WEBVTT - Biden Impeachment: Dems LYING When They Say "No Direct Evidence"

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome it as verdicts with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson

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<v Speaker 1>with you, a massive news day with impeachment and Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy announcing that the Republicans in the House are going

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<v Speaker 1>to move forward. We're going to do a very deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive into that explain everything that's happening and what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen in the days and weeks and months ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get to that center, there was also

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<v Speaker 1>some other shocking news, and that is at the House

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<v Speaker 1>was informed. Congress was informed on the anniversary of nine

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven that there was going to be a prisoner

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<v Speaker 1>swap with a RAN and oh, by the way, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to send them basically allow them to get their

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<v Speaker 1>hands on six billion dollars that they had in assets.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a terrible move in my opinion. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to get your take on this. It's shocking that's happened,

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<v Speaker 1>especially notifying Congress on the anniversary nine to eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's outrageous and it's dangerous. On September eleventh, I

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<v Speaker 2>was in New York City. I was at the fire

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<v Speaker 2>station that lost the most post firefighters at Ground zero,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen firefighters from the station. I was at never returned,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had the opportunity to speak at a memorial

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<v Speaker 2>and to thank the families that were grieving those heroes,

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<v Speaker 2>and I pointed out, you know, the word hero is

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<v Speaker 2>used cheaply a lot of times to refer to athletes,

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<v Speaker 2>to refer to musicians' hero doesn't apply to any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>The men who charged into burning buildings knowing they were

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<v Speaker 2>headed to certain death, they are heroes. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>really an extraordinary honor to give tribute to them and

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<v Speaker 2>to try to try to tell the story for young

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<v Speaker 2>people of what happened on September eleventh. While we're there, remembering,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden couldn't bother to show up. But to add

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<v Speaker 2>insult to injury, Joe Biden announces that he's given six

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars to the Ayatola, a radical Islamic theocratic who

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<v Speaker 2>regularly chance death to America and death to Israel. The

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<v Speaker 2>six billion dollars is in exchange for five Americans. On

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<v Speaker 2>top of that, there are another five Iranians that are

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<v Speaker 2>being released. At this point, they have not publicly said

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<v Speaker 2>who they are of what they've done. I'm sure it's bad,

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<v Speaker 2>because if it weren't bad, they would, they would have

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<v Speaker 2>told us already. There are lots of reasons why this

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong, one of which is this money, the six

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars will go directly to fund terrorism.

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<v Speaker 1>This money, Oh no, no, the Biden administration promised us

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<v Speaker 1>their words, this will only go for humanitarian issues. They

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<v Speaker 1>were saying that six billion dollars will never be used

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<v Speaker 1>for anything bad at all. What's even worse than that

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<v Speaker 1>is the lie is the Iranian president came out and

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<v Speaker 1>said that we will spend the money from the prisoner

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<v Speaker 1>swap how we want. In other words, screw you, Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>You're lying to the American people about it, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>do whatever the hell we want with the money.

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<v Speaker 2>The exact quote from the Iran's president was that the

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<v Speaker 2>funds will be used quote wherever we need it, and

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<v Speaker 2>it is a metaphysical certainty this money will be used

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<v Speaker 2>to fund terrorism. Why because Iran is the leading state

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<v Speaker 2>sponsor of terrorism in the world. That Americans will be murdered,

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<v Speaker 2>is Raelis will be murdered, and it's not just six

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars, because they're also refusing to enforce sanctions, which

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<v Speaker 2>collectively is tens of billions or even hundreds of billions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars to fund terrorism. This is part of a

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<v Speaker 2>secret nuclear deal. The Biden administration doesn't want to take

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<v Speaker 2>a nuclear deal to Congress because they know they can't

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<v Speaker 2>get it through Congress, so as they're doing it in secret.

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<v Speaker 2>And on top of that, this creates an incentive for

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<v Speaker 2>every tin pot dictator in the world to seize more Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>They're setting the going rate at one point two billion

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<v Speaker 2>per American hostage. More Americans will be taken hostage because

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<v Speaker 2>of this, and to do it on the anniversary of

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven is disgusting and it's dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>There was something else in here center that really shocked me.

