1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Drink Champs, the production of the Black Effect 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 1: and I Heart Radio and his drinks motherfucking podcast. He's 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: a legendary Queen's rappers. He's said that's your boy here, 4 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: No R, He's a Miami hippop pioneer. D J e 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: f N. Together they drinking up with some of the 6 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,639 Speaker 1: biggest players in the most professional, unprofessional podcast and yet 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: number one sorts for drunk backs. Motherfucks New Year's e 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: just for Drink Champs. Trick up on the what it 9 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: could be Hopeley would have should be. This is your 10 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: point in o R. What up is d J e 11 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: f N and this drink chap yapao make some No. 12 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: And right now when I'm when I'm talking about the 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: guests to the left of me, I am talking about 14 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: R and B phenomenon. I'm listening to his music and 15 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying to look for old o'tune. I'm trying to 16 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: look for the cheek codes. And now this is a 17 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,199 Speaker 1: this is a he's hanks. I he arrails hands, Hans 18 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: he hit that. No, he came here, loved man. Let's 19 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,279 Speaker 1: get it. Don't camera, don't caumecra, don't get you don't camera. 20 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: This man has been out there working doing what he 21 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: gotta do, and this motherfucking field always happy every time 22 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: I see it. So case you don't know who the 23 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: hell I'm talking about, because he's gonna sing your girls 24 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: panties off, and this is true. Case you don't know 25 00:01:50,600 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: how'm talking about, what only to say inevitable camera. Yeah, 26 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: for the record, we're coming off this oscars, right, I 27 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: just want to stay off top. I'm scared of world Smith, like, 28 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: you don't vote for them, right. I've met Will a 29 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: few times. I've I've never met Chris Rock. Okay, okay, 30 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: Well one time I met Chris Rock talk. It was 31 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: in the party and if I'm talking and sayd hey, Chris, 32 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: you no take a picture? And Chris is like, what 33 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: is the world going to? The um? I want the 34 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: picture with Noriega and Chris Rock. And I was like, 35 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell that. First of all, it wasn't funny. 36 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: That wasn't funny to me. And then I was like, 37 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: and I started to think about it that comedians don't 38 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: know how to turn off being So what did you see? 39 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: What did you see when when you first saw that? 40 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: Where was you at? What what was you saying to yourself? 41 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: I saw I saw a man fat up. I saw 42 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: a man feed up. You know what I mean? I 43 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: think when we when we look at Will, we we 44 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: want to paint this perfect picture because to us, you know, 45 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: he is a king. He is that standard, that bob, 46 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: and so we we we great him on a very 47 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: high scale. Will is not allowed to make mistakes, he's 48 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: not allowed to have bad days. He's not a lot 49 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: of it's a lot of pressure. And then I see 50 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: the wife, you know, who's been enduring, you know, enduring 51 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: for the last however long, and I just saw a 52 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: breaking point. And the joke probably wasn't the worst joke 53 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: that's been said. We've seen some crazier jokes. But sometimes 54 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: it's just the straw that breaks the camels. Question under 55 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, weird at a breaking point. So 56 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: even this straw right here, it may not be all 57 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: about you, but this little straw that you just put 58 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: on that camel's back, it was enough to send me. 59 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: Now was he wrong? I don't know, I don't know. 60 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: I want your opinion. I just up listen. Yes he 61 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: was wrong, undoubtably a full chest wrong. Now here's what 62 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: you do know, sometimes you have to go there to 63 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: let people know that you will. Yeah, I equated to 64 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: talking to shot earlier. I equated to being on the 65 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: basketball court. Right. There are fouls, and there are technical fouls, right, 66 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: and so at a certain point in the game, when 67 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: you're trying to send a message to the other team, 68 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: you may say, you know what, for the sake of 69 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: the energy moving forward, I need to not issue a 70 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: regular fiul. I need to issue a technical foul. So 71 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: you mother fuckers. No, I will go there if I 72 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: have to. Because I felt him when he said keep 73 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:09,559 Speaker 1: my wife's name, I'll keep motherfucking mouth. That's I said. 74 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: I was immediately scared of the person who made parents 75 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 1: don't understand. You don't mess with said, I've been judged. 76 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: I missed judge this for years. Leave a man, leave 77 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: a man's money alone, leave a man's kids alone, leave 78 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: a man's food alone, and by God, leave a man's 79 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: wife alone. Just like that, Just because the last time 80 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: act like this is the first time a comedian has 81 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: been ran up on, not just magnitude though, I got it. Yeah, 82 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: but this is commonplace. You can look in the crowd. 83 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: I do comedy. You can look at the crowd and 84 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: tell I shouldn't talk about him because he's already giving 85 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: me the place, like, don't bring that ship over here 86 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: like I'm enjoying myself. But I will. I will do that. 87 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Comedians so this, I don't 88 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: think anybody could have anticipated that. But because he didn't smack, 89 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: he smacked the internet. He smacked the means all the 90 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: jokes that did be said every time Tupac is bored up, 91 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: they'd be saying, it's like some funny ship. He's tired 92 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: of that. He smacked. It's like a pressure, just like 93 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: that's what it was. Fed up. Will has the size 94 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: he has to reach. Have you seen Chris thought about that? 95 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: Chris say, man, let me just let it go. That's 96 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: the disappointed. If I walk up on you and swing 97 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: on you, I know it's something coming behind that we're 98 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: going to wrestle fight this thing out. I needed Chris Rock. 99 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: I needed him to just give me so good. He's 100 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: taking like a taking like a let me tell you something. 101 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: He took it like a g let me tell you something. 102 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: When they say when they say, I'm saying, it could 103 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: have gone crazy, it could have gone crazy, but let 104 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: me just like it's supposed to. At that moment, it 105 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: felt like the Sauce Awards. It doesn't even be like 106 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: you right when you smack me automatic. That's another part 107 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: I forgot. He didn't want him. He's the ultimate, but 108 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: I think the smack is worse in the punch. You're 109 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: treated me like I got penny holes on, like coming hard? No, 110 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: what is this? Like? I can't That was because it's 111 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: Oscars and the truth. Let me just tell you something. 112 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: I've never been in the Oscars. I've never I'm just 113 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: I just I felt like it's there awards show, right. 114 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: I always felt like that this you know more is 115 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: boycotting that, but I always felt like it was their 116 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: award show. But they had my man producing it. Um Wacker, Yeah, 117 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: woll Packer. And don't I feel like every time they 118 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: like we do get something like we do something for 119 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: ourselves up, like like I want to do real Smith 120 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: is gonna smack with Rock. That's a fucking just there 121 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: was sound like a joke like like here's the thing. Okay, okay, 122 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: we are event for We're an eventful people like that 123 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: somehow another the stars always line for us to have 124 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: a moment when we're trying to have a moment. That 125 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: was good. This just just what it is sometimes, man. 126 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: And shout out to Willpacker for for producing a hell 127 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: of a show. The show was actually good. Very proud 128 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: of Will pack Great show you get because I don't 129 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: like award shows it did. It looks like it has 130 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: no soul and you could tell before I knew Will 131 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: Packer was doing it, I could tell this was made 132 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 1: with soul. Somebody, somebody who's producing this soul and their 133 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: motherfucker looking out for me and wanted me to watch 134 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: absolutely aslutely so, have you ever been in an access 135 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: I've never been to the oscars. I've never been invited. Um, 136 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: I can don't consider myself an actor. You know. I 137 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: have some big BET blockbusters as well as some some 138 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: major TV one blockbuster. Did you see me in the 139 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: new edition? Starts Joe bust me? You didn't, Okay, that's fine. 140 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: Anybody in here and see me, That's fine. I hate it. 141 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a big deal on BT Okay, nothing 142 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: made to the big screen yet I'm on my way. 143 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need your support, so you're doing you know 144 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: they don't invite me, so you know what. The Oscars 145 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: they't invited me yet. You know, I guess they don't 146 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: nominate BT movies and TV one movies. But we're getting there, 147 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: We're making progress. How about the Grammys? What do you 148 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: what do you in terms of that? Like your photogrammis? 149 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 1: Are you like the Grammys? I'm not. I'm not saying 150 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: funck the Grammys. Okay, I'm never say that, But I 151 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:12,959 Speaker 1: can't say there is a need for immediate change. This 152 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: gradual we're working on it. Oh, we're gonna get to it. 153 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: Not gonna work because music is ever changing. As we 154 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: see now that these platforms have come in, all these 155 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: new platforms that have come into place to help monetize 156 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: music more and give more visibility to certain kinds of artists, 157 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: the landscape is completely different. And you have a format 158 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: that is catered to traditional to traditional music or the 159 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: traditional style of judging music, you can't do that no more. 160 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: You just can't, like case in point, like when oz 161 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: was going crazy. Of course, if you don't, if you're 162 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: not in the festivals, if you're not tapping into that 163 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: place where that music is played, you don't know how 164 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: massive that kid is you don't know to put him 165 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: in the top rap categories at your Grammys because you 166 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: don't know. Everything you're doing is still done in a 167 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: traditional space, different metrics. So it has to change, and 168 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: people who understand the new metrics have to be integrated 169 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: into the Grammys or they're gonna or they're gonna lose 170 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: touch with everybody. They're gonna lose touch with everybody, and 171 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: these things have to be televised. Like I argue this, UM, 172 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: shout out to hear those guys. I love everybody. Um, 173 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, shout out to BT, shoutout to Soul training, 174 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: all these guys. But accused me that the R and 175 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: B best R and B category is not televised. Why 176 00:11:54,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: why why can't we Why can't I love be seen? Huh, 177 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: sexuality be saying that's crazy. I didn't even that. I 178 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: don't want to hurt nobody, nobody. You know what I'm saying. 179 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: My songs are you know, your phones are different. You 180 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But yet, and not against hip hop, 181 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: you have more of a platform to say and do 182 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: the things you need to do versus me. I'm just 183 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: selling love. But I digress. So I think the format 184 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: needs to be adjusted. In the way you adjust that 185 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: format is by integrating people who know what the fund 186 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: is going on right now, right like we like we're 187 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: supposed to be at the the championship of that, Like 188 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: when these these awards and things like that, it's supposed 189 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: to be some of us in the room. Is that 190 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: what you're intended? Absolutely? Yeah, in the room and listen. 191 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: It can't be everybody can't be over thirty. Everybody can't 192 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: be over forded. Okay, but a sixty five year old listen, 193 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't care how long I don't already trying to 194 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: hang on. He should not be voting in just shouldn't 195 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: be doing it right the pop category. He should listn't. 196 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: If he want to vote on smooth jazz, let let 197 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: him do that. But there has to be changed, and 198 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: the integration has to happen now or you're gonna lose 199 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: touch with the culture R and B and hip hop 200 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: for that matter. Let me let me ask you changing 201 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: it up a little bit. One thing I can hear 202 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: from you, like I could. I can hear when I'm 203 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: listening to your music, I could tell you was raising 204 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: the church boy. Are you absolutely like it? Says that, 205 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: and I know that's we're real singers. It always it 206 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: starts out like that. How do you feel I'm switching 207 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: it up a little bit? How do you feel about 208 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: people who don't go to that, people who just take 209 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: the easy route out and go order tune and then 210 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: they can't even perform live because they're really not they 211 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: can't sing at all. I love it. I did not 212 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: expect that. I love it. It's a place for all 213 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: of its love. Because listen, there are R and B R, 214 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: and there are R and B singers. There's a difference. 215 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: I need them so that the highlight of what I 216 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: do is personified even more. You're gonna get some of that. 217 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: You canna have playtime over there, you know what I'm saying, 218 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: and enjoy them. Tune the lyrics in Maryland, I I 219 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: turned the tune on. Sometimes I turned it on to 220 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: the aesthetic for the sound, tap into the youth. But 221 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: when you want to hear a real singer, when you 222 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: want your soul touched, you know what I'm saying. When 223 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: you when you when ladies, when you want your inner 224 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: secretions to flow in section, I don't want to after 225 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: that mean, I know what it means. Then you come 226 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: see R B singer. And again I always, I always 227 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: try to speak to the equality of a thing. If 228 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna give the guys with the auto tune all 229 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: the mainstream look, then give the vocal listen real singers 230 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: some mainstream looks as well. We're asking let make some 231 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: that would be the equivalent of lyricists m c s. 232 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: And some that aren't. But they make dope music. They 233 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: make dope music. Some some rappers are stylists, you know 234 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, where it's like a voice you just 235 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: can't deny, you know what I'm saying. Some rappers are 236 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: good at making songs. The hook is fired the body 237 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: of the so so maybe a few lines. And then 238 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: some are just flat out lyricists to where there are bars, 239 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That they're just undefeated. So 240 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: it's room for all of it. I just want us 241 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: to be able to I'm an R and B singer. Man, 242 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: let me eat too, Let me with my big right right? 243 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: Are you drinking beer? Is that pace efical? Yeah? He 244 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: might be met Say so when I googled you it, 245 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: say so. When I doled you seen you will see 246 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: slack for performing at a Black gay pride event. Yeah, 247 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: why would you see slack for that? You you tell me, 248 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm asking you. He saw your tweet. You know, I 249 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's just a disconnect. I'm not 250 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: gonna understand that, you know what I mean. I think 251 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak. You know, in terms of the Black community, 252 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: there's a there's a stigma, and there's there's there's a 253 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: hate that goes along with being gay, right right, And 254 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: oftentimes in our language, to even um to I mean 255 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: the greater person to the lowest, we can degrade them. 256 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: We use gay. It's the adjective. And so that carries 257 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: on even into entertainment. So paint the picture for you. 258 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: Guy Brian who used to manage your fantasia, who's a 259 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: gay man, who's my friend. He said, hey, man, what 260 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: do you think about performing a gay pride in d C? 261 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: I said, yeah, well we kind I'm from DC. Yeah, 262 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: I said, I said, ship, we're kind of back. The 263 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: guy he said, they got this kind of bag. I'm 264 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: all the way right. And so we we get in 265 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: there and and the first thing you say, are you 266 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: gonna take your shirt off? And I said, you called me, 267 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: I'll do what I do. I do a thing I'm 268 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: not scared of im. I's not gonna rub off on 269 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: me because I had to do my show right. So 270 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: I go out there and I'm doing the first song right, 271 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: and as I'm singing my first song, I just kind 272 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: of noticed I'm scanning the crowd. You know, they don't 273 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: know how to receive me at this time. I'm not 274 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: knowing I'm the first straight mail artists to ever do it. 275 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. I'm not knowing the energy and 276 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: my understanding why all these questions are, you know, surrounding this. 277 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: So I get out there and you know, I finished 278 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: my first song and the explosions going out bad bad. 279 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: They're like, all right, don't like this, y'all trying to 280 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: masculinity and saying the sisters don't turn out now. I 281 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: came to see you all and they said yeah. And 282 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: it was at that moment that they understood, like, I 283 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 1: have no judgment for you in your lifestyle. I only 284 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: have love for you as a human being. You also 285 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: are the reason why I'm able to feed my family, 286 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: So I love you for that and I'm gonna I'm 287 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: gonna entertain. Ain't the same way I would entertain on 288 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: any stage, whether it's a bunch of girls in the 289 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: front row a bunch of guys in the front room. 290 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm securing my ship. I'm secure. I don't feel like 291 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk into a game room and all of 292 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: something become gay. Right, And so when the backlash comes 293 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: and people are saying, oh, he must be gay, I 294 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,959 Speaker 1: can laugh at that because that's not the worst thing 295 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: you can call me, right, because I don't see it 296 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: is that. So I just did Pride in Dallas. Where's 297 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: the bag? As I got fans there? Do they got 298 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: the bag? I'm on the way. You sure you want 299 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: to take picture? You goddamn r I don't want to 300 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: take pictures, and ain't really if it ain't photographs, they 301 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: don't hit the ground there in full support. So and 302 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: I told him, I said, once we get out of 303 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: once we get out of this hate space and are 304 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: willing to have a real sit down and try to 305 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: understand each other and do it in love, it's always 306 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: gonna be this barrier between so many things. So for me, 307 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: I leave with love. Man, I don't care what it 308 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: is like. We had Jason Lee on here um and 309 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I had to ask him the question that we asked 310 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: everyone else. You know what I mean, because if not, 311 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been that. You know what the question is, 312 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:20,679 Speaker 1: does he eat? Ask? Wow, you want to go? Just 313 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 1: talk to me. Brother. I'm here on the club. I 314 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: hate the same Jason Lee's a whole different kind of ass, 315 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: remember I mean Harry answer, He's right, but the club, 316 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 1: so obviously you say you do eat as just be clear, 317 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: woman's asked, woman's woman. I just want to keep this clear. 