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Speaker 1: Take Personally, Morgan Juelsman.

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Speaker 2: What's up, y'all.

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Speaker 3: It's the fifth episode of Take This Personally.

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Speaker 2: I'm Morgan.

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Speaker 3: As you've heard the first few episodes. My hope with

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Speaker 3: this podcast is to help us all navigate life a

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Speaker 3: little bit easier by connecting. Maybe this podcast can help

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Speaker 3: you feel less alone, Maybe it can help you feel

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Speaker 3: related to Maybe it helps you get through something, whatever

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Speaker 3: it may be. That's what I'm here to do, and

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Speaker 3: this episode is a very inspiring one in many ways.

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Speaker 3: I'm bringing on Missy Franklin, who is an Olympian with

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Speaker 3: several medals, titles, and years of experience as an athlete

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Speaker 3: in her chosen sport of swimming. And then I'm bringing

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Speaker 3: on Amy Bream, who is a Nike adaptive athlete. She

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Speaker 3: was born with one leg and recently been taking the

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Speaker 3: crossboit world by storm. Right now, I'm joined by Olympian

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Speaker 3: Missy Franklin. Many would know her for her incredible swimming talent.

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Speaker 3: She has a five Olympic gold medals, two NCAA National

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Speaker 3: championship titles, eleven world swimming titles. The list goes on

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Speaker 3: of what Missy has accomplished in her life and career,

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Speaker 3: and I'm just so excited to welcome her to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on. How are you

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Speaker 2: some so good? Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to now tell me a little bit about

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Speaker 3: your story, just for anyone who maybe hasn't heard some

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Speaker 3: of it.

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Speaker 2: What you started in swimming absolutely well, I expect many

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Speaker 2: people have not heard. But long story long, I started

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Speaker 2: so this fear of the water, it's actually proven to

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Speaker 2: be generationally based. So if the parents don't know how

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Speaker 2: to swim, there's only an eighteen percent chance that the

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Speaker 2: And I was very grateful for my mom who was

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Speaker 2: Me YMCA class when I was six months old, and

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Speaker 2: coming back up just cackling, like just loving every second

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Speaker 2: was snorkeling by the time I was too The earliest

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Speaker 2: I petitioned to do it when I was four, but

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Speaker 2: It was the thing that I really felt called to,

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Speaker 2: And so I trained as hard as I possibly could

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's so cool to hear from the

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Speaker 2: It honestly was always the dream. I mean, we have

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Speaker 2: I mean, just seemed to me like such an unbelievable

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Speaker 3: Journey has to be tough to you. I know, you

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Speaker 2: But there had to be hardships on the way.

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Speaker 2: And that's how I performed, you know, you could kind

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Speaker 2: You just love this saying exactly exactly. And then things

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Speaker 2: And so Olympic Trials in twenty sixteen was really, really tough.

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Speaker 3: And what does your life look like, you know, post retirement,

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Speaker 2: and I still get to work, which is really fun.

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Speaker 2: So that's really fun as well, because I kind of

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Speaker 2: summertime we were honestly just trying to get her a

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Speaker 2: lot of exposure in the pool. I think for younger

439
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Speaker 2: ones that's really the most important thing. You don't have

440
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Speaker 2: to do anything like I don't want you feel the

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Speaker 2: pressure of doing those formalsome lessons right away, but just

442
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Speaker 2: that exposure to getting them in the water and around

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Speaker 2: it really helps take some of that fear component away.

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Speaker 2: So when it comes time for formalsome lessons, which again

445
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Speaker 2: I also believe there's no time too early, So whenever

446
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Speaker 2: you're ready, like it's I think it's a great time.

447
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Speaker 2: But they're kind of used to it, right it's not

448
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Speaker 2: this really big scary thing that they've never seen before.

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Speaker 2: So we spent a lot of time in the pool

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Speaker 2: with her this summer, and now that pools are closed,

451
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Speaker 2: will start getting her back into weekly some lessons, so

452
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Speaker 2: she's still getting that exposure all year long. Oh that's

453
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Speaker 2: so much fun.

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Speaker 3: You're definitely having a great period of your life now,

455
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Speaker 3: just a new season of life.

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Speaker 2: And it's really cool to see the.