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<v Speaker 1>In all of the most recent prisoner swaps that we've had,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew who we were trading and who they were

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<v Speaker 1>and what they had done, whether it was Britney Grinder

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<v Speaker 1>and Russia. We knew that we were trading the merchant

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<v Speaker 1>of death, whether when it was bo Bergdal, We knew

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<v Speaker 1>the people that we were trading, for example, in Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 1>and we knew their resume of terror, what they'd done.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't find anywhere, and I want to know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a member of Congress, have you been briefed on who

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<v Speaker 1>the five Iranians are that they're getting back, and what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell have they done?

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<v Speaker 3>So I have not.

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<v Speaker 2>I assumed that at some point we will be and

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<v Speaker 2>I also assume at some point the names and what

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<v Speaker 2>they did will be made public. I very much hope so.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is profoundly dangerous. When you funnel billions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars to theocratic, homicidal maniacs, you endanger lives. And it

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<v Speaker 2>is tragically a certainty that Americans will die because of

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<v Speaker 2>this decision from the Biden administration, and to do it

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<v Speaker 2>on the anniversary of nine to eleven shows really a

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<v Speaker 2>complete lack of awareness of the magnitude of the threat.

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<v Speaker 1>To be clear, and I think this goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven. Iran killed more or help kill more

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<v Speaker 1>and dismember more Americans with roadside bombs and giving safe

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<v Speaker 1>haymn to terras after we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan than

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<v Speaker 1>any other country in the Middle.

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<v Speaker 3>East by far, not even close, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We just gave them money that they can do, in

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<v Speaker 1>their words, whatever they.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to do with it, six billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any way that Congress can stop this or

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<v Speaker 1>is this a straight up executive decision and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm going to fight for Congress to stop it.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's be clear, Chuck Schumer and the Democrats will

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<v Speaker 2>stand with Biden and stand with Iran against America and

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<v Speaker 2>against our Israeli allies.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to keep trying to get answers to these questions, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll keep you updated on. I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with, obviously, the massive story of the day that

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<v Speaker 1>is taking the headlines, and that's exactly when we wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure you knew what was going on with

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<v Speaker 1>the RAN, and that is with impeachment. We are moving

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<v Speaker 1>forward with impeachment. The House side, Ken McCarthy has come

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<v Speaker 1>out announcing that this podcast started with the first impeachment.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever imagine Center that we would be sitting

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<v Speaker 1>here on this podcast now looking like we're going into

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<v Speaker 1>a third impeachment when you started this show originally.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is hard to believe. It's not impeachment number one,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not impeachment number two. It's impeachment number three of

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<v Speaker 2>the president, mind you, not not even impeachment of Aljidro

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<v Speaker 2>majorcas non impeachment of Merrick Garland. It is the House

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<v Speaker 2>has formally opened its impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden, and

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<v Speaker 2>what I want to do in this podcast is really

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<v Speaker 2>do a deep dive into what that means and where

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<v Speaker 2>things stand, because it's a big deal. This announcement is

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<v Speaker 2>a big, big deal. It is consequential, and it's important

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<v Speaker 2>listeners to verdict. You know already the details of what's happening,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's worth breaking down the arguments so that you

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<v Speaker 2>understand it because I guarantee you tomorrow at work, tomorrow

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<v Speaker 2>at school, people are going to be asking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Family members are going to be asking about it, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to want to know.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the best ways to assess just the magnitude

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<v Speaker 2>the mountain of evidence that has come out and listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been calling for the House to open impeachment inquiries

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<v Speaker 2>for months.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the.

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<v Speaker 2>Evidence long ago cleared that threshold. But they've finally done it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's worth reviewing the bidding. In terms of Joe Biden's explanations,

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<v Speaker 2>Explanation number one that he made on the campaign trail

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<v Speaker 2>repeatedly that he made his president repeatedly is he said

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<v Speaker 2>he had never discussed, not even once discussed with unter

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's overseas business dealings. That was explanation number one. There

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<v Speaker 2>was a minor problem. It was a flat out, bald

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<v Speaker 2>face lie, and it was demonstrably disproven, including by Devin

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<v Speaker 2>Archer saying some twenty times Joe would call in to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to Hunter's overseas business partners. So then explanation number

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<v Speaker 2>two was Joe Biden was not in business with his

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<v Speaker 2>son Hunter in his corrupt overseas deals. Now that's very

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<v Speaker 2>different from I never discussed it, but they realized they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't defend that, so it wasn't in business. So they've

