WEBVTT - Episode 315 w/ Tank 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:03.400 Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:19.920 and I Heart Radio and his drinks motherfucking podcast. He's 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:22.880 a legendary Queen's rappers. He's said that's your boy here, 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.840 No R, He's a Miami hippop pioneer. D J e 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:29.280 f N. Together they drinking up with some of the 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:34.639 biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:38.960 number one sorts for drunk backs. Motherfucks New Year's e 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:49.680 just for Drink Champs. Trick up on the what it 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:51.239 could be Hopeley would have should be. This is your 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.360 point in o R. What up is d J e 0:00:53.440 --> 0:00:56.200 f N and this drink chap yapao make some No. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.600 And right now when I'm when I'm talking about the 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:05.160 guests to the left of me, I am talking about 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:10.400 R and B phenomenon. I'm listening to his music and 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:13.440 I'm trying to look for old o'tune. I'm trying to 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.039 look for the cheek codes. And now this is a 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:20.199 this is a he's hanks. I he arrails hands, Hans 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:24.200 he hit that. No, he came here, loved man. Let's 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:27.279 get it. Don't camera, don't caumecra, don't get you don't camera. 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:32.800 This man has been out there working doing what he 0:01:32.840 --> 0:01:37.720 gotta do, and this motherfucking field always happy every time 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:42.280 I see it. So case you don't know who the 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.559 hell I'm talking about, because he's gonna sing your girls 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:50.600 panties off, and this is true. Case you don't know 0:01:50.600 --> 0:02:01.800 how'm talking about, what only to say inevitable camera. Yeah, 0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:07.320 for the record, we're coming off this oscars, right, I 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.280 just want to stay off top. I'm scared of world Smith, like, 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:14.160 you don't vote for them, right. I've met Will a 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:18.160 few times. I've I've never met Chris Rock. Okay, okay, 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.560 Well one time I met Chris Rock talk. It was 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.520 in the party and if I'm talking and sayd hey, Chris, 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.480 you no take a picture? And Chris is like, what 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.959 is the world going to? The um? I want the 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:32.840 picture with Noriega and Chris Rock. And I was like, 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.600 I couldn't tell that. First of all, it wasn't funny. 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:38.000 That wasn't funny to me. And then I was like, 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.760 and I started to think about it that comedians don't 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:43.600 know how to turn off being So what did you see? 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.600 What did you see when when you first saw that? 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:47.600 Where was you at? What what was you saying to yourself? 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:54.919 I saw I saw a man fat up. I saw 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:57.760 a man feed up. You know what I mean? I 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.600 think when we when we look at Will, we we 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:06.040 want to paint this perfect picture because to us, you know, 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:09.680 he is a king. He is that standard, that bob, 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.480 and so we we we great him on a very 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.280 high scale. Will is not allowed to make mistakes, he's 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:19.160 not allowed to have bad days. He's not a lot 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.920 of it's a lot of pressure. And then I see 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:28.560 the wife, you know, who's been enduring, you know, enduring 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:33.160 for the last however long, and I just saw a 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:38.400 breaking point. And the joke probably wasn't the worst joke 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:42.920 that's been said. We've seen some crazier jokes. But sometimes 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:46.400 it's just the straw that breaks the camels. Question under 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.000 what I'm saying, Like, weird at a breaking point. So 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.480 even this straw right here, it may not be all 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:53.960 about you, but this little straw that you just put 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.360 on that camel's back, it was enough to send me. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.320 Now was he wrong? I don't know, I don't know. 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:08.440 I want your opinion. I just up listen. Yes he 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:16.640 was wrong, undoubtably a full chest wrong. Now here's what 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:21.200 you do know, sometimes you have to go there to 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:31.440 let people know that you will. Yeah, I equated to 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.800 talking to shot earlier. I equated to being on the 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:41.960 basketball court. Right. There are fouls, and there are technical fouls, right, 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:45.120 and so at a certain point in the game, when 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.280 you're trying to send a message to the other team, 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.479 you may say, you know what, for the sake of 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:55.080 the energy moving forward, I need to not issue a 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:59.200 regular fiul. I need to issue a technical foul. So 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.279 you mother fuckers. No, I will go there if I 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.640 have to. Because I felt him when he said keep 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:09.559 my wife's name, I'll keep motherfucking mouth. That's I said. 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.520 I was immediately scared of the person who made parents 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.799 don't understand. You don't mess with said, I've been judged. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.960 I missed judge this for years. Leave a man, leave 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:24.960 a man's money alone, leave a man's kids alone, leave 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:29.200 a man's food alone, and by God, leave a man's 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:35.400 wife alone. Just like that, Just because the last time 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.160 act like this is the first time a comedian has 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:41.200 been ran up on, not just magnitude though, I got it. Yeah, 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:43.960 but this is commonplace. You can look in the crowd. 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:46.320 I do comedy. You can look at the crowd and 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:50.720 tell I shouldn't talk about him because he's already giving 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:52.960 me the place, like, don't bring that ship over here 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.400 like I'm enjoying myself. But I will. I will do that. 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.960 You know what I'm saying, Comedians so this, I don't 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:04.640 think anybody could have anticipated that. But because he didn't smack, 0:06:04.720 --> 0:06:07.760 he smacked the internet. He smacked the means all the 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.560 jokes that did be said every time Tupac is bored up, 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.720 they'd be saying, it's like some funny ship. He's tired 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.240 of that. He smacked. It's like a pressure, just like 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.040 that's what it was. Fed up. Will has the size 0:06:21.680 --> 0:06:25.960 he has to reach. Have you seen Chris thought about that? 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:29.520 Chris say, man, let me just let it go. That's 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:33.719 the disappointed. If I walk up on you and swing 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.760 on you, I know it's something coming behind that we're 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:42.039 going to wrestle fight this thing out. I needed Chris Rock. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:48.960 I needed him to just give me so good. He's 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:57.720 taking like a taking like a let me tell you something. 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:00.000 He took it like a g let me tell you something. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.080 When they say when they say, I'm saying, it could 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.080 have gone crazy, it could have gone crazy, but let 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:07.400 me just like it's supposed to. At that moment, it 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:09.400 felt like the Sauce Awards. It doesn't even be like 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:15.080 you right when you smack me automatic. That's another part 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.960 I forgot. He didn't want him. He's the ultimate, but 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:20.840 I think the smack is worse in the punch. You're 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:27.880 treated me like I got penny holes on, like coming hard? No, 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:40.880 what is this? Like? I can't That was because it's 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.720 Oscars and the truth. Let me just tell you something. 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:46.400 I've never been in the Oscars. I've never I'm just 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:50.000 I just I felt like it's there awards show, right. 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.120 I always felt like that this you know more is 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:55.120 boycotting that, but I always felt like it was their 0:07:55.120 --> 0:08:01.440 award show. But they had my man producing it. Um Wacker, Yeah, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.800 woll Packer. And don't I feel like every time they 0:08:04.960 --> 0:08:07.320 like we do get something like we do something for 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:10.760 ourselves up, like like I want to do real Smith 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:15.320 is gonna smack with Rock. That's a fucking just there 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:20.240 was sound like a joke like like here's the thing. Okay, okay, 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:25.320 we are event for We're an eventful people like that 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:30.400 somehow another the stars always line for us to have 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.840 a moment when we're trying to have a moment. That 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.200 was good. This just just what it is sometimes, man. 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.880 And shout out to Willpacker for for producing a hell 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:46.400 of a show. The show was actually good. Very proud 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.160 of Will pack Great show you get because I don't 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:51.040 like award shows it did. It looks like it has 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:54.480 no soul and you could tell before I knew Will 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.120 Packer was doing it, I could tell this was made 0:08:57.120 --> 0:09:00.839 with soul. Somebody, somebody who's producing this soul and their 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.760 motherfucker looking out for me and wanted me to watch 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.960 absolutely aslutely so, have you ever been in an access 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:11.440 I've never been to the oscars. I've never been invited. Um, 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.199 I can don't consider myself an actor. You know. I 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:18.240 have some big BET blockbusters as well as some some 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.640 major TV one blockbuster. Did you see me in the 0:09:20.640 --> 0:09:24.360 new edition? Starts Joe bust me? You didn't, Okay, that's fine. 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.640 Anybody in here and see me, That's fine. I hate it. 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:36.000 I'm like, I'm a big deal on BT Okay, nothing 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.320 made to the big screen yet I'm on my way. 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.440 I'm gonna need your support, so you're doing you know 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:43.720 they don't invite me, so you know what. The Oscars 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.240 they't invited me yet. You know, I guess they don't 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:49.360 nominate BT movies and TV one movies. But we're getting there, 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.720 We're making progress. How about the Grammys? What do you 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:54.920 what do you in terms of that? Like your photogrammis? 0:09:54.920 --> 0:10:00.319 Are you like the Grammys? I'm not. I'm not saying 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:06.600 funck the Grammys. Okay, I'm never say that, But I 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:12.959 can't say there is a need for immediate change. This 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:17.280 gradual we're working on it. Oh, we're gonna get to it. 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:23.280 Not gonna work because music is ever changing. As we 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.400 see now that these platforms have come in, all these 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.959 new platforms that have come into place to help monetize 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.800 music more and give more visibility to certain kinds of artists, 0:10:32.840 --> 0:10:38.320 the landscape is completely different. And you have a format 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:42.800 that is catered to traditional to traditional music or the 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.200 traditional style of judging music, you can't do that no more. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:51.000 You just can't, like case in point, like when oz 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:58.360 was going crazy. Of course, if you don't, if you're 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.840 not in the festivals, if you're not tapping into that 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.680 place where that music is played, you don't know how 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.480 massive that kid is you don't know to put him 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.600 in the top rap categories at your Grammys because you 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:13.240 don't know. Everything you're doing is still done in a 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:18.120 traditional space, different metrics. So it has to change, and 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:22.360 people who understand the new metrics have to be integrated 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.680 into the Grammys or they're gonna or they're gonna lose 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.760 touch with everybody. They're gonna lose touch with everybody, and 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:35.560 these things have to be televised. Like I argue this, UM, 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:40.760 shout out to hear those guys. I love everybody. Um, 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.120 you know, shout out to BT, shoutout to Soul training, 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:45.680 all these guys. But accused me that the R and 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:54.199 B best R and B category is not televised. Why 0:11:54.200 --> 0:12:00.000 why why can't we Why can't I love be seen? Huh, 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.880 sexuality be saying that's crazy. I didn't even that. I 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:08.000 don't want to hurt nobody, nobody. You know what I'm saying. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.880 My songs are you know, your phones are different. You 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:16.040 know what I'm saying. But yet, and not against hip hop, 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:18.720 you have more of a platform to say and do 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.440 the things you need to do versus me. I'm just 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:26.520 selling love. But I digress. So I think the format 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.760 needs to be adjusted. In the way you adjust that 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:33.680 format is by integrating people who know what the fund 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:37.440 is going on right now, right like we like we're 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:41.160 supposed to be at the the championship of that, Like 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.520 when these these awards and things like that, it's supposed 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:44.719 to be some of us in the room. Is that 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:48.800 what you're intended? Absolutely? Yeah, in the room and listen. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:53.080 It can't be everybody can't be over thirty. Everybody can't 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:58.760 be over forded. Okay, but a sixty five year old listen, 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:00.600 I don't care how long I don't already trying to 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:05.200 hang on. He should not be voting in just shouldn't 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.560 be doing it right the pop category. He should listn't. 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.080 If he want to vote on smooth jazz, let let 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:16.040 him do that. But there has to be changed, and 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.160 the integration has to happen now or you're gonna lose 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.560 touch with the culture R and B and hip hop 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:24.200 for that matter. Let me let me ask you changing 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:25.959 it up a little bit. One thing I can hear 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:27.360 from you, like I could. I can hear when I'm 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.760 listening to your music, I could tell you was raising 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:33.760 the church boy. Are you absolutely like it? Says that, 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:37.080 and I know that's we're real singers. It always it 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:39.960 starts out like that. How do you feel I'm switching 0:13:40.000 --> 0:13:41.560 it up a little bit? How do you feel about 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.840 people who don't go to that, people who just take 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.520 the easy route out and go order tune and then 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:49.400 they can't even perform live because they're really not they 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:53.160 can't sing at all. I love it. I did not 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.120 expect that. I love it. It's a place for all 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.880 of its love. Because listen, there are R and B R, 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:04.360 and there are R and B singers. There's a difference. 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:10.760 I need them so that the highlight of what I 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:15.480 do is personified even more. You're gonna get some of that. 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:18.960 You canna have playtime over there, you know what I'm saying, 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:21.720 and enjoy them. Tune the lyrics in Maryland, I I 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.040 turned the tune on. Sometimes I turned it on to 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.600 the aesthetic for the sound, tap into the youth. But 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.000 when you want to hear a real singer, when you 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:32.440 want your soul touched, you know what I'm saying. When 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.360 you when you when ladies, when you want your inner 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:43.200 secretions to flow in section, I don't want to after 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:47.920 that mean, I know what it means. Then you come 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:53.440 see R B singer. And again I always, I always 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.960 try to speak to the equality of a thing. If 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.920 you're gonna give the guys with the auto tune all 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.760 the mainstream look, then give the vocal listen real singers 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:06.320 some mainstream looks as well. We're asking let make some 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:15.360 that would be the equivalent of lyricists m c s. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.760 And some that aren't. But they make dope music. They 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.440 make dope music. Some some rappers are stylists, you know 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.120 what I'm saying, where it's like a voice you just 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.600 can't deny, you know what I'm saying. Some rappers are 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.320 good at making songs. The hook is fired the body 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:30.040 of the so so maybe a few lines. And then 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:34.040 some are just flat out lyricists to where there are bars, 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.640 you know what I'm saying. That they're just undefeated. So 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.720 it's room for all of it. I just want us 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.160 to be able to I'm an R and B singer. Man, 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:52.400 let me eat too, Let me with my big right right? 