1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Betting Pros. It's time to place 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: your bets. It is me Joey Pig Joep's APA, and 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: today we're going to take a look into the futures 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: market with some contenders. That's right. These are the teams 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: that have a lot of expectation heading into twenty twenty 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: three on the NFL side, And this is a tough 7 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: market to gauge because the public is always very in 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: on these big time contending teams with the big superstars 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: with big expectations. But as we all know, sometimes those 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: expectations can fall a little bit short. And to help 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: us break it down where you should place those bets 12 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: of yours is my good friend Pat fitzmoor Is from 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Betting Pros, and Pat, I know you and I both 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: like to at times target those teams that we think 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: are kind of on the horizon on the op the 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: ones that the market really hasn't caught up to yet. 17 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: But today we're going to talk about those teams where 18 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: the market is set and the expectations is high. Do 19 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: you see these contenders sometimes being a big trap for 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: those people looking to make good investments. 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 2: They can be Joe and I do think we are 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: maybe initial drawn to some of the teams that are 23 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 2: considered longer shots, and you know, identifying the ones we like, 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 2: and they generally provide more exotic payouts, so maybe that's 25 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: why we're looking at them in the first place. But 26 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: the contenders, they're the contenders for a reason. They have 27 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: the best chances, and even though the odds are a 28 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 2: little lower, sometimes you're going to find value with the contenders. 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And the way to say on top of 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: all that value we all know is to download that 31 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: Betting Pros app. That way you can track all your bets, 32 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: sink all your sports books, and we're gonna be using 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: the Betting Pros system here for these picks today. So 34 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: what I went and did here is I'm looking at 35 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: for the best odds that I can find on betting Pros. 36 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: For those of you who still don't know, Betting Pros 37 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: gives you all the different sites at once. They can 38 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: make your wagers and at cherry picks the best ones 39 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: with the best odds so you can make the most money. 40 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: That sounds good, doesn't it. Don't forget to subscribe to 41 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: Betting Pros on YouTube wherever you get your pods to 42 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: and click that little bell on YouTube for notifications, so 43 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: you know every time a piece of content drops here 44 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: on BP. We're going to take you three some of 45 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: the win totals of these contenders. We're going to look 46 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: at some of the odds to make the playoffs, and 47 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: also some of the odds on these big favorites to 48 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: not only win their conference, but maybe even get to 49 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: the super Bowl as well. So, FITZI, I want to 50 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: start with the Baltimore Ravens. This is a team with 51 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: I would say, renewed expectations, a team that all of 52 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: a sudden now has a very happy quarterback who got 53 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: paid in Lamar Jackson, a new offensive coordinator in Todd Munkin, 54 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: not to mention some new weapons Jave Flowers, and the 55 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: draft Odell Beckham junior, maybe even a healthy Reshod Bateman. 56 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: The number right now for them on betting pros is 57 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: nine and a half. That's the best number on the 58 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: over you can get, but the juice is heavy minus 59 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: one sixty. That's not appealing. The under, however, is interesting 60 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: because we're at ten and a half there on the 61 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: number minus one fifteen, Pat, can you write a script 62 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 1: here where so much new here, despite the expectations, might 63 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: hold this team back and they could end up being 64 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: maybe a ten and seven squad at the end of 65 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: the day. 66 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: It's possible, Joe. 67 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe the offense doesn't take flight under Todd 68 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: Monkin right away. Maybe Lamar isn't super crisp coming back 69 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: from the injury. So yeah, I don't know if there's 70 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 2: value to the over if I had to make a choice, Yes, 71 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: I do think the Ravens are probably going to finish 72 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: with more than nine and a half wins, But at 73 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: minus one sixty, I'm not sure I see the value 74 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: to betting at part of it, Joe, Like, the AFC 75 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 2: North is tough. It's one of the two divisions along 76 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 2: with the NFC North that probably any team could win 77 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: any of the four teams. And while the NFC North 78 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: is four sort of mediocre teams, in the AFC North 79 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: it's it's four pretty good teams. And yes, the non 80 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: divisional schedules a little bit easier for the Ravens with 81 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: the AFC SOUTHFC West. 82 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: So while there are no pushovers. 