318 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: They're gonna try to find a way. So we also 319 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: had Trick Daddy on here, and Trick Daddy said he 320 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: not only he enjoys being an ass, eat a booty gang, 321 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: eat the moody and I he said, he got legs 322 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: up and everything. I said, No, no legs up, he said, 323 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: and he asked you to. But Trick, Trick Daddy is 324 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: the president, and we are members in this cart not 325 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: always legs up. We don't always. You know what I 326 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: was gonna be that compromise up a little bit. You 327 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, This scotch up. What I'm saying, 328 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know you chest no, no, And 329 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: he wears a bit, you wear a bit no nothing, 330 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, no, listen, man, it's a man 331 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: and a woman, you know, being consensual about things that 332 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, there are there are lines 333 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: draw hey, don't just don't know. No no, poke pokey. 334 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: He toned that down, you know what I'm saying. You know, 335 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: but the first time it did happen to me, I was, 336 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know why I'm doing this. 337 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: I was in my Susie Rodeo and I'm sorry, Susie 338 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: Rodo Suo rodeo. You know how long ago that was 339 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: radio and I was thinking the older woman at the time, 340 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: and she was like me, you know, show your first time, 341 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: my first time. You got the first time. Eventually, that's 342 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: how I got, you know, brought into this world. Check 343 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: that he world. And uh and and you know, I 344 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, I haven't had my legs up on the 345 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: head resting it. You know, it's very tick It tickled 346 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 1: before I could actually enjoy it, right, so you know, 347 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: and and it's like wow, wow, wow, he re funked 348 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: up my child. A second he was on the road 349 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: and I told you, I can really went smoke weeds. 350 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: So only we would smoke weeds so I went to 351 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: his room. He just did not ask him. He's like 352 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: he was playing video games. He just went to turn 353 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: on the TV and he just he had his legs 354 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: on the TV on the because you know, yeah himself, 355 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: so take We don't know if you know. The show 356 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: was about giving out flower giving giving out flowers, showing 357 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: people to love while they are alive and while they stand, 358 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 1: and showing people how great they are. So no doubt, 359 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: we want to give your flowers live and flash being 360 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: what the hell you all lifetimes? A lifetime? We changed 361 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: the time fire. Thank you brother. So let me ask you. 362 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 1: Moving around, We're gonna get back to the later, you 363 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: know anything, So what do you what do you? What 364 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: do you still love about this game? It's that's changed 365 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: for me. Um before what I loved about this game 366 00:24:53,880 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: was everything that I had to offer, very selfish about 367 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: the way I was gonna sing to him, about the 368 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: way I was going to perform, by the way I 369 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: was going to write it and produce it and deliver 370 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: it me how I'm going to do it right. Every 371 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: every show, every time I wake up, I'm about to 372 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: kill these I'm like kill him right. And now it's 373 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: I can't wait to build up this next singer songwriter 374 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: producer so that they can go kill on R and 375 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: B's behalf. I can't wait to give everything that I 376 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: have to somebody else. That's what drives me now, because like, 377 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: what good is the game if it? If it dies 378 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: with me? You have to right and that, and that's 379 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 1: how you truly truly build. That's how you truly create 380 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: a legacy when your arms extend as far as humanly possible. 381 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: Right if an artist thirty years down the line says 382 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: all of this was made possible because one day Tank 383 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: gave me a call and said, I believe in you, 384 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: and we're going to make something great happen. I've done 385 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: my job. I've done my job because that that's my 386 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: true gift. My true gift is championing and supporting and 387 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: putting the battery. You can do it. I used to 388 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: have a kid, uh that used to sing backgrounds with 389 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: me my name and Luke James right, and and Luke 390 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: James just also live well, so you can live with me. 391 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: Man A said, first of all, you need to be 392 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: writing songs. You need to be doing all this stuff 393 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: like this is what you need to be doing. It's 394 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: the first song he wrote was on my albums. That 395 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: club and pain Right brought him in and we're singing back, 396 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: We're singing. He's on the road singing backgrounds with men. 397 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: I got my guys standing back there doing that thing. 398 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: And one day we're at the house. You're singing, going 399 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 1: back and forth, you know, sharpening the tools, and he 400 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: goes into this high active Mariot Carrie Slash. I was like, 401 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: it's like, NICKI, it's crazy. I said, this is what 402 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna go on my stage and 403 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you out and I'm gonna say if 404 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: Maxwell was here, what would he do? That kid? And 405 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: then I want you to go crazy? And this kid 406 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: stood at the front of my stage and almost took 407 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: over my entire show every night. I had to fight 408 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 1: to get my show back little James every night. But 409 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: I wanted him to do that. I wanted them to 410 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: scream and go crazy every time he touched that microphone. 411 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: Now he's a little James believed in that kid still, 412 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm looking to 413 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: build things bigger than me, and we did that for you. 414 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: Genuine m hmm, genuine. That was my next question. I 415 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: was about to say, what the hell happened to teach 416 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: superfess we get there, I'm fresh out of church to 417 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: let's let you interview some you know, I'm fresh from 418 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: prior rehearsal to the plane to l A. You know 419 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, at this time, the devil kind of 420 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: is still in the music. You know what I'm saying. 421 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: I was brainwashed to believe that this is the devil. Right, 422 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: it's no longer the devil. But we get to rehearsal 423 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: and I'm one of those overachievers. Before we get to 424 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: l A, I know every genuine song, top to bottom, 425 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: every harm No we were I was just there to 426 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: sing almost already done Pony number one platinum. I learned 427 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: every background part on his album, interludes everything. He walks 428 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: into rehearsal, he starts chewing some stuff up, you know, 429 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: just playing on the microphone, and we're back like I'm 430 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: gonna try another be Doobie out me like oh these 431 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: they started playing it like I'm like, yeah, we're ready. 432 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: He's so excited. He's like, I got to call this 433 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: background singers on the hall tour it's Mary on the tour. 434 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: It's Drew Hill on the tour. And I got the 435 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: calling singers. He calls the Leah. I got the best 436 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: singers on the tour. You better come see him. The 437 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: Lah comes to this to the rehearsal studio. Here's a 438 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: sing She's like, niggers cold. I come down. I get 439 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: to me to Lea for the first time, She's like, 440 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: what's your name? I was like Darrell. She's like, where 441 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: you from. I'm from such and such. You're really doing 442 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: with your real name because at the time only my 443 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: family knew my nickname. My name is out of the baby, 444 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: so I was just Durell at the time. You know 445 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This time, I'm twenty two and she's 446 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, she's just asking me questions like I'm the 447 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: main attraction. I don't know what this is the Lea 448 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: She's got on the outfit bros To tell me this 449 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: is the share the stomach is that. I'm like, this 450 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: is a liv and she's concerned about me. Right, And 451 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: about a week later, Alia fired two background singers and 452 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: hired me and another guy. You and and those two 453 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: um mainly genuine like Alia would say you dope. You're 454 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: like a one man Joe to see what you need 455 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: to do, like you gotta wear this, and then then 456 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: then you got the you got the song, focus on 457 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: the piano, but you need to throw some of that 458 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: edge like she was just just game me gave me 459 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: and Ginuine would sit sit with me at the top 460 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: of a theater, sold out theater, right and he was 461 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: standing there. He would watch his picture line and to 462 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: be a thousand girls in the picture line literally and 463 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: he would say, dog, I'm gonna take every one of 464 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: these picture dogs. That's what you gotta do. You wanna 465 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: be a style. You got to keep a die. If 466 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: the last one of them dig I'm gonna touch him all. 467 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: If last one of the last one of them, dog dog. 468 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: And I would watch him do this every night, left 469 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: no fan behind every night. This is what you gotta do, 470 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: taking things and you're writing songs. And then I got 471 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: to meet my favorite producer, Timberland, and me and Timberland 472 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: on the bus with my PVDPM keyboard making beats together 473 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: and he's like, take you talent, you got the sauce, 474 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: but you gotta do is you gotta do this. You 475 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: gotta do this, all these guys gaming me, gaming me, 476 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: gaming me, and then Ginuine did what gave me the 477 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: front of his stage. Go crazy, little brow. You talk 478 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: about you talk about the leftovers. Amen, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 479 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm the coldest wingman in history, in history. I carried 480 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: the foot locker bags. You know what I'm saying. I 481 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: carried the oak tree bags. I would be in the 482 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: middle of the mall buying the silver jewelry. You know 483 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: the sound I'm saying, the sterling silver sock to fit 484 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: in with Genuine. His wing men wouldn't look so crazy. 485 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: And when Genuine went out and he needed that wing 486 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: we got supers there. I'm staring. I'm starine head. We 487 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: got him out. You would have going on the power 488 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: of a laminate the r late with the wine, Oh 489 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: my god, with Genuine. We'd love to go see him. 490 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: I would love for you to see him. You got 491 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: any friends, You got any friends? So that's that's Genuine. 492 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: Let's let's cross over in the t G T. Let's 493 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: do it. Let's get into that. What then happened? Man, 494 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna blame all of us, you said all of us, 495 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: all of us, as I put most of the blame 496 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: on Tyrese, and then and then some more and now 497 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: some of the blame on Genuine, and then I'll get 498 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: back to myself. I gotta you know, I'm I'm here 499 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: with you. Never make myself look better than those guys. 500 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: This is just the true Okay, okay, Um. What happened 501 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: the first time around is we fought to make that album. 502 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: It was a hell of a process. Yeah no, no, 503 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: no's like literally like the only thing that kept me 504 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: from fighting Ti Reese, like you know what I'm saying, 505 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: like really like like slamming, slamming him on top of 506 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: his head was it was that guy right there. Yeah, 507 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: my manager. He was like, you can't go over there 508 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,719 Speaker 1: and fight. I said, why can't I can't. I can 509 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: go to his house. We can fight, get it off 510 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: our chest, and then make some more music. But you 511 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: are not gonna text me text me like like I'm 512 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: not a grown like Tyrese on the text chain. Oh oh, 513 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: he greasy on the text shape. He'd go there on 514 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: the tech shape right and as soon as I say, cool, 515 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm coming to fuck you up. While we always want 516 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: to fight because all the fighting words. Okay, who's on 517 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: the text change though? Me? Genuine and tyrese. It's the 518 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: craziest check. And then you'll see I say, yea, I 519 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't do this. That y'all better than this, said no, 520 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna him up absolutely um. But that was just 521 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: to Alpha Like me and Tie are both capitalcorns, and 522 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: we bumped heads every step of the way. I'm way first, 523 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: he's he's the December thirty one. We bumped heads every 524 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: step of the way. That's my brother, so I can 525 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 1: I can say, I can talk about anybody else talking 526 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: about um. And I just felt like he was doing 527 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: too much. Why I was mad? He knows this. I 528 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: was mad. I was like, listen, I make albums. I 529 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: make bodies of work. I have classic albums. I am 530 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: still doing this ship at a high level. To let 531 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 1: me handle the music. Your cash. As the biggest star 532 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: in our group, I will give way to you handling 533 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: the business. Use that Tyree's blockbuster billion dollar box office 534 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: cache to get us the best deal imaginable, all the 535 00:34:53,360 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: fast and furiousness. Rightious, He's furious, come furious, but let 536 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: me handle this music. This is what the funk I do. 537 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: And he wouldn't get out of my way, kept stepping 538 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 1: on my toes. He likes to do boot camps. I 539 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: like to lock in with two or two or three producers, 540 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: a couple of writers and make magic. People like a 541 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: thousand producers and writers making I don't. I just don't 542 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: make music like that. I'm from the Jimmy Jam and 543 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: Terry Lewis from Teddy Riley, from the Timberland, the Doctor Dre. 544 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: I'm from those schools where we lock in and we 545 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: find it and we make magic. That's what I'm from. 546 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: But but his process is not wrong, just not my process. 547 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: So our arguments and our beef was more so men 548 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: who have been successful trying to figure out a way 549 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: being successful individually trying to figure out a way to 550 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: be successful together, right, And so neither one of us 551 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: wanted to bow down to either person's process. Your process, 552 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: it's not better than mind. Your process is not better 553 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: than mine. Well, then here we are, and that's what 554 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: made it difficult. Finally get the album done. Over time, 555 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: album finally comes out, we do some shows overseas, I 556 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: think seven shows overseas. We do like three shows in 557 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: the US, and again we have a movie start in 558 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: the group. He gets called away to do a movie 559 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: which we couldn't control because you know what, Paul passed 560 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: and got rest his soul um it from a scheduling standpoint, 561 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: it got crazy for for Tie and everybody that was 562 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: a part of the franchise, And so when that responsibility called, 563 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 1: he had to answer, and so that threw us off 564 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: on the first one. Getting into this second one looks 565 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: like you're passionate about this one. Yeah, yeah, I'm passionate 566 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: about this one. I want to say this so that 567 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: everybody can get on their ass right. T g T 568 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: the second time around is bigger than music. Bigger than 569 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: music in terms of it as it relates to us. 570 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: It's for the It's for the R and B universe 571 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: as a collective and for kings as a collective to 572 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,399 Speaker 1: see the Kings can come together and do real ship, 573 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: creating a blue merin what what what I think is 574 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: happening right now is as stressful as that process was. 575 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 1: Nobody feels like they have to inconvenience themselves anymore to 576 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: do it, and I blame that on people being rich. 577 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: Is rich? Genuine is rich? Do they need t g T. No, 578 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to them what the fans needed. But 579 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: the R and B universe needs t g T. For 580 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: the love of what we are, for the legacy of 581 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: what we're building. That's what t g T is about. 582 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: This is my last album, but t g T would 583 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: be my absolute last album if we did that right, 584 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: because the people who are watching us, what is the message? 585 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: What is the message we send? After one album? Arguments 586 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 1: online and nothing after what did we do? We heard 587 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: ourselves more than we helped ourselves. We believe that with 588 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: all this ship after the fact, I mean, people may 589 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: be able to separate the music from the foodsgenes that 590 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: we went through. I respect it. It was one of 591 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 1: the greatest R and B albums ever created. I will 592 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: say that. But we gotta finish right. We gotta finish right, man, 593 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: all the way down to the wire. It's fourth quarter, 594 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: last three minutes left. What are we doing? So that's 595 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: where I'm at? Right, can give me some more You 596 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: got it? S yeah, you send it to both of us, 597 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: asks just me, okay, I got it? Boom. You want 598 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: to play it on the rules? The rules are no 599 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: politically correct answers. Ship. If you say both or neither, 600 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: we all take a shot. So it's it's a it's 601 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: multiple or two. So we're gonna do this for two nights. 602 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: It's one. Are these shots? You say one? We're good? 603 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: Nobody drinks say both are neither. We're drinking. We drink 604 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: with you, don't drink by yourself. We drink with you. Yeah, 605 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: we all drink. Y'all can drink too. Yeah. I felt 606 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: like I said at first, But as long as you're 607 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: with me, are you ready? Absolutely love my shot up 608 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: normally see them a little my shot up. Now you're 609 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: all correct? This is this is Japanese that you're on 610 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: right here. This is Dominican mamajuana right here in the 611 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: national nations nations right here. I would have the day 612 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: later on your thing. Yes, yes, spot me a mama pup. Yes, 613 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: poor lightly. It is a long game. Snoop Dogg with 614 00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: jay z A. We drink it. We could drink. We 615 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: could drink. I mean, unless you gotta answer it sounds 616 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: like a drink. That sounds like a drink to me, 617 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: ship both. Okay, you started off early. You didn't do 618 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're gonna askwer for this morning. 619 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: I was a little too much. Take good time, take 620 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 1: good time. At no I've been I've lost a couple 621 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: of times. It happens Chris Brown or Usha Chris Brown. 