services. 179 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: We got our start during COVID. 180 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 4: That season was really inspirational for us to start this company, 181 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 4: because while we have witnessed corporate America going largely hyper 182 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 4: progressive over the last decade, COVID was sort of the 183 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 4: straw that broke the camel's back for us. What we 184 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: have learned, and this is really the heart of your question, 185 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: is that when we took a chance with this company, 186 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 4: believing that there would be this market that was ready 187 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: for us and a group of consumers that were hungry 188 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 4: enough to spend their money on the platform of their values, 189 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: it was sort of a question mark as to how 190 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 4: receptive will businesses be. I have been blown away. I 191 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: expectations have been blown out of the water. Every single 192 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: day we are seeing hundreds of new business vendors sign 193 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: up from all different industries. If you're looking for a bank, 194 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: healthcare institutions, insurance providers, clothing shops, coffee store. I mean, 195 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 4: it's just amazing to witness the myriad. The shoes I'm 196 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: wearing right now are from a great public square business. 197 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: My tie is from a public square business. If you 198 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 4: are looking to unsubscribe from the corrupt system that has 199 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 4: tried to convince you that there are only a few 200 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 4: businesses you have the ability to choose from, and they've 201 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 4: tried to convince you to forget small business America. We 202 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: are here with the opposite message, which is that over 203 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: ninety percent of our marketplace today, fifty thousand plus vendors 204 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: are small businesses. They make our country special. They're going 205 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 4: to serve your needs with quality at the forefront, and 206 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 4: you can know that you're not going to live under 207 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 4: the threat of cancelation or under political lecturing in the process. 208 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: The movement is growing, and I guarantee you too, Tutor, 209 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: that you will have people after this podcast here, this 210 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 4: great show, that will sign up as businesses and say, hey, 211 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 4: we want our voice to be heard, we want to 212 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 4: join the movement. That's what happens anytime we have media 213 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 4: like this, and it's so cool to win us. How 214 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: the businesses are actually seeing a liberating market experience because 215 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,719 Speaker 4: they're getting to live out their values and let these 216 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 4: consumers know the right. 217 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: But they're also seeing a lucrative one. 218 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: Their profits are increasing through their presence on the platform, 219 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: and that's the sweetest thing of all. 220 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: So how do you stay in business though you must 221 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: have to bank. You also have an app? How do 222 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 2: you stay on the app store? How do you know 223 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: that that is guaranteed? Because it seems as though the 224 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: leftist once they feel threatened, they figure out a way 225 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: to get you canceled. And now you talked about a 226 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: social credit score. I'm not sure everybody totally understands what 227 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: that means and what happens in places like China where 228 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 2: your social credit goes down. And that can be for 229 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: an individual, that can be for a business, but eventually 230 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: your entire life. 231 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: You can be stopped from doing anything. And if you 232 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 3: think about how. 233 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: Much today of our lives are interacting online. 234 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: I mean your email is online. 235 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: You can have your email server taken away, your phone 236 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 2: can be shut down, and essentially you can be blocked 237 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: from getting apps. Over time, you can be block from banking. 238 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: All of these things that happen in China could come here. 239 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: So how do you get around that at your company? 240 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 5: I'll just make a separate point and then we're going 241 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 5: to talk specifically about what Michael's doing. So one of 242 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 5: the ways that we're trying to do is we also 243 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 5: have a fund called seventeen eighty nine capital that is 244 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 5: trying to finance exactly the kinds of businesses that you're describing, 245 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 5: the reason why we had to take Public Square public, though, 246 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 5: is if you think that we need this new economy, 247 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 5: which I know we all agree on and we know 248 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 5: there's demand for it, the foundation of a new economy 249 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 5: always has to be in exchange, which is how do 250 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 5: buyers and sellers find each