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Speaker 1: welcome to Money Making Conversations Angela Am Joe Lovette Hey,

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Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, Hey, Hey that DJ moon Baby. It's me.

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Speaker 1: can't even imagine, you know happy, You're you're very happy.

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Speaker 1: But could you just give somebody some advice? Somebody who's

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Speaker 1: sitting on the edge contemplating. You know, people tell them, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you're stupid, No, no, they don't make any sense. What

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Speaker 1: advice would you give somebody who's hearing the negative, who's

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Speaker 1: fear and change? Who really this is what they want

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Speaker 1: to do, but don't really see the end results That's

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Speaker 1: what it really stops you because you know, when you

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Speaker 1: go out there on your own, there's no guarantee that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get a check every day, or the health

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Speaker 1: insurance payment is going to be every every every month.

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Speaker 1: So what advice you would you give somebody just to

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Speaker 1: just go forward? What advice I mean I tell anyone?

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously, be very strategic if you make a

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Speaker 1: move like this. You know, people say, you know, you

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Speaker 1: have to take a risk and walk out on faith,

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Speaker 1: but God didn't tell you to be silly. You know,

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00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 1: you still have to pay your bills, if you have kids,

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Speaker 1: you have a mortgage, you have so you have to

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Speaker 1: be strategic when you make this move, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you have to plan for it. You know. In my case,

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Speaker 1: like I said, it was very clear that he had

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Speaker 1: created this room and opportunity after a decade of my life,

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Speaker 1: Like I thought I was going to leave there sooner.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna get in there four years,

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Speaker 1: five years, and I was gonna be on my way

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Speaker 1: to the next you know, But it took me a

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Speaker 1: decade of my life. So everything is about timing, and

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Speaker 1: you just have to be prepared. Like I would never

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Speaker 1: advise anybody like, oh, just quit your job and go

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Speaker 1: try to do whatever necessarily without a plan in place.

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Speaker 1: So it's about planning, vision, faith, and execution. So if

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Speaker 1: you are on the verge right now and you're over

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Speaker 1: where you are and you feel like you can't take

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Speaker 1: it anymore and it's time to walk out and say peace, like,

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Speaker 1: just make sure you have a plan in place, some

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Speaker 1: sort of plans, and he will take care of you

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Speaker 1: the rest of the way. My friend, you're telling the truth.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy I got you back on the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm so blessed that you're in a situation my relationship

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Speaker 1: with you to hear that you have great things happening

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Speaker 1: for you in the future on BT with TMZ and

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Speaker 1: uh always let me know. I'm a fan. I want

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Speaker 1: to keep motivating. I want to keep motivating you to

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Speaker 1: success because you deserve it. You have a life that

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Speaker 1: I've lived for myself because I had to make that

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Speaker 1: tough decision. I have and I have not looked back.

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Speaker 1: Have that been about the rose yest Heather? I thought

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Speaker 1: I couldn't make it to the next day. Yes, but

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Speaker 1: guess what, DJ Moon Baby, I'm a fan, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Thank you so much for keeping your word.

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00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: You said you're gonna have me back, so I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: And a lot has happened since we last talked, So

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Speaker 1: bye bye. Let me tell you about the host of

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations, Rashaan McDonald. He's a social media influencer.

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Speaker 1: Of his seven hundred thousand plus social media followers are female.

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Speaker 1: He's a two time Emmy Award winner, three time n

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Speaker 1: double a c P Image Award winner, sitcom writer, stand

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Speaker 1: up comic, former IBM executive, and has a degree in mathematics.

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Speaker 1: More importantly, Rashan McDonald will use his business and celebrity

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Speaker 1: relationships to empower small businesses with information to succeed. Roshan

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Speaker 1: mcgond I'm back. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. Money Making

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Speaker 1: Conversations to a show where I interview industry decision makers, CEO,

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Speaker 1: small business owners and celebrities and you learned the secrets

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Speaker 1: of their success. My next guest, it's my man. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give it. I'm gonna give by one title, but

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Speaker 1: he's a true entrepreneur and we're gonna talk about a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that he's doing out there. High impacts

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Speaker 1: people's lives and giving opportunities. How his business is really,

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Speaker 1: I think it creates social change. My next guest is

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Speaker 1: the vice chairman of e Many magazine. Please welcome to

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations, Willard Jackson. Really, I'm doing fantastic. Really,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know you're you know the funny thing

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Speaker 1: about me and you you know, we were text each

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Speaker 1: other and we should already posted that. I posted that

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Speaker 1: for you, will I thank you, thank you for looking

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Speaker 1: out for me, brother, because that's the relationship we have.

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Speaker 1: Because the fact that you know, we're like you know,

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Speaker 1: when when saw each other in problem about eight months.

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Speaker 1: But but but the beauty of our relationship is that

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Speaker 1: we keep supporting each other and keep being there for

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Speaker 1: each other if we need something from us from a

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Speaker 1: motivational standpoint or from a social media post, because we

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Speaker 1: know that that's how this business works, in this relationships. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And you know, Rushan, you and I man, we have

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Speaker 1: been tendered spare as brothers in the in the cause

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Speaker 1: from the first moment we met. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I love you like a brother and we're here to

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Speaker 1: support each other. Man, And uh, I'm really really happy

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Speaker 1: to be on your show this morning. I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about, you know, the show basically money Making Conversation.

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Speaker 1: Is it really an interesting show because of the fact

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Speaker 1: that I really, I really want to talk about allow

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Speaker 1: a person like you, a successful business man, to explain

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Speaker 1: to everyday people are entrepreneurs. So I maybe at your level,

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Speaker 1: so I might just be small upstart businesses. How what

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Speaker 1: what does it mean to be an entrepreneur? You know,

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Speaker 1: rush It means, um, you know, one taking really taking

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Speaker 1: responsibility and putting yourself in a situation where for me,

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Speaker 1: where I didn't have a glass ceiling over my head, okay,

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Speaker 1: And so for me, being an entrepreneur meant freedom, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, freedom to be the person I wanted to be,

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Speaker 1: Freedom to go out and earn a living, you know,

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Speaker 1: for myself, and being in a position to control my

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Speaker 1: own destiny. And so for a lot of people, you know,

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Speaker 1: entrepreneur isn't mean different things. But for me, that's what

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Speaker 1: it meant, man, is being able to control my own

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Speaker 1: destiny without a glass ceiling over my head. Now, but

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Speaker 1: that's now, that's now Will you talk like that? Are

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00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: you talking very confidently? Now? Now? When you dropped out,

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Speaker 1: there a lot of uncertainty was it was was was

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Speaker 1: out there? Do you are you still uncertain like that

537
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: you still have levels of doubts? Or what keeps you motivated?

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Speaker 1: Because I remember one day we were sitting down there.

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Speaker 1: I just love buying businesses. I just love buying stuff.

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Speaker 1: I love invested, And it was like a genuine thrill

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Speaker 1: in your voice, you know, and he was like, this

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Speaker 1: excites me. That that that that that it's like like

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Speaker 1: a new brand of exploration for you from an entrepreneurship standpoint.

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Speaker 1: Because the fact that you're not satisfied and you're willing

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Speaker 1: to diversify your portfolio, which is even more crazy, and

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Speaker 1: the sence that most people just you know, they stay

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Speaker 1: in their lane. You know, I'm talking about stay in

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Speaker 1: their lane. They go, I know this that I'm happy

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Speaker 1: with this, I'm making a lot of money doing this.

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00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: But you, my friend, diversified. Why is that or that

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Speaker 1: just keeps you motivated? Well, it's it's it's it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a lot of things. One crution. I first of all,

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Speaker 1: you know, I started my first business my senior year

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Speaker 1: in college, and and it goes all the way back to,

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Speaker 1: you know, the lessons that my grandfather taught me, man,

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Speaker 1: when I was a young kid, he said, son, go

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Speaker 1: to college, get a business degree to putting use for yourself.

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Speaker 1: And and my grandfather was an entrepreneur his entire life,

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Speaker 1: and so I grew up looking at and seeing that,

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Speaker 1: you know. So when I went to college, man, it

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00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: was the only option I had was to start my

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Speaker 1: own business. So at that point, rush, And I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you, the biggest hurdle I had to overcome was

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Speaker 1: the fear of jumping out there and trying to do it.

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Speaker 1: And and so it took me a while to really

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Speaker 1: overcome my fears. And once I put together the plan

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Speaker 1: of action, I targeted the business opportunity that I wanted

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Speaker 1: to come after, and I overcame those those fears. Man,

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Speaker 1: I just jumped out there and and from there's been

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Speaker 1: a faith walk. And uh now they were in fear.

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Speaker 1: Now that pops up a lot, and and and I

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Speaker 1: use it in my tone too. And I when I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about people are because I've telling them that fear

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Speaker 1: and fear is a good thing too, because fear means

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Speaker 1: you're about to do something different, You're about to challenge

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Speaker 1: your life. So don't look at fears a negative word,

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Speaker 1: because fear slides you into another category because a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are going to work every day because of

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Speaker 1: the fact that they are unhappy and they fear change,

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Speaker 1: they fear they unknown, and you're that's that's what you're saying,

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Speaker 1: you said, Rashan, They're no guarantees. And that's what Ted

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Speaker 1: has a general tendency to stop you, is that, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay at this job because guess what if

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Speaker 1: I leave? What if that job closed? You know, people

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Speaker 1: just start putting up roadblocks, They just put blocks of

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Speaker 1: their success. So so how did you, young guy, because

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Speaker 1: people are listening as an entrepreneur, how did you overcome

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Speaker 1: those fears, all those uh which are usually tied to change.