622 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know what she was gonna go 623 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: with it. There trade songs or Jeremiah trade songs? Podcast 624 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: or radio you got a podcast? Okay, this one, I 625 00:40:51,400 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna say. Rianna Beyonce Missy or 626 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: Eve Missy? Keep sweat, Johnny Gil keep sweat. He played 627 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: the game for real or Kanye for Real? Fab for 628 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: Jada kiss high Beverages, Who yeah solo. I don't like 629 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: what's happening right now. I don't know that's addressed that 630 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: you you you're making a face like you just did 631 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: a whole shots like this coming. This is, this is 632 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: it's that whiskey, y'all. You have something that I don't 633 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: know a little top of this is trust me do 634 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: this all things? All right? All right? Um we are okay? 635 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: Mariah or Janet Janet? I gotta ask this why why 636 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: on that one times? In totality the overall you know 637 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: what I mean sing sing Janet as like the complete 638 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: performer that she is. Um, she just is what she is, 639 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? From from a dancer to 640 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying the full Circle's Bust the rhymes are Eminem. 641 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 1: You know what I gotta go with what I listened to? Okay, 642 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: bust the rhymes? You want to explain now, it would 643 00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 1: be good. I think that. Here's what I think people 644 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: have to figure out. If you've never seen anybody trying 645 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,640 Speaker 1: to follow bus the rhymes on stage on stage, oh yeah, 646 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: you won't understand this. You do not want any smoke 647 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: with Buster rhymes and split Star when them songs come 648 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,240 Speaker 1: on and start going back to back to back to back. 649 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: Now to the Eminem hamlet in the right setting and 650 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: the verses in the right setting. Let's let's let's let's 651 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: we we want this question. Let's say versus Buster. First, Eminem, 652 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: what is happening? Buster? Your face? Anybody has an opportunity 653 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: to jump on that man with Eminem, with Eminem, it's Buster, 654 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: it's Buster because he had game on here. Game said 655 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: that he's better than Eminem. The game is better. He's 656 00:43:53,560 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, and what rapping? Okay, you have to 657 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: believe that you are the best. That's how this works. It, 658 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 1: that's it. I will never I will never talk down 659 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: on the man believing in himself. He believed it to period. 660 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I will say, I 661 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: will say I think again in terms of what I 662 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: listened to, game song's on the playlist, So just no, no, 663 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: no Monica or Brandy, Brandy, digital or analog. Yeah, Toby 664 00:44:52,520 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: Lanes on the weekend. Whoa, oh sorry about the weekend. Wow, 665 00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: that was crazy. Take the shot. Nope, stuff, Nope, I'm 666 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm gonna I'm gonna go with overall artistry. 667 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: In terms of tool bag, I'm gonna go with Tori. 668 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That was I ain't been broken the mitt 669 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's go keep thriller or off the wall. 670 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: Go ahead, get my shot, right, Yeah, I don't want 671 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: to do this. We gotta play with it. We gotta 672 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: play with it. Give it to you, Okay, I say, 673 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: I think, I say I respect Oh Dr Dre or 674 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: pup Daddy. Yeah, it's starting to feel like they are. 675 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: It's starting to feel like they leone. Um. You don't 676 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: criteria whatever, your criterias stop so much. He don't give 677 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: you can answer every way you want. I wanna take 678 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: that shot. That'll get the whether. You gotta get these 679 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 1: shots ready, man, Because he was going through them like 680 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was having a good time and then 681 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,720 Speaker 1: I just just hit a wall. Hit the wall, Puff 682 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: and Dr Dre. I mean talking about guys bro Like 683 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: you're talking about brand and headphones and liquor and it 684 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: just gets billions. It's crazy. Marvin Gaye, Smokey Robs, Marvin Gaye, 685 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 1: Al Green, Teddy Penagraph, Al Green, the grit Stone, Jerry 686 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: Curl Baptist preaching, Womanized and gens. I'm not sure makes 687 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: makes some noise to that. That's when the music music. 688 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: It's crazy, right, that's a little The day I felt terrible, 689 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,359 Speaker 1: I said, it's kind of funny because as you're going 690 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: through this ship, you're making the best music ever. And 691 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: it was like you're hurt. It's making my ears happy. 692 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 1: That's what pain does. That's what pain does. Yeah, please 693 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: don't go. It was a real song. Maybe I deserve 694 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: it was a real song. That's my notes, chill sucking 695 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: up my notes. Mm hmm. I've never known this question. 696 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson or Prince Michael Jackson? Have you met either 697 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: one of them? The day I was supposed to go 698 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: meet Michael what what the day Jamie was Jamie was 699 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: taking all of us out out to uh out to 700 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 1: the ranch. Jamie Fox I'm sorry, Jamie FOXX was taking 701 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: us all out to right, Jamie, I'm not like we 702 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: was just noticed. I was singing backgrounds. Okay, all right, 703 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 1: So you supposed to Jackson, Yes, I was supposed to me. 704 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: He was going. They were rehearsing next right right next 705 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 1: door to us, and then they told Fox bring your crow, 706 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 1: come on down. Michael would love to have you guys, 707 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 1: like you're just calling Fox just now. Is either Jamie Jamie, 708 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,320 Speaker 1: It's not both. So if you say, you say, Jamie, 709 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,160 Speaker 1: motherfucker you got it's a hard package. And I think 710 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: he's got that, you know, trademark or something. Oh that's crazy. 711 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 1: Holy Okay, Bobby Brown, I'll be sure Bobby Brown don't 712 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: do that. I need to explain because the way you 713 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: said that Bobby Brown is is one of the kings, 714 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: one of the kings. Like when Bobby Brown left New Edition, 715 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,879 Speaker 1: who was the greatest group and probably the greatest group 716 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: blueprint of all times? Right, Bobby Brown went told to 717 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,280 Speaker 1: toll with New Edition every night by himself, by himself, 718 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 1: and what I gotta do. Listen and in d C. 719 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, at the Capital Center. He 720 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: gave them problems. What do you mean he went up 721 00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:35,359 Speaker 1: against them. It was like he was right before new edition. 722 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: I'll be sure somebody before, I'll be sure. Then I'll 723 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:43,320 Speaker 1: be sure. Then Bobby Brown, then new edition. You know, 724 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 1: Bobby went crazy because Bobby went to that thing. Bobby, 725 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 1: Bobby went to that ship. You ever read his book 726 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: when um he said that he fried cocaine chicken, chicken 727 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: and cocaine. I did not read. Did you say how 728 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: it tastes? He kept the rest of no one else 729 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,279 Speaker 1: who said, well, supposedly in his book goes somewhere he 730 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 1: has so much cocaine that he didn't know it was cocaine, 731 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,919 Speaker 1: and he thought it was flower at one point. Yeah, 732 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 1: it's accident. And he didn't. You don't you make think 733 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:25,800 Speaker 1: he didn't. And I want to hear the after. You 734 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,800 Speaker 1: know what, that's not the best. You know, it's like 735 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 1: you know your real nick. I never thought of that. 736 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: I didn't taste it's because number Oh god, that's that's 737 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 1: crazy right there. We'll talk later. Oldest read it or 738 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:52,400 Speaker 1: Sam Cup, Sam Cup, Stevie Wonder, Luther vandros Stevie Wonder. 739 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: I think Stevie see, huh. You can see sometimes what 740 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: you're looking at it sometimes driving license huh. I think 741 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 1: Stevie got Stephen can see sometimes I don't know how 742 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: he does. I mess Stevie a bunch of times. Stevie 743 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: gave me a recording kit. One time, me and Stevie 744 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: sets out the side on the piano on the keyboard 745 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: before singing lyrics. He's singing my lyrics and I messed 746 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 1: his up. It's cool, It's fine. Apologize, you know it's 747 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: that apologize. I apologize the ultimate Frost. He's flawsing on 748 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: us on the spot, like Stephen, don't walk up to 749 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: you all the time and sit next to you on 750 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: the keyboartist and I know all of your songs and 751 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: just start singing your lyrics and I was I choked, 752 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: Shot said, he wrote in the elevator with Stevie and 753 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: Stevie press but the story out there. Let's get love 754 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: the frost. You sat down and play the piano together. 755 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: Let's just be clear you think you can see the 756 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: piano because this is this is weird. I'm not even 757 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 1: like I mean, at that point, you don't have to 758 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: see when you can say like that, I don't have 759 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: to see the real life. You think he can see though, 760 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 1: for real I think he can see sometimes, right, because 761 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: how you notice? I think that because other sentences, other 762 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,439 Speaker 1: senses are so heightened, right, and be and being able 763 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: to understand the sensibility of shapes and sizes of things, 764 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,760 Speaker 1: and and counting in the math of things, the ability 765 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: to visualize what's in front of you. It's possible to 766 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: see shades. It's possible to be able to from a 767 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,879 Speaker 1: sonic standpoint. Right, You've seen Batman when they were using 768 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 1: the phones to pin uh pin uh what do they 769 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: called it, with the with the with the submarines, which 770 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: is right, And so there's an idea of sonar existing 771 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: within us, and so that will create the structure or 772 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: whatever space that you're in or whatever thing that you touch. Right, 773 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: possible can he see switch lanes? No, No, Stevie can 774 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: switch lanes. This is nothing, Shock said, Shock said, he 775 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 1: will were in the elevator. He didn't say that he 776 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: was in there. He just seek Stevie like they lived 777 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: in the same building and they both walked in and 778 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,399 Speaker 1: Shock because he didn't want to say that, and Stevie said, 779 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: when Shaq walked out, all right later Diesel like he 780 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 1: was a pressing the button to it obviously, but this 781 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: is you can google it on line. U Sho accuses 782 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,760 Speaker 1: that Stevie could actually see the way too. They figure 783 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: it's Stevie. He's been, he's been to professionally understand how 784 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: that works. That's true. Look, they just hit me with Stevie. 785 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: ONEA gave Darryl Dwkin his chocolate done the nickname. What 786 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,400 Speaker 1: he gave Darryl Dawkins his chocolate thunder nickname? How do 787 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:06,000 Speaker 1: you know he's hunk man. I'm sure somebody told him 788 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: Darrel Dawkins. That's that's a darker guy, we said, oldest 789 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,319 Speaker 1: ready man, Sam Cook? Right, do we skip over Erica 790 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 1: about doing at least? Yeah? You spose I do all 791 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 1: at least your kids about you pussy instance, No, I wouldn't. 792 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 1: What do you mean, I don't have it? You don't 793 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: want to support the pussy. I support pussy. You don't 794 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 1: know that, Yeah, pussy home good, it's called the whole 795 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: product line. Like, I don't know. I don't know how 796 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: to explain that to my wife that I brought some 797 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: pussy home. You know what I'm saying. I don't. I don't. 798 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: That's a good point. You know what. I'm like, bab 799 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: I got this got it might be like, what is so? 800 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,560 Speaker 1: So you want to know what her? You want me 801 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: to put it off so I can. You can be 802 00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:24,879 Speaker 1: around supporting? Are you support? It's not a goodly ship. 803 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: That was good. I had no idea who are new 804 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 1: addition we did? We did a new addition or the 805 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 1: Jackson five? Fuck? I have to go with a new addition. 806 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 1: You really love new addition, love new addition. I was 807 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 1: raised on that album. My love for R and B 808 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: grew with any heartbreak, you know, going to that tour, 809 00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 1: my my first concert, asking my father, please can you 810 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 1: take me to see a New Edition? We need a yes, Yes, 811 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: that's the blueprint for me. And then from New Edition 812 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: spawned every other group that you can think of at 813 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: this point, from the Instincts, the Whole Boyfriend before that, 814 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: really right after Jackson five, when did they come out 815 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,359 Speaker 1: it seventies Yeah, I'm seventy seven, I'm seventy six. Yes, 816 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:37,880 Speaker 1: So New Edition became the blueprint for every successful group thereafter. 817 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: The blueprint nothing different. This is how we're gonna rehearse. 818 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 1: So we're sing this is how we're gonna do it. 819 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 1: We need five the whole thing, the whole thing to 820 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: be able to do that. Yea. And they're the blueprint. 821 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: God damn, it makes a noise. New addition. So besides, 822 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: besides new edition, who else were you listening to? Really 823 00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:05,760 Speaker 1: young Jodac. I can see it, I can see it, Jodac. 824 00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,879 Speaker 1: Now that's a blueprint. Yeah. That was like the bad 825 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,759 Speaker 1: Boys are someone's well, Bobby was the bad boy, and 826 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 1: then and then uh, and then the the three UM 827 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: B B D. Of course the first the first R 828 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: and B and hip hop group, which new edition. It's 829 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,280 Speaker 1: a new edition but in a spawn off, but never 830 00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: had been done before. They were the first, so they 831 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: had kind of an edge to them. If you want 832 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,440 Speaker 1: to say that, you know what I'm saying. And then 833 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: there's no addition you have Jodac my god, Yeah, we 834 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: just take a shout to join. That's because that's because 835 00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: so that was my makeup. When I would go to 836 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: churches over you know, all over the d m V. 837 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 1: They'd be like, you sound like a gospel Jelasy, Like 838 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, you sound like a gospel 839 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:16,320 Speaker 1: Jeltacy or r Kelly, like, you just got you know, Kelly, Yeah, 840 00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 1: let's just let's R Kelly, He said, Robert Kelly's blueprint. 841 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 1: I get it. Yeah, I get it. I understand. But 842 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:44,000 Speaker 1: there's there's absolutely no way that now they are the guests, right, 843 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: There's absolutely no way that I can dig into my 844 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 1: musical DNA and strip away Joe to see and R. 845 00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 1: Kelly and Brian mynight in baby Faces. It's absolutely impossible. 846 00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,680 Speaker 1: Everyone else is like, we get it, we understand, But like, 847 00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 1: I still watched The Cosby Show, And how does it 848 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 1: make you feel when you watch it? Do you do 849 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,600 Speaker 1: the lessons? Do you see Did you see the Bill 850 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 1: Cosby documentary? We got to talk about Bill. It's cold, 851 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 1: We got to talk about that. It has the same 852 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,160 Speaker 1: the documentary. I saw the Rob documentary, which scared me. 853 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: You scared me. Did you work with Kelly? Right? Indirectly? 854 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 1: I did a song for Sharissa that R. Kelly ended 855 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 1: up featuring on SO and I produced and wrote it 856 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 1: and I Kelly got on it and sang so. Indirectly, 857 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 1: UM hung out with him a couple of times. Play 858 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: some basketball. You want to hear that? Would like to 859 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 1: hear that? Kelly? There I'm gonna try to I'm gonna 860 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,160 Speaker 1: try to make this short because it's it's three parts, right, 861 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 1: all right. So we're having a celebrity basketball game. Okay, 862 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: first time I meet Rob. Let's go back to that 863 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 1: first time I meet R Kelly was with Tyrese. We 864 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 1: call up, come outside because Tyrese's Tyres is the is 865 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 1: the fan club president of r K. Did not know 866 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:27,080 Speaker 1: this fan club president him right now in jail number 867 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 1: R Kelly. What do you need tywheek Tyrees? I thought 868 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: I was the big R Kelly fan. Tyrese trumps me 869 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: by a thousand, okay, big of Tyres. So we the 870 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:50,320 Speaker 1: with the W and uh where is this the W? 871 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: And uh yeah? Westwood, Westwood, Westwood, Yes, and this is 872 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:58,920 Speaker 1: the first time I meet R. Kelly at the W. 873 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,920 Speaker 1: At the W, Kelly gets off the bus, walks over 874 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 1: to me, gives me a hug, and the only thing 875 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 1: he says to me is a devil dead or alive, 876 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: can't keep us apart. And I know what you meant 877 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: by that. You're trying to say that y'all have smoked 878 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 1: no no for my bad. The first time you met him, 879 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 1: he said, king of devil dead or alive, keep us apart. 880 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,200 Speaker 1: I know he was talking about. I know who he 881 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 1: was talking about. Somebody was talking about, y'all know, somebody 882 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 1: who was just keeping us apart. Because I was signed 883 01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,320 Speaker 1: under the idea that I was the next R Kelly 884 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: by the person who made R Kelly m So I 885 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 1: knew exactly what he was talking about. But that was 886 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:58,360 Speaker 1: then separate ways and seen him again since cut to Orlando. 887 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 1: I think it's All Star or Super Bowl celebrity basketball game. 888 01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Chris Brown and celebrity friends versus R Kelly and celebrity friends. 889 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 1: That's it. They're announcing Chris Brown's celebrity team. It's a 890 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 1: bunch of celebrities. It's us, right, all of us. Our 891 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,080 Speaker 1: Kelly comes running in with this team. They announced the 892 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 1: celebrities for the R. Kelly team. Give it up for 893 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: R Kelly Playball. It is R Kelly and seven Team 894 01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:43,280 Speaker 1: goods fresh shout. None of their clothes match shoes. Is 895 01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:49,000 Speaker 1: fucked up like a movie. These these guys are not 896 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 1: basketball players. They are criminals for sure. I know the 897 01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 1: criminal outfit. I know it. I know it. The game starts, 898 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,000 Speaker 1: I said, I got kills part of me. I as 899 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,080 Speaker 1: we needed the fans to understand what you're saying. You're 900 01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 1: saying you're guarding. I'm checking our Kelly. Okay, yes, let's 901 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: go right r Kelly. Kelly decides to cut to the left. 902 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,120 Speaker 1: I get a pick upside my head, like a pick, 903 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 1: like a pick. Okay, bomb, okay, okay, boom upside my 904 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 1: head one of them, I said, got me on that one. 905 01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:51,080 Speaker 1: That's got some men still checking out Killy still checking 906 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 1: out Kelly. Kelly cut boom, boom. Two picks from sad goon. 907 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:09,960 Speaker 1: I said, hallelujah. I'm trying to keep my ship together. 908 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: So no feeling right. Kelly gets the ball, come to 909 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: the basket, turn to go with him. Boom said going again, 910 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 1: same guy. I said, cool. If that's how the funk 911 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:34,959 Speaker 1: y'all want to play, that's how the funk we're gonna play. Yes, okay, 912 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 1: I play football. I played basketball because I can. I'm 913 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 1: a football player. I'm gonna lying back on the running back. 914 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 1: I said, let's play. I proceeded to run every one 915 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:51,800 Speaker 1: of these motherfucker's the funk over every player. I'm talking 916 01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: cash ship to kill. Yeah, you got these motherfucker's trying 917 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 1: to pick me. I'm you don't want he coming out 918 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 1: trying to check me, or you can't check me on 919 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:09,520 Speaker 1: this show game, this trash check this thing to the 920 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 1: funk out of here the whole game. I'm going crazy. 