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<v Speaker 2>run away from not in business anymore. That's no longer

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<v Speaker 2>defensible because it's clear the entire business was selling favors

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<v Speaker 2>from Daddy. So talking point number three, which you're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>multiple Democrats use word for word you're seeing the media

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<v Speaker 2>use word for word, is there is no direct evidence

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<v Speaker 2>of Joe Biden's involvement of Joe Biden's corruption. Now at

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<v Speaker 2>the outset, that throws Hunter overboard. I think the Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>have realized, all right, Hunter as crooked as the day

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<v Speaker 2>as long, we can't defend this guy, so Hunter to

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<v Speaker 2>heck with him. But there's no direct evidence of Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to break that down because that is false

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a lie, and it's every bit as false

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<v Speaker 2>as Biden never discussed it or wasn't in business with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's take the no direct evidence and explain why

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<v Speaker 2>it's wrong. Let me start by explaining what direct evidence is.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the kind of lawyer word that you see

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<v Speaker 2>people use that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not a lawyer, you're like, well, what does

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<v Speaker 1>that even mean?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So, in a court.

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<v Speaker 2>Of law, there are two types of evidence that are

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<v Speaker 2>typically relied on to prove a factual matter. Number one

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<v Speaker 2>is direct evidence. Number two is circumstantial evidence. Direct evidence

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<v Speaker 2>is evidence that goes directly to a factual matter in dispute.

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<v Speaker 2>Circumstantial evidence is based on the circumstances you can draw

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<v Speaker 2>inference that leads to the factual matter in dispute.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me give an ext If you go to bed

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<v Speaker 2>tonight and you look out the window and the street

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<v Speaker 2>is dry and clean, and you wake up in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning and you look out the window and the street

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<v Speaker 2>is covered in snow, that is circumstantial evidence that it

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<v Speaker 2>snowed last night. It's pretty damn good circumstantial evidence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's snow, but you were drawing the inference from seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the snow on the ground that it snowed last night. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if you bring in a witness who stayed up all night,

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<v Speaker 2>who said, ben, I saw it snow last night, that

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<v Speaker 2>would be direct evidence. The most common type of direct

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<v Speaker 2>evidence is eyewitness testimony saying I saw this happen. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>one of the lies right at the heart of the

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<v Speaker 2>no direct evidence is so what, it's not true. But

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<v Speaker 2>before I get to not true, so what? People are

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<v Speaker 2>literally convicted of crimes every day based on circumstantial evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>They are sentenced to jail every day based on circumstantial evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>So the modifier direct is how they're getting around the

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<v Speaker 2>mountain of evidence we've got. But I want to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you how the statement there is no direct evidence is

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<v Speaker 2>a lie. And anytime a Democrat says, at any time

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<v Speaker 2>the media says that, you know they're lying.

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<v Speaker 2>So, as I mentioned, there at least two significant pieces

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<v Speaker 2>of direct evidence of Joe Biden's involvement and corruption. Piece

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<v Speaker 2>number one, the heart of the allegations, again Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>is bribery that he solicited and received bribes from foreign oligarchs.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll recall, and we've talked about this before on verdict

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<v Speaker 2>that the essence of bribery is quid pro quo Latin

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<v Speaker 2>for this, for that, and for bribery, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>show the official action that was taken.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the quote, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Money or thing of value that was given, that's the quid,

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<v Speaker 2>and that the two were connected, that's the pro Well.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those elements, the official action, is conclusively proven

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<v Speaker 2>by Joe Biden in his on camera admission to the

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<v Speaker 2>Council of Foreign Relations, where he described how he flew

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<v Speaker 2>to Ukraine, he held a billion dollars of federal tax,

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<v Speaker 2>federal loan guarantees hostage and demanded that the Ukrainian government

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<v Speaker 2>fire Victor Schoken, who was the prosecutor who was prosecuting

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<v Speaker 2>the Ukrainian oligarch and Joe Biden. As we all know,

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<v Speaker 2>as we played on this show many times, says son

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<v Speaker 2>of a bitch. They fired it, and.

