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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Wednesday, April third, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. So we should

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Speaker 1: probably slow down on the eastern Candy to me and

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Speaker 1: your man, nam G. Marcus Grand joined by Michael f.

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Speaker 1: Florio and LaQuan Jones, and gentlemen, it's nice to have

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Speaker 1: you both on the West coast at the same time.

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Speaker 1: It feels like it's been a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a couple of weeks. Man, everybody's traveling.

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Speaker 2: You ain't got no planes set up soon, Marcus.

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Speaker 1: I mean I may be going somewhere, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, my my homeland is up north. Like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going east necessarily. We may make a trip, make

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Speaker 1: a pilgrimage back to the Bay Area, but nothing immediately planned.

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Speaker 1: I just had mom in town.

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Speaker 3: So the furthest east we're gonna get, Marcus, this summer's can.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, how's the closest You'll get the good pizza too?

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Speaker 1: Man? Is it okay? Sure? It's funny because I know,

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Speaker 1: like I know all us because like, yeah, you missed

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Speaker 1: out on good piece. I'm like, yeah, but we got

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Speaker 1: burritos and tacos and like that's a fair. That's a

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Speaker 1: fair trade off. I feel like that's a fair trade off.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't have any of that stuff until I

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Speaker 2: came over here, and I actually do enjoy it. So

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Speaker 2: you know, big plus for California.

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Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome. We have plit to talk about today. I

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Speaker 1: excited because this is one of my favorite shows that

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Speaker 1: we do every year. We're going to have Emory hunt on,

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Speaker 1: the founder, the creator of the Football game Plan. His

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Speaker 1: Draft guide is out and now, so we're going to

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Speaker 1: dive into sort of his draft process, talk about some

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Speaker 1: of the guys he likes. Floria, you and I were

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Speaker 1: talking about this before the show that one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons we like Emory is because, you know, he will

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Speaker 1: always highlight a couple of guys that maybe we either

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Speaker 1: haven't heard of or haven't really talked much about, or

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Speaker 1: he will have something in his rankings that kind of

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Speaker 1: has a scratching our heads. But the beauty of it,

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Speaker 1: Mike is that more often than that, Emory is right

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Speaker 1: on a lot of these things. I'm gonna age both

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Speaker 1: of us. I remember when I first started working with Emery,

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Speaker 1: like seven years ago, I was like, this guy's crazy,

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Speaker 1: Like the amount of names that he has against consensus

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Speaker 1: and the guys that like we've never heard of that

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Speaker 1: go to these small schools and then the season plays

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Speaker 1: out and like you're like, oh, Tarik Cohen is in

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Speaker 1: an RB two for fantasy purposes.

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Speaker 3: No one had heard the name before Emory was throwing

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Speaker 3: it out there. So yeah, genius doesn't care at all

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Speaker 3: about consensus. And even better than that, he is not

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Speaker 3: only watching all of these players, Marcus, like he's in person,

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Speaker 3: traveling to all these small schools and everything and watching

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Speaker 3: these guys play live. So even if you don't agree

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Speaker 3: with Emery, you should one hundred percent listen and take

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Speaker 3: what he says seriously.

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Speaker 1: You may disagree with the rankings, you cannot disagree with

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Speaker 1: the method because he puts in the legwork. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: he is traveling around the country. He is seeing a

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Speaker 1: lot of these guys live. It is legit the work

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Speaker 1: that he puts in. And I know there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of really good draft guys out there. Emries is

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Speaker 1: one that I make sure to pick up every single year.

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Speaker 1: So I was able to get that it it launched

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Speaker 1: on Monday. I picked it up. I am slowly scrolling

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Speaker 1: through it while I'm sitting at home watching whatever on TV,

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Speaker 1: but I would definitely suggest you get it. So looking

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Speaker 1: forward to talking to Emory today about some of the

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Speaker 1: things in the draft guy this year. In the meantime

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Speaker 1: that we do have some news and rumors things to

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Speaker 1: dive into. And first one, I was sort of out

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Speaker 1: of the loop a little bit this weekend, you know,

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Speaker 1: had some stuff going on, and I saw your text

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Speaker 1: Laquwan about the Dolphins and Raheem Moster agreeing on a

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Speaker 1: new two year deal worth up to nine point zero

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Speaker 1: seven to five million dollars. Let's go, look, this is

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Speaker 1: coming off what was an amazing season for Raheem Moster.

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Speaker 1: how bad is this for eight Chan's fantasy value that

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins are re upping with Raheem Moster.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of bad just based on where the e

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Speaker 2: So it definitely does take it step back because you know,

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Speaker 2: Raheem Moster's going to get all those goal on carries,

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Speaker 1: But I mean Flora. For me, it just feels like

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Speaker 1: h Chan. We you know, we always talk about regression,

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Speaker 1: right It just the R word pops up whenever somebody

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Speaker 1: next year. That is an insane number. I don't care

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Speaker 1: And I do feel like people are sort of drafting

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Speaker 1: I mean that that just feels impossible to duplicate again

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Speaker 3: Way it is because it was the best ever for

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighteen to eighty four. Targets went to Devon

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Speaker 3: Hn thirty to twenty one HN. They'll still had more yards.

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Speaker 3: Mostar had a eleven total touchdowns to a Chan's nine.

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Speaker 3: two The issue is like the Kwan was saying Mostart's

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Speaker 3: the upside is that high for a Chan, but the

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Speaker 3: financial investment shows that clearly Raheem Mostert is not going away,

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Speaker 3: it looks like in fantasy right now, we're gonna get

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Speaker 3: And well, as much as I like a Chan, my

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Speaker 1: So right now, in Best Ball drafts, Devon ah Chan

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Speaker 2: That is such a huge blessing discount there, and like

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Speaker 2: So right there with most are coming back and extension

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Speaker 2: like they know what they're doing, you know, interchanging them

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just you know, I like h Chan. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a good player. I think he's going to

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Speaker 1: continue to be productive. But you said, Lakwan, the draft

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Speaker 1: think it'd be more eight Chan coming down, maybe most

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Speaker 3: But fantasy players love them some upside.

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Speaker 1: They do love some upside. Man, they love upside, and

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Speaker 1: they love youth, and right now that is and speed. Right,

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Speaker 1: sort of get why he is where he is staying

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Speaker 1: in the state of Florida. In Jacksonville, Doug Peterson says,

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Speaker 1: we have to get Tank bigsby going bottom line that

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Speaker 1: bigsby a little bit more. Had a really good year

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Speaker 1: last year in very very limited oper I shouldn't say

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Speaker 1: Had some interesting plays, right, He started that well, had

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Speaker 1: some fumbles, kind of got relegated to very few touches,

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Speaker 1: lessen the workload on Travis etn Floria I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody is suddenly going out and drafting Tank

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Speaker 1: Bigsby all of a sudden. But does this mean we

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Speaker 1: should be worried about Travis Etn.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so. I always think it's better to

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Speaker 3: deal with like the beasts that you know. Let's see

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Speaker 3: how the draft plays out for the Jags. But I

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Speaker 3: thought coming out of free agency that Travis Etn was

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Speaker 3: one of the big winners because I was nervous of

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Speaker 3: them bringing in another running back, and with so many

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Speaker 3: free agents, but there was a lot of trades and

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Speaker 3: some quality, lower LI level players that I thought maybe

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Speaker 3: could come here and eat into Etn's workload. You look

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Speaker 3: at what Bigsby did last season, fifty carries for one

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Speaker 3: So he is not a threat at all to eat

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Speaker 3: into those valuable, valuable targets. It's something we talk about

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Speaker 3: a lot. A target has worked almost three times as

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Speaker 3: much value in PPR as a single carry is to

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Speaker 3: a running back. My only concern is goal line work

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Speaker 3: because last year, like you were saying, they did try

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Speaker 2: I like that they're being conservative. But you know, if

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Speaker 3: My approach with Chubb is gonna I'm gonna root hard

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh no, I mean, look, but I think that's

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Speaker 2: Remember Mike Davis is quiet say this a j Villon.