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Speaker 1: How did you overcome those? Well, like I said, I

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Speaker 1: really man, I started really reading a lot of motivational

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Speaker 1: type when I was in college, and I started buying

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Speaker 1: into the notion that you know, you have to walk

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Speaker 1: by faith and once you have a plan of action,

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Speaker 1: you know, I developed a conviction that, hey, failing is

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Speaker 1: not an option. This was gonna be the path that

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Speaker 1: I was gonna take in my life, and whatever the consequences,

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Speaker 1: whatever the successes, whatever the failure, whatever. I was willing

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Speaker 1: to accept that. And so as a result, you know,

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Speaker 1: I jumped out there and well it was interesting. And

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Speaker 1: going back to your earlier questions, and once I jumped

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Speaker 1: into business, you know, I ended up having some really

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Speaker 1: good mentors, man that really helped me along the way

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Speaker 1: to overcome different issues in business. And I give example,

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Speaker 1: I my college roommate, his dad owned hospitals, and so

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Speaker 1: coming out, you know, I grew up in Denton, Texas,

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Speaker 1: you know, a small town, I've never really been exposed to,

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Speaker 1: you know, these level of business people when I got

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Speaker 1: to Houston, and so I didn't even know you could

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Speaker 1: own a hospital. And not only did I not know

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Speaker 1: you could own the hospital. I thought you had to

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Speaker 1: be a doctor to be to own a hospital. So

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Speaker 1: but my roommate's dad, he said, listen, will hear you

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Speaker 1: don't have to be a doctor to own the hospital.

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Speaker 1: You know. He was a businessman, and so he hired

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Speaker 1: doctors and they took care of that point. He was

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Speaker 1: the business guy to make sure they had the resources

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Speaker 1: to do what they do back h Rush and that

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Speaker 1: freed me up, my man, and to the point where

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Speaker 1: I started casting a water net looking at opportunities, you know,

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Speaker 1: on a broader basis, And so that allowed me to

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Speaker 1: go into all kinds of different opportunities. Yes, once you

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Speaker 1: realize that you don't have to be an expert, hire

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Speaker 1: the expert. Yes, Sir, hired the experts. So as a result,

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Speaker 1: as a business guy, you know, I've on trucking companies,

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Speaker 1: I've on staffing companies. Okay, let's stop at that staffing

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Speaker 1: company because I want to talk about that, because because that,

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Speaker 1: to me, is a game changer, and so many people are,

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Speaker 1: especially people were coming out of college. I remember when

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Speaker 1: I came out of college, you know, I would I

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Speaker 1: work for temporary employment agencies, which is which is your

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Speaker 1: staffing type companies? Correct? Yes? And and my my my

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Speaker 1: younger brother called me. His sou graduated from college in

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Speaker 1: d C. He said, Rashan, he's having trouble trying to

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Speaker 1: get a job. I said, look, he needs to go

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Speaker 1: to a staffing company. I said, this gives him an

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Speaker 1: entry way into a job. And basically, if they like

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Speaker 1: you more, sometimes they'll hire you full time. Because I said,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people are missing the boat. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to young people and even adults who are out there

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Speaker 1: trying to look at these full time jobs are missing

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Speaker 1: the boat on the advantages that these staffing companies can

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Speaker 1: offer to them. Can you expand on that through you

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00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 1: exactly right? And and what people don't realize and what

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Speaker 1: I try to promote out there is so we're staffing,

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Speaker 1: and so we do we do contract staffing in the

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Speaker 1: area of light industrial, we do um I T professionals,

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Speaker 1: you know, clerical, administrative accounting, all of those different discolotes

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Speaker 1: what we what you find rushan, especially with the watching

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Speaker 1: one thousand companies to big companies, the best entryway to

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Speaker 1: get into those companies is through a staff because what

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Speaker 1: they'll do, they'll contract a person from a company like us.

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Speaker 1: They would then have the opportunity to check them out

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Speaker 1: for six months or however long on an assignment, and

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Speaker 1: the ones that are really excelling, the ones that they

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Speaker 1: really like, they'll then hire them full time. And so

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Speaker 1: they get that chance to really you know, vet people

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Speaker 1: out before they bring them on and put them on

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Speaker 1: their payroll, give them all those benefits and all those

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Speaker 1: kind of things. So the number one gateway into corporate America,

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Speaker 1: I would suggest to you is through working with a

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Speaker 1: staffing company. Thank you, because they control those initial opportunities

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Speaker 1: with most of these major companies. And I tell people

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Speaker 1: all the time because because verse of all, when you

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Speaker 1: worry about health benefit issues. All that is very and

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Speaker 1: it's been going on for years, you know, years, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people missed the boat because of the

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Speaker 1: fact that I and I applaud you not only for

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Speaker 1: the having this type of company, because you affect people's

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Speaker 1: system that you created through your staffing companies, that look,

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Speaker 1: if you have a trouble trying to get a job,

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Speaker 1: come to me, I could probably that same company. Did

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Speaker 1: you probably having difficult to get an application? I could

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Speaker 1: probably get you own in a temporary higher situation. You

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Speaker 1: go over there, blow the doors off of them naty

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Speaker 1: days and however that little cycle period is they could

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Speaker 1: into the Hey, that's that's really the avenue to get

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Speaker 1: in there. And if you look at most corporate America,

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Speaker 1: they have what's called a contingency workforce. That's that's us,

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Speaker 1: that's the contract employees that they have. Okay, more and more,

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Speaker 1: more and more corporations are expanding to if they look

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Speaker 1: at their workforce. You can look at anyone of these

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Speaker 1: from these are employees that are actually on staffing companies

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Speaker 1: payroll providing all of this different you know, these different

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Speaker 1: uh filling these different positions. And I love it, I

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Speaker 1: the phone right now, device chair, Ebony magazine, The diverse,

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Speaker 1: You know I love I love communicating with you and

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Speaker 1: Because of the fact there's not enough shows out there

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Speaker 1: and when I got you, when you when I I

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Speaker 1: you know, I did chext on what will? I said?

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Speaker 1: Would you do my show? Shawn? Stop? Stop? Yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on stop? What you want

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Speaker 1: me to do? The show? And did all the stuff himself,

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Speaker 1: you know he didn't send it to his assistant. He

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Speaker 1: did it all himself. So let's talk about that crowning

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Speaker 1: jewel that's sitting out there called Ebony and Jet Magazine.

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Speaker 1: And before we talk about that, I want to let

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Speaker 1: you know I voted in the HPCU College Queens, which

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Speaker 1: is which is the which is another iconic brand. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the HBCU College Queens which if any African American,

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Speaker 1: any person who's any last forty years, you open that

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Speaker 1: magazine enough to see who want and how has the

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Speaker 1: social media or the email system of the digital world

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Speaker 1: changed it and what is the future of that of

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00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: that platform with under your vision? Well as you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Ebony has always had some basic iconic opponents

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Speaker 1: to the magazine that everybody knows about. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: talk about Jet magazine. Everybody talked about the beauty of

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Speaker 1: the way, you know, you talked about Ebony every year

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Speaker 1: Ebony has always highlighted the queens on these historically black colleges. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that is part of the you know, the fabric of evity,

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Speaker 1: and so what we're doing now is just taking that

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Speaker 1: and expanded it in a in a much bigger way.

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Speaker 1: We're doing that now through social media, through digital We

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Speaker 1: now have corporate partners who are co sponsoring those young ladies.

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Speaker 1: And so what is going on now is that once

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Speaker 1: it's narrowed down through the voting, national voting, where we're

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Speaker 1: getting close to three million people voting, the top ten

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Speaker 1: young ladies are then taken to Disney and so in

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Speaker 1: Orlando or Los Angeles. Yeah, in Orlando, and man, they

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Speaker 1: are they It's laid out for them. They get to

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Speaker 1: spend three days doing photo shoots and video shoots and

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Speaker 1: they get to explore the Disneyland. We then bringing young

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Speaker 1: ladies whose queens get the mentor and their mothers are there,

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Speaker 1: and so it's it's become a really expanded, robust program

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Speaker 1: that's more than just having these young ladies pictures in

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Speaker 1: the in the magazine. Okay, let me get this, let

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Speaker 1: me get this, because I didn't know all this, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just voted you know what I'm saying. I just voted.

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Speaker 1: You know, you can vote as many times you want.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful set up, you know. And so you're

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Speaker 1: telling me now you have corporate sponsors tied to it,

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Speaker 1: and and also it is narrowed down the ten ladies

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Speaker 1: with the most votes, and then they're brought to Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 1: And the Orlando Florida is kind of like a camp

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Speaker 1: where they're mentored future young executives of America, you kind

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Speaker 1: of like creating here and creating business relationships and just

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Speaker 1: social relationships. And they and their moms are there. So

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Speaker 1: it's really really a unique situation. It is a unique situation.

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Speaker 1: It's a great um exposure for these young ladies. Man,

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Speaker 1: they love it um and um, and it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. Well that's key. That's key. That's key. That's key.

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Speaker 1: I love it because of the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: in its own sudden way, essence is always a champion

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Speaker 1: UH African American female beauty of all colors, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And sometimes we we we missed. We

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Speaker 1: gotta give you credit there, We gotta give any credit

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Speaker 1: for that, you know what I'm saying, Because You've been

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Speaker 1: the true champion, you know, and I'm talking about at

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Speaker 1: HBCU schools where sometimes they get you know, once once

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Speaker 1: so called discrimination and then in segregation, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: we start going to all these different colleges. You know,

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Speaker 1: HBCUs kind of got left on the back burner, but

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Speaker 1: you guys never left. You've always supported that brand. I

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Speaker 1: always supported that level of understanding. And now you're telling

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Speaker 1: me you've taken it to another level. We've taken it

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Speaker 1: to another level as well. As you know, our Ebony's

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Speaker 1: dedication to HBCUs really really deep and it's fact um

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Speaker 1: and it's been that way as long as you know,

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Speaker 1: even beyond before they started highlighting the HBCU queen and

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Speaker 1: so Ebony. You know, we have a senior level person

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Speaker 1: on Ebony staff that does nothing but interact with every

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Speaker 1: HBCU in the country congratulations, and so she creates you know,

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Speaker 1: we have ambassadorships and we have all kinds of different

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Speaker 1: activations that we do in reference to supporting our HBCUs.