921 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 1: The first half. It gets to a point to where 922 01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 1: t I fresh Out comes out of the stands and says, hey, Tank, 923 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,560 Speaker 1: you gotta keep a cool head, bro, you gotta you 924 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,600 Speaker 1: gotta keep a cool I said, I'm in my mind, 925 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 1: you just gotta. And then I'm thinking, like, am I 926 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 1: that bad? That a hand freshout of freshout of Prinson 927 01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: to tell me to come down. I'm gone. Though, second 928 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 1: half comes, we're about to win the game. Our current 929 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 1: it makes a shot, they give him thirty points. I'm leaded, 930 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 1: while Wayne Williams, I'm cussing him the funk out. I'm 931 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,800 Speaker 1: cussing our Kelly out. I'm cussing his gooms out there 932 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,680 Speaker 1: like tanking a person. That's how we gotta play with 933 01:05:53,800 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 1: our funck y'all. And Rob I'm oh kiss the ball. 934 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,760 Speaker 1: Two sets of stuff, win the game, Get in the 935 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,840 Speaker 1: funk out of here, get them out of here. Who Assi, 936 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm bare. My people don't know that side 937 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:23,760 Speaker 1: of him. Guy. They leave never see R. Kelly again, 938 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:25,960 Speaker 1: never see him again. But that's on my mind. I'm 939 01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,880 Speaker 1: pissed R. Kelly for the rest of the time. That's 940 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 1: how you make you know what I'm saying. That's how 941 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,920 Speaker 1: you make real enemies. On the basketball court, right, that 942 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,440 Speaker 1: was some whole ass ship niggas just picking for you 943 01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: all game. Nikos would catch the rebound up under the 944 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:39,800 Speaker 1: basketball court and throw it back to him so he 945 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 1: could shoot. That's how they play. Kills gets the ball, 946 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 1: anybody else shoots, somebody get sucked up. That's how he plays. 947 01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 1: Cut to We're in Chicago on some T G T 948 01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 1: business again, ty reeses are all things are Kelly? He 949 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,520 Speaker 1: got He like, look, man, Rob really wants you to 950 01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,600 Speaker 1: come by the gym. You know what I'm saying. Just 951 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,560 Speaker 1: you know that bygones be bygones, you know, make fun 952 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 1: Rob Man. I tell him, I said that, No, don't 953 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 1: be like that tank. You know the Kings, Yeah, the 954 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,800 Speaker 1: King just want to haul at you. The King. Why 955 01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 1: are you calling him the king? First of all, he 956 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's the kid, he the King. But anyway, 957 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: just right right, what are we talking about? Right? So 958 01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,520 Speaker 1: I was like, he finally talking to me, and so 959 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 1: I was like, out, go for the tapes, or this 960 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,320 Speaker 1: is after the tapes, this is before the case for 961 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 1: the case for the tapes. You know the tape. You 962 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 1: know that was like the people want on bootleg after 963 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,280 Speaker 1: the tape. After that was going there all expect that. 964 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:48,439 Speaker 1: So he was he wasn't convicted, right, I can't judge 965 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,080 Speaker 1: him anyway, solus. Plus, you still want to bust his 966 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 1: ass and I still want to bust So we get 967 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,840 Speaker 1: to the gym, right, nobody. I definitely told this part 968 01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:58,280 Speaker 1: of the store. I leave this part out, but you 969 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: know we're here. So we walk in and as soon 970 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 1: as he walking to the gym, I'm stone wall because 971 01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: it's just me and tires. I know it's killed. I 972 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,160 Speaker 1: know he got his gunes with him. Know what I'm saying, 973 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm ready for whatever it is, what it is. Right, 974 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,240 Speaker 1: So soon as I walk in the gym, walking in 975 01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 1: with my face on, yeah, ni, he like this tank, 976 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 1: Come on man, you know I love you. Man, Come here, man, 977 01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,640 Speaker 1: come here, man. And he go up to embraced me 978 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 1: and he starts tickling me. What the fun? Now, here's 979 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 1: the problem with that? Again? I'm really ticklish. So I'm 980 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 1: like stop. Yes, yes, stop, you don't. It's that kind 981 01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:45,600 Speaker 1: of on it's embarrassing moment, A tickling me, right. I 982 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:47,080 Speaker 1: said it was his way of making friends, and he's like, 983 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,880 Speaker 1: oh my god. But he was like, yeah, this that's 984 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,320 Speaker 1: how you got a comment that you gotta tickling because 985 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: just take a funk, you up the tank. I have 986 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,680 Speaker 1: no idea, girl, No, I'm not gonna do this with 987 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 1: you anyway. I've been here so anyway, this is R 988 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:12,080 Speaker 1: Kelly's way of trying to get back at me. He 989 01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:16,000 Speaker 1: put me on the opposite team. R Kelly's rules in 990 01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 1: the gym is when he wins, he plays next. When 991 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 1: he loses, he plays next. He sounds like rules to 992 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: me at all Y's world. It's world. He never right. 993 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:36,679 Speaker 1: He put me on every opposing team. Now the first game, 994 01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm going crazy like that. It is what it is, right, 995 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: So I'm going I'm going to ham on him. But 996 01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:48,080 Speaker 1: then I stopped and I checked myself. By the way, 997 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,920 Speaker 1: the first game you won, right, First I checked myself. 998 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, and in in in real life, 999 01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 1: I respect this man in real life. He is the 1000 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: king of R and B. In real life. Yes, some 1001 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:09,680 Speaker 1: athletically superior. I'm younger, he's older, right, Let let let 1002 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,760 Speaker 1: me let my older do do his thing. And so 1003 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,439 Speaker 1: you let him win for the rest of the rest 1004 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 1: of the games. I let him win. I was like, 1005 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 1: you know what it is? What he'll make a shot? Kills, 1006 01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 1: I said, shot right there. I can't, boy, what do 1007 01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:27,920 Speaker 1: you shoot that from? You shot that from Manica? I 1008 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:32,479 Speaker 1: allow you a better man. Listen, I'm not done. Maybe 1009 01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,840 Speaker 1: the ticklings something you over. I think that's what it did. 1010 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 1: It definitely worked him. I think he knows me. Cut 1011 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,680 Speaker 1: to brother Jake Valentine comes to town. He's always my ringer, right, 1012 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,679 Speaker 1: and I said, listen, man, Kills wantus to come play 1013 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,599 Speaker 1: basketball with him tonight. I feel like we're back cool again, right. 1014 01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,880 Speaker 1: He's like, man, I'm not going to play with Kels. 1015 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,640 Speaker 1: I played real basketball. I say, I know, but you 1016 01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,720 Speaker 1: know it's it's the King. Like that reason now it's 1017 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 1: the King. You know, we get to go who like, 1018 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 1: just you know, we'll play, but you don't gotta really 1019 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,559 Speaker 1: gotta play, like just be cool. He's like, just, man, 1020 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 1: I don't want the part that please please. So Jake said, 1021 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm coming, let's go. So we're gonna pull up at 1022 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 1: the gym with kels kel see me this time. Hey tanke, 1023 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,200 Speaker 1: how you doing. Man, Good to see you. I said, 1024 01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 1: that's my manager. Jay Valenceine said, your manager. He looked 1025 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:30,479 Speaker 1: like you goddamn son. I said, yeah, he's aging and black. 1026 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:32,560 Speaker 1: You know they on age. You know what I'm saying. Like, So, 1027 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,640 Speaker 1: we starts to playing right and I'm telling j I'm like, 1028 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: j be cool. You look at him. You don't think 1029 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,680 Speaker 1: he getting ready to do what he get ready to do. Well, 1030 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna do it. I don't know where this is gone. 1031 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:52,519 Speaker 1: I'm going. We're sitting there. We played refused. Kelly win 1032 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 1: was the first game and he starts talking cash Ship 1033 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 1: told you whole asked niggas from l A like y'all 1034 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:05,280 Speaker 1: like that. This shottown nigga, this shottown you. You niggas 1035 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 1: ain't Oh, He's calling us everything out of the book. 1036 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,120 Speaker 1: Jake walks over to me and says, I'm not losing 1037 01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:18,639 Speaker 1: the next game. Shit, come down the court, next very 1038 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 1: first player. The next game, Jake got the ball. Three, Chuck, 1039 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,160 Speaker 1: come down the very next place, spending in the circle. Three, 1040 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:33,360 Speaker 1: Come down the next place to the hold the funk up. 1041 01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:40,640 Speaker 1: Who got the pretty nigger? What do you mean you 1042 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,519 Speaker 1: get the funk out, you get the fun in? He's 1043 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: so we won that game. I said, Jay, are you 1044 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 1: good now? He said, I'm good. We'll lose the rest 1045 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,600 Speaker 1: and we lost the rest of the games for the 1046 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,280 Speaker 1: sake of are killing It looked like he still ain't 1047 01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 1: agree with you. He's still he's still he got a career. 1048 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 1: But you know, but you know, those were good moments 1049 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:10,479 Speaker 1: like for me because it's like I got to be 1050 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:15,000 Speaker 1: around you know, that guy who I thought musically was, 1051 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, the greatest of all times. You know what 1052 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,599 Speaker 1: I'm saying in spite of you know what I mean, 1053 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,080 Speaker 1: it's it's a lot connected to it that you know, 1054 01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,400 Speaker 1: we don't have to unpack. We get. But that's why 1055 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 1: that's why I bring up the Bill Cosby thing is 1056 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,240 Speaker 1: because and I think you asked me earlier that I 1057 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 1: didn't know how to answer it, um saying, how do 1058 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,960 Speaker 1: you feel when I still see the Cosby Show? Cosby 1059 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 1: Show is still one of the greatest. It's still a 1060 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:44,080 Speaker 1: cosmic show, and it made me feel ill like that 1061 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 1: I could see a positive black family on there. So 1062 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 1: I don't think it takes away from that. So if 1063 01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,680 Speaker 1: you still love R. Kelly's music, that's but it's just 1064 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,360 Speaker 1: the thing is the music what it depicts, and then 1065 01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 1: knowing what the charges, not even what the music depend 1066 01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 1: it's more so with the music enabled the power of 1067 01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,679 Speaker 1: the music and the power period, right, but the sexual 1068 01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,880 Speaker 1: content thinking that you're talking to a woman or whatever. 1069 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,000 Speaker 1: Then knowing now, that's probably where people have problems, you know, 1070 01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:16,120 Speaker 1: connecting know that think it's great, but then have a 1071 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,640 Speaker 1: hard time. But at the time, while I was being 1072 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,760 Speaker 1: inspired by it, I'm a kid. I don't know. Yeah, 1073 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:25,479 Speaker 1: but people will see that and say, you know the 1074 01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,280 Speaker 1: headline O tank was inspired by R. Kelly and not 1075 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,799 Speaker 1: put it in and not put it in proper context. 1076 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,840 Speaker 1: Every R and B singer you ever run into from now, 1077 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 1: from then to now on, we'll tell you he's the guy. 1078 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,680 Speaker 1: You can't deny our Kelly. How many rappers careers if 1079 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,439 Speaker 1: they didn't have R Kelly on the home the hook? 1080 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,160 Speaker 1: You gotta like, you gotta give, you gotta give, you 1081 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:50,720 Speaker 1: gotta give that, yeah, if you don't give nothing else. Yeah, 1082 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 1: that's why I broke up the Cosby Show because the 1083 01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,160 Speaker 1: Cosby Show is just it was it was it was 1084 01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 1: everything we needed. It was funny about the Cosby Show. 1085 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: Sorry to change such a a little bit, but you 1086 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 1: notice no one from the Cosby Show is dis in Bil, 1087 01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,760 Speaker 1: not one of them. It's one character that was Denise's 1088 01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 1: old boyfriend, that's it. But none of them are this 1089 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,760 Speaker 1: and Bill. Well, because you have to look at it 1090 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,560 Speaker 1: like this, right, and let's say, let's say there is 1091 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,800 Speaker 1: a monster that is Bill Cosby. Let's just say it hypothetically. 1092 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,720 Speaker 1: I guarantee you they never got to see him. I 1093 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:29,479 Speaker 1: guarantee you they never met him. Only only person they 1094 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,880 Speaker 1: met was was a man that changed their lives for 1095 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,719 Speaker 1: the better. Right, they gave them an opportunity to probably 1096 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,960 Speaker 1: so somebody else wouldn't. Nobody else would. That's what they see, 1097 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So how do you? How 1098 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,759 Speaker 1: do you? How do you say something against that? If anything, 1099 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,400 Speaker 1: you can't say nothing at all to be in support 1100 01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 1: or or nothing. I don't know who you guys know, 1101 01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,639 Speaker 1: who you guys see, or who you guys have met, 1102 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,560 Speaker 1: but the man that I met changed my life for 1103 01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,640 Speaker 1: the better. I wouldn't be the So I am the 1104 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:05,479 Speaker 1: woman of the man that I am without that man, right, Look, 1105 01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:10,640 Speaker 1: come says Shaquillo now jokingly look says that it's not 1106 01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 1: really blind. Get joking, sad, Just Stevie one is not 1107 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:19,080 Speaker 1: really blind the elevator saying, what's up? I just told 1108 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 1: you he's blind, but he can see some ship. I 1109 01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,080 Speaker 1: love that. By the way, we got one more question 1110 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,800 Speaker 1: to Okay, sorry, I thought it was just not go 1111 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 1: on that tangent? Was that me? That's my phone, that's all. 1112 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,000 Speaker 1: We didn't do. No, we didn't do the that's that's 1113 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:45,560 Speaker 1: our phone. Actually, okay. Oh TLC or s w V. 1114 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 1: I love that. No, no, no, no, no no, I'm 1115 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:54,120 Speaker 1: just I'm just cooling my drink off. I'm just have 1116 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 1: one ready. I'm going with I'm just cooling my drink. Okay, 1117 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:04,840 Speaker 1: it's cool and cute a drinker. That's w V. That's 1118 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 1: w V over T easy cocoa. We need s w 1119 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,519 Speaker 1: B and and well Jack Jack said he could get 1120 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:25,280 Speaker 1: a jack through. That's right, that's rights Coco single. And 1121 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,320 Speaker 1: then my girls too. I just did a show with 1122 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:33,559 Speaker 1: them not too longer. Love love them, love them. Last question, 1123 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 1: all right, loyalty or respect. It's a great question. It's 1124 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:54,599 Speaker 1: a great question. I'm gonna go with, just take a shot. Nope, 1125 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:04,519 Speaker 1: I'm anna with respect. Okay, we definitely need an explanation 1126 01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:12,000 Speaker 1: for this. Respect Why because because loyalty has so many 1127 01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:17,240 Speaker 1: levels to it. There's so many levels to it in 1128 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:21,280 Speaker 1: terms of what you require from something or someone in 1129 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 1: order for it to feel like loyalty. It just it 1130 01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 1: just varies so much. But as long as I have 1131 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,800 Speaker 1: your respect, as long as you understand that I am 1132 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 1: who I am and I do what I do, and 1133 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,400 Speaker 1: you can acknowledge that, I can live with that, as 1134 01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 1: long as you can say, you know what, whether you 1135 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,920 Speaker 1: whether you stay with me or not in terms whether 1136 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,240 Speaker 1: it's business or a person or whatever it is, as 1137 01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 1: long as you can announce acknowledge that motherfucker did right 1138 01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,559 Speaker 1: about me. He is what he is, he is everything 1139 01:18:56,640 --> 01:19:00,599 Speaker 1: he says he is. But I can live with it. Man. 1140 01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot to that though. I'm gonna 1141 01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:07,680 Speaker 1: be honest, even though because because you know why, we 1142 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:12,680 Speaker 1: me and we solo. I'm gonna get over there. I 1143 01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:23,040 Speaker 1: think so. And we always say both, yeah, and we 1144 01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,679 Speaker 1: always say both to it because well that's the answer. 1145 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,040 Speaker 1: When it was answered that way, we all it made 1146 01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:30,840 Speaker 1: the most sense to us, right. I mean, I'm still 1147 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm still with both. I'm still with both because I 1148 01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,160 Speaker 1: think loyal with loyalty comes respect. I think respect comes loyalty. 1149 01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:44,960 Speaker 1: They're not handed in the same sense. Okay, yeah, because 1150 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,920 Speaker 1: at some point we have to consider self preservation, right, 1151 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,880 Speaker 1: and so as we consider self preservation, we have to 1152 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 1: consider that for the other person, and sometimes within the 1153 01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:59,440 Speaker 1: interests of self preservation, you are now not the priority. 1154 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 1: M Like, I love you, but in the interests of 1155 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,960 Speaker 1: self preservation, I can't pick you right, and so the 1156 01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:12,760 Speaker 1: respect takes over when you're able to come to me 1157 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:17,040 Speaker 1: and articulate that I respect you. So let's let me 1158 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,120 Speaker 1: have this conversation with you. Whether it be a tough 1159 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,799 Speaker 1: conversation or not, it's when there there's no respect involved 1160 01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:32,240 Speaker 1: where that disloyal situations can be wrong by both. You 1161 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:36,120 Speaker 1: can't but respect. If you don't want to wrong with 1162 01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,000 Speaker 1: me no more after everything I've done, at least come 1163 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,280 Speaker 1: and tell me. Don't let me find out on the streets. 1164 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,280 Speaker 1: Have that kind of respect for me. That's that's why 1165 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,000 Speaker 1: I could respect. I think the reason why we would 1166 01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,040 Speaker 1: say both is because we feel when you have both, 1167 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:52,680 Speaker 1: there's better chances in heah, it'll be a better situation 1168 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 1: when there's just one there, there's more opportunity can tell 1169 01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 1: you it's it's it's hard to get both after it's 1170 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,600 Speaker 1: hard to get even when you think it's usually not 1171 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:07,800 Speaker 1: the both are this moment circles this moment. I can 1172 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:12,720 Speaker 1: count those people on one and a half hands. Right, 1173 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:20,000 Speaker 1: let's make some noise for that. Good questions? What era 1174 01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,600 Speaker 1: of R and B do you think has is the 1175 01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:27,160 Speaker 1: most impactful? Nineties? And that what google should we talking 1176 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,519 Speaker 1: about in the nineties boys men to see even before 1177 01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:36,599 Speaker 1: the going back to Kelly sixties and seven, Juine, Drew Hill, 1178 01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:44,640 Speaker 1: uh Jacket, Edge one twelve, Danielle Jones, Monica Brandy And 1179 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:46,880 Speaker 1: why do you think that's the most impactful. Why do 1180 01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,400 Speaker 1: you think those groups? What did they do that you 1181 01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:52,000 Speaker 1: feel most impactful. I'll be selfish first and say they 1182 01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:56,920 Speaker 1: made me. I'll start there, um and that was my era, 1183 01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:58,639 Speaker 1: That's the ere I lived in. That's the era where 1184 01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 1: I put on some into pocket guest jings in the 1185 01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:04,800 Speaker 1: party shirt and and went to some young ladies house 1186 01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,000 Speaker 1: who was having the basement party. You know what I'm saying, 1187 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 1: And we gotta try and put the lights off, you 1188 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying finger popping. Absolutely, what do you 1189 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,760 Speaker 1: mean not so lovely? Just get a little bit on 1190 01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:28,400 Speaker 1: that figured Okay, pack my hands out. This is straight banker, 1191 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm big. That's my era, like where they were the 1192 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:45,120 Speaker 1: last even when you know the up tempos were ruling 1193 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,479 Speaker 1: through in the world the last hour, hour and a 1194 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:53,280 Speaker 1: half of whatever function you was at. Slow jams, you 1195 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,439 Speaker 1: got to you got to really dig in and grab 1196 01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,720 Speaker 1: them cheeks and side to side. Man, what you're doing 1197 01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 1: like they're like, I've been feeling you all know, I've 1198 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:04,479 Speaker 1: been looking at you. I've been looking at you, looking 1199 01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,360 Speaker 1: at me, look at you, look at me, like me, 1200 01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:12,320 Speaker 1: like what are we doing? Closing one of the fights 1201 01:23:12,439 --> 01:23:15,280 Speaker 1: at the club after that, I always I was always 1202 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,240 Speaker 1: jealous of your RB niggas. Because of that. You should 1203 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:22,439 Speaker 1: have been like, like, my ship is ending with we 1204 01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,400 Speaker 1: all then we barty and I'm doing the best performance 1205 01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 1: that with someone want to stab some nigga, I'm like, 1206 01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,640 Speaker 1: I hate this ship. I go to R because these 1207 01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:39,560 Speaker 1: things gotta fights. You you're so fu No no no, no, 1208 01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:45,560 Speaker 1: not mean that's Music's tell what you did getting a 1209 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:51,160 Speaker 1: man been stabbed? Because if you're walk through to man, 1210 01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,160 Speaker 1: you know what I was. I was to jealous. I 1211 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:57,439 Speaker 1: went to a Mic Apps concert, yeah, and I just answer, 1212 01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,200 Speaker 1: just wanted to see how this ship feel, and it 1213 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:03,400 Speaker 1: was all positive energy. I was like, yeah, do you 1214 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:07,320 Speaker 1: know how y'all blessed? Like hip hop? We hip hop. 1215 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,680 Speaker 1: You gotta be on point because you just feel like 1216 01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:12,640 Speaker 1: someone else is just gonna test you or try you. 1217 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,560 Speaker 1: But when I go to R and B, or I 1218 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,800 Speaker 1: go to a comedian concert and I just sit there 1219 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:23,519 Speaker 1: and there's no valid very jealous. Validation is different. Your 1220 01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 1: validation is a rap sheet that's just suck up. That's 1221 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 1: funny because it's true. It's funny. That's your validation. You 1222 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:40,559 Speaker 1: have to have attempted murder, being the murder can serve 1223 01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:45,040 Speaker 1: the drug and shot they want you to get at. 1224 01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:51,439 Speaker 1: He's grazy, show me the wound. Yeah, it's a survival music. 