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:57.840 Are you drinking beer? Is that pace efical? Yeah? He 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:15.920 might be met Say so when I googled you it, 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:23.880 say so. When I doled you seen you will see 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:28.480 slack for performing at a Black gay pride event. Yeah, 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:33.560 why would you see slack for that? You you tell me, 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:39.040 I'm asking you. He saw your tweet. You know, I 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:41.840 think it's I think it's just a disconnect. I'm not 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.080 gonna understand that, you know what I mean. I think 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.840 I'm gonna speak. You know, in terms of the Black community, 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:51.600 there's a there's a stigma, and there's there's there's a 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:55.640 hate that goes along with being gay, right right, And 0:16:55.720 --> 0:17:00.440 oftentimes in our language, to even um to I mean 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:04.400 the greater person to the lowest, we can degrade them. 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:09.919 We use gay. It's the adjective. And so that carries 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.480 on even into entertainment. So paint the picture for you. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.280 Guy Brian who used to manage your fantasia, who's a 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.879 gay man, who's my friend. He said, hey, man, what 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:22.720 do you think about performing a gay pride in d C? 0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:26.640 I said, yeah, well we kind I'm from DC. Yeah, 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.920 I said, I said, ship, we're kind of back. The 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:32.280 guy he said, they got this kind of bag. I'm 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:38.560 all the way right. And so we we get in 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:42.800 there and and the first thing you say, are you 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.840 gonna take your shirt off? And I said, you called me, 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:52.160 I'll do what I do. I do a thing I'm 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.000 not scared of im. I's not gonna rub off on 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:57.720 me because I had to do my show right. So 0:17:57.840 --> 0:18:01.560 I go out there and I'm doing the first song right, 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.800 and as I'm singing my first song, I just kind 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:07.000 of noticed I'm scanning the crowd. You know, they don't 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:08.879 know how to receive me at this time. I'm not 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:13.440 knowing I'm the first straight mail artists to ever do it. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:15.960 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not knowing the energy and 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.399 my understanding why all these questions are, you know, surrounding this. 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:21.159 So I get out there and you know, I finished 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.520 my first song and the explosions going out bad bad. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:29.960 They're like, all right, don't like this, y'all trying to 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:36.639 masculinity and saying the sisters don't turn out now. I 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:41.760 came to see you all and they said yeah. And 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:46.800 it was at that moment that they understood, like, I 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:50.160 have no judgment for you in your lifestyle. I only 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.400 have love for you as a human being. You also 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.399 are the reason why I'm able to feed my family, 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.240 So I love you for that and I'm gonna I'm 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:02.160 gonna entertain. Ain't the same way I would entertain on 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.080 any stage, whether it's a bunch of girls in the 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:05.760 front row a bunch of guys in the front room. 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:10.280 I'm securing my ship. I'm secure. I don't feel like 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:11.680 I'm gonna walk into a game room and all of 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:16.160 something become gay. Right, And so when the backlash comes 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:17.879 and people are saying, oh, he must be gay, I 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:19.959 can laugh at that because that's not the worst thing 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.919 you can call me, right, because I don't see it 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.840 is that. So I just did Pride in Dallas. Where's 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:32.920 the bag? As I got fans there? Do they got 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:37.080 the bag? I'm on the way. You sure you want 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:38.520 to take picture? You goddamn r I don't want to 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.359 take pictures, and ain't really if it ain't photographs, they 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:45.159 don't hit the ground there in full support. So and 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:46.840 I told him, I said, once we get out of 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.360 once we get out of this hate space and are 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.879 willing to have a real sit down and try to 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.280 understand each other and do it in love, it's always 0:19:56.280 --> 0:20:00.639 gonna be this barrier between so many things. So for me, 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.760 I leave with love. Man, I don't care what it 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.359 is like. We had Jason Lee on here um and 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.320 I had to ask him the question that we asked 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:10.240 everyone else. You know what I mean, because if not, 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.720 wouldn't have been that. You know what the question is, 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:20.679 does he eat? Ask? Wow, you want to go? Just 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:26.199 talk to me. Brother. I'm here on the club. I 0:20:26.359 --> 0:20:31.919 hate the same Jason Lee's a whole different kind of ass, 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:42.359 remember I mean Harry answer, He's right, but the club, 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.160 so obviously you say you do eat as just be clear, 0:20:45.840 --> 0:20:55.080 woman's asked, woman's woman. I just want to keep this clear. 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:59.200 They're gonna try to find a way. So we also 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.600 had Trick Daddy on here, and Trick Daddy said he 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:09.600 not only he enjoys being an ass, eat a booty gang, 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.720 eat the moody and I he said, he got legs 0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:17.600 up and everything. I said, No, no legs up, he said, 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:26.119 and he asked you to. But Trick, Trick Daddy is 0:21:26.160 --> 0:21:32.960 the president, and we are members in this cart not 0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:37.080 always legs up. We don't always. You know what I 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:39.800 was gonna be that compromise up a little bit. You 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.040 know what I'm saying, This scotch up. What I'm saying, 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:54.720 I feel like, you know you chest no, no, And 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:57.879 he wears a bit, you wear a bit no nothing, 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:04.280 Oh my god. Yeah, no, listen, man, it's a man 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:07.280 and a woman, you know, being consensual about things that 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.840 you know what I'm saying, there are there are lines 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.280 draw hey, don't just don't know. No no, poke pokey. 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:31.359 He toned that down, you know what I'm saying. You know, 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:34.959 but the first time it did happen to me, I was, 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:36.760 you know what, I don't know why I'm doing this. 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:42.280 I was in my Susie Rodeo and I'm sorry, Susie 0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:45.600 Rodo Suo rodeo. You know how long ago that was 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:58.120 radio and I was thinking the older woman at the time, 0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:01.160 and she was like me, you know, show your first time, 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:04.400 my first time. You got the first time. Eventually, that's 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.200 how I got, you know, brought into this world. Check 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:11.119 that he world. And uh and and you know, I 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:13.240 you know, I haven't had my legs up on the 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:19.240 head resting it. You know, it's very tick It tickled 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:23.719 before I could actually enjoy it, right, so you know, 0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:33.639 and and it's like wow, wow, wow, he re funked 0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:39.080 up my child. A second he was on the road 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.040 and I told you, I can really went smoke weeds. 0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:45.320 So only we would smoke weeds so I went to 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.800 his room. He just did not ask him. He's like 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:51.600 he was playing video games. He just went to turn 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:55.879 on the TV and he just he had his legs 0:23:55.880 --> 0:24:01.280 on the TV on the because you know, yeah himself, 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:06.000 so take We don't know if you know. The show 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.520 was about giving out flower giving giving out flowers, showing 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:11.880 people to love while they are alive and while they stand, 0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.640 and showing people how great they are. So no doubt, 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:25.080 we want to give your flowers live and flash being 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:31.000 what the hell you all lifetimes? A lifetime? We changed 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:36.199 the time fire. Thank you brother. So let me ask you. 0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:39.000 Moving around, We're gonna get back to the later, you 0:24:39.040 --> 0:24:43.600 know anything, So what do you what do you? What 0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:48.040 do you still love about this game? It's that's changed 0:24:48.160 --> 0:24:53.720 for me. Um before what I loved about this game 0:24:53.880 --> 0:25:00.399 was everything that I had to offer, very selfish about 0:25:00.400 --> 0:25:02.040 the way I was gonna sing to him, about the 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:03.879 way I was going to perform, by the way I 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:06.280 was going to write it and produce it and deliver 0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.760 it me how I'm going to do it right. Every 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:11.919 every show, every time I wake up, I'm about to 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:17.520 kill these I'm like kill him right. And now it's 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:25.520 I can't wait to build up this next singer songwriter 0:25:25.680 --> 0:25:29.879 producer so that they can go kill on R and 0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:33.199 B's behalf. I can't wait to give everything that I 0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:40.840 have to somebody else. That's what drives me now, because like, 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:42.840 what good is the game if it? If it dies 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:47.480 with me? You have to right and that, and that's 0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:51.479 how you truly truly build. That's how you truly create 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:56.960 a legacy when your arms extend as far as humanly possible. 0:25:57.080 --> 0:26:01.040 Right if an artist thirty years down the line says 0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:03.520 all of this was made possible because one day Tank 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:05.240 gave me a call and said, I believe in you, 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.960 and we're going to make something great happen. I've done 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:13.360 my job. I've done my job because that that's my 0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:18.679 true gift. My true gift is championing and supporting and 0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:21.480 putting the battery. You can do it. I used to 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.679 have a kid, uh that used to sing backgrounds with 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:29.640 me my name and Luke James right, and and Luke 0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:31.439 James just also live well, so you can live with me. 0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:33.080 Man A said, first of all, you need to be 0:26:33.080 --> 0:26:35.119 writing songs. You need to be doing all this stuff 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:36.720 like this is what you need to be doing. It's 0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:38.560 the first song he wrote was on my albums. That 0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.920 club and pain Right brought him in and we're singing back, 0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:43.879 We're singing. He's on the road singing backgrounds with men. 0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:45.720 I got my guys standing back there doing that thing. 0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.480 And one day we're at the house. You're singing, going 0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:51.719 back and forth, you know, sharpening the tools, and he 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:56.280 goes into this high active Mariot Carrie Slash. I was like, 0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:00.560 it's like, NICKI, it's crazy. I said, this is what 0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:02.119 we're gonna do. We're gonna go on my stage and 0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:03.879 I'm gonna call you out and I'm gonna say if 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:08.399 Maxwell was here, what would he do? That kid? And 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.560 then I want you to go crazy? And this kid 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:15.560 stood at the front of my stage and almost took 0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:21.480 over my entire show every night. I had to fight 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:26.880 to get my show back little James every night. But 0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.240 I wanted him to do that. I wanted them to 0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:33.240 scream and go crazy every time he touched that microphone. 0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:37.879 Now he's a little James believed in that kid still, 0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.800 do you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm looking to 0:27:40.880 --> 0:27:43.800 build things bigger than me, and we did that for you. 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:48.879 Genuine m hmm, genuine. That was my next question. I 0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:56.280 was about to say, what the hell happened to teach 0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.240 superfess we get there, I'm fresh out of church to 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.520 let's let you interview some you know, I'm fresh from 0:28:01.560 --> 0:28:04.639 prior rehearsal to the plane to l A. You know 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.480 what I'm saying, at this time, the devil kind of 0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.840 is still in the music. You know what I'm saying. 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.840 I was brainwashed to believe that this is the devil. Right, 0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:20.400 it's no longer the devil. But we get to rehearsal 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.560 and I'm one of those overachievers. Before we get to 0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.760 l A, I know every genuine song, top to bottom, 0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:29.920 every harm No we were I was just there to 0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:34.359 sing almost already done Pony number one platinum. I learned 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:38.440 every background part on his album, interludes everything. He walks 0:28:38.440 --> 0:28:41.240 into rehearsal, he starts chewing some stuff up, you know, 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:47.440 just playing on the microphone, and we're back like I'm 0:28:47.440 --> 0:28:53.520 gonna try another be Doobie out me like oh these 0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:58.240 they started playing it like I'm like, yeah, we're ready. 0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.040 He's so excited. He's like, I got to call this 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.800 background singers on the hall tour it's Mary on the tour. 0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:05.040 It's Drew Hill on the tour. And I got the 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:07.520 calling singers. He calls the Leah. I got the best 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:09.880 singers on the tour. You better come see him. The 0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:12.680 Lah comes to this to the rehearsal studio. Here's a 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:16.240 sing She's like, niggers cold. I come down. I get 0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:18.000 to me to Lea for the first time, She's like, 0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:21.080 what's your name? I was like Darrell. She's like, where 0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.000 you from. I'm from such and such. You're really doing 0:29:24.120 --> 0:29:26.840 with your real name because at the time only my 0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:30.360 family knew my nickname. My name is out of the baby, 0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:32.000 so I was just Durell at the time. You know 0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:38.080 what I'm saying. This time, I'm twenty two and she's 0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:41.160 you know, she's just asking me questions like I'm the 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:43.520 main attraction. I don't know what this is the Lea 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.280 She's got on the outfit bros To tell me this 0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:52.840 is the share the stomach is that. I'm like, this 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:57.000 is a liv and she's concerned about me. Right, And 0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.520 about a week later, Alia fired two background singers and 0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:12.320 hired me and another guy. You and and those two 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.880 um mainly genuine like Alia would say you dope. You're 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:17.680 like a one man Joe to see what you need 0:30:17.720 --> 0:30:19.480 to do, like you gotta wear this, and then then 0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:21.680 then you got the you got the song, focus on 0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.160 the piano, but you need to throw some of that 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.000 edge like she was just just game me gave me 0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.400 and Ginuine would sit sit with me at the top 0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.600 of a theater, sold out theater, right and he was 0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:31.280 standing there. He would watch his picture line and to 0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.680 be a thousand girls in the picture line literally and 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.080 he would say, dog, I'm gonna take every one of 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:37.720 these picture dogs. That's what you gotta do. You wanna 0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.720 be a style. You got to keep a die. If 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:41.880 the last one of them dig I'm gonna touch him all. 0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.560 If last one of the last one of them, dog dog. 0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:49.760 And I would watch him do this every night, left 0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:53.520 no fan behind every night. This is what you gotta do, 0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:55.360 taking things and you're writing songs. And then I got 0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:58.240 to meet my favorite producer, Timberland, and me and Timberland 0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:02.280 on the bus with my PVDPM keyboard making beats together 0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:04.920 and he's like, take you talent, you got the sauce, 0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:06.240 but you gotta do is you gotta do this. You 0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.360 gotta do this, all these guys gaming me, gaming me, 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.760 gaming me, and then Ginuine did what gave me the 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:15.200 front of his stage. Go crazy, little brow. You talk 0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:21.240 about you talk about the leftovers. Amen, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:26.800 I'm the coldest wingman in history, in history. I carried 0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:29.200 the foot locker bags. You know what I'm saying. I 0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.880 carried the oak tree bags. I would be in the 0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:35.120 middle of the mall buying the silver jewelry. You know 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:38.160 the sound I'm saying, the sterling silver sock to fit 0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.480 in with Genuine. His wing men wouldn't look so crazy. 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.840 And when Genuine went out and he needed that wing 0:31:43.880 --> 0:31:51.280 we got supers there. I'm staring. I'm starine head. We 0:31:51.400 --> 0:31:52.920 got him out. You would have going on the power 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:58.800 of a laminate the r late with the wine, Oh 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:02.280 my god, with Genuine. We'd love to go see him. 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.560 I would love for you to see him. You got 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:13.440 any friends, You got any friends? So that's that's Genuine. 