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Speaker 1: So that's the staple of evity that will always continue

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Speaker 1: and growth. Okay, now let's slide over too, because you

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Speaker 1: can now you can now Ebony Steer comes in print form, correct, Yes, okay, cool, Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's slide over to Jet Magazine. What is the future

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Speaker 1: of Jet magazine? What was happening with that magazine that

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Speaker 1: that digital publication. Yeah, so what we're doing with Jet

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Speaker 1: is we've we've we've repurposed Jet where it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a problem primarily a digital platform, but we will still

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Speaker 1: do some print and the print that will do will

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Speaker 1: be in the form of special editions maybe once a

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Speaker 1: quarter new stand or a new stand only. But the

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Speaker 1: repurpose in the Jet is to focus on the millennial audience. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna give shine to these young folks, these

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Speaker 1: young African American influencers who are normally not you know,

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Speaker 1: there's not really platforms out there to really show them

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Speaker 1: in a different light, in a very positive light. And

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Speaker 1: uh and so we'll be doing activations around the country

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Speaker 1: for these young folks, will be highlighting them on the digital,

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Speaker 1: will be putting in a lot of these uh influencers

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Speaker 1: and and really spot lighting them so everybody know who

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Speaker 1: they are. It's interesting, you know, well, I gotta just

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Speaker 1: share this with your press release is going to go

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Speaker 1: out tomorrow. Um where where that eighteen and thirty or

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Speaker 1: four generations really is the entrepreneurship generation, and I am

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Speaker 1: I am becoming the Uncle Roushan to that generation. And

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Speaker 1: my show Money Beating Conversation is going to be syndicated

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Speaker 1: to HBCU schools. So I'm just letting you know, we're

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Speaker 1: we're we're we know this is this is this relationship.

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Speaker 1: So know that press release coming out tomorrow, you read it.

848
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: Everybody around the country gonna read this, and so i'mouldna

849
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: let you know that you're hitting a couple of areas

850
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: that's coming just right in my path. That's right in

851
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: my direction because I know that who I am and

852
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: what I represent, that millennial direction, millionaire generation need that

853
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: direction of entrepreneurship. Who can they focus on because my

854
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: resume speaks for itself. I am the truth and because

855
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: of that, because of that, and we hear what you're

856
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: saying in the direction you're going know that my my

857
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 1: my doors are opened, My friend, my doors are opened.

858
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: I'm going right in the heart of HBCU schools. I'm

859
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: gonna be that voice. They're coming to me. They want

860
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: to hear the truth, they want to understand that there

861
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: they need directions and guess what I'm comfortable with delivering

862
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: that message and what you're saying about your whole focusing

863
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: that Ebony has always had at the core has been

864
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: HBCU schools. Hey, man, let's let's let's start shaking the

865
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: hands and start doing some big things together. Brother, absolutely,

866
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: and you know we over here to Ebony love you, shot.

867
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're part of our family over

868
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: here and always till Michael h okay, exactly now just

869
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: now just let Michael my board, Austin and Keith in us. Yeah,

870
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: because people that don't know, man, I have my business

871
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 1: partners are Michael Gibson and Linda Johnson, Rice Sir. And

872
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: then our fourth person on our board is Chief Smith.

873
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: And man, what a group. We worked great together. You know,

874
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: we have a lot of visions for this brand. Linda

875
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: Johnson right is still our CEO, you know. So yeah,

876
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: it's fantastic, man, It's a lot of fun. You know,

877
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: it's really cool with hearing. Uh. You know, like I

878
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: said when I when I brought you on the show,

879
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: I didn't want to just talk about that significant brand,

880
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: that very significant brand in your life. I just want

881
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: the people here a little bit of your story, and

882
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: believe me, y'all, it's a lot more to tell because

883
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: I haven't even got into the CVG Investment Group, which

884
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: you kind of like talked about, which which gets all

885
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: these the Starlight Transportation Company in Washington, all these things,

886
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: and how big these staffing is around the country because

887
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: of the fact that you're changing lives, man, and congratulations

888
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: and don't you stop, will it? And I know I'm

889
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: just telling you that for hype reason because I know

890
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 1: you're not gonna stop. But don't you stop, my friend, man,

891
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: Bruce Sean, I take that to heart. Man. It means

892
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: a lot for you to say that, and I can

893
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: I guarantee you we're not stopping over here. Bro. Well

894
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: you stay strong, man. Tell Linda I say Hi. Tell

895
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: Michael Gibson, I say hi. Till my boy Keith I

896
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: said hi. Because guys, you guys are winners. And stay blessed.

897
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: If you ever need me, man, I'm there for you.

898
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: On SOCIOO definitely on this radio show. We'll be right

899
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: back with more from Rashan McDonald and Money Making Conversations.

900
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: Don't touch that doctor. Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's

901
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: the show that she has the secrets of success experience

902
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: firsthand by marketing and Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will

903
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: know he's giving me advice on many occasions. In the

904
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: case you didn't notice, I'm not broke, you know he'll

905
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's

906
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: what he likes to do, it's what he likes to share.

907
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald

908
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: money making conversations. Here we come. Rashan McDonald's here and

909
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: my next guance is on the phone. He's been there

910
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: for a while, so let me introduce him because he

911
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: loves to talk, just like I love the interview. My

912
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: next guest is Compton, California raised, Ivy League educated, former

913
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: NFL All Pro and you can see him on TV

914
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: every day on ESPN. Please work on the money making conversation.

915
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: One of my favorites, mar Sellers Wiley Wiley, Man, I've

916
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: been following your career, not only as a because you

917
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: know your story. I'm a sports guy. I'm not I'm

918
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: not one of these guys who are who who's I'm

919
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: passioned by teams say I stopped doing that team at

920
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: teams so long time ago because I got tired of

921
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: being mad on Sundays. You know, when your team you know,

922
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: you know, you know, Okay, where I'm from from Houston, Texas.

923
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of sadness when it comes to

924
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: football in Houston, Okay. You know that infin this come

925
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: back by Buffalo Bills when Warren Moon was quarterback in

926
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: that big lead and brother, I used to look at

927
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: my TV set, man, and I have a hole in

928
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: my chest emotionally, and I thought myself, I said, I

929
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: don't play football. I don't own no teams. I don't

930
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: even buy a ticket to the game. You need to

931
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: stop all this madness. Stop all this kid. Imagine how

932
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: we fail when we were on the field and we

933
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: had to feel those over here you go. But when

934
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: I when I look at your career, man, because it's

935
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: always stood out, was that you know, was when you

936
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: when you went when you made the decision to go

937
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: to Columbia, Okay, you went from you went from the

938
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: West coast to the East coast, Okay. And then but

939
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: they made a big deal about it, and I want

940
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: to know it is a big deal. But but but

941
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: because you know, it's like, you know, like Compton is

942
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: such a bad place that people are not supposed to

943
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: come out of because I'm f Fifth War of Texas,

944
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: which is similar to Compton. And now does that Does

945
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: that annoy you a little bit when people seem like this,

946
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: like you, you would like somebody extra special that you

947
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: are unusual to pop out of Compton and be able

948
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: to go to Columbia. Well, it does in the sense

949
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:55,320
Speaker 1: that they don't understand and respect the greatness within Compton,

950
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: Fifth War, Texas, or any circumstance that faces adversity. So

951
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: it's just irving when people want to make a blanket

952
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: statement like you really are one in a million when

953
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: you're not. Um There are a lot of kids there

954
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: that were successful in their own rights, maybe not in

955
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: NFL ways or media ways, but I know VPS, I

956
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: know CEO from confidence, I know kids that took the

957
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 1: right course when it came to their education and their careers. However,

958
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: there are a lot of kids that are forking a

959
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: roll kids And I called myself a fork kids and

960
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: I came. I came to the intersection, and it was

961
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: a responsibility more so than I was ordained or I

962
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: was God said. It was just a responsibility to my

963
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: family and deeper to my community that I had to

964
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: be an example. So yeah, at times my inner desires

965
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: were to just go to the football factory school, be

966
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: a typical football player and live out that story that

967
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: we've heard a thousand times. But I thought it would

968
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: be unique to do what I did, which is prioritized academic,

969
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: still play ball, and still have an opportunity to world. Brother,

970
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: it was an awesome because I feel that when you're

971
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: absolutely right, you know, coming from a fifth ward and

972
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: which is very similar to Compton, California, you know, you

973
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: do have those forking roads. It's their friends of mine

974
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: who took the wrong fork and uh and guess what

975
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: they steal in the hood. And I saw something the

976
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: other day, Man, I was like, wow, Okay, we're the

977
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: same age. You got to be kidding me, you know,

978
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: because because that lifestyle will beat you up, it will

979
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: take its toll on you because there are no options,

980
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: There are no uplifting sides of it. And when I

981
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 1: look at your story and I read about your story,

982
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: you are a story because similar to yours, I came

983
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: out of. My degree is in mathematics. I went to

984
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: work five BM. Those those will always there on my resume,

985
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: just like Columbia will always stay in your resume. And

986
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: when you walk in the room, that's your that's your

987
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: badge right there, brother, and that's your badgery. Even tell

988
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: anybody African America, anybody who wants to hear your story

989
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: that you can do. Don't let nobody stop you. Don't

990
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 1: let nobody stop you preach man. And you know what,

991
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: growing up, I saw the gangs, I saw the drugs,

992
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: the poverty. But the most disturbing thing wasn't those things.