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Speaker 5: Listen, I appreciate you'all bring me on and always showing

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Speaker 4: it's perfect.

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Speaker 1: Because especially in December, it's still you know, sixty degrees

435
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 1: and like the sun is out. It's like they're still good.

436
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 1: They're still good. I was talk about some of these

437
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,200
Speaker 1: guys just kind of dive into some of these because

438
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Speaker 1: you know, you go through, you go through the draft

439
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 1: guide and you have these guys ranked and you get

440
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 1: them a rating. One of the things that jumped out

441
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Speaker 1: to me Caleb Williams your QB one, No surprise, Jayden

442
00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,720
Speaker 1: Daniels at number two, not a big surprise there. Number

443
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 1: three was Spencer Rattler, who this was a guy that

444
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Speaker 1: I know a couple of years ago. He was at Oklahoma.

445
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: He was a Heisman favorite. People thought he was going

446
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 1: to do big things. He ended up losing his job

447
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 1: to Caleb Williams, and you know, people have sort of,

448
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't say down on him, but he's not getting

449
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Speaker 1: the kind of love he did maybe two three years ago.

450
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: What is it about Spencer Rattler that you have locked

451
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Speaker 1: in on the.

452
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Speaker 5: Fact that you everything that you just mentioned to me,

453
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 5: that makes him a tougher, more pro ready prospect, right

454
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 5: because he has gone through some things. So let's say

455
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,879
Speaker 5: we're comparing Spencer Rattler to JJ McArthur where everything has

456
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 5: been sweet, right, and so man, give me the dude

457
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 5: that has you know, kind of and it's gonna sound awful,

458
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 5: but it makes sense.

459
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Speaker 4: Give me the restaurant that has a D rating.

460
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Speaker 1: Because I know planning right.

461
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 5: I know the food is on point right, So I

462
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 5: know Spencer Ratler has been through some stuff, but I

463
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Speaker 5: like that he's come out on the other side of

464
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 5: it and has performed well. Talked about how he started.

465
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 5: Everybody remember how great he was right out of the gate.

466
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 5: Then he started to play inconsistent ball. His second year

467
00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 5: got you know, bench for Caleb Williams, and Caleb Williams

468
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 5: did great things right out of the gate, so it

469
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Speaker 5: made Spencer look even worse. Then he goes to South Carolina,

470
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 5: didn't play well until the last six games of twenty

471
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Speaker 5: twenty two where he pulled off those big upsets against

472
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Speaker 5: Hinton Hooker at Tennessee.

473
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Speaker 4: Then he knocked off Clemson.

474
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Speaker 5: Then he did a great job versus Notre Dame, and

475
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Speaker 5: then you saw him this year follow up with that.

476
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 5: Despite not having the best offensive line play, he still

477
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Speaker 5: was able to keep together and play well. I've always

478
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Speaker 5: said I thought he outplayed Drake Me and at opener.

479
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 5: Drake Me and them won the game, but pound for pound,

480
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Speaker 5: Spencerrella played outplayed him in that game. So I feel

481
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Speaker 5: like he is the perfect comparison probably for Spencer Rally

482
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Speaker 5: is what we see now from Baker Mayfield. So Baker

483
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Speaker 5: Mayfield as a Buck is different than Baker Mayfield as

484
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Speaker 5: a Brown. And I much rather Baker Mayfield the buccaneer

485
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Speaker 5: than Baker Mayfield the Brown or even the Panther. And

486
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Speaker 5: I feel like because of what Baker has gone through,

487
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Speaker 5: he is a much better quarterback now than he was then.

488
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Speaker 5: And you want to see that progression, but I feel

489
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Speaker 5: like that's been Rattler's mo which is why I like

490
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Speaker 5: him at three.

491
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Speaker 3: You have Jordan Travis right behind him at number four,

492
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Speaker 3: and Travis got injured and it killed f hiss Used

493
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 3: chances of making the national championship. It also seemingly has

494
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Speaker 3: taken him out of the conversation to be one of

495
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Speaker 3: the top quarterbacks here. But is he being overlooked due

496
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Speaker 3: to his injury.

497
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Speaker 5: Absolutely. People are big on what they last seen. So

498
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Speaker 5: that's why whoever's pro day is today is going to

499
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Speaker 5: be the best quarterback in the class.

500
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Speaker 4: Right.

501
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 5: So last week it was Pennic Week, the week before

502
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Speaker 5: that was JJ McCarthy and then so on and so forth. Right,

503
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 5: So people are married to what they saw last And

504
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 5: I feel like if he had the chance to go

505
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 5: through the postseason in college and also the postseason All

506
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 5: Star Game. Probably would have been a Senior Bowl guy.

507
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 5: He was at the East West Ryan Bowldes doing interviews

508
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 5: and he was thrown at the combine. People would have

509
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 5: saw the athleticism and remember that this dude is a

510
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 5: really good football player, plays a lot like Russell Wilson

511
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 5: did at NC State, But because he got hurt and

512
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 5: he think his leg got amputated, they just forget that

513
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 5: he is a really good athletic quarterback. Then got better.

514
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 5: He still has two legs, He's gonna be fine. And

515
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 5: talking with him at a combound he talked about how

516
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Speaker 5: he got better as a passer over the course of

517
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 5: his career, which is again what you want to see

518
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 5: for someone that was used to wonder whether or not

519
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Speaker 5: he was gonna end up as a quarterback earlier in

520
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 5: his career, Like, I don't know, man, this guy is

521
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 5: tough out there to where you need him out there

522
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 5: to win games for you. You can't win without Jordan Travis.

523
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 5: That tells you a lot of how he progressed and

524
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Speaker 5: what I think about him as a pro prospect.

525
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Speaker 1: I love that di sscrection because the selection committee did

526
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Speaker 1: talk about Jordan Travis as though he you know, he

527
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: lost a leg. It was wild. JJ McCarthy is a

528
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Speaker 1: guy who has been a big, big riser up a

529
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Speaker 1: lot of draft boards. I mean people talking about him

530
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Speaker 1: maybe moving up, possibly moving up into the top five

531
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Speaker 1: or six overall. At this point, what is driving this

532
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Speaker 1: hype and is it for real with McCarthy, it's the

533
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Speaker 1: quarterback tax man.

