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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here on Off the Edge the podcast with

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Speaker 1: the man that needs no introduction of former NFL MVP,

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Speaker 1: a man who can still sling the rock and we

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Speaker 1: know he can do it if he gets a chance

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Speaker 1: to do it. Somebody who's been a pro bowler, all

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Speaker 1: pro NFL MVP should have been, you know, is the

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Speaker 1: number one draft pick up, the most elite draft class

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Speaker 1: to ever have been in existing in the twenty eleven

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Speaker 1: draft class. You know, from a CAM to a CAM

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Speaker 1: in a draft that had three cams. We're just missing

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Speaker 1: the other one, you know as a Cam trifecta at

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Speaker 1: the time. And here we are a CAM duo with

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton, the man, the legend himself, mister game changer,

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Speaker 1: two game manager, at the most relevant time of our

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Speaker 1: NFL experiences. Uh, listen, what else can what else can

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Speaker 1: I say that you get that you don't speak for yourself.

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Speaker 2: We can say that we can enjoy each other's company.

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Speaker 3: Now, I've always enjoyed your company, No like I didn't

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Speaker 3: enjoy yours. Meant to be a troll, I think for you, Bro,

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Speaker 3: And I was having this conversation with Matt Ryan yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Tell me a more competitive division, right, during that.

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Speaker 3: Two thousand and thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen seventeen in that

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Speaker 3: Sea South.

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Speaker 1: There wasn't how could there have been animosity at every level.

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Speaker 3: Every out of what is it to out of eight

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Speaker 3: games a year, that's half your schedule, you know, like

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Speaker 3: the Saint's coming.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not even locked in. Oh oh it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: blood in the water.

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Speaker 2: It's like, bro, tight yo up? Oh can I can? I?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, te yo up?

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Speaker 3: Because Roma Harper petty King, like Jinx petty King, like

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Speaker 3: all that pettiness. Also the mission don't don't don't, don't

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Speaker 3: don't know. I said, oh my, that's just bro.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it will.

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Speaker 3: Was one of those times where it's like, bro, you

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Speaker 3: got to tighten yo up because not only are they gritty,

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Speaker 3: they have that continuity that a lot of teams miss

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Speaker 2: It's hard not to mention, you guys, it's kind of

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Speaker 3: Compared to the Baltimore Ravens, compared to the forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers at that particular point in time, it was just.

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Speaker 1: At a.

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Speaker 3: Unit that thrived our opportunistics and was able to create

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Speaker 1: Rush man, and it was. It was a time to

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Speaker 1: be had to like you know, there was there was

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Speaker 1: had in the end zone in the Superdome. You did

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Speaker 1: the you know the patentent hand. They opened up the

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Speaker 1: chest shoulder, you know, open up the Superman vibes, and

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Speaker 1: I was like, man and you was like Loki pass

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Speaker 1: I like I like jumped like it wasn't a brush,

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Speaker 1: it was a bump. And You're like you like looked

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Speaker 1: and my guy Curtis Lofton and like went up to

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Speaker 1: I saw, I saw him go, and.

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Speaker 2: I find myself in the back of the thirty.

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Speaker 1: People fighting in thirty people fighting and next thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: tree stump, you know, and so Nix. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: It's it's times like that that you really enjoyed the rivalry,

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Speaker 1: and that's what makes it feel.

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Speaker 4: Like a rivalry, you know the thing.

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Speaker 3: I know our rivalry was one to kind of consider,

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Speaker 3: but being from Atlanta, Yeah, I don't think that there's

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Speaker 3: a better rivalry than Atlanta and New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, no, like that I hate him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's one of those things that it's not even

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Speaker 3: it's deeper than football in that thing because when Katrina hit,

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Speaker 3: a lot of New Orleans natives came to Atlanta. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Man, you know that that energy, Loan, this makes you

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Speaker 1: I'm in the podcast world. You've clearly got your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Is that is that a rivalry hood? Like you've got

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Speaker 1: you've got never that's your your your podcast? Tell me,

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Speaker 1: tell me more about it. Because you sit down with

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Speaker 1: the cigar, you got the lounge, you you're you're.