993
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: It was the low ambition. It was the people that

994
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: were They were setting their goals too low. They had jobs,

995
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: not careers. And when I got into the mindset that

996
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to design my life, that came with a responsibility,

997
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: and that came with a discipline that I had to

998
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: listen to or else I knew I wouldn't be on track.

999
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: So you get to the NFL, you get to the FPN,

1000
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: and everyone thinks, oh, wow, man, you're just a special individual.

1001
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: Hey look, I'm gonna be humble about it and say,

1002
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: underd I worked for it. But let's be real. I

1003
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: recognized that greatness in so many people, but you have

1004
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: to stay disciplined. You have to know yourself and identity,

1005
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: and you have to take time to design your plan.

1006
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: When you talk about peer pressure, when you talk about

1007
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 1: your circumstances dictate who you are. That's the person who

1008
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: is not taking the proper time to design their life.

1009
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: So they're getting caught up in the meth when I

1010
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: when I say that, having because you know we're gonna

1011
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: be friends, I'm gonna just tell you right now, tell

1012
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: us because we are always been the first time we talked,

1013
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 1: because your life is so selling. I'm older than you,

1014
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: but your life is so similar to my eyes. And

1015
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: I definitely always your people, you know, people that are

1016
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: younger like you. You gotta walk where I walk, okay,

1017
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: And you might want to listen to me because some

1018
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: of these places I stepped, you really don't want to step.

1019
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: And I denied myself, you know, I didn't. I don't

1020
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: And I just say this to anybody. I don't nothing

1021
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: because it's wrong. I don't drink. I want smoke. And

1022
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: because because I had to, I felt I had to

1023
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: set an example for my friends, you know, because they

1024
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: were super parties, you know, and they did some other things.

1025
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: We're not gonna stay on the radio, I would go

1026
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 1: giving me, are you kidding me? Okay? And now they're

1027
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, they're on state farms, they're on the they're

1028
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: they're all stay there executives. And I always believe because

1029
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: I held the course of who I was and and

1030
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,799
Speaker 1: didn't party crazy party like everybody else. You know that

1031
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: they got up when I was supposed to get up

1032
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: and show them examples of it. And dad was you know,

1033
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: I had friends who was doing crack right in front

1034
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: of me before crack was cracked. You know what I'm saying.

1035
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: You know, it was was free based right in front

1036
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: of me, you know, and I'm not bragging about that.

1037
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: But but I couldn't tell them. I couldn't tell them

1038
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: to stop. You know who was I? I was the

1039
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: same age they were, you know. But I knew that

1040
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: if I dove into that same pool of water, then

1041
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: we're always gonna lose. And I felt that because I

1042
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: held true to who I am. And the reason I

1043
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: bring that up about you because you know you were

1044
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 1: from Compton. Then you're in Colombia. A new set of

1045
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: rules out there, a new set of rules, a new

1046
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 1: set of disciplines, a new set of Hey, this is

1047
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: how we want to get it done. What you could

1048
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: do it another different way? What kept you focus? Man?

1049
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: What kept you? I know you said, Rachean, you know

1050
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: I didn't want let anybody down. What standards did you

1051
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: put in place for yourself to keep winning? Oh? Yeah,

1052
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean I knew going to Columbia will be life changing,

1053
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: life altering, just because they would change the perception people

1054
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 1: had to me, just like I grew up with this

1055
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: perception that since I was confident, I had to be

1056
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: this gangster or I had to be an entertainer or

1057
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: athlete the only way to get out because with those

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Speaker 1: limited vehicles, I knew that that wasn't the reality. But

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00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: that was New York and every single person come up with, Hey, dude,

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Speaker 1: who dr Drady and shop Dog and those your homies'll

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Speaker 1: hang out? And I'm like, okay, I get this. So

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Speaker 1: I knew was a good game. Day was a good day.

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00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: It was a good day from so when I knew

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Speaker 1: I could combine my athletic talents with the stamp of

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Speaker 1: being an IVY League educated player, that would change the game.

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Speaker 1: Because I could walk into a room right now and

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Speaker 1: immediately demand respect, and you would give me the respect

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Speaker 1: of my intelligence. And it's just the same thing. If

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Speaker 1: you see a guy down the street and you're like, man,

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Speaker 1: that dude's in the rolls way, the first thing you

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Speaker 1: think is something's going right in his life, right right,

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Speaker 1: right right. If I walk, if I work around and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: where'd you graduate from Columbia, They're gonna immediately say something

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Speaker 1: is smart about this brother right here. And that's where

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Speaker 1: I wanted to go. I don't want to have to

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Speaker 1: go through hurdles and hoops to prove to you my intelligence.

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Speaker 1: I wanted something to deliver it to you instantaneously. At

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Speaker 1: Columbia did that for me. And that's the beauty of

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Speaker 1: you because you know, and it's and it's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: Because I've watched your TV. I could tell this is

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Speaker 1: highly educated guy. You know, who's who knows the roles

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Speaker 1: of corporate lifestyle, you know, Ivy League trade. But then

1083
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: it's the street guy. It's the street guy. You know,

1084
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: could walk and know what street not to walk on,

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Speaker 1: know what time of night it is. Because a lot

1086
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: of people don't know. That's why the get robbed. They

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00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: don't know what time of night. It is, and that's

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Speaker 1: a mentality that they helps you, and and and and

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Speaker 1: and when I'm listening to you convey what you're doing sports,

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Speaker 1: it's very natural to me when I hear you talk,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it's a bouncing not man. As you said,

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01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: I am street smart. I grew up in it. Uh

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: that's just my surroundings, and I extracted from that exactly

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Speaker 1: what I needed. The toughness, uh, the work ethic, that discipline,

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Speaker 1: because you can't show me rougher circumstances that I've already lived. You.

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Speaker 1: So when I get into the real world, I laugh

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01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: when they say, oh, can you do some extra filming,

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01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: some extra time, can you do another interview? I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: do you understand what I've been through before? So I'm

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Speaker 1: not phased by this, But there is a game within

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Speaker 1: the game, and more people need to understand that. When

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Speaker 1: you talk about how to work in corporate America and

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01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: to get around the political warfare, there's a game within

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Speaker 1: the game, and those are the critical lessons that more

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Speaker 1: of youngsters need to learn, because that's the difference between

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Speaker 1: being a good professional and being being at the top

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Speaker 1: of your profession. We're gonna be right back with more

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Speaker 1: with Mars Salis. Hey man, you got a book coming out.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about that. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about your entrepreneurship, and also want to talk more about

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Speaker 1: ESPN because I'm seeing you on a lot of different shows. Now, brother,

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Speaker 1: we'll be right back with more from Rashane McDonald and

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Speaker 1: have really been trying to give me to do a

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Speaker 1: gospel record for so many years, and I've been promising

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Speaker 1: God that I would, I would shout him out to

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Speaker 1: do something, you know, and my baby, come on, man,

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Speaker 1: but look Jesus in the song comes Patty little Bell,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, I'm gonna be doing concerts and

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Speaker 1: little clubs. Thank you, Thank you for you so that

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Speaker 1: I can touch you when I'm staying with my hands.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. See, I told you be there. Every Monday,

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Speaker 1: ten am. The noon b is a love and naty

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Speaker 1: him over day. Sports Nation is on ESPN at twelve

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Speaker 1: thirty Pacific Standard time and three thirty Eastern Standard Time.

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Speaker 1: Here as a radio show that actually listened to when

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Speaker 1: I come to l A's on seven ten. Uh, it's great.

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Speaker 1: It's it's week days from three to seven pm. You

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Speaker 1: know this guy I, when I say Guy I fool

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Speaker 1: is relatable because of the fact that when I when

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Speaker 1: I look at the individual like Myselos, you know what

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Speaker 1: he's preaching on a regular basis when I hear him talk,

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01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: when I read things about him, is dad, you can

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01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: be successful if you want to be success, askful. And

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01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: he doesn't put himself into a special box. He saw

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01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: an opportunity given to him and you took advantage of it.

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01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: And and and when I hear him talking, it's always

1165
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: that's the driving force that keeps going. What you're in

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Speaker 1: your voice is that take advantage of the opportunity that's

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Speaker 1: given to you. Is that correct? That is absolutely correct. Man.

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Speaker 1: I got a chance to be a professional athlete, which

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Speaker 1: is many a kid's dreams, especially where I'm from, and

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Speaker 1: through my experiences, I think one of the lasting values

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01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: that I gained from my experience of being a pro

1172
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Speaker 1: athlete is how fickle it is, how fickle the dame

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Speaker 1: is and how short the game is. And it's a

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01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: microcosm of life. You get that finite shelf life. You're

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01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: only there for a decade or so if you're blessed,

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01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: and if you're just average, you're only there for three years.

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Speaker 1: And you realize how vulnerable you are, no matter how

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01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: talented you are about that in real life. You're in

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Speaker 1: six packs. You got a six pack, You eat right,

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01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: you don't drink, you don't smoke. You got muscles popping

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Speaker 1: out of everywhere. You run on that field, and you

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01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: are ready to dominate. Rashan, You are ready to dominate

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Speaker 1: in short time. You're a pro bowl player. You're the man.