534
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Speaker 5: Listen, if there's one person you blame for all this,

535
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 5: it's Kirk Cousins, right, you know what I'm saying. If

536
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 5: you go back to Kirk Cousins in Washington, he is

537
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 5: the reason why all of these quarterbacks are getting paid

538
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 5: as if they are Patrick Mahomes. But shout out to

539
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins for getting everybody paid. But I'm saying, you know,

540
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 5: when you look at people thinking that, oh we need

541
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Speaker 5: a guy and whoa, whoa Cousins. You know, the stats

542
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 5: look nice, you know, twenty eight touchdowns, four picks. Yeah,

543
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 5: but he took like seventy five sacks. He had like

544
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 5: seventy five fumbles. That kill drives. But the touchdown interception

545
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 5: ratio is going to always look great because there's a

546
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 5: lot of empty calories. And I'm not saying JJ McCarthy

547
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 5: is Kirk Cousins. I'm saying, because people are so desperate

548
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 5: to make a quarterback a savior, they push guys up

549
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 5: when what you should do is quarterback proof your roster

550
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 5: to where a guy can come in and just be

551
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 5: a part of the Wheell be a piece of the puzzle,

552
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 5: like Rock Party. Based off everything that we've seen from

553
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 5: brock Purty and everything that we know right now from

554
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 5: brock Purty, you're still not taking brock Purty in the

555
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 5: top five of an NFL draft, right because you know

556
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 5: brock Purty is a piece of the puzzle. So I

557
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 5: feel like JJ McCarthy is a good piece of the puzzle.

558
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 4: Now.

559
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna knock him for his throws because I

560
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 5: like it how people used to knock option quarterbacks like, oh,

561
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 5: he only beat ball twelve times, he can't really throw,

562
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 5: Like yeah, but think about how significant those twelve passes

563
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 5: had to be. Like, if we're only asking you to

564
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 5: throw fifteen times, you better connect on twelve of those fifteen.

565
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 5: And that's what McCarthy was able to do. And so

566
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 5: he protects the football, he keeps the offense on pace.

567
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 5: He's a good athlete, So you can get out there

568
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 5: and scramble and run and pick up those sheep for

569
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 5: his downs. He's a good player. I think he's more

570
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 5: of a second round type pick. But we know the

571
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 5: NFL is desperate for those those heroes, so they're gonna

572
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 5: push everybody. All those quarterbacks is gonna go up in

573
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 5: the first round.

574
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: Look, Tom Brady might be the go, but Kirk Cousins

575
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: is the go to getting paid. And that's what that's

576
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 3: what really matters. Looking over the like, I know you're

577
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 3: not a huge fan of Boon Knicks stuff like that,

578
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 3: but how many quarterbacks do you think we could see

579
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: get drafted in the first round this year?

580
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 4: Oh?

581
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 5: Probably six, because he talked about the four, you know,

582
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 5: and May McCarthy, Daniels and Kaleb and you got Pinnis

583
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 5: in there. And you know, there's this bow Knicks hype too,

584
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 5: because he started a lot of games. And if you

585
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 5: look at you got to if you're going to look

586
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 5: at Pinnicks as a Washington Husky as opposed to Indiana Hoosier,

587
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 5: you got to look at bow Knicks as an Oregon

588
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 5: Duck as opposed to an Auburn Tiger. And so they've

589
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 5: had two separate careers. So I could see six going

590
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 5: in round one because of hey man, what we saw

591
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 5: from bow Knicks. He got us Oregon was in every game.

592
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 5: He made some great plays off script. He's a good athlete,

593
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 5: and we know that he can help drive the offense. Right,

594
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 5: sayme with Pinnis and I feel like at some point

595
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 5: in time, if you're not going to be at the

596
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 5: top ten part portion of the draft, you don't want

597
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 5: to train up draft capital and that most important part

598
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 5: of the first round that has as of today, you know,

599
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 5: the Vikings, Broncos, and Raiders. That's that's what eleven, twelve,

600
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 5: and thirteen. That's an integral part where you may see

601
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 5: those three guys go to those teams.

602
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think this goes back to your

603
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: thing about the quarterback tax, right, everybody feeling like they

604
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: got to get the guy to the point that maybe

605
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 1: they start reaching for some guys and maybe that pulls

606
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: a guy or two up where he probably wouldn't have

607
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: been otherwise. I want to ask you about running backs

608
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: because this class hasn't gotten a ton of love, and

609
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm sort of going back and looking at it, and

610
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: I look back at some of the most more recent

611
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: classes where there have been one or two really big

612
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: stars and some other guys who look like contributors at

613
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: the NFL level. Is it that this class is really

614
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: just not great or is it just that they don't

615
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: have the top heaviness that we've seen in recent RB classes.

616
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 4: I think the latter is so true.

617
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 5: Everyone is looking for, you know, the explosive home run

618
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 5: hitter that can be out there every down, But that's

619
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 5: not this class. It's not to say that they don't

620
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: have guys that can hit the home run or that

621
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 5: can be every down backs, but you want to see

622
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 5: it combined for for two, like we said last year

623
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 5: with you know, Jamiir Gibbs or b John Robinson. Right,

624
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 5: but there's guys that can end up being starters based

625
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 5: off how they play. Like a Brellan Allen to me

626
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 5: can be a starter and if you want to get specific,

627
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 5: it could be a starter in Dallas, right, he could

628
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 5: be that Bell Coyle that they need. You look at

629
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 5: Denver Dinvererent has a bunch of backs. They need someone

630
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 5: that you can trust to be that lead dog, you know,

631
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: and in their backfield, or you look at a lot

632
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 5: of the other guys, hey man like we need someone

633
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 5: that can come in and provide a Keaton Mitchell spark,

634
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 5: or come in and provide a spark in terms of hey,

635
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 5: we need speed and exposiveness on the field. There's a

636
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 5: bunch of those guys. So I feel like this draft

637
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 5: has a great chance for a team to improve. There

638
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 5: RB two, there, RB three, and maybe a specialist in

639
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 5: terms of guys that can help you out in a

640
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 5: retur hern game as well.

641
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: And how much Jonathan Brooks he suffered the injury last year,

642
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: would he have been ranked higher by you had he

643
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 3: not suffered that injury, And what kind of impact do

644
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 3: you think he could make in the NFL?

645
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 4: You know, I like Brooks, I do feel like for Brooks.

646
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 5: For me, it was a balance issue where I felt

647
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 5: like he was getting tipped over too often. It's almost

648
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 5: like he had a clumsy running style like Jeremy Lankford

649
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 5: or how he used to run, where you know, he's

650
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 5: a long legged guy, where you're running and you don't

651
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 5: have a good center of gravity and somebody hit you

652
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 5: on a hip and you tell.

653
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 4: You topple over. I felt like he also, you.

654
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 5: Know, needed to be a little bit more patient behind

655
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage. That's why I thought Baxter was

656
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 5: a more well rounded back at Texas as opposed to Brooks.

657
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 5: So I like Brooks, but I feel like Brooks is

658
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 5: someone that's kind of like how Latavious Murray runs, where

659
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: you know, you see him running tall and get toppled

660
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 5: over a little bit. You know, they doesn't really have

661
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,719
Speaker 5: the balance. So I feel like that's where Brooks is

662
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 5: for me. We wouldn't have been RB one. I feel

663
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 5: like Alan because of his youth, is his footwork and

664
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 5: his ability to really still get better. You know, he's

665
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 5: like fifteen years old, right, because he started college very early.