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:15.600 Let's let's cross over in the t G T. Let's 0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:20.280 do it. Let's get into that. What then happened? Man, 0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:24.479 I'm gonna blame all of us, you said all of us, 0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:27.720 all of us, as I put most of the blame 0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:32.280 on Tyrese, and then and then some more and now 0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:34.600 some of the blame on Genuine, and then I'll get 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.400 back to myself. I gotta you know, I'm I'm here 0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.920 with you. Never make myself look better than those guys. 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:46.160 This is just the true Okay, okay, Um. What happened 0:32:46.160 --> 0:32:49.760 the first time around is we fought to make that album. 0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.880 It was a hell of a process. Yeah no, no, 0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.760 no's like literally like the only thing that kept me 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.160 from fighting Ti Reese, like you know what I'm saying, 0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:03.320 like really like like slamming, slamming him on top of 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:06.440 his head was it was that guy right there. Yeah, 0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.320 my manager. He was like, you can't go over there 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.719 and fight. I said, why can't I can't. I can 0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.760 go to his house. We can fight, get it off 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.600 our chest, and then make some more music. But you 0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:22.160 are not gonna text me text me like like I'm 0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:26.600 not a grown like Tyrese on the text chain. Oh oh, 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:30.840 he greasy on the text shape. He'd go there on 0:33:30.960 --> 0:33:34.360 the tech shape right and as soon as I say, cool, 0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.600 I'm coming to fuck you up. While we always want 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:40.800 to fight because all the fighting words. Okay, who's on 0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:43.640 the text change though? Me? Genuine and tyrese. It's the 0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:48.240 craziest check. And then you'll see I say, yea, I 0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:54.120 shouldn't do this. That y'all better than this, said no, 0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:59.360 I'm gonna him up absolutely um. But that was just 0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.960 to Alpha Like me and Tie are both capitalcorns, and 0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:06.680 we bumped heads every step of the way. I'm way first, 0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:10.800 he's he's the December thirty one. We bumped heads every 0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:14.600 step of the way. That's my brother, so I can 0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:16.919 I can say, I can talk about anybody else talking 0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:20.040 about um. And I just felt like he was doing 0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.160 too much. Why I was mad? He knows this. I 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:26.560 was mad. I was like, listen, I make albums. I 0:34:26.719 --> 0:34:32.000 make bodies of work. I have classic albums. I am 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.600 still doing this ship at a high level. To let 0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:40.480 me handle the music. Your cash. As the biggest star 0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:44.080 in our group, I will give way to you handling 0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:49.160 the business. Use that Tyree's blockbuster billion dollar box office 0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:53.279 cache to get us the best deal imaginable, all the 0:34:53.360 --> 0:35:02.640 fast and furiousness. Rightious, He's furious, come furious, but let 0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.680 me handle this music. This is what the funk I do. 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.520 And he wouldn't get out of my way, kept stepping 0:35:09.560 --> 0:35:13.000 on my toes. He likes to do boot camps. I 0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.600 like to lock in with two or two or three producers, 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.880 a couple of writers and make magic. People like a 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:24.600 thousand producers and writers making I don't. I just don't 0:35:24.640 --> 0:35:26.920 make music like that. I'm from the Jimmy Jam and 0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:31.200 Terry Lewis from Teddy Riley, from the Timberland, the Doctor Dre. 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.040 I'm from those schools where we lock in and we 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:36.600 find it and we make magic. That's what I'm from. 0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:40.040 But but his process is not wrong, just not my process. 0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:44.640 So our arguments and our beef was more so men 0:35:44.680 --> 0:35:48.520 who have been successful trying to figure out a way 0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.040 being successful individually trying to figure out a way to 0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:55.799 be successful together, right, And so neither one of us 0:35:56.320 --> 0:36:00.000 wanted to bow down to either person's process. Your process, 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:01.799 it's not better than mind. Your process is not better 0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:04.400 than mine. Well, then here we are, and that's what 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:09.160 made it difficult. Finally get the album done. Over time, 0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:14.800 album finally comes out, we do some shows overseas, I 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.120 think seven shows overseas. We do like three shows in 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:20.040 the US, and again we have a movie start in 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:22.000 the group. He gets called away to do a movie 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.000 which we couldn't control because you know what, Paul passed 0:36:25.040 --> 0:36:29.120 and got rest his soul um it from a scheduling standpoint, 0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.560 it got crazy for for Tie and everybody that was 0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:36.160 a part of the franchise, And so when that responsibility called, 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:38.520 he had to answer, and so that threw us off 0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:43.120 on the first one. Getting into this second one looks 0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.400 like you're passionate about this one. Yeah, yeah, I'm passionate 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.000 about this one. I want to say this so that 0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:51.680 everybody can get on their ass right. T g T 0:36:51.840 --> 0:36:54.960 the second time around is bigger than music. Bigger than 0:36:55.080 --> 0:36:57.160 music in terms of it as it relates to us. 0:36:58.000 --> 0:36:59.960 It's for the It's for the R and B universe 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:05.440 as a collective and for kings as a collective to 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.399 see the Kings can come together and do real ship, 0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.640 creating a blue merin what what what I think is 0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:17.440 happening right now is as stressful as that process was. 0:37:19.960 --> 0:37:24.840 Nobody feels like they have to inconvenience themselves anymore to 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.759 do it, and I blame that on people being rich. 0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:35.440 Is rich? Genuine is rich? Do they need t g T. No, 0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.480 It doesn't matter to them what the fans needed. But 0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:48.200 the R and B universe needs t g T. For 0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:52.600 the love of what we are, for the legacy of 0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:55.840 what we're building. That's what t g T is about. 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:58.359 This is my last album, but t g T would 0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.080 be my absolute last album if we did that right, 0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:06.080 because the people who are watching us, what is the message? 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:11.360 What is the message we send? After one album? Arguments 0:38:11.440 --> 0:38:17.319 online and nothing after what did we do? We heard 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:21.080 ourselves more than we helped ourselves. We believe that with 0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.080 all this ship after the fact, I mean, people may 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.160 be able to separate the music from the foodsgenes that 0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.120 we went through. I respect it. It was one of 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.439 the greatest R and B albums ever created. I will 0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:35.640 say that. But we gotta finish right. We gotta finish right, man, 0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.560 all the way down to the wire. It's fourth quarter, 0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:44.520 last three minutes left. What are we doing? So that's 0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:47.719 where I'm at? Right, can give me some more You 0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:52.080 got it? S yeah, you send it to both of us, 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.560 asks just me, okay, I got it? Boom. You want 0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.960 to play it on the rules? The rules are no 0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:03.600 politically correct answers. Ship. If you say both or neither, 0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:07.239 we all take a shot. So it's it's a it's 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.160 multiple or two. So we're gonna do this for two nights. 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:14.200 It's one. Are these shots? You say one? We're good? 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.719 Nobody drinks say both are neither. We're drinking. We drink 0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:19.600 with you, don't drink by yourself. We drink with you. Yeah, 0:39:19.719 --> 0:39:23.600 we all drink. Y'all can drink too. Yeah. I felt 0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:25.120 like I said at first, But as long as you're 0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:31.680 with me, are you ready? Absolutely love my shot up 0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.279 normally see them a little my shot up. Now you're 0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.520 all correct? This is this is Japanese that you're on 0:39:36.680 --> 0:39:41.239 right here. This is Dominican mamajuana right here in the 0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:46.520 national nations nations right here. I would have the day 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:50.200 later on your thing. Yes, yes, spot me a mama pup. Yes, 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:55.520 poor lightly. It is a long game. Snoop Dogg with 0:39:55.640 --> 0:40:01.719 jay z A. We drink it. We could drink. We 0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:05.200 could drink. I mean, unless you gotta answer it sounds 0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:07.040 like a drink. That sounds like a drink to me, 0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:15.719 ship both. Okay, you started off early. You didn't do 0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.000 I don't know what you're gonna askwer for this morning. 0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:22.279 I was a little too much. Take good time, take 0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:25.919 good time. At no I've been I've lost a couple 0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:31.160 of times. It happens Chris Brown or Usha Chris Brown. 0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:34.719 I didn't I didn't know what she was gonna go 0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:41.239 with it. There trade songs or Jeremiah trade songs? Podcast 0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:51.400 or radio you got a podcast? Okay, this one, I 0:40:51.400 --> 0:41:01.200 don't know what you're gonna say. Rianna Beyonce Missy or 0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:07.719 Eve Missy? Keep sweat, Johnny Gil keep sweat. He played 0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:18.160 the game for real or Kanye for Real? Fab for 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:34.840 Jada kiss high Beverages, Who yeah solo. I don't like 0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:37.759 what's happening right now. I don't know that's addressed that 0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:40.960 you you you're making a face like you just did 0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:45.080 a whole shots like this coming. This is, this is 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.319 it's that whiskey, y'all. You have something that I don't 0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:53.960 know a little top of this is trust me do 0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:58.040 this all things? All right? All right? Um we are okay? 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:08.719 Mariah or Janet Janet? I gotta ask this why why 0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:16.239 on that one times? In totality the overall you know 0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:20.080 what I mean sing sing Janet as like the complete 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:25.320 performer that she is. Um, she just is what she is, 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.520 you know what I mean? From from a dancer to 0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:35.600 what I'm saying the full Circle's Bust the rhymes are Eminem. 0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.280 You know what I gotta go with what I listened to? Okay, 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.080 bust the rhymes? You want to explain now, it would 0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:55.879 be good. I think that. Here's what I think people 0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:58.279 have to figure out. If you've never seen anybody trying 0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.640 to follow bus the rhymes on stage on stage, oh yeah, 0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:07.400 you won't understand this. You do not want any smoke 0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:11.560 with Buster rhymes and split Star when them songs come 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:15.240 on and start going back to back to back to back. 0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:19.080 Now to the Eminem hamlet in the right setting and 0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:23.080 the verses in the right setting. Let's let's let's let's 0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:28.040 we we want this question. Let's say versus Buster. First, Eminem, 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:41.799 what is happening? Buster? Your face? Anybody has an opportunity 0:43:41.920 --> 0:43:45.960 to jump on that man with Eminem, with Eminem, it's Buster, 0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.520 it's Buster because he had game on here. Game said 0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.560 that he's better than Eminem. The game is better. He's 0:43:53.560 --> 0:44:01.080 a game. Yeah, and what rapping? Okay, you have to 0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:05.719 believe that you are the best. That's how this works. It, 0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.439 that's it. I will never I will never talk down 0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.560 on the man believing in himself. He believed it to period. 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.680 I don't know, I don't know. I will say, I 0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.120 will say I think again in terms of what I 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:25.320 listened to, game song's on the playlist, So just no, no, 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:52.440 no Monica or Brandy, Brandy, digital or analog. Yeah, Toby 0:44:52.520 --> 0:45:03.480 Lanes on the weekend. Whoa, oh sorry about the weekend. Wow, 0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:13.600 that was crazy. Take the shot. Nope, stuff, Nope, I'm 0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:16.800 gonna go. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with overall artistry. 0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:18.600 In terms of tool bag, I'm gonna go with Tori. 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:25.120 Mm hmm. That was I ain't been broken the mitt 0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.360 All right, let's go keep thriller or off the wall. 0:45:30.640 --> 0:45:33.319 Go ahead, get my shot, right, Yeah, I don't want 0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:36.359 to do this. We gotta play with it. We gotta 0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:41.640 play with it. Give it to you, Okay, I say, 0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:56.719 I think, I say I respect Oh Dr Dre or 0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:08.279 pup Daddy. Yeah, it's starting to feel like they are. 0:46:10.080 --> 0:46:15.960 It's starting to feel like they leone. Um. You don't 0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:27.960 criteria whatever, your criterias stop so much. He don't give 0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:40.160 you can answer every way you want. I wanna take 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:43.600 that shot. That'll get the whether. You gotta get these 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.320 shots ready, man, Because he was going through them like 0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:47.840 Oh yeah, I was having a good time and then 0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:51.720 I just just hit a wall. Hit the wall, Puff 0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.000 and Dr Dre. I mean talking about guys bro Like 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:02.120 you're talking about brand and headphones and liquor and it 0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:07.160 just gets billions. It's crazy. Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robs, Marvin Gaye, 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:15.960 Al Green, Teddy Penagraph, Al Green, the grit Stone, Jerry 0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:22.560 Curl Baptist preaching, Womanized and gens. I'm not sure makes 0:47:22.680 --> 0:47:27.239 makes some noise to that. That's when the music music. 0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:32.520 It's crazy, right, that's a little The day I felt terrible, 0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:37.359 I said, it's kind of funny because as you're going 0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:40.120 through this ship, you're making the best music ever. And 0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:44.600 it was like you're hurt. It's making my ears happy. 0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:50.319 That's what pain does. That's what pain does. Yeah, please 0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:52.640 don't go. It was a real song. Maybe I deserve 0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:58.000 it was a real song. That's my notes, chill sucking 0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:04.880 up my notes. Mm hmm. I've never known this question. 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:08.440 Michael Jackson or Prince Michael Jackson? Have you met either 0:48:08.480 --> 0:48:11.560 one of them? The day I was supposed to go 0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:19.440 meet Michael what what the day Jamie was Jamie was 0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.440 taking all of us out out to uh out to 0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:24.319 the ranch. Jamie Fox I'm sorry, Jamie FOXX was taking 0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:28.080 us all out to right, Jamie, I'm not like we 0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:30.319 was just noticed. I was singing backgrounds. Okay, all right, 0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.880 So you supposed to Jackson, Yes, I was supposed to me. 0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:37.520 He was going. They were rehearsing next right right next 0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:39.839 door to us, and then they told Fox bring your crow, 0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:41.680 come on down. Michael would love to have you guys, 0:48:41.760 --> 0:48:45.880 like you're just calling Fox just now. Is either Jamie Jamie, 0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.320 It's not both. So if you say, you say, Jamie, 0:48:48.360 --> 0:48:52.160 motherfucker you got it's a hard package. And I think 0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:56.000 he's got that, you know, trademark or something. Oh that's crazy. 0:48:56.440 --> 0:49:01.399 Holy Okay, Bobby Brown, I'll be sure Bobby Brown don't 0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:03.960 do that. I need to explain because the way you 0:49:04.000 --> 0:49:07.799 said that Bobby Brown is is one of the kings, 0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:12.040 one of the kings. Like when Bobby Brown left New Edition, 0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:14.879 who was the greatest group and probably the greatest group 0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:18.360 blueprint of all times? Right, Bobby Brown went told to 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:22.280 toll with New Edition every night by himself, by himself, 0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:24.800 and what I gotta do. Listen and in d C. 0:49:25.480 --> 0:49:27.200 You know what I'm saying, at the Capital Center. He 0:49:27.360 --> 0:49:30.239 gave them problems. What do you mean he went up 0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:35.359 against them. It was like he was right before new edition. 0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:38.600 I'll be sure somebody before, I'll be sure. Then I'll 0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:43.320 be sure. Then Bobby Brown, then new edition. You know, 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:47.520 Bobby went crazy because Bobby went to that thing. Bobby, 0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:51.120 Bobby went to that ship. You ever read his book 0:49:51.600 --> 0:49:55.600 when um he said that he fried cocaine chicken, chicken 0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:59.520 and cocaine. I did not read. Did you say how 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:06.440 it tastes? He kept the rest of no one else 0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:12.279 who said, well, supposedly in his book goes somewhere he 0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:16.120 has so much cocaine that he didn't know it was cocaine, 0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:18.919 and he thought it was flower at one point. Yeah, 0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:21.920 it's accident. And he didn't. You don't you make think 0:50:22.040 --> 0:50:25.800 he didn't. And I want to hear the after. You 0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:29.800 know what, that's not the best. You know, it's like 0:50:29.840 --> 0:50:31.320 you know your real nick. I never thought of that. 0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:37.960 I didn't taste it's because number Oh god, that's that's 0:50:38.000 --> 0:50:44.400 crazy right there. We'll talk later. Oldest read it or 0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:52.400 Sam Cup, Sam Cup, Stevie Wonder, Luther vandros Stevie Wonder. 