other. Public Square is effectively 251 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 5: the Amazon for us, okay, and that's the central linchpin 252 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 5: of an economy. So he kind of has to be 253 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 5: first because we can have a lot of pillow companies 254 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 5: and coffee companies, but if they can't find the customer, 255 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 5: that's only like one monoline product. Everybody can find everybody 256 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 5: on this We don't need to just shoot bud Light cans, 257 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 5: as funny as that is. We can actually go buy 258 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 5: a beer that we like and you can find on 259 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 5: his app he had an eight hundred percent increase on 260 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 5: beer after that happened with bud Light. So what we 261 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 5: are going to do simultaneously to taking this company public 262 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 5: and then have the people have the opportunity to support 263 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 5: it by buying the stock, making it as powerful as 264 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 5: some of these other businesses you're talking about is step one, 265 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 5: but we actually have to finance an entirely replicated economy 266 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 5: simultaneously so that they can't do the types of things 267 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 5: you're talking about. So when you're talking about the plumbing 268 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 5: of the Internet, which you've rightfully pointed out is. 269 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: Where we're vulnerable. 270 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 5: Web hosts, payment processors, all of those things have to 271 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 5: have a free speech oriented business that we will finance 272 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 5: and start ourselves. We cannot rely on the other side 273 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 5: because then we're seeding. 274 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: All of our power. 275 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 5: It's exactly why you saw another company more in this 276 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 5: speech area called rumbole Go Public, which is an alternative 277 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 5: as I'm sure you're familiar to YouTube because YouTube by Google, 278 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 5: which I hope most people know. And that's why during 279 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 5: COVID you couldn't see any alternate views on what was 280 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 5: actually going on during that period of time, and they 281 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 5: were to get misinformation. But almost all of those things 282 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 5: now have come true that they were censoring, and that's 283 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 5: a horrifying prospect. And so this is America waking up. 284 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 5: To Michael's point, as just a regular American during COVID, 285 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 5: his eyes were open, and that's what this was a 286 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 5: solution to So we definitely need to get a lot smarter. 287 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 5: It's very important we're talking about. People need to understand 288 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 5: what's going on in China because not only are there 289 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 5: are enemies, they want us to live like that. They 290 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 5: don't have it R rights in China, so most people 291 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 5: don't even know. They don't even have a bill of 292 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 5: rights in the United Kingdom, and that's like our closest ally. 293 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 5: That's what makes America so special is a bill of rights, 294 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 5: emphasis on family and a robust middle class. That's how 295 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 5: you have an actual democracy. So think about the things 296 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 5: that are being attacked right now. It's the middle class, 297 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 5: it's the family, and it's our bill of rights. 298 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: That's what we have to. 299 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 5: Protect and that's part of the solution. So I'll turn 300 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 5: it over to some of the steps you're taking. 301 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: Well, you asked a great question, which is how are 302 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: we ourselves staying protected amidst this rather chaotic economic environment 303 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 4: where many acts seemed to be acting very opposed to us. 304 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: And I'll say that we're trying to practice what we 305 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: preach as best as we can by utilizing our own network. 306 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 4: What's very cool is that we bank, for example, with 307 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 4: a bank that we found on our own platform, and 308 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 4: so when we had Chase threatened to cancel us because 309 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: they were questioning us on our conservative views, which actually happened, 310 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 4: we immediate. 311 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,359 Speaker 2: Are you seriously? I mean they really came after that. Specifically, 312 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: our bank called. 313 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: Us in the fall of twenty twenty one when we 314 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 4: were just getting started, and they asked us, hey, we're 315 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: a little concerned about this conservative messaging. Can you tell 316 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: us more about that? We said, absolutely not. You're our 317 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: financial institute. We should not want even the authority to 318 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 4: ask us. 319 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: That you are our you're our. 320 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: Service provider, not the other way around. We don't owe 321 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 4: you anything, and so. 322 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: We actually left them. We closed our accounts with them immediately. 