83 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: In division, out of division yet they get the Texans, 84 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: the Titans, the Cardinals, the Rams, So yeah, leaning over here, 85 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: but I know it could conceivably finish under ten and 86 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: a half. I just don't know if the payoff is 87 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: enticing enough at minus one fifteen. 88 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a dangerous one for me. I'm going to 89 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: lean towards the under. I think they are right at 90 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: ten and it's it's tricky because you mentioned the out 91 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 1: of division schedule. Maybe a little bit more on their size, 92 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: especially the non conference one. But I'm looking at improvement 93 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: from the Steelers. I'm looking improvement hopefully from the Cleveland 94 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: Browns two. And as you're right, this is a dogfight 95 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: here in the AFC North. Another team too with expectations 96 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: the last few years, the Buffalo Bills. Now we know 97 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: the Bills number is ten and a half here on 98 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: betting pros the over minus one thirty four, the under 99 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: at plus one twenty eight. Interesting, you're getting plus money 100 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: here on the Buffalo Bills on the under at ten 101 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: and a half, not an enormous number. Again, we're looking 102 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: at the Jets making a step forward. We saw the 103 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins do well last year. We saw this offseason 104 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: the Patriots address their offensive coordinator issue and it was 105 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: a huge issue. I'm a little concern pat that maybe 106 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills window is starting to close a little bit. 107 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: I think that Sean McDermott calling the plays now on 108 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: the defensive side reeks a little bit of desperation to me. 109 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: And I saw that team the last year or so 110 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: get a little older on defense, a little slower on defense. 111 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: I have some concerns about the Bills this year. Do 112 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: you have any concerns about this number of ten and 113 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: a half? You go in the over the under, you're 114 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: staying away. 115 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: I think I'm staying away, Joe. But if I were 116 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: going to bet this one, I would probably be drawn 117 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: to the under. And you said it the defense. Granted, 118 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 2: the Bills were number one in overall DVA last year, 119 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: like they were a very good team, but we saw 120 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: the defense get pushed around a little bit in the playoffs, 121 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: which were not used to seeing. This division has gotten tougher. 122 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 2: The Miami is a contender now, like they're legitimate on 123 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. The Jets have a real 124 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: quarterback now, so and you know they already had one 125 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 2: of the better defenses in the league. They're going to 126 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 2: be tough. And maybe the Patriots with a real play 127 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: caller Bill O'Brien coming in, can you know, get them 128 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 2: to playoff contention again? So very difficult division for the Bills. 129 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: And listen to this stretch they have shoe from week 130 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 2: eleven to week sixteen. If you're betting the over on 131 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: the Bills, you better hope they stack wins early because 132 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: in week eleven they're at home against the Jets, then 133 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 2: they're at the Eagles a bye, then at the Chiefs, 134 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: at home against the Cowboys, and at the Chargers. That 135 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 2: is a murderous stretch of games right there. They could 136 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: easily go one and four there. They're a good team 137 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: that could also go four and one. But yeah, I 138 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: just don't get the feeling the Bills are going to 139 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: be bully of the AFC this year and you know, 140 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: stack up thirteen fourteen wins. 141 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, they stacked up thirteen last year, but they were 142 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: only four and two in the division last year, and 143 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: I think the division got a little bit better and 144 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: more competitive. The Cincinnati Bengals are kind of a tough 145 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: one right now, but there might be some opportunity with 146 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow on certain to start the season on time. 147 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: As we're recording this year in early August. The over 148 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: on them is at eleven and a half plus one 149 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: point thirty. The under at obviously eleven and a half 150 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: as well minus one forty four. Now, this was a 151 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: team last year that did handle their business. They were 152 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: twelve and four. They were six and one at home, 153 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: six and three on the road. They were, however, five 154 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: hundred in this very tough division. I think they can 155 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: get back to twelve wins and with the plus money. 