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<v Speaker 1>He was critic by the way because he was like

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<v Speaker 1>he was so prideful, and it was the arrogance of

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<v Speaker 1>that moment. It was like, couldn't help himself. It was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how powerful I was. I could go over

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<v Speaker 1>to Ukraine and tell them who to fire and I

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<v Speaker 1>could own them while it was happening. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>watch that video, when I see it, it actually makes

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<v Speaker 1>me angry because it was a glimpse into the abuse

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<v Speaker 1>of power that Joe Biden was willing to wield around

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<v Speaker 1>the world on a litany probably of issues. And now

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<v Speaker 1>we know why he was doing it. It was for

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<v Speaker 1>the money and for the Biden crime family.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right. But of the elements of bribery, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's confession on tape is direct evidence that he committed

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<v Speaker 2>one of the critical elements of bribery. Now we don't

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<v Speaker 2>yet have direct evidence of every element of the crime,

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<v Speaker 2>but we have direct evidence of one of the most critical,

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<v Speaker 2>critical aspects of the crime, which is the quote that

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden has admitted, and that is unequivocally direct evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's pretty damn compelling direct evidence. There's a second

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<v Speaker 2>very clear instance of direct evidence, and that is Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>Biden's what's app message to the Chinese Communist official, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to read it to you again, Hunter Biden

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<v Speaker 2>texted quote. I am sitting here with my father and

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<v Speaker 2>we would like to understand why the commitment made has

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<v Speaker 2>not been fulfilled. Tell the director I would like to

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<v Speaker 2>resolve this now before it gets out of hand, and

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<v Speaker 2>now means tonight and z if I get a call

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<v Speaker 2>or a text from anyone involved in this other than you,

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<v Speaker 2>Zang or the chairman, I will make certain that between

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<v Speaker 2>the man sitting next to me and every person he knows,

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<v Speaker 2>and my ability to forever hold a grudge, that you

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<v Speaker 2>will regret not following my direction. I am sitting here

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for the call with.

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<v Speaker 1>My father not to shake down.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>That is direct evidence. That is a written text sent

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<v Speaker 2>by Hunter Biden. That is direct evidence that he and

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<v Speaker 2>his father are shaking down a Chinese Communist official. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not circumstantial, it is direct evidence. Now it is possible

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<v Speaker 2>that direct evidence is false, just as if if Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>Biden came into court and testified my father and I

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<v Speaker 2>shook down a Chinese Communist official, he could be lying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he could, yeah, but I doubt it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can teach his credibility. You could say he's lying,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is direct evidence. Direct evidence doesn't necessarily mean

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<v Speaker 2>that it is true. Sometimes direct evidence is false. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's not only direct evidence. It's pretty damn compelling direct evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>So I promise you in the next week you will

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<v Speaker 2>see multiple Democrats and multiple yabbering puppets in the corporate

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<v Speaker 2>media say there's no direct evidence. You know, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>direct evidence. The AP will say the allegations of corruption

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<v Speaker 2>against Joe Biden, of which there is no direct evidence,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll state it as a fact, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>a lie. Every time they say it. They're lying. Because

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<v Speaker 2>those two are serious pieces of direct evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you about not only that, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>connect this to suspicious activity reports. Is this the type

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff that will come out in impeachment when they

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<v Speaker 1>go through it as saying, Hey, we can connect the

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<v Speaker 1>quid pro quote, we can connect these these audio recordings,

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<v Speaker 1>We can connect the present's words to these financial bank

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<v Speaker 1>records and all of the bank records that James comert

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. If you missed a podcast we did

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<v Speaker 1>with them, go back and listen to it, Jim Jordan,

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. They have so much evidence with the

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<v Speaker 1>specious activity reports and the cash going to the Biden crime

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<v Speaker 1>family members, right, we know direct payments, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>multiple Biden family members. Is that where this could be

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<v Speaker 1>so damning to this president, could put his presidency at risk?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me underscore if you didn't listen to our

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<v Speaker 2>two part series with James Comer, you ought to go

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<v Speaker 2>back and listen to it because we walk through at length.

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<v Speaker 2>Now everything you just listed is circumstantial evidence. And I

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<v Speaker 2>want to take a minute because there's a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>circumstantial evidence and all of the smarmy people on TV

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<v Speaker 2>who are saying no direct evidence, they're pretending like direct

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<v Speaker 2>evidence is the only kind of evidence that exists. So, Ben,

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<v Speaker 2>if there's a dead body and with multiple gunshot wounds, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how I'm always the bad guy in these scenarios.