1225 01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:58,640 Speaker 1: It's still yeah. My validation. Let's my validation is a 1226 01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:04,120 Speaker 1: woman screaming out loud. But there could be dangerous too, 1227 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:11,599 Speaker 1: like hey, got wed let me just let me tell 1228 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,800 Speaker 1: you something. When I did regg E thron for the 1229 01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,680 Speaker 1: year and a half two years i did, I was 1230 01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,679 Speaker 1: probably the most happiest I've ever been at the music 1231 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,680 Speaker 1: because I would party and in Orlando you said on 1232 01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:28,320 Speaker 1: Lando earlier, Land was one of mym and we were 1233 01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:32,280 Speaker 1: party and party afterwards. I wasn't used to that. I 1234 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:36,360 Speaker 1: was used to party and then the party closes, something's 1235 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:37,760 Speaker 1: going to happen, and I could sit there and I 1236 01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,160 Speaker 1: could just damn and I was just I was like 1237 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:41,960 Speaker 1: the happiest guy. I should have been a vegan at 1238 01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 1: the time, because I was just happy because because you 1239 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 1: knew to be happy and like I was just said, 1240 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,519 Speaker 1: and I was like when I realized, then I went 1241 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,120 Speaker 1: back to hip hop and I had to get back 1242 01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 1: used to violence like that was just you have no 1243 01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,439 Speaker 1: front ship, wasn't done a drink. I'm a be honest. 1244 01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. Nine nine shows and a hundred 1245 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:07,120 Speaker 1: shows of reggae through I swear to god, probably ninety 1246 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,679 Speaker 1: nine of them. Nothing nothing ever happened. Nothing, nothing never happened, 1247 01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,559 Speaker 1: I swear to god. It's nothing to say. That's why 1248 01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 1: I said ninety nine. I never said that. Was that 1249 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,240 Speaker 1: one of them that who was that and got crazy? 1250 01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 1: It's probably because when she makes nothing, y'all, yeah, it happens. 1251 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:34,160 Speaker 1: Probably crowd. I don't even do that. Inspires you to 1252 01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:38,679 Speaker 1: show what you made, though, But that's fuck does sheet music? 1253 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:45,280 Speaker 1: That's you know, say I got a rap sheet as 1254 01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:48,680 Speaker 1: it in today's time, because nobody's really checking them all, 1255 01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:54,200 Speaker 1: not all MC's not all rappers. It's fabricated. Not all 1256 01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,559 Speaker 1: of them are rhyming about that, that's true. I mean 1257 01:26:56,840 --> 01:27:03,960 Speaker 1: most star nine D sound that's a percentage. Look at 1258 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,080 Speaker 1: the charts. No charge. If you're talking about charges, that 1259 01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,800 Speaker 1: what's the I mean? But but but that's how we're 1260 01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:14,360 Speaker 1: identified rights a lot of things that if they want 1261 01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,880 Speaker 1: to know the best about, that's where they look. They 1262 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:22,519 Speaker 1: looking mainstream culture, right, and what is maxstream culture? It's violence, 1263 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:27,040 Speaker 1: just drug dealing, is drug selling us? That's what That's 1264 01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:32,080 Speaker 1: what they that's what they perceived the best. Why why 1265 01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:37,120 Speaker 1: is that the best of us? Why? Like Sam Smith 1266 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:41,400 Speaker 1: gets to sing a great song about stay with Me 1267 01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,479 Speaker 1: that goes straight to power rotation on the mainstream radio station. 1268 01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:52,879 Speaker 1: If I sing that same song stay with Me, limited bandwidth. 1269 01:27:55,160 --> 01:28:06,120 Speaker 1: Because our violence isn't the threat our love it Yeah, 1270 01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:15,639 Speaker 1: our family separated, it's fine, it's perfect. The man staying 1271 01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,599 Speaker 1: with his family and raising his kids and pouring into 1272 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:23,880 Speaker 1: his woman, that's a threat. You're about to be a preacher. 1273 01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:32,720 Speaker 1: And that's what R and B stands for. And that's 1274 01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,759 Speaker 1: why R and B takes such a back seat, because 1275 01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:42,000 Speaker 1: we're not promoting the aesthetic that continues to perpetuate the stereotype. 1276 01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,599 Speaker 1: You guys are killers, you guys are animals, You guys 1277 01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:51,160 Speaker 1: are savages. That's when you're at your best. So that's 1278 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:55,040 Speaker 1: what we're going to reward. Those are the guys who 1279 01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:58,320 Speaker 1: get the hundred million dollar deals. Those are the guys 1280 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 1: who fill up the arenas and stadiums to talk that ship. 1281 01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:09,280 Speaker 1: We love when you talk that ship love, We're cool. 1282 01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:14,840 Speaker 1: We're cool. I love love you do. Wasn't love and 1283 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:24,680 Speaker 1: love popular? We don't control, we don't own conglomerates. It 1284 01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:31,880 Speaker 1: comes down to ownership. Yeah, we don't own radio, we 1285 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:36,519 Speaker 1: don't own streaming, we don't own media, we don't own 1286 01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:41,120 Speaker 1: none of it. But we own our feelings. And it's 1287 01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,720 Speaker 1: very seldom that people promote love and love, love and 1288 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,640 Speaker 1: being in love well, because what happens now is that 1289 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:50,680 Speaker 1: with with social media and all these other things, you 1290 01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:54,960 Speaker 1: get hypnotized by an algorithm, so and everybody wants to 1291 01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:58,000 Speaker 1: be popping right. So in the idea of wanting to 1292 01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:01,880 Speaker 1: be popping, You're gonna roll with what's popping. Nobody's they're 1293 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,280 Speaker 1: not leaders anymore. The followers like what happened in the 1294 01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,600 Speaker 1: oscars that that became immediately everybody had to post that 1295 01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:13,720 Speaker 1: had they want they wanted to be so bad. It's 1296 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,559 Speaker 1: the algorithm. I'm sorry, you have a business. I got 1297 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:23,880 Speaker 1: you didn't, I mean whatever. I'm just saying last night immediately, 1298 01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,439 Speaker 1: not a second past. And that means they put everybody 1299 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,320 Speaker 1: bom bom bom. And I'm like, wow, we live in 1300 01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:35,240 Speaker 1: a mean beef in that algorithm, right, And so the 1301 01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:44,080 Speaker 1: algorithm is is drugs, abuse of any kind, ratchet killing. 1302 01:30:44,439 --> 01:30:47,160 Speaker 1: It's all like it's a I'm victim of it. I'm 1303 01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,800 Speaker 1: a world star. Like I'm just looking. I'm like, you know, 1304 01:30:52,320 --> 01:31:00,679 Speaker 1: and I'm seeing that the headline you doing something take yeah, 1305 01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:05,240 Speaker 1: accidentally accidentally shoots her friend in the in the head. 1306 01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,360 Speaker 1: I'm like saw that. I'm like and I'm like, I 1307 01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:11,280 Speaker 1: have to click that. I have to see what that is. 1308 01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:18,920 Speaker 1: So that's where we are in society, especially ours over 1309 01:31:19,040 --> 01:31:22,000 Speaker 1: my man Danny people. Yeah, yeah, so we could we 1310 01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,880 Speaker 1: could post some cool love shot. All you can say tomorrow. 1311 01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm in love my life. I say all the time, 1312 01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,559 Speaker 1: I'm married, but nothing's gonna get married to Nothering's gonna 1313 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,960 Speaker 1: go more viral out here, smack of a mask. If 1314 01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,760 Speaker 1: you say, you know what, I'm gonna be honest with y'all. 1315 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:43,759 Speaker 1: I got I got two bodies in Denver. H don't 1316 01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:51,240 Speaker 1: I won't saying that nothing would be more fun to 1317 01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:55,920 Speaker 1: hell with your love. Yeah, with your love, your brown love, 1318 01:31:56,640 --> 01:32:02,000 Speaker 1: about your brown legs. We care about your brown savagery. 1319 01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:08,439 Speaker 1: Show us the savage. That's when you're at your best. 1320 01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,160 Speaker 1: I always go back to, like I think about, think 1321 01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:15,679 Speaker 1: about Denzel. You what he said told Will? He said, 1322 01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:18,200 Speaker 1: the Devil's gonna come at you when you're at your high. 1323 01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:24,719 Speaker 1: Of course, of course it's gonna be Would imagine didn't 1324 01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:29,160 Speaker 1: Tel winning an oscar for training day and not winning 1325 01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:35,920 Speaker 1: for Malcolm X. It's the world we're living. Yeah? Did 1326 01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:40,800 Speaker 1: he did he work? Did he work? One of my 1327 01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 1: favorite movies of Denzel Remember the Titans football? Absolutely, you 1328 01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:50,920 Speaker 1: will remember the night you played the Titans. Whether you 1329 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:53,519 Speaker 1: win or lose, you don't remember this night. I used that. 1330 01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,360 Speaker 1: I used that to do you remember like the saw 1331 01:32:55,640 --> 01:32:58,439 Speaker 1: to night you saw Tank? Yeah? You gave me when 1332 01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:04,240 Speaker 1: you get lucky enough what you're doing right. But but imagine, 1333 01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:10,240 Speaker 1: imagine winning for being a crooked cop, being a nigger 1334 01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,280 Speaker 1: at its finest. But let's just be clear, Tank and 1335 01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:17,320 Speaker 1: all honesty. He killed, that's not going to lie to you. 1336 01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:21,439 Speaker 1: He did, but didn't kill everything that everything he didn't. 1337 01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,200 Speaker 1: But I don't sell it for that or not anything else, 1338 01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:26,000 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna be honest. I think that 1339 01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,000 Speaker 1: they slept on Malcolm X and they didn't. They didn't 1340 01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,479 Speaker 1: want to give that power black image. We're not giving 1341 01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:38,320 Speaker 1: power to black. I respect that power. What it is 1342 01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,880 Speaker 1: you're going to win in the space we think you 1343 01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:47,360 Speaker 1: should win in where we think you're at your best. 1344 01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,840 Speaker 1: This is where you live for us. Now we will 1345 01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:57,200 Speaker 1: reward you how that works. I'm about to say, take 1346 01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:58,559 Speaker 1: a shot, but I don't think she'd take a shot 1347 01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:08,679 Speaker 1: for that. Probably not, but maybe not just as real. 1348 01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,880 Speaker 1: It's real, And I'm not listening as much as as 1349 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:16,719 Speaker 1: much as the Will you know smacking, you know, smack 1350 01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:20,120 Speaker 1: and Chris is a thing. I'm not gonna let that 1351 01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:27,160 Speaker 1: overshadow the fact that Will got his oscar. He did 1352 01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:33,600 Speaker 1: you see the movie? Actually Smith wanted for absolutely. I 1353 01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,800 Speaker 1: was obviously with the movie what's that? What do you mean? 1354 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,240 Speaker 1: Because and I think I think it probably was a 1355 01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:44,720 Speaker 1: licensing issue because I felt like we never got to 1356 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:51,040 Speaker 1: see Venus and Serena do everything that they did, and 1357 01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,600 Speaker 1: maybe that's for another movie. Yeah, you know, but I 1358 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,519 Speaker 1: was I was waiting about Tupac. I was I was 1359 01:34:56,640 --> 01:35:01,120 Speaker 1: waiting to go into all the grands. I was waiting 1360 01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:04,640 Speaker 1: to go there because I watched all of it, and 1361 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:06,320 Speaker 1: that's all. That's only when I was mad at I 1362 01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:07,920 Speaker 1: got to where it didn't go there. I got where 1363 01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:12,320 Speaker 1: I probably didn't. There's some probably some Venus and Serena 1364 01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,759 Speaker 1: was like, now that that's ours, this story, his story. 1365 01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:18,560 Speaker 1: That's what I felt like. I felt like it was 1366 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:22,519 Speaker 1: his story with them in it. But I wanted to 1367 01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:24,600 Speaker 1: see that. So was it? What was his name? Was 1368 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,800 Speaker 1: the name of it? You can't watch that and not 1369 01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,240 Speaker 1: be like, I gotta be a better parent or create 1370 01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:34,519 Speaker 1: a better structure all the time. Can we take a 1371 01:35:34,520 --> 01:35:43,320 Speaker 1: shot to came rich? Figure? I say this all the time. 1372 01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,640 Speaker 1: I said the other day in Queen's Bridge, I said, Yo, 1373 01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:51,160 Speaker 1: the first time I actually thought I saw like over extended, 1374 01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,240 Speaker 1: extended the amount of love was watching wrong our tests 1375 01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:59,479 Speaker 1: as father t and they I mean, you know when 1376 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,920 Speaker 1: New York sit. So I'm from left Frac City, but 1377 01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:03,600 Speaker 1: I used to go to Queensbridge and go visit my 1378 01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,320 Speaker 1: friends and it was too cold for us to even 1379 01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,080 Speaker 1: stand outside. And I would see Ron Artests and his 1380 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,840 Speaker 1: father and he'll be throwing the ball like staring his 1381 01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:18,040 Speaker 1: chest and this is snowing, he's slipping, he's picking them up, 1382 01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,360 Speaker 1: and at first my first thought was this is child abuse. 1383 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,479 Speaker 1: But first of all, excuse me. It was so bad. 1384 01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:26,360 Speaker 1: At first, I didn't even know that was his father, 1385 01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:31,360 Speaker 1: I thought because because I didn't think that was they 1386 01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:33,960 Speaker 1: were brothers. And then I realized, I said, yo, the same. 1387 01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,320 Speaker 1: They go at it all the time, these brothers, and 1388 01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:40,400 Speaker 1: they're like, nah, that's Ron's father. So he would be 1389 01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,120 Speaker 1: out there in the snow, like I know for a 1390 01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:45,880 Speaker 1: fact one million per cent Ron Artest is one million 1391 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 1: percent in NBA because of his father. I got to 1392 01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:52,240 Speaker 1: see this ship with myself. I'm talking about in the snow. 1393 01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,280 Speaker 1: I'll be sitting there's it's too cold for me to 1394 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,840 Speaker 1: smell cracker because I'm out there like that, and these 1395 01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,519 Speaker 1: nickers is out there. That's that was my job. I'm sorry. 1396 01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:14,000 Speaker 1: That was sun cry. So I'm still handsome, Freezing. You 1397 01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:16,280 Speaker 1: need to go back, and you need to go back 1398 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,360 Speaker 1: and cook Freezing. And I'm seeing him throwing the ball 1399 01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:21,040 Speaker 1: at him, and then they told him that's his father 1400 01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:24,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, so there was no When I 1401 01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,759 Speaker 1: went on to you know, become, it was like, damn, 1402 01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:33,120 Speaker 1: Like that was the strongest father figure I've ever seen me. 1403 01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,200 Speaker 1: And it was so strong that I actually like, WHOA. 1404 01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,600 Speaker 1: I didn't even accept it. I was like that that 1405 01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:42,439 Speaker 1: was wrong. And then went to the NBA. I was like, 1406 01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,439 Speaker 1: I knew that ship bro. I felt then it Listen. 1407 01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:48,400 Speaker 1: They talked about Joe Jackson like that was wrong, right, 1408 01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,320 Speaker 1: They talked about Matthew Knowles like that was wrong. But 1409 01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:55,000 Speaker 1: guess what came out of that Richard like he was 1410 01:37:56,280 --> 01:38:02,120 Speaker 1: like he was crazy, he was doing too much. Yeah, relax, yes, relaxed. No, 1411 01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna relax. She told you she was gonna 1412 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,519 Speaker 1: within it. She told you was confident. She told you 1413 01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:10,400 Speaker 1: why I stopped nothing with that, And look what you made. 1414 01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:17,120 Speaker 1: You're gonna beat somebody. Ye if I got something to 1415 01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:21,360 Speaker 1: do with it, You're gonna beat somebody. M you reward 1416 01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:29,280 Speaker 1: that all right, King Richard, King Richard, I don't want 1417 01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:32,599 Speaker 1: some of this Japanese del y'all. I'm gona take another shot, Jane. 1418 01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:38,559 Speaker 1: I feel like you said, I'm doing the real del all. 1419 01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,320 Speaker 1: Let me yes, yes, yes, I'm doing the deal. After this, 1420 01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:47,400 Speaker 1: this is a rocket deli again. After that, it's something 1421 01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:58,280 Speaker 1: sexy to represent this print. Let me ask you something, please, 1422 01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:03,280 Speaker 1: I've seen you in this industry. We've been both in 1423 01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:08,920 Speaker 1: this industry a long time. You've always smiling, you always 1424 01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:14,080 Speaker 1: in a good mood. Is that a front? Or is 1425 01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:17,519 Speaker 1: that really like you? Really love life like that? I mean, 1426 01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:19,400 Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna say yes, I know you're 1427 01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:23,200 Speaker 1: gonna say yes. I guess what my mother acts is. 1428 01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:27,680 Speaker 1: I felt out of love with this music business, not 1429 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:33,360 Speaker 1: with the music, the music badness. Have you ever felt 1430 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:35,840 Speaker 1: out of love with the music business? Fell out of 1431 01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,120 Speaker 1: love with the music business? You ever in love with 1432 01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:41,840 Speaker 1: the music business? Oh? I have the business of it. 1433 01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:46,760 Speaker 1: I was in love with all of it from I 1434 01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:52,599 Speaker 1: signed the out on. But still I'm still in love 1435 01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,160 Speaker 1: with it anyway, still in love with the music business. 1436 01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,240 Speaker 1: I was still in love with it. I gotta get 1437 01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,320 Speaker 1: in there, and I got in and I was in 1438 01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:03,880 Speaker 1: love and in two thousand two I had fifteen hundred 1439 01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:05,559 Speaker 1: dollars in my account and the man owed me seven 1440 01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:11,640 Speaker 1: hundred thousand. This man is and he wouldn't give it 1441 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:16,479 Speaker 1: to me. You have hundred. He owes you seven. This 1442 01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,360 Speaker 1: calculation is crazy. Had a wife and a kid. Wouldn't 1443 01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:24,200 Speaker 1: give it to me. I knew he owed me, wouldn't 1444 01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:28,280 Speaker 1: give it to me. I tried to. I tried to hurt, 1445 01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:33,960 Speaker 1: said man, I'm not a gangster, not affiliated. I know people, 1446 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:39,599 Speaker 1: but I'm a soldier. So for mine, I'm a ride 1447 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:44,080 Speaker 1: or die for mine. And I adopted that. I tried 1448 01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:48,840 Speaker 1: that right, which set me on the bench for and 1449 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:54,360 Speaker 1: said man did pay. Said men paid a little. L 1450 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:59,800 Speaker 1: A Reid said man paid a little. Why I needed it? No, 1451 01:41:00,920 --> 01:41:07,040 Speaker 1: went from seven hundred thousand to a hundred. Yeah needed it. 1452 01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:13,759 Speaker 1: H needed it. Caught me slipping fun this music business. 1453 01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:17,960 Speaker 1: That's that's my point. Like this music buss. The more 1454 01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,559 Speaker 1: I learned about the business, and I'm watching I'm first off, 1455 01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:25,439 Speaker 1: I'm watching the promo guy. I'm watching myself do fifty 1456 01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:30,160 Speaker 1: promo shows and I'm watching the promo go to the 1457 01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:33,560 Speaker 1: back room and grab cash, and you're doing it for 1458 01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:40,880 Speaker 1: free back this wait funck this up funk this fun 1459 01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 1: this music game. Yeah, I'm at a house on Ved 1460 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:49,559 Speaker 1: all day one day, walk into a club one day. 1461 01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:51,000 Speaker 1: Let me let me me go back. I walk into 1462 01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 1: a club one day and somebody screams, take look over, 1463 01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,880 Speaker 1: Jamie Fox. I walk over Jamie Fox and my hey 1464 01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:01,960 Speaker 1: man was like, he said, man, I've been looking for you, nigga. 1465 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:08,639 Speaker 1: You look calls nigga. We gotta talk at this time. 1466 01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm having these feelings. Fuck the music business. I go 1467 01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,960 Speaker 1: back to the d m V. I'll be the minister 1468 01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:18,040 Speaker 1: music at somebody's church. Finished my calling to be a preacher. 