156 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: To me, this is the better wager. I do believe 157 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: it is going to be a struggle to get there, 158 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: but at the same time, I have a lot of 159 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: faith in the quarterback and Joe Burrow as long as 160 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: he is healthy in the beginning of the season to start, 161 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: I think this number is achievable. But I'm waiting on 162 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: this one because I think you have to a little 163 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: bit to have a little bit more clarity. What are 164 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Bengals number at eleven and a half. 165 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, the waiting is that a reference to the Joe 166 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: Burrow injury. Yeah, that's certainly important. And like the Bengals 167 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: defense is good but not great right now. It's a 168 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: solid unit, not exceptional. Angles ranked eighteenth in special teams 169 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: DVOA last year, so very average to below average. There 170 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: the offense is loaded, but this Burrough calf injury, like 171 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: if he's not at one hundred percent to start the season, 172 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: that could be problematic. And it doesn't inspire unwavering confidence 173 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: in me in betting over eleven and a half wins 174 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: when they're going to have to come out hot to 175 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: get to that number. I don't know that I love 176 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: them under eleven and a half either, Joe, especially when 177 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: the juice is minus one forty four. So I'm inclined 178 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: to maybe not play this one. 179 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: This might be one of the most fascinating ones we're 180 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: going to talk about because Pat the Lions don't usually 181 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: show up in the Contender show. I would say maybe 182 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: the last I don't know, ten fifteen, twenty something years, 183 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: the Lions and Contenders really have a gone hand in glove. 184 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: But now here we are, they are sitting as the 185 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: favorites to win the NFC North. They are sitting at 186 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: nine and a half as the number. The over on 187 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: that nine and a half minus one twenty one, the 188 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: under one and a half at plus one fifteen. Now, 189 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: just to kind of recap last year, what happened with 190 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: the Lions. They did get to nine wins. They were 191 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: five and four at home, five hundred on the road, 192 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: five and one in the division though, and this division 193 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: is a little money because we have Jordan Love playing 194 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: quarterback for the Packers. Now we have the Bears trying 195 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: to take a step forward. The Vikings are the Vikings. 196 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: We know what they are, and we know what their 197 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: pluses are and their deficits. But you're looking at the 198 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: Lions too, as a team that for the first time 199 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: is not playing the plucky underdog and all of a 200 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: sudden as expectations. Isn't that a tougher road And do 201 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: you think the weight of those expectations could lead them 202 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: to the under? And if so, the under is interesting 203 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: because you're getting plus one fifteen on it. 204 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 2: It's funny, Joe, we see this very generous win total 205 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: of nine and a half for the Lions, and it's 206 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: actually been bet up so that it's, you know, like, 207 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 2: you get plus money on betting the under. And Joe, 208 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 2: you and I have been watching football for a long time. 209 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 2: We're fellow gray beards. When is the last time you've 210 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 2: seen this much public enthusiasm for the Honolulu Blue of 211 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,359 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions. 212 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: Many many years, Barry saying, I mean Scott Mitchell, Herman Moore. 213 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: These are the names that come to mind many a 214 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving disappointment. But yes, yeah, I mean it was it 215 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: was a small window, Let's be honest. I think that 216 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: maybe had it during the Stafford Calvin Johnson era, a 217 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: little bit of hope, but unfortunately the defense has just 218 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: never really panned out there. 219 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just wonder, like this is clearly a 220 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: better team and a good team, a playoff contender, no 221 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: question about it. But I do wonder if the Lions 222 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: are maybe still in a talent consolidation phase where they've 223 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: added these new pieces and still haven't quite put them 224 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: all together just yet. Yes, a soft divisional schedule, and 225 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: they play all the teams from the AFC West in 226 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: the NFC South, which is generally favorable. The offense could 227 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: be really good, but then again, it's Jared Goff, who 228 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: I think at best is probably a league average starting quarterback, 229 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 2: and maybe that's generous. And then you know, we've got 230 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: a defense that ranked twenty eighth and. 231 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: DVOA last year. 232 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 2: So yes, they have made personnel upgrades on that side 233 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: of the ball. But I don't know if this turns into, 234 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: you know, a Jets caliber defense in one year. 235 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: It's gonna take time, I think. 