0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:57.080 I think Stevie see, huh. You can see sometimes what 0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:06.600 you're looking at it sometimes driving license huh. I think 0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.640 Stevie got Stephen can see sometimes I don't know how 0:51:09.719 --> 0:51:12.200 he does. I mess Stevie a bunch of times. Stevie 0:51:12.239 --> 0:51:15.480 gave me a recording kit. One time, me and Stevie 0:51:15.520 --> 0:51:17.520 sets out the side on the piano on the keyboard 0:51:17.560 --> 0:51:20.759 before singing lyrics. He's singing my lyrics and I messed 0:51:20.840 --> 0:51:24.239 his up. It's cool, It's fine. Apologize, you know it's 0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:31.080 that apologize. I apologize the ultimate Frost. He's flawsing on 0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:35.000 us on the spot, like Stephen, don't walk up to 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:36.640 you all the time and sit next to you on 0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:39.160 the keyboartist and I know all of your songs and 0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:42.920 just start singing your lyrics and I was I choked, 0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:45.440 Shot said, he wrote in the elevator with Stevie and 0:51:45.480 --> 0:51:54.120 Stevie press but the story out there. Let's get love 0:51:54.160 --> 0:51:56.400 the frost. You sat down and play the piano together. 0:51:57.080 --> 0:51:59.680 Let's just be clear you think you can see the 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:02.960 piano because this is this is weird. I'm not even 0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:04.840 like I mean, at that point, you don't have to 0:52:04.880 --> 0:52:06.200 see when you can say like that, I don't have 0:52:06.239 --> 0:52:09.480 to see the real life. You think he can see though, 0:52:09.600 --> 0:52:13.520 for real I think he can see sometimes, right, because 0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:18.040 how you notice? I think that because other sentences, other 0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:21.439 senses are so heightened, right, and be and being able 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:25.120 to understand the sensibility of shapes and sizes of things, 0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:29.760 and and counting in the math of things, the ability 0:52:29.840 --> 0:52:32.680 to visualize what's in front of you. It's possible to 0:52:32.880 --> 0:52:37.440 see shades. It's possible to be able to from a 0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.879 sonic standpoint. Right, You've seen Batman when they were using 0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:43.600 the phones to pin uh pin uh what do they 0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:49.719 called it, with the with the with the submarines, which 0:52:49.760 --> 0:52:53.960 is right, And so there's an idea of sonar existing 0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:57.680 within us, and so that will create the structure or 0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:00.680 whatever space that you're in or whatever thing that you touch. Right, 0:53:01.160 --> 0:53:05.120 possible can he see switch lanes? No, No, Stevie can 0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:09.719 switch lanes. This is nothing, Shock said, Shock said, he 0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:13.840 will were in the elevator. He didn't say that he 0:53:13.960 --> 0:53:16.319 was in there. He just seek Stevie like they lived 0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:19.200 in the same building and they both walked in and 0:53:19.520 --> 0:53:22.399 Shock because he didn't want to say that, and Stevie said, 0:53:22.640 --> 0:53:27.120 when Shaq walked out, all right later Diesel like he 0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:34.520 was a pressing the button to it obviously, but this 0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:38.160 is you can google it on line. U Sho accuses 0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:42.760 that Stevie could actually see the way too. They figure 0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:48.120 it's Stevie. He's been, he's been to professionally understand how 0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:52.640 that works. That's true. Look, they just hit me with Stevie. 0:53:52.680 --> 0:53:55.680 ONEA gave Darryl Dwkin his chocolate done the nickname. What 0:53:57.040 --> 0:54:01.400 he gave Darryl Dawkins his chocolate thunder nickname? How do 0:54:01.480 --> 0:54:06.000 you know he's hunk man. I'm sure somebody told him 0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:21.120 Darrel Dawkins. That's that's a darker guy, we said, oldest 0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:24.319 ready man, Sam Cook? Right, do we skip over Erica 0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:27.640 about doing at least? Yeah? You spose I do all 0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:36.320 at least your kids about you pussy instance, No, I wouldn't. 0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:38.399 What do you mean, I don't have it? You don't 0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:44.600 want to support the pussy. I support pussy. You don't 0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:52.600 know that, Yeah, pussy home good, it's called the whole 0:54:52.640 --> 0:54:54.560 product line. Like, I don't know. I don't know how 0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:56.400 to explain that to my wife that I brought some 0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:58.160 pussy home. You know what I'm saying. I don't. I don't. 0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:00.520 That's a good point. You know what. I'm like, bab 0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:06.120 I got this got it might be like, what is so? 0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:10.560 So you want to know what her? You want me 0:55:10.560 --> 0:55:12.520 to put it off so I can. You can be 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:24.879 around supporting? Are you support? It's not a goodly ship. 0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:30.120 That was good. I had no idea who are new 0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:34.080 addition we did? We did a new addition or the 0:55:34.160 --> 0:55:42.480 Jackson five? Fuck? I have to go with a new addition. 0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:49.759 You really love new addition, love new addition. I was 0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:52.040 raised on that album. My love for R and B 0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:56.799 grew with any heartbreak, you know, going to that tour, 0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:00.040 my my first concert, asking my father, please can you 0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:05.359 take me to see a New Edition? We need a yes, Yes, 0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:09.040 that's the blueprint for me. And then from New Edition 0:56:09.400 --> 0:56:13.080 spawned every other group that you can think of at 0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:18.160 this point, from the Instincts, the Whole Boyfriend before that, 0:56:20.320 --> 0:56:28.160 really right after Jackson five, when did they come out 0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:32.359 it seventies Yeah, I'm seventy seven, I'm seventy six. Yes, 0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:37.880 So New Edition became the blueprint for every successful group thereafter. 0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:42.480 The blueprint nothing different. This is how we're gonna rehearse. 0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.000 So we're sing this is how we're gonna do it. 0:56:45.280 --> 0:56:48.759 We need five the whole thing, the whole thing to 0:56:48.800 --> 0:56:51.440 be able to do that. Yea. And they're the blueprint. 0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:57.600 God damn, it makes a noise. New addition. So besides, 0:56:57.840 --> 0:57:00.680 besides new edition, who else were you listening to? Really 0:57:00.760 --> 0:57:05.760 young Jodac. I can see it, I can see it, Jodac. 0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:08.879 Now that's a blueprint. Yeah. That was like the bad 0:57:08.960 --> 0:57:12.759 Boys are someone's well, Bobby was the bad boy, and 0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:17.120 then and then uh, and then the the three UM 0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:20.720 B B D. Of course the first the first R 0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:23.720 and B and hip hop group, which new edition. It's 0:57:23.720 --> 0:57:27.280 a new edition but in a spawn off, but never 0:57:27.360 --> 0:57:30.520 had been done before. They were the first, so they 0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:32.600 had kind of an edge to them. If you want 0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:34.440 to say that, you know what I'm saying. And then 0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:43.720 there's no addition you have Jodac my god, Yeah, we 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:46.840 just take a shout to join. That's because that's because 0:57:57.560 --> 0:57:58.840 so that was my makeup. When I would go to 0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:01.240 churches over you know, all over the d m V. 0:58:01.920 --> 0:58:04.360 They'd be like, you sound like a gospel Jelasy, Like 0:58:04.560 --> 0:58:07.040 you know what I'm saying, you sound like a gospel 0:58:07.120 --> 0:58:16.320 Jeltacy or r Kelly, like, you just got you know, Kelly, Yeah, 0:58:17.560 --> 0:58:28.400 let's just let's R Kelly, He said, Robert Kelly's blueprint. 0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:34.840 I get it. Yeah, I get it. I understand. But 0:58:36.320 --> 0:58:44.000 there's there's absolutely no way that now they are the guests, right, 0:58:45.280 --> 0:58:49.600 There's absolutely no way that I can dig into my 0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:55.680 musical DNA and strip away Joe to see and R. 0:58:55.760 --> 0:59:02.760 Kelly and Brian mynight in baby Faces. It's absolutely impossible. 0:59:03.160 --> 0:59:07.680 Everyone else is like, we get it, we understand, But like, 0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:14.040 I still watched The Cosby Show, And how does it 0:59:14.120 --> 0:59:17.240 make you feel when you watch it? Do you do 0:59:17.360 --> 0:59:19.600 the lessons? Do you see Did you see the Bill 0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:23.520 Cosby documentary? We got to talk about Bill. It's cold, 0:59:23.560 --> 0:59:25.000 We got to talk about that. It has the same 0:59:25.040 --> 0:59:28.160 the documentary. I saw the Rob documentary, which scared me. 0:59:29.800 --> 0:59:35.280 You scared me. Did you work with Kelly? Right? Indirectly? 0:59:36.280 --> 0:59:40.280 I did a song for Sharissa that R. Kelly ended 0:59:40.360 --> 0:59:44.280 up featuring on SO and I produced and wrote it 0:59:44.440 --> 0:59:47.600 and I Kelly got on it and sang so. Indirectly, 0:59:47.880 --> 0:59:50.840 UM hung out with him a couple of times. Play 0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:53.200 some basketball. You want to hear that? Would like to 0:59:53.240 --> 0:59:57.600 hear that? Kelly? There I'm gonna try to I'm gonna 0:59:57.600 --> 1:00:00.160 try to make this short because it's it's three parts, right, 1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:05.440 all right. So we're having a celebrity basketball game. Okay, 1:00:05.760 --> 1:00:07.320 first time I meet Rob. Let's go back to that 1:00:08.840 --> 1:00:12.480 first time I meet R Kelly was with Tyrese. We 1:00:12.560 --> 1:00:18.040 call up, come outside because Tyrese's Tyres is the is 1:00:18.120 --> 1:00:21.360 the fan club president of r K. Did not know 1:00:21.560 --> 1:00:27.080 this fan club president him right now in jail number 1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:37.760 R Kelly. What do you need tywheek Tyrees? I thought 1:00:37.840 --> 1:00:40.400 I was the big R Kelly fan. Tyrese trumps me 1:00:40.520 --> 1:00:45.000 by a thousand, okay, big of Tyres. So we the 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:50.320 with the W and uh where is this the W? 1:00:50.560 --> 1:00:56.800 And uh yeah? Westwood, Westwood, Westwood, Yes, and this is 1:00:56.840 --> 1:00:58.920 the first time I meet R. Kelly at the W. 1:00:59.280 --> 1:01:02.920 At the W, Kelly gets off the bus, walks over 1:01:03.040 --> 1:01:06.680 to me, gives me a hug, and the only thing 1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:09.800 he says to me is a devil dead or alive, 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:14.880 can't keep us apart. And I know what you meant 1:01:14.920 --> 1:01:17.240 by that. You're trying to say that y'all have smoked 1:01:17.560 --> 1:01:25.480 no no for my bad. The first time you met him, 1:01:26.120 --> 1:01:29.960 he said, king of devil dead or alive, keep us apart. 1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:33.200 I know he was talking about. I know who he 1:01:33.320 --> 1:01:36.160 was talking about. Somebody was talking about, y'all know, somebody 1:01:36.160 --> 1:01:40.040 who was just keeping us apart. Because I was signed 1:01:41.880 --> 1:01:44.320 under the idea that I was the next R Kelly 1:01:45.200 --> 1:01:49.160 by the person who made R Kelly m So I 1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:52.200 knew exactly what he was talking about. But that was 1:01:52.680 --> 1:01:58.360 then separate ways and seen him again since cut to Orlando. 1:01:58.400 --> 1:02:01.640 I think it's All Star or Super Bowl celebrity basketball game. 1:02:02.160 --> 1:02:06.720 Chris Brown and celebrity friends versus R Kelly and celebrity friends. 1:02:07.200 --> 1:02:17.520 That's it. They're announcing Chris Brown's celebrity team. It's a 1:02:17.640 --> 1:02:22.880 bunch of celebrities. It's us, right, all of us. Our 1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:27.080 Kelly comes running in with this team. They announced the 1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:29.760 celebrities for the R. Kelly team. Give it up for 1:02:30.200 --> 1:02:36.960 R Kelly Playball. It is R Kelly and seven Team 1:02:37.160 --> 1:02:43.280 goods fresh shout. None of their clothes match shoes. Is 1:02:43.400 --> 1:02:49.000 fucked up like a movie. These these guys are not 1:02:49.400 --> 1:02:56.720 basketball players. They are criminals for sure. I know the 1:02:56.840 --> 1:03:04.040 criminal outfit. I know it. I know it. The game starts, 1:03:05.200 --> 1:03:09.000 I said, I got kills part of me. I as 1:03:09.200 --> 1:03:11.080 we needed the fans to understand what you're saying. You're 1:03:11.080 --> 1:03:15.960 saying you're guarding. I'm checking our Kelly. Okay, yes, let's 1:03:16.040 --> 1:03:21.320 go right r Kelly. Kelly decides to cut to the left. 1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:27.120 I get a pick upside my head, like a pick, 1:03:27.440 --> 1:03:32.040 like a pick. Okay, bomb, okay, okay, boom upside my 1:03:32.120 --> 1:03:40.080 head one of them, I said, got me on that one. 1:03:42.200 --> 1:03:51.080 That's got some men still checking out Killy still checking 1:03:51.120 --> 1:03:59.600 out Kelly. Kelly cut boom, boom. Two picks from sad goon. 1:04:01.480 --> 1:04:09.960 I said, hallelujah. I'm trying to keep my ship together. 1:04:11.560 --> 1:04:17.160 So no feeling right. Kelly gets the ball, come to 1:04:17.240 --> 1:04:24.080 the basket, turn to go with him. Boom said going again, 1:04:25.200 --> 1:04:29.480 same guy. I said, cool. If that's how the funk 1:04:29.560 --> 1:04:34.959 y'all want to play, that's how the funk we're gonna play. Yes, okay, 1:04:35.080 --> 1:04:38.400 I play football. I played basketball because I can. I'm 1:04:38.440 --> 1:04:40.360 a football player. I'm gonna lying back on the running back. 1:04:41.400 --> 1:04:46.120 I said, let's play. I proceeded to run every one 1:04:46.160 --> 1:04:51.800 of these motherfucker's the funk over every player. I'm talking 1:04:52.040 --> 1:04:55.560 cash ship to kill. Yeah, you got these motherfucker's trying 1:04:55.600 --> 1:04:59.960 to pick me. I'm you don't want he coming out 1:05:00.000 --> 1:05:04.880 trying to check me, or you can't check me on 1:05:05.680 --> 1:05:09.520 this show game, this trash check this thing to the 1:05:09.680 --> 1:05:12.600 funk out of here the whole game. I'm going crazy. 1:05:12.840 --> 1:05:15.760 The first half. It gets to a point to where 1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:20.280 t I fresh Out comes out of the stands and says, hey, Tank, 1:05:20.320 --> 1:05:24.560 you gotta keep a cool head, bro, you gotta you 1:05:24.640 --> 1:05:27.600 gotta keep a cool I said, I'm in my mind, 1:05:28.440 --> 1:05:32.600 you just gotta. And then I'm thinking, like, am I 1:05:32.760 --> 1:05:36.120 that bad? That a hand freshout of freshout of Prinson 1:05:36.360 --> 1:05:40.240 to tell me to come down. I'm gone. Though, second 1:05:40.280 --> 1:05:42.040 half comes, we're about to win the game. Our current 1:05:42.080 --> 1:05:44.680 it makes a shot, they give him thirty points. I'm leaded, 1:05:45.920 --> 1:05:49.040 while Wayne Williams, I'm cussing him the funk out. I'm 1:05:49.080 --> 1:05:51.800 cussing our Kelly out. I'm cussing his gooms out there 1:05:51.800 --> 1:05:53.680 like tanking a person. That's how we gotta play with 1:05:53.800 --> 1:06:00.880 our funck y'all. And Rob I'm oh kiss the ball. 1:06:01.400 --> 1:06:03.760 Two sets of stuff, win the game, Get in the 1:06:03.840 --> 1:06:06.840 funk out of here, get them out of here. Who Assi, 1:06:07.280 --> 1:06:11.000 I'm there, I'm bare. My people don't know that side 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:23.760 of him. Guy. They leave never see R. Kelly again, 1:06:23.920 --> 1:06:25.960 never see him again. But that's on my mind. I'm 1:06:26.040 --> 1:06:28.880 pissed R. Kelly for the rest of the time. That's 1:06:28.880 --> 1:06:30.480 how you make you know what I'm saying. That's how 1:06:30.520 --> 1:06:32.920 you make real enemies. On the basketball court, right, that 1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:35.440 was some whole ass ship niggas just picking for you 1:06:35.560 --> 1:06:37.800 all game. Nikos would catch the rebound up under the 1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:39.800 basketball court and throw it back to him so he 1:06:39.840 --> 1:06:42.520 could shoot. That's how they play. Kills gets the ball, 1:06:42.720 --> 1:06:45.800 anybody else shoots, somebody get sucked up. That's how he plays. 1:06:46.280 --> 1:06:50.360 Cut to We're in Chicago on some T G T 1:06:50.480 --> 1:06:55.640 business again, ty reeses are all things are Kelly? He 1:06:55.760 --> 1:06:58.520 got He like, look, man, Rob really wants you to 1:06:58.600 --> 1:07:00.600 come by the gym. You know what I'm saying. Just 1:07:01.080 --> 1:07:03.560 you know that bygones be bygones, you know, make fun 1:07:03.720 --> 1:07:06.640 Rob Man. I tell him, I said that, No, don't 1:07:06.640 --> 1:07:09.360 be like that tank. You know the Kings, Yeah, the 1:07:09.480 --> 1:07:11.800 King just want to haul at you. The King. Why 1:07:11.800 --> 1:07:13.720 are you calling him the king? First of all, he 1:07:13.960 --> 1:07:16.200 you know, he's the kid, he the King. But anyway, 1:07:16.920 --> 1:07:26.120 just right right, what are we talking about? Right? So 1:07:26.760 --> 1:07:28.520 I was like, he finally talking to me, and so 1:07:28.560 --> 1:07:30.760 I was like, out, go for the tapes, or this 1:07:30.800 --> 1:07:33.320 is after the tapes, this is before the case for 1:07:33.400 --> 1:07:36.120 the case for the tapes. You know the tape. You 1:07:36.200 --> 1:07:39.240 know that was like the people want on bootleg after 1:07:39.320 --> 1:07:42.280 the tape. After that was going there all expect that. 1:07:42.400 --> 1:07:48.439 So he was he wasn't convicted, right, I can't judge 1:07:48.520 --> 1:07:51.080 him anyway, solus. Plus, you still want to bust his 1:07:51.120 --> 1:07:54.240 ass and I still want to bust So we get 1:07:54.280 --> 1:07:56.840 to the gym, right, nobody. I definitely told this part 1:07:56.840 --> 1:07:58.280 of the store. I leave this part out, but you 1:07:58.320 --> 1:08:01.760 know we're here. So we walk in and as soon 1:08:01.800 --> 1:08:03.960 as he walking to the gym, I'm stone wall because 1:08:04.280 --> 1:08:06.840 it's just me and tires. I know it's killed. I 1:08:06.880 --> 1:08:08.160 know he got his gunes with him. Know what I'm saying, 1:08:08.160 --> 1:08:09.880 I'm ready for whatever it is, what it is. Right, 1:08:10.360 --> 1:08:12.240 So soon as I walk in the gym, walking in 1:08:12.360 --> 1:08:15.880 with my face on, yeah, ni, he like this tank, 1:08:15.920 --> 1:08:18.400 Come on man, you know I love you. Man, Come here, man, 1:08:19.080 --> 1:08:21.640 come here, man. And he go up to embraced me 1:08:21.920 --> 1:08:28.160 and he starts tickling me. What the fun? Now, here's 1:08:28.160 --> 1:08:32.840 the problem with that? Again? I'm really ticklish. So I'm 1:08:32.880 --> 1:08:38.599 like stop. Yes, yes, stop, you don't. It's that kind 1:08:38.640 --> 1:08:45.600 of on it's embarrassing moment, A tickling me, right. I 1:08:45.640 --> 1:08:47.080 said it was his way of making friends, and he's like, 1:08:48.439 --> 1:08:50.880 oh my god. But he was like, yeah, this that's 1:08:50.920 --> 1:08:53.320 how you got a comment that you gotta tickling because 1:08:53.320 --> 1:08:55.760 just take a funk, you up the tank. I have 1:08:55.920 --> 1:08:59.680 no idea, girl, No, I'm not gonna do this with 1:08:59.720 --> 1:09:08.080 you anyway. I've been here so anyway, this is R 1:09:08.200 --> 1:09:12.080 Kelly's way of trying to get back at me. He 1:09:12.240 --> 1:09:16.000 put me on the opposite team. R Kelly's rules in 1:09:16.040 --> 1:09:19.439 the gym is when he wins, he plays next. When 1:09:19.479 --> 1:09:24.320 he loses, he plays next. He sounds like rules to 1:09:24.400 --> 1:09:31.080 me at all Y's world. It's world. He never right. 1:09:31.800 --> 1:09:36.679 He put me on every opposing team. Now the first game, 1:09:36.920 --> 1:09:40.040 I'm going crazy like that. It is what it is, right, 1:09:40.479 --> 1:09:43.240 So I'm going I'm going to ham on him. But 1:09:43.320 --> 1:09:48.080 then I stopped and I checked myself. By the way, 1:09:48.080 --> 1:09:50.920 the first game you won, right, First I checked myself. 1:09:51.479 --> 1:09:56.240 I said, you know what, and in in in real life, 1:09:56.560 --> 1:10:00.160 I respect this man in real life. He is the 1:10:00.240 --> 1:10:02.439 king of R and B. In real life. Yes, some 1:10:02.560 --> 1:10:09.680 athletically superior. I'm younger, he's older, right, Let let let 1:10:09.760 --> 1:10:13.760 me let my older do do his thing. And so 1:10:14.240 --> 1:10:16.439 you let him win for the rest of the rest 1:10:16.479 --> 1:10:18.280 of the games. I let him win. I was like, 1:10:18.320 --> 1:10:20.400 you know what it is? What he'll make a shot? Kills, 1:10:20.439 --> 1:10:22.439 I said, shot right there. I can't, boy, what do 1:10:22.479 --> 1:10:27.920 you shoot that from? You shot that from Manica? I 1:10:28.120 --> 1:10:32.479 allow you a better man. Listen, I'm not done. Maybe 1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:35.840 the ticklings something you over. I think that's what it did. 1:10:35.920 --> 1:10:47.439 It definitely worked him. I think he knows me. Cut 1:10:47.520 --> 1:10:51.680 to brother Jake Valentine comes to town. He's always my ringer, right, 1:10:52.520 --> 1:10:54.679 and I said, listen, man, Kills wantus to come play 1:10:54.720 --> 1:10:57.599 basketball with him tonight. I feel like we're back cool again, right. 1:10:57.880 --> 1:10:59.880 He's like, man, I'm not going to play with Kels. 1:11:00.240 --> 1:11:02.640 I played real basketball. I say, I know, but you 1:11:02.680 --> 1:11:04.720 know it's it's the King. Like that reason now it's 1:11:04.760 --> 1:11:07.040 the King. You know, we get to go who like, 1:11:07.240 --> 1:11:09.280 just you know, we'll play, but you don't gotta really 1:11:09.280 --> 1:11:11.559 gotta play, like just be cool. He's like, just, man, 1:11:11.600 --> 1:11:14.880 I don't want the part that please please. So Jake said, 1:11:14.880 --> 1:11:18.120 I'm coming, let's go. So we're gonna pull up at 1:11:18.120 --> 1:11:21.120 the gym with kels kel see me this time. Hey tanke, 1:11:21.200 --> 1:11:23.200 how you doing. Man, Good to see you. I said, 1:11:23.240 --> 1:11:26.400 that's my manager. Jay Valenceine said, your manager. He looked 1:11:26.439 --> 1:11:30.479 like you goddamn son. I said, yeah, he's aging and black. 1:11:30.560 --> 1:11:32.560 You know they on age. You know what I'm saying. Like, So, 1:11:33.439 --> 1:11:37.640 we starts to playing right and I'm telling j I'm like, 1:11:37.720 --> 1:11:40.000 j be cool. You look at him. You don't think 1:11:40.000 --> 1:11:41.680 he getting ready to do what he get ready to do. Well, 1:11:41.680 --> 1:11:44.040 he's gonna do it. I don't know where this is gone. 1:11:44.520 --> 1:11:52.519 I'm going. We're sitting there. We played refused. Kelly win 1:11:52.560 --> 1:11:55.840 was the first game and he starts talking cash Ship 1:11:56.000 --> 1:11:59.559 told you whole asked niggas from l A like y'all 1:11:59.720 --> 1:12:05.280 like that. This shottown nigga, this shottown you. You niggas 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:08.960 ain't Oh, He's calling us everything out of the book. 1:12:09.200 --> 1:12:11.120 Jake walks over to me and says, I'm not losing 1:12:11.160 --> 1:12:18.639 the next game. Shit, come down the court, next very 1:12:18.680 --> 1:12:22.400 first player. The next game, Jake got the ball. Three, Chuck, 1:12:23.840 --> 1:12:27.160 come down the very next place, spending in the circle. Three, 1:12:28.520 --> 1:12:33.360 Come down the next place to the hold the funk up. 1:12:35.360 --> 1:12:40.640 Who got the pretty nigger? What do you mean you 1:12:40.960 --> 1:12:43.519 get the funk out, you get the fun in? He's 1:12:43.560 --> 1:12:49.120 so we won that game. I said, Jay, are you 1:12:49.160 --> 1:12:50.840 good now? He said, I'm good. We'll lose the rest 1:12:52.080 --> 1:12:54.600 and we lost the rest of the games for the 1:12:54.680 --> 1:12:58.280 sake of are killing It looked like he still ain't 1:12:58.320 --> 1:13:05.360 agree with you. He's still he's still he got a career. 