323 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: We found a. 324 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: Bank that's on our own app and we utilize that 325 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: for all of our business banking. We still use them today, 326 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: Axos Bank. Axos. They're great, and so we know the 327 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 4: blessed assurance that for somebody did the different facets of 328 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: our business. We're covered because we have people that you 329 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: know what, I'll throw out another name there that's been 330 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 4: really great to us, and it's an awesome SMS provider. 331 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: That helps us with push notifications and things. They're called Brace. 332 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 4: They're a big provider and they're not necessarily with us politically, 333 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: but they're not against us. And they said, you know what, 334 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 4: we actually respect your right to do business, and we're 335 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 4: proud to partner with you, regardless of your views about things, 336 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: because we would do the same for the other side, 337 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: and we want you to know that we're happy to 338 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 4: help you. And so there are amazing businesses like that 339 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: as well that they maybe necessarily wouldn't be on our platform, 340 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: but what they would say is that we're not going 341 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: to cancel you because of your political views. 342 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: We're glad to have your business. 343 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 4: And so what we're really doing today is we're shifting 344 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 4: the way the economy is working. We're putting money back 345 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: in the hands of we the people, were allowing them 346 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 4: to have a voice again. And we're doing that because 347 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: we are those consumers. That's my wife and I, that's 348 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 4: O Meat and his family. I mean, that's that we're 349 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: the people that we built this up for. And I 350 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 4: will tell you that thankfully, communities around the country are 351 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 4: changing one public square business set a time. 352 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 353 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So you just launched this nationwide 354 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: nine months ago. Now people are probably saying, okay, how 355 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 2: many people, how many vendors could they really have? But 356 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: you've amassed quite a few vendors in this site. 357 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: Is that true? 358 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 4: Over fifty thousand and not only that, we have tripled 359 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 4: in growth from January on our daily unique sessions on 360 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 4: the platform. 361 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: So we're seeing a. 362 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: Lot of usage uptick over the course of the past 363 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: few months as the platform continues to grow and evolve 364 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 4: and more consumers and businesses are joining. 365 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: So it's pretty neat. 366 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: To watch the way the marketplace is compounding because people 367 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 4: feel connected again, they don't feel alone anymore. In fact, 368 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 4: there was one lady that reached out recently that said, Hey, 369 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: I feel like I have six thousand new friends because 370 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 4: I am connected to this community in my state that 371 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 4: I can really feel proud to stand behind. So that's 372 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 4: at the heart of all of this is that we 373 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 4: want to feel like we're represented. We don't want to 374 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: feel alone, and we want to know that we're not 375 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 4: spending money on abortion when I'm just trying to buy 376 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 4: a cup of coffee, and when we can meet other 377 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: people that have that same desire, it creates a cool 378 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 4: network effect. 379 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: When I'm on the app, it will say this brand 380 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: is not supporting your values because and you should use 381 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 2: this brand instead. So how often is that the case 382 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: if somebody is looking for something, does it point out 383 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: this is why or how does that always work? 384 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: That's a great question. We have what are called by 385 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 1: ditch campaigns. 386 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: I'm only a fan of a boycott if there's an 387 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: alternative that you can go to. I'm not a fan 388 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: of a boycott just for a political move. I would 389 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 4: rather there be action associated with it. That's our stance 390 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 4: on these things. And so what we'll do often is 391 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 4: if you join the app, if you download it from 392 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 4: the App Store, a Google player, you had to public 393 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 4: sq dot com, you're going to see on our featured page, 394 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 4: which is basically our highest quality content we display to people. 395 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: It shifts by the day and it's great and fresh. 