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Speaker 1: Welcome it as verdicts with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson

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Speaker 1: with you, a massive news day with impeachment and Kevin

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Speaker 1: McCarthy announcing that the Republicans in the House are going

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Speaker 1: to move forward. We're going to do a very deep

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Speaker 1: dive into that explain everything that's happening and what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen in the days and weeks and months ahead.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that center, there was also

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Speaker 1: some other shocking news, and that is at the House

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Speaker 1: was informed. Congress was informed on the anniversary of nine

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Speaker 1: to eleven that there was going to be a prisoner

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Speaker 1: swap with a RAN and oh, by the way, we're

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Speaker 1: going to send them basically allow them to get their

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Speaker 1: hands on six billion dollars that they had in assets.

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Speaker 1: This is a terrible move in my opinion. I want

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Speaker 1: to get your take on this. It's shocking that's happened,

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Speaker 1: especially notifying Congress on the anniversary nine to eleven.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's outrageous and it's dangerous. On September eleventh, I

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Speaker 2: was in New York City. I was at the fire

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Speaker 2: station that lost the most post firefighters at Ground zero,

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Speaker 2: fifteen firefighters from the station. I was at never returned,

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Speaker 2: and I had the opportunity to speak at a memorial

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Speaker 2: and to thank the families that were grieving those heroes,

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Speaker 2: and I pointed out, you know, the word hero is

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Speaker 2: used cheaply a lot of times to refer to athletes,

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Speaker 2: to refer to musicians' hero doesn't apply to any of them.

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Speaker 2: The men who charged into burning buildings knowing they were

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Speaker 2: headed to certain death, they are heroes. And it was

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Speaker 2: really an extraordinary honor to give tribute to them and

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Speaker 2: to try to try to tell the story for young

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Speaker 2: people of what happened on September eleventh. While we're there, remembering,

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden couldn't bother to show up. But to add

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Speaker 2: insult to injury, Joe Biden announces that he's given six

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Speaker 2: billion dollars to the Ayatola, a radical Islamic theocratic who

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Speaker 2: regularly chance death to America and death to Israel. The

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Speaker 2: six billion dollars is in exchange for five Americans. On

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Speaker 2: top of that, there are another five Iranians that are

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Speaker 2: being released. At this point, they have not publicly said

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Speaker 2: who they are of what they've done. I'm sure it's bad,

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Speaker 2: because if it weren't bad, they would, they would have

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Speaker 2: told us already. There are lots of reasons why this

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Speaker 2: is wrong, one of which is this money, the six

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Speaker 2: billion dollars will go directly to fund terrorism.

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Speaker 1: This money, Oh no, no, the Biden administration promised us

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Speaker 1: their words, this will only go for humanitarian issues. They

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Speaker 1: were saying that six billion dollars will never be used

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Speaker 1: for anything bad at all. What's even worse than that

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Speaker 1: is the lie is the Iranian president came out and

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Speaker 1: said that we will spend the money from the prisoner

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Speaker 1: swap how we want. In other words, screw you, Biden.

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Speaker 1: You're lying to the American people about it, and we'll

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Speaker 1: do whatever the hell we want with the money.

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Speaker 2: The exact quote from the Iran's president was that the

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Speaker 2: funds will be used quote wherever we need it, and

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Speaker 2: it is a metaphysical certainty this money will be used

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Speaker 2: to fund terrorism. Why because Iran is the leading state

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Speaker 2: sponsor of terrorism in the world. That Americans will be murdered,

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Speaker 2: is Raelis will be murdered, and it's not just six

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Speaker 2: billion dollars, because they're also refusing to enforce sanctions, which

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Speaker 2: collectively is tens of billions or even hundreds of billions

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Speaker 2: of dollars to fund terrorism. This is part of a

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Speaker 2: secret nuclear deal. The Biden administration doesn't want to take

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Speaker 2: get it through Congress, so as they're doing it in secret.

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Speaker 2: And on top of that, this creates an incentive for

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Speaker 2: every tin pot dictator in the world to seize more Americans.

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Speaker 2: They're setting the going rate at one point two billion

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Speaker 2: of this, and to do it on the anniversary of

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Speaker 2: nine to eleven is disgusting and it's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: There was something else in here center that really shocked me.

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Speaker 1: In all of the most recent prisoner swaps that we've had,

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Speaker 1: we knew who we were trading and who they were

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Speaker 1: and what they had done, whether it was Britney Grinder

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Speaker 1: the people that we were trading, for example, in Afghanistan,

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Speaker 1: and we knew their resume of terror, what they'd done.

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Speaker 1: I can't find anywhere, and I want to know, as

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Speaker 1: the five Iranians are that they're getting back, and what

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Speaker 1: the hell have they done?

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Speaker 3: So I have not.

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Speaker 2: I assumed that at some point we will be and

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Speaker 2: I also assume at some point the names and what

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Speaker 2: But this is profoundly dangerous. When you funnel billions of

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Speaker 2: is tragically a certainty that Americans will die because of

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Speaker 2: this decision from the Biden administration, and to do it

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Speaker 2: on the anniversary of nine to eleven shows really a

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Speaker 2: complete lack of awareness of the magnitude of the threat.

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Speaker 1: To be clear, and I think this goes back to

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Speaker 1: nine to eleven. Iran killed more or help kill more

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Speaker 1: haymn to terras after we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan than

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Speaker 3: East by far, not even close, and.

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Speaker 1: We