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Speaker 3: Transition for you and showing too that sometimes the redirection

458
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Speaker 3: can be a really cool and good thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I couldn't agree with that more. And again,

460
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Speaker 2: just trusting the process. It's really hard when you don't

461
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Speaker 2: really know where that redirection is going and you've never

462
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Speaker 2: known another direction. But I think trusting yourself is something

463
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Speaker 2: that we could all do a little bit more, and

464
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Speaker 2: trusting our strength and our integrity and just our sense

465
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Speaker 2: of self and knowing that no matter what happens in

466
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Speaker 2: this life, we're going to handle it. And you know,

467
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Speaker 2: that's something that I'm still working on. That's something that

468
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of us are still working on.

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Speaker 2: But it's really empowering when you kind of feel that

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Speaker 2: trust coming into play of you know, whatever happens, whatever

471
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Speaker 2: transitions I go through, whatever paths I might have to

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Speaker 2: go down that I'm not expecting to, I know that

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Speaker 2: I have what it takes to walk it in a

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Speaker 2: way that I'm going to be proud of.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And that's the best way we could totally end this,

476
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Speaker 3: because if you give any more advice, I'm just I'm

477
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Speaker 3: going to go like run through a wall and have

478
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Speaker 3: all these things I.

479
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Speaker 2: Need to go do.

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Speaker 3: You inspire me, which is exactly what you want to

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Speaker 3: be doing.

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Speaker 2: And I love that for you. I love to see

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Speaker 2: that your life has gotten to be where you want

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Speaker 2: it to be too.

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Speaker 3: So it's a lot just very exciting stuff. And thank

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Speaker 3: you for coming on and hanging out with me for

487
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Speaker 3: a little.

488
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Speaker 2: Bit being here. I will do it anytime.

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Speaker 3: As you heard, Missy is doing a lot of exciting

490
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Speaker 3: things in her life post retirement. If you want to

491
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Speaker 3: follow along her journey and see the things she's up to,

492
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Speaker 3: you can follow her at Missy Franklin eighty eight. Amy

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Speaker 3: Breem is a Nike adaptive athlete who was born without

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Speaker 3: her right leg. She competed for the first time at

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty one CrossFit Games in the lower Adaptive division.

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Speaker 3: She took first place in her division at the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty two Watapalooza competition and placed third in her division

498
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Speaker 3: at the twenty twenty two CrossFit Games. She's never let

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Speaker 3: her birth's effect stop her from chasing any of her dreams,

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Speaker 3: and she's obviously taking the CrossFit world by storm. Amy,

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Speaker 3: thanks so much for joining me today.

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Speaker 1: Of course, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: I met you through Title nash which is a kickboxing

505
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Speaker 3: gym here in Nashville. But you had moved to Nashville

506
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Speaker 3: with the intent of becoming an artist.

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Speaker 2: Where did the change up happen?

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Speaker 1: Oh, life's a funny thing, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was actually a commercial music major in college. And

511
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Speaker 1: I moved here in twenty fourteen every intention of, you know,

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Speaker 1: pursuing music, but was a little apprehensive, not quite sure,

513
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Speaker 1: you know, what it would look like. And you know,

514
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Speaker 1: definitely did the whole playing around town thing, all of

515
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Speaker 1: that great stuff that everyone does in Nashville. And I

516
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Speaker 1: realized in the first few years that I was doing

517
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Speaker 1: it more because I felt like it was just what

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Speaker 1: I'd always identified as, like a musician, and that's kind

519
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Speaker 1: of like what I needed to do. But I wasn't

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Speaker 1: actually enjoying the process. I love music. I still love music,

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Speaker 1: but the more I did it in that capacity, I

522
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Speaker 1: found I was kind of falling out of love with music.

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Speaker 1: So I decided to lay that down. It was a

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Speaker 1: rough couple of years, if I'm being honest. In Nashville.

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Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, I was just like, let's just start

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Speaker 1: from scratch, figure out what I like. I was boxing

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Speaker 1: at title for fun and then was offered a fun

528
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Speaker 1: part time job. I had a marketing position at another company.