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<v Speaker 1>If you notice this, like everybody, I'm always the bad

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<v Speaker 1>guy here, I'm ready for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep going next to the dead body. It appears that

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<v Speaker 2>the dead with his bloody finger scrawled in the ground.

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<v Speaker 3>Ferguson did it? Did it?

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<v Speaker 1>Ferguson did it?

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's not actually direct evidence. And let's say furthermore

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<v Speaker 2>that you're found at home covered in the man's blood,

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<v Speaker 2>with gunpowder covering your body and the murder weapon.

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<v Speaker 3>At your feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, none of that is direct evidence either. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, You're going.

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<v Speaker 3>Away for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need any more evidence that evidence bye bye, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I Circumstantial evidence convicts people every single day. So what

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<v Speaker 2>is the circumstantial evidence. Look with James Comber, he walked

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<v Speaker 2>through the suspicious activity reports over and over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>The massive number of suspicious activity reports, the more than

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<v Speaker 2>twenty shell companies. That is circumstantial evidence. As we talked

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<v Speaker 2>through with James Comber, you don't create shell companies unless

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<v Speaker 2>it is to hide the source of cash. That is

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<v Speaker 2>serious circumstance. The allegations in the FD ten twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>from a confidential human source that the FBI had previously

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<v Speaker 2>found reliable who says that the Ukrainian oligarch told him

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<v Speaker 2>that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden demanded five million each

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<v Speaker 2>in order for Joe to get the prosecutor fired. Now

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<v Speaker 2>that's not direct evidence because the confidential human source doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know it directly. He's repeating what he says that that

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<v Speaker 2>that the oligarch said, so that that is hearsay, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is circumstantial evidence and is significant the twenty plus

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars that the House of Representatives has already documented

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<v Speaker 2>that flowed into the Biden family to people, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>who by all appearances, have no connection to foreign countries.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like, hey, I need your bank count and

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<v Speaker 1>here's some.

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<v Speaker 3>Money, and it's it's it's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Must be nice. That's gotta be a fun day. Like

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't talked about that enough. Center the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you could just have the last name Biden and you

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<v Speaker 1>and randomly you get like a text from Hunter right

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<v Speaker 1>or from Joe's like handy Jaman account if I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to send you over one hundred thousand bucks, Like that's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be kind of cool if you're in that situation

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<v Speaker 1>where it's just like, hey, I'm a Biden. Now every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a while, this money just randomly shows up

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<v Speaker 1>in my bank account with a random LLC. Because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what they've been doing for years, if not decades.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, although it may not be all that cool

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<v Speaker 2>because remember Hunter Biden in a twenty nineteen text to

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<v Speaker 2>his daughter complains about how his father, Joe Biden, made

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<v Speaker 2>him give him quote half.

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<v Speaker 1>His salary, yeah, half everything.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Loo, Look this is that that likewise, all of

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<v Speaker 4>this piles to a mountain of evidence, both direct and circumstantial,

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<v Speaker 4>and that mountain of evidence is serious.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's something else, which is the cover up. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's go back to this hypothetical of the guy you

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<v Speaker 2>whacked and I don't know why you killed him, you eat.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure it was I'm sure it was God.

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<v Speaker 1>But we should at the end of the year just

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<v Speaker 1>come up with all the possible crimes and as examples

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<v Speaker 1>that I have committed in my and the last year

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<v Speaker 1>on verdict and just turn it into a best steff,

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<v Speaker 1>keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you're caught on film driving out on.

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<v Speaker 4>A bridge now and flinging the gun.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the bridge, over the bridge into the water, now, look,

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't prove if the gun has never recovered that

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<v Speaker 2>it's the murder weapon.

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<v Speaker 3>But if it's the night of the murder, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're doing it really urgently, it's pretty strong circumstantial

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<v Speaker 2>evidence that you are hiding evidence that that that demonstrates

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<v Speaker 2>your guilt, and in fact, you will see in a

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<v Speaker 2>court of law. If a defendant destroys evidence h a

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<v Speaker 2>court can instruct the jury to draw a negative inference

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<v Speaker 2>that that evidence would would have demonstrated would.

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<v Speaker 3>Have been bad for them.