396 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 4: You're going to see things called by ditch campaigns, where 397 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: we'll show you an example of a company that has 398 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 4: abused our values and then we'll show you alternative that 399 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 4: you should go to. So, for example, last week we 400 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: highlight highlighted tamp acts that were utilizing Dylan mulvaney a 401 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 4: biological mail to endorse their tampons. We said, you should 402 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: probably ditch them because it feels like they've lost the 403 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 4: narrative here and you should instead go to this company 404 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 4: called Garnu, which is a fantastic company that's on our 405 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 4: platform that respects the identity of women and wants to 406 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 4: know that they're protected. And so we have all different 407 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: industries where we'll showcase. Hey, here's an example you shouldn't 408 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 4: go to, but we want to be action oriented. You 409 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 4: should go here instead because they're proud to stand with 410 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 4: you and your values. They're not going to cancel you. 411 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 4: And what's very neat too, is then a majority of 412 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: time that I'll actually give discounts to consumers for shopping there, 413 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: so you can receive incentive for spending money in alignment 414 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: with your values. 415 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: Does anyone know who feel ins asient is? 416 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 6: By the way, because I want yeah, right, that's what 417 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 6: we need to know. I mean, think about that alone 418 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 6: when I see that, because obviously I have a bunch 419 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 6: of preteen girls in my house. 420 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: I've got four daughters, and that that's their market. It 421 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: is not the twenty five year old or the thirty 422 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: year old, because they're pretty set in their ways by 423 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: that point. They know what products they use, so their 424 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: market is these young girls. And when I was a kid, 425 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: tampon and Maxi Pad commercials that would come on and 426 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 2: they would kind of explain what it was like to 427 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: be in the school day and what you needed and 428 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: how that worked. And now you don't talk about how 429 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: it works at all, because where's Dylan putting it. 430 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: I mean, he doesn't know how it works. 431 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 6: You know. 432 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: Now it's just a fad and that's not what young 433 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 2: girls need because I see my daughters right now. They 434 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 2: have a lot of questions and the brands are not 435 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: answering those questions. And obviously those questions come from home 436 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: as well. I mean mom goes through and talks to 437 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: them about that. But in some cases, Mom's not there, 438 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: and that means you need to find a vendor that 439 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: you trust that is going to talk directly to you. 440 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: But I mean, how did. 441 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: This happen that you have someone like a Dylan mulvaney 442 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: coming out and talking about tampons. But also I mean 443 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: even Nike coming out and kind of making a mockery 444 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: of women saying, oh, I'm working out, but it's it's 445 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: not a workout, and certainly there's no need for support 446 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 2: there on a sports bras. So what are they saying 447 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: to their clientele and how many How has that driven 448 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: people to you because you talked about bud Light too. 449 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: You talked about beer suddenly going wild on your site 450 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: after bud Light. So how do you think that's affecting 451 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: the majority of consumers, Because if we're listening to what 452 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: people are saying on the news, I mean, if you're 453 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 2: listening to Chuck Todd, everybody loves this stuff and we 454 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: have to continue it, but it seems as though the 455 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 2: silent folks are saying, I'd rather buy from someone who 456 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: gets what I need. 457 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 5: When the Framers were working on our foundational documents in 458 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 5: this country, they worried about what was called tyranny of 459 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 5: the majority. What we have now is trinity of the minority. 460 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 5: So exactly the opposite of what they thought was going 461 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 5: to happen has happened here. We have a small, very 462 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 5: vogue class of people that are trying to dramatically change 463 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 5: culture for the worse, and it is not adopted by 464 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 5: most people. And we have to ask ourselves where these 465 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 5: kind of moral panics are coming from. So I think 466 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 5: a lot about these issues and talk about them, so 467 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 5: I do have a view. I think what you're describing 468 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 5: these corporations doing, just like you're seeing at the university level, 469 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 5: is a form of indoctrination. It's not as innocent as 470 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 5: just having somebody there who's easy to lampoon. There's something 471 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 5: much more serious and sinister going on, and I think 472 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 5: it goes back to one of the attacks on the 473 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 5: three prongs I mentioned, which is that of family. Every 474 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 5: authoritarian movement that wants government dependence has to first dismantle 475 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 5: the family, and so kinds of movements are meant to 476 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 5: disrupt the nuclear family, which is just like the middle class, 477 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,439 Speaker 5: a bulwark against authoritarianism. 