236 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: So it's not like they're gonna be lights out on 237 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: defense right off the bat. And I just wonder if 238 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: this is a team that can get to double digits 239 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: on wins. I think at plus money, I'm inclined to 240 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: bet under nine and a half. I don't think they're 241 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 2: quite ready for prime time yet. 242 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: Joe, Yeah, I tend to agree with you, and I 243 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: think this is gonna be really interesting. I think teams 244 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: react far differently when all of a sudden, they're not 245 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: the underdog, they're the favorite. We see it in every sport. 246 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: It's a little bit tougher when you have expectations weighing 247 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: on those shoulders. All right. Another team that is okay 248 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: and comfortable with expectations is the Kansas City Chiefs. They've 249 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: been to plenty of Super Bowls in the last four years. 250 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: And you're looking at the Chiefs right now. That number 251 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: is eleven and a half minus one point thirty four 252 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: on the on the under plus money, one fifteen, and 253 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, Pat, for me, I'm teasing this 254 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: number up, and I'm trying to get a better number 255 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: because I still believe in the Chiefs. They were seven 256 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: and two on the road last year, six to zero, 257 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: undefeated in that division. The Chargers are always going to Charger. 258 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: I know Sean Payton's there, and I think Denver is 259 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: going to be more competitive, but competitive and wins don't 260 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: always necessarily mean the same thing. The Raiders look like 261 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: a hot mess potentially, so. I mean, the Chiefs won 262 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: fourteen games last year and somehow year over year, got 263 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: younger and faster on offense. The defense is pretty much 264 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: in tact, so is the offensive line. To me, this 265 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: is again a thirteen to fourteen win team. I would 266 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: tease this up to get twelve, to be honest, twelve 267 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: and a half and take the over then and hopefully 268 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: get a better number than the minus. How do you 269 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: approach the Chiefs probably the most public team in the 270 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: NFL right now, the biggest contender. 271 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, this team's success has been like a metronome under 272 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: Andy Reid. It's just they're so reliable and they've averaged 273 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: eleven point seven regular season wins in Reed's ten season 274 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: as head coach. You mentioned the Division, Joe, Like, really, 275 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 2: I think even four and two might be mildly disappointing 276 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: in division. The Chiefs could easily go five and one, 277 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: six to zero in this division. And yeah, they're always 278 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: going to have a potent offense with Patrick Mahomes there. 279 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: But I love what they did last year in the 280 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two draft to beef up their defensive infrastructure. 281 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: They already had some blue Chippers with Chris Jones, Nick Bolton, 282 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: Lugerius Snead, and then they added Trent McDuffie, Brian Cook, 283 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 2: George carloftis Leo Chanel. So they've got a deep defense 284 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: now and maybe this could be the best defense they've 285 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: had in the Andy Reid era. And they've added some 286 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: interesting pieces on offense too, especially with the pass catchers. So, yeah, 287 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 2: they lost Orlando Brown junior, they're starting left tackle, one 288 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 2: of the better ones in the league. But that's really 289 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: the only significant personnel loss they had in the offseason. 290 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: And I'm with you, like I like the over and 291 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm not shy about maybe pushing it to twelve and 292 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: a half and getting a better number. 293 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: Twelve is where I want to live with that one. 294 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: I think they can easily get back to thirteen. I 295 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: think that's problem. Fourteen is certainly in their sphere too, 296 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: And some of these we've already made wagers on. One 297 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: of them that I've already made wager ons the Philadelphia Eagles. 