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Speaker 1: You want championships, m vps and in one play, yeah,

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Speaker 1: one play, it could be different for the rest of

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Speaker 1: your life. And when I learned that from playing ball,

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Speaker 1: and then my upbringing. Brother. It's not a day that

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Speaker 1: goes by that I not only appreciate it, but I

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Speaker 1: also try to determine my faith by my discipline and

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Speaker 1: my work. As people. Just gotta get on the board

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Speaker 1: with that and things will turn out a lot better.

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Speaker 1: For It's a couple of online programs that you're involved,

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Speaker 1: and I want to bring up. One of them is

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Speaker 1: with the Columbia University School of Professional Studies. What exactly

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Speaker 1: is that where you just spoke pertinent not only even

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Speaker 1: spoke person, but by the one of the partners. Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's called CUB education, and the Columbia program is unique

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Speaker 1: and the only VY League school that's helping the global

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Speaker 1: sports industry world. So so many kids walk up to me,

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Speaker 1: Hey man, I want to play ball, Hey man, I

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01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: want to play basketball, football. I get it, but do

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Speaker 1: you understand the opportunities that surround that orbit the playing field,

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01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: not just being a player, but being the executive, being

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Speaker 1: a part of the media, being any part and of

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01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: the antennas of the game. So we're giving them opportunities

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Speaker 1: to see what they can do to be a part

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Speaker 1: of this ecosystem without necessarily being a player and it's

1208
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: been tremendous because kids just want to be exposed to

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Speaker 1: opportunities because their passion is in sports. But maybe they're

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Speaker 1: not the performer for sports, but they can still be

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Speaker 1: a part of that culture and a part of that environment.

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Speaker 1: So it's been tremendous, and it's tremendous when I look

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Speaker 1: at you like doing during the season. You know, everybody

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Speaker 1: knows you for Sports Nation, you know, and off the

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Speaker 1: time when I've seen you your hostess show a lot now,

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Speaker 1: which is fantastic, congratulations. And then I started seeing you

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Speaker 1: pop up on at halftime on Monday Night football. Okay,

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Speaker 1: more more FaceTime for my man, more FaceTime for my

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Speaker 1: fand you know, because the goal is man to be

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Speaker 1: the best in your field. And then also to dump

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Speaker 1: that I'm just a football player. I can talk about anything.

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Speaker 1: Mentality is that? Is that a brand? That is that

1223
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Speaker 1: the goal? To be an entertainer, to be a personality?

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Speaker 1: What is the goal? When I look at Marsala's wild,

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Speaker 1: He's brand, what's your goal? Yeah, it's great that you're

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Speaker 1: taking notice of that because I'm supposed to do bad.

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Speaker 1: You're rising, stop, you're rising, sto. I love it, man,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it because it's funny. I got the ESPN

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Speaker 1: and two thousand and seven right after I retired, and

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Speaker 1: at first, once again, here I go. I'm back in confidence.

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Speaker 1: I'm even at FTN. That got me in the box, right,

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Speaker 1: I do NFL only NFL, like NFL live NFL. I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 1: y'all know that at one, football is not even my

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Speaker 1: favorite sport. Still just the sport I can play, not

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Speaker 1: my favorite sport, and to let me, I'm a person

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Speaker 1: like I have more interest in just football. Absolutely. Two

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Speaker 1: weeks into that gig my, my boss came to me

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Speaker 1: and said, man, you ain't gonna be on this show long.

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Speaker 1: And that's a good thing because your personality and your outlook,

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Speaker 1: we're not gonna limit that. And that's how that transition

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Speaker 1: into like forest Nation now more hosting and then more

1242
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Speaker 1: opportunities to being prevented weeklies seems like so and it's

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Speaker 1: good and I'm teaching, man, and they're missing a boat

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Speaker 1: with you, marsellis because in front of a live audience,

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Speaker 1: you're a beast man. You're a beast brother. People gravitate

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Speaker 1: because you're you're a natural entertainer. You know, you're a

1247
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Speaker 1: natural entertainer and that's a blessing. Man, that's a blessing

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Speaker 1: skill to have. And when I see you diversifying yourself,

1249
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Speaker 1: I know what you're trying to do. And I'm going like,

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Speaker 1: you know when that's that's the purpose of money making conversations, Man,

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Speaker 1: purpose of this show is to take a guy like

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Speaker 1: you and let everybody see other sides of the business side,

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Speaker 1: the entertainment's side, and realized that the lifestyle that you live.

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Speaker 1: Realized that you're fighting to be successful every day and

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Speaker 1: a lot of people just assume success just comes your way,

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Speaker 1: and that's not true. And that's that that's not fair

1257
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: to what you do every day. Like you said, man,

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Speaker 1: you did you pumped up? You want the four three forty,

1259
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Speaker 1: you sp sprint out on that field. You could trip

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Speaker 1: over a grass blade and bam, you know, to a

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Speaker 1: c L. Because it happened to my daughter. You know,

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Speaker 1: she was a tennis pro you know out there, want

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01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 1: to be the next arena. You know, week before Christ,

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01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 1: week before thanks hiving, tore a c L. Changed her

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Speaker 1: whole life, changed the whole way she thought about his process.

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01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 1: But she did lose her brain. And that's what you're

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Speaker 1: trying to get out to the kids who are walking

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01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: to even young adults who are walking up to your day.

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01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: You have more options using your brains than using your muscles,

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01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: said brother. I mean in a prioritize academics like I did,

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Speaker 1: um and it looks it sounds great now looking back

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01:09:54,960 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: on it. Right in the moment, let's talk about in

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01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: the moment, brother, when you got all these major schools

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01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: coming after you everything. One of my friends is coming

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01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: to me and saying, you're going to Columbia talk, You're

1276
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 1: not gonna make it to the NFL, not the world

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01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,639
Speaker 1: football team in the world. They don't get any coverage,

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01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: any exposure. And my peer pressure was a negative peer pressure.

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01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: No one wanted me to prioritize my books in my brain,

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01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: but I went against the grain and thankfully I did, man,

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01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: and it worked out for the best. But yeah, in

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 1: the moment, oh that was uphill Klin. Now, tell me

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01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: about this book that you're gonna have coming out this

1284
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: far because guess what you're not going in where Mr

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01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 1: Wild and saying Mr Wild, because I'll be promoting that

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01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: book when it comes out. Tell us about that book, man,

1287
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: We want to hear about it. What would it entail. Yeah,

1288
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: the book, we're still kicking around titles, but it's gonna

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01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 1: entail the journey. And the journey is about the essence

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01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: of who you are and how you can never let

1291
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: that spirit die, you can never shut that up, you

1292
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,080
Speaker 1: can never be put into that box. And I'm just

1293
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: gonna tell people through the experiences of how not to

1294
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 1: get boxed in and and the biggest enemy. Like everyone

1295
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 1: always talks about this world in terms of circumstances, that

1296
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: the crowd you hang around with and all this adversity

1297
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: surrounding you. But I heard this and change my life

1298
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: when I was young by Mark Twain that life is

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01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: a competition between you and yourself. And when I heard that,

1300
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,680
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, it's on me, and if

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen, it's because of me. And when

1302
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 1: you take that type of responsibility, things start to open

1303
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: up to you because you understand every single moment for

1304
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 1: it's important. So my book is about taking you through

1305
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: that experience and inspiring people to get the greatest out

1306
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: of themselves. And my journey from Compton to Columbia to

1307
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: NFL to EFTN is a unique journey. But I want

1308
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: to show you how your experiences can make you be

1309
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: especial as you want to be. Mr Wiley. You know

1310
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,719
Speaker 1: I've I've taken three books with Steve Harvey to number

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01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 1: one best sellers. I've sold, marketing and branded with six

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01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: million books sold worldwide, translating in thirty different languages. So

1313
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: when I tell you I'm a fan, and when I

1314
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 1: tell you trying to figure out this title, when I

1315
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 1: tell you rather to go put this book on the shelf,

1316
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 1: you come back to me, my brother, because I'm a friend. Okay,

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01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: I am here. It's more than likely it's gonna be

1318
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 1: a football season. We're gonna talking to football. We're gonna

1319
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 1: talk to this book. I look forward. There is a

1320
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: deal man, And I just gotta say this. The super

1321
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: Bowl was yesterday. That wasn't important to me. What was

1322
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 1: important to me with to get your story told on

1323
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: my show, to everybody on my Heart Radio podcast, to

1324
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 1: everybody to sit there in Atlanta, and everybody on my

1325
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation Facebook page. Because you're a very amazing guy. Man,

1326
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 1: keep winning, and look, you can kiss his brother every

1327
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: day three thirties the standard time on Sports Nation. And

1328
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 1: guess what he may pop up elsewhere. You keep winning, Brother,

1329
01:12:56,439 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: you keep winning. Man, Keep ready, Money Main Conversations, Got

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 1: a man, Charlie Ward coming up, Charlie Wall, you say,

1331
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: Charlie Wall. Yeah, We'll be right back with more from

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Speaker 1: Marsan McDonald and money Making. As host of money Making Conversations,

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01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald is uniquely positioned to provide a step by step,

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01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,680
Speaker 1: easy to understand blueprint that drives listeners to realize their

1335
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: dreams and aspirations. Until you do the business plan or

1336
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 1: incorporate or actually create that product or start selling products,

1337
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 1: the universe doesn't have to deal with. Money Making Conversations

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01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: is an innovative platform that delivers financial literacy to help

1339
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: everyone with their brand success. Good to have a money

1340
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: making conversation with somebody that makes money. Let me tell

1341
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: you about the host of money Making Conversations, Rashaan McDonald.