666
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: He was such a.

667
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 5: Young player, and so he got a lot more runway

668
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 5: to work with and still has more upside.

669
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 4: Left in this game.

670
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: You mentioned Latavius Murray, and our friend and colleague Adam

671
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: Rank once said, Latavius Murray runs like a door and

672
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: that's an image that has always stuck with me, just

673
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: him running just upright like a door. Point Marshaun Lloyd. Look,

674
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: everybody who listen to the show knows that I am

675
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: I am a usc homer. I love to see the

676
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: sc guys succeed, and he was a guy that I

677
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: thought kind of got misused a little bit last year

678
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: as they really put a lot on Caleb Williams. You

679
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: made the comp to Aaron Jones, which I think is great.

680
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: How do you see him kind of fitting into the

681
00:31:59,320 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: next level.

682
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 5: I think he's he's Aaron Jones, like in terms of

683
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 5: how fluid he is a runner.

684
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: I think he'd be someone's starter.

685
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 5: And it was funny watching him because when you're watching

686
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 5: him play, maybe it's a USC uniform, but I felt

687
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 5: like he was five eleven two twenty five, and I

688
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 5: was like, wow, he's.

689
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: That's He's like, wow, that's crazy.

690
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 5: But he runs, he runs, He has a he just

691
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 5: has a good natural running style. He can catch the

692
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 5: ball well out of the backfield. There's a little bit

693
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 5: too impatient as well too. You'll see him like run

694
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 5: uping in the back of a lot, run up the

695
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 5: back of a lineman, a little.

696
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 4: Bit too hesitant to get to the whole. Uh. And

697
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 4: sometimes they'll work out for me.

698
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 5: You go watch the Colorado game, he kind of ran

699
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 5: up the back of a lineman but then reverse field

700
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 5: and then went back and scored like a forty yard

701
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 5: touchdown runner on a saying on that play and Grant.

702
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 5: It's Colorado defense like, so you know, take you over

703
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 5: the grand self, but you saw like the ability to

704
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 5: make something out of nothing. And I like the fact

705
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 5: that he is someone that was good at South Carolina,

706
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 5: transferred to USC, got the starting job, and still played well.

707
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 4: So I feel like he.

708
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 5: Is someone I hate to use the term sleeper for

709
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 5: a dude that is played at USC. In your role

710
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 5: at the combine, no one is talking enough about Barshon Lloyd.

711
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he is one that I.

712
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 3: Feel like, as we get closer and closer, has been

713
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 3: getting a little bit more hype, but still not enough.

714
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 3: And Emery, you said, you're sick of talking about the

715
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: same nine players all the time. Everyone has been talking

716
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior for years now. But not only is

717
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 3: he not your wide receiver one, you have Keon Coleman

718
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: and Jermaine Burton over him. So I'm sure people when

719
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 3: they look at the guy that jumps out to them,

720
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: what is it that you like about those two over

721
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison explosiveness?

722
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 5: And here's the thing, man, People just think and we

723
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 5: work in media, we work for major networks and outlets.

724
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 5: Not once in a production meeting has anyone said hey,

725
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: do this for clicks right now.

726
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 4: Up, you know what I'm saying.

727
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 5: So I'm telling you what I feel and what I've

728
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 5: seen right and how I view it.

729
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 4: When you watch those other receivers play, it's heartache or

730
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: the explosiveness. And you know, and that's the biggest aspect

731
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 4: of today's game at receiver, because yes, you want to

732
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 4: drop back seven step, drop good protection and launch a

733
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 4: deep ball to a big, tall wide receiver. Football isn't

734
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 4: played that way anymore, so you got to be able

735
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 4: to take this hitch and go seventy yards. Those guys

736
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 4: burden neighbors a doon'sday. Even Coleman people sleep on his

737
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 4: his elusiveness as a runner. Those guys can create after

738
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: the catch. Not saying Marvin Harrison cat can't, but those

739
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 4: guys do it in a more explosive manner than does

740
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison Junior, who's a very good receiver. We know

741
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 4: he's gonna be an insane redizone threat, but in terms

742
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: of creating your own shot, you gotta work better off

743
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 4: bump press, and he has to be he has to

744
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 4: find ways to create separation because NFL defensive backs will

745
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 4: be in his hip pocket. Consistently.

746
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: I mean, if things get bad for Marvin Harrison Junior,

747
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: I know he's got a guy he can call, he

748
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: can lean on for experience and uh some pointers if

749
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: he comes down to it, and in a little bit

750
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: of cash if you need some saving money. I don't.

751
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: I don't think that part is going to be a

752
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: problem for him at any point. Zam. You're Worthy as

753
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: a guy who blew everybody away with his forty time

754
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: at the combine.

755
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 4: Uh.

756
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: People love his speed, they love his explosiveness. People are

757
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: worried about his size. How does all that factor in?

758
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: Is the forty time overblown or is there is there

759
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: something really there with Worthy?

760
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 5: There's something really there people people look at the forty

761
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 5: and forget the film. Like I could have told you

762
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 5: he was fast, like watching How He Is Blue Past,

763
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 5: you know Bama's secondary and like and it was And

764
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 5: it was great about this year's Bama game because last

765
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 5: year watching him versus you felt like he was a

766
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 5: double agent, like bro, like, let me check your drafts

767
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 5: without you know what I'm.

768
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: Saying, because why are you dropping these wide open passes?

769
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 5: But this year did a great job getting underneath the reception,

770
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 5: making some big plays, so I felt like he was

771
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 5: a little bit more consistent this year and catching the football.

772
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 5: So his speed is evident. He can get deep. He's

773
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 5: not just a fast guy that you put out there.

774
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 5: He is someone as a legit receiver that can work

775
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 5: himself open. I think he's a I think he's a

776
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 5: little bit better than Hollywood Brown was as a prospect

777
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 5: according to migrating Scale, and I feel like that's something

778
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 5: that that has value. So, yeah, he could play inside,

779
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 5: he could play outside as a as a Z receiver.

780
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 5: But he's not just a fast guy that you just

781
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 5: throw out there. He's a He's a legit football player

782
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 5: that just happens to be Olympic type fast.

783
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 4: Don't let him go to Miami.

784
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned Mark Heith Brown because I keep

785
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 3: saying that worthy to me just feels like he was

786
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: born to play on the Chiefs like Gett Homes that weapon.

787
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: Good luck the rest of the NFL. But this class, Emory,

788
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 3: not only does it have a ton of high end talent,

789
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: it's deep as well. So who are some because look,

790
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: Emery scouts a thousand players every year, So who are

791
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: some of the deeper wide receiver the diamond and the

792
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 3: rough type prospects that you have your eye on.

793
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 5: Well, and I say this in jest, right, because people

794
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 5: love to eat eat.

795
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 4: Like the propaganda is out there, right.

796
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 5: People will sit there and say he comes from a

797
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 5: small school Colorado, Like you know, they try to limit

798
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 5: small schools to anything not SEC or PAC twelve.

799
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 4: Right.

800
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 5: No, I'm not gonna let people get away with that,

801
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 5: but I will say this, Exavier Weaver of Colorado.