478 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: So that is. 479 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 5: Why this is happening. It is being done at the 480 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 5: behest of certain folks that don't share the values we're 481 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 5: talking about, at the top, that have a lot of power, 482 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 5: but it's also being done by our explicit enemies like 483 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 5: the Chinese Communist Party. So, for example, look at a 484 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 5: product like TikTok. It is absolutely pathetic that as a 485 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 5: country we don't have the fortitude to ban that. It 486 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 5: is a digital trojan horse that's been sent in here 487 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 5: as kind of a modern day opium war against the 488 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 5: United States as Revengel we did to them several hundred 489 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 5: years ago. What it is doing is promoting these kinds 490 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 5: of things to young impressionable children. And at the same time, 491 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 5: the app at home in China shuts off after a 492 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 5: few hours so they can't be on it all day 493 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 5: and teaches them math and science. Here they're telling our 494 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 5: children to do dangerous challenges that can be life threatening. 495 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 5: It encourages them to engage in horrible behavior that they 496 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 5: then save on Chinese servers to potentially use as blackmail 497 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 5: when they get earlier. 498 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:51,959 Speaker 1: Older. 499 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 5: And then what we just talked about with some of 500 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 5: these perverted things that are pushing on young impressionable kids, 501 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 5: I would just say that the CIA doesn't have a 502 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 5: monopoly on sectarian violence abroad. Other people can figure out 503 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 5: how to cause issues in our country too, and they're 504 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 5: doing that at the family level. 505 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: Why are we so afraid though, of coming out and 506 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 2: saying this. I mean, I heard a young conservative just 507 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: earlier today on the news come out and say, you 508 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 2: know I'm doing I'm working for I don't know, one 509 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: of the big conservative networks for the political world, and 510 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 2: they asked him, well, what do you think about the 511 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: ban on TikTok? And he said, well, I mean, right now, 512 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: we just have conservatives who aren't on TikTok and Democrats 513 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 2: are doing a great job of reaching kids there, and 514 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: I think that we need we need. 515 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 3: To be there. 516 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: How do you how do you first of all get 517 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 2: across to adult lawmakers, but then battle it when adult 518 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,439 Speaker 2: lawmakers don't see the need for national security. I mean, really, 519 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: I have talked to people about the threat of China 520 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 2: and it's as if they just have no idea that 521 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: there is a superpower out there that is a danger 522 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 2: to us. And really, I say that because they now 523 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 2: have the largest navy in the world, they are a 524 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: powerhouse when it comes to manufacturing and shipping and making 525 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: a ton of money off of other countries. They've overtaken 526 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 2: us in both of those areas, and it seems as 527 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: though we're just acting like, oh huh, what could possibly 528 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 2: happen to us? Oh oh, look at that balloon that 529 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: just floated by How sweet? I mean, we are not 530 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: taking this seriously. So how do we convince people you 531 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: have got to be smart consumers and go to places 532 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: that are going to protect not only your interests, not 533 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: only your family, but the national interest, national security. 534 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 5: I'm going to turn over to Michael on the specific 535 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 5: solution there because it's such a good framing. We talked 536 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 5: about liberty at the beginning, but this has now become 537 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 5: a national security issue. When was the last time a 538 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 5: major Hollywood picture depicted the Chinese in a negative way. 539 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 5: I don't think anybody in this room can think of one, 540 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 5: and I'll tell you it was about two thousand and one, 541 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 5: with a movie called Red Corner starring Richard Gear. Richard 542 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 5: Gear doesn't have a career anymore Hollywood and major production 543 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 5: companies because he's anti China. They have bought off our culture. 