1:13:05.560 --> 1:13:09.080 But you know, but you know, those were good moments 1:13:09.160 --> 1:13:10.479 like for me because it's like I got to be 1:13:10.560 --> 1:13:15.000 around you know, that guy who I thought musically was, 1:13:15.600 --> 1:13:18.000 you know, the greatest of all times. You know what 1:13:18.000 --> 1:13:21.599 I'm saying in spite of you know what I mean, 1:13:22.000 --> 1:13:25.080 it's it's a lot connected to it that you know, 1:13:25.320 --> 1:13:27.400 we don't have to unpack. We get. But that's why 1:13:27.479 --> 1:13:29.519 that's why I bring up the Bill Cosby thing is 1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:32.240 because and I think you asked me earlier that I 1:13:32.360 --> 1:13:34.840 didn't know how to answer it, um saying, how do 1:13:34.880 --> 1:13:36.960 you feel when I still see the Cosby Show? Cosby 1:13:37.000 --> 1:13:40.200 Show is still one of the greatest. It's still a 1:13:40.240 --> 1:13:44.080 cosmic show, and it made me feel ill like that 1:13:45.240 --> 1:13:48.200 I could see a positive black family on there. So 1:13:48.280 --> 1:13:50.519 I don't think it takes away from that. So if 1:13:50.520 --> 1:13:54.680 you still love R. Kelly's music, that's but it's just 1:13:54.760 --> 1:13:57.360 the thing is the music what it depicts, and then 1:13:57.479 --> 1:14:00.000 knowing what the charges, not even what the music depend 1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:03.760 it's more so with the music enabled the power of 1:14:03.840 --> 1:14:06.679 the music and the power period, right, but the sexual 1:14:06.840 --> 1:14:09.880 content thinking that you're talking to a woman or whatever. 1:14:10.320 --> 1:14:13.000 Then knowing now, that's probably where people have problems, you know, 1:14:13.160 --> 1:14:16.120 connecting know that think it's great, but then have a 1:14:16.160 --> 1:14:17.640 hard time. But at the time, while I was being 1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:21.760 inspired by it, I'm a kid. I don't know. Yeah, 1:14:22.240 --> 1:14:25.479 but people will see that and say, you know the 1:14:25.560 --> 1:14:28.280 headline O tank was inspired by R. Kelly and not 1:14:28.400 --> 1:14:30.799 put it in and not put it in proper context. 1:14:31.040 --> 1:14:33.840 Every R and B singer you ever run into from now, 1:14:34.360 --> 1:14:37.479 from then to now on, we'll tell you he's the guy. 1:14:38.800 --> 1:14:41.680 You can't deny our Kelly. How many rappers careers if 1:14:41.680 --> 1:14:43.439 they didn't have R Kelly on the home the hook? 1:14:44.680 --> 1:14:47.160 You gotta like, you gotta give, you gotta give, you 1:14:47.240 --> 1:14:50.720 gotta give that, yeah, if you don't give nothing else. Yeah, 1:14:51.120 --> 1:14:53.880 that's why I broke up the Cosby Show because the 1:14:54.000 --> 1:14:56.160 Cosby Show is just it was it was it was 1:14:56.280 --> 1:14:58.920 everything we needed. It was funny about the Cosby Show. 1:14:58.960 --> 1:15:01.080 Sorry to change such a a little bit, but you 1:15:01.200 --> 1:15:04.000 notice no one from the Cosby Show is dis in Bil, 1:15:05.400 --> 1:15:08.760 not one of them. It's one character that was Denise's 1:15:08.840 --> 1:15:12.000 old boyfriend, that's it. But none of them are this 1:15:12.160 --> 1:15:13.760 and Bill. Well, because you have to look at it 1:15:13.880 --> 1:15:17.560 like this, right, and let's say, let's say there is 1:15:17.600 --> 1:15:20.800 a monster that is Bill Cosby. Let's just say it hypothetically. 1:15:21.800 --> 1:15:25.720 I guarantee you they never got to see him. I 1:15:25.800 --> 1:15:29.479 guarantee you they never met him. Only only person they 1:15:29.560 --> 1:15:31.880 met was was a man that changed their lives for 1:15:32.000 --> 1:15:35.719 the better. Right, they gave them an opportunity to probably 1:15:35.800 --> 1:15:39.960 so somebody else wouldn't. Nobody else would. That's what they see, 1:15:40.840 --> 1:15:43.080 you know what I mean? So how do you? How 1:15:43.120 --> 1:15:45.759 do you? How do you say something against that? If anything, 1:15:45.800 --> 1:15:49.400 you can't say nothing at all to be in support 1:15:49.560 --> 1:15:52.479 or or nothing. I don't know who you guys know, 1:15:52.720 --> 1:15:54.639 who you guys see, or who you guys have met, 1:15:54.760 --> 1:15:57.560 but the man that I met changed my life for 1:15:57.680 --> 1:16:00.640 the better. I wouldn't be the So I am the 1:16:00.720 --> 1:16:05.479 woman of the man that I am without that man, right, Look, 1:16:06.439 --> 1:16:10.640 come says Shaquillo now jokingly look says that it's not 1:16:10.760 --> 1:16:13.840 really blind. Get joking, sad, Just Stevie one is not 1:16:14.000 --> 1:16:19.080 really blind the elevator saying, what's up? I just told 1:16:19.120 --> 1:16:24.880 you he's blind, but he can see some ship. I 1:16:25.000 --> 1:16:28.080 love that. By the way, we got one more question 1:16:30.040 --> 1:16:33.800 to Okay, sorry, I thought it was just not go 1:16:33.880 --> 1:16:37.000 on that tangent? Was that me? That's my phone, that's all. 1:16:37.040 --> 1:16:39.000 We didn't do. No, we didn't do the that's that's 1:16:39.000 --> 1:16:45.560 our phone. Actually, okay. Oh TLC or s w V. 1:16:48.240 --> 1:16:49.920 I love that. No, no, no, no, no no, I'm 1:16:49.960 --> 1:16:54.120 just I'm just cooling my drink off. I'm just have 1:16:54.280 --> 1:16:58.160 one ready. I'm going with I'm just cooling my drink. Okay, 1:16:58.760 --> 1:17:04.840 it's cool and cute a drinker. That's w V. That's 1:17:05.000 --> 1:17:11.400 w V over T easy cocoa. We need s w 1:17:11.520 --> 1:17:14.519 B and and well Jack Jack said he could get 1:17:14.560 --> 1:17:25.280 a jack through. That's right, that's rights Coco single. And 1:17:25.320 --> 1:17:28.320 then my girls too. I just did a show with 1:17:28.360 --> 1:17:33.559 them not too longer. Love love them, love them. Last question, 1:17:33.800 --> 1:17:42.360 all right, loyalty or respect. It's a great question. It's 1:17:42.400 --> 1:17:54.599 a great question. I'm gonna go with, just take a shot. Nope, 1:17:59.600 --> 1:18:04.519 I'm anna with respect. Okay, we definitely need an explanation 1:18:04.560 --> 1:18:12.000 for this. Respect Why because because loyalty has so many 1:18:12.800 --> 1:18:17.240 levels to it. There's so many levels to it in 1:18:17.400 --> 1:18:21.280 terms of what you require from something or someone in 1:18:21.439 --> 1:18:25.840 order for it to feel like loyalty. It just it 1:18:25.960 --> 1:18:30.160 just varies so much. But as long as I have 1:18:30.320 --> 1:18:33.800 your respect, as long as you understand that I am 1:18:33.880 --> 1:18:37.040 who I am and I do what I do, and 1:18:37.160 --> 1:18:40.400 you can acknowledge that, I can live with that, as 1:18:40.439 --> 1:18:43.000 long as you can say, you know what, whether you 1:18:43.320 --> 1:18:46.920 whether you stay with me or not in terms whether 1:18:46.920 --> 1:18:49.240 it's business or a person or whatever it is, as 1:18:49.320 --> 1:18:53.439 long as you can announce acknowledge that motherfucker did right 1:18:53.479 --> 1:18:56.559 about me. He is what he is, he is everything 1:18:56.640 --> 1:19:00.599 he says he is. But I can live with it. Man. 1:19:00.760 --> 1:19:02.400 I'm gonna take a shot to that though. I'm gonna 1:19:02.439 --> 1:19:07.680 be honest, even though because because you know why, we 1:19:08.000 --> 1:19:12.680 me and we solo. I'm gonna get over there. I 1:19:12.720 --> 1:19:23.040 think so. And we always say both, yeah, and we 1:19:23.120 --> 1:19:26.679 always say both to it because well that's the answer. 1:19:27.040 --> 1:19:29.040 When it was answered that way, we all it made 1:19:29.080 --> 1:19:30.840 the most sense to us, right. I mean, I'm still 1:19:30.840 --> 1:19:34.880 I'm still with both. I'm still with both because I 1:19:34.960 --> 1:19:38.160 think loyal with loyalty comes respect. I think respect comes loyalty. 1:19:38.560 --> 1:19:44.960 They're not handed in the same sense. Okay, yeah, because 1:19:45.320 --> 1:19:47.920 at some point we have to consider self preservation, right, 1:19:48.520 --> 1:19:50.880 and so as we consider self preservation, we have to 1:19:51.000 --> 1:19:54.400 consider that for the other person, and sometimes within the 1:19:54.479 --> 1:19:59.440 interests of self preservation, you are now not the priority. 1:20:00.040 --> 1:20:04.160 M Like, I love you, but in the interests of 1:20:04.200 --> 1:20:08.960 self preservation, I can't pick you right, and so the 1:20:09.080 --> 1:20:12.760 respect takes over when you're able to come to me 1:20:13.160 --> 1:20:17.040 and articulate that I respect you. So let's let me 1:20:17.160 --> 1:20:19.120 have this conversation with you. Whether it be a tough 1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:22.799 conversation or not, it's when there there's no respect involved 1:20:23.360 --> 1:20:32.240 where that disloyal situations can be wrong by both. You 1:20:32.360 --> 1:20:36.120 can't but respect. If you don't want to wrong with 1:20:36.200 --> 1:20:40.000 me no more after everything I've done, at least come 1:20:40.000 --> 1:20:42.280 and tell me. Don't let me find out on the streets. 1:20:42.360 --> 1:20:45.280 Have that kind of respect for me. That's that's why 1:20:45.280 --> 1:20:47.000 I could respect. I think the reason why we would 1:20:47.000 --> 1:20:49.040 say both is because we feel when you have both, 1:20:49.640 --> 1:20:52.680 there's better chances in heah, it'll be a better situation 1:20:52.960 --> 1:20:56.840 when there's just one there, there's more opportunity can tell 1:20:56.840 --> 1:21:00.479 you it's it's it's hard to get both after it's 1:21:00.520 --> 1:21:02.600 hard to get even when you think it's usually not 1:21:03.280 --> 1:21:07.800 the both are this moment circles this moment. I can 1:21:07.840 --> 1:21:12.720 count those people on one and a half hands. Right, 1:21:13.120 --> 1:21:20.000 let's make some noise for that. Good questions? What era 1:21:20.760 --> 1:21:23.600 of R and B do you think has is the 1:21:23.680 --> 1:21:27.160 most impactful? Nineties? And that what google should we talking 1:21:27.160 --> 1:21:30.519 about in the nineties boys men to see even before 1:21:30.600 --> 1:21:36.599 the going back to Kelly sixties and seven, Juine, Drew Hill, 1:21:38.120 --> 1:21:44.640 uh Jacket, Edge one twelve, Danielle Jones, Monica Brandy And 1:21:44.720 --> 1:21:46.880 why do you think that's the most impactful. Why do 1:21:46.920 --> 1:21:48.400 you think those groups? What did they do that you 1:21:48.479 --> 1:21:52.000 feel most impactful. I'll be selfish first and say they 1:21:52.120 --> 1:21:56.920 made me. I'll start there, um and that was my era, 1:21:57.040 --> 1:21:58.639 That's the ere I lived in. That's the era where 1:21:58.680 --> 1:22:01.240 I put on some into pocket guest jings in the 1:22:01.280 --> 1:22:04.800 party shirt and and went to some young ladies house 1:22:04.840 --> 1:22:07.000 who was having the basement party. You know what I'm saying, 1:22:07.400 --> 1:22:10.200 And we gotta try and put the lights off, you 1:22:10.240 --> 1:22:14.160 know what I'm saying finger popping. Absolutely, what do you 1:22:14.280 --> 1:22:17.760 mean not so lovely? Just get a little bit on 1:22:17.840 --> 1:22:28.400 that figured Okay, pack my hands out. This is straight banker, 1:22:30.360 --> 1:22:41.080 I'm big. That's my era, like where they were the 1:22:41.200 --> 1:22:45.120 last even when you know the up tempos were ruling 1:22:45.280 --> 1:22:48.479 through in the world the last hour, hour and a 1:22:48.600 --> 1:22:53.280 half of whatever function you was at. Slow jams, you 1:22:53.360 --> 1:22:56.439 got to you got to really dig in and grab 1:22:56.640 --> 1:22:59.720 them cheeks and side to side. Man, what you're doing 1:22:59.840 --> 1:23:02.400 like they're like, I've been feeling you all know, I've 1:23:02.439 --> 1:23:04.479 been looking at you. I've been looking at you, looking 1:23:04.479 --> 1:23:06.360 at me, look at you, look at me, like me, 1:23:07.320 --> 1:23:12.320 like what are we doing? Closing one of the fights 1:23:12.439 --> 1:23:15.280 at the club after that, I always I was always 1:23:15.320 --> 1:23:18.240 jealous of your RB niggas. Because of that. You should 1:23:18.240 --> 1:23:22.439 have been like, like, my ship is ending with we 1:23:22.560 --> 1:23:25.400 all then we barty and I'm doing the best performance 1:23:25.479 --> 1:23:28.200 that with someone want to stab some nigga, I'm like, 1:23:28.320 --> 1:23:30.640 I hate this ship. I go to R because these 1:23:30.640 --> 1:23:39.560 things gotta fights. You you're so fu No no no, no, 1:23:39.680 --> 1:23:45.560 not mean that's Music's tell what you did getting a 1:23:45.640 --> 1:23:51.160 man been stabbed? Because if you're walk through to man, 1:23:52.560 --> 1:23:54.160 you know what I was. I was to jealous. I 1:23:54.200 --> 1:23:57.439 went to a Mic Apps concert, yeah, and I just answer, 1:23:57.520 --> 1:24:00.200 just wanted to see how this ship feel, and it 1:24:00.400 --> 1:24:03.400 was all positive energy. I was like, yeah, do you 1:24:03.560 --> 1:24:07.320 know how y'all blessed? Like hip hop? We hip hop. 1:24:07.400 --> 1:24:09.680 You gotta be on point because you just feel like 1:24:09.800 --> 1:24:12.640 someone else is just gonna test you or try you. 1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:14.560 But when I go to R and B, or I 1:24:14.680 --> 1:24:17.800 go to a comedian concert and I just sit there 1:24:17.840 --> 1:24:23.519 and there's no valid very jealous. Validation is different. Your 1:24:23.640 --> 1:24:28.080 validation is a rap sheet that's just suck up. That's 1:24:28.120 --> 1:24:33.360 funny because it's true. It's funny. That's your validation. You 1:24:33.520 --> 1:24:40.559 have to have attempted murder, being the murder can serve 1:24:40.680 --> 1:24:45.040 the drug and shot they want you to get at. 1:24:45.080 --> 1:24:51.439 He's grazy, show me the wound. Yeah, it's a survival music. 1:24:51.520 --> 1:24:58.640 It's still yeah. My validation. Let's my validation is a 1:24:58.720 --> 1:25:04.120 woman screaming out loud. But there could be dangerous too, 1:25:04.360 --> 1:25:11.599 like hey, got wed let me just let me tell 1:25:11.600 --> 1:25:14.800 you something. When I did regg E thron for the 1:25:15.400 --> 1:25:17.680 year and a half two years i did, I was 1:25:17.800 --> 1:25:20.679 probably the most happiest I've ever been at the music 1:25:21.320 --> 1:25:24.680 because I would party and in Orlando you said on 1:25:24.760 --> 1:25:28.320 Lando earlier, Land was one of mym and we were 1:25:28.479 --> 1:25:32.280 party and party afterwards. I wasn't used to that. I 1:25:32.400 --> 1:25:36.360 was used to party and then the party closes, something's 1:25:36.360 --> 1:25:37.760 going to happen, and I could sit there and I 1:25:37.840 --> 1:25:40.160 could just damn and I was just I was like 1:25:40.240 --> 1:25:41.960 the happiest guy. I should have been a vegan at 1:25:41.960 --> 1:25:44.880 the time, because I was just happy because because you 1:25:44.920 --> 1:25:48.240 knew to be happy and like I was just said, 1:25:48.400 --> 1:25:50.519 and I was like when I realized, then I went 1:25:50.560 --> 1:25:53.120 back to hip hop and I had to get back 1:25:53.439 --> 1:25:56.840 used to violence like that was just you have no 1:25:57.040 --> 1:26:00.439 front ship, wasn't done a drink. I'm a be honest. 1:26:00.479 --> 1:26:03.840 I'm gonna be honest. Nine nine shows and a hundred 1:26:03.920 --> 1:26:07.120 shows of reggae through I swear to god, probably ninety 1:26:07.160 --> 1:26:10.679 nine of them. Nothing nothing ever happened. Nothing, nothing never happened, 1:26:10.680 --> 1:26:12.559 I swear to god. It's nothing to say. That's why 1:26:12.560 --> 1:26:14.160 I said ninety nine. I never said that. Was that 1:26:14.280 --> 1:26:17.240 one of them that who was that and got crazy? 1:26:17.680 --> 1:26:25.479 It's probably because when she makes nothing, y'all, yeah, it happens. 1:26:26.439 --> 1:26:34.160 Probably crowd. I don't even do that. Inspires you to 1:26:34.560 --> 1:26:38.679 show what you made, though, But that's fuck does sheet music? 1:26:39.640 --> 1:26:45.280 That's you know, say I got a rap sheet as 1:26:45.360 --> 1:26:48.680 it in today's time, because nobody's really checking them all, 1:26:48.760 --> 1:26:54.200 not all MC's not all rappers. It's fabricated. Not all 1:26:54.240 --> 1:26:56.559 of them are rhyming about that, that's true. I mean 1:26:56.840 --> 1:27:03.960 most star nine D sound that's a percentage. Look at 1:27:04.000 --> 1:27:06.080 the charts. No charge. If you're talking about charges, that 1:27:06.439 --> 1:27:08.800 what's the I mean? But but but that's how we're 1:27:08.800 --> 1:27:14.360 identified rights a lot of things that if they want 1:27:14.400 --> 1:27:16.880 to know the best about, that's where they look. They 1:27:16.960 --> 1:27:22.519 looking mainstream culture, right, and what is maxstream culture? It's violence, 1:27:22.960 --> 1:27:27.040 just drug dealing, is drug selling us? That's what That's 1:27:27.080 --> 1:27:32.080 what they that's what they perceived the best. Why why 1:27:32.160 --> 1:27:37.120 is that the best of us? Why? Like Sam Smith 1:27:37.200 --> 1:27:41.400 gets to sing a great song about stay with Me 1:27:42.880 --> 1:27:46.479 that goes straight to power rotation on the mainstream radio station. 1:27:46.640 --> 1:27:52.879 If I sing that same song stay with Me, limited bandwidth. 1:27:55.160 --> 1:28:06.120 Because our violence isn't the threat our love it Yeah, 1:28:09.840 --> 1:28:15.639 our family separated, it's fine, it's perfect. The man staying 1:28:15.680 --> 1:28:18.599 with his family and raising his kids and pouring into 1:28:18.760 --> 1:28:23.880 his woman, that's a threat. You're about to be a preacher. 1:28:30.600 --> 1:28:32.720 And that's what R and B stands for. And that's 1:28:32.720 --> 1:28:35.759 why R and B takes such a back seat, because 1:28:35.800 --> 1:28:42.000 we're not promoting the aesthetic that continues to perpetuate the stereotype. 1:28:43.640 --> 1:28:46.599 You guys are killers, you guys are animals, You guys 1:28:46.640 --> 1:28:51.160 are savages. That's when you're at your best. So that's 1:28:51.200 --> 1:28:55.040 what we're going to reward. Those are the guys who 1:28:55.120 --> 1:28:58.320 get the hundred million dollar deals. Those are the guys 1:28:58.400 --> 1:29:02.559 who fill up the arenas and stadiums to talk that ship. 1:29:02.760 --> 1:29:09.280 We love when you talk that ship love, We're cool. 1:29:10.200 --> 1:29:14.840 We're cool. I love love you do. Wasn't love and 1:29:14.920 --> 1:29:24.680 love popular? We don't control, we don't own conglomerates. It 1:29:24.800 --> 1:29:31.880 comes down to ownership. Yeah, we don't own radio, we 1:29:32.040 --> 1:29:36.519 don't own streaming, we don't own media, we don't own 1:29:36.600 --> 1:29:41.120 none of it. But we own our feelings. And it's 1:29:41.280 --> 1:29:44.720 very seldom that people promote love and love, love and 1:29:44.800 --> 1:29:47.640 being in love well, because what happens now is that 1:29:47.840 --> 1:29:50.680 with with social media and all these other things, you 1:29:50.840 --> 1:29:54.960 get hypnotized by an algorithm, so and everybody wants to 1:29:55.000 --> 1:29:58.000 be popping right. So in the idea of wanting to 1:29:58.040 --> 1:30:01.880 be popping, You're gonna roll with what's popping. Nobody's they're 1:30:01.880 --> 1:30:04.280 not leaders anymore. The followers like what happened in the 1:30:04.360 --> 1:30:07.600 oscars that that became immediately everybody had to post that 1:30:07.760 --> 1:30:13.720 had they want they wanted to be so bad. It's 1:30:13.760 --> 1:30:16.559 the algorithm. I'm sorry, you have a business. I got 1:30:19.760 --> 1:30:23.880 you didn't, I mean whatever. I'm just saying last night immediately, 1:30:23.960 --> 1:30:27.439 not a second past. And that means they put everybody 1:30:27.479 --> 1:30:29.320 bom bom bom. And I'm like, wow, we live in 1:30:29.360 --> 1:30:35.240 a mean beef in that algorithm, right, And so the 1:30:35.320 --> 1:30:44.080 algorithm is is drugs, abuse of any kind, ratchet killing. 1:30:44.439 --> 1:30:47.160 It's all like it's a I'm victim of it. I'm 1:30:47.200 --> 1:30:51.800 a world star. Like I'm just looking. I'm like, you know, 1:30:52.320 --> 1:31:00.679 and I'm seeing that the headline you doing something take yeah, 1:31:01.360 --> 1:31:05.240 accidentally accidentally shoots her friend in the in the head. 1:31:05.320 --> 1:31:08.360 I'm like saw that. I'm like and I'm like, I 1:31:08.439 --> 1:31:11.280 have to click that. I have to see what that is. 1:31:12.240 --> 1:31:18.920 So that's where we are in society, especially ours over 1:31:19.040 --> 1:31:22.000 my man Danny people. Yeah, yeah, so we could we 1:31:22.040 --> 1:31:24.880 could post some cool love shot. All you can say tomorrow. 1:31:24.920 --> 1:31:27.640 I'm in love my life. I say all the time, 1:31:27.680 --> 1:31:31.559 I'm married, but nothing's gonna get married to Nothering's gonna 1:31:31.560 --> 1:31:34.960 go more viral out here, smack of a mask. If 1:31:35.000 --> 1:31:37.760 you say, you know what, I'm gonna be honest with y'all. 1:31:37.920 --> 1:31:43.759 I got I got two bodies in Denver. H don't 1:31:44.560 --> 1:31:51.240 I won't saying that nothing would be more fun to 1:31:51.320 --> 1:31:55.920 hell with your love. Yeah, with your love, your brown love, 1:31:56.640 --> 1:32:02.000 about your brown legs. We care about your brown savagery. 1:32:03.280 --> 1:32:08.439 Show us the savage. That's when you're at your best. 1:32:09.720 --> 1:32:12.160 I always go back to, like I think about, think 1:32:12.200 --> 1:32:15.679 about Denzel. You what he said told Will? He said, 1:32:15.880 --> 1:32:18.200 the Devil's gonna come at you when you're at your high. 1:32:18.280 --> 1:32:24.719 Of course, of course it's gonna be Would imagine didn't 1:32:24.720 --> 1:32:29.160 Tel winning an oscar for training day and not winning 1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:35.920 for Malcolm X. It's the world we're living. Yeah? Did 1:32:35.960 --> 1:32:40.800 he did he work? Did he work? One of my 1:32:40.880 --> 1:32:46.080 favorite movies of Denzel Remember the Titans football? Absolutely, you 1:32:46.160 --> 1:32:50.920 will remember the night you played the Titans. Whether you 1:32:51.000 --> 1:32:53.519 win or lose, you don't remember this night. I used that. 1:32:53.920 --> 1:32:55.360 I used that to do you remember like the saw 1:32:55.640 --> 1:32:58.439 to night you saw Tank? Yeah? You gave me when 1:32:58.439 --> 1:33:04.240 you get lucky enough what you're doing right. But but imagine, 1:33:04.960 --> 1:33:10.240 imagine winning for being a crooked cop, being a nigger 1:33:10.240 --> 1:33:13.280 at its finest. But let's just be clear, Tank and 1:33:13.520 --> 1:33:17.320 all honesty. He killed, that's not going to lie to you. 1:33:17.560 --> 1:33:21.439 He did, but didn't kill everything that everything he didn't. 1:33:21.960 --> 1:33:24.200 But I don't sell it for that or not anything else, 1:33:24.439 --> 1:33:26.000 you know what, I'm gonna be honest. I think that 1:33:26.120 --> 1:33:29.000 they slept on Malcolm X and they didn't. They didn't 1:33:29.040 --> 1:33:32.479 want to give that power black image. We're not giving 1:33:32.720 --> 1:33:38.320 power to black. I respect that power. What it is 1:33:39.920 --> 1:33:43.880 you're going to win in the space we think you 1:33:43.920 --> 1:33:47.360 should win in where we think you're at your best. 1:33:49.720 --> 1:33:52.840 This is where you live for us. Now we will 1:33:52.920 --> 1:33:57.200 reward you how that works. I'm about to say, take 1:33:57.240 --> 1:33:58.559 a shot, but I don't think she'd take a shot 1:33:58.600 --> 1:34:08.679 for that. Probably not, but maybe not just as real. 1:34:09.400 --> 1:34:12.880 It's real, And I'm not listening as much as as 1:34:12.960 --> 1:34:16.719 much as the Will you know smacking, you know, smack 1:34:16.760 --> 1:34:20.120 and Chris is a thing. I'm not gonna let that 1:34:20.280 --> 1:34:27.160 overshadow the fact that Will got his oscar. He did 1:34:27.160 --> 1:34:33.600 you see the movie? Actually Smith wanted for absolutely. I 1:34:33.720 --> 1:34:36.800 was obviously with the movie what's that? What do you mean? 1:34:37.360 --> 1:34:40.240 Because and I think I think it probably was a 1:34:40.360 --> 1:34:44.720 licensing issue because I felt like we never got to 1:34:44.880 --> 1:34:51.040 see Venus and Serena do everything that they did, and 1:34:51.120 --> 1:34:53.600 maybe that's for another movie. Yeah, you know, but I 1:34:53.800 --> 1:34:56.519 was I was waiting about Tupac. I was I was 1:34:56.640 --> 1:35:01.120 waiting to go into all the grands. I was waiting 1:35:01.160 --> 1:35:04.640 to go there because I watched all of it, and 1:35:04.760 --> 1:35:06.320 that's all. That's only when I was mad at I 1:35:06.400 --> 1:35:07.920 got to where it didn't go there. I got where 1:35:08.360 --> 1:35:12.320 I probably didn't. There's some probably some Venus and Serena 1:35:12.400 --> 1:35:15.759 was like, now that that's ours, this story, his story. 