802
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 4: Is a really good receiver. No one's talking about fantastic receiver.

803
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: He works himself hoping consistently, great hands, and he was

804
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 5: sure Sanders, who is QB one for twenty twenty five,

805
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 5: he was working himself open. It was his favorite target

806
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 5: or Sanders consistently open. Now, if you want to go deeper,

807
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 5: you know, you talk about guys that that will be

808
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 5: these fan favorites come, you know, spring and summer. How

809
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 5: about John Giles of West Florida six two to two

810
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 5: oh two, the Argonauts Elite Leaping Ability. I was at

811
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 5: the College GRIDN showcase and it's it's this is in

812
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 5: Fort Worth, Texas. So this is first week of January,

813
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 5: like the sixth through the ninth. So we're talking like

814
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: forty degrees would win. So it's cold out there, and

815
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 5: he's out there just like it's a seventy five degree day.

816
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 5: Just fluid to Bacon. DB's all day and got a

817
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 5: call up late to the Hula Bowl the following week

818
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 5: and performed really well there on a short notice against

819
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 5: FBS defensive backs consistently. Right then, you saw Kyle Sheets,

820
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 5: a receiver from Slippery Rock six two twenty two. He

821
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 5: ran at his pro day recently that the Temple's pro

822
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 5: day ran like low fourth or high four four or

823
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 5: low four or five. But for someone that's six two

824
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 5: twenty two, that's that's very good. He's able to win

825
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 5: off the line of scrimmage. He can stack defensive backs,

826
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: which means he keeps it. He keeps that separation between

827
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 5: him and the defender where it needs to be. He

828
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 5: can track the ball well deep down the field. Plays

829
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 5: a lot like Pooka Nakua. You know, so that's a

830
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 5: name that people kind of recognize, But this dude plays

831
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 5: this year's pookah, this year's year. First you see it

832
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 5: come out, you know, because we all had to meet

833
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 5: and you guys say, say something for clicks, right, So,

834
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 5: but he's he's a good one. And there's there's uh,

835
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 5: you know, there's these two Division three guys I always

836
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 5: want to bring up because it's funny when you watch

837
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 5: Division three players and you see the guys just do

838
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 5: things on the field that you don't see you don't

839
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 5: see from other guys. Right, You're like, all right, is

840
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 5: this guy fast or is he D three fast?

841
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: Right?

842
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 5: But then he gets then the kid Cole Burgess from Courtland.

843
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 5: I watched the Division three national championship game and it

844
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 5: was col Ryland versus North Central out of Illinois, and

845
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 5: they both had elite level receivers. Now I knew about

846
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 5: Dangelo Hardy, who kind of stylistically reminds me of Andre Reid.

847
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 5: How he's a catch and run guy. He's six six

848
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 5: feet one nine florid athlete, fantastic receiver. I want to

849
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 5: say he had like two hundred yards receiving in that

850
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 5: game and they were going score for score. But Burgess.

851
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 5: I'm watching Burgess' game, his regular season games before I

852
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 5: watch the championship game. I'm like, is this dude legitimately

853
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 5: did he do something to his highlight table?

854
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 4: Basically like two times fast forward.

855
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 5: Because the separation is insane and he ran a four

856
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 5: four forty at University of Buffalo's Pro eight. But he's

857
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 5: another one that's a deep ball type guy. He's going

858
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 5: to be a zero receiver. He can fly down the field.

859
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 5: And both of those guys were going back and forth.

860
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 5: You want to see guys stand out, you want to

861
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 5: see their speed translates. So those small school guys, even

862
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 5: from the Division.

863
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 4: III level, really stood out consistently. I didn't see any

864
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: any All Star games for both guys, but so you

865
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 4: have to trust the tape and trust that they're athleticism translation.

866
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,240
Speaker 4: But for Sheets and Giles, those dudes have the goods.

867
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: So as I go through mock drafts looking at them, generally,

868
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: I see anywhere's six, seven, maybe eight wide receivers in

869
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: the first round getting drafted. Do you think we get

870
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: that many? Could it be more?

871
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 5: You know what's funny about that is I feel like

872
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 5: there's gonna be We all know there's a run that

873
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 5: starts in the draft, and we expect quarterbacks to go one, two, three, right,

874
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 5: maybe even for somebody trades up. But wherever the first

875
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 5: receiver or first tackle is taken, expect the next five

876
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 5: to be receiver or tackle right, So I do feel

877
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 5: like we'll get six receivers, especially with Buffalo just did

878
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 5: you know. It's like, you know, we can lock Buffalo

879
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 5: in for one. But I feel like with the elite level,

880
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 5: top end talent that we have year's class, people were

881
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 5: in line when they say it's a deep receivers classes.

882
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 5: It really is, and you expect at least five to

883
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 5: six receivers because there's a variety of types of guys.

884
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 5: There's tall guys that can run, shorter guys that can run,

885
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 5: guys on both sides of the spectrum that can catch

886
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 5: and run, and so it's a great class to get

887
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 5: wide receivers. I would say it's probably gonna look like

888
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 5: twenty fourteen in my opinion.

889
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 3: So six or seven in round one. I'm thinking by

890
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 3: the end of night too, we're probably gonna have like

891
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 3: fifteen off the board.

892
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 4: Maybe. Well if teams by the guy they see we

893
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 4: have like eighty to go through, we can get draft

894
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: receivers all night, you know what I mean.

895
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 5: Exabula Get Out of South Carolina is another one that's

896
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 5: really dog one good. There's a bunch of explosive talents

897
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 5: that we'll see going round two. It's well, we may

898
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 5: see the same number replicating Round two.

899
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of xaviers in this drafts.

900
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 5: If you're worthies, have your weavers game around that two

901
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 5: thousand and two thousand and one era.

902
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: Apparently what before we let you go?

903
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 3: And I know I asked for some deeper wide receiver prospects,

904
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: but you go eighty eight quarterbacks deep. You go hundreds

905
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: of total players deep. Every year, there's, like we were saying,

906
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: Tarik Cohen, there's always a couple of guys that you

907
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: were just higher on that most of the public hasn't

908
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 3: even heard of. So I'm wondering, who is that player

909
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: or maybe a couple of players for you this year.

910
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 5: I give you a quarterback that that's that no one's

911
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 5: talking about. Man, It's just I was watching as I'm

912
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 5: grading uh qbs. I'm like, you know, I see a

913
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 5: guy name and I'm justorry he's a senior. All right,

914
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: let me let me add him in the guy right,

915
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 5: because there's an ego involved.

916
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 4: I got to have a lot of you.

917
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 5: Know, prospects, greedd right, so let me let me ask

918
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 5: some more guys to his listen. I don' almost cut

919
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 5: it off at you know sixty, let me find twenty

920
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 5: eight more guys, right, But I'm great in Illinois, and

921
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, this dude, John Pattick is is is

922
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 5: pretty dog gone good? Like he's like he got in

923
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 5: because the starter got hurt All timer Altimayer, I think

924
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 5: his name is got hurt and Paddock was the backup,

925
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,479
Speaker 5: came in and was lighting up defenses. I'm like, why

926
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 5: is this dude awesome man? Why wasn't he at an

927
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 5: All Star Game? And so I think he's like Brock Purdy.