1342
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: He's a social media influencer. Of his seven hundred thousand

1343
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: plus social media followers are female. He's a two time

1344
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: Emmy Award winner, three time n double A CP Image

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Speaker 1: Award winner, come Writer, stand Up comic, former IBM executive,

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01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 1: and has a degree in mathematics. More importantly, Rashan McDonald

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01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: will use his business and celebrity relationships to empower small

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01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 1: businesses with information to succeed. Come on now, home Stretch, now, y'all.

1349
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,880
Speaker 1: This was Sean McDonald host The Money Making Conversation. This

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01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 1: is where I ended. I interview. I interview, That's where

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01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 1: I interview a lot of people, but I interviewed mostly

1352
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 1: industry decision making, small business owners and celebrities and learned

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01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: the secrets of their success. My next guest is from

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01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. I'm going way back at time grabbing this guy.

1355
01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: I remember several times just sitting down just talking about

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01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,600
Speaker 1: food with him in Las Vegas and Los Angeles. He

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01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 1: owns Darrow's New Orleans Grill. That's rest, that's Cajun food.

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01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: The restaurant brings classic Cajing cuisine as the to the

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Speaker 1: cars in California. Community with Jambalayah Po boys and mo

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Speaker 1: Please walk on to Money Making Conversations. Norwood Pluck Junior,

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01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: Mrs McDonald Top of them Angeles, my friends, I know

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01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 1: the top of the morning that I'm on the East coast. Man,

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01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: I missed your brother. I missed you man eighteen years man,

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01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: and you still sound handsome. What about that I'll tell you.

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01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: So here's the deal, you know, because uh, because you know,

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01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 1: you guys started me, you know, Steve Harving myself out

1367
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: there when we launched that radio show, and yuh you

1368
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,560
Speaker 1: got so much believe And when we went to the

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01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: community that you guys are like, are they in the community,

1370
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 1: because we were. You were all people, you know, we

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01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: we were the brand that we wanted to communicate with.

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01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:35,600
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden the Neighborhood Awards just

1373
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: jumped off and that was just like a blessing because

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01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: it allowed us to support the people who supported us.

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01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: And then and the see at the restaurants still out there,

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01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: you know, you know, a bang of business. I may

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01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: be in l A the tenth and I definitely would

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01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: be back on the fourteenth in l A. So you

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01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: will be seeing me, my friend coming there. Get me

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01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: one of them pull boards, a little jumbala, a little gumble.

1381
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: Why are you you do your gumbo gumbo? There's two

1382
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: types of New Orleans style okra and you never mix

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01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: it too. And so as you well aware, we don't

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01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 1: cook with any pork products. And the backstory on me,

1385
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,480
Speaker 1: my family used to cook for the world. Now Commander's

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01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: Palace in the Garden District of New Orleans over seven.

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01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: Don't don't don't you act like that's that's that's everyday

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01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: stuff the world right now. They got an in Vega.

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01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 1: They gotta command this palace and Dave Vegas, I've eat

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01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: that it's little and said my family the twenty seven years,

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01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: they're not worked for the Hillston family. And believe it

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01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,479
Speaker 1: or not, Rashaan And this is back in the day

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01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,959
Speaker 1: when colored people can work in these five star restaurants

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01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: and hotels. But you couldn't either stay there. Man. We

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01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: gave New Walance a flavor, but we don't have a

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01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 1: whole lot to show for it. Man. And guess what

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01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: but your restaurant. You know, let's give it out their

1398
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: website right quick, because I want people to go online

1399
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: and see this restaurant, this great menu, this food, all

1400
01:16:54,240 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 1: this stuff. You know a lot of people take pictures,

1401
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, like you can. You can go to those restaurant.

1402
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 1: He's had a little plate over that day. They move

1403
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: that lettuce just right, makes you they catch up slide

1404
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 1: off of that frieda not there. What they're showing you

1405
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 1: is high. It's gonna be on your plate looking good

1406
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 1: and you have a lot to offer on your portions

1407
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 1: because you know us, man, we like the doggy bag

1408
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 1: and we won't got to do. You know, we developed

1409
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 1: this concept called Darrelson Wallace Grill. It's a hybrid, it's

1410
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 1: a full bar, and we're the first of its kind

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01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: in the country, not even in New Orleans that they

1412
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 1: have this particular concept where you're able to walk into

1413
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,599
Speaker 1: a fast casual Cajun Creole either with a full bar

1414
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:37,839
Speaker 1: and no pork on the menu, and all the seafood

1415
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: is far and raising grain fed. And not only that too,

1416
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: you don't have to get everything fried. You can also

1417
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: get a grill. You know, we try to give you

1418
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 1: a healthier version of the Cajun Creole cuisine because the

1419
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 1: food down home tastes good. We'll kill you, man. Okay,

1420
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: let me ask you this is this is a really

1421
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: really important question because of the fact that you know,

1422
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: as you get older, like you said, the food, you

1423
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 1: gotta watch your diet and everything. I don't think you

1424
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: stay relevant because a lot of businesses are going out

1425
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: of businesses because you know, like tweaking, you know, they

1426
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: went out of business because people would worry about to

1427
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: get in fat, you know, worried about the food. You know,

1428
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 1: co can change his name again because people are buying

1429
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: more bottle water. Because that means the market is always changing,

1430
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 1: always putting salads on their menu, always trying to figure

1431
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: out how to keep their audience, how to keep current

1432
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: irrelevant and that diet ever changing diet market. How do

1433
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 1: you stay relevant in this in this in this ever

1434
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 1: changing market. Well, we keep our ears to the ground,

1435
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: and we keep our pulse on the millennials and what's

1436
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: going on in our community and what's going around us.

1437
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 1: Because what happens to man, I tell people all the time,

1438
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 1: it's the fact that if you have a great product,

1439
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: it has to be more than just a great product.

1440
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,919
Speaker 1: You have to find a very sophisticated way in marketing

1441
01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,799
Speaker 1: and getting the message out there. There's so many various

1442
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 1: platforms out there in terms of social media, I mean

1443
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 1: that's the new thing right now, man, where if you're

1444
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: not on the internet, if you're not on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

1445
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: and some type of social media platform, it's gonna be

1446
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: very difficult for you to get the message that you're

1447
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: trying to convey out there. And so what we try

1448
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: to do each and every day, Man, listen to the guests.

1449
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 1: We don't have customers. We have guests. When people walk

1450
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: into our establishment, man, we have to give them an

1451
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 1: experience where before they leave our eatery start thinking about

1452
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: the next trip before they leave. And that's the biggest

1453
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 1: success to right there. Man. We've been featured all over

1454
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 1: the world, man. Uh. The sixteen years we were in

1455
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: Marina del Rey, we had pot them all over the

1456
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: world eating there. We've been featured on Guys Here, We've

1457
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 1: been on the Best of the Food Network, We've been

1458
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: on the Travel Channel. Now we're on your ward winning showing.

1459
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: So we've been very fortunate and very honored that these

1460
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: type of relationships would allow us the platform to get

1461
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: the message out there. You know, just to digress for

1462
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:57,680
Speaker 1: for a second, Rishan, I've been knowing you for eighteen years. Man.

1463
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,960
Speaker 1: I met you at Sony Gower Studios when you're doing

1464
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: the Parkers and we had a little small hole in

1465
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 1: the wall of Venice. Boulevoid used to come over there.

1466
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: And when you and Steve Harvey partnered on the first

1467
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: before we went syndicated, you had us on the show.

1468
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: When we're baking for Starbucks, we want, we will want

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01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: of Starbucks first vnor of color. And you recognize that,

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Speaker 1: and you wanted to get the message out there into

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Speaker 1: the community. Said, look, man, Darrel's new Wallace girl. Uncle

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Speaker 1: Darrel's baking for Starbucks. Man, that's amazing. Can if all

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Speaker 1: the North rooms in California, Brook, Illinois, Minneapolis, NEMA, Marcus

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Speaker 1: and Beverly Hills, you know. And so those are the

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01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 1: type of things, man, that we are attribute our success to.

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01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,599
Speaker 1: It's not about one or two people. It's been about

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01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: the collective, your willingness and your unselfishness and say, hey, man,

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01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to give these folks a platform to get

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Speaker 1: their message to the general public. I will fever be

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Speaker 1: grateful for that to you. Thank you, you know, because

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Speaker 1: that's that's just been my personnelity. I'll tell people ever eighteen,

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01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: I guess it's been my nature to want to help

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01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: to be able to see a vision. First of all,

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Speaker 1: guys are visionaries, you know, And all I, all I

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01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 1: was doing was the guy that you know that that

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Speaker 1: vessel and and so so you know what he's saying

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01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: basically is that I would bring them on the radio

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01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: station and guess what they would make No advertisement, and

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01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 1: I would promote their brand because they felt I figured that, Okay,

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01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 1: if they don't win in the community, that means that,

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01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, there may not be jobs. You know, we

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01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 1: gotta pay taxes. And that was the whole basis of

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01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people missed that. They miss it. They

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01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 1: miss it. They you know, if the community is not winning,

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01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: then guess what. And that's who you're playing your music too.

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01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 1: They guess, well, you're not gonna win. You're not gonna

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01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: win because that guess what. Because because that was the

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Speaker 1: really the key, because the whole key behind the neighbor

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Speaker 1: of awards was to get people to say, okay, you

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Speaker 1: you you see a Burger King, And I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: anything negative about Burger King or even today of five guys,

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01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 1: these are promoted all the time, you know, Chick fil

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01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 1: A all the time, and people are driving right by

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01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: a restaurant. They're serving equally good food, probably at a

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01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,200
Speaker 1: cheaper price, and is right in the community. That was

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01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 1: the whole basis of the relationships I was creating with

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01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: people like Nor and his family, because hey, man, I

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01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: gotta support you guys, because you guys are winning for

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01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,639
Speaker 1: us long term and eighteen years later. Guess what we're

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01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:14,560
Speaker 1: talking on my man? Well, you know, I love you

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01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: for life. Man, coming on the president of your club.