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Speaker 1: I just did it on the weekends for fun, and

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Speaker 1: it just morphed into this. I didn't start any of

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Speaker 1: that with a specific intent other than I liked who

532
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Speaker 1: I was becoming in the process, and I just was

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Speaker 1: having fun and here we are.

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Speaker 3: Well, also along that journey, you've started to share a

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Speaker 3: very vulnerable side of your life and of your journey.

536
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Speaker 3: What inspired you to start talking about in sharing the

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Speaker 3: story of growing up with a birth defect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so around the same time, around twenty seventeen, again, like,

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Speaker 1: I had some things happen that kind of rocked my

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Speaker 1: world a little bit, and I wasn't sure what direction

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Speaker 1: to do if I was even going to stay in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: And I had two really close friends of mine. They

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Speaker 1: came over for like a girl's wine night, and they

544
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Speaker 1: were like, you know, why don't you ever share your story?

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Speaker 1: And I remember thinking, because I've thought this quite a

546
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Speaker 1: bit growing up, like, well, people, you know, I don't

547
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Speaker 1: want to say anything because I've never even had an amputation.

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Speaker 1: It's a birth defect. I've just always had one, like,

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Speaker 1: and so for some reason I thought that that like

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Speaker 1: counted me out. I was like, people don't want to

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Speaker 1: hear it's just like me growing up. It's whatever. They're like, well,

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Speaker 1: you probably have some insight that you don't even realize,

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Speaker 1: or just like a cool world asking people that are

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Speaker 1: amputees or anything can be such a taboo. People are

555
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Speaker 1: a little nervous around it. I've had it for so long,

556
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Speaker 1: very very little offense or shocks me anymore. So I

557
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Speaker 1: was like, well, I want people to know and understand

558
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Speaker 1: this world, just understand how cool it is. So if

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be offended by the questions, I

560
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Speaker 1: should be the one to like just start the conversation.

561
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Speaker 1: So that's kind of where it started, and it I

562
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Speaker 1: had no idea what would lead me where I am now,

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Speaker 1: but it's been great.

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Speaker 3: It's funny you say, sharing that side and you wouldn't

565
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Speaker 3: be offended in anything, and you blew up on social

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Speaker 3: media after some videos went viral of you competing at

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Speaker 3: the CrossFit Games and being an adaptive athlete.

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Speaker 2: What was that first.

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Speaker 3: Feeling like when you're like, holy crap, my account was

570
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Speaker 3: blowing up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a lot. I wasn't expecting any of that.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because if you know me, I don't

573
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Speaker 1: like to cry in public at all, and in that

574
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Speaker 1: video I was crying. And of course it's like what

575
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Speaker 1: I went viral for. My friends give me such a

576
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Speaker 1: hard time about it, but yeah, all of that happens

577
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Speaker 1: within like a week, so it was like a very

578
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Speaker 1: much a blur. I was not expecting any of it,

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Speaker 1: and it definitely took a while. It's been quite a

580
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Speaker 1: year just to adjust to. But I remember again I

581
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Speaker 1: was second guessing kind of like how I's posting because

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Speaker 1: I like to be a dork, you know, just like

583
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Speaker 1: be myself whatever, I don't care on Instagram. And I

584
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Speaker 1: had Jared and Tyler at the gym and at one

585
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Speaker 1: point they kind of called me out and they're like,

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Speaker 1: you're trying too hard. You're trying to act like you

587
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Speaker 1: have X amount of followers, but like you're a dork

588
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Speaker 1: and like, for whatever reason, that's worked for you. So

589
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Speaker 1: just like keep doing what you've always been doing and

590
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Speaker 1: just be you, and it doesn't matter how many people

591
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Speaker 1: are following, just keep doing it. And that kind of

592
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Speaker 1: reset my mind. It just kind of took the tension

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Speaker 1: out of it, and I was just, yeah, let's just

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Speaker 1: see where this goes.

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Speaker 3: I love that you have the people in your life

596
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Speaker 3: that can always make sure to set you straight.

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Speaker 1: That's a good thing to have always. I don't tend

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Speaker 1: to like it in the moment, but afterwards, I'm grateful

599
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Speaker 1: for it.