1469 01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:22,400 Speaker 1: I'll do that. I'm standing in Jamie Foxx's kitchen with 1470 01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,439 Speaker 1: him and his sister Dietro, and he's like, so, what's 1471 01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:27,120 Speaker 1: the man, what we're doing? Like, what's going on? Said, 1472 01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,479 Speaker 1: I ain't doing nothing. I'm about to go home. I'm 1473 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:33,600 Speaker 1: about to go the church thing, move back into my 1474 01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,360 Speaker 1: mom's house until I can figure my own place out. 1475 01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:42,040 Speaker 1: He's like, you got the records out, okay record He like, 1476 01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,040 Speaker 1: You're like, you can't go home. It's the funk. I can't. 1477 01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,040 Speaker 1: He said, no, you can't. He said, what I'm gonna do. 1478 01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:53,280 Speaker 1: That's what you mean? He said, Who's gonna inspire me? 1479 01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:57,920 Speaker 1: I'll look to you. He just said, ain't know where 1480 01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,639 Speaker 1: you're going home, Niger at the do you dream playing? 1481 01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,400 Speaker 1: You ain't going nowhere naked. We're gonna fight this, We're 1482 01:43:03,400 --> 01:43:06,960 Speaker 1: gonna ride this ship out, Nick, And I'm like, well 1483 01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:11,760 Speaker 1: what at this time, I'm kind of homeless. He's like, 1484 01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:13,760 Speaker 1: what you're gonna do? He said, this is what you're 1485 01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna do. You're gonna use my studio and you're gonna 1486 01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:21,040 Speaker 1: live in my house until you figure at the funk out. Wow. 1487 01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:30,439 Speaker 1: Jamie Fox, real nigger like that? Wow? That I would 1488 01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:34,360 Speaker 1: love to Jamie Fox and Brian and Brian too. So 1489 01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:39,920 Speaker 1: if Jennie Fox doesn't say that there's no tank, there's 1490 01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:44,640 Speaker 1: there is no sex, love in pain? What wrong you 1491 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,200 Speaker 1: there to say that? She was about to quick? What? What? 1492 01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,960 Speaker 1: What was? What was that moment? I saw people who 1493 01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:53,640 Speaker 1: weren't as good as me making it right? So the 1494 01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:55,280 Speaker 1: niggas ain't like me. It ain't as good as me, 1495 01:43:55,880 --> 01:43:58,360 Speaker 1: And you're not a hate. It's not a hater, but 1496 01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,640 Speaker 1: I compete for a living. Nigga ain't nice like me? 1497 01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:04,840 Speaker 1: But there at the top of the charge. Look at 1498 01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:06,759 Speaker 1: them niggas, I kill him niggas every not on stage 1499 01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:11,439 Speaker 1: don't want to work like I'm a hundred percenter Like 1500 01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,519 Speaker 1: most people don't know what that is. Two. I produce it, 1501 01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:24,840 Speaker 1: write it, sing it, perform it by myself. You know, 1502 01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:34,519 Speaker 1: they changed they changed publishing rules for two people because 1503 01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:37,800 Speaker 1: of R Kelly, because the Tank. Oh, we can't have 1504 01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:41,120 Speaker 1: you placing ten songs on one album. We have to 1505 01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:44,920 Speaker 1: create thresholds, we have to create benchmarks. So at two 1506 01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,080 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand records, three songs count. At five 1507 01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,920 Speaker 1: hundred thousand records, three and a half songs count. At 1508 01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,840 Speaker 1: a million, all the songs count, but not unto then 1509 01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:57,920 Speaker 1: for you and Rob, because I was running through them. 1510 01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:01,080 Speaker 1: Give me my back end, now give me my front an. 1511 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:06,400 Speaker 1: I got eight on this one hunt a per center? Right, 1512 01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:11,360 Speaker 1: but you do you let people right? Right? Okay? Absolutely? 1513 01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:14,120 Speaker 1: Why does that so accepted an R and B world? 1514 01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't know why it's not. I think rapping is 1515 01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,160 Speaker 1: like here. First of all, I used to wrap. Everybody 1516 01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:25,040 Speaker 1: hates when I go into my MC hurricane upping a little. 1517 01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna going to my m C Hurricane days that 1518 01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:29,040 Speaker 1: means you still wrap. Let's go. I'll start it off. 1519 01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,680 Speaker 1: It's a wrapper. I'm not gonna do it. I do it. 1520 01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:36,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell your freestyle fas, that's not what I want 1521 01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:39,320 Speaker 1: to go back. Just stop what I want to go back. 1522 01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:43,040 Speaker 1: You have the berct name for this city, Hurricane, But 1523 01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:44,920 Speaker 1: I can tell you I don't want to hate your 1524 01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm already I was Hurricane. Used to when I was 1525 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,839 Speaker 1: a kid, I would go around the hood rapping against 1526 01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:55,519 Speaker 1: the you know, vice lords and the g d s, 1527 01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,560 Speaker 1: and I would I would. I would in d C 1528 01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:05,120 Speaker 1: No in mil Walk, Wisconsin, right war in Milwaukee, Klwaukee, Wisconsin. Yeah, Wisconsin. 1529 01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,519 Speaker 1: So I used to go around the hood in battle 1530 01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:10,599 Speaker 1: real gangsters with my wraps. I a rap called Rated 1531 01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:14,000 Speaker 1: R that used to kill everything. How did rad a go? 1532 01:46:14,439 --> 01:46:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it with just you. Just just freestyles 1533 01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:28,320 Speaker 1: horribly on the drake. Spell it will be so you 1534 01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:32,080 Speaker 1: know where were we going? We was used about the 1535 01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:42,680 Speaker 1: freestyle Hark was coming. I'm a rapper first, then I'm 1536 01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:46,679 Speaker 1: a R and B saying that is crazy. Most people 1537 01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:49,240 Speaker 1: don't know that. But I'm not telling everybody. Okay, you 1538 01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,840 Speaker 1: ain't gonna tell you. I'm not freestyling. Let's never let's 1539 01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:53,080 Speaker 1: get out of this, Let's go to the next let's 1540 01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:56,960 Speaker 1: go to the ness. Okay, why did you call it 1541 01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:03,720 Speaker 1: maybe I deserve, because, by the way, for years, I 1542 01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:07,479 Speaker 1: call it baby, I deserve. I was fucked up today 1543 01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:10,840 Speaker 1: when I realized it's baby, I was like, oh, I'm 1544 01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:14,160 Speaker 1: just thinking this sh it wrong for years because because 1545 01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:18,160 Speaker 1: you were living in the affirmative, I think you're picking 1546 01:47:18,200 --> 01:47:20,559 Speaker 1: me up. I'm not sure, but I think you're me up, 1547 01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:28,200 Speaker 1: just taking Yeah, I'm just taking that's big up. I'm sorry. 1548 01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:39,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think it's having fun. It's your fun's 1549 01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:49,400 Speaker 1: interview you have. Let's go read wrong as well. Okay, 1550 01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:53,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take me another show. I'm just gonna get 1551 01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:58,120 Speaker 1: me ready. Okay, you're living in the affirmative, right, which 1552 01:47:58,160 --> 01:48:01,400 Speaker 1: means you're sure that things, these things should happen, And 1553 01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:06,120 Speaker 1: I was living in the speculative space, where isn't maybe 1554 01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:12,000 Speaker 1: maybe you should do that. I wouldn't advise it, but 1555 01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:15,960 Speaker 1: if so, maybe if it did happen in some way, 1556 01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:19,760 Speaker 1: shape or form, I could accept it because of all 1557 01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:25,400 Speaker 1: the things that I've done. Maybe leaves a lot of 1558 01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:30,640 Speaker 1: room right for for men. We need room. We need 1559 01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:34,240 Speaker 1: room to change our minds. We need room to be assholes. 1560 01:48:34,479 --> 01:48:38,920 Speaker 1: We need room. So when she does it and she says, well, 1561 01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:44,840 Speaker 1: you said that, do you deserve saying maybe maybe get 1562 01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:48,920 Speaker 1: your ass out of here? Because I hadn't decided definitively 1563 01:48:50,120 --> 01:48:53,840 Speaker 1: if I was okay with that, I have thought about it. 1564 01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:59,880 Speaker 1: Hence them Maybe this nick is getting deep. I write 1565 01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:04,519 Speaker 1: songs for a living. Maybe it's a hell of a word. 1566 01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,320 Speaker 1: I'm not giving you permission. I'm just saying there's a 1567 01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:13,880 Speaker 1: chance I might forgive you and excuses now in real life, 1568 01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:17,680 Speaker 1: because in a song, you're saying that you deserve she 1569 01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:21,479 Speaker 1: getting you back. Correct to wonder who's calling so damn 1570 01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:23,800 Speaker 1: late for you to say I'm tripping just to hold 1571 01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,640 Speaker 1: me from upstate? Don't he know it's one o'clock in 1572 01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:29,800 Speaker 1: the morning. You say it's cool. Maybe it's cool. Maybe 1573 01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,439 Speaker 1: I deserve for you to say he's coming into town, 1574 01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:35,280 Speaker 1: for you to say that he wants you and him 1575 01:49:35,320 --> 01:49:38,960 Speaker 1: to hang out. I don't like it, but I know 1576 01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:42,519 Speaker 1: I gotta trust you. It ain't cool, but I know 1577 01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,559 Speaker 1: it's true. Maybe I'll deserve for you to go out 1578 01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:48,280 Speaker 1: and find some other guy. Maybe I'll deserve for you 1579 01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,120 Speaker 1: to stay out with him all night. Maybe I deserve 1580 01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,640 Speaker 1: for you to do all the things I did to you. 1581 01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:59,080 Speaker 1: Maybe I deserve maybe for you to put on that 1582 01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:02,120 Speaker 1: sexy dress, for me to ask you, who the hell 1583 01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:06,439 Speaker 1: are you trying to impress? Bitch, for you to laugh 1584 01:50:06,520 --> 01:50:09,320 Speaker 1: at all like that. I'm just splitting on some cool shit. 1585 01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:18,760 Speaker 1: What did you deserve? For me to ask you where 1586 01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:21,719 Speaker 1: the funk you've been? For you to say, I'd better 1587 01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:28,639 Speaker 1: stop tripping to grab your neck until you let me know. Yeah, 1588 01:50:31,120 --> 01:50:37,439 Speaker 1: that's the part that flew way under the radar, so 1589 01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:44,680 Speaker 1: happy under the You don't run crying, crying out the 1590 01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:48,240 Speaker 1: door to grab my coat and chase you down the street, 1591 01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,320 Speaker 1: to say it's not you, it's my own securities. For 1592 01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,320 Speaker 1: you to say, yes, I cheat on you, For me 1593 01:50:54,439 --> 01:50:57,120 Speaker 1: to say I don't care after all I put you through, 1594 01:50:57,280 --> 01:51:01,920 Speaker 1: Maybe I deserve well, was listening to this song. I 1595 01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:07,439 Speaker 1: couldn't help it. I can't have said that we're gonna 1596 01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:11,120 Speaker 1: suck me up. You've got the reach of the side 1597 01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:19,800 Speaker 1: that and that's maybe maybe you did you deserve it. Maybe, 1598 01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:25,200 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, I've accepted my faith in a 1599 01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:28,920 Speaker 1: few situations. Let me ask you, because like, when I'm 1600 01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:32,439 Speaker 1: listening to your songs, I couldn't. I was like, I'm 1601 01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:36,880 Speaker 1: listening like this, I've been through some ship, everything is 1602 01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:42,800 Speaker 1: you're going through it, been through it, been through it, 1603 01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:49,960 Speaker 1: and once maybe I deserve worked. It led me to 1604 01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:54,519 Speaker 1: believe that everything about my real life will will work 1605 01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:58,799 Speaker 1: from this point on. So I never wrote from fantasy 1606 01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:03,080 Speaker 1: or fallacy. I always wrote from fact. And you worked 1607 01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:07,160 Speaker 1: with Beyonce too, right, No, I worked with Kelly Okay 1608 01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:14,920 Speaker 1: fire and working with Kelly Rowland, she's dope. You have 1609 01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:20,040 Speaker 1: no idea. I had no idea, she says, a great 1610 01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:23,400 Speaker 1: person though she's done. It's one of the best of us. Her, 1611 01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,960 Speaker 1: one of the best of us. Him too, Yes, yes, yes, 1612 01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:29,400 Speaker 1: both of them as are just amazing people. I work 1613 01:52:29,479 --> 01:52:32,519 Speaker 1: with Kelly Rowland, and I was completely throwing the funk 1614 01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:36,840 Speaker 1: off because well, we always know, we always want to 1615 01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:42,960 Speaker 1: give the credit to Beyonce. Who is Beyonce? Yeah, the 1616 01:52:43,080 --> 01:52:45,920 Speaker 1: greatest of all times? Right? We always want to notice 1617 01:52:45,960 --> 01:52:48,320 Speaker 1: what you said about bust the rhymes. You said busting 1618 01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:51,759 Speaker 1: rhymes and swift Star on stage. That's what you just said, 1619 01:52:51,880 --> 01:52:57,000 Speaker 1: bust the rhymes, bust the rhymes is that's that's what 1620 01:52:57,120 --> 01:53:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm like. Yes, Kelly Roland is by far one of 1621 01:53:02,920 --> 01:53:06,719 Speaker 1: the most talented females I've ever worked with in my life, 1622 01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:13,559 Speaker 1: by far. And I'm sitting in the studio like, hear 1623 01:53:13,640 --> 01:53:16,280 Speaker 1: these harmonies? You hear? Do you hear her? Do you 1624 01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:19,920 Speaker 1: hear the text? Do you hear her? Her change? And 1625 01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:25,000 Speaker 1: do you hear are hearing this? I never knew because 1626 01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:27,640 Speaker 1: I gave all the credit to Beyonce. That's how the 1627 01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:32,879 Speaker 1: business of Destiny's Child was set up to a door Beyonce. 1628 01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:36,639 Speaker 1: And then I finally got in the ring with Kelly 1629 01:53:36,800 --> 01:53:41,960 Speaker 1: Rowland and realized that while while Beyonce is in the booth, 1630 01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:46,040 Speaker 1: there's a Kelly Rowland saying, oh try this. Oh, and 1631 01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:51,040 Speaker 1: this notice is crazy. Oh, and there's and we never knew. 1632 01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:58,360 Speaker 1: She's amazing fire And I thank her to this thing 1633 01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:01,160 Speaker 1: for those two records. God damn make some looks for 1634 01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:06,960 Speaker 1: that I keep. I'm keeping the real tank. I just 1635 01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:11,080 Speaker 1: gotta shop. Yeah, I ain't a lot. You're a real drinker, though, 1636 01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:13,519 Speaker 1: are you kidding? Yeah? I don't know what I'm gonna 1637 01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:14,840 Speaker 1: do for the rest of the day. But by the way, 1638 01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:17,960 Speaker 1: by the way, sol i've seen you. Let me just 1639 01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:22,720 Speaker 1: tell you how real Tank is. Maybe you'll hang out 1640 01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:28,360 Speaker 1: for maybe I'm to take it l A. It wasn't 1641 01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,640 Speaker 1: on the flight. No, it's in front. What I'm not 1642 01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:33,480 Speaker 1: gonna say because I love this hotel and I don't 1643 01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 1: want to blow it up because I'm gonna be there, 1644 01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:41,640 Speaker 1: so you're not going back. You blow it up. So 1645 01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,600 Speaker 1: I see him, I'm like, yo, super down the Earth 1646 01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:47,720 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna tank. I don't know if you 1647 01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:49,720 Speaker 1: know what you're I gotta show God dream jamps And 1648 01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:53,560 Speaker 1: he's like, of course I know, asshole, Why would you 1649 01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:55,920 Speaker 1: say that. I was like, think what you're doing? He 1650 01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:59,720 Speaker 1: said absolutely, And you kept your word from that minute 1651 01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:02,560 Speaker 1: on you said no, but listen to hear me out. 1652 01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,160 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful when when when I see people keep 1653 01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:12,840 Speaker 1: their word everything, but because you know what's crazy. I'm 1654 01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:16,880 Speaker 1: so used to the fakeness, too used to words and 1655 01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:19,080 Speaker 1: just seeing me and saying, hey, they just say what 1656 01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:23,280 Speaker 1: they say. Because so when I meet a word one, 1657 01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,160 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta salute you like I gotta salute 1658 01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:28,880 Speaker 1: you because you said, what motherfucker, I pull up on you. 1659 01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:32,000 Speaker 1: I'll come right with Miami, no problem, and everything you 1660 01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:36,680 Speaker 1: said you've done. I'm a victim of people not keeping 1661 01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:40,280 Speaker 1: their word. Me too, so I know how it's you know, yes, 1662 01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:44,040 Speaker 1: that's okay, and I never want anybody to feel that 1663 01:55:44,200 --> 01:55:48,520 Speaker 1: way about me. I've fallen short. I'm not perfect. Of course, 1664 01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,720 Speaker 1: I'll miss some deadlines. Absolutely, But if you ever see 1665 01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:53,960 Speaker 1: me and say, like I called you, you were supposed 1666 01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:58,720 Speaker 1: to say my apologies, I got you different, right, I'll 1667 01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:01,000 Speaker 1: take care of that. That's where I like to live. 1668 01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,520 Speaker 1: So when you say, first of all you say Drake Champs, 1669 01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,000 Speaker 1: first of all, I don't think you know what? Then 1670 01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:14,120 Speaker 1: that means first of all, what do brother? By the way, 1671 01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:17,800 Speaker 1: let's just tell you something day, I'm gonna let you talk. Okay, 1672 01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:22,880 Speaker 1: where in this prestige this hotel? And I say you 1673 01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:26,920 Speaker 1: know his hand? And the god comes walking out with 1674 01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:31,600 Speaker 1: a moving box full of weed. It says, would you 1675 01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:34,800 Speaker 1: like some of this? Where in the funk do you 1676 01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:38,920 Speaker 1: think I'm already putting hand full of weeds? Would you 1677 01:56:39,040 --> 01:56:49,680 Speaker 1: like something? Why do you have? Where are the bags 1678 01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:53,320 Speaker 1: I put this? I'm gonna take you allgine you got 1679 01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:56,600 Speaker 1: you got cheat you with respect, No, I respect. I'm 1680 01:56:56,680 --> 01:57:01,480 Speaker 1: just concerned that was so much of weed I've never 1681 01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:04,480 Speaker 1: seen that much of weed in the box, and you 1682 01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:10,160 Speaker 1: were gracious me. I don't smoke. I drink a little. Yes, 1683 01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:19,400 Speaker 1: we take no But I'm gonna be honest with you. 1684 01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. You have one of the 1685 01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:28,440 Speaker 1: best souls I've ever seen. Like I promise you. You 1686 01:57:29,240 --> 01:57:32,160 Speaker 1: know you said you came out since ninety eight. You 1687 01:57:32,240 --> 01:57:34,800 Speaker 1: know we've seen each other. We've always showed each other respect, 1688 01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, but I've never kind of saw you mad. 1689 01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:44,680 Speaker 1: I know you get mad, don't get it twisted. But 1690 01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:50,680 Speaker 1: other than you and tires, that's the only one who 1691 01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:53,320 Speaker 1: gets you mad. I was no. I wasn't mad when 1692 01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,560 Speaker 1: when you know, when a guy was holding seven hundred 1693 01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:58,200 Speaker 1: thousand Okay, so that's where I but that wasn't public. 1694 01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:00,960 Speaker 1: That's where that's where I went. You know, I went different, 1695 01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:03,480 Speaker 1: and I turned into a guy that I didn't I 1696 01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:07,880 Speaker 1: shouldn't have been, and I and I and I I 1697 01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:10,360 Speaker 1: suffered because of that. I set from two thousand two 1698 01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:13,880 Speaker 1: to two thousand seven, because you know, I told a 1699 01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:16,880 Speaker 1: guy listened before before any of those guys, you know, 1700 01:58:17,240 --> 01:58:19,600 Speaker 1: we'll get to your house to protect you. I'll get 1701 01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:26,720 Speaker 1: there before them. Now, let's work. I've been in that place. 1702 01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:30,920 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I really loved this ship, 1703 01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:39,760 Speaker 1: nor you really love the music. I really love making music. Listen, 1704 01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:43,440 Speaker 1: I was doing this for a hundred and fifty dollars 1705 01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:48,040 Speaker 1: a week. I was doing it for a hundred and 1706 01:58:48,120 --> 01:58:52,480 Speaker 1: fifty dollars a week, and I was happy. I got 1707 01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:57,240 Speaker 1: close to six figures a show. Are you kidding me 1708 01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:03,920 Speaker 1: to sing? Yes, sir, having the time of my life? 1709 01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm having the time of my What you need? No? No, no, no, no, no, 1710 01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:13,040 Speaker 1: keep going. You keep blowing that smoke. I don't know 1711 01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:17,280 Speaker 1: what's happening to me. I don't smoke. Well, you didn't 1712 01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:26,960 Speaker 1: take smoking. I genuinely, I genuinely enjoy R and B 1713 01:59:27,120 --> 01:59:31,640 Speaker 1: music and everybody doing it. I genuinely even Young Blue 1714 01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:37,680 Speaker 1: new guy. What's he saying again? What the song would 1715 01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:48,440 Speaker 1: right if I ever time? Is because we had a 1716 01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:53,320 Speaker 1: we had a thing online. What happened I forgot okay, 1717 01:59:53,760 --> 01:59:56,200 Speaker 1: I only google the positive part of you. I didn't 1718 01:59:56,640 --> 02:00:00,440 Speaker 1: appreciate you for that, I thought, But you got to it, 1719 02:00:02,480 --> 02:00:04,760 Speaker 1: says A guy says, I think that Young Blue might 1720 02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:07,440 Speaker 1: be the new king of R and by well, one 1721 02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:13,560 Speaker 1: record to okay, my back, and I said, I'm so 1722 02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,680 Speaker 1: glad I was born in a different generation, because this 1723 02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:22,160 Speaker 1: generation is wild in terms of how they throw out calculates. 1724 02:00:22,360 --> 02:00:27,680 Speaker 1: King and Queen got go Not any disrespect to him, 1725 02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:30,680 Speaker 1: no disrespect for him at all at all. But do 1726 02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:32,680 Speaker 1: you know what goat? And what do you know? What? 1727 02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Do you know what that means? You know what it 1728 02:00:37,960 --> 02:00:42,040 Speaker 1: means to have a guy like jay Z, have a 1729 02:00:42,080 --> 02:00:45,200 Speaker 1: guy like nas Drake, to have a guy, to have people, 1730 02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:49,840 Speaker 1: to have a Chris Brown, r Kelly, to have these 1731 02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:56,400 Speaker 1: guys who have to have guys who have had another name. 1732 02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:59,200 Speaker 1: To that that, I have to add baby Face. You've 1733 02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:02,600 Speaker 1: been skipping baby Face all night. Let me not baby Face, 1734 02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:05,000 Speaker 1: because he's the guy who I really want to be 1735 02:01:05,800 --> 02:01:09,400 Speaker 1: Slash Keith Sweat. We'll get to all of that. I 1736 02:01:09,440 --> 02:01:12,480 Speaker 1: don't think baby Face ever raised his voice. Doesn't have to. 1737 02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't think he's yelled in his life. Doesn't have to. Ye, 1738 02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:19,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why he says, I give the love. 1739 02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:22,200 Speaker 1: I'll cook your dinner too as soon as I get 1740 02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:28,000 Speaker 1: home from work. This motherfucker worked eight hours, came home, 1741 02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:31,720 Speaker 1: fuck the ship out of him, and then cook dinner. 