298 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: And if you want to follow what we're into, you 299 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: can do that at bettingpros dot com slash Joe or 300 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: bettingpros dot com slash pat Follow us over there and 301 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: you could see what we're in and you can get 302 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: in on that as well, so we can all go 303 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: ahead and make bank together. It's a fun way to 304 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: do that. And of course, if you use the premium 305 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: tools at betting Pros, which we highly recommend giving it 306 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: a shot, you can go to bettingpros dot com slash 307 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: upgrade to go ahead and make sure you get the 308 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: best betting tools on the planet. Over on the premium 309 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: side of things, then you can go ahead and not 310 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: only track your own bets, track hours, unlock a lot 311 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: of custom analysis for your betting performance. But the Eagles 312 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: are a team path that I am very much on 313 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: this year because to me, the Eagles are the class 314 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: of the NFC. I don't see a team of the 315 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: NFC really that can challenge them on both sides of 316 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: this football. Well, normally I'm fading teams coming off tough 317 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl losses, but the Eagles on defense got younger 318 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: and faster. The Eagles looked like a team that was 319 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: right hanging with there with the Chiefs, which is no 320 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: easy task. The number for them is eleven and a half. 321 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: The overs at plus one twenty I'm all in. The 322 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: under is minus one twenty five. Already have Eagle shares 323 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: for the conference winner even to get back to the 324 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: super Bowl and this win total. Frankly, Pat, I'm looking 325 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: at it and I'm over there as well. I can't 326 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: believe you can still get plus money for a team 327 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: that won fourteen games last year. What are your thoughts 328 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: on the Eagles? And I know the division's more competitive 329 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys and Giants, but I still feel real 330 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: confident in the Eagles. How do you feel? 331 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a tough division and Dallas is probably 332 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 2: the second best team in the NFC. But I'm with you, Joe. 333 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 2: I do think the Eagles are the class of the NFC, 334 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: and getting them over eleven and a half at plus 335 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: money is pretty irresistible. I mean this was a team 336 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 2: that ranked third in offensive DVA last year, sixth in 337 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 2: defensive DVA and they've added p Yeah, they lost a few, 338 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: especially on defense, but you know Howie Roseman not resting 339 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: on his laurels, always looking for ways to upgrade. The 340 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: team made some interesting moves in the draft, bringing in 341 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: more firepower from the University of Georgia and that lights 342 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: out defense. So yeah, this is still going to be 343 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: a really good team, and I'm inclined to bet the 344 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: over on this win total. 345 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: All right. The one, to me, the contender that has 346 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: the most questions is the San Francisco forty nine Ers. 347 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: I mentioned before about the Buffalo Bills feeling like a 348 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: team where the window is tightening for them, and I 349 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: kind of have the same feeling about the forty nine ers. Yes, 350 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: they're load of the defense is still very good, They've 351 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: got a lot of offensive weapons. But the quarterback uncertainty 352 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: to me, is an issue Rock Party coming off an injury. 353 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: I know he played very well last year, but it 354 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: was a relatively small sample. And the more you play 355 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: in the league, the more they understand what you do 356 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 1: well and what you struggle with. And there's a lot 357 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: more tape on you to adjust. Trey Lance trying to 358 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: garner faith again with his front office and with his 359 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: coaching staff. So some uncertainty heading in the number year 360 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: is ten and a half. The over minus one forty two, 361 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: the under plus one thirty pat that under staring me 362 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: in the face here. And I know San Franz kind 363 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: of been that team the last few seasons, but last 364 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: year specifically, you also had a Rams team that didn't 365 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: have Stafford or Cooper Cup. You have the San Francisco 366 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: forty nine ers go undefeated in this division. I don't 367 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: think that happens again. And if it doesn't, all of 368 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, that thirteen win team looks a lot more 369 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: like in the ten or eleven win team. This one 370 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: is kind of threading the needle. What do you want 371 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: to do with the forty nine. 372 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 3: Ers, boy? I kind of want to walk away, Joe. 373 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 2: I mean, the reason I can't get on board with 374 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: the under is that they have this division that could 375 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 2: be just like if Seattle does not live up to expectations, 376 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: this division other than San Francisco is going to be 377 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: bad because the Cardinals seem like that seems like two 378 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 2: automatic wins for the forty nine ers. The Rams could 379 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 2: maybe be two automatic wins for the forty nine ers. 380 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: We'll see about that. I mean, Sean McVay is a 381 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: really good coach, but they've taken some personnel, hits salary cap. 382 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: Things have caught up to them. So but as you 383 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: alluded to the quarterback situation, I cannot bet a team 384 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: to win eleven or more games with confidence when they 385 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: have an unsettled quarterback situation. And I do think things 386 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: are still sort of in a state of flux, even 387 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: though they seem to be putting their thumb on the 388 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 2: scale for brock Purty. But I mean, this is the 389 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: guy who has taken last in the twenty twenty two draft, 390 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 2: and although he showed out last year, he was also 391 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: doing it against a lot of bad defenses if you 392 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: go back and look at the teams he played, So 393 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: betting them over ten and a half wins at minus 394 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: one forty two, no. 395 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: Thanks, certainly one to grow on there and want to 396 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: think about let's switch gears and take a look at 397 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: some of these division odds. Obviously you already have heavy 398 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: favorites Kansas City minus one sixty, Sanfran minus one sixty, 399 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville wins one fifty five very heavy, but Philadelphia minus 400 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: one ten pat This is one that I'm in on. 401 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill is at plus one thirty. This is where 402 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: we start going to our first of the plus money favorites. 403 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: But again, I think this one's more of a trap. 404 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: I've actually gone out there and I have a video 405 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: on betting pros right now my favorite ten bets. Go 406 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: back and take a look at it on the YouTube channel. 407 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: My favorite ten futures bets of the season, and the 408 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: Jets at plus two eighty are actually, in my opinion, 409 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: the better bet than the Buffalo Bills at plus one thirty. 410 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: That defense of the Jets is already playoff caliber twenty 411 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: ninth ranked offense and points last year. Even if Aaron 412 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: Rodgers is just a game manager at this point in 413 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: his career, I think that goes a long way with 414 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: the confidence building. I am fading the Buffalo plus one 415 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: thirty number. How about you. 416 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: I'm with you. 417 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 2: I would much rather bet the Jets at those numbers. 418 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: I think the Jets have a better defense than Buffalo, 419 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: and I don't think it's even a question this year. 420 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I think the Jets offense is a long 421 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: way to go to catch up to the Buffalo offense, 422 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: but the Jets could very easily win this division, and 423 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 2: I just don't think that's an enticing enough number to 424 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: interest me in the Bills. 425 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 3: But you mentioned the Eagles, Joe. 426 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk you or anyone else out 427 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: of betting the Eagles to win this division at minus ten, 428 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: but they're not my favorite bet to win the NFC East. 429 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 3: I do like Dallas a little more. At last I 430 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 3: saw plus one ninety. 431 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 2: I mean, the Cowboys were second in defensive DVA tenth 432 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 2: and special teams DVA last year. The offense was only 433 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: middle of the pack, but Dak Prescott should be better 434 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: after a year in which he was surprisingly inefficient. His 435 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 2: interception rate went through the roof. I wonder if that's 436 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: a one year anomaly and if Dak is back to 437 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 2: being one of the better quarterbacks in the league this year. 438 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: So I think they're a dangerous team for Philadelphia. I 439 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 2: think the two best teams in the NFC are jammed 440 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: into the same division. So that's the reason I can't 441 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 2: totally get on board with the Eagles at minus one 442 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: ten just because I like Dallas a little more at 443 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: plus one ninety. 444 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: I understand. I feel like the Cowboys always find a 445 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: way to disappoint though, so I'm gonna still go with 446 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: the Eagles. That's where I'm I just man, They're just 447 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: the class. The NFC is really weak this year, especially 448 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: that South. Again the Tom Brady's out of it. Speaking 449 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: of some divisions that are competitive, we talked about the 450 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: AFC North, the Bengals at plus one sixty, Baltimore Ravens 451 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: and the second favorite here plus two thirty. Do you 452 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: go for either one of these or is there a 453 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: wild card to win this division for you that you 454 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: think really is the contender people should be paying attention to. 455 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite is actually the Steelers to win this show, 456 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: and they have the longest odds of any team in 457 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 2: the AFC North at plus five hundred, and part of 458 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: it is that after their Week nine by the Steelers, 459 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: who were sixth in overall DVOA down the stretch last year, 460 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 2: and that was with Kenny Pickett, who actually had some 461 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: pretty respectable performances of late. We know Mike Tomlin doesn't 462 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: have losing seasons. It's just a question of how far 463 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 2: over five hundred the Steelers are, and I think this 464 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 2: defense is going to be back to being very good. 465 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: I think this is probably the best offensive line the 466 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: Steelers have had in the last half decade. I mean, 467 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: they've made some nice upgrades there, took a tackle on 468 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: the first round, brought in a pair of free agent guards. 