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Speaker 3: We never like being told some of the truth until

601
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Speaker 3: it actually happens. What's one thing you hope people take

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Speaker 3: away when they hear you talk about your journey across

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Speaker 3: the board?

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Speaker 1: That's a great question. Definitely the idea that not the idea,

605
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Speaker 1: the fact that there's really nothing separating me and anyone else.

606
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Speaker 1: I specifically remember telling my coach Scooter on the way

607
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Speaker 1: back from the games. I posted that video and I

608
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Speaker 1: randomly checked my Instagram and it was like nothing I'd

609
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Speaker 1: ever posted, just like blowing up. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I think this is a thing I think, And I

611
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Speaker 1: told him one of my greatest fears, as much as

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Speaker 1: this is amazing, is that someone like a middle school

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Speaker 1: girl who maybe has lost your leg or deals with confidence,

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Speaker 1: you know, like struggling with that and herself, is going

615
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Speaker 1: to look at my profile and think that we're unrelatable

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Speaker 1: and there's like a separation between what I've been able

617
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Speaker 1: to accomplish in what she can do, and there's really

618
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Speaker 1: not I did not grow up an athlete. I didn't

619
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Speaker 1: touch sports. I didn't wear shorts. I wore mostly pants

620
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Speaker 1: until I was twenty one twenty two because I was

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Speaker 1: so self conscious and I just did a little bit

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Speaker 1: every day that made me feel uncomfortable, and I put

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Speaker 1: people in my life that I trusted, very few people

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Speaker 1: that I allowed to speak into my life and keep

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Speaker 1: me accountable, and just a little bit more each day

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Speaker 1: to like bring me a tiny bit further. Like one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite quotes is the more that you do,

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Speaker 1: it's not that you become less afraid, it's that you

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Speaker 1: become more brave. And that has been one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: of my journey. And I truly truly believe that no

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Speaker 1: matter your circumstances, even if you're not going to be

632
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Speaker 1: a cross of an athlete, you can go so so

633
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Speaker 1: far if you just do a little bit at a time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you mention how you wanted to share this

635
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Speaker 3: part of your journey because it's important for people to

636
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Speaker 3: see all these kind of different things you've went through,

637
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Speaker 3: even if it was.

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Speaker 2: Hard for you.

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Speaker 3: I think looking at your story, what I've been able

640
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: to see is that you should never give up on yourself.

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Speaker 3: Watching you, you show all the sides of it, everything

642
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Speaker 3: that's hard, and you want to give up, but you

643
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Speaker 3: don't and you keep pushing through. And that's something I've

644
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Speaker 3: learned just following you and being around you, which.

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Speaker 2: I think is a cool lesson in itself.

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Speaker 3: But what has kept you going through all of those

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Speaker 3: really hard moments in your life where you're like, there's

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Speaker 3: no way I can't do this, this is not going

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Speaker 3: to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think couple of things. Definitely, once you cross one

651
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Speaker 1: hurdle and see the other side of it, even if

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Speaker 1: you don't, like I think, you start to recognize, like

653
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Speaker 1: maybe before the next hurdle comes, you're like, oh no,

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Speaker 1: these feelings are coming back. I don't prefer feeling this way.

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Speaker 1: But you also are like, well I got over that,

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Speaker 1: so I can do this too again, like not less afraid,

657
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: more brave. So experiencing that also on a really real level,

658
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: I realized the power of the words that I speak

659
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: to myself. For a really long time. It wasn't things

660
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: that I was saying out loud necessarily, but I realized

661
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: how negative my self talk was, and so I was

662
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: just really intentional about like such a tiny thing I

663
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: started my day with. I wrote down three insecurities and

664
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: wrote the opposite of them, and ninety five percent of

665
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: the days I was annoyed and I didn't believe them.

666
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: But I still made myself say it out loud, and

667
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm a huge believer that eventually, like even if you

668
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: don't believe it, you eventually will believe it. So there's

669
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: power in that. When I'm insecure and feeling all of

670
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: those things, I say the opposite of what I feel.

671
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: And also just placing people in your life that can

672
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: keep you accountable. There's plenty of times I've been the

673
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: absolute worst, like such a brat, and then those people

674
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: know who they are in my life who can speak

675
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: to me, and they have been pretty direct, and even

676
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: if I don't like it in the moment, I trust

677
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: them enough that I know when I need to be

678
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: humbled a little bit. It's really made a huge difference.