1742 02:01:32,040 --> 02:01:34,880 Speaker 1: That's what he just said. That's what he said after 1743 02:01:35,000 --> 02:01:38,480 Speaker 1: he got home from work eight hour shift, hard body, 1744 02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:42,440 Speaker 1: karate who you want to be? Who you want to be? 1745 02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Where were we going? But the tweet came out and 1746 02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:57,080 Speaker 1: he felt a way like as if I was disrespecting him. Right. 1747 02:01:58,120 --> 02:02:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he realizes that I'm a fan of 1748 02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:05,600 Speaker 1: him because I only liked that song and I only 1749 02:02:05,680 --> 02:02:10,840 Speaker 1: want the younger generation two fight for their space and 1750 02:02:11,120 --> 02:02:15,600 Speaker 1: earned their space, versus just throw around to take it 1751 02:02:16,880 --> 02:02:21,600 Speaker 1: like you can't you can't take king or go. You 1752 02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:28,280 Speaker 1: can't take that. You have to earn that. But I 1753 02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:32,800 Speaker 1: do understand why he felt that way because but he 1754 02:02:32,920 --> 02:02:37,520 Speaker 1: didn't say he's the goat. No, he didn't say it them. 1755 02:02:38,320 --> 02:02:41,240 Speaker 1: But what happened to We're back to that straw breaking 1756 02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:43,720 Speaker 1: the camel's back. And this is what I noticed in 1757 02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:48,080 Speaker 1: some of what he said in his response. People have 1758 02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:53,960 Speaker 1: been people have been taken away from his creativity and 1759 02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:58,240 Speaker 1: diminishing his ability to do what he does since he started. 1760 02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:02,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't about me, m hmm. I was just the 1761 02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:07,160 Speaker 1: person that came at the right time that you're CHRISTI 1762 02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:11,400 Speaker 1: where he was Chris Rock, did we go there? I 1763 02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:18,640 Speaker 1: mean I was Christal I was. I was My voice 1764 02:03:18,760 --> 02:03:21,680 Speaker 1: was too much at that time. Had it been anybody 1765 02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:24,200 Speaker 1: else but Chris Rock, I don't think Will would have 1766 02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:27,840 Speaker 1: walked on that stage. But it's Chris Rock. It's too big, 1767 02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:31,680 Speaker 1: it's too powerful. I have to address this. So I 1768 02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:34,560 Speaker 1: understand why Young Blue had to address it the way 1769 02:03:34,640 --> 02:03:37,280 Speaker 1: he did. And I even text him before he even 1770 02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:39,920 Speaker 1: tweeted anything. I said, Si, bro, it's not what you 1771 02:03:40,040 --> 02:03:43,400 Speaker 1: think it is. I rock with you. And he's still 1772 02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:48,280 Speaker 1: made some more posts, which I think was probably encouraged 1773 02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:51,200 Speaker 1: by some other people because he's a good kid. He's 1774 02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:53,640 Speaker 1: not a bad kid at all. So what actually happened 1775 02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:57,520 Speaker 1: this was over my head. I just didn't want I 1776 02:03:57,600 --> 02:03:59,760 Speaker 1: don't like me and John Queens went through this. Who's 1777 02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:02,920 Speaker 1: my brother, my little brother, and I love Jack Quiss. 1778 02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:05,760 Speaker 1: He is the king of R and B two. I 1779 02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:08,120 Speaker 1: love Jack Quis. He could say whatever he want to say, 1780 02:04:08,320 --> 02:04:11,040 Speaker 1: and I'm a support him period. I don't care what 1781 02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:14,960 Speaker 1: he says. That's my little nigga, right. And somebody was 1782 02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:17,440 Speaker 1: somebody was calling somebody else was saying he's the king 1783 02:04:17,560 --> 02:04:19,720 Speaker 1: or he's the way I said, you and not the king. 1784 02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,240 Speaker 1: You ain't put enough work yet how do you pass 1785 02:04:23,320 --> 02:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Chris Brown just all of a sudden because and he 1786 02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:29,960 Speaker 1: said it's this generation, it's not a generational thing. I 1787 02:04:30,080 --> 02:04:34,040 Speaker 1: think he's right. Let me just tell you why what 1788 02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:39,160 Speaker 1: this generation calls goat and king is only different. You 1789 02:04:39,240 --> 02:04:42,800 Speaker 1: gotta say what you're saying, right, So what's right about that? No, 1790 02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:46,600 Speaker 1: that's not right. You can see the point. I can 1791 02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:48,840 Speaker 1: see you know what I'm saying, because I can see 1792 02:04:48,880 --> 02:04:51,960 Speaker 1: them saying he is the most revered in that space 1793 02:04:52,160 --> 02:04:54,520 Speaker 1: at the moment, because you know what I think, because 1794 02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:57,960 Speaker 1: everything nowadays is at the moment in the social media 1795 02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:05,680 Speaker 1: come from we come from we come from pain, dudes different, 1796 02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:08,760 Speaker 1: it's different now. And me and Jocquis is my that's 1797 02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:11,040 Speaker 1: my family. I know his mom that that's the family. Like. 1798 02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:13,680 Speaker 1: So we talked it out. We were able to talk 1799 02:05:13,720 --> 02:05:16,160 Speaker 1: about and like, I love beautiful, I love you bro, 1800 02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:18,840 Speaker 1: and we mean Young Blue, we're taking a shot to that. 1801 02:05:18,960 --> 02:05:22,880 Speaker 1: I feel like it's take a shot that we just 1802 02:05:23,000 --> 02:05:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'll just take a shot and get a 1803 02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:25,760 Speaker 1: little shot with you. Yeah, come on, let's go on. 1804 02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Let's go. Yes to R and B niggas not having me. 1805 02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:34,320 Speaker 1: So me and Young Blue haven't been able to talk 1806 02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:36,920 Speaker 1: that out yet, which I which I hope to do. Yeah, 1807 02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:39,760 Speaker 1: your RB niggas gotta stop. But but no, no, he 1808 02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:42,200 Speaker 1: just wanted. He just won an award for Best Hip 1809 02:05:42,240 --> 02:05:49,800 Speaker 1: Hop New Artists. Wow, which validates my point. Now what 1810 02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:58,040 Speaker 1: was your point? He's not the King of Army's not 1811 02:05:58,120 --> 02:06:00,200 Speaker 1: the new king of R and B. I love him. 1812 02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:05,280 Speaker 1: I love his work. I buy his work, which which 1813 02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:07,560 Speaker 1: even goes even further. So you feel like he's more 1814 02:06:07,600 --> 02:06:10,640 Speaker 1: of a rapper. I feel like he's a hybrid. He's 1815 02:06:10,680 --> 02:06:21,160 Speaker 1: the he's the evolution. He's not. I think he's he's 1816 02:06:21,200 --> 02:06:24,360 Speaker 1: a hybrid. He's a new evolution of of everything that 1817 02:06:24,480 --> 02:06:28,400 Speaker 1: we've that we've done, and there is no category for him. 1818 02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:31,720 Speaker 1: There's no category at the Grammys or the Soul Trained 1819 02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:35,080 Speaker 1: or at the BT. They haven't created the category that 1820 02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:39,320 Speaker 1: that that speaks to what he and so many of 1821 02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:45,680 Speaker 1: these new artists do. They do everything. So while I'm 1822 02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:51,920 Speaker 1: celebrating him, which he doesn't realize because he's catching so 1823 02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:57,080 Speaker 1: much flak from whatever side. My straw was the straw 1824 02:06:57,160 --> 02:06:59,080 Speaker 1: that broke the camel's back and he felt the need 1825 02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:02,480 Speaker 1: to come at me. So you feel like because a 1826 02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:04,440 Speaker 1: lot of the times in hip hop, we go through 1827 02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:08,800 Speaker 1: this a lot um. First, I'm so happy to be here. 1828 02:07:09,280 --> 02:07:15,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for appreciate when I say that. But the 1829 02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:18,120 Speaker 1: hip hop there's so many stories of O G s 1830 02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:22,720 Speaker 1: not really accepting the young people. Are you thinking this? 1831 02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:26,320 Speaker 1: Is that the way it came off? I hit him. 1832 02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:30,640 Speaker 1: Here's how it started. Okay, First we he connected slightly. 1833 02:07:30,960 --> 02:07:33,120 Speaker 1: And then where at our R and B money runs, 1834 02:07:33,160 --> 02:07:36,000 Speaker 1: my bro j J runts and he comes over to 1835 02:07:36,080 --> 02:07:40,360 Speaker 1: me and said, O G, let's get something. Let's get something, okay. 1836 02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:43,080 Speaker 1: And so I said, I got the perfect record, and 1837 02:07:43,160 --> 02:07:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, he said, send it to me. I sent 1838 02:07:45,680 --> 02:07:48,520 Speaker 1: it to him, and I'm like, what you think because 1839 02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:51,920 Speaker 1: I'm open for criticism if you ain't working with it. 1840 02:07:52,520 --> 02:07:56,200 Speaker 1: I sent Drake three records before he said, that's the one, right, 1841 02:07:56,640 --> 02:07:59,520 Speaker 1: you ain't working with it. I'm I got tough skin 1842 02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:05,040 Speaker 1: me that game too. By the way, keep going, keeping 1843 02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:12,240 Speaker 1: so fantastic because I love it. So at any point 1844 02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:14,480 Speaker 1: you couldn't said, oh gee, that's not the one, send 1845 02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:18,760 Speaker 1: me something else. Okay. He never did that. Hit him again, 1846 02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:23,360 Speaker 1: talk to me baby, nothing. At this point, I'm like, 1847 02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:26,880 Speaker 1: got it, and I text him back. I'm like, listen, bro, 1848 02:08:27,240 --> 02:08:30,200 Speaker 1: in this business, you've got two things. Your gift in 1849 02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:35,720 Speaker 1: your word honorable. At any point you can tell me O, 1850 02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:38,720 Speaker 1: g I ain't feeling it, or I ain't even fucking 1851 02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:41,640 Speaker 1: with you right now, give me a second. Good luck. 1852 02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:45,360 Speaker 1: I can take all of that, but the radio silence, 1853 02:08:46,160 --> 02:08:49,760 Speaker 1: that's the Hollywood ship, which I'm like, don't do that. 1854 02:08:50,000 --> 02:08:53,240 Speaker 1: And we all been through that very easy, and I'm 1855 02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:55,000 Speaker 1: telling him not to do that because I just know 1856 02:08:55,120 --> 02:08:57,600 Speaker 1: what it is, and and you would, you being the 1857 02:08:57,680 --> 02:09:03,040 Speaker 1: elder artist, you know exactly. I know exactly what that means. 1858 02:09:03,200 --> 02:09:06,280 Speaker 1: You don't, And I'm telling him with me, you don't 1859 02:09:06,320 --> 02:09:08,640 Speaker 1: have to do that. I said, but in the future, 1860 02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:12,520 Speaker 1: just make your word your bond. If you fucking still 1861 02:09:12,640 --> 02:09:17,280 Speaker 1: and if not, say so, it's gonna get you so 1862 02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:21,800 Speaker 1: far in this business. And so that was my only 1863 02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:24,840 Speaker 1: message to him, not that I'm mad at you for 1864 02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:28,240 Speaker 1: not getting on my record, because well, but people again 1865 02:09:28,320 --> 02:09:31,240 Speaker 1: don't understand, is that I don't need people on my record. 1866 02:09:31,840 --> 02:09:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm a hundred percenter. My last two number ones were 1867 02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:41,040 Speaker 1: me a hundred percent written produced saying it's me, It's me. 1868 02:09:41,120 --> 02:09:45,360 Speaker 1: I don't need anybody, but I love collaborating. That's fire. 1869 02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:49,160 Speaker 1: I love going to to to Chris Brown studio and 1870 02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:52,000 Speaker 1: hearing a hundred songs in a row and being like 1871 02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:56,440 Speaker 1: this nigga is cold shit. I gotta get there like. 1872 02:09:56,640 --> 02:10:03,840 Speaker 1: I love that. But the respect from elder to the 1873 02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:09,480 Speaker 1: new generation there there is a divide, and we gotta 1874 02:10:09,560 --> 02:10:12,600 Speaker 1: figure out how to fix that, because I only want 1875 02:10:12,680 --> 02:10:16,160 Speaker 1: what's the best for the new generation. You know what 1876 02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, whether it be money long, whether it be 1877 02:10:20,360 --> 02:10:23,400 Speaker 1: whoever it is, whether it be Jock Quins, whether there's 1878 02:10:23,480 --> 02:10:26,520 Speaker 1: power in numbers. I understand you want to go out 1879 02:10:26,560 --> 02:10:32,840 Speaker 1: on tour by yourself and build your heart ticket, you know, 1880 02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:40,760 Speaker 1: build your heart screen necessary five six R and B 1881 02:10:40,920 --> 02:10:47,360 Speaker 1: as on one tour. It's necessary. Of course. I'm a 1882 02:10:47,480 --> 02:10:53,200 Speaker 1: close two years in. If you want to close, I'll 1883 02:10:53,240 --> 02:10:54,680 Speaker 1: let you. I'll let you try it for at night. 1884 02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:57,400 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be heavy. Once I take these clothes off, 1885 02:10:57,560 --> 02:11:04,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna get different. But I'm always preaching numbers because 1886 02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:07,040 Speaker 1: that's how you guys did it. You guys did it 1887 02:11:07,120 --> 02:11:09,840 Speaker 1: with numbers, because guess what you would do. You would 1888 02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:12,480 Speaker 1: get in the room, you would smoke that fucking weed. 1889 02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:16,800 Speaker 1: It's legal. I got a medical card on, you would 1890 02:11:16,800 --> 02:11:21,440 Speaker 1: smoke that medicinal weed, you would drink that liquor, and 1891 02:11:21,600 --> 02:11:27,080 Speaker 1: you would come to an agreement. We don't have weed 1892 02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:31,120 Speaker 1: and liquor in common. R and B guys only have 1893 02:11:31,360 --> 02:11:34,800 Speaker 1: women in common, and we're always trying to be one up. 1894 02:11:36,240 --> 02:11:38,840 Speaker 1: So let me ask you how long you've been married? 1895 02:11:39,920 --> 02:11:44,560 Speaker 1: Three years? Okay, so I'm not talking about this. You 1896 02:11:44,600 --> 02:11:50,080 Speaker 1: can talk whatever I'm talk about. When you use a home. Okay, 1897 02:11:52,920 --> 02:12:00,320 Speaker 1: let him talk talk because I need to imagine the 1898 02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:05,320 Speaker 1: difference between R and B bussy, bussy or pussy. He 1899 02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:13,040 Speaker 1: just buzzy, he said, Pete, it's a pee because dank, 1900 02:12:13,120 --> 02:12:16,880 Speaker 1: I could just imagine how the tours was when you 1901 02:12:16,960 --> 02:12:19,000 Speaker 1: were single. Obviously, because we want to respect wife. I 1902 02:12:19,080 --> 02:12:20,440 Speaker 1: got my wing on, you got your ring on. We 1903 02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:24,760 Speaker 1: both out spide, but we had life before the life 1904 02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:27,000 Speaker 1: absolutely that we love right now, because they're the like 1905 02:12:27,120 --> 02:12:29,320 Speaker 1: we love. We want to be married. I'm staying married. 1906 02:12:29,360 --> 02:12:31,360 Speaker 1: I want to stay man. You're staying marry I got. 1907 02:12:31,960 --> 02:12:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm not giving her half of anything. Holy ship. I 1908 02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:49,240 Speaker 1: don't know how to take that. Those ship stop nigger. Yeah, 1909 02:12:49,760 --> 02:12:55,640 Speaker 1: me and you were clearly, but when you were before 1910 02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:59,440 Speaker 1: you met her. I don't know how it feels to 1911 02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:02,360 Speaker 1: have the number. Want R and B record and be 1912 02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:11,120 Speaker 1: outside finger popping everything? If how was it? Everything? He said, 1913 02:13:12,600 --> 02:13:16,160 Speaker 1: it's different. Let me let me just coming to my concert. 1914 02:13:16,280 --> 02:13:21,320 Speaker 1: Let me give me to Mattis like, wait a minute, 1915 02:13:26,400 --> 02:13:34,480 Speaker 1: it's been Let me help you going to do me 1916 02:13:34,560 --> 02:13:39,480 Speaker 1: a shot? Get your together. I need to hear this 1917 02:13:39,640 --> 02:13:42,600 Speaker 1: thing because I need to know and be as different 1918 02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:49,920 Speaker 1: you're different. Before I get to a city, I'll equated to. 1919 02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:51,480 Speaker 1: Now I do the numbers. For now. There are three 1920 02:13:51,560 --> 02:13:56,040 Speaker 1: to five there's three to five thousand women who are 1921 02:13:56,160 --> 02:14:01,280 Speaker 1: preparing themselves for tank to come in town. They got 1922 02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:07,720 Speaker 1: they got their wave caps. Maybe DA's Greece. Maybe you 1923 02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:10,720 Speaker 1: know when they're getting their nails done. They know when 1924 02:14:10,800 --> 02:14:14,280 Speaker 1: they're getting their hair done. The y'all fit has been purchased, 1925 02:14:16,160 --> 02:14:23,520 Speaker 1: The nails have been manicured and pedicured. The monkey has 1926 02:14:23,600 --> 02:14:28,200 Speaker 1: been either is either hairless or has a landing strip. 1927 02:14:29,120 --> 02:14:33,280 Speaker 1: Landing strip. Not because I'm gonna get to him, just 1928 02:14:33,520 --> 02:14:37,240 Speaker 1: because I'm into preparation for it all. They could get 1929 02:14:37,400 --> 02:14:41,400 Speaker 1: lucky with anybody. Don't got to beat me. But R 1930 02:14:41,480 --> 02:14:44,720 Speaker 1: and B dictates that at some point you're gonna get 1931 02:14:44,800 --> 02:14:51,120 Speaker 1: touched up. I'm trying to hold back my clap now 1932 02:14:52,080 --> 02:14:56,520 Speaker 1: imagined that all of that energy is really for me. 1933 02:14:59,800 --> 02:15:06,720 Speaker 1: I can pick, choose, and decide as I desire. Everybody 1934 02:15:06,760 --> 02:15:11,160 Speaker 1: else can deal with the rest. But a woman is hoping, 1935 02:15:12,480 --> 02:15:22,280 Speaker 1: she's been waiting to waiting and hoping to be chosen, 1936 02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:25,800 Speaker 1: because it only works if they choose. You know that, right. 1937 02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:29,520 Speaker 1: We can talk all the ship. We won't until a 1938 02:15:29,600 --> 02:15:33,640 Speaker 1: woman says it is so it don't happen. Are We're 1939 02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:36,120 Speaker 1: taking a shot to that real correct? But keep going 1940 02:15:36,200 --> 02:15:45,400 Speaker 1: with your patience. Mm hmm. That is what I walk into. 1941 02:15:46,840 --> 02:15:51,160 Speaker 1: I walk into a woman being the best she can 1942 02:15:51,240 --> 02:15:57,360 Speaker 1: be on that particular night, just because I'm in town. 1943 02:15:59,200 --> 02:16:04,720 Speaker 1: How do you not partect? And she chose you? She 1944 02:16:05,080 --> 02:16:12,960 Speaker 1: chose you. M I come from the house of Genuine, who, 1945 02:16:13,040 --> 02:16:17,600 Speaker 1: first of all, was the ultimate light skin and he 1946 02:16:17,680 --> 02:16:21,480 Speaker 1: had good hair. You ain't gonna beat him on stage, 1947 02:16:22,600 --> 02:16:24,880 Speaker 1: and you can't beat him up in real life because 1948 02:16:24,920 --> 02:16:27,760 Speaker 1: he will beat your motherfucking asks. For some reason, I 1949 02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:29,400 Speaker 1: think Gene want to know how to fight. I feel 1950 02:16:29,480 --> 02:16:35,080 Speaker 1: Genuine watches boxing from sun up to sundown. She always 1951 02:16:35,120 --> 02:16:40,720 Speaker 1: knew beat it your motherfucking asks if you think it's 1952 02:16:40,720 --> 02:16:47,840 Speaker 1: sweet right now, That's who I learned from. So I 1953 02:16:47,879 --> 02:16:53,080 Speaker 1: don't want I don't want every woman in my days, 1954 02:16:54,200 --> 02:17:02,400 Speaker 1: I wanted the right one. I discernment is as a gift, right. 1955 02:17:02,760 --> 02:17:04,480 Speaker 1: You don't gotta have every watch, you gotta have to 1956 02:17:04,520 --> 02:17:08,640 Speaker 1: write watch watch. I don't want every It's not even 1957 02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:13,320 Speaker 1: my thing. I've had threesome, spot some fives and got it. 1958 02:17:14,440 --> 02:17:21,400 Speaker 1: That ain't he would have kept going something and that 1959 02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:25,480 Speaker 1: doesn't I don't care about that. What What What I 1960 02:17:25,600 --> 02:17:29,360 Speaker 1: care about is taking a motherfucker part and putting them 1961 02:17:29,400 --> 02:17:36,200 Speaker 1: back together again. That's what I'm different. R and B 1962 02:17:38,320 --> 02:17:44,440 Speaker 1: R and B money, R and B money. I think 1963 02:17:44,480 --> 02:17:51,160 Speaker 1: you got a fan right now? Let me we we 1964 02:17:51,640 --> 02:17:55,200 Speaker 1: we before we interview anybody, we listened to their music 1965 02:17:55,640 --> 02:17:57,160 Speaker 1: and we was in here and this is let me 1966 02:17:57,200 --> 02:18:05,440 Speaker 1: just say something. This is the sexiest we ever felt that. Wait, 1967 02:18:05,600 --> 02:18:08,640 Speaker 1: let's listen. Listen, what what are you doing it for? 1968 02:18:10,360 --> 02:18:15,280 Speaker 1: You got your kids, You got either your wife or 1969 02:18:15,280 --> 02:18:17,000 Speaker 1: a few baby mamas that you got to make sure 1970 02:18:17,080 --> 02:18:20,960 Speaker 1: that the buildess covered. But what are you doing it for? 1971 02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:25,480 Speaker 1: So that so that the nigga would see you in 1972 02:18:25,520 --> 02:18:29,720 Speaker 1: the street it's say my nigga, or so that a 1973 02:18:29,800 --> 02:18:31,560 Speaker 1: woman will see you in the street and say, oh 1974 02:18:31,680 --> 02:18:39,840 Speaker 1: my god, that is him. Which one makes you feel 1975 02:18:39,920 --> 02:18:45,840 Speaker 1: like you are the man that you are. I'm through 1976 02:18:46,160 --> 02:18:49,879 Speaker 1: because you know what, because you know what through. Let 1977 02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:52,119 Speaker 1: me tell you why. Let me tell you why. It's 1978 02:18:52,160 --> 02:18:54,640 Speaker 1: like a one million per cent tell you that me 1979 02:18:54,720 --> 02:19:05,080 Speaker 1: and you have probably that the exact sit fans this 1980 02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:08,560 Speaker 1: of course for the most part, because what I'm saying 1981 02:19:08,680 --> 02:19:11,640 Speaker 1: is I can tell Nigga's come up to you and say, Nigga, 1982 02:19:11,640 --> 02:19:14,960 Speaker 1: I made a baby to you. Nigga's come up to 1983 02:19:15,040 --> 02:19:20,359 Speaker 1: me and be like, I went to jail to ship terrible. 1984 02:19:23,280 --> 02:19:35,120 Speaker 1: It's fine, but you're my friend. I think where you're going. Okay, yes, yes, right, 1985 02:19:35,160 --> 02:19:39,800 Speaker 1: that's right. Come on, that's right, Dane. Now, but that's 1986 02:19:39,879 --> 02:19:43,640 Speaker 1: real ship. How um. I've always wanted to have those fans. 1987 02:19:43,720 --> 02:19:45,920 Speaker 1: By the way, people said, nick I made a baby 1988 02:19:46,040 --> 02:19:51,840 Speaker 1: to your ship. It's a choice. Yes, you you are 1989 02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:56,840 Speaker 1: a product of your environment. Yes I'm fucked up. You 1990 02:19:56,920 --> 02:20:00,760 Speaker 1: product of your environment. I'm a product of my environment. 1991 02:20:01,640 --> 02:20:07,840 Speaker 1: Raised by my great grandmother, grandmother mother in the church, 1992 02:20:08,120 --> 02:20:13,440 Speaker 1: strong black woman receipt. Women opened the door, say thank you. 1993 02:20:13,879 --> 02:20:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. That's why I was raised. I'm out there 1994 02:20:18,959 --> 02:20:21,320 Speaker 1: trying to be trying to be a gangster disciple, and 1995 02:20:21,400 --> 02:20:22,880 Speaker 1: it's like, we're not gonna let you do none of 1996 02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:26,400 Speaker 1: this ship because your grandmama gonna kill us. I gotta 1997 02:20:26,440 --> 02:20:28,640 Speaker 1: pitch for it. Carved in my arm as we speak, 1998 02:20:29,560 --> 02:20:33,880 Speaker 1: that's disciples sign trying to be it, all of it. 1999 02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:39,200 Speaker 1: I wanted, man, you better go home. Your grandmama may 2000 02:20:39,280 --> 02:20:41,879 Speaker 1: want to play. My great grandfather said on the porch. 2001 02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:48,400 Speaker 1: Paul lewis with a shotgun and gangs. The gangsters would 2002 02:20:48,440 --> 02:20:53,760 Speaker 1: talk at the at the shrubbery before my house. He 2003 02:20:53,959 --> 02:21:04,879 Speaker 1: stand up on him. They stopped talking. When they got 2004 02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:07,840 Speaker 1: at the end of the shrubbery of our block, they 2005 02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:13,000 Speaker 1: started talking again. He sat out, put the shotgun. That swell, 2006 02:21:14,640 --> 02:21:17,800 Speaker 1: we're not fucking with you a little Darrell. You're not 2007 02:21:17,879 --> 02:21:23,000 Speaker 1: gonna be no gangster disciple. You're not now. Paul Louis 2008 02:21:23,000 --> 02:21:25,120 Speaker 1: gonna kill us if we bring you into this. I 2009 02:21:25,240 --> 02:21:28,160 Speaker 1: love our generations where I'm from. I love our generation. 2010 02:21:28,320 --> 02:21:33,240 Speaker 1: We would like listen. I love I love the stories 2011 02:21:33,320 --> 02:21:37,840 Speaker 1: like that. I was there. It was there was a 2012 02:21:37,920 --> 02:21:41,920 Speaker 1: shotgun pointed at me. In fifth grade, that's him right there. 2013 02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:45,600 Speaker 1: Get him. I said, I'm not him. I promise I'm 2014 02:21:45,640 --> 02:21:49,080 Speaker 1: not him. That's him. Nigga, no nigga front. He said, 2015 02:21:49,120 --> 02:21:55,040 Speaker 1: that's not him. Nick. I'm telling you that. M hm. 2016 02:21:55,920 --> 02:21:59,880 Speaker 1: That ain't sexy. If that's your life, if that's what 2017 02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:02,160 Speaker 1: you come from, I respect it. You gotta fight your 2018 02:22:02,200 --> 02:22:04,119 Speaker 1: way out. What I was trying to say, sorry, because 2019 02:22:04,840 --> 02:22:07,879 Speaker 1: is I love our generation. That generation that you're talking about, 2020 02:22:08,240 --> 02:22:11,000 Speaker 1: is because we protected our talents when we've seen somebody 2021 02:22:11,080 --> 02:22:15,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna make it somewhere. Kenny Anderson, Um, you know, 2022 02:22:15,680 --> 02:22:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm from Left Fact City, Keny Anderson from that Fact City, 2023 02:22:18,280 --> 02:22:21,360 Speaker 1: and I remember all the drug dealers coming together and 2024 02:22:21,720 --> 02:22:24,840 Speaker 1: chipping in to make sure Kenny Anderson never had to 2025 02:22:24,879 --> 02:22:27,360 Speaker 1: sell a drug, never had to do anything. So he 2026 02:22:27,480 --> 02:22:30,480 Speaker 1: was going through college and people I thought that, like 2027 02:22:30,560 --> 02:22:32,480 Speaker 1: the NBA was hitting them off, but it was all 2028 02:22:32,600 --> 02:22:35,080 Speaker 1: my prizes, just all people from my hood, was just 2029 02:22:35,160 --> 02:22:37,640 Speaker 1: making sure that you want to roll that gag, you know, 2030 02:22:37,959 --> 02:22:41,720 Speaker 1: go have this that goad, and that's not that's this 2031 02:22:41,800 --> 02:22:49,080 Speaker 1: generation that you just how I stayed there, I would 2032 02:22:49,080 --> 02:22:55,959 Speaker 1: have turned into a guy, right inevitable. Two cousins dead 2033 02:22:56,000 --> 02:23:01,879 Speaker 1: from murder m first cousin. He beat that from how 2034 02:23:01,959 --> 02:23:08,840 Speaker 1: he did it. He home God, bless God, bless um family. 2035 02:23:09,720 --> 02:23:17,000 Speaker 1: There were the guys we understand family like own bracelets. 2036 02:23:17,720 --> 02:23:20,880 Speaker 1: Five years, two years, three years too, his family right. 