1512
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: Because that's that's that's important to talk about right now,

1513
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: about relationships because a lot of people missed the boat

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01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 1: explained it insignificance of some of the relationships outside of me.

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01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: But there's been other people have been important, not only

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Speaker 1: just diners or as you'd like to call him. Guess

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Speaker 1: those relationships right, Well, you know what's what's pivotal to

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Speaker 1: to our success. Man was Irvin Magic Johnson when Maggie

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01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: first started. When Magic first started in business with the theaters,

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01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: his company called us, reached out to us and say, look,

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01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: we want you guys to make some products for our

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01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: theaters and fly back to Manhattan to meet with the

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01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 1: company back there, and we were in the Magic Johnson

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01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: theaters when he did the deal with Starbucks. Starbucks called

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01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: us from their corporate office. They came here to vet us, obviously,

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01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: and we went from one Starbucks stores at thirty Starbucks stores.

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Speaker 1: Magic wrote a book called h thirty two Ways to

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01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: Be a Success in Business New York Times bestseller. We

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01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 1: featured prominently in the book. Everything he has done. He's

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01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: in terms of food wise Chrishan, He's always tried to

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01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: incorporate Uncle Darrel's in there, man, So I would be

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01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: grateful for him. Felishers Shot of the Cosby's was out

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Speaker 1: here taking an episode of a Different World. Debbie Allen

1534
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: was directing the show at that time. We're selling the

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01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:36,040
Speaker 1: candy to the to the crew members and to the

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01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 1: cast of a Different World. Felister shot happened to taste

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Speaker 1: of a con candidate. We're making out flags your product.

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01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: She called us and invited us to come back to

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Speaker 1: New York to a story New York to introduce the

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01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:49,759
Speaker 1: candy to the cast members and crew of The Cosby

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Speaker 1: Show back in the time. Man, isn't that amazing? Man? Well,

1542
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Speaker 1: that that, but you had the product. Though. Here's the

1543
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: thing I want to say to you, know what is

1544
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 1: that when the call came to you, you was ready.

1545
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 1: What makes me mad with a lot of our young

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01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: people out there, or even older people out there, when

1547
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 1: the call comes to them, they're not even prepared to

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01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: be ready. So you always wanted to be ready. You

1549
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: always got up every day at the same time going there,

1550
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 1: even though you didn't see it. Happening. You knew it

1551
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 1: would happen. And when you got the call, like you said,

1552
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: Starbucks came down and vetted you guess what. You were

1553
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: just kicking around, just happy, little, good lucking guy. And

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01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: it comes down to let you go. Man, I don't

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01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: know why magic talking to these folks. They're crazy, you know.

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01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,720
Speaker 1: And that's really what we're talking about right now is preparation.

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01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: And when I look at what you're doing and what

1558
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,719
Speaker 1: you're trying to accomplish, even if you futuristic, you said, Rashan,

1559
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 1: we're trying to get in ahead of these millennials. Because

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01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: it was it was like it was a pole without

1561
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 1: saying that five years ago the millennial Mail was seventy

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01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,879
Speaker 1: were interested in the super Bowl. They took a recently

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01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: and I talked to my daughter who was at the

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01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: Universe Houston. I said, did y'all watch the super Bowl? Said?

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Speaker 1: There you go? M that blew Mail. Wait, I ain't

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01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 1: watching the super Bowl. Course your millennial you know what

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01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so that means that you're going, hey, man,

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01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: this is my next generation of customer. I cannot ignore them.

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01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm imputing that you're you're tapping into

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01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: that every day and even hiring people man and being

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01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: a tent of to the whole thing about it too.

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01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 1: You have to be nimble to be able to pivot.

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01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 1: And most times, you know, we get weather to a

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Speaker 1: vision into a belief until we're not willing to change

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01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: to look in another direction. And that's that's a sure

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01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: cause of death to man were you're not willing to

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01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 1: be able to change when necessary. I'm gonna do something.

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01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 1: It is the favorite right I have. I have a

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Speaker 1: featured you in my rus Shawn's Eats. I don't think

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01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,320
Speaker 1: I've done you have not yet. Okay, this is what

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01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna contact you. I'm gonna get

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01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: give me ten ten cold food pictures. Tend tend the

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01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: fifteen cold food pictures. And on this Sunday on my

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01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: fan Facebook, Pagriots has almost seven hundred thousand followers, I'm

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01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: gonna feature your restaurant. Feature your restaurant because people need

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01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: to know and then more and I'd be would be

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01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 1: even colder if I'm in one of those pictures at

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01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: your restaurant. You have you can't come back to the

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01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 1: Left coast without coming. No, you have to come to

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01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: You have to come to our new location. Man, you're

1591
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna be really impressed. Man. We had a vice president

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01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 1: of a franchise company out of Florida came into our place.

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01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 1: The moment he walked in, he's wow, this is not

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01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: even tasting the food. And then after he tastes the food,

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01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 1: he said, nor what no one in the country is

1596
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 1: in the world is doing what you guys are doing

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01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 1: right now. He's been calling me, emailing me, he's been

1598
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: romancing me, trying to franchise. But we gotta keep our

1599
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: powder dry because every dollar is not a good dollar.

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01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 1: So we have to make sure that this concept has proven.

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01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: In order for us to know that this concept has legs,

1602
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: we have to go into other markets. See, most time

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01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: we have a misfire because we we're too ready to

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01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: make a decision that we're not ready for it. Man, Hey, man,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get out of here. But check this out.

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Speaker 1: Darryl's New Orleans Grill and Carson City, California, I Grill,

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Speaker 1: Darrel's Darrow's at D A. R. R Ow, New Orleans

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Speaker 1: Grill and Carson Correct. Thank you, thank you. We'll be

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Speaker 1: Shawn is looking for great bakers for his baker spot

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Speaker 1: like he wants to brag on his fans for their

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Speaker 1: You said to yourself, who calls with Sean shell Rickie smiling?

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Speaker 1: You got to get out of your own city and

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Speaker 1: leave in order to group. Because a fish don't get

1629
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Speaker 1: bigger as long as it's inside of that dish boat.

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Speaker 1: Just get bigger when you put it in a punt.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please blocking the phone. The one and

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Speaker 1: only Charlie Wilson. So many people have really been trying

1633
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Speaker 1: to get me to do a gospel record for so

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Speaker 1: many years. And I've been promising God that I would,

1635
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Speaker 1: I would shout him out to do something. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna be doing in concerts and

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Speaker 1: little clubs. Thank you, Thank you so that I can

1640
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Speaker 1: touch you when I'm sitting with my hands. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: See I told you be there every Monday, ten am noon.

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Speaker 1: on the phone is a Higsman Trophy winner. See what

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Speaker 1: happens to you? Always gonna be a Highsman Trophy winner.

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Speaker 1: It's not a farmer. You always gonna be a Highsma

1647
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Speaker 1: TROPHI winner. He led Florida State and I watched you

1648
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Speaker 1: old TV to the National Championship as a quarterback top

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Speaker 1: of that first round draft pick of New York Knicks.

1650
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Speaker 1: Watched them all those years in the NBA as a

1651
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Speaker 1: point guard. He's on my show right now to promote

1652
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Speaker 1: the release of his new book, The Athlete. Please welcome

1653
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Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations, Charlie Ward. Good morning afternoon, which

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Speaker 1: come on, I'm on East Coast. I mean, because I'm

1655
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Georgia, Charlie, I'm in Atlanta, Georgia. You know

1656
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 1: you're still in Florida, your Florida. Yeah, I'm Southern Florida.

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Speaker 1: There you go, there, you go doing your thing. Hey, Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: First of all, you know, you know, I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 1: you something. Man, you are a hero. Okay, let me

1660
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 1: get that out the way first. Let's let's understand because

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01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:19,519
Speaker 1: when you won that National championship, you wore a black quarterback. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and that mits something, that meant something, That meant something, brother,

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Speaker 1: and that won't change. And uh yes, yes, I guess

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01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:33,600
Speaker 1: my story behind that was. You know, of course they

1665
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 1: went to Florida State. I played for the legendary board.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that coach Bowden hadn't done.

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Speaker 1: While he was at Florida State, was played a black quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And so when um, when people and I shows and

1669
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: was looking at going through Florida State, people were questioning

1670
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Speaker 1: whether I should go because they never played a black quarterback.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that I coach black Coach Bottom

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Speaker 1: was his uh, his Christian beliefe and he had also

1673
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Speaker 1: one of the things I wanted to do in college

1674
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: was played basketball and football, and so he had allowed

1675
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,720
Speaker 1: Brad Johnson to do that. And you know, in my

1676
01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: in my town, people like, well, I don't think you

1677
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 1: should go because he's never played a black quarterback. And

1678
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 1: University of Georgia was on my list as well, and

1679
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 1: they had But one of the things I admired most

1680
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,799
Speaker 1: about Coach Baum was he had history on his side.

1681
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 1: He allowed Brad to play basketball and so uh. And

1682
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 1: he also told me that I had to be patients.

1683
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 1: And when I got to school, Um, I became the

1684
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: putner my freshman year. You down, I read your book down.