679
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: People always mention the thing about blowing up or going viral,

680
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: that the most important thing is to stay true to

681
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: who you are, and.

682
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 2: The way to do that is be surrounded by the

683
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: right people. Yeah, it sounds like you found that, which

684
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 2: I think is cool.

685
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

686
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been great.

687
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 3: In talking on those hard moments. What's one challenge that

688
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: comes to mind that you faced that seemed so impossible

689
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: for you to accomplish, but then you did.

690
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: Honestly, I mean keeping it. It might seem obvious, but

691
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: going into the CrossFit Games, I was very new to CrossFit.

692
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: I had a very unique journey. Actually don't work out

693
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: at a CrossFit gym. I never have. My first step

694
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: into a CrossFit gym was the Saturday before I left

695
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: for the Games, which was like very unique. I started

696
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: a CrossFit in January twenty twenty one when an adaptive

697
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: athlete told me it was the first year that CrossFit

698
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: had an adapted division. I didn't know. You don't have

699
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: to know anything about CrossFit, but there's something called the OPE,

700
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: which is like an online qualifier you go through a

701
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: bunch of hoops to be able to get to an

702
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: in person competition like the Games. And so I started

703
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: it for fun on a whim, started following my coach

704
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: around because he was working with us, and eventually it

705
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: like turned into this thing and I was able to

706
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: go to the next round, and all of a sudden,

707
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, I'm going to this competition.

708
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: But I was six months into the sport, which like

709
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. It was a great opportunity, especially it being

710
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: the first year of Adaptive. All the stars kind of

711
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: aligned for it. Obviously I worked very hard, but like

712
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of opportunity there as well. So I

713
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: had such fear and anxiety going in, like I had

714
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: to mute every account associated like a fellow competitor CrossFit everyone,

715
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: because all the posts I ever saw from any athlete

716
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 1: were like, let's go, We're so pumped. I'm like, no

717
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: one's scared, no one is acknowledging that this is actually

718
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: quite terrifying. We're about to like work out in front

719
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: of thousands of people, like okay, And it was just

720
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: so overwhelming because I was like, I feel like I can't.

721
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the only one that's scared, like

722
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: should I? And it was such imposters and it was unreal.

723
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, I faced that. There was so many things

724
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: that helped me through it, and I definitely had many

725
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: moments of feeling weak, which I think in that video

726
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: that went viral. The emotion of that was me feeling

727
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: all of the months and the days leading up to

728
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: it and the workouts leading up to it, which is

729
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: why it was such an emotional moment between myself and

730
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: even my coach because he also understood it, and so

731
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: it was definitely worth it. But it was not an

732
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: easy journey.

733
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's even cooler that that was the

734
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: moment that went viral because it's showing everything coming to

735
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: a head, all of your feelings, everything you went through

736
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: open to that moment.

737
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really was. It sounds so cliche, but it

738
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: really felt like a movie. It was like, true, I

739
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: didn't even really know what was happening. It didn't really

740
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: click that I was even crying or ed. I didn't

741
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: know a camera was on me until like after everything,

742
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: and people were like, oh my gosh, that's amazing, and

743
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: it was so over my head. I was like, oh,

744
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: you watched like thank you, Like I had no clue.

745
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, someone caught that on film,

746
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: and yeah.

747
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: So you were just happy to have gone through it.

748
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was I was like, I didn't die.

749
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 4: Here we go.

750
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 3: You had said this a little bit earlier, and they

751
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 3: say hindsight's always twenty twenty. Do you feel like your

752
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 3: life worked out how it's supposed to instead of how

753
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: you intended for it too?

754
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And like that is one of the most

755
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: annoying things to say to because if you had talked

756
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: to Amy five years ago, six years ago. Even people

757
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: that would see me on social media from high school,

758
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: they're probably like what, like, like, I mean, night and day,

759
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: I still have my personality. I'm still me in a

760
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: lot of ways. But like also it's like a one

761
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: to eighty and so a lot a lot of moments

762
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: of honestly pain and struggle of why I didn't understand,

763
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, why things weren't working out, why like doors

764
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: are being shut, and I just kept coming up against

765
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: this imaginary wall and then realizing, okay, well, like do

766
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: I want to spend the rest of my life beating

767
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: my head against the door and actually not enjoying it.