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<v Speaker 2>In this instance, we know that Joe Biden had multiple

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<v Speaker 2>burner phones. We know that he had multiple fake emails,

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<v Speaker 2>up to five thy four hundred of them in the

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<v Speaker 2>National Archives. We know that he emailed Hunter Biden. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that he emailed Hunter Biden about Ukraine. And we

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<v Speaker 2>know also that two senior IRS career employees have come

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<v Speaker 2>forward as whistleblowers and have said the Biden administration engage

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<v Speaker 2>number one in line to Congress under oath of felony

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<v Speaker 2>YEP and number two in multiple instances of obstruction of justice.

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<v Speaker 2>And in particular it's worth focusing on what was the

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<v Speaker 2>obstruction of justice. Let's go back to the WhatsApp, to

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<v Speaker 2>the message that Hunter said. The IRS whistleblowers said they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to examine GPS data to determine well, when Hunter

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<v Speaker 2>sent that text, was Daddy sitting next to him? There's

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<v Speaker 2>an answer, it's either yes or no. If it's yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that is not direct evidence that Hunter was telling the truth,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's pretty strong circumstantial evidence, and according to the

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<v Speaker 2>IRS whistleblowers, the Biden DOJ said no, no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot examine the GPS locations. They likewise said no,

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot ask anything about Joe. The fact that the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden Department of Justice is willing to commit felonies allegedly,

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<v Speaker 2>according to the whistleblowers, yeah, in order to prevent investigation

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<v Speaker 2>into Joe's involvement is powerful evidence of Joe's.

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<v Speaker 3>Significant involvement.

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<v Speaker 2>Because just like throwing the gun off the bridge, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't do it if you didn't do anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let me ask you this question about this

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<v Speaker 1>impeachment compared to the Trump impeachment, the first impeachment, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you were the lawyer for Trump, then it was

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<v Speaker 1>more about defending yourself. A friend of mine, Jay Seque,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, helped with that first impeachment, defended the president.

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<v Speaker 1>It was more about a vigorous defense of the absurdity

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<v Speaker 1>of what they were charging Donald Trump with. This is

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<v Speaker 1>obviously completely different than that. This is a one point

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<v Speaker 1>eighty from that. We knew that Russian collusion was crap.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew it was crap, they knew how to defend it.

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<v Speaker 1>And they defended him. I think pretty well this impeachment,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were defending Joe Biden from a legal standpoint,

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<v Speaker 1>what are your biggest concerns if you're having to meet

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<v Speaker 1>with Joe Biden, and what are your biggest concerns for

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<v Speaker 1>his presidency if you're meeting with Joe Biden from a

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<v Speaker 1>legal standpoint that could come out in this impeachment that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe has never been you know, has come out either

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<v Speaker 1>a before you haven't had to at least answer questions for.

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<v Speaker 2>Your biggest concern is all the evidence against you, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the direct evidence, the evidence that you basically admitted to

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<v Speaker 2>one of the elements of bribery, the evidence the text

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<v Speaker 2>message that your son has been caught shaking down Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>communists for millions of dollars and explicitly threatening that you're

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<v Speaker 2>the one who would engage in retaliation. That has tied

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<v Speaker 2>you into it. That direct evidence is certainly troubling, but

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<v Speaker 2>all the circumstantial evidence which would trouble you as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, here's what the Biden White House is going

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<v Speaker 2>to do. They're going to count on the corporate media

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<v Speaker 2>to ignore that. They're going to count on the corporate

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<v Speaker 2>media to echo their talking points.

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<v Speaker 1>And not cover it like they did the Trump impeachment.

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<v Speaker 2>It's to completely ignore it and refuse to address the facts.

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<v Speaker 2>And every day you will see a night and day difference,

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<v Speaker 2>There is a world of difference. And we've discussed at

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<v Speaker 1>you also in impeachment real quick about witnesses. Are there

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<v Speaker 1>people that can now be called that may have to

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<v Speaker 1>answer for their involvement, whether it's those the DOJ, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's Hunter Biden, whether it's other Biden family members. Walk

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<v Speaker 1>us through how impeachment works when it comes to witnesses.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Merrick Garland is expected to testify before the House Judiciary

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<v Speaker 2>Committee in the coming days, and he will certainly face

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<v Speaker 2>significant questions about the allegations that he personally lied under

0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 2>oath and committed a felony. Now, I assume he'll dodge

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 2>all of them and defiantly and arrogantly refuse to engage

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>in the substance. I also assume he will get questions