928
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 5: So I think he's gonna be this year's Brock Purdy.

929
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 5: John Pattick why quarterback out of Illinois. And in terms

930
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 5: of running back situation, we talked about Marshall Lloyd. I

931
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 5: will bring up Marcus Knight out of Tennessee Tech. And

932
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 5: this is another one that just kind of like randomly

933
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 5: popped up on my radar. And because he didn't play

934
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 5: in an All Star Game. But I was like, I've

935
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 5: heard this.

936
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 4: Dude name before.

937
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 5: Now I remember, oh, yeah, this is a dude that

938
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 5: started at Montana that was nice. He was nice at Montana.

939
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 5: He's six feet hundred, twenty two pounds. Kind of reminds

940
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 5: you It reminds me a lot of Tim high Tower.

941
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 5: But then he left football at Montana and played lacrosse

942
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 5: at Montana and I was like, well that's pretty interesting.

943
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 5: So you know, he has the athleticism. Then he goes

944
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 5: Tennessee Tech and they run a try back system. But

945
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 5: when he was getting the football, it was like, Okay,

946
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 5: this dude clearly is running with a purpose. He's running

947
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 5: finding lane. So he is someone that's going to end

948
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 5: up on you know, a priority free agent type get

949
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 5: deal and have a fun camp or something that will

950
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 5: end up making the roster, probably Baltimore, you know, and

951
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 5: to be one of these backs that we talk about

952
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 5: that no one has talked about that in mid season

953
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: and who the hell is Marcus Knight?

954
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 4: There he is.

955
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 5: But and just to throw it out there, defensive guy

956
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 5: because I know this is this fantasy, but I gotta

957
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 5: throw all the defensive guy. But Antonio Final if the

958
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 5: name sounds familiar, he was a five star, number one

959
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 5: recruiting the nation that went to Alabama, went to a

960
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 5: couple of practices and then left the team. And Nick

961
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 5: sables like, well he just quit, right, and so he

962
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 5: just transferred to another school. Penn statean, then transferred to

963
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 5: another school that didn't play anywhere, then ended up at

964
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 5: Lakajuana Community College. He's still he's still a five star

965
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 5: recruit playing at Lakajuana, and his tape looks like that

966
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 5: where he's just like like this, this dude is a

967
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 5: legit NFL player playing against juco talent. And you know

968
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 5: he's six ' four, two seventy five that no one

969
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 5: is talked about his protest coming up and he's gonna

970
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 5: test through the roof. But he is someone that if

971
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 5: you see him get drafted on day three, don't think

972
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 5: it's an eraror you know that a guy gets drafted

973
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 5: from Lahajuana Community College. But you gotta follow the athletes,

974
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 5: and this dude is insanely athletic.

975
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, like real quick, how much harder

976
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: is this now with the transfer portal and guys moving

977
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: everywhere the way they do so hard?

978
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 5: Man, There's so much time during this great process where

979
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 5: I wanted to throw my laptop and and everything out

980
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 5: the windom.

981
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: Like so I'm like, you great a guy? Do you like?

982
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: You?

983
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 5: You go online as you know what a search his

984
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 5: name is like, you know he has long tweets like yeah,

985
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 5: I committed to Like, bro, what you mean you committed?

986
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 4: I just graded your film like another year. Like so

987
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 4: it's hard.

988
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 5: So I'm glad we're getting back to I think this

989
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 5: might be the last year because you got freshman that

990
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 5: started in twenty twenty one, so they don't get that

991
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 5: COVID year. That's the thing that I think we're now

992
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 5: going to get back to. If you're a senior, you're

993
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 5: a senior, and I'm glad the.

994
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,919
Speaker 3: COVID guys, I mean you got like twenty five. There's

995
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 3: a tight end that's legit going to be kicked off

996
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 3: his parents' health insurance by the Tommy reaches the NFL,

997
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: Like that has to make it harder.

998
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 5: I tell you what, man, you know who is notoriously

999
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 5: known for this and I noticed this during the process,

1000
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna call him out. Even though I like

1001
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 5: the program. They're a very good program at the Division

1002
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 5: two level. They won that's championship a couple of years ago.

1003
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: Farah State.

1004
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 5: Like so I'm great and I'm great in d N

1005
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 5: and I'm like, oh, this is nice. Man, Like, you know,

1006
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 5: athletic well put together. Then I go and you know,

1007
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 5: to ask you see how the guy that set up

1008
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 5: and has a session for a career lades. All right,

1009
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 5: let me go put in the stats at the bottom

1010
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 5: and I scrolled I don't know what, maybe scrolled out

1011
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 5: to his birthday and it was like ninety six.

1012
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 4: I'm like, hold on, dog, right right quick? What are

1013
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 4: you going up? Man out there like quarterback? Who I

1014
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 4: was like, Oh, it's cool.

1015
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 5: Malik uh Mitchell finally got an opportunity to start, you know,

1016
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 5: at quarterbackuse he bought his time behind Garrek Bernhardt who

1017
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 5: was twenty nine years old. He was a lacrosse dude

1018
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 5: that played at Maryland and so he ended up with

1019
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 5: the Falcons. Like cool, Malik Mitchell got his opportunity, stayed there,

1020
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 5: say the course led them to the playoffs.

1021
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 4: And I'm looking at his his birthday. I'm like, bro,

1022
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: you gotta be kidding me.

1023
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 5: Like he was born in ninety seven, ninety eight, and

1024
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 5: he's right now starting quarterback for a team of the

1025
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 5: Indoor Football League.

1026
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 4: So he knew the NFL process wasn't even wait like

1027
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 4: Parrish State, stop with these old players, man.

1028
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: Like, oh man, that's great. Her as always did, we

1029
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: appreciate the time we appreciate the insight. Uh I put

1030
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1031
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1032
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1033
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1034
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1035
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1036
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1037
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1038
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1039
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1040
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1041
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Speaker 5: shipped me my book?

1042
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Speaker 4: Like bro, I would tell you a thousand bucks for

1043
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Speaker 4: this level of insight.

1044
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Speaker 1: Right.

1045
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1046
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1047
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1048
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1049
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Speaker 4: What can you do? Where can he get better? How

1050
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1051
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1052
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1053
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1054
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1055
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1056
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Speaker 1: check this thing out. Emory, as always, dude, we appreciate

1057
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: your time. Enjoy the rest of draft season. I know

1058
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: you're out, you're promoting the book, man, but enjoy the

1059
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: rest of draft season. We will definitely talk again soon.

1060
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 4: I need to slap New York Town's bestseller on top

1061
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,000
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1062
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely as that happen.

1063
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Speaker 3: Let's push that now.

1064
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Speaker 1: Let's make that happen. Dude. Yeah, man, but I enjoyed

1065
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: draft season. Do we'll catch up.

1066
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 4: Thank you, guys, appreciate it.

1067
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: We's like a quick break, come back. Talk some Stefan digs.

1068
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: He's got some new digs down there in Houston. Talk

1069
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: about that next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Well,

1070
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: the big news happening as we were starting the show

1071
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: and could not go without talking about it, and that

1072
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: is the Bills trading Stefan Diggs to the Houston Texans.

1073
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: In return, they get a second round pick in twenty

1074
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: twenty five. So, Floria, I mean, let's just you are here.