469 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: So I kind of like the Steelers at longer odds 470 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 2: than I do either the Ravens or the Bengals. 471 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: Coaching matters, Mike Tomlin always shows up and they did 472 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: do some things they needed to to address that offensive 473 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: line in the offseason. Let's take a look at some 474 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: odds to make the playoffs now, whether we like the 475 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions to win that division or not to make 476 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yes is minus one sixty two, so everybody 477 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: thinks they are well Pat, you're getting plus one forty 478 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 1: five if it's a complete swing and miss. I hate 479 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: being negative because the Lions fans deserve better, but I 480 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: also want to make money. You going on the yes 481 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: side at the minus one sixty two, which seems like 482 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: a lot of Jews, or the no at plus one 483 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: forty five. 484 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: I'm going on the no at plus one forty five. 485 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: Joe, I mean, as I said, I think it's a 486 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: year of talent consolidation for the Lions and they do 487 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: not hit full stride this year. And granted a lot 488 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 2: of bad teams in that division, but I kind of 489 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: think the NFC North is only getting one playoff team, 490 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: and in theory, it could be any of those four teams. 491 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: I mean, the Bears are going to be better. They're 492 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: still not going to be good, but they're going to 493 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: be better green Bay who knows, the Vikings, who knows. 494 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: They both have some holes as far as the roster personnel. 495 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's gonna be a wildly unpredictable division, I think. 496 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 2: And I don't feel confident betting the Lions to make 497 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 2: the playoff. 498 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: Well, if you don't feel confident in the Lions, you 499 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: feel confident with Minnesota to make the playoffs as a Yes, 500 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: a plus one twenty because you're getting plus money on 501 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: that one as well. 502 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 3: No, I'd rather take the know at minus one fourteen 503 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 3: on them. 504 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: So no Lions, no Minnesota, everybody's out, So go pack go. 505 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: Is that what I'm sensing here? 506 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't mistake that for Green Bay enthusiasm from this 507 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: Packers fan, Joe. 508 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: Somebody's got to make the playoffs from the North, I know, yeah, 509 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: it's not. The Bears can't get on board with that one. 510 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 1: So I like the Minnesota Vikings plus one plus one 511 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: twenty to make the playoffs. I think that's a good one. 512 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: It's a little safer than the Lions. 513 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: I think could be. Yeah. 514 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: I just I don't love the price on any of 515 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 2: the NFC and North teams. I think it's too unpredictable 516 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: a division. 517 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: What about Seattle? You mentioned they have some holes, but 518 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: certainly we're more competitive, I think than anybody expected with 519 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: Gino Smith plus one oh four to not make the 520 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: playoffs minus one twenty. Yes, So right now Vegas is 521 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: saying that Seattle's a playoff team. Do you agree. 522 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned, not really seeing value on either Yes, 523 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: to make the playoffs at minus one twenty or no, 524 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: at plus one zero four. 525 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: Joe. 526 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 2: What concerns me is that Gino was not great down 527 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: the stretch last season, and like his final five or 528 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: six starts, he was more like the Geno of the 529 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 2: first ten years of his career than the Geno who 530 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: was an MVP candidates through the first ten to eleven 531 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 2: weeks of this season. So I'm just not sure I 532 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: trust Gino to make Seattle a team good enough to 533 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 2: make the playoffs. 534 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: I don't think they're going to win the division. 535 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 2: I don't think they beat San Francisco, and I don't 536 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: know if they're going to be good enough to get 537 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 2: a wild card spot. 538 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: Before we get to some of the playoff odds we 539 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: have ahead of us, don't forget everybody. 