544 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 5: So we like to say that politics is downstream from culture. 545 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 5: The reason that most Americans don't know any of this. 546 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 5: It's not like when I grew up watching Rocky for Rambo, 547 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 5: I knew the Soviets were a problem, and we on 548 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 5: that because Hollywood at that point was actually acting in 549 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 5: the interests of our country. Now, Hollywood, academia and other 550 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 5: indoctrination centers have been completely bought off by the Chinese 551 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 5: Communist Party because they knew that our allegiance to money 552 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: is more important than anything else. 553 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: So we have to have you got Lebron James supporting them, Yeah, 554 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 2: which he. 555 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 5: Talks a lot about the injustices of slavery. There is 556 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 5: modern day slavery going on there right now making our products, 557 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 5: and they're silent on that because again the NBA is 558 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 5: buying large a co optative organization by the Chinese Communist 559 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 5: Party as well. So we have to change the policies 560 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 5: at the top level federally to say that there are 561 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 5: penalties and sanctions against doing business with a foreign power. 562 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 5: This way, we have the same sanctions on Russia. You 563 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 5: couldn't think of a multinational company during the Cold War 564 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 5: doing business with the Soviet Union. That's happening right now. 565 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 5: That's the analogy. We need to continue to hammer at 566 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 5: home and put pressure on our politicians. We're probably brought off. 567 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: So that really goes to the fact that this is 568 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: in our music, this is in our news, it's in 569 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,199 Speaker 2: all of the TV that we watch, it's in all 570 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 2: of the movies, or as you're pointing out, I mean 571 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 2: it's lacking there. The warning is not there, the embracing 572 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: is there, The warning is not there whereas it used 573 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 2: to be. That you had Hollywood on board with national security, 574 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 2: and now it seems like that has gone by the wayside. 575 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: So does Public Square at some point have its own Netflix. 576 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 2: How do we We've seen conservatives try to enter that space. 577 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: It just doesn't work. How do we get there? 578 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 4: Well, I think that part of the most effective way 579 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 4: to getting there is recognizing our unique placement in the 580 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 4: market and nailing it before we scale it. I think 581 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 4: sometimes we can desire to boil the ocean, and we'll 582 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: get lost this facade that you know what, I can't 583 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 4: change anything until I change everything, and it's like, that's 584 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 4: actually not the way forward. The way forward is by 585 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 4: picking one thing, crushing it at that, showcasing that as 586 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 4: an example of what could be. So then the seventeen 587 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 4: eighty nine capitals of the world and the banks of 588 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 4: the world start to rally around those examples of really 589 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 4: well executed, mission driven companies that are vital to the 590 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 4: national interest. And then that carries over into industry after 591 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 4: industry after industry. We have a lot of people toun 592 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: They reach out and they say, well, you know what, 593 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 4: I still have an iPhone, like we still drive their cars, 594 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 4: Like they just own and control too much We're never 595 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 4: going to win, so what's the point of even trying? 596 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 4: And my rebuttal is very simple. It took the authoritarians 597 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 4: in our country decades to build this woke, corporative society 598 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 4: we live in now, so it's going to take time 599 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 4: to reverse it too. But it will never start unless 600 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 4: we start somewhere. And so for us, we believe that 601 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 4: the solution is, let's beat Amazon. Let's create a shopping 602 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 4: experience that is well resourced, well capitalized, and excellent in execution. 603 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: Let's build on it. 604 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 4: Let's hear the needs of our consumers and make sure 605 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 4: that we're providing real value. Let's have it be a 606 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 4: cultural movement, not just a political one. So tutter, we 607 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 4: have country music stars, action sports athletes, major entertainers that 608 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 4: are rallying around this marketplace because it's so much bigger 609 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 4: than just politics. 610 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: It is truly vital to our way of life as Americans. 611 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 4: Let's nail absolutely. Then Let's let Public Square be an example. 612 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 4: Let's let it be an example to the entertainment industry. 613 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 4: Let's let it be an example to music and to finance. 