768
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm growing because I'm not enjoying

769
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: any part of it. I'm doing it because I feel

770
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: like I am supposed to, which really might have come

771
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: more from outside sources and things. That was it was

772
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: just a lot of self journey. I mean, you know,

773
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: I feel like from when you graduate college, especially to

774
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: like age twenty six, grow so much.

775
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: Like all of life happened.

776
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: A lot of life happens. You're like, wow, they did

777
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: not prepare me for this, So yeah, it was it

778
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: was painful again I keep using that word, but now

779
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: looking back. I'm like, oh, like that was actually for

780
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: the good. I just didn't see it at the time.

781
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: Do you still play music at all now? Is it

782
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: just more of a passion than it is yeah the

783
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: job career.

784
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it definitely is passion. I mean I love music,

785
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: I always will. It was actually also majored in saxophone.

786
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: Wow, I did to see you play the saxophone.

787
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: Just such a little dork, but I love it. I

788
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: love the instrument. So I obviously singer songwriter with piano

789
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: and saxophone. That's what I did, and that's I mean,

790
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: I played like eight hours a day in college.

791
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: You have your own jazz club, That's what I'm picturing

792
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: right now.

793
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: A little workout area over here, little jazz session here,

794
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: Like let's just put it all together.

795
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: People do that now and it somehow works. Yeah, So

796
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: I think you could do that.

797
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 3: You could just play jazz while people are working out.

798
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: I'm here for it.

799
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be a vibe.

800
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: I'm here.

801
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 3: There's so many people out there with challenging life circumstances,

802
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: and some that are probably similar to yours in some ways.

803
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 3: If there's one piece of advice that you could give

804
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: through your lens of what you've been through.

805
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: What would it be realize that everyone goes through it.

806
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: I think, especially with social media, there's this such an

807
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: isolation factor if for not careful that we look at

808
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 1: these highlight reels. And I don't even necessarily feel that

809
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: there's a problem with someone sharing their highlights. If they're

810
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: being untruthful about it, that's where I have an issue.

811
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, you can show your wins, that's great.

812
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: Like if you don't want to show the moments you're

813
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: not winning, that's okay, as long as the people watching

814
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: have the maturity to understand that's not the whole story.

815
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: And I think doesn't make it easier necessarily, But there

816
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: is such a sense of community again, like such fear

817
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: going in Toto the CrossFit games. I remember day one

818
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: of orientation me talking with my fellow competitors and just

819
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: people that I met that are now friends, and hearing them,

820
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, everyone's scared. We're just not saying it.

821
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 3: It's not a common thing to say, hey I'm scared,

822
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 3: Hey I'm vulnerable. That's not something we encourage often.

823
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, and even like this past year too, I

824
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: was able to talk with some other athletes that I mean,

825
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: I've looked up to. They've been in the sport for

826
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: fifteen years and are like really big names and CrossFit

827
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: and I have the opportunity to have some real conversations

828
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: with them too, and they said the same thing. One

829
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: person was like, we all wake up on day one

830
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: terrified and feeling less than and that we can't do this,

831
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: and it's like he's one of the biggest names in CrossFit,

832
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: and just it was such a relief to be like,

833
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, we are all in that space. And again,

834
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: not that you have to go spill your guts on

835
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: social media if that's not what you want to do,

836
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: but just recognizing I'm not alone in this, and so

837
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: if I feel this, they feel this, and we can

838
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: just figure it out together rather than seeing it as

839
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: me versus them kind of thing.

840
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: That's an important lesson for sure.

841
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 3: There's one more thing I want to ask you, Being

842
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: a somebody that was born with a birth's effect and

843
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: I'm not someone who was, if you could tell me

844
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: something or people who haven't been born with one that

845
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: you wish you could have told back in the day

846
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: when you were going through it and you were learning

847
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: so much about yourself that you wish people like me

848
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 3: would know.

849
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: What would it be? That is a great question. No

850
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: one's ever asked me that before.