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The Eagles here to win the conference 550 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 1: plus three p thirty Yes, please already bet it. I'm in. 551 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: I just think they're the heavy favorites. Kansas City plus 552 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: three fifty to one. The AFC side, also, I think 553 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: is a good wager. The next three are the San 554 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers of plus four hundred to win 555 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: their conference to win the NFC, Buffalo at plus four 556 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: seventy five to win the AFC, and Cincinnati at plus 557 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: five fifty two win the AFC. I have bet Cincinnati 558 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: the last two years and made money on this, especially 559 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: when they got really close and then went to the 560 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl there two years ago. But to me, I'm 561 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: looking at the Eagles and Chiefs and they feel like 562 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: the favorites for a reason. They feel like a good investment. Still, Pat, 563 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: of all these contenders, which number looks the most appealing 564 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: to you? 565 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, pass the knife and fork, Joe, I'm going to 566 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: eat shawk here with both the Eagles and the Chiefs. 567 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: And since I'm so certain, well pretty certain, the NFC 568 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 2: winner is going to come out of the NFC East, 569 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to bet both the Eagles and the Cowboys. 570 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: The Cowboys that are more generous. I think plus six 571 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: hundred last time I checked on DraftKings. So look, the 572 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 2: Chiefs have represented the AFC in the Super Bowl three 573 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: of the last four years and they've won two of them. 574 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: So like plus three hundred, I mean I think their 575 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: chances are really good. Maybe it seems like people get 576 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: a little bored with them or something, but we know 577 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is gonna be good. And as I mentioned before, 578 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 2: like they've made some sort of under the radar upgrades 579 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 2: on defense that I think is going to have them 580 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:16,880 Speaker 2: right on the doorstep again this year. 581 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: Now, Kansas City opened at plus five hundred to win 582 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. That number is now up to plus 583 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: six hundred and some books on betting pros. Again, this 584 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: is why you use the VP apps. You can find 585 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: the best odds here. Philly open at plus seven. Now 586 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: it's a plus eight. They're trying to get you in. 587 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: I'm already in on the Eagles. I'm in on the Chiefs. 588 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: I very bet these hard. I'm ready to go. I 589 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: know it's boring this rematch, but again, until somebody else 590 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: emerges here, the health of Joe Burrow, question, the defense 591 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of a question. Cincinnati losing the two 592 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: safeties year over year. I have concerns about them there, 593 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: and I don't like the other contenders. I don't like Buffalo, 594 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: San France, Cincinnati, those are the other top contenders quote 595 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: unquote on the board. So once again, I'm eating chalk 596 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: with pat here. But these are really good return on 597 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: investment numbers plus eight hundred plus six hundred for the 598 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: two top teams respectively. How do you see these top two? 599 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: And is there another one that's looming out there that 600 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: you think might have a really interesting contender shot. 601 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 3: I don't think so, Joe. 602 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm really sort of zeroed in on the Eagles, 603 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: the Cowboys, and the Chiefs for a conference winner and 604 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: Super Bowl winner. And yeah, you have to love the 605 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: price on the Chiefs considering they've won two of the 606 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: last four. You know, they've won fifty percent of the 607 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 2: last four Super Bowls, and you know you're getting them 608 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 2: at what plus five hundred to win the Super Bowl? 609 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 3: Yes? Please? And I agree. 610 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: I think Philly and Dallas both have nice prices here. 611 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Dallas's defense certainly very good. D just Dak Prescott. 612 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Gotta make sure you protect the football a little bit 613 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: more in twenty twenty three, which is odd because his 614 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 1: old MO was protecting the football. That's what the guy was. 615 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: He and Daniel Jones traded places last year. Joe was 616 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: the strangest thing and like a freaky Friday type. 617 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: So it was the upside down in the NFL. But 618 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: we want to hear from you. You can tell me 619 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: in the comments below in the YouTube channel what your 620 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: favorite and tender wagers are and who knows, maybe I'll 621 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: bet them along with you. Don't forget. You can follow 622 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: us on Betting Pros individually as well. 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