1075
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure you are in your feelings, your initial thoughts

1076
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: on Stefan Diggs no longer being in Western New York.

1077
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 4: I hate it.

1078
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it.

1079
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 4: I hate it.

1080
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: I hate it. I look.

1081
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 3: I think Bills fans are going through it right now.

1082
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: A lot of them have been tweeting me and saying

1083
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 3: stuff that I've been saying for a while now. Like

1084
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 3: he declined under Joe Brady, he averaged forty three yards per.

1085
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: Game under Joe Brady.

1086
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 3: No denying that his worst month statistically every year since

1087
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 3: he's been a Buffalo Bill is December. He's in the

1088
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 3: playoff games where the Bills have been eliminated, he's largely

1089
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 3: been held in check. I said after their loss to

1090
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 3: the Chiefs this year that I actually have doubts for

1091
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: the first time about if Diggs is the answer for

1092
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: wide receiver war So I would be okay moving on

1093
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 3: if it just came at a better Like to me,

1094
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: it's the fact that they're eating nearly thirty million in

1095
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 3: dead cap, that they're giving up two additional draft picks,

1096
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 3: and they're just getting a second round pick next year.

1097
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: Every free agent that could make an impact has already

1098
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: found a home. So yeah, they're kind of putting all

1099
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: their eggs in the basket of trying to replace him.

1100
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: Via the draft. I don't think they have enough firepower

1101
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 3: though to get one of the big three wide receivers

1102
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 3: and know of I mean, look, we know Emery Hunt,

1103
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,280
Speaker 3: loves Keyon Coleman and Jermaine Burton, and there's other names

1104
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 3: out there that they can get. But I believe when

1105
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: you have a twenty eight year old quarterback that I

1106
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 3: truly believe is a top two quarterback walking the planet.

1107
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 3: At worst, he's top four, your goal every year is

1108
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 3: how can we get as best suited as possible to

1109
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl? And I think the Bills are

1110
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: right now further from the super Bowl than they were

1111
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 3: twenty four hours ago.

1112
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they are as well. The problem

1113
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: is I don't see them trading up right, I mean

1114
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: herely is they have given up a lot this offseason, right.

1115
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: They lose they trade Stefan Diggs, They've lost Gabe Davis,

1116
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: They've they've lost some stuff along the offensive line. If anything,

1117
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: they need to be trying to acquire more draft capital,

1118
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: trying to acquire more assets that way. And I don't

1119
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: think they're in a position really to be giving up

1120
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: draft assets to move up, even to get at one

1121
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: of the top level wide receivers. I guess the good

1122
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: news is that because this draft is deep, there's likely

1123
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: going to be somebody there for them at number twenty eight,

1124
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: and at some point they're going to have to make

1125
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: a move to fill one of those gaps. Now, because

1126
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: you have lost your top two wide receivers. I don't

1127
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: remember who I saw tweeted, I'm sorry for now remembering,

1128
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: but none of the wide receivers from the thirteen second

1129
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: game are there anymore. They're all gone.

1130
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: Room Stefon Diggs had in that thirteen second game seven,

1131
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, that it hurts. But the thing is he is,

1132
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 3: as a long time suffering Bills fan, he is the

1133
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: best wide receiver they've ever had since I've started watching them,

1134
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: and that that goes back over twenty years.

1135
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: So all right, so let's talk about this fantasy wise though,

1136
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: right it's just starting in Buffalo because Josh Allen has

1137
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: sort of been the undisputed QB one for a while now.

1138
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: But now he doesn't have Gabe Davis, he doesn't have

1139
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs. Yes, he does have Dalton Kincaid and James Cook,

1140
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: Khalil Shakir. Is he and he can still run?

1141
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 4: Is he?

1142
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: Still the QB one.

1143
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 3: I think it's an incomplete right now as to who

1144
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 3: their wide receiver one is. If they go out and

1145
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 3: make a trade for a different veteran wide receiver that

1146
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 3: is rumored to be out there or something like that,

1147
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: then maybe I feel a little bit different about it.

1148
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: But I kind of spoke about this on the cheat

1149
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 3: sheet last week, like I've had Josh Allen as QB

1150
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 3: one fantasy for years now, but under Joe Brady, the

1151
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: passing numbers went down and it was like less than

1152
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 3: two hundred and forty passing yards per game, less than

1153
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 3: two passing touchdowns per game. He was heavily relyant on

1154
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: the running and the rushing touchdowns, and you're not going

1155
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: to get fifteen rushing touchdowns out of your quarterback all

1156
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 3: the time. So I do think this opens up the window.

1157
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: Like for me, before this move, I was very much

1158
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 3: show Allen has won, even though I think there's a

1159
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 3: conversation now if you want to put Hurtz or Lamar

1160
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 3: or Mahomes, I might argue it, but I understand the

1161
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 3: logic and to me, though, those are the big four quarterbacks,

1162
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 3: and I know I say stuff like this a lot.

1163
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 3: You could jumble him up in any sort of order,

1164
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 3: and it probably feels like he'll still make a right decision.

1165
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, at this moment, Jalen Hurts is

1166
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: probably my QB one with the passing weapons he has,

1167
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: with his ability to run the football. We'll see if

1168
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: he still has the touchdown upside, if they're still using

1169
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: the brotherly shove at the goal line. They add Sakwan Barkley,

1170
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: which is another weapon out of the backfield who can

1171
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: run and catch the football. On paper, this is a loaded,

1172
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: loaded offense. So right now, he's my QB one. I

1173
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: do reserve the right to change my mind based on

1174
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: what happens with Buffalo over the next couple of months,

1175
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: But I don't know that I can put Josh Allen

1176
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: up there. I still think I'm with you, he's one

1177
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: of the top four. I would probably my gut feeling

1178
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: is to have him at three, to go with Jalen Hurts,

1179
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: then Lamar, then Josh Allen, and it's a close three

1180
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: of me because Mahomes is definitely there too now that

1181
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 1: they've added Hollywood Brown, so there's a lot there on

1182
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: the other side. I guess let's stay with Buffalo here.

1183
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: First pass catching. I mean, I've seen a lot of

1184
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: people already putting Dalton Kincaid as a top five tight end.

1185
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: Does that sit okay with you? I think it's it's.

1186
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 3: Okay with me, But that is top five, Like tight

1187
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 3: end five would be the absolutely highest I'd be willing

1188
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: to put him because I mean, I'm not willing to

1189
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 3: put him over Sam Laporta, Travis Kelce, Mark Andrews, and

1190
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 3: I think Trey McBride still comfortably sits ahead of him.

1191
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 3: But after that, I mean it's like it's it's Kinkaid,

1192
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 3: Pitt's Kittle, Like that is the second tier of tight ends.

1193
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, right now, out of all of those secondary options,

1194
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: volume is in king.

1195
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: Kaid's favor, I would say, I mean, I think so, right.

1196
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have any wide receivers that are

1197
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna threaten him. Sure, James Cook will get targets, but

1198
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 1: not enough to really make a big, big impact, you know.