851
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: Well, I think there's so much beauty in learning, yeah,

852
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: and understanding things that we didn't grow up around or

853
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 3: have to deal with, because everybody has different challenges. Just

854
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: because I didn't have that didn't mean I didn't have

855
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 3: other things. But I love learning about other peoples because

856
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 3: then it allows me to be more open minded. It

857
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: allows me to be more sensitive and empathetic towards things.

858
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: So I think it's important that we learned that.

859
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I genuinely love that. I think one thing,

860
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: probably just an awareness maybe to create an empathy if possible,

861
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: of like one thing that I'm very grateful about having

862
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: my defect. When I go into the gym, I'm very

863
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: aware of the potential emotions of everyone around me. I mean,

864
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 1: I've always worked hard in the gym, and I know

865
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: that when I walk into a gym, but the chances

866
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: of a stranger telling me, oh my gosh, that's awesome,

867
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: great job. Even if I'm being really lazy, They're probably

868
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: still going to say it because they see a physical challenge.

869
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: I've always thought, well, if I'm going to get the

870
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: compliments regardless, I want to feel like I've earned them,

871
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: like I actually want to work hard. I want to

872
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: get better and also do it for the person that's

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Speaker 1: maybe next to me that's actually struggling more because of anxiety,

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Speaker 1: but no one knows it, and so they're just struggling

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Speaker 1: in silence. That's one thing that I'm very grateful that

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Speaker 1: I think growing up with a birth defect, because it

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Speaker 1: does affect you, you know, emotionally, physically, mentally, all of

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Speaker 1: those good things that it's created, that automatic awareness that

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Speaker 1: I wish that I could transfer to other people as

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Speaker 1: well of just even I've had it for so long,

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Speaker 1: I'm really comfortable with it. It's cool. But maybe the

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Speaker 1: way that people approach someone with any kind of disability,

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Speaker 1: it's like, hey, they're not broken, they're not fragile, they're okay,

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Speaker 1: but like, also, so let's frame these conversations in a

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Speaker 1: way that's going to make them feel comfortable and not oh, dear,

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Speaker 1: like look how cute you are, but like good job,

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Speaker 1: But no, like they're killing it. They're actually able to thrive.

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Speaker 1: There are moments when they're just a human being living

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Speaker 1: their life and let's have cool conversations and learn about

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Speaker 1: prosthetics and their life without making them feel less than I.

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Speaker 3: Think that's the perfect thing to end on an import

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Speaker 3: and lesson for all of us to take away from

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Speaker 3: this if they take away anything. Yeah, So, Amy, thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for joining me and just being on.

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Speaker 2: Here with me today.

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Speaker 1: Awesome of course, thanks so much, Morgan.

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Speaker 3: Like I mentioned in the interview, Amy is very inspiring

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Speaker 3: to follow on her journey through life. You can check

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Speaker 3: out all the things she's up to on her Instagram

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Speaker 3: at One Leg to Stand On. I don't know about

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Speaker 3: you all, but listening to both Missy Franklin and Amy

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Speaker 3: Bram this week seriously has me inspired to chase my dreams.

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Speaker 3: I think it's so cool to hear from people and

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Speaker 3: what their journey to a goal, destiny nation looked like,

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Speaker 3: because oftentimes those journeys aren't pretty, and it's a good

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Speaker 3: reminder that life can get very messy, but our dreams

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Speaker 3: are always possible in the midst of all the mess

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Speaker 3: and the chaos. Make sure to hit up the podcast

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Speaker 3: on Instagram at Take This Personally or email me at

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Speaker 3: Take This Personally podcast at gmail dot com for some

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Speaker 3: comments about today's episode, or pieces of advice you may

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Speaker 3: want from the experts, or lessons you want from my life.

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Speaker 3: Next week, I'm bringing on Christina Lai Carry She helps

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Speaker 3: people expand their self awareness and align their energy to

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Speaker 3: create a better world for themselves. And then I'll come

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Speaker 3: on and share my journey to my best self. Although

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Speaker 3: rocky and still not all the way there, it's one

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Speaker 3: that I'm still very proud of. That's all for now.

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Speaker 3: I hope to talk to y'all next week.

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Speaker 1: Love you,