1685
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your parents now. Now your mama, your

1686
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: mama cold Bobby bout. It reminded him that you are

1687
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: uncomfortable because he was slow and making the decision on

1688
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: whether you should be like play basketball, your mama not

1689
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: your daddy. Let's talk about your great daddy. One team

1690
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,879
Speaker 1: they had Bobby Hayes on it, that family, the Ratlers,

1691
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: who should have played the NFL, but he tore his

1692
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: me in the last game of his senior year. Let's

1693
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: talk about let's talk about see I don't want to see.

1694
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 1: People need to read this book because this is a

1695
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 1: book about family. This is a book about when the

1696
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,960
Speaker 1: family stands up for their child, when a child allowed

1697
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 1: a child to go through life and support him. But

1698
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 1: guess what. Guess what, you know a lot of people

1699
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 1: talk about lazo ball and all this stuff and all

1700
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: that you know, but man, you if your mom and

1701
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 1: dad's there for you had both supports us. But your

1702
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: mama do your mom sat down with him and go, look,

1703
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 1: it's my son gonna play quarterback. Because remember I read

1704
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: the book. Because Bobby Boden didn't think you are a quarterback.

1705
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 1: He didn't have you on his list to be one

1706
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 1: of the recruits. He had to be sold in the

1707
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 1: pitch meeting. And so when you got there, you you

1708
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: know everybody. So when you saw you play, oh yeah yeah,

1709
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: And so so it was your family. They played a

1710
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: major role. Let's talk a little bit about that because

1711
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 1: I felt it important because that's why I took away

1712
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:16,799
Speaker 1: from the book because the first two chapters basically dedicated

1713
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 1: to your family. Correct, that is true. And uh, one

1714
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 1: of the things that my mom and dad taught us

1715
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 1: was being supportive of one another. And so they're they're supportive.

1716
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: Actually went in debt following behind Man college. But we

1717
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:37,799
Speaker 1: supported one another. Of six siblings, Fosters and two brothers,

1718
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: and so we have a large family and they're major

1719
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,720
Speaker 1: um selling portant. And things that they taught us was

1720
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: we got to be supportive of one another and in

1721
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 1: the same same way today. And so and I'm not

1722
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 1: you know something, I'm not saying nothing negative by Bobby Bowden.

1723
01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that. I'm just saying the process was

1724
01:33:58,200 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 1: that your parents you know whenever you because that's why

1725
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 1: that's how I end with my daughter. I want my

1726
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,679
Speaker 1: daughter to be able to call me. She's in college

1727
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 1: right now, she's not playing sports. I want to be

1728
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: able to call me if she's uncomfortable. And that's the

1729
01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 1: type of relationship you had with your parents that if

1730
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 1: you felt uncomfortable. You could call them and guess what

1731
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 1: they would initiate the parental responsibilities of getting their child

1732
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 1: being an adult and intervene yes. And you know, I

1733
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 1: was grateful to be able to have a mom to

1734
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 1: be able to call and get inspiration and words of encouragement,

1735
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: which um was not just the first year, but it

1736
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 1: was throughout absolutely because I had had a sit down,

1737
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:47,280
Speaker 1: drag out talk with her when I started playing quarterback, because, um,

1738
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,719
Speaker 1: I really didn't want to talk to the media because

1739
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 1: I've just been like talking to the media. I was

1740
01:34:54,320 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: wondering why didn't want to talk to me now that

1741
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm the starting quarterback, and she was just saying, Hey,

1742
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:02,320
Speaker 1: this is what you have to go through. This is

1743
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 1: part of the process of being the starting quarterback on

1744
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: the national ranked team. And I just had to learn

1745
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: that sometimes you have to go through things, um and

1746
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 1: do things that you don't want to do in order

1747
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: to achieve your goal. So that's one of the things

1748
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 1: that she told me a lot, and being able to

1749
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 1: call her was definitely a great blessing. You know, the

1750
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: book we're talking about is called The Athlete, is about

1751
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 1: the life story the professional care in collegiate in high

1752
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 1: school career from Thomas Field, Georgia of Charlie Ward, an

1753
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 1: incredible high school athlete who was injured in high school

1754
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 1: and who's injured to the point that the question whether

1755
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 1: you would have an athletic career because when he when

1756
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: he got in the field actually play, that was a

1757
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,640
Speaker 1: little controversy because mom wasn't in the stands and you

1758
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: really wasn't supposed to be on the field that day

1759
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 1: in that high school game, but you but that said

1760
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: that that created the legend. Correct, Uh yet so um

1761
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 1: and dad called the brother of it. He was my

1762
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: coach during that time, and I wasn't clear to play quarterback,

1763
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: and I was clear to punt, but I wasn't far

1764
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 1: to play quarterback. And my mom got to the game late,

1765
01:36:17,240 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 1: and that was ahead of me. I had injured, So

1766
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,679
Speaker 1: I was I was the the out man in a sense,

1767
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,839
Speaker 1: and so my dad had to make a parent decision

1768
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 1: as a coach. Uh, we're not telling mom? When not

1769
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: telling mom now because Mom was walking into the stadium.

1770
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,640
Speaker 1: But you know as a coach, as a coach, you

1771
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 1: don't have yourself back then. He uh, you know, he

1772
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't have called you know, he wouldn't have called your mom,

1773
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,680
Speaker 1: you know right now, because she said she's shut it

1774
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 1: all down, brother, shut it all down. But I wanted

1775
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:56,400
Speaker 1: to ship a little bit because you have another strong

1776
01:36:56,600 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: lady in your life. It's your wife and and you know,

1777
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,719
Speaker 1: because that means you have very two, very significant females

1778
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 1: in your life, your mom and your wife. And I

1779
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,680
Speaker 1: took that away from the book too, that she's you know,

1780
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: she always had that supercase, that suitcase pack just in case,

1781
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:15,599
Speaker 1: because you know, it was trade conscer, trade rooms about

1782
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: you with when you was at New York. You know,

1783
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 1: even though you were the first round draft pick, you

1784
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 1: know you're gonna get traded here and get traded there.

1785
01:37:22,240 --> 01:37:26,000
Speaker 1: But she was always and willing to support you at

1786
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: any any cause, even today, even today. And I think

1787
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 1: that's important. That's what I took away from the book.

1788
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:35,560
Speaker 1: It was like the value of family and the and

1789
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 1: the value of God in your life. How significant it is,

1790
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:47,640
Speaker 1: right And I'm truly grateful because as a professional, you know,

1791
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: it's a high rate of divorce and I'm woman in

1792
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 1: my life, she sacrificed a lot. And what I mean

1793
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:59,599
Speaker 1: by a lot, she's a lawyer, she's a career oriented woman.

1794
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 1: And she's been willing to pick up and leave. Not willing,

1795
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 1: but sometimes, um, she's been able to do it. And

1796
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 1: I'm grateful. Um now that I'm going out and doing

1797
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:16,880
Speaker 1: a lot of speaking engagement, Oh yeah, and different things. Right,

1798
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 1: she managing your career, not y'all, she manages Yeah. Yeah.

1799
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 1: Let's go and tell the truth. Let's go and tell

1800
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 1: the Truth's tell the truth. That's why it because she's

1801
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,559
Speaker 1: doing what your mom told you should do long time ago. Talk.

1802
01:38:32,160 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 1: Because you have a brilliant story. Man, you have a

1803
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 1: brilliant story, Charlie telling Charlie. I read your book from

1804
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 1: front to back, okay, and I read it because each

1805
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: each chapter told me a little bit about the process.

1806
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,440
Speaker 1: You know, they talked about Joey and Bede in Philadelphia.

1807
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: You dealt with the process. You dealt with people doubting you.

1808
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: You dealt with people even in some INSes when you

1809
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 1: didn't get drafted by the NFL, which was a crazy

1810
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 1: insult to your ability, but did turn right around be

1811
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:03,759
Speaker 1: a first round draft pick for the New York Knicks.

1812
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: That's amazing. So so you need to be out there

1813
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 1: every day, man, and to tell your story. Man, because

1814
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:14,080
Speaker 1: if you're not read the Athlete, go to Amazon get

1815
01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 1: that book today. This is an amazing book about an

1816
01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: amazing man. Because guess what he is a I'm not

1817
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 1: saying that negative. He's a simple guy, hard work, believing God,

1818
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:30,640
Speaker 1: and he's honest. What's wrong with that? Jolly well? I

1819
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:35,400
Speaker 1: appreciate that. And I ain't never talk no guy like

1820
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: this guy here need to be my manager to that, right.

1821
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: I know that's right, brother, you gotta be You gotta

1822
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 1: be appreciated, man, because like I said, when you won

1823
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 1: the national championship for the Florida State similar, I was

1824
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: watching the no TV man, and you know, and and

1825
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:58,640
Speaker 1: when when you know, when they kicked that field goal

1826
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 1: and they went wide right? Why I left whatever they

1827
01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 1: missed it? I I felt, I felt, I felt proud

1828
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 1: of you, man, because I knew your journey. It wasn't

1829
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 1: an easy journey back then. It's not. It's not an

1830
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,759
Speaker 1: easy journey right now. Even though we have you know Watson,

1831
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: and we have you know a Cam Newton, all these

1832
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,560
Speaker 1: guys playing quarterback today, it's still a rough journey for

1833
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: an African American quarterback in your life. Man's testimony to

1834
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 1: keep faith first, family right there, You're gonna win, that's sir.

1835
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 1: All those things are very very important to be successful,

1836
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 1: that's for sure. You do me a fact, you tell

1837
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 1: your manager wife, get me a social media banner, and

1838
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna post this book on my social media platform

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Speaker 1: athlete of story about the incredible, the athlete, the incredible

1841
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Speaker 1: Charlie Ward. This is Julie. Hey, calendar, what's my morning like?

1842
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1843
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1844
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