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Speaker 3: That's missing right now? I mean I got it close by.

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Speaker 3: It's just being authentic, authentic to who I am.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think for my whole career, a lot of people

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Speaker 2: Is this an energy that? Like what is he?

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Speaker 3: You're not used to seeing this type of energy on

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Speaker 3: the field. Folks are able to see a quarterback play

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Speaker 3: and have fun and dance and jump around and.

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Speaker 2: Like is that really? Like what the is that?

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Speaker 3: We can't So I've always had to protect, you know,

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Speaker 3: my sanity, but also protect what I was playing for franchises, brands, players, coaches,

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Speaker 3: and now in podcasts, and it's like I don't give

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Speaker 2: The problems, bring on the problems, bring like one of

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Speaker 2: them things and I enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: Brow you're just uncut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's like when you're in this position, I'm

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Speaker 3: able to tell these type of stories, you know, in

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Speaker 3: an unfiltered way, not to protect anybody's image of anybody

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Speaker 3: who knows me, know, like I.

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Speaker 2: You'll keep the Bro code, the Bro code, but I'm

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Speaker 3: It more like cutting the way that it's like, yo,

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Speaker 3: I could tell that you know what I'm saying, Like

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Speaker 3: I just had, you know, a conversation with Greg Goldsen.

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Speaker 3: We're just talking about certain things and it's like, damn dog,

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Speaker 2: Missed that absolutely and they asked me like, yo, Bro,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I'm different, like I'm a family

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Speaker 3: man now you know what I'm saying. I got children,

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Speaker 1: And what can't be right? Because you know what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm just gonna shoot over to your podcast

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna were gonna continue to if you want

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Speaker 1: part part two to this part one, check me out

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Speaker 1: off the Part two of the cams Apostophees. Here we

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Speaker 1: are my podcast Off the Edge with me your host

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Speaker 1: Cam Jordan, and it feels like a variety show because

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Speaker 1: I get to see all these legends and media row

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Speaker 1: in the league between the Cincinnati Bengals. Some people call

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, I call them Bengals in the Los Angeles Rams,

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Speaker 1: winning a super Bowl with them and then walking off

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Speaker 1: is complete. Andrew Withwurthy, Man, I appreciate you tapping in man.

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Speaker 4: Happy to be here. Bro, what a week man, it's

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Speaker 4: been awesome. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, as a watch guy myself, I look down

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Speaker 4: I just got it. When you're big, fatherly, you gotta

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Speaker 4: have a couple accessories, you know, because everybody see you,

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Speaker 4: Like God, this dude's huge. You know, you need a

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Speaker 1: I'll cut your monts if you will. But sitting here,

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Speaker 1: you know you started off in Louisiana, so we have

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Speaker 1: but you you're here. Media week clearly went to NFL honors.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was awesome that. I actually thought it

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Speaker 1: I thought, Man, it's it's awesome, especially when you talk

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I think what's cool And I

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Speaker 4: But I think also to me, we get lost in

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Speaker 4: is really cool that people feel that vibe from these

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Speaker 4: what they do, they have a passion be great at it,

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Speaker 4: but they also have a passion for everyone else that

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I always think about like just the highlight you're

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Speaker 1: Absolutely tune this back to football, you know, wrapping up

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Speaker 4: And think about it. Obviously, offensive linemen are not the

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Speaker 1: See. As much as most of Chegri and I as

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you tapping in. I a't gonna hold

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Speaker 1: up too much longer, you know. I feel like today's

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Speaker 1: podcast is like a variety show. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: of great a lot of legends going through and I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy that you were able to have find some

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Speaker 1: time to sit down with the kid on off the

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Speaker 1: edge of the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it. Man, You're an absolute legend yourself. Man, one

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Speaker 4: of the most unbelievable careers on the edge of anybody.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, my guy.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 6: Asturn then Drunking and Aston Apron.

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Speaker 5: Truncame by Astron.

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Speaker 6: Delay, then run came and Astern.

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Speaker 5: Front, Trudy by Eastern.

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Speaker 6: Delay, then Runking and Aston Apron.

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Speaker 5: Truncay by Eastern delay.

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