1:35:17.120 --> 1:35:18.560 That's what I felt like. I felt like it was 1:35:18.680 --> 1:35:22.519 his story with them in it. But I wanted to 1:35:22.600 --> 1:35:24.600 see that. So was it? What was his name? Was 1:35:24.640 --> 1:35:27.800 the name of it? You can't watch that and not 1:35:27.920 --> 1:35:30.240 be like, I gotta be a better parent or create 1:35:30.280 --> 1:35:34.519 a better structure all the time. Can we take a 1:35:34.520 --> 1:35:43.320 shot to came rich? Figure? I say this all the time. 1:35:43.360 --> 1:35:45.640 I said the other day in Queen's Bridge, I said, Yo, 1:35:46.080 --> 1:35:51.160 the first time I actually thought I saw like over extended, 1:35:51.880 --> 1:35:55.240 extended the amount of love was watching wrong our tests 1:35:55.600 --> 1:35:59.479 as father t and they I mean, you know when 1:35:59.479 --> 1:36:01.920 New York sit. So I'm from left Frac City, but 1:36:01.960 --> 1:36:03.600 I used to go to Queensbridge and go visit my 1:36:03.680 --> 1:36:06.320 friends and it was too cold for us to even 1:36:06.400 --> 1:36:09.080 stand outside. And I would see Ron Artests and his 1:36:09.200 --> 1:36:12.840 father and he'll be throwing the ball like staring his 1:36:13.040 --> 1:36:18.040 chest and this is snowing, he's slipping, he's picking them up, 1:36:19.200 --> 1:36:22.360 and at first my first thought was this is child abuse. 1:36:22.640 --> 1:36:24.479 But first of all, excuse me. It was so bad. 1:36:24.560 --> 1:36:26.360 At first, I didn't even know that was his father, 1:36:26.920 --> 1:36:31.360 I thought because because I didn't think that was they 1:36:31.400 --> 1:36:33.960 were brothers. And then I realized, I said, yo, the same. 1:36:34.439 --> 1:36:36.320 They go at it all the time, these brothers, and 1:36:36.360 --> 1:36:40.400 they're like, nah, that's Ron's father. So he would be 1:36:40.479 --> 1:36:43.120 out there in the snow, like I know for a 1:36:43.240 --> 1:36:45.880 fact one million per cent Ron Artest is one million 1:36:45.920 --> 1:36:49.360 percent in NBA because of his father. I got to 1:36:49.439 --> 1:36:52.240 see this ship with myself. I'm talking about in the snow. 1:36:52.520 --> 1:36:54.280 I'll be sitting there's it's too cold for me to 1:36:54.320 --> 1:36:56.840 smell cracker because I'm out there like that, and these 1:36:56.920 --> 1:36:59.519 nickers is out there. That's that was my job. I'm sorry. 1:37:00.520 --> 1:37:14.000 That was sun cry. So I'm still handsome, Freezing. You 1:37:14.120 --> 1:37:16.280 need to go back, and you need to go back 1:37:16.320 --> 1:37:19.360 and cook Freezing. And I'm seeing him throwing the ball 1:37:19.439 --> 1:37:21.040 at him, and then they told him that's his father 1:37:21.479 --> 1:37:24.240 and I was like, so there was no When I 1:37:24.320 --> 1:37:27.759 went on to you know, become, it was like, damn, 1:37:27.880 --> 1:37:33.120 Like that was the strongest father figure I've ever seen me. 1:37:34.000 --> 1:37:37.200 And it was so strong that I actually like, WHOA. 1:37:37.760 --> 1:37:39.600 I didn't even accept it. I was like that that 1:37:39.720 --> 1:37:42.439 was wrong. And then went to the NBA. I was like, 1:37:42.720 --> 1:37:45.439 I knew that ship bro. I felt then it Listen. 1:37:45.800 --> 1:37:48.400 They talked about Joe Jackson like that was wrong, right, 1:37:49.320 --> 1:37:52.320 They talked about Matthew Knowles like that was wrong. But 1:37:52.920 --> 1:37:55.000 guess what came out of that Richard like he was 1:37:56.280 --> 1:38:02.120 like he was crazy, he was doing too much. Yeah, relax, yes, relaxed. No, 1:38:02.200 --> 1:38:04.360 I'm not gonna relax. She told you she was gonna 1:38:04.400 --> 1:38:06.519 within it. She told you was confident. She told you 1:38:06.560 --> 1:38:10.400 why I stopped nothing with that, And look what you made. 1:38:12.760 --> 1:38:17.120 You're gonna beat somebody. Ye if I got something to 1:38:17.200 --> 1:38:21.360 do with it, You're gonna beat somebody. M you reward 1:38:21.479 --> 1:38:29.280 that all right, King Richard, King Richard, I don't want 1:38:29.360 --> 1:38:32.599 some of this Japanese del y'all. I'm gona take another shot, Jane. 1:38:33.040 --> 1:38:38.559 I feel like you said, I'm doing the real del all. 1:38:38.840 --> 1:38:41.320 Let me yes, yes, yes, I'm doing the deal. After this, 1:38:41.800 --> 1:38:47.400 this is a rocket deli again. After that, it's something 1:38:47.400 --> 1:38:58.280 sexy to represent this print. Let me ask you something, please, 1:38:59.800 --> 1:39:03.280 I've seen you in this industry. We've been both in 1:39:03.360 --> 1:39:08.920 this industry a long time. You've always smiling, you always 1:39:09.000 --> 1:39:14.080 in a good mood. Is that a front? Or is 1:39:14.160 --> 1:39:17.519 that really like you? Really love life like that? I mean, 1:39:17.600 --> 1:39:19.400 I think if you're gonna say yes, I know you're 1:39:19.400 --> 1:39:23.200 gonna say yes. I guess what my mother acts is. 1:39:24.280 --> 1:39:27.680 I felt out of love with this music business, not 1:39:27.840 --> 1:39:33.360 with the music, the music badness. Have you ever felt 1:39:33.360 --> 1:39:35.840 out of love with the music business? Fell out of 1:39:35.960 --> 1:39:39.120 love with the music business? You ever in love with 1:39:39.240 --> 1:39:41.840 the music business? Oh? I have the business of it. 1:39:42.400 --> 1:39:46.760 I was in love with all of it from I 1:39:46.800 --> 1:39:52.599 signed the out on. But still I'm still in love 1:39:52.640 --> 1:39:55.160 with it anyway, still in love with the music business. 1:39:55.400 --> 1:39:57.240 I was still in love with it. I gotta get 1:39:57.280 --> 1:39:59.320 in there, and I got in and I was in 1:39:59.439 --> 1:40:03.880 love and in two thousand two I had fifteen hundred 1:40:03.920 --> 1:40:05.559 dollars in my account and the man owed me seven 1:40:05.680 --> 1:40:11.640 hundred thousand. This man is and he wouldn't give it 1:40:11.720 --> 1:40:16.479 to me. You have hundred. He owes you seven. This 1:40:16.640 --> 1:40:20.360 calculation is crazy. Had a wife and a kid. Wouldn't 1:40:20.439 --> 1:40:24.200 give it to me. I knew he owed me, wouldn't 1:40:24.280 --> 1:40:28.280 give it to me. I tried to. I tried to hurt, 1:40:28.400 --> 1:40:33.960 said man, I'm not a gangster, not affiliated. I know people, 1:40:34.800 --> 1:40:39.599 but I'm a soldier. So for mine, I'm a ride 1:40:39.720 --> 1:40:44.080 or die for mine. And I adopted that. I tried 1:40:44.200 --> 1:40:48.840 that right, which set me on the bench for and 1:40:49.000 --> 1:40:54.360 said man did pay. Said men paid a little. L 1:40:54.400 --> 1:40:59.800 A Reid said man paid a little. Why I needed it? No, 1:41:00.920 --> 1:41:07.040 went from seven hundred thousand to a hundred. Yeah needed it. 1:41:08.080 --> 1:41:13.759 H needed it. Caught me slipping fun this music business. 1:41:14.479 --> 1:41:17.960 That's that's my point. Like this music buss. The more 1:41:18.040 --> 1:41:21.559 I learned about the business, and I'm watching I'm first off, 1:41:21.760 --> 1:41:25.439 I'm watching the promo guy. I'm watching myself do fifty 1:41:25.960 --> 1:41:30.160 promo shows and I'm watching the promo go to the 1:41:30.280 --> 1:41:33.560 back room and grab cash, and you're doing it for 1:41:33.680 --> 1:41:40.880 free back this wait funck this up funk this fun 1:41:41.000 --> 1:41:45.920 this music game. Yeah, I'm at a house on Ved 1:41:46.000 --> 1:41:49.559 all day one day, walk into a club one day. 1:41:49.600 --> 1:41:51.000 Let me let me me go back. I walk into 1:41:51.040 --> 1:41:55.559 a club one day and somebody screams, take look over, 1:41:56.320 --> 1:41:59.880 Jamie Fox. I walk over Jamie Fox and my hey 1:42:00.040 --> 1:42:01.960 man was like, he said, man, I've been looking for you, nigga. 1:42:02.560 --> 1:42:08.639 You look calls nigga. We gotta talk at this time. 1:42:08.800 --> 1:42:12.320 I'm having these feelings. Fuck the music business. I go 1:42:12.439 --> 1:42:14.960 back to the d m V. I'll be the minister 1:42:15.120 --> 1:42:18.040 music at somebody's church. Finished my calling to be a preacher. 1:42:18.640 --> 1:42:22.400 I'll do that. I'm standing in Jamie Foxx's kitchen with 1:42:22.560 --> 1:42:25.439 him and his sister Dietro, and he's like, so, what's 1:42:25.479 --> 1:42:27.120 the man, what we're doing? Like, what's going on? Said, 1:42:27.120 --> 1:42:30.479 I ain't doing nothing. I'm about to go home. I'm 1:42:30.479 --> 1:42:33.600 about to go the church thing, move back into my 1:42:33.680 --> 1:42:36.360 mom's house until I can figure my own place out. 1:42:36.720 --> 1:42:42.040 He's like, you got the records out, okay record He like, 1:42:43.000 --> 1:42:46.040 You're like, you can't go home. It's the funk. I can't. 1:42:46.280 --> 1:42:49.040 He said, no, you can't. He said, what I'm gonna do. 1:42:50.760 --> 1:42:53.280 That's what you mean? He said, Who's gonna inspire me? 1:42:54.680 --> 1:42:57.920 I'll look to you. He just said, ain't know where 1:42:57.920 --> 1:43:00.639 you're going home, Niger at the do you dream playing? 1:43:00.640 --> 1:43:03.400 You ain't going nowhere naked. We're gonna fight this, We're 1:43:03.400 --> 1:43:06.960 gonna ride this ship out, Nick, And I'm like, well 1:43:07.000 --> 1:43:11.760 what at this time, I'm kind of homeless. He's like, 1:43:11.840 --> 1:43:13.760 what you're gonna do? He said, this is what you're 1:43:13.800 --> 1:43:17.160 gonna do. You're gonna use my studio and you're gonna 1:43:17.160 --> 1:43:21.040 live in my house until you figure at the funk out. Wow. 1:43:21.479 --> 1:43:30.439 Jamie Fox, real nigger like that? Wow? That I would 1:43:30.479 --> 1:43:34.360 love to Jamie Fox and Brian and Brian too. So 1:43:34.400 --> 1:43:39.920 if Jennie Fox doesn't say that there's no tank, there's 1:43:40.120 --> 1:43:44.640 there is no sex, love in pain? What wrong you 1:43:44.800 --> 1:43:47.200 there to say that? She was about to quick? What? What? 1:43:47.360 --> 1:43:49.960 What was? What was that moment? I saw people who 1:43:50.040 --> 1:43:53.640 weren't as good as me making it right? So the 1:43:53.760 --> 1:43:55.280 niggas ain't like me. It ain't as good as me, 1:43:55.880 --> 1:43:58.360 And you're not a hate. It's not a hater, but 1:44:00.000 --> 1:44:02.640 I compete for a living. Nigga ain't nice like me? 1:44:03.560 --> 1:44:04.840 But there at the top of the charge. Look at 1:44:04.840 --> 1:44:06.759 them niggas, I kill him niggas every not on stage 1:44:07.560 --> 1:44:11.439 don't want to work like I'm a hundred percenter Like 1:44:11.560 --> 1:44:14.519 most people don't know what that is. Two. I produce it, 1:44:14.800 --> 1:44:24.840 write it, sing it, perform it by myself. You know, 1:44:30.800 --> 1:44:34.519 they changed they changed publishing rules for two people because 1:44:34.520 --> 1:44:37.800 of R Kelly, because the Tank. Oh, we can't have 1:44:37.960 --> 1:44:41.120 you placing ten songs on one album. We have to 1:44:41.200 --> 1:44:44.920 create thresholds, we have to create benchmarks. So at two 1:44:45.040 --> 1:44:48.080 hundred and fifty thousand records, three songs count. At five 1:44:48.160 --> 1:44:50.920 hundred thousand records, three and a half songs count. At 1:44:50.960 --> 1:44:53.840 a million, all the songs count, but not unto then 1:44:54.160 --> 1:44:57.920 for you and Rob, because I was running through them. 1:44:58.360 --> 1:45:01.080 Give me my back end, now give me my front an. 1:45:02.080 --> 1:45:06.400 I got eight on this one hunt a per center? Right, 1:45:07.240 --> 1:45:11.360 but you do you let people right? Right? Okay? Absolutely? 1:45:11.439 --> 1:45:14.120 Why does that so accepted an R and B world? 1:45:16.640 --> 1:45:19.760 I don't know why it's not. I think rapping is 1:45:19.840 --> 1:45:22.160 like here. First of all, I used to wrap. Everybody 1:45:22.200 --> 1:45:25.040 hates when I go into my MC hurricane upping a little. 1:45:25.120 --> 1:45:27.320 I'm gonna going to my m C Hurricane days that 1:45:27.400 --> 1:45:29.040 means you still wrap. Let's go. I'll start it off. 1:45:29.080 --> 1:45:31.680 It's a wrapper. I'm not gonna do it. I do it. 1:45:33.160 --> 1:45:36.240 I'll tell your freestyle fas, that's not what I want 1:45:36.240 --> 1:45:39.320 to go back. Just stop what I want to go back. 1:45:39.360 --> 1:45:43.040 You have the berct name for this city, Hurricane, But 1:45:43.120 --> 1:45:44.920 I can tell you I don't want to hate your 1:45:46.439 --> 1:45:50.840 I'm already I was Hurricane. Used to when I was 1:45:50.880 --> 1:45:53.839 a kid, I would go around the hood rapping against 1:45:53.880 --> 1:45:55.519 the you know, vice lords and the g d s, 1:45:56.000 --> 1:45:58.560 and I would I would. I would in d C 1:45:59.000 --> 1:46:05.120 No in mil Walk, Wisconsin, right war in Milwaukee, Klwaukee, Wisconsin. Yeah, Wisconsin. 1:46:05.280 --> 1:46:07.519 So I used to go around the hood in battle 1:46:07.960 --> 1:46:10.599 real gangsters with my wraps. I a rap called Rated 1:46:10.760 --> 1:46:14.000 R that used to kill everything. How did rad a go? 1:46:14.439 --> 1:46:20.560 I'm not doing it with just you. Just just freestyles 1:46:20.640 --> 1:46:28.320 horribly on the drake. Spell it will be so you 1:46:28.439 --> 1:46:32.080 know where were we going? We was used about the 1:46:32.080 --> 1:46:42.680 freestyle Hark was coming. I'm a rapper first, then I'm 1:46:42.720 --> 1:46:46.679 a R and B saying that is crazy. Most people 1:46:46.720 --> 1:46:49.240 don't know that. But I'm not telling everybody. Okay, you 1:46:49.280 --> 1:46:51.840 ain't gonna tell you. I'm not freestyling. Let's never let's 1:46:51.880 --> 1:46:53.080 get out of this, Let's go to the next let's 1:46:53.080 --> 1:46:56.960 go to the ness. Okay, why did you call it 1:46:57.120 --> 1:47:03.720 maybe I deserve, because, by the way, for years, I 1:47:03.880 --> 1:47:07.479 call it baby, I deserve. I was fucked up today 1:47:07.520 --> 1:47:10.840 when I realized it's baby, I was like, oh, I'm 1:47:10.880 --> 1:47:14.160 just thinking this sh it wrong for years because because 1:47:14.200 --> 1:47:18.160 you were living in the affirmative, I think you're picking 1:47:18.200 --> 1:47:20.559 me up. I'm not sure, but I think you're me up, 1:47:21.600 --> 1:47:28.200 just taking Yeah, I'm just taking that's big up. I'm sorry. 1:47:29.160 --> 1:47:39.040 I'm sorry. I think it's having fun. It's your fun's 1:47:39.080 --> 1:47:49.400 interview you have. Let's go read wrong as well. Okay, 1:47:49.680 --> 1:47:53.599 I'm gonna take me another show. I'm just gonna get 1:47:53.600 --> 1:47:58.120 me ready. Okay, you're living in the affirmative, right, which 1:47:58.160 --> 1:48:01.400 means you're sure that things, these things should happen, And 1:48:01.560 --> 1:48:06.120 I was living in the speculative space, where isn't maybe 1:48:07.600 --> 1:48:12.000 maybe you should do that. I wouldn't advise it, but 1:48:12.160 --> 1:48:15.960 if so, maybe if it did happen in some way, 1:48:16.040 --> 1:48:19.760 shape or form, I could accept it because of all 1:48:19.840 --> 1:48:25.400 the things that I've done. Maybe leaves a lot of 1:48:25.560 --> 1:48:30.640 room right for for men. We need room. We need 1:48:30.720 --> 1:48:34.240 room to change our minds. We need room to be assholes. 1:48:34.479 --> 1:48:38.920 We need room. So when she does it and she says, well, 1:48:39.000 --> 1:48:44.840 you said that, do you deserve saying maybe maybe get 1:48:44.920 --> 1:48:48.920 your ass out of here? Because I hadn't decided definitively 1:48:50.120 --> 1:48:53.840 if I was okay with that, I have thought about it. 1:48:55.240 --> 1:48:59.880 Hence them Maybe this nick is getting deep. I write 1:49:00.439 --> 1:49:04.519 songs for a living. Maybe it's a hell of a word. 1:49:05.320 --> 1:49:08.320 I'm not giving you permission. I'm just saying there's a 1:49:08.439 --> 1:49:13.880 chance I might forgive you and excuses now in real life, 1:49:14.120 --> 1:49:17.680 because in a song, you're saying that you deserve she 1:49:18.240 --> 1:49:21.479 getting you back. Correct to wonder who's calling so damn 1:49:21.560 --> 1:49:23.800 late for you to say I'm tripping just to hold 1:49:23.840 --> 1:49:26.640 me from upstate? Don't he know it's one o'clock in 1:49:26.720 --> 1:49:29.800 the morning. You say it's cool. Maybe it's cool. Maybe 1:49:29.840 --> 1:49:32.439 I deserve for you to say he's coming into town, 1:49:33.920 --> 1:49:35.280 for you to say that he wants you and him 1:49:35.320 --> 1:49:38.960 to hang out. I don't like it, but I know 1:49:39.080 --> 1:49:42.519 I gotta trust you. It ain't cool, but I know 1:49:42.680 --> 1:49:45.559 it's true. Maybe I'll deserve for you to go out 1:49:45.600 --> 1:49:48.280 and find some other guy. Maybe I'll deserve for you 1:49:48.400 --> 1:49:51.120 to stay out with him all night. Maybe I deserve 1:49:51.320 --> 1:49:53.640 for you to do all the things I did to you. 1:49:54.560 --> 1:49:59.080 Maybe I deserve maybe for you to put on that 1:49:59.240 --> 1:50:02.120 sexy dress, for me to ask you, who the hell 1:50:02.160 --> 1:50:06.439 are you trying to impress? Bitch, for you to laugh 1:50:06.520 --> 1:50:09.320 at all like that. I'm just splitting on some cool shit. 1:50:13.960 --> 1:50:18.760 What did you deserve? For me to ask you where 1:50:18.800 --> 1:50:21.719 the funk you've been? For you to say, I'd better 1:50:21.800 --> 1:50:28.639 stop tripping to grab your neck until you let me know. Yeah, 1:50:31.120 --> 1:50:37.439 that's the part that flew way under the radar, so 1:50:37.720 --> 1:50:44.680 happy under the You don't run crying, crying out the 1:50:44.800 --> 1:50:48.240 door to grab my coat and chase you down the street, 1:50:48.640 --> 1:50:51.320 to say it's not you, it's my own securities. For 1:50:51.439 --> 1:50:54.320 you to say, yes, I cheat on you, For me 1:50:54.439 --> 1:50:57.120 to say I don't care after all I put you through, 1:50:57.280 --> 1:51:01.920 Maybe I deserve well, was listening to this song. I 1:51:01.960 --> 1:51:07.439 couldn't help it. I can't have said that we're gonna 1:51:07.439 --> 1:51:11.120 suck me up. You've got the reach of the side 1:51:11.160 --> 1:51:19.800 that and that's maybe maybe you did you deserve it. Maybe, 1:51:20.920 --> 1:51:25.200 thank you, thank you, I've accepted my faith in a 1:51:25.240 --> 1:51:28.920 few situations. Let me ask you, because like, when I'm 1:51:28.960 --> 1:51:32.439 listening to your songs, I couldn't. I was like, I'm 1:51:32.520 --> 1:51:36.880 listening like this, I've been through some ship, everything is 1:51:39.600 --> 1:51:42.800 you're going through it, been through it, been through it, 1:51:43.920 --> 1:51:49.960 and once maybe I deserve worked. It led me to 1:51:50.080 --> 1:51:54.519 believe that everything about my real life will will work 1:51:54.600 --> 1:51:58.799 from this point on. So I never wrote from fantasy 1:51:58.920 --> 1:52:03.080 or fallacy. I always wrote from fact. And you worked 1:52:03.080 --> 1:52:07.160 with Beyonce too, right, No, I worked with Kelly Okay 1:52:08.240 --> 1:52:14.920 fire and working with Kelly Rowland, she's dope. You have 1:52:15.120 --> 1:52:20.040 no idea. I had no idea, she says, a great 1:52:20.120 --> 1:52:23.400 person though she's done. It's one of the best of us. Her, 1:52:24.360 --> 1:52:26.960 one of the best of us. Him too, Yes, yes, yes, 1:52:27.280 --> 1:52:29.400 both of them as are just amazing people. I work 1:52:29.479 --> 1:52:32.519 with Kelly Rowland, and I was completely throwing the funk 1:52:32.560 --> 1:52:36.840 off because well, we always know, we always want to 1:52:36.840 --> 1:52:42.960 give the credit to Beyonce. Who is Beyonce? Yeah, the 1:52:43.080 --> 1:52:45.920 greatest of all times? Right? We always want to notice 1:52:45.960 --> 1:52:48.320 what you said about bust the rhymes. You said busting 1:52:48.360 --> 1:52:51.759 rhymes and swift Star on stage. That's what you just said, 1:52:51.880 --> 1:52:57.000 bust the rhymes, bust the rhymes is that's that's what 1:52:57.120 --> 1:53:02.840 I'm like. Yes, Kelly Roland is by far one of 1:53:02.920 --> 1:53:06.719 the most talented females I've ever worked with in my life, 1:53:08.400 --> 1:53:13.559 by far. And I'm sitting in the studio like, hear 1:53:13.640 --> 1:53:16.280 these harmonies? You hear? Do you hear her? Do you 1:53:16.360 --> 1:53:19.920 hear the text? Do you hear her? Her change? And 1:53:20.560 --> 1:53:25.000 do you hear are hearing this? I never knew because 1:53:25.040 --> 1:53:27.640 I gave all the credit to Beyonce. That's how the 1:53:27.760 --> 1:53:32.879 business of Destiny's Child was set up to a door Beyonce. 1:53:34.280 --> 1:53:36.639 And then I finally got in the ring with Kelly 1:53:36.800 --> 1:53:41.960 Rowland and realized that while while Beyonce is in the booth, 1:53:42.320 --> 1:53:46.040 there's a Kelly Rowland saying, oh try this. Oh, and 1:53:46.160 --> 1:53:51.040 this notice is crazy. Oh, and there's and we never knew. 1:53:52.720 --> 1:53:58.360 She's amazing fire And I thank her to this thing 1:53:58.439 --> 1:54:01.160 for those two records. God damn make some looks for 1:54:01.240 --> 1:54:06.960 that I keep. I'm keeping the real tank. I just 1:54:07.000 --> 1:54:11.080 gotta shop. Yeah, I ain't a lot. You're a real drinker, though, 1:54:11.120 --> 1:54:13.519 are you kidding? Yeah? I don't know what I'm gonna 1:54:13.520 --> 1:54:14.840 do for the rest of the day. But by the way, 1:54:15.240 --> 1:54:17.960 by the way, sol i've seen you. Let me just 1:54:18.080 --> 1:54:22.720 tell you how real Tank is. Maybe you'll hang out 1:54:22.840 --> 1:54:28.360 for maybe I'm to take it l A. It wasn't 1:54:28.360 --> 1:54:31.640 on the flight. No, it's in front. What I'm not 1:54:31.680 --> 1:54:33.480 gonna say because I love this hotel and I don't 1:54:33.520 --> 1:54:37.080 want to blow it up because I'm gonna be there, 1:54:38.760 --> 1:54:41.640 so you're not going back. You blow it up. So 1:54:41.960 --> 1:54:45.600 I see him, I'm like, yo, super down the Earth 1:54:45.640 --> 1:54:47.720 and I'm not gonna tank. I don't know if you 1:54:47.800 --> 1:54:49.720 know what you're I gotta show God dream jamps And 1:54:49.800 --> 1:54:53.560 he's like, of course I know, asshole, Why would you 1:54:53.600 --> 1:54:55.920 say that. I was like, think what you're doing? He 1:54:56.000 --> 1:54:59.720 said absolutely, And you kept your word from that minute 1:55:00.040 --> 1:55:02.560 on you said no, but listen to hear me out. 1:55:05.200 --> 1:55:08.160 It's so beautiful when when when I see people keep 1:55:08.200 --> 1:55:12.840 their word everything, but because you know what's crazy. I'm 1:55:12.880 --> 1:55:16.880 so used to the fakeness, too used to words and 1:55:17.000 --> 1:55:19.080 just seeing me and saying, hey, they just say what 1:55:19.160 --> 1:55:23.280 they say. Because so when I meet a word one, 1:55:23.680 --> 1:55:26.160 I gotta I gotta salute you like I gotta salute 1:55:26.160 --> 1:55:28.880 you because you said, what motherfucker, I pull up on you. 1:55:29.080 --> 1:55:32.000 I'll come right with Miami, no problem, and everything you 1:55:32.160 --> 1:55:36.680 said you've done. I'm a victim of people not keeping 1:55:36.760 --> 1:55:40.280 their word. Me too, so I know how it's you know, yes, 1:55:40.360 --> 1:55:44.040 that's okay, and I never want anybody to feel that 1:55:44.200 --> 1:55:48.520 way about me. I've fallen short. I'm not perfect. Of course, 1:55:48.760 --> 1:55:51.720 I'll miss some deadlines. Absolutely, But if you ever see 1:55:51.800 --> 1:55:53.960 me and say, like I called you, you were supposed 1:55:53.960 --> 1:55:58.720 to say my apologies, I got you different, right, I'll 1:55:58.760 --> 1:56:01.000 take care of that. That's where I like to live. 1:56:01.720 --> 1:56:04.520 So when you say, first of all you say Drake Champs, 1:56:05.520 --> 1:56:07.000 first of all, I don't think you know what? Then 1:56:07.120 --> 1:56:14.120 that means first of all, what do brother? By the way, 1:56:14.200 --> 1:56:17.800 let's just tell you something day, I'm gonna let you talk. Okay, 1:56:18.080 --> 1:56:22.880 where in this prestige this hotel? And I say you 1:56:22.920 --> 1:56:26.920 know his hand? And the god comes walking out with 1:56:27.120 --> 1:56:31.600 a moving box full of weed. It says, would you 1:56:31.760 --> 1:56:34.800 like some of this? Where in the funk do you 1:56:34.960 --> 1:56:38.920 think I'm already putting hand full of weeds? Would you 1:56:39.040 --> 1:56:49.680 like something? Why do you have? Where are the bags 1:56:51.360 --> 1:56:53.320 I put this? I'm gonna take you allgine you got 1:56:53.440 --> 1:56:56.600 you got cheat you with respect, No, I respect. I'm 1:56:56.680 --> 1:57:01.480 just concerned that was so much of weed I've never 1:57:01.560 --> 1:57:04.480 seen that much of weed in the box, and you 1:57:04.560 --> 1:57:10.160 were gracious me. I don't smoke. I drink a little. Yes, 1:57:11.120 --> 1:57:19.400 we take no But I'm gonna be honest with you. 1:57:20.000 --> 1:57:22.920 I'm gonna tell you something. You have one of the 1:57:23.040 --> 1:57:28.440 best souls I've ever seen. Like I promise you. You 1:57:29.240 --> 1:57:32.160 know you said you came out since ninety eight. You 1:57:32.240 --> 1:57:34.800 know we've seen each other. We've always showed each other respect, 1:57:35.680 --> 1:57:39.560 you know, but I've never kind of saw you mad. 1:57:41.840 --> 1:57:44.680 I know you get mad, don't get it twisted. But 1:57:45.720 --> 1:57:50.680 other than you and tires, that's the only one who 1:57:50.840 --> 1:57:53.320 gets you mad. I was no. I wasn't mad when 1:57:53.440 --> 1:57:55.560 when you know, when a guy was holding seven hundred 1:57:55.560 --> 1:57:58.200 thousand Okay, so that's where I but that wasn't public. 1:57:58.600 --> 1:58:00.960 That's where that's where I went. You know, I went different, 1:58:01.600 --> 1:58:03.480 and I turned into a guy that I didn't I 1:58:03.520 --> 1:58:07.880 shouldn't have been, and I and I and I I 1:58:07.960 --> 1:58:10.360 suffered because of that. I set from two thousand two 1:58:10.400 --> 1:58:13.880 to two thousand seven, because you know, I told a 1:58:13.920 --> 1:58:16.880 guy listened before before any of those guys, you know, 1:58:17.240 --> 1:58:19.600 we'll get to your house to protect you. I'll get 1:58:19.640 --> 1:58:26.720 there before them. Now, let's work. I've been in that place. 