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.479
<v Speaker 2>about the allegations of obstruction of justice, and I expect

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<v Speaker 2>Merrick Garland to not be remotely forthcoming. I think at

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<v Speaker 2>some point you will see David Weiss called before Congress

0:29:30.280 --> 0:29:33.520
<v Speaker 2>to testify. David Weiss has been directly implicated in the

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 2>obstruction of justice, which is I believe why Merrick Garland

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 2>named him the quote special counsel. Because Garland and the

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Biden DOJ knew they could count on Weiss to protect

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 2>the big guy, and that's their most important objective. We've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how Schwerin, who was the kind of money

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<v Speaker 2>guy and fixer for Biden is a very likely witness

0:29:53.200 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 2>and could be a very damning witness, and I would

0:29:55.120 --> 0:30:00.479
<v Speaker 2>anticipate seeing him come. And then we may well assume

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Hunter Biden, if he's called to testify, will stonewall at

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:06.960
<v Speaker 2>this point the legal.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that look like when you say stonewall? Is

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it a tactic or are you saying he just won't

0:30:11.040 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>answer questions?

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<v Speaker 3>My assumption is will plead the fifth.

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So he just come in say I plead the

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>fifth and that's the end of it.

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 2>I assume that's the case, given the multiple felonies and

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>the fact that he even Dad's White House seems to

0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 2>be running away from him. I would be shocked if

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter Biden said anything else other than on the advice

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 2>of counsel, I plead the fifth. I will say one

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 2>other thing, which is this Biden impeachment is demonstrating the

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 2>utter and complete hypocrisy of congressional Democrats. Let me read

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:49.800
<v Speaker 2>what Chuck Schumer said this week, right after the House

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<v Speaker 2>announced it's impeachment. Schumer said, quote, I think the impeachment

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 2>inquiry is absurd. The American people want us to do

0:30:57.680 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 2>something that will make their lives better not go off

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>on these chases witch hunts. So Schumer is literally using

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Trump's language about witch hunts and just repeating word for

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 2>word what the defense was. Now, look, I think the

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Biden impeachments of Trump were witch hunts. Ironically, this is not.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>This is serious evidence that Congress would be derelict if

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<v Speaker 2>it didn't investigate. Here, by the way, is a quote

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<v Speaker 2>from from Democrat Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what banana dictatorships do is arrest political opponents

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 2>without any evidence. Now that's screamingly funny. Yeah, given that

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 2>the Democrats have arrested their political opponent like a banana republic.

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:54.240
<v Speaker 2>But part of the reasons Democrats can be such total

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 2>hypocrites is they know the corporate media will never call

0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 2>them out on it. That the corporate media will nod

0:31:59.800 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>say yes, yes, but at a republic terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible,

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>no direct evidence, no direct evidence. And if you take

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 2>nothing else from this podcast today, remember every time they

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>say the words no direct evidence, they're.

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Lying one other thing about this. And this is where

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>people say, Okay, we have this thing, it happens. Let's

0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:23.239
<v Speaker 1>say it is a big deal. Let's say there are

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>some some some you know minds that the Democrats step on,

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the White House steps on, we still don't have the

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>votes and the Senate to do anything about it. Right,

0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what they're gonna That's what people that are cynical

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and frustrated are gonna say about this. So how should

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 1>we be looking at this impeachment?

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Is this?

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Should? Should?

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Should?

0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 1>Should? People that are listening to look at it from

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>a standpoint of, Hey, we're getting the truth out there

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>in a very big way about Joe Biden before he's

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<v Speaker 1>running for reelection and that can be extremely powerful and

0:32:51.400 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and in other words, judgment day may be election day.

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<v Speaker 1>Or should we look at it and be frustrated and

0:32:57.720 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>cynical because like, well, even if we nail this thing

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 1>in the House, it ain't going to pass the Senate.

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>So he's not going to be impeached and lose his

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 1>job over this? What mindset? What hatch to listeners put on?

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>So a little bit of both, listen, The cynicism is

0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 2>not misplaced. Senate Democrats and House Democrats do not care

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:17.600
<v Speaker 2>what evidence there is of Joe Biden being corruptive, is

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 2>soliciting and receiving bribes from falling foreign oligarchs. They don't care.

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>Partisan politics trumps everything. To use my hypothetical, if the

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<v Speaker 2>dead guy had scrawled in blood Ferguson did it.