614 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 4: And we believe that ultimately, a rising title lift all ships, 615 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: and we hope that this tide of patriotism will be 616 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 4: one that really starts with us. We believe we're at 617 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 4: the forefront of something, but we believe we are so early. 618 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: I have a generational outlook on this, and I think 619 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 4: that's how we need to win. China has a generational 620 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 4: outlook on the future. They think of things in centuries, 621 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 4: not just minutes like we. 622 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: Do in the Right Thing, not eight years. 623 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: Exactly. Have to change that if we want to win. 624 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 5: They were they edored the WTO in two thousand, two 625 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 5: thousand and one. So you know, we're twenty two years 626 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 5: into this veiled experiment and we're looking at things based 627 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 5: on an election cycle. Look, we could all be doing 628 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 5: other things. You know, it's not typical for a Wall 629 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 5: Street person like me to put himself out there. I'm 630 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 5: doing it because I want what's best for my daughter, 631 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 5: my family. You have to do this otherwise our way 632 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 5: of life is going to go. So we're at the 633 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 5: top of the first So people can say, oh, well, 634 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 5: what about this or that this is right now the 635 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 5: way I like to equate it, the way The ESG 636 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 5: fraud started in twenty eleven and become a multi trillion 637 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 5: dollar scam. We're actually doing something that's not just a 638 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 5: marketing scam the way ESG is and we can be 639 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 5: trillions of dollars if we all just come together. People 640 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 5: need to come together, work together, and we have to 641 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 5: start somewhere. And I think we're providing literally the most 642 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 5: elegant solution you could possibly think of to start the movement, 643 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 5: which is, are you sick of giving your money to 644 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 5: people that hate you? 645 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 2: Yes? 646 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: Or no? We want money to people. 647 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 5: That sounds pretty obvious. 648 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: If you are and you wanted to, then go off 649 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 2: and build the net and the next Netflix for conservatives 650 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: or something. You go to Public Square and you find 651 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: a bank that's going to help you, right. 652 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 5: Exactly, you can find all that stuff. So that's why, 653 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 5: as you're pointing out, it's the perfect solution. We just 654 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 5: need people to take that first step. And what's great 655 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 5: about it is we're not asking for anyone to spend 656 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 5: more money than they're already spending. So it's already money 657 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 5: that you're throwing away to help someone that's hurting you. 658 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 5: So take that same dollar and put it to something 659 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 5: that's positive. It's like, to me, the easiest decision you 660 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 5: could possibly make. 661 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 2: Well, tell our listeners where they go, how they find 662 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: Public Square, what they should do to help spread the 663 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 2: word everything. 664 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 4: Would be happy to thanks so much for having us on. 665 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 4: You can head to publicsq dot com to get started. So, 666 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 4: whether you're a consumer or a business and you're looking 667 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: to join, it's totally free to sign up. 668 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: We're never going to ask you for money. 669 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 4: You can join at publicsq dot com for a business 670 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 4: or consumer. That's also where you'll find links to the 671 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: App Store or to Google Play. So that's kind of 672 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 4: our single source of truth, best first step. And then 673 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: obviously you can learn more about Columbia. 674 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're ClBr on the New York Stock Exchange and 675 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: you can read all about us and this transaction that's 676 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 5: happening if you're interested in sporting. 677 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: Awesome. 678 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Michael Seifert, oh Mead Malik, thank 679 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: you so much for being on today. We appreciate it 680 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 2: and we wish you the best of luck with Public Square. 681 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 2: I will be on there today trying to find an 682 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 2: actual suit that I can wear. 683 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you, nik you, thank. 684 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 2: You, thank you, and thank you all for joining me 685 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: on the Tutor Dixon Podcast for this episode and others 686 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: go to Tutor disonpodcast dot com. You can subscribe right there, 687 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: or go to Apple Podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever 688 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts. Join us next time on the 689 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: Tutor Dixon Podcast and have an awesome day.