1:58:27.640 --> 1:58:30.920 You know what I'm saying. But I really loved this ship, 1:58:31.240 --> 1:58:39.760 nor you really love the music. I really love making music. Listen, 1:58:41.240 --> 1:58:43.440 I was doing this for a hundred and fifty dollars 1:58:43.520 --> 1:58:48.040 a week. I was doing it for a hundred and 1:58:48.120 --> 1:58:52.480 fifty dollars a week, and I was happy. I got 1:58:52.520 --> 1:58:57.240 close to six figures a show. Are you kidding me 1:58:57.520 --> 1:59:03.920 to sing? Yes, sir, having the time of my life? 1:59:04.720 --> 1:59:10.960 I'm having the time of my What you need? No? No, no, no, no, no, 1:59:11.200 --> 1:59:13.040 keep going. You keep blowing that smoke. I don't know 1:59:13.040 --> 1:59:17.280 what's happening to me. I don't smoke. Well, you didn't 1:59:17.280 --> 1:59:26.960 take smoking. I genuinely, I genuinely enjoy R and B 1:59:27.120 --> 1:59:31.640 music and everybody doing it. I genuinely even Young Blue 1:59:33.160 --> 1:59:37.680 new guy. What's he saying again? What the song would 1:59:37.760 --> 1:59:48.440 right if I ever time? Is because we had a 1:59:48.520 --> 1:59:53.320 we had a thing online. What happened I forgot okay, 1:59:53.760 --> 1:59:56.200 I only google the positive part of you. I didn't 1:59:56.640 --> 2:00:00.440 appreciate you for that, I thought, But you got to it, 2:00:02.480 --> 2:00:04.760 says A guy says, I think that Young Blue might 2:00:04.800 --> 2:00:07.440 be the new king of R and by well, one 2:00:07.520 --> 2:00:13.560 record to okay, my back, and I said, I'm so 2:00:13.760 --> 2:00:16.680 glad I was born in a different generation, because this 2:00:16.880 --> 2:00:22.160 generation is wild in terms of how they throw out calculates. 2:00:22.360 --> 2:00:27.680 King and Queen got go Not any disrespect to him, 2:00:27.960 --> 2:00:30.680 no disrespect for him at all at all. But do 2:00:30.880 --> 2:00:32.680 you know what goat? And what do you know? What? 2:00:36.320 --> 2:00:37.680 Do you know what that means? You know what it 2:00:37.960 --> 2:00:42.040 means to have a guy like jay Z, have a 2:00:42.080 --> 2:00:45.200 guy like nas Drake, to have a guy, to have people, 2:00:45.400 --> 2:00:49.840 to have a Chris Brown, r Kelly, to have these 2:00:49.920 --> 2:00:56.400 guys who have to have guys who have had another name. 2:00:56.480 --> 2:00:59.200 To that that, I have to add baby Face. You've 2:00:59.200 --> 2:01:02.600 been skipping baby Face all night. Let me not baby Face, 2:01:02.640 --> 2:01:05.000 because he's the guy who I really want to be 2:01:05.800 --> 2:01:09.400 Slash Keith Sweat. We'll get to all of that. I 2:01:09.440 --> 2:01:12.480 don't think baby Face ever raised his voice. Doesn't have to. 2:01:12.720 --> 2:01:16.160 I don't think he's yelled in his life. Doesn't have to. Ye, 2:01:16.880 --> 2:01:19.160 I don't know why he says, I give the love. 2:01:19.680 --> 2:01:22.200 I'll cook your dinner too as soon as I get 2:01:22.280 --> 2:01:28.000 home from work. This motherfucker worked eight hours, came home, 2:01:28.640 --> 2:01:31.720 fuck the ship out of him, and then cook dinner. 2:01:32.040 --> 2:01:34.880 That's what he just said. That's what he said after 2:01:35.000 --> 2:01:38.480 he got home from work eight hour shift, hard body, 2:01:38.600 --> 2:01:42.440 karate who you want to be? Who you want to be? 2:01:45.960 --> 2:01:53.200 Where were we going? But the tweet came out and 2:01:53.760 --> 2:01:57.080 he felt a way like as if I was disrespecting him. Right. 2:01:58.120 --> 2:02:00.600 I don't think he realizes that I'm a fan of 2:02:00.760 --> 2:02:05.600 him because I only liked that song and I only 2:02:05.680 --> 2:02:10.840 want the younger generation two fight for their space and 2:02:11.120 --> 2:02:15.600 earned their space, versus just throw around to take it 2:02:16.880 --> 2:02:21.600 like you can't you can't take king or go. You 2:02:21.680 --> 2:02:28.280 can't take that. You have to earn that. But I 2:02:28.440 --> 2:02:32.800 do understand why he felt that way because but he 2:02:32.920 --> 2:02:37.520 didn't say he's the goat. No, he didn't say it them. 2:02:38.320 --> 2:02:41.240 But what happened to We're back to that straw breaking 2:02:41.320 --> 2:02:43.720 the camel's back. And this is what I noticed in 2:02:43.920 --> 2:02:48.080 some of what he said in his response. People have 2:02:48.360 --> 2:02:53.960 been people have been taken away from his creativity and 2:02:54.160 --> 2:02:58.240 diminishing his ability to do what he does since he started. 2:02:58.760 --> 2:03:02.680 It wasn't about me, m hmm. I was just the 2:03:02.800 --> 2:03:07.160 person that came at the right time that you're CHRISTI 2:03:07.360 --> 2:03:11.400 where he was Chris Rock, did we go there? I 2:03:11.440 --> 2:03:18.640 mean I was Christal I was. I was My voice 2:03:18.760 --> 2:03:21.680 was too much at that time. Had it been anybody 2:03:21.720 --> 2:03:24.200 else but Chris Rock, I don't think Will would have 2:03:24.200 --> 2:03:27.840 walked on that stage. But it's Chris Rock. It's too big, 2:03:27.920 --> 2:03:31.680 it's too powerful. I have to address this. So I 2:03:31.840 --> 2:03:34.560 understand why Young Blue had to address it the way 2:03:34.640 --> 2:03:37.280 he did. And I even text him before he even 2:03:37.320 --> 2:03:39.920 tweeted anything. I said, Si, bro, it's not what you 2:03:40.040 --> 2:03:43.400 think it is. I rock with you. And he's still 2:03:44.440 --> 2:03:48.280 made some more posts, which I think was probably encouraged 2:03:49.120 --> 2:03:51.200 by some other people because he's a good kid. He's 2:03:51.240 --> 2:03:53.640 not a bad kid at all. So what actually happened 2:03:54.760 --> 2:03:57.520 this was over my head. I just didn't want I 2:03:57.600 --> 2:03:59.760 don't like me and John Queens went through this. Who's 2:03:59.800 --> 2:04:02.920 my brother, my little brother, and I love Jack Quiss. 2:04:03.920 --> 2:04:05.760 He is the king of R and B two. I 2:04:05.920 --> 2:04:08.120 love Jack Quis. He could say whatever he want to say, 2:04:08.320 --> 2:04:11.040 and I'm a support him period. I don't care what 2:04:11.120 --> 2:04:14.960 he says. That's my little nigga, right. And somebody was 2:04:15.400 --> 2:04:17.440 somebody was calling somebody else was saying he's the king 2:04:17.560 --> 2:04:19.720 or he's the way I said, you and not the king. 2:04:19.880 --> 2:04:23.240 You ain't put enough work yet how do you pass 2:04:23.320 --> 2:04:25.880 Chris Brown just all of a sudden because and he 2:04:26.000 --> 2:04:29.960 said it's this generation, it's not a generational thing. I 2:04:30.080 --> 2:04:34.040 think he's right. Let me just tell you why what 2:04:34.480 --> 2:04:39.160 this generation calls goat and king is only different. You 2:04:39.240 --> 2:04:42.800 gotta say what you're saying, right, So what's right about that? No, 2:04:42.960 --> 2:04:46.600 that's not right. You can see the point. I can 2:04:46.640 --> 2:04:48.840 see you know what I'm saying, because I can see 2:04:48.880 --> 2:04:51.960 them saying he is the most revered in that space 2:04:52.160 --> 2:04:54.520 at the moment, because you know what I think, because 2:04:54.560 --> 2:04:57.960 everything nowadays is at the moment in the social media 2:04:58.880 --> 2:05:05.680 come from we come from we come from pain, dudes different, 2:05:05.760 --> 2:05:08.760 it's different now. And me and Jocquis is my that's 2:05:08.800 --> 2:05:11.040 my family. I know his mom that that's the family. Like. 2:05:11.160 --> 2:05:13.680 So we talked it out. We were able to talk 2:05:13.720 --> 2:05:16.160 about and like, I love beautiful, I love you bro, 2:05:16.920 --> 2:05:18.840 and we mean Young Blue, we're taking a shot to that. 2:05:18.960 --> 2:05:22.880 I feel like it's take a shot that we just 2:05:23.000 --> 2:05:24.240 you know, I'll just take a shot and get a 2:05:24.240 --> 2:05:25.760 little shot with you. Yeah, come on, let's go on. 2:05:25.800 --> 2:05:30.240 Let's go. Yes to R and B niggas not having me. 2:05:32.120 --> 2:05:34.320 So me and Young Blue haven't been able to talk 2:05:34.400 --> 2:05:36.920 that out yet, which I which I hope to do. Yeah, 2:05:36.920 --> 2:05:39.760 your RB niggas gotta stop. But but no, no, he 2:05:39.920 --> 2:05:42.200 just wanted. He just won an award for Best Hip 2:05:42.240 --> 2:05:49.800 Hop New Artists. Wow, which validates my point. Now what 2:05:50.040 --> 2:05:58.040 was your point? He's not the King of Army's not 2:05:58.120 --> 2:06:00.200 the new king of R and B. I love him. 2:06:00.920 --> 2:06:05.280 I love his work. I buy his work, which which 2:06:05.360 --> 2:06:07.560 even goes even further. So you feel like he's more 2:06:07.600 --> 2:06:10.640 of a rapper. I feel like he's a hybrid. He's 2:06:10.680 --> 2:06:21.160 the he's the evolution. He's not. I think he's he's 2:06:21.200 --> 2:06:24.360 a hybrid. He's a new evolution of of everything that 2:06:24.480 --> 2:06:28.400 we've that we've done, and there is no category for him. 2:06:29.280 --> 2:06:31.720 There's no category at the Grammys or the Soul Trained 2:06:31.840 --> 2:06:35.080 or at the BT. They haven't created the category that 2:06:35.680 --> 2:06:39.320 that that speaks to what he and so many of 2:06:39.400 --> 2:06:45.680 these new artists do. They do everything. So while I'm 2:06:45.800 --> 2:06:51.920 celebrating him, which he doesn't realize because he's catching so 2:06:52.080 --> 2:06:57.080 much flak from whatever side. My straw was the straw 2:06:57.160 --> 2:06:59.080 that broke the camel's back and he felt the need 2:06:59.160 --> 2:07:02.480 to come at me. So you feel like because a 2:07:02.560 --> 2:07:04.440 lot of the times in hip hop, we go through 2:07:04.480 --> 2:07:08.800 this a lot um. First, I'm so happy to be here. 2:07:09.280 --> 2:07:15.560 Thank you for appreciate when I say that. But the 2:07:15.720 --> 2:07:18.120 hip hop there's so many stories of O G s 2:07:18.200 --> 2:07:22.720 not really accepting the young people. Are you thinking this? 2:07:23.040 --> 2:07:26.320 Is that the way it came off? I hit him. 2:07:27.280 --> 2:07:30.640 Here's how it started. Okay, First we he connected slightly. 2:07:30.960 --> 2:07:33.120 And then where at our R and B money runs, 2:07:33.160 --> 2:07:36.000 my bro j J runts and he comes over to 2:07:36.080 --> 2:07:40.360 me and said, O G, let's get something. Let's get something, okay. 2:07:40.440 --> 2:07:43.080 And so I said, I got the perfect record, and 2:07:43.160 --> 2:07:45.600 I'm like, he said, send it to me. I sent 2:07:45.680 --> 2:07:48.520 it to him, and I'm like, what you think because 2:07:49.360 --> 2:07:51.920 I'm open for criticism if you ain't working with it. 2:07:52.520 --> 2:07:56.200 I sent Drake three records before he said, that's the one, right, 2:07:56.640 --> 2:07:59.520 you ain't working with it. I'm I got tough skin 2:08:00.040 --> 2:08:05.040 me that game too. By the way, keep going, keeping 2:08:05.880 --> 2:08:12.240 so fantastic because I love it. So at any point 2:08:12.240 --> 2:08:14.480 you couldn't said, oh gee, that's not the one, send 2:08:14.560 --> 2:08:18.760 me something else. Okay. He never did that. Hit him again, 2:08:19.080 --> 2:08:23.360 talk to me baby, nothing. At this point, I'm like, 2:08:23.800 --> 2:08:26.880 got it, and I text him back. I'm like, listen, bro, 2:08:27.240 --> 2:08:30.200 in this business, you've got two things. Your gift in 2:08:30.280 --> 2:08:35.720 your word honorable. At any point you can tell me O, 2:08:35.960 --> 2:08:38.720 g I ain't feeling it, or I ain't even fucking 2:08:38.760 --> 2:08:41.640 with you right now, give me a second. Good luck. 2:08:42.200 --> 2:08:45.360 I can take all of that, but the radio silence, 2:08:46.160 --> 2:08:49.760 that's the Hollywood ship, which I'm like, don't do that. 2:08:50.000 --> 2:08:53.240 And we all been through that very easy, and I'm 2:08:53.280 --> 2:08:55.000 telling him not to do that because I just know 2:08:55.120 --> 2:08:57.600 what it is, and and you would, you being the 2:08:57.680 --> 2:09:03.040 elder artist, you know exactly. I know exactly what that means. 2:09:03.200 --> 2:09:06.280 You don't, And I'm telling him with me, you don't 2:09:06.320 --> 2:09:08.640 have to do that. I said, but in the future, 2:09:08.960 --> 2:09:12.520 just make your word your bond. If you fucking still 2:09:12.640 --> 2:09:17.280 and if not, say so, it's gonna get you so 2:09:17.600 --> 2:09:21.800 far in this business. And so that was my only 2:09:22.480 --> 2:09:24.840 message to him, not that I'm mad at you for 2:09:24.960 --> 2:09:28.240 not getting on my record, because well, but people again 2:09:28.320 --> 2:09:31.240 don't understand, is that I don't need people on my record. 2:09:31.840 --> 2:09:35.080 I'm a hundred percenter. My last two number ones were 2:09:35.200 --> 2:09:41.040 me a hundred percent written produced saying it's me, It's me. 2:09:41.120 --> 2:09:45.360 I don't need anybody, but I love collaborating. That's fire. 2:09:45.720 --> 2:09:49.160 I love going to to to Chris Brown studio and 2:09:49.280 --> 2:09:52.000 hearing a hundred songs in a row and being like 2:09:52.120 --> 2:09:56.440 this nigga is cold shit. I gotta get there like. 2:09:56.640 --> 2:10:03.840 I love that. But the respect from elder to the 2:10:03.920 --> 2:10:09.480 new generation there there is a divide, and we gotta 2:10:09.560 --> 2:10:12.600 figure out how to fix that, because I only want 2:10:12.680 --> 2:10:16.160 what's the best for the new generation. You know what 2:10:16.200 --> 2:10:19.520 I'm saying, whether it be money long, whether it be 2:10:20.360 --> 2:10:23.400 whoever it is, whether it be Jock Quins, whether there's 2:10:23.480 --> 2:10:26.520 power in numbers. I understand you want to go out 2:10:26.560 --> 2:10:32.840 on tour by yourself and build your heart ticket, you know, 2:10:33.360 --> 2:10:40.760 build your heart screen necessary five six R and B 2:10:40.920 --> 2:10:47.360 as on one tour. It's necessary. Of course. I'm a 2:10:47.480 --> 2:10:53.200 close two years in. If you want to close, I'll 2:10:53.240 --> 2:10:54.680 let you. I'll let you try it for at night. 2:10:55.320 --> 2:10:57.400 But it's gonna be heavy. Once I take these clothes off, 2:10:57.560 --> 2:11:04.120 it's gonna get different. But I'm always preaching numbers because 2:11:04.200 --> 2:11:07.040 that's how you guys did it. You guys did it 2:11:07.120 --> 2:11:09.840 with numbers, because guess what you would do. You would 2:11:09.880 --> 2:11:12.480 get in the room, you would smoke that fucking weed. 2:11:13.400 --> 2:11:16.800 It's legal. I got a medical card on, you would 2:11:16.800 --> 2:11:21.440 smoke that medicinal weed, you would drink that liquor, and 2:11:21.600 --> 2:11:27.080 you would come to an agreement. We don't have weed 2:11:27.280 --> 2:11:31.120 and liquor in common. R and B guys only have 2:11:31.360 --> 2:11:34.800 women in common, and we're always trying to be one up. 2:11:36.240 --> 2:11:38.840 So let me ask you how long you've been married? 2:11:39.920 --> 2:11:44.560 Three years? Okay, so I'm not talking about this. You 2:11:44.600 --> 2:11:50.080 can talk whatever I'm talk about. When you use a home. Okay, 2:11:52.920 --> 2:12:00.320 let him talk talk because I need to imagine the 2:12:00.440 --> 2:12:05.320 difference between R and B bussy, bussy or pussy. He 2:12:07.040 --> 2:12:13.040 just buzzy, he said, Pete, it's a pee because dank, 2:12:13.120 --> 2:12:16.880 I could just imagine how the tours was when you 2:12:16.960 --> 2:12:19.000 were single. Obviously, because we want to respect wife. I 2:12:19.080 --> 2:12:20.440 got my wing on, you got your ring on. We 2:12:20.520 --> 2:12:24.760 both out spide, but we had life before the life 2:12:24.840 --> 2:12:27.000 absolutely that we love right now, because they're the like 2:12:27.120 --> 2:12:29.320 we love. We want to be married. I'm staying married. 2:12:29.360 --> 2:12:31.360 I want to stay man. You're staying marry I got. 2:12:31.960 --> 2:12:34.960 I'm not giving her half of anything. Holy ship. I 2:12:34.960 --> 2:12:49.240 don't know how to take that. Those ship stop nigger. Yeah, 2:12:49.760 --> 2:12:55.640 me and you were clearly, but when you were before 2:12:55.720 --> 2:12:59.440 you met her. I don't know how it feels to 2:12:59.520 --> 2:13:02.360 have the number. Want R and B record and be 2:13:02.560 --> 2:13:11.120 outside finger popping everything? If how was it? Everything? He said, 2:13:12.600 --> 2:13:16.160 it's different. Let me let me just coming to my concert. 2:13:16.280 --> 2:13:21.320 Let me give me to Mattis like, wait a minute, 2:13:26.400 --> 2:13:34.480 it's been Let me help you going to do me 2:13:34.560 --> 2:13:39.480 a shot? Get your together. I need to hear this 2:13:39.640 --> 2:13:42.600 thing because I need to know and be as different 2:13:43.200 --> 2:13:49.920 you're different. Before I get to a city, I'll equated to. 2:13:50.000 --> 2:13:51.480 Now I do the numbers. For now. There are three 2:13:51.560 --> 2:13:56.040 to five there's three to five thousand women who are 2:13:56.160 --> 2:14:01.280 preparing themselves for tank to come in town. They got 2:14:01.360 --> 2:14:07.720 they got their wave caps. Maybe DA's Greece. Maybe you 2:14:07.800 --> 2:14:10.720 know when they're getting their nails done. They know when 2:14:10.800 --> 2:14:14.280 they're getting their hair done. The y'all fit has been purchased, 2:14:16.160 --> 2:14:23.520 The nails have been manicured and pedicured. The monkey has 2:14:23.600 --> 2:14:28.200 been either is either hairless or has a landing strip. 2:14:29.120 --> 2:14:33.280 Landing strip. Not because I'm gonna get to him, just 2:14:33.520 --> 2:14:37.240 because I'm into preparation for it all. They could get 2:14:37.400 --> 2:14:41.400 lucky with anybody. Don't got to beat me. But R 2:14:41.480 --> 2:14:44.720 and B dictates that at some point you're gonna get 2:14:44.800 --> 2:14:51.120 touched up. I'm trying to hold back my clap now 2:14:52.080 --> 2:14:56.520 imagined that all of that energy is really for me. 2:14:59.800 --> 2:15:06.720 I can pick, choose, and decide as I desire. Everybody 2:15:06.760 --> 2:15:11.160 else can deal with the rest. But a woman is hoping, 2:15:12.480 --> 2:15:22.280 she's been waiting to waiting and hoping to be chosen, 2:15:23.360 --> 2:15:25.800 because it only works if they choose. You know that, right. 2:15:27.480 --> 2:15:29.520 We can talk all the ship. We won't until a 2:15:29.600 --> 2:15:33.640 woman says it is so it don't happen. Are We're 2:15:33.680 --> 2:15:36.120 taking a shot to that real correct? But keep going 2:15:36.200 --> 2:15:45.400 with your patience. Mm hmm. That is what I walk into. 2:15:46.840 --> 2:15:51.160 I walk into a woman being the best she can 2:15:51.240 --> 2:15:57.360 be on that particular night, just because I'm in town. 2:15:59.200 --> 2:16:04.720 How do you not partect? And she chose you? She 2:16:05.080 --> 2:16:12.960 chose you. M I come from the house of Genuine, who, 2:16:13.040 --> 2:16:17.600 first of all, was the ultimate light skin and he 2:16:17.680 --> 2:16:21.480 had good hair. You ain't gonna beat him on stage, 2:16:22.600 --> 2:16:24.880 and you can't beat him up in real life because 2:16:24.920 --> 2:16:27.760 he will beat your motherfucking asks. For some reason, I 2:16:27.840 --> 2:16:29.400 think Gene want to know how to fight. I feel 2:16:29.480 --> 2:16:35.080 Genuine watches boxing from sun up to sundown. She always 2:16:35.120 --> 2:16:40.720 knew beat it your motherfucking asks if you think it's 2:16:40.720 --> 2:16:47.840 sweet right now, That's who I learned from. So I 2:16:47.879 --> 2:16:53.080 don't want I don't want every woman in my days, 2:16:54.200 --> 2:17:02.400 I wanted the right one. I discernment is as a gift, right. 2:17:02.760 --> 2:17:04.480 You don't gotta have every watch, you gotta have to 2:17:04.520 --> 2:17:08.640 write watch watch. I don't want every It's not even 2:17:08.760 --> 2:17:13.320 my thing. I've had threesome, spot some fives and got it. 2:17:14.440 --> 2:17:21.400 That ain't he would have kept going something and that 2:17:21.520 --> 2:17:25.480 doesn't I don't care about that. What What What I 2:17:25.600 --> 2:17:29.360 care about is taking a motherfucker part and putting them 2:17:29.400 --> 2:17:36.200 back together again. That's what I'm different. R and B 2:17:38.320 --> 2:17:44.440 R and B money, R and B money. I think 2:17:44.480 --> 2:17:51.160 you got a fan right now? Let me we we 2:17:51.640 --> 2:17:55.200 we before we interview anybody, we listened to their music 2:17:55.640 --> 2:17:57.160 and we was in here and this is let me 2:17:57.200 --> 2:18:05.440 just say something. This is the sexiest we ever felt that. Wait, 2:18:05.600 --> 2:18:08.640 let's listen. Listen, what what are you doing it for? 2:18:10.360 --> 2:18:15.280 You got your kids, You got either your wife or 2:18:15.280 --> 2:18:17.000 a few baby mamas that you got to make sure 2:18:17.080 --> 2:18:20.960 that the buildess covered. But what are you doing it for? 2:18:23.120 --> 2:18:25.480 So that so that the nigga would see you in 2:18:25.520 --> 2:18:29.720 the street it's say my nigga, or so that a 2:18:29.800 --> 2:18:31.560 woman will see you in the street and say, oh 2:18:31.680 --> 2:18:39.840 my god, that is him. Which one makes you feel 2:18:39.920 --> 2:18:45.840 like you are the man that you are. I'm through 2:18:46.160 --> 2:18:49.879 because you know what, because you know what through. Let 2:18:49.920 --> 2:18:52.119 me tell you why. Let me tell you why. It's 2:18:52.160 --> 2:18:54.640 like a one million per cent tell you that me 2:18:54.720 --> 2:19:05.080 and you have probably that the exact sit fans this 2:19:05.520 --> 2:19:08.560 of course for the most part, because what I'm saying 2:19:08.680 --> 2:19:11.640 is I can tell Nigga's come up to you and say, Nigga, 2:19:11.640 --> 2:19:14.960 I made a baby to you. Nigga's come up to 2:19:15.040 --> 2:19:20.359 me and be like, I went to jail to ship terrible. 2:19:23.280 --> 2:19:35.120 It's fine, but you're my friend. I think where you're going. Okay, yes, yes, right, 2:19:35.160 --> 2:19:39.800 that's right. Come on, that's right, Dane. Now, but that's 2:19:39.879 --> 2:19:43.640 real ship. How um. I've always wanted to have those fans. 2:19:43.720 --> 2:19:45.920 By the way, people said, nick I made a baby 2:19:46.040 --> 2:19:51.840 to your ship. It's a choice. Yes, you you are 2:19:52.000 --> 2:19:56.840 a product of your environment. Yes I'm fucked up. You 2:19:56.920 --> 2:20:00.760 product of your environment. I'm a product of my environment. 2:20:01.640 --> 2:20:07.840 Raised by my great grandmother, grandmother mother in the church, 2:20:08.120 --> 2:20:13.440 strong black woman receipt. Women opened the door, say thank you. 2:20:13.879 --> 2:20:18.920 I'm sorry. That's why I was raised. I'm out there 2:20:18.959 --> 2:20:21.320 trying to be trying to be a gangster disciple, and 2:20:21.400 --> 2:20:22.880 it's like, we're not gonna let you do none of 2:20:22.920 --> 2:20:26.400 this ship because your grandmama gonna kill us. I gotta 2:20:26.440 --> 2:20:28.640 pitch for it. Carved in my arm as we speak, 2:20:29.560 --> 2:20:33.880 that's disciples sign trying to be it, all of it. 2:20:35.160 --> 2:20:39.200 I wanted, man, you better go home. Your grandmama may 2:20:39.280 --> 2:20:41.879 want to play. My great grandfather said on the porch. 2:20:43.080 --> 2:20:48.400 Paul lewis with a shotgun and gangs. The gangsters would 2:20:48.440 --> 2:20:53.760 talk at the at the shrubbery before my house. He 2:20:53.959 --> 2:21:04.879 stand up on him. They stopped talking. When they got 2:21:05.040 --> 2:21:07.840 at the end of the shrubbery of our block, they 2:21:07.920 --> 2:21:13.000 started talking again. He sat out, put the shotgun. That swell, 2:21:14.640 --> 2:21:17.800 we're not fucking with you a little Darrell. You're not 2:21:17.879 --> 2:21:23.000 gonna be no gangster disciple. You're not now. Paul Louis 2:21:23.000 --> 2:21:25.120 gonna kill us if we bring you into this. I 2:21:25.240 --> 2:21:28.160 love our generations where I'm from. I love our generation. 2:21:28.320 --> 2:21:33.240 We would like listen. I love I love the stories 2:21:33.320 --> 2:21:37.840 like that. I was there. It was there was a 2:21:37.920 --> 2:21:41.920 shotgun pointed at me. In fifth grade, that's him right there. 2:21:42.000 --> 2:21:45.600 Get him. I said, I'm not him. I promise I'm 2:21:45.640 --> 2:21:49.080 not him. That's him. Nigga, no nigga front. He said, 2:21:49.120 --> 2:21:55.040 that's not him. Nick. I'm telling you that. M hm. 2:21:55.920 --> 2:21:59.880 That ain't sexy. If that's your life, if that's what 2:22:00.080 --> 2:22:02.160 you come from, I respect it. You gotta fight your 2:22:02.200 --> 2:22:04.119 way out. What I was trying to say, sorry, because 2:22:04.840 --> 2:22:07.879 is I love our generation. That generation that you're talking about, 2:22:08.240 --> 2:22:11.000 is because we protected our talents when we've seen somebody 2:22:11.080 --> 2:22:15.640 that's gonna make it somewhere. Kenny Anderson, Um, you know, 2:22:15.680 --> 2:22:18.000 I'm from Left Fact City, Keny Anderson from that Fact City, 2:22:18.280 --> 2:22:21.360 and I remember all the drug dealers coming together and 2:22:21.720 --> 2:22:24.840 chipping in to make sure Kenny Anderson never had to 2:22:24.879 --> 2:22:27.360 sell a drug, never had to do anything. So he 2:22:27.480 --> 2:22:30.480 was going through college and people I thought that, like 2:22:30.560 --> 2:22:32.480 the NBA was hitting them off, but it was all 2:22:32.600 --> 2:22:35.080 my prizes, just all people from my hood, was just 2:22:35.160 --> 2:22:37.640 making sure that you want to roll that gag, you know, 2:22:37.959 --> 2:22:41.720 go have this that goad, and that's not that's this 2:22:41.800 --> 2:22:49.080 generation that you just how I stayed there, I would 2:22:49.080 --> 2:22:55.959 have turned into a guy, right inevitable. Two cousins dead 2:22:56.000 --> 2:23:01.879 from murder m first cousin. He beat that from how 2:23:01.959 --> 2:23:08.840 he did it. He home God, bless God, bless um family. 2:23:09.720 --> 2:23:17.000 There were the guys we understand family like own bracelets. 2:23:17.720 --> 2:23:20.880 Five years, two years, three years too, his family right. 