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<v Speaker 3>With Joe Biden.

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Joe Biden walked out covered in his blood,

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:39.720
<v Speaker 2>Democrats would be like nothing to see here.

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<v Speaker 1>Remind people what the makeup of the Senate right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Makeup of the Senate is fifty one Democrats, forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>republic All.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we've heard about some of you maybe becoming independent.

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>We've heard, you know, wishy washy things about Joe Manchin

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<v Speaker 1>for example. Is there any scenario where the evidence could

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<v Speaker 1>be so damning on the House side that you could

0:33:56.360 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 1>you could flip two different people's people in the Senate?

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't matter if you flip two, because you need

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>two thirds, you need sixty seven.

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 3>There you go, and right now we have zero.

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Right now we have zero Democrats who, to the best

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<v Speaker 2>of my knowledge, I'm not aware of a single Democrat

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:14.399
<v Speaker 2>who's even asked a skeptical question, who has even said, well,

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, if Biden did, in fact solicit and receive

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:20.440
<v Speaker 2>bribes from foreign nationals, that would be a problem. No,

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Democrat has even said that. And you contrast this to

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Richard Nixon. Listen, the reason Richard Nixon resigned in disgrace

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:29.920
<v Speaker 2>is Republicans turned on him. They turned on him when

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:35.959
<v Speaker 2>the evidence got over. And I don't believe Democrats would ever, ever,

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:39.680
<v Speaker 2>ever turn on Biden because partisanship matters more than anything.

0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 2>But be that as it may, that does not mean

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 2>that impeachment is a waste of time, because it is

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 2>the only way to put these facts before the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>In a sane and normal world, the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 2>would investigate and prosecute him. We'd get a special counsel

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<v Speaker 2>who was independent, who was consistent with the DOJ rules,

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<v Speaker 2>was not an employee of DJ, and actually would investigate

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:09.319
<v Speaker 2>in conveni grand jury and potentially prosecute these crimes. The

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.400
<v Speaker 2>Biden DOJ won't do that because it's the most partisan

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<v Speaker 2>and political DJ we've ever seen. But putting these facts

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<v Speaker 2>before the American people is valuable, nonetheless. But to be clear,

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<v Speaker 2>a critical part of that is what we're doing right

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<v Speaker 1>always worry because you've noticed this in the polls. Biden

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<v Speaker 1>poll numbers right now are not good, and the media

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be telling more the truth about how bad

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<v Speaker 1>They even had one of their commentators and said, I

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<v Speaker 1>underestimated Joe Biden's involvement with Hunter Biden and the Biden

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<v Speaker 1>family businesses. Is there a concern that if the Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>play this too strong and don't take their time toly

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<v Speaker 1>at the evidence, this could backfire in the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>And again I'm asking from a political standpoint that every

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<v Speaker 1>time the Democrats indict Donald Trump, what happens, Republicans stand

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<v Speaker 1>behind Donald Trump even more, they say, send him money,

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<v Speaker 1>they support him, His poll numbers go up. Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a concern that if Republicans don't nail this the right way,

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<v Speaker 1>that this actually galvanizes people that maybe are wherehy washy

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<v Speaker 1>on Biden and then it actually helps him stand up

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<v Speaker 1>better than he is right now, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Look that that is conceivable. And there's no doubt that

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<v Speaker 2>the multiple indictments against Trump have added a lot of points,

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<v Speaker 2>at least ten points to his numbers in the primary

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<v Speaker 2>because Republicans have understandably gotten pissed off that it's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>a political persecution. So that counsels that the Republicans, the

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<v Speaker 2>Republicans in the House need to proceed carefully. They need

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<v Speaker 2>to be facts based, they need to be evidence based.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to not have it appear political. Now in

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<v Speaker 2>today's world, there will be people who naturally assume it's political.

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<v Speaker 2>But but that that that is certainly a vulnerability to

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<v Speaker 2>be aware of. Another vulnerability is at some point the

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats and or the media might decide that Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 2>is two wounded and jettison him and try to parachute

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<v Speaker 2>someone else in I think that remains a very real risk.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about that a lot more on

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast, but not on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was an interesting article this week that mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>five other names that came out all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>off Joe Biden, don't run. Who's is gonna be? This

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<v Speaker 1>is how this podcast started. You want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>full circle, but now it's times three. Senator. We're going

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