1199
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sort of looking. I mean, we don't

1200
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: have a healthy TJ. Hawkinson to start the year. George Kittle,

1201
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: his overall numbers look fine, but the week to week

1202
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: is gonna be up and down with so many things

1203
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: going On in San Francisco. Maybe so, I mean, I

1204
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 1: love Dalton Kinkaid coming out of Utah. I know you

1205
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: love Dalton kin Kaid when they drafted him. He's sort

1206
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: of had Dalton Schultz or not Dalton Schultze, Dawson Knox

1207
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: kind of in his way a little bit seems like

1208
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: they've cleared the deck. So maybe just volume alone sort

1209
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: of gets him in that situation. On the Houston side,

1210
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: is c J. Stroud at top five fantasy quarterback now?

1211
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 3: So to me still I don't think he goes in

1212
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 3: that tier one, which we just said was those other four,

1213
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 3: Alan Hurtz, Jackson Mahomes, whatever order you want to put

1214
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 3: him in. To me, c J. Stroud comes in as

1215
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: QB five, but I put him in the same tier.

1216
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: It's a short tier for me as of right now.

1217
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: Of this second quarterback one, it's Stroud, Joe Burrow, Anthony Richardson.

1218
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 3: I think you could mix those guys up. Maybe you

1219
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: can make a case for like a dak or Kyler

1220
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 3: or Jordan Love to join them. But to me, those

1221
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: are the three that, while they're not quite as proven

1222
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 3: or as high of a ceiling, I would say as

1223
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 3: those the top four because of what those four give

1224
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: you with their legs. Anthony Richardson could give you a

1225
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: ton with their legs. Joe Burrow and c. J. Stroud

1226
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 3: have the capability of just going off as passers and

1227
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: giving you forty five hundred passing yards and thirty five

1228
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 3: passing touchdowns. So and with Stroud, the reason I would

1229
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 3: put him over Burrow is because there's less injury concern.

1230
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: Like love Joe Burrow when he's out there on the field,

1231
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 3: but having him be on the field has been an

1232
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: issues in two of the last three seasons or two

1233
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: of the last four seasons. So because of that and

1234
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 3: the youth on c. J. Stroud's side, I'm going to

1235
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 3: go with him. But who good luck figuring out that

1236
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 3: Texans wide receiver room.

1237
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: That's the next thing, right because now they've got Nico Collins,

1238
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna have sank Dell healthy at some point. They've

1239
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: got Stefan Diggs, they've got Dalton Schultz at the tight

1240
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: end spot. They added Joe Mixon, who, you know, maybe

1241
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: not a huge pass catcher, nobody's gonna confuse him with,

1242
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: you know, Christian McCaffrey, but can offer something out of

1243
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: the backfield. I'm it's gonna be It's gonna be one

1244
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: of those things we're on a week to week basis.

1245
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 1: We thought it was frustrating last year trying to figure

1246
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: out Collins in Dell, It's going to be even more

1247
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: frustrating now than you have a third guy in the mix. Yes,

1248
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: even with a you know, if you believe that Stefan

1249
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: Diggs is diminished, which is a fair criticism, right, even

1250
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:11,720
Speaker 1: if you believe that, it's still gonna be really really

1251
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: hard to figure out the other thing for me, and

1252
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: this applies to both the pass catchers and to Stroud himself.

1253
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: How much more passing volume can this offense have? Because

1254
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: Stroud through the ball almost five hundred times last year, right,

1255
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: that was you know, top fifteen in terms of pass attempts. Sure,

1256
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: maybe that number goes up a little bit, but now

1257
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: you potentially have a more consistent running game with Joe

1258
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: Mixon there. How much more passing volume does he have?

1259
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: Can he spread the ball around to I won't say

1260
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: support well, I mean can he support four pass catchers? Right?

1261
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 1: Can he support the three wide receivers and a tight end?

1262
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: That part, to me gets a little bit dicey. Can

1263
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: he support all those guys on a regular basis, And

1264
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: even as good as his rookie season was, I'm just

1265
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: not sure if there's enough volume right now.

1266
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1267
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 3: And the thing is Steph did four years in a row,

1268
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 3: has been one hundred catch receiver, one hundred and fifty

1269
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 3: plus targets, and he's very vocal. He's not gonna go

1270
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: somewhere and suddenly become the third option in the passing games.

1271
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 3: So I think that all three will be heavily involved.

1272
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: I am excited to dive a little bit deeper once

1273
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 3: we finish this up and see the usage and everything

1274
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 3: for all three. But you look at at like Tank

1275
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 3: Dell for example, he had two games last year with

1276
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 3: more than six catches. Like Nicocollins was a big play

1277
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 3: merchant as well. And that's what makes this offense so

1278
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 3: much fun is they didn't need a ton of volume

1279
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 3: because CJ. Stroud arguably was the best deep ball passer

1280
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 3: last year.

1281
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: That it was.

1282
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 3: You weren't banking on Dell or Nico Collins to get

1283
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: you six, seven, eight catches every week and that's how

1284
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: you get your points. You were like, give me these

1285
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: fifty yard touchdowns. That's what I want, and I don't

1286
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 3: think that's Dig's strong point. It was a big issue

1287
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: actually down the stretch him and Allen couldn't get on

1288
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 3: the same page, somewhere on Allen, somewhere on Digs when

1289
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 3: it came to the not being able to connect on

1290
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 3: the deep ball. But I think Diggs now suits in

1291
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 3: as your possession guy. He's going to be your chain mover.

1292
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 3: He's probably gonna lead you in targets most weeks, whereas

1293
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: those other guys are going to be the big play ones.

1294
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 3: I keep thinking about it, and the more I think

1295
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 3: about it, the more I'm like, they're all probably will

1296
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 3: settle somewhere in like a wide receiver two range, maybe

1297
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 3: like fifteen to twenty four and maybe a little bit

1298
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 3: spread that out a little bit more. But week to

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01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 3: week is going to be if everyone stays healthy, it's

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01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 3: probably going to be frustrating.

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01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be really, really frustrating, but it's gonna be

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01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: fun to watch. And I know we've said this before,

1303
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: I will say it again. Jacksonville's perceived rain atop the

1304
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: AFC South looks like it's going to be way shorter

1305
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 1: than any of us had ever anticipated. Because the Texans

1306
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: are loaded, actually on the offensive side. I said it today.

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01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 3: You can tell me from crazy. I think right now

1308
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 3: the Texans should have higher Super Bowl adds than the Bills.

1309
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy, not at this moment. Again,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens by the time draft

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01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: season is over and we get to the start of

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01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: the year. But for right now, I don't think that's

1313
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: crazy at all. Problem for all those teams. The AFC

1314
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: is loaded, and the two time defending champs are on

1315
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: that side of the Ledgers, So we will see what

1316
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: happens in meantime. Good spot for us to take a

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Speaker 1: break for the week. For the day, We're back with you,

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Speaker 1: of course on Thursday for the Cheat Sheep. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to check that out, and again thanks to Emory Hunt,

1320
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: be sure to go check out his draft guide at

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Speaker 1: Football gameplan dot com. In meantime, now I'll do it

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Speaker 1: for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy,

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01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: safe and healthy, do good and live well. Enjoy the week.

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Speaker 1: Good luck with your at wide receiver rankings everybody, and

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Speaker 1: we will talk to you again real soon.

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Speaker 3: Wan, don't don't