2:23:21.400 --> 2:23:25.760 I would have had no choice. That's what I'm supposed 2:23:25.800 --> 2:23:29.880 to be. I'm overachieved, so I win. We said that 2:23:30.080 --> 2:23:37.240 I win. Father said to my mother, I love you. 2:23:37.360 --> 2:23:40.360 With my family back, I'm staying in Maryland. I need you. 2:23:42.240 --> 2:23:47.960 Took me out of that to that. So your father 2:23:48.000 --> 2:23:49.640 and your mother broke up. And then your pop said, 2:23:50.520 --> 2:23:54.040 I need that, I need that, I need you, I 2:23:54.120 --> 2:23:59.800 need them. My pops, don't man up. I'm in the 2:24:00.000 --> 2:24:04.840 in intentury or dead. Pops said, no, I need that. 2:24:05.640 --> 2:24:09.440 And then that's when y'all move to a decent station 2:24:09.520 --> 2:24:12.640 on Andrews Air Force Base. And he gave me the 2:24:12.640 --> 2:24:16.760 whooping of my life, the beating of my life. That 2:24:17.000 --> 2:24:22.800 changed my life. What did you do? Seventh grade? We 2:24:22.879 --> 2:24:25.560 go to the principal's office for the I don't know 2:24:25.760 --> 2:24:32.360 tiph time, maybe ayby more. She says, if you take 2:24:32.480 --> 2:24:39.480 him home, I'll pass him. Just never bring him back. Wow, 2:24:41.480 --> 2:24:48.480 don't ever bring him back here. I'll pass him. I 2:24:48.680 --> 2:24:51.760 was that guy, got to ask you what you did everything? 2:24:53.280 --> 2:24:56.800 So the teacher, I'll whoop his ass. Tek me to 2:24:56.879 --> 2:25:01.160 deal with your father. Take him home, never bring him back, 2:25:01.400 --> 2:25:04.039 and I'll pass, and I'll pass. What great are we talking? 2:25:04.200 --> 2:25:06.520 Seven seventh grade? That said grade I dropped? It was 2:25:06.760 --> 2:25:10.720 I was an animal. If they won't do it, I'll 2:25:10.760 --> 2:25:14.440 do it. Then they scared, I'll do it. Punch the teacher. 2:25:15.240 --> 2:25:20.360 It scared. I punched the nigger. Oh are you making 2:25:20.440 --> 2:25:26.760 love music right now? Sir? You killed that? How far 2:25:27.240 --> 2:25:34.680 you killed that? That's why you're making Take him home? 2:25:34.800 --> 2:25:38.480 Never bring him back. My father looked at me and said, cool, 2:25:39.040 --> 2:25:42.600 I got him at the beating of my life. He 2:25:42.720 --> 2:25:46.520 bungs you home. He probably What's what I need to understand. 2:25:47.160 --> 2:25:57.680 Was it extension cord? You want black beatings? Extension cord 2:25:58.080 --> 2:26:01.720 familiar as I But yeah, we got well to everywhere 2:26:03.560 --> 2:26:10.359 and that next year, Now I can get detention once, 2:26:11.560 --> 2:26:15.120 and then the year after that, I found God. You 2:26:15.200 --> 2:26:19.240 never had to worry about anything. I just see my 2:26:19.360 --> 2:26:22.200 mom's this weekend, and my mother said I was the 2:26:22.360 --> 2:26:27.040 only child that she didn't beat you. Yeah, I was 2:26:27.080 --> 2:26:34.880 on what my friend you know about coming I don't 2:26:34.920 --> 2:26:39.600 know what did you felt it? You felt it? He 2:26:40.200 --> 2:26:47.800 didn't know anyone laughing? Any want to know this? Just 2:26:47.959 --> 2:26:52.040 nick want But I said it was Eila, and she 2:26:52.160 --> 2:26:55.600 said it was either you tricked me too much. Baby. 2:26:55.920 --> 2:26:59.760 This is my mother. By the way, Oh well, you 2:26:59.840 --> 2:27:03.600 know you would act, you would ask swift. Then my 2:27:03.680 --> 2:27:06.120 sister comes out and says exactly what he said. You 2:27:06.240 --> 2:27:10.720 should have been catching on. He was foul. I don't want, 2:27:11.600 --> 2:27:15.119 but this is a famous story about me in my hood, 2:27:16.240 --> 2:27:20.200 how I jumped off the fifth floor? What all right? 2:27:20.240 --> 2:27:26.000 The police came, right, and so my sister tells the story. 2:27:26.040 --> 2:27:28.160 By the way, I've never told his story because I 2:27:28.200 --> 2:27:33.000 don't really think people care. Right, I got this, I 2:27:33.120 --> 2:27:39.240 got this. So yeah, so my sister said, a story, 2:27:39.760 --> 2:27:43.800 listen nor we jumped off the fifth floor because the 2:27:43.840 --> 2:27:46.080 police is coming from him. So I'm like, all right, cool, 2:27:46.160 --> 2:27:50.879 we're laughing whatever whatever we feel me did me come out? 2:27:50.920 --> 2:27:54.200 And this this is this is my only astortionists ever 2:27:54.400 --> 2:27:59.480 in life? Is this lady name show extortionist? Yes? She 2:27:59.640 --> 2:28:05.080 just stort to me every time she sees me. I 2:28:05.160 --> 2:28:10.040 don't want to say why, but um with your every 2:28:10.080 --> 2:28:16.119 time I see on it whatever. And then she sees 2:28:16.200 --> 2:28:19.360 me and we're filming, and we're filming, and she goes 2:28:21.080 --> 2:28:24.280 all that gangster rap ship he'd be talking about. I 2:28:24.400 --> 2:28:26.480 bet you I don't know about when he jumped off 2:28:26.560 --> 2:28:33.840 the film flaws like the people we are sitting there filming, like, oh, 2:28:33.959 --> 2:28:38.320 this story is legend. So I say that, Just say 2:28:39.000 --> 2:28:44.920 I'm a motherfucking legening man. That's all we need. Let 2:28:44.959 --> 2:28:47.000 me ask you. I want to always ask you, what 2:28:47.200 --> 2:28:52.120 is your relationship with you and John? Yeah? I don't 2:28:52.120 --> 2:28:55.000 really have a relationship with John. I remember walking in 2:28:55.600 --> 2:28:58.240 I remember we were doing a ski a ski resort trip, 2:28:58.600 --> 2:29:02.840 met him with headliners Yeah and the ski resort, ski resort, 2:29:03.160 --> 2:29:07.440 and he was going to yeah, Upper New York, Okay, 2:29:07.959 --> 2:29:09.879 and he was going after me, which I didn't think 2:29:09.920 --> 2:29:12.400 was the right. But I was like, you know what 2:29:12.520 --> 2:29:18.320 you shooting. I'm gonna kick his right. I did not know. 2:29:18.480 --> 2:29:21.640 I did not know he's gonna I'm a killer, right. 2:29:21.840 --> 2:29:25.080 So I come back from the ski resort, which is 2:29:25.120 --> 2:29:29.320 an hour and a half away. M hmm. We went 2:29:29.440 --> 2:29:32.600 and eight at Applebee's on the way back. All that, 2:29:33.560 --> 2:29:37.640 and we get back and Johams in the lobby in 2:29:37.800 --> 2:29:43.440 show gear and and he's just before and I was like, oh, 2:29:43.520 --> 2:29:46.960 shoot you on the white niggas. He's like, now, I'm 2:29:46.959 --> 2:29:50.240 gonna let you have that champ. What do you mean? 2:29:50.600 --> 2:29:52.840 He's like, I ain't feeling it tonight. You know what 2:29:52.840 --> 2:29:55.160 I'm saying that you do your thing, baby. You know 2:29:55.200 --> 2:30:00.600 what I'm saying, like it's all good. I said, what 2:30:00.680 --> 2:30:04.080 do you mean You're not going? No, no good, I'm good. 2:30:04.280 --> 2:30:10.560 I ain't got time for that tonight. He was the 2:30:10.720 --> 2:30:14.160 first guy I ever seen saying I don't feel like 2:30:14.280 --> 2:30:20.520 performing tonight. Good luck. But it feels like you're saying 2:30:21.560 --> 2:30:26.240 you felt like you don't feel like performing with you. Nope, 2:30:26.600 --> 2:30:29.320 what about me? What about you? What about me? What 2:30:29.440 --> 2:30:33.720 about nobody? Jahim literally marched to the beat of his 2:30:33.800 --> 2:30:38.000 own drum. If I don't feel like performing tonight, I'm 2:30:38.120 --> 2:30:42.960 not going to perform. M hmm. Period. That's gonna be 2:30:43.040 --> 2:30:47.080 a business mess. No, it's just it's it's it's here. 2:30:49.240 --> 2:30:52.000 I'm not saying he was threatened by you. I feel like, 2:30:52.360 --> 2:30:54.800 I'll be honest, I feel like you're saying that, but 2:30:55.320 --> 2:30:58.440 he's not saying that. That's what I'm saying about that part. 2:30:58.640 --> 2:31:01.640 Most things are threatened by me because that's what you said. 2:31:01.640 --> 2:31:05.040 That's a fact. Niggas don't want to perform, don't want to. 2:31:06.280 --> 2:31:09.440 I got work because I don't just sing it. I 2:31:09.560 --> 2:31:14.400 write it and produce it. Honey, my ship is over 2:31:14.480 --> 2:31:20.160 sixty million out in the streets. So but he's not 2:31:20.240 --> 2:31:22.600 a guy that was concerned about that. He was a 2:31:22.640 --> 2:31:24.760 guy that was like, I'm gonna do what the funk 2:31:24.800 --> 2:31:26.360 I want to do when the funk I want to 2:31:26.400 --> 2:31:29.480 do it. M he was the first guy I've ever 2:31:29.600 --> 2:31:31.920 seen like that in R and B that said I'm 2:31:31.920 --> 2:31:34.200 gonna do what the funk I wanted to do. That's 2:31:34.240 --> 2:31:37.320 what Mack quietly, what made me want to do it? 2:31:37.800 --> 2:31:40.000 I told my manager Ja I said that that won't 2:31:40.080 --> 2:31:43.080 kill us, right A right, if it's right, we'll go. 2:31:43.400 --> 2:31:53.840 So not right, we won't. I asked Twitter Tank who 2:31:54.000 --> 2:32:02.000 was he against on versus nobody? You're asking the wrong question, 2:32:04.280 --> 2:32:08.000 kim Puis, I said, okay, you're sorry, kim Pits. You 2:32:08.000 --> 2:32:11.080 should have asked in Spanish man, who can do what 2:32:11.240 --> 2:32:16.879 the funk I do? Kim Putis, I said, who can 2:32:17.280 --> 2:32:20.960 write it, produce it, sing it and go number one? 2:32:22.240 --> 2:32:26.920 With nobody else in charge? Nobody else producing it, nobody 2:32:26.959 --> 2:32:33.400 else writing it, nobody else doing anything? Who else? Name one? 2:32:34.840 --> 2:32:41.760 Alligan can't kill us. I just want you to keep going, sir. 2:32:43.040 --> 2:32:56.119 You're saying place produce it, screaming no you can. I'm 2:32:56.240 --> 2:33:00.560 that guy. I can do it all and welcome to 2:33:00.640 --> 2:33:03.000 his studio by myself and walk out with an album 2:33:03.560 --> 2:33:08.400 and in Spanish English and in Spanish by myself, and 2:33:08.560 --> 2:33:14.160 go number one. So it's not the question is who's 2:33:14.160 --> 2:33:18.600 better than me? Who do you know? They can do that? 2:33:19.160 --> 2:33:23.480 Only one guy that was close. He's locked up. Okay, 2:33:26.440 --> 2:33:28.560 they got us jump me to beat me. They need 2:33:28.680 --> 2:33:31.480 the best producer, they need the best writers, They need 2:33:31.560 --> 2:33:36.720 the best choreographers too. To jump me by my motherfucking self, 2:33:37.440 --> 2:33:41.960 to name one? Taking a shot? Put this, put the 2:33:42.040 --> 2:33:50.000 liquer down. Who no name one? Dream? We need you, bro. 2:33:50.280 --> 2:33:56.680 He was talking to that ship earlier. Nobody who's gonna 2:33:56.800 --> 2:34:01.440 produce it, write it, sing it, go number one by himself? 2:34:05.440 --> 2:34:11.600 You name one? I'm going then ask me who the 2:34:11.680 --> 2:34:17.120 king is. Don't ask me that. I don't nobody to 2:34:17.160 --> 2:34:29.640 do what I do. Clap for that. I'm now gonna 2:34:29.640 --> 2:34:32.000 start of seeing a look at the story deal the 2:34:32.040 --> 2:34:34.160 story I see him do and say I want story 2:34:34.200 --> 2:34:43.000 do I want to? Not in past? Its right now. 2:34:43.800 --> 2:34:50.240 So right now, you're not bab your hand. I'm not 2:34:50.440 --> 2:34:59.360 battling nobody. I don't leave a break. God, maybe you 2:34:59.400 --> 2:35:02.240 could do it from that. Listen. I'll tell you honestly, 2:35:02.240 --> 2:35:05.640 I can't be R Kelly in the versus. Okay, that's hard. 2:35:06.680 --> 2:35:08.440 I can't so who you want? Who you want, like 2:35:08.720 --> 2:35:12.800 if Swiss, there's no there's nobody. I can't beat R 2:35:12.920 --> 2:35:16.320 Kelly in the versus. He is R Kelly. I can't 2:35:16.360 --> 2:35:19.039 beat him in the versus. In terms of who I am. 2:35:19.400 --> 2:35:23.680 There's nobody who does what I do. There's no producer, songwriter, 2:35:24.240 --> 2:35:28.320 singer who does what I do. There's nobody, Like, let's 2:35:28.320 --> 2:35:32.840 say us sure is the product of Jermaine dupri Confessions 2:35:32.920 --> 2:35:36.600 is his story. It's not. It's not us your story. 2:35:37.000 --> 2:35:42.000 It's his story. It's just it's be Cox at the produce, 2:35:42.080 --> 2:35:46.119 Brian Cox producing at that they gotta jump me. It's 2:35:51.840 --> 2:35:56.200 it's at the top of their game there. It's for 2:35:56.520 --> 2:36:00.360 people against me. So what about this song for song? 2:36:00.520 --> 2:36:05.119 Never mind song song for the song? It's five niggas 2:36:05.160 --> 2:36:09.720 on the song first me by myself as you against 2:36:09.760 --> 2:36:16.039 you on versus. Let's go tyrenks. Don't write or produce. 2:36:16.840 --> 2:36:20.640 He not me? I right for Jinua one. He not me. 2:36:22.120 --> 2:36:28.960 He's my mentor he's not me. Who's me? Listen? I 2:36:29.080 --> 2:36:32.840 gotta keep my ship straight? Who produces it right? It 2:36:33.280 --> 2:36:43.200 sings it? He's not me. You don't produce ship tree 2:36:43.240 --> 2:36:49.119 and no produced nothing, I thought, dreams nothing. I'm here 2:36:50.200 --> 2:36:55.160 from start to finish. The kick, the snare, whatever the 2:36:55.240 --> 2:36:59.600 pad is, whatever the memory line, that's me. I'm him 2:37:01.240 --> 2:37:05.560 your because there's only one Guy's goake it because there's 2:37:05.600 --> 2:37:13.440 only one guy. Because you're popping wow ships like a guy. 2:37:13.840 --> 2:37:18.160 You gotta take it or don't count. He's in jail. 2:37:20.080 --> 2:37:22.600 That could come close. That's what he came to me 2:37:22.680 --> 2:37:24.920 and said, they need to learn that ship you're doing. 2:37:27.840 --> 2:37:29.920 And you and your manager beat him in ball. When 2:37:29.959 --> 2:37:36.640 you want to beat his ask me and h he 2:37:36.800 --> 2:37:40.280 never wanted to give him the games. But let's not 2:37:40.360 --> 2:37:44.120 get it twisted. R Kelly is the king of R 2:37:44.240 --> 2:37:49.840 and B. Let's not get this ship twisted. Let this 2:37:50.000 --> 2:37:54.560 be your headline. R Kelly is the king of R 2:37:54.680 --> 2:37:59.480 and B. Whether you like it or not, I'm not 2:38:00.040 --> 2:38:03.920 don't need anything that he might have done outside of 2:38:04.000 --> 2:38:10.120 the real legalities. He's piano bitch. She's like a motherfucker. 2:38:10.920 --> 2:38:16.520 Who has believed I can fly? You stop it. I 2:38:16.680 --> 2:38:22.120 can't believe who has believe I can fly? No, no, no, no, 2:38:23.320 --> 2:38:30.880 who has done who has fiesta with jay Z the 2:38:31.080 --> 2:38:36.840 Goat a biggie. I don't care what you say, we 2:38:36.959 --> 2:38:40.080 will we will always be chasing the ghosts of our Kelly. 2:38:41.360 --> 2:38:43.360 I don't care how great I feel like I am. 2:38:43.480 --> 2:38:45.720 I know I am r. Kelly said, nigger, you got 2:38:45.800 --> 2:38:47.720 that falsetto. I don't know how you do that. You 2:38:47.800 --> 2:38:51.280 gotta teach me that ship. I respect it. I'm not 2:38:51.440 --> 2:38:58.200 him yet. I'm not him yet. I'm not I'm a 2:38:58.280 --> 2:39:01.920 problem mean that music. Let's music very musically. I am 2:39:02.000 --> 2:39:05.959 not him. We don't want to become him. Not him, right, Okay? 2:39:06.640 --> 2:39:12.640 You know Fortunate the Batchell thing, that's a Kelly. He 2:39:12.840 --> 2:39:15.080 wasn't going to give that record away. They said, in 2:39:15.240 --> 2:39:18.280 order to make do on your deal, you gotta give 2:39:18.320 --> 2:39:23.679 that to Max Will let him let him fortunate. Fortunate 2:39:24.840 --> 2:39:32.400 have you? Girl, I'm surprised I heard. I don't know 2:39:32.480 --> 2:39:44.920 what Kelly that was? Life live my life, life, life, Live, life, Live. 2:39:45.879 --> 2:40:00.959 That's a give, that's our killing, fucking kidding me. I got, 2:40:01.120 --> 2:40:05.320 I got a million miles before I beat him. He's 2:40:05.360 --> 2:40:07.280 the bar okay, none of he's on the niggas fun 2:40:07.360 --> 2:40:12.000 with me. He's the bar okay. How many people you 2:40:12.080 --> 2:40:14.080 think is right in R Kelly and jail right now? 2:40:14.200 --> 2:40:18.400 Like from R and B people A bunch a bunch, 2:40:18.800 --> 2:40:21.720 So no one really cut him off in ya world. 2:40:23.520 --> 2:40:27.680 I separated myself because he wasn't a friend of mine, 2:40:28.800 --> 2:40:30.840 be honest, and once you beat him in ball, he 2:40:30.879 --> 2:40:34.560 didn't like you. He's not earlier. He wasn't a friend 2:40:34.640 --> 2:40:37.280 and manager manager wanted to beat him every time. Every time. 2:40:38.720 --> 2:40:41.400 I wanted him to be a friend of mine. But 2:40:42.480 --> 2:40:46.119 because R. Kelly was R Kelly, he was the tip 2:40:46.160 --> 2:40:48.400 of the food chain, so he was like anything beneath 2:40:48.440 --> 2:40:50.560 me is beneath me. He really wasn't a nice guy, 2:40:51.520 --> 2:40:54.160 so he didn't sunk with me, but he foke with me. 2:40:54.920 --> 2:40:56.280 He foke with me because he knew what I was. 2:40:57.120 --> 2:41:00.040 But I'm not gonna give it to you, nigga that 2:41:00.160 --> 2:41:06.240 I earned it. Nigga old school wasn't that guy, and 2:41:06.320 --> 2:41:09.120 I respect him for it because I didn't want it 2:41:09.320 --> 2:41:14.200 given to me. Of course we all do. I wanted 2:41:14.240 --> 2:41:16.840 to beat you, nigga. I didn't get a chance to 2:41:16.879 --> 2:41:21.880 beat R. Kelly. Fans call me King, fans call me 2:41:22.000 --> 2:41:25.520 all sorts of names. I didn't get to beat the guy. 2:41:26.640 --> 2:41:30.920 I didn't get to beat R. Kelly. He beat a 2:41:31.000 --> 2:41:33.040 lot of ship right now, how did you get to 2:41:33.080 --> 2:41:39.840 beat him? He's the guy these things are Kelly Kelly 2:41:39.959 --> 2:41:43.640 was That was the headline of the arena tour. It 2:41:43.800 --> 2:41:49.640 was him. I didn't get to beat him, so I can't. 2:41:53.080 --> 2:41:56.039 I can't assume a title. I can't. I'm the General 2:41:56.160 --> 2:41:59.520 of R and B. That's the title was given. That's 2:42:00.360 --> 2:42:03.840 I'm in the filipedia. Then your nickname says the general. 2:42:04.120 --> 2:42:07.680 I'm in the field to sit on their thrones and 2:42:07.840 --> 2:42:11.000 watch people do battle. I'm in the field. But by 2:42:11.040 --> 2:42:15.720 the way, there's very few people who worked with Aliyah 2:42:16.040 --> 2:42:26.520 and R. Kelly. Listen, I'll say this Aaliyah gave me 2:42:26.640 --> 2:42:31.480 all the confidence I needed to step into this thing 2:42:31.640 --> 2:42:35.080 called R and B. Because before that I was just 2:42:35.200 --> 2:42:40.600 a church kid, singing church music and singing church and 2:42:40.640 --> 2:42:42.640 that wrong with being nothing wrong with it. But I 2:42:42.800 --> 2:42:48.120 wasn't ready you're a I was green. Aliah told me 2:42:48.280 --> 2:42:56.000 you're ready, You're ready for this ship, and like nothing 2:42:56.280 --> 2:43:07.320 valid Okay, get my a shot ready. Nothing validates you 2:43:08.680 --> 2:43:16.160 more than a woman real. When Aliah says you're that guy, 2:43:17.480 --> 2:43:21.880 all right, that makes all the difference in the world. 2:43:24.520 --> 2:43:29.560 Nothing trumps that. And when she said that to me, 2:43:30.280 --> 2:43:36.320 I tuck it and I ran with it. I said, 2:43:36.520 --> 2:43:40.280 Leah said it, so keep none of y'all funk with me. 2:43:41.160 --> 2:43:44.520 I don't care what none of y'all say. Elijah said, 2:43:44.560 --> 2:43:50.880 I'm him. Yeah, we'll funk what you say. I'm him. 2:43:51.360 --> 2:43:56.800 Because Elijah said so in genuine gave me. He gave 2:43:56.840 --> 2:44:02.600 me the He gave me the battle him. Let's just 2:44:02.680 --> 2:44:06.800 be clear, you are my shot, is right? I don't 2:44:06.840 --> 2:44:12.800 not right. He gave me the battery. Shout out to Jine, 2:44:13.560 --> 2:44:19.000 Shout out to Tyrese while vocal battle wrest in peace 2:44:19.080 --> 2:44:27.440 to Eliah. Yeah, vocal battle you Tyres. When Elia said 2:44:27.480 --> 2:44:30.400 you him, yeah, you know you him? You are him 2:44:31.280 --> 2:44:33.879 guy Tyres tried to battle me in his early days, 2:44:35.520 --> 2:44:40.280 said Nicky, you're not me, I'm him. Kicked his ass. 2:44:41.240 --> 2:44:45.560 How does a vocal battle go? Run for run? So 2:44:45.640 --> 2:44:51.480 what do you it's not that, it's not that, it's 2:44:51.520 --> 2:44:55.760 not that, it's not what he just did. I promise you, 2:44:55.840 --> 2:44:59.920 it's not tarres to tell you we wouldn't run for 2:45:00.080 --> 2:45:04.080 run on the e O L Elements of Life video, 2:45:04.160 --> 2:45:08.440 shoot we want note for note And I said, this 2:45:08.680 --> 2:45:13.520 is why I'm different. Mm hmmm. And he said, and 2:45:13.600 --> 2:45:18.160 that's when he became my friend. M Eliyah said, you're different. 2:45:19.480 --> 2:45:22.560 I got you. This is what you should be and 2:45:22.680 --> 2:45:25.520 everything she said I should be, that's what I became, 2:45:28.640 --> 2:45:34.680 nothing less. I become nothing less than what Elijah said 2:45:34.720 --> 2:45:38.080 I should be. And Genuine is sitting at his house, 2:45:38.800 --> 2:45:43.040 rich with bags of money, saying, that's my son. I 2:45:43.240 --> 2:45:46.240 told him he was gonna be that. It's fire. That's 2:45:46.280 --> 2:45:49.360 what the funk I am. So when these niggas started 2:45:49.360 --> 2:45:52.520 talking about King and all this other ships they're talking 2:45:52.520 --> 2:45:55.760 about twenty two years in, I'm number one right now. 2:45:57.240 --> 2:46:10.440 Come see me, nigga. I love this. You know why 2:46:10.480 --> 2:46:13.880 I love this. I'm gonna tell you why I love this, 2:46:13.959 --> 2:46:20.320 because um, you've given us all you this is one 2:46:20.400 --> 2:46:24.280 million for saying you. And I watched the interviews on 2:46:24.360 --> 2:46:27.040 the Burthos Club. I watched it and I was so 2:46:27.560 --> 2:46:29.360 happy to meet you. That I mean to see you 2:46:29.480 --> 2:46:31.360 that day, not to meet you, that to me and 2:46:31.440 --> 2:46:36.279 you and then for you to bring your whole energy 2:46:36.360 --> 2:46:39.440 into fruition like like I said this, wrappers will out 2:46:39.480 --> 2:46:44.840 of me and say and I called him good, you 2:46:44.920 --> 2:46:49.240 know whatever, But you kept your word from the minute 2:46:50.160 --> 2:46:53.240 we've seen each other again reconnected and I know for 2:46:53.440 --> 2:46:56.920 one million but sent you're a real person and I 2:46:57.040 --> 2:46:58.640 just want to salute that. I just want to get 2:46:58.680 --> 2:47:05.480 you your flowers. I also want them before you say something, 2:47:05.800 --> 2:47:08.920 but I also want one thing to tell you. Thank 2:47:09.000 --> 2:47:12.440 you A whole legend out my nigga niggers like I 2:47:12.560 --> 2:47:17.280 cause just a tiny bit of what I'm here is 2:47:18.240 --> 2:47:21.240 sometimes you're still fighting for something that's already given to you. 2:47:23.240 --> 2:47:26.360 We all respect you, we all salute you. We all 2:47:26.640 --> 2:47:30.800 know like you that guy, We all know that. You 2:47:30.840 --> 2:47:34.040 know what I'm saying. And you know what's crazy about 2:47:34.320 --> 2:47:36.680 us is the more money we get, you more whatever, 2:47:37.120 --> 2:47:39.879 and sometimes we try to fight for something that's already ours. 2:47:40.720 --> 2:47:43.680 You know what I'm saying. I had to learn that. 2:47:43.800 --> 2:47:48.040 I had to learn that is you know. Um, so 2:47:48.080 --> 2:47:50.560 many people keep every time I go on Twitter, They're like, 2:47:51.040 --> 2:47:53.560 we want people to interview you and e fan because 2:47:53.600 --> 2:47:55.920 y'all give out flowers, but as y'all turn to get 2:47:55.959 --> 2:48:00.720 the flowers, and and my response is, uh, when we 2:48:00.840 --> 2:48:04.000 give out the flowers, that is all flowers too. You 2:48:04.040 --> 2:48:06.760 know what I'm saying, That as all flowers too. And 2:48:06.840 --> 2:48:11.680 I just want you to know Tank, your music is endless. 2:48:16.879 --> 2:48:20.120 I've studied you, know you. I consider you my friend, 2:48:20.400 --> 2:48:22.360 but I studied you because I wanted to be like 2:48:22.800 --> 2:48:25.680 and what I said is like, damn, this is probably 2:48:25.760 --> 2:48:33.240 the last R and B real person like left. And 2:48:34.320 --> 2:48:37.840 everything about the way you you transition your music, the 2:48:37.879 --> 2:48:40.959 way you put it together, the way everything is exactly. 2:48:41.120 --> 2:48:43.720 I used to buy tapes called slow jams kicking pre 2:48:45.080 --> 2:48:47.000 you still you kicking for us to make these these 2:48:47.240 --> 2:48:50.360 these tapes called slow dams, and I would go and 2:48:50.720 --> 2:48:54.360 that would be my you know, there would be my 2:48:54.520 --> 2:48:57.440 way to try to get a girl. I'm playing the 2:48:57.520 --> 2:49:02.080 slow jams and me just me, just listening to your joint. 2:49:02.320 --> 2:49:06.560 I'm like, damn, this is just this is real music. 2:49:07.400 --> 2:49:11.760 This is real music. You make real music. We love you, 2:49:12.000 --> 2:49:15.360 we respect you, we honor you. And it's in case 2:49:15.440 --> 2:49:20.840 you've never knew the ship that you do matters? And 2:49:21.040 --> 2:49:27.840 were motherfucker was like that, motherfucker it matters. Bro. I've 2:49:27.879 --> 2:49:30.080 been studying you for since I've seen you in l 2:49:30.160 --> 2:49:32.840 A and I was just like, I was like, damn, 2:49:34.360 --> 2:49:41.440 is that people making real music, real music feelings where 2:49:41.480 --> 2:49:43.760 you feel it in your feelings. And I gotta give 2:49:43.800 --> 2:49:47.000 those people power. Yes, I got to use my moment 2:49:47.360 --> 2:49:49.200 as I am number one, It's not just about me. 2:49:50.640 --> 2:49:52.879 How do I empower the next artist to be number 2:49:52.920 --> 2:49:58.720 one on R and B radio? How that's the point 2:49:59.160 --> 2:50:01.800 we went to, good shot. I have a little bathroom, 2:50:01.879 --> 2:50:03.800 but come down to the shot. Did you go to 2:50:03.800 --> 2:50:07.879 the bathroomlet's do let's go, let's do shot. Bathroom, then shot, 2:50:08.240 --> 2:50:11.280 and then we're gonna drinke some pictures and let's just changing. 2:50:12.320 --> 2:50:14.560 I'm sorry because I don't want to prolong the shot, 2:50:14.640 --> 2:50:18.119 but I also want to get your flowers. I really 2:50:18.200 --> 2:50:21.840 appreciate you coming here. I really appreciate you, you know, 2:50:21.959 --> 2:50:28.280 sharing your story, you know, being real, vulnerable, humble, cocky, 2:50:28.400 --> 2:50:31.880 all on the same the same token. It's all the 2:50:32.000 --> 2:50:35.520 same token on the table. But thank you so much 2:50:35.560 --> 2:50:37.880 for being the real you, because you're gonna came in 2:50:38.000 --> 2:50:39.959 and did and did you know, and by the way, 2:50:40.480 --> 2:50:42.480 you're drinking that whole deli on boy. We will get 2:50:42.480 --> 2:50:53.480 you a deal. We don't get you deal myself. It's 2:50:53.560 --> 2:50:58.440 the bathroom. 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