2037 02:23:21,400 --> 02:23:25,760 Speaker 1: I would have had no choice. That's what I'm supposed 2038 02:23:25,800 --> 02:23:29,880 Speaker 1: to be. I'm overachieved, so I win. We said that 2039 02:23:30,080 --> 02:23:37,240 Speaker 1: I win. Father said to my mother, I love you. 2040 02:23:37,360 --> 02:23:40,360 Speaker 1: With my family back, I'm staying in Maryland. I need you. 2041 02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:47,960 Speaker 1: Took me out of that to that. So your father 2042 02:23:48,000 --> 02:23:49,640 Speaker 1: and your mother broke up. And then your pop said, 2043 02:23:50,520 --> 02:23:54,040 Speaker 1: I need that, I need that, I need you, I 2044 02:23:54,120 --> 02:23:59,800 Speaker 1: need them. My pops, don't man up. I'm in the 2045 02:24:00,000 --> 02:24:04,840 Speaker 1: in intentury or dead. Pops said, no, I need that. 2046 02:24:05,640 --> 02:24:09,440 Speaker 1: And then that's when y'all move to a decent station 2047 02:24:09,520 --> 02:24:12,640 Speaker 1: on Andrews Air Force Base. And he gave me the 2048 02:24:12,640 --> 02:24:16,760 Speaker 1: whooping of my life, the beating of my life. That 2049 02:24:17,000 --> 02:24:22,800 Speaker 1: changed my life. What did you do? Seventh grade? We 2050 02:24:22,879 --> 02:24:25,560 Speaker 1: go to the principal's office for the I don't know 2051 02:24:25,760 --> 02:24:32,360 Speaker 1: tiph time, maybe ayby more. She says, if you take 2052 02:24:32,480 --> 02:24:39,480 Speaker 1: him home, I'll pass him. Just never bring him back. Wow, 2053 02:24:41,480 --> 02:24:48,480 Speaker 1: don't ever bring him back here. I'll pass him. I 2054 02:24:48,680 --> 02:24:51,760 Speaker 1: was that guy, got to ask you what you did everything? 2055 02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:56,800 Speaker 1: So the teacher, I'll whoop his ass. Tek me to 2056 02:24:56,879 --> 02:25:01,160 Speaker 1: deal with your father. Take him home, never bring him back, 2057 02:25:01,400 --> 02:25:04,039 Speaker 1: and I'll pass, and I'll pass. What great are we talking? 2058 02:25:04,200 --> 02:25:06,520 Speaker 1: Seven seventh grade? That said grade I dropped? It was 2059 02:25:06,760 --> 02:25:10,720 Speaker 1: I was an animal. If they won't do it, I'll 2060 02:25:10,760 --> 02:25:14,440 Speaker 1: do it. Then they scared, I'll do it. Punch the teacher. 2061 02:25:15,240 --> 02:25:20,360 Speaker 1: It scared. I punched the nigger. Oh are you making 2062 02:25:20,440 --> 02:25:26,760 Speaker 1: love music right now? Sir? You killed that? How far 2063 02:25:27,240 --> 02:25:34,680 Speaker 1: you killed that? That's why you're making Take him home? 2064 02:25:34,800 --> 02:25:38,480 Speaker 1: Never bring him back. My father looked at me and said, cool, 2065 02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:42,600 Speaker 1: I got him at the beating of my life. He 2066 02:25:42,720 --> 02:25:46,520 Speaker 1: bungs you home. He probably What's what I need to understand. 2067 02:25:47,160 --> 02:25:57,680 Speaker 1: Was it extension cord? You want black beatings? Extension cord 2068 02:25:58,080 --> 02:26:01,720 Speaker 1: familiar as I But yeah, we got well to everywhere 2069 02:26:03,560 --> 02:26:10,359 Speaker 1: and that next year, Now I can get detention once, 2070 02:26:11,560 --> 02:26:15,120 Speaker 1: and then the year after that, I found God. You 2071 02:26:15,200 --> 02:26:19,240 Speaker 1: never had to worry about anything. I just see my 2072 02:26:19,360 --> 02:26:22,200 Speaker 1: mom's this weekend, and my mother said I was the 2073 02:26:22,360 --> 02:26:27,040 Speaker 1: only child that she didn't beat you. Yeah, I was 2074 02:26:27,080 --> 02:26:34,880 Speaker 1: on what my friend you know about coming I don't 2075 02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:39,600 Speaker 1: know what did you felt it? You felt it? He 2076 02:26:40,200 --> 02:26:47,800 Speaker 1: didn't know anyone laughing? Any want to know this? Just 2077 02:26:47,959 --> 02:26:52,040 Speaker 1: nick want But I said it was Eila, and she 2078 02:26:52,160 --> 02:26:55,600 Speaker 1: said it was either you tricked me too much. Baby. 2079 02:26:55,920 --> 02:26:59,760 Speaker 1: This is my mother. By the way, Oh well, you 2080 02:26:59,840 --> 02:27:03,600 Speaker 1: know you would act, you would ask swift. Then my 2081 02:27:03,680 --> 02:27:06,120 Speaker 1: sister comes out and says exactly what he said. You 2082 02:27:06,240 --> 02:27:10,720 Speaker 1: should have been catching on. He was foul. I don't want, 2083 02:27:11,600 --> 02:27:15,119 Speaker 1: but this is a famous story about me in my hood, 2084 02:27:16,240 --> 02:27:20,200 Speaker 1: how I jumped off the fifth floor? What all right? 2085 02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:26,000 Speaker 1: The police came, right, and so my sister tells the story. 2086 02:27:26,040 --> 02:27:28,160 Speaker 1: By the way, I've never told his story because I 2087 02:27:28,200 --> 02:27:33,000 Speaker 1: don't really think people care. Right, I got this, I 2088 02:27:33,120 --> 02:27:39,240 Speaker 1: got this. So yeah, so my sister said, a story, 2089 02:27:39,760 --> 02:27:43,800 Speaker 1: listen nor we jumped off the fifth floor because the 2090 02:27:43,840 --> 02:27:46,080 Speaker 1: police is coming from him. So I'm like, all right, cool, 2091 02:27:46,160 --> 02:27:50,879 Speaker 1: we're laughing whatever whatever we feel me did me come out? 2092 02:27:50,920 --> 02:27:54,200 Speaker 1: And this this is this is my only astortionists ever 2093 02:27:54,400 --> 02:27:59,480 Speaker 1: in life? Is this lady name show extortionist? Yes? She 2094 02:27:59,640 --> 02:28:05,080 Speaker 1: just stort to me every time she sees me. I 2095 02:28:05,160 --> 02:28:10,040 Speaker 1: don't want to say why, but um with your every 2096 02:28:10,080 --> 02:28:16,119 Speaker 1: time I see on it whatever. And then she sees 2097 02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:19,360 Speaker 1: me and we're filming, and we're filming, and she goes 2098 02:28:21,080 --> 02:28:24,280 Speaker 1: all that gangster rap ship he'd be talking about. I 2099 02:28:24,400 --> 02:28:26,480 Speaker 1: bet you I don't know about when he jumped off 2100 02:28:26,560 --> 02:28:33,840 Speaker 1: the film flaws like the people we are sitting there filming, like, oh, 2101 02:28:33,959 --> 02:28:38,320 Speaker 1: this story is legend. So I say that, Just say 2102 02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm a motherfucking legening man. That's all we need. Let 2103 02:28:44,959 --> 02:28:47,000 Speaker 1: me ask you. I want to always ask you, what 2104 02:28:47,200 --> 02:28:52,120 Speaker 1: is your relationship with you and John? Yeah? I don't 2105 02:28:52,120 --> 02:28:55,000 Speaker 1: really have a relationship with John. I remember walking in 2106 02:28:55,600 --> 02:28:58,240 Speaker 1: I remember we were doing a ski a ski resort trip, 2107 02:28:58,600 --> 02:29:02,840 Speaker 1: met him with headliners Yeah and the ski resort, ski resort, 2108 02:29:03,160 --> 02:29:07,440 Speaker 1: and he was going to yeah, Upper New York, Okay, 2109 02:29:07,959 --> 02:29:09,879 Speaker 1: and he was going after me, which I didn't think 2110 02:29:09,920 --> 02:29:12,400 Speaker 1: was the right. But I was like, you know what 2111 02:29:12,520 --> 02:29:18,320 Speaker 1: you shooting. I'm gonna kick his right. I did not know. 2112 02:29:18,480 --> 02:29:21,640 Speaker 1: I did not know he's gonna I'm a killer, right. 2113 02:29:21,840 --> 02:29:25,080 Speaker 1: So I come back from the ski resort, which is 2114 02:29:25,120 --> 02:29:29,320 Speaker 1: an hour and a half away. M hmm. We went 2115 02:29:29,440 --> 02:29:32,600 Speaker 1: and eight at Applebee's on the way back. All that, 2116 02:29:33,560 --> 02:29:37,640 Speaker 1: and we get back and Johams in the lobby in 2117 02:29:37,800 --> 02:29:43,440 Speaker 1: show gear and and he's just before and I was like, oh, 2118 02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:46,960 Speaker 1: shoot you on the white niggas. He's like, now, I'm 2119 02:29:46,959 --> 02:29:50,240 Speaker 1: gonna let you have that champ. What do you mean? 2120 02:29:50,600 --> 02:29:52,840 Speaker 1: He's like, I ain't feeling it tonight. You know what 2121 02:29:52,840 --> 02:29:55,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying that you do your thing, baby. You know 2122 02:29:55,200 --> 02:30:00,600 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like it's all good. I said, what 2123 02:30:00,680 --> 02:30:04,080 Speaker 1: do you mean You're not going? No, no good, I'm good. 2124 02:30:04,280 --> 02:30:10,560 Speaker 1: I ain't got time for that tonight. He was the 2125 02:30:10,720 --> 02:30:14,160 Speaker 1: first guy I ever seen saying I don't feel like 2126 02:30:14,280 --> 02:30:20,520 Speaker 1: performing tonight. Good luck. But it feels like you're saying 2127 02:30:21,560 --> 02:30:26,240 Speaker 1: you felt like you don't feel like performing with you. Nope, 2128 02:30:26,600 --> 02:30:29,320 Speaker 1: what about me? What about you? What about me? What 2129 02:30:29,440 --> 02:30:33,720 Speaker 1: about nobody? Jahim literally marched to the beat of his 2130 02:30:33,800 --> 02:30:38,000 Speaker 1: own drum. If I don't feel like performing tonight, I'm 2131 02:30:38,120 --> 02:30:42,960 Speaker 1: not going to perform. M hmm. Period. That's gonna be 2132 02:30:43,040 --> 02:30:47,080 Speaker 1: a business mess. No, it's just it's it's it's here. 2133 02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he was threatened by you. I feel like, 2134 02:30:52,360 --> 02:30:54,800 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I feel like you're saying that, but 2135 02:30:55,320 --> 02:30:58,440 Speaker 1: he's not saying that. That's what I'm saying about that part. 2136 02:30:58,640 --> 02:31:01,640 Speaker 1: Most things are threatened by me because that's what you said. 2137 02:31:01,640 --> 02:31:05,040 Speaker 1: That's a fact. Niggas don't want to perform, don't want to. 2138 02:31:06,280 --> 02:31:09,440 Speaker 1: I got work because I don't just sing it. I 2139 02:31:09,560 --> 02:31:14,400 Speaker 1: write it and produce it. Honey, my ship is over 2140 02:31:14,480 --> 02:31:20,160 Speaker 1: sixty million out in the streets. So but he's not 2141 02:31:20,240 --> 02:31:22,600 Speaker 1: a guy that was concerned about that. He was a 2142 02:31:22,640 --> 02:31:24,760 Speaker 1: guy that was like, I'm gonna do what the funk 2143 02:31:24,800 --> 02:31:26,360 Speaker 1: I want to do when the funk I want to 2144 02:31:26,400 --> 02:31:29,480 Speaker 1: do it. M he was the first guy I've ever 2145 02:31:29,600 --> 02:31:31,920 Speaker 1: seen like that in R and B that said I'm 2146 02:31:31,920 --> 02:31:34,200 Speaker 1: gonna do what the funk I wanted to do. That's 2147 02:31:34,240 --> 02:31:37,320 Speaker 1: what Mack quietly, what made me want to do it? 2148 02:31:37,800 --> 02:31:40,000 Speaker 1: I told my manager Ja I said that that won't 2149 02:31:40,080 --> 02:31:43,080 Speaker 1: kill us, right A right, if it's right, we'll go. 2150 02:31:43,400 --> 02:31:53,840 Speaker 1: So not right, we won't. I asked Twitter Tank who 2151 02:31:54,000 --> 02:32:02,000 Speaker 1: was he against on versus nobody? You're asking the wrong question, 2152 02:32:04,280 --> 02:32:08,000 Speaker 1: kim Puis, I said, okay, you're sorry, kim Pits. You 2153 02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:11,080 Speaker 1: should have asked in Spanish man, who can do what 2154 02:32:11,240 --> 02:32:16,879 Speaker 1: the funk I do? Kim Putis, I said, who can 2155 02:32:17,280 --> 02:32:20,960 Speaker 1: write it, produce it, sing it and go number one? 2156 02:32:22,240 --> 02:32:26,920 Speaker 1: With nobody else in charge? Nobody else producing it, nobody 2157 02:32:26,959 --> 02:32:33,400 Speaker 1: else writing it, nobody else doing anything? Who else? Name one? 2158 02:32:34,840 --> 02:32:41,760 Speaker 1: Alligan can't kill us. I just want you to keep going, sir. 2159 02:32:43,040 --> 02:32:56,119 Speaker 1: You're saying place produce it, screaming no you can. I'm 2160 02:32:56,240 --> 02:33:00,560 Speaker 1: that guy. I can do it all and welcome to 2161 02:33:00,640 --> 02:33:03,000 Speaker 1: his studio by myself and walk out with an album 2162 02:33:03,560 --> 02:33:08,400 Speaker 1: and in Spanish English and in Spanish by myself, and 2163 02:33:08,560 --> 02:33:14,160 Speaker 1: go number one. So it's not the question is who's 2164 02:33:14,160 --> 02:33:18,600 Speaker 1: better than me? Who do you know? They can do that? 2165 02:33:19,160 --> 02:33:23,480 Speaker 1: Only one guy that was close. He's locked up. Okay, 2166 02:33:26,440 --> 02:33:28,560 Speaker 1: they got us jump me to beat me. They need 2167 02:33:28,680 --> 02:33:31,480 Speaker 1: the best producer, they need the best writers, They need 2168 02:33:31,560 --> 02:33:36,720 Speaker 1: the best choreographers too. To jump me by my motherfucking self, 2169 02:33:37,440 --> 02:33:41,960 Speaker 1: to name one? Taking a shot? Put this, put the 2170 02:33:42,040 --> 02:33:50,000 Speaker 1: liquer down. Who no name one? Dream? We need you, bro. 2171 02:33:50,280 --> 02:33:56,680 Speaker 1: He was talking to that ship earlier. Nobody who's gonna 2172 02:33:56,800 --> 02:34:01,440 Speaker 1: produce it, write it, sing it, go number one by himself? 2173 02:34:05,440 --> 02:34:11,600 Speaker 1: You name one? I'm going then ask me who the 2174 02:34:11,680 --> 02:34:17,120 Speaker 1: king is. Don't ask me that. I don't nobody to 2175 02:34:17,160 --> 02:34:29,640 Speaker 1: do what I do. Clap for that. I'm now gonna 2176 02:34:29,640 --> 02:34:32,000 Speaker 1: start of seeing a look at the story deal the 2177 02:34:32,040 --> 02:34:34,160 Speaker 1: story I see him do and say I want story 2178 02:34:34,200 --> 02:34:43,000 Speaker 1: do I want to? Not in past? Its right now. 2179 02:34:43,800 --> 02:34:50,240 Speaker 1: So right now, you're not bab your hand. I'm not 2180 02:34:50,440 --> 02:34:59,360 Speaker 1: battling nobody. I don't leave a break. God, maybe you 2181 02:34:59,400 --> 02:35:02,240 Speaker 1: could do it from that. Listen. I'll tell you honestly, 2182 02:35:02,240 --> 02:35:05,640 Speaker 1: I can't be R Kelly in the versus. Okay, that's hard. 2183 02:35:06,680 --> 02:35:08,440 Speaker 1: I can't so who you want? Who you want, like 2184 02:35:08,720 --> 02:35:12,800 Speaker 1: if Swiss, there's no there's nobody. I can't beat R 2185 02:35:12,920 --> 02:35:16,320 Speaker 1: Kelly in the versus. He is R Kelly. I can't 2186 02:35:16,360 --> 02:35:19,039 Speaker 1: beat him in the versus. In terms of who I am. 2187 02:35:19,400 --> 02:35:23,680 Speaker 1: There's nobody who does what I do. There's no producer, songwriter, 2188 02:35:24,240 --> 02:35:28,320 Speaker 1: singer who does what I do. There's nobody, Like, let's 2189 02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:32,840 Speaker 1: say us sure is the product of Jermaine dupri Confessions 2190 02:35:32,920 --> 02:35:36,600 Speaker 1: is his story. It's not. It's not us your story. 2191 02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:42,000 Speaker 1: It's his story. It's just it's be Cox at the produce, 2192 02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:46,119 Speaker 1: Brian Cox producing at that they gotta jump me. It's 2193 02:35:51,840 --> 02:35:56,200 Speaker 1: it's at the top of their game there. It's for 2194 02:35:56,520 --> 02:36:00,360 Speaker 1: people against me. So what about this song for song? 2195 02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:05,119 Speaker 1: Never mind song song for the song? It's five niggas 2196 02:36:05,160 --> 02:36:09,720 Speaker 1: on the song first me by myself as you against 2197 02:36:09,760 --> 02:36:16,039 Speaker 1: you on versus. Let's go tyrenks. Don't write or produce. 2198 02:36:16,840 --> 02:36:20,640 Speaker 1: He not me? I right for Jinua one. He not me. 2199 02:36:22,120 --> 02:36:28,960 Speaker 1: He's my mentor he's not me. Who's me? Listen? I 2200 02:36:29,080 --> 02:36:32,840 Speaker 1: gotta keep my ship straight? Who produces it right? It 2201 02:36:33,280 --> 02:36:43,200 Speaker 1: sings it? He's not me. You don't produce ship tree 2202 02:36:43,240 --> 02:36:49,119 Speaker 1: and no produced nothing, I thought, dreams nothing. I'm here 2203 02:36:50,200 --> 02:36:55,160 Speaker 1: from start to finish. The kick, the snare, whatever the 2204 02:36:55,240 --> 02:36:59,600 Speaker 1: pad is, whatever the memory line, that's me. I'm him 2205 02:37:01,240 --> 02:37:05,560 Speaker 1: your because there's only one Guy's goake it because there's 2206 02:37:05,600 --> 02:37:13,440 Speaker 1: only one guy. Because you're popping wow ships like a guy. 2207 02:37:13,840 --> 02:37:18,160 Speaker 1: You gotta take it or don't count. He's in jail. 2208 02:37:20,080 --> 02:37:22,600 Speaker 1: That could come close. That's what he came to me 2209 02:37:22,680 --> 02:37:24,920 Speaker 1: and said, they need to learn that ship you're doing. 2210 02:37:27,840 --> 02:37:29,920 Speaker 1: And you and your manager beat him in ball. When 2211 02:37:29,959 --> 02:37:36,640 Speaker 1: you want to beat his ask me and h he 2212 02:37:36,800 --> 02:37:40,280 Speaker 1: never wanted to give him the games. But let's not 2213 02:37:40,360 --> 02:37:44,120 Speaker 1: get it twisted. R Kelly is the king of R 2214 02:37:44,240 --> 02:37:49,840 Speaker 1: and B. Let's not get this ship twisted. Let this 2215 02:37:50,000 --> 02:37:54,560 Speaker 1: be your headline. R Kelly is the king of R 2216 02:37:54,680 --> 02:37:59,480 Speaker 1: and B. Whether you like it or not, I'm not 2217 02:38:00,040 --> 02:38:03,920 Speaker 1: don't need anything that he might have done outside of 2218 02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:10,120 Speaker 1: the real legalities. He's piano bitch. She's like a motherfucker. 2219 02:38:10,920 --> 02:38:16,520 Speaker 1: Who has believed I can fly? You stop it. I 2220 02:38:16,680 --> 02:38:22,120 Speaker 1: can't believe who has believe I can fly? No, no, no, no, 2221 02:38:23,320 --> 02:38:30,880 Speaker 1: who has done who has fiesta with jay Z the 2222 02:38:31,080 --> 02:38:36,840 Speaker 1: Goat a biggie. I don't care what you say, we 2223 02:38:36,959 --> 02:38:40,080 Speaker 1: will we will always be chasing the ghosts of our Kelly. 2224 02:38:41,360 --> 02:38:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't care how great I feel like I am. 2225 02:38:43,480 --> 02:38:45,720 Speaker 1: I know I am r. Kelly said, nigger, you got 2226 02:38:45,800 --> 02:38:47,720 Speaker 1: that falsetto. I don't know how you do that. You 2227 02:38:47,800 --> 02:38:51,280 Speaker 1: gotta teach me that ship. I respect it. I'm not 2228 02:38:51,440 --> 02:38:58,200 Speaker 1: him yet. I'm not him yet. I'm not I'm a 2229 02:38:58,280 --> 02:39:01,920 Speaker 1: problem mean that music. Let's music very musically. I am 2230 02:39:02,000 --> 02:39:05,959 Speaker 1: not him. We don't want to become him. Not him, right, Okay? 2231 02:39:06,640 --> 02:39:12,640 Speaker 1: You know Fortunate the Batchell thing, that's a Kelly. He 2232 02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:15,080 Speaker 1: wasn't going to give that record away. They said, in 2233 02:39:15,240 --> 02:39:18,280 Speaker 1: order to make do on your deal, you gotta give 2234 02:39:18,320 --> 02:39:23,679 Speaker 1: that to Max Will let him let him fortunate. Fortunate 2235 02:39:24,840 --> 02:39:32,400 Speaker 1: have you? Girl, I'm surprised I heard. I don't know 2236 02:39:32,480 --> 02:39:44,920 Speaker 1: what Kelly that was? Life live my life, life, life, Live, life, Live. 2237 02:39:45,879 --> 02:40:00,959 Speaker 1: That's a give, that's our killing, fucking kidding me. I got, 2238 02:40:01,120 --> 02:40:05,320 Speaker 1: I got a million miles before I beat him. He's 2239 02:40:05,360 --> 02:40:07,280 Speaker 1: the bar okay, none of he's on the niggas fun 2240 02:40:07,360 --> 02:40:12,000 Speaker 1: with me. He's the bar okay. How many people you 2241 02:40:12,080 --> 02:40:14,080 Speaker 1: think is right in R Kelly and jail right now? 2242 02:40:14,200 --> 02:40:18,400 Speaker 1: Like from R and B people A bunch a bunch, 2243 02:40:18,800 --> 02:40:21,720 Speaker 1: So no one really cut him off in ya world. 2244 02:40:23,520 --> 02:40:27,680 Speaker 1: I separated myself because he wasn't a friend of mine, 2245 02:40:28,800 --> 02:40:30,840 Speaker 1: be honest, and once you beat him in ball, he 2246 02:40:30,879 --> 02:40:34,560 Speaker 1: didn't like you. He's not earlier. He wasn't a friend 2247 02:40:34,640 --> 02:40:37,280 Speaker 1: and manager manager wanted to beat him every time. Every time. 2248 02:40:38,720 --> 02:40:41,400 Speaker 1: I wanted him to be a friend of mine. But 2249 02:40:42,480 --> 02:40:46,119 Speaker 1: because R. Kelly was R Kelly, he was the tip 2250 02:40:46,160 --> 02:40:48,400 Speaker 1: of the food chain, so he was like anything beneath 2251 02:40:48,440 --> 02:40:50,560 Speaker 1: me is beneath me. He really wasn't a nice guy, 2252 02:40:51,520 --> 02:40:54,160 Speaker 1: so he didn't sunk with me, but he foke with me. 2253 02:40:54,920 --> 02:40:56,280 Speaker 1: He foke with me because he knew what I was. 2254 02:40:57,120 --> 02:41:00,040 Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna give it to you, nigga that 2255 02:41:00,160 --> 02:41:06,240 Speaker 1: I earned it. Nigga old school wasn't that guy, and 2256 02:41:06,320 --> 02:41:09,120 Speaker 1: I respect him for it because I didn't want it 2257 02:41:09,320 --> 02:41:14,200 Speaker 1: given to me. Of course we all do. I wanted 2258 02:41:14,240 --> 02:41:16,840 Speaker 1: to beat you, nigga. I didn't get a chance to 2259 02:41:16,879 --> 02:41:21,880 Speaker 1: beat R. Kelly. Fans call me King, fans call me 2260 02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:25,520 Speaker 1: all sorts of names. I didn't get to beat the guy. 2261 02:41:26,640 --> 02:41:30,920 Speaker 1: I didn't get to beat R. Kelly. He beat a 2262 02:41:31,000 --> 02:41:33,040 Speaker 1: lot of ship right now, how did you get to 2263 02:41:33,080 --> 02:41:39,840 Speaker 1: beat him? He's the guy these things are Kelly Kelly 2264 02:41:39,959 --> 02:41:43,640 Speaker 1: was That was the headline of the arena tour. It 2265 02:41:43,800 --> 02:41:49,640 Speaker 1: was him. I didn't get to beat him, so I can't. 2266 02:41:53,080 --> 02:41:56,039 Speaker 1: I can't assume a title. I can't. I'm the General 2267 02:41:56,160 --> 02:41:59,520 Speaker 1: of R and B. That's the title was given. That's 2268 02:42:00,360 --> 02:42:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm in the filipedia. Then your nickname says the general. 2269 02:42:04,120 --> 02:42:07,680 Speaker 1: I'm in the field to sit on their thrones and 2270 02:42:07,840 --> 02:42:11,000 Speaker 1: watch people do battle. I'm in the field. But by 2271 02:42:11,040 --> 02:42:15,720 Speaker 1: the way, there's very few people who worked with Aliyah 2272 02:42:16,040 --> 02:42:26,520 Speaker 1: and R. Kelly. Listen, I'll say this Aaliyah gave me 2273 02:42:26,640 --> 02:42:31,480 Speaker 1: all the confidence I needed to step into this thing 2274 02:42:31,640 --> 02:42:35,080 Speaker 1: called R and B. Because before that I was just 2275 02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:40,600 Speaker 1: a church kid, singing church music and singing church and 2276 02:42:40,640 --> 02:42:42,640 Speaker 1: that wrong with being nothing wrong with it. But I 2277 02:42:42,800 --> 02:42:48,120 Speaker 1: wasn't ready you're a I was green. Aliah told me 2278 02:42:48,280 --> 02:42:56,000 Speaker 1: you're ready, You're ready for this ship, and like nothing 2279 02:42:56,280 --> 02:43:07,320 Speaker 1: valid Okay, get my a shot ready. Nothing validates you 2280 02:43:08,680 --> 02:43:16,160 Speaker 1: more than a woman real. When Aliah says you're that guy, 2281 02:43:17,480 --> 02:43:21,880 Speaker 1: all right, that makes all the difference in the world. 2282 02:43:24,520 --> 02:43:29,560 Speaker 1: Nothing trumps that. And when she said that to me, 2283 02:43:30,280 --> 02:43:36,320 Speaker 1: I tuck it and I ran with it. I said, 2284 02:43:36,520 --> 02:43:40,280 Speaker 1: Leah said it, so keep none of y'all funk with me. 2285 02:43:41,160 --> 02:43:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't care what none of y'all say. Elijah said, 2286 02:43:44,560 --> 02:43:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm him. Yeah, we'll funk what you say. I'm him. 2287 02:43:51,360 --> 02:43:56,800 Speaker 1: Because Elijah said so in genuine gave me. He gave 2288 02:43:56,840 --> 02:44:02,600 Speaker 1: me the He gave me the battle him. Let's just 2289 02:44:02,680 --> 02:44:06,800 Speaker 1: be clear, you are my shot, is right? I don't 2290 02:44:06,840 --> 02:44:12,800 Speaker 1: not right. He gave me the battery. Shout out to Jine, 2291 02:44:13,560 --> 02:44:19,000 Speaker 1: Shout out to Tyrese while vocal battle wrest in peace 2292 02:44:19,080 --> 02:44:27,440 Speaker 1: to Eliah. Yeah, vocal battle you Tyres. When Elia said 2293 02:44:27,480 --> 02:44:30,400 Speaker 1: you him, yeah, you know you him? You are him 2294 02:44:31,280 --> 02:44:33,879 Speaker 1: guy Tyres tried to battle me in his early days, 2295 02:44:35,520 --> 02:44:40,280 Speaker 1: said Nicky, you're not me, I'm him. Kicked his ass. 2296 02:44:41,240 --> 02:44:45,560 Speaker 1: How does a vocal battle go? Run for run? So 2297 02:44:45,640 --> 02:44:51,480 Speaker 1: what do you it's not that, it's not that, it's 2298 02:44:51,520 --> 02:44:55,760 Speaker 1: not that, it's not what he just did. I promise you, 2299 02:44:55,840 --> 02:44:59,920 Speaker 1: it's not tarres to tell you we wouldn't run for 2300 02:45:00,080 --> 02:45:04,080 Speaker 1: run on the e O L Elements of Life video, 2301 02:45:04,160 --> 02:45:08,440 Speaker 1: shoot we want note for note And I said, this 2302 02:45:08,680 --> 02:45:13,520 Speaker 1: is why I'm different. Mm hmmm. And he said, and 2303 02:45:13,600 --> 02:45:18,160 Speaker 1: that's when he became my friend. M Eliyah said, you're different. 2304 02:45:19,480 --> 02:45:22,560 Speaker 1: I got you. This is what you should be and 2305 02:45:22,680 --> 02:45:25,520 Speaker 1: everything she said I should be, that's what I became, 2306 02:45:28,640 --> 02:45:34,680 Speaker 1: nothing less. I become nothing less than what Elijah said 2307 02:45:34,720 --> 02:45:38,080 Speaker 1: I should be. And Genuine is sitting at his house, 2308 02:45:38,800 --> 02:45:43,040 Speaker 1: rich with bags of money, saying, that's my son. I 2309 02:45:43,240 --> 02:45:46,240 Speaker 1: told him he was gonna be that. It's fire. That's 2310 02:45:46,280 --> 02:45:49,360 Speaker 1: what the funk I am. So when these niggas started 2311 02:45:49,360 --> 02:45:52,520 Speaker 1: talking about King and all this other ships they're talking 2312 02:45:52,520 --> 02:45:55,760 Speaker 1: about twenty two years in, I'm number one right now. 2313 02:45:57,240 --> 02:46:10,440 Speaker 1: Come see me, nigga. I love this. You know why 2314 02:46:10,480 --> 02:46:13,880 Speaker 1: I love this. I'm gonna tell you why I love this, 2315 02:46:13,959 --> 02:46:20,320 Speaker 1: because um, you've given us all you this is one 2316 02:46:20,400 --> 02:46:24,280 Speaker 1: million for saying you. And I watched the interviews on 2317 02:46:24,360 --> 02:46:27,040 Speaker 1: the Burthos Club. I watched it and I was so 2318 02:46:27,560 --> 02:46:29,360 Speaker 1: happy to meet you. That I mean to see you 2319 02:46:29,480 --> 02:46:31,360 Speaker 1: that day, not to meet you, that to me and 2320 02:46:31,440 --> 02:46:36,279 Speaker 1: you and then for you to bring your whole energy 2321 02:46:36,360 --> 02:46:39,440 Speaker 1: into fruition like like I said this, wrappers will out 2322 02:46:39,480 --> 02:46:44,840 Speaker 1: of me and say and I called him good, you 2323 02:46:44,920 --> 02:46:49,240 Speaker 1: know whatever, But you kept your word from the minute 2324 02:46:50,160 --> 02:46:53,240 Speaker 1: we've seen each other again reconnected and I know for 2325 02:46:53,440 --> 02:46:56,920 Speaker 1: one million but sent you're a real person and I 2326 02:46:57,040 --> 02:46:58,640 Speaker 1: just want to salute that. I just want to get 2327 02:46:58,680 --> 02:47:05,480 Speaker 1: you your flowers. I also want them before you say something, 2328 02:47:05,800 --> 02:47:08,920 Speaker 1: but I also want one thing to tell you. Thank 2329 02:47:09,000 --> 02:47:12,440 Speaker 1: you A whole legend out my nigga niggers like I 2330 02:47:12,560 --> 02:47:17,280 Speaker 1: cause just a tiny bit of what I'm here is 2331 02:47:18,240 --> 02:47:21,240 Speaker 1: sometimes you're still fighting for something that's already given to you. 2332 02:47:23,240 --> 02:47:26,360 Speaker 1: We all respect you, we all salute you. We all 2333 02:47:26,640 --> 02:47:30,800 Speaker 1: know like you that guy, We all know that. You 2334 02:47:30,840 --> 02:47:34,040 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you know what's crazy about 2335 02:47:34,320 --> 02:47:36,680 Speaker 1: us is the more money we get, you more whatever, 2336 02:47:37,120 --> 02:47:39,879 Speaker 1: and sometimes we try to fight for something that's already ours. 2337 02:47:40,720 --> 02:47:43,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I had to learn that. 2338 02:47:43,800 --> 02:47:48,040 Speaker 1: I had to learn that is you know. Um, so 2339 02:47:48,080 --> 02:47:50,560 Speaker 1: many people keep every time I go on Twitter, They're like, 2340 02:47:51,040 --> 02:47:53,560 Speaker 1: we want people to interview you and e fan because 2341 02:47:53,600 --> 02:47:55,920 Speaker 1: y'all give out flowers, but as y'all turn to get 2342 02:47:55,959 --> 02:48:00,720 Speaker 1: the flowers, and and my response is, uh, when we 2343 02:48:00,840 --> 02:48:04,000 Speaker 1: give out the flowers, that is all flowers too. You 2344 02:48:04,040 --> 02:48:06,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, That as all flowers too. And 2345 02:48:06,840 --> 02:48:11,680 Speaker 1: I just want you to know Tank, your music is endless. 2346 02:48:16,879 --> 02:48:20,120 Speaker 1: I've studied you, know you. I consider you my friend, 2347 02:48:20,400 --> 02:48:22,360 Speaker 1: but I studied you because I wanted to be like 2348 02:48:22,800 --> 02:48:25,680 Speaker 1: and what I said is like, damn, this is probably 2349 02:48:25,760 --> 02:48:33,240 Speaker 1: the last R and B real person like left. And 2350 02:48:34,320 --> 02:48:37,840 Speaker 1: everything about the way you you transition your music, the 2351 02:48:37,879 --> 02:48:40,959 Speaker 1: way you put it together, the way everything is exactly. 2352 02:48:41,120 --> 02:48:43,720 Speaker 1: I used to buy tapes called slow jams kicking pre 2353 02:48:45,080 --> 02:48:47,000 Speaker 1: you still you kicking for us to make these these 2354 02:48:47,240 --> 02:48:50,360 Speaker 1: these tapes called slow dams, and I would go and 2355 02:48:50,720 --> 02:48:54,360 Speaker 1: that would be my you know, there would be my 2356 02:48:54,520 --> 02:48:57,440 Speaker 1: way to try to get a girl. I'm playing the 2357 02:48:57,520 --> 02:49:02,080 Speaker 1: slow jams and me just me, just listening to your joint. 2358 02:49:02,320 --> 02:49:06,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this is just this is real music. 2359 02:49:07,400 --> 02:49:11,760 Speaker 1: This is real music. You make real music. We love you, 2360 02:49:12,000 --> 02:49:15,360 Speaker 1: we respect you, we honor you. And it's in case 2361 02:49:15,440 --> 02:49:20,840 Speaker 1: you've never knew the ship that you do matters? And 2362 02:49:21,040 --> 02:49:27,840 Speaker 1: were motherfucker was like that, motherfucker it matters. Bro. I've 2363 02:49:27,879 --> 02:49:30,080 Speaker 1: been studying you for since I've seen you in l 2364 02:49:30,160 --> 02:49:32,840 Speaker 1: A and I was just like, I was like, damn, 2365 02:49:34,360 --> 02:49:41,440 Speaker 1: is that people making real music, real music feelings where 2366 02:49:41,480 --> 02:49:43,760 Speaker 1: you feel it in your feelings. And I gotta give 2367 02:49:43,800 --> 02:49:47,000 Speaker 1: those people power. Yes, I got to use my moment 2368 02:49:47,360 --> 02:49:49,200 Speaker 1: as I am number one, It's not just about me. 2369 02:49:50,640 --> 02:49:52,879 Speaker 1: How do I empower the next artist to be number 2370 02:49:52,920 --> 02:49:58,720 Speaker 1: one on R and B radio? How that's the point 2371 02:49:59,160 --> 02:50:01,800 Speaker 1: we went to, good shot. I have a little bathroom, 2372 02:50:01,879 --> 02:50:03,800 Speaker 1: but come down to the shot. Did you go to 2373 02:50:03,800 --> 02:50:07,879 Speaker 1: the bathroomlet's do let's go, let's do shot. Bathroom, then shot, 2374 02:50:08,240 --> 02:50:11,280 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna drinke some pictures and let's just changing. 2375 02:50:12,320 --> 02:50:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry because I don't want to prolong the shot, 2376 02:50:14,640 --> 02:50:18,119 Speaker 1: but I also want to get your flowers. I really 2377 02:50:18,200 --> 02:50:21,840 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming here. I really appreciate you, you know, 2378 02:50:21,959 --> 02:50:28,280 Speaker 1: sharing your story, you know, being real, vulnerable, humble, cocky, 2379 02:50:28,400 --> 02:50:31,880 Speaker 1: all on the same the same token. It's all the 2380 02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:35,520 Speaker 1: same token on the table. But thank you so much 2381 02:50:35,560 --> 02:50:37,880 Speaker 1: for being the real you, because you're gonna came in 2382 02:50:38,000 --> 02:50:39,959 Speaker 1: and did and did you know, and by the way, 2383 02:50:40,480 --> 02:50:42,480 Speaker 1: you're drinking that whole deli on boy. We will get 2384 02:50:42,480 --> 02:50:53,480 Speaker 1: you a deal. We don't get you deal myself. It's 2385 02:50:53,560 --> 02:50:58,440 Speaker 1: the bathroom. And then thanks for joining us for another 2386 02:50:58,520 --> 02:51:00,880 Speaker 1: episode of Drink Chance Holds the by yours truly, d 2387 02:51:01,040 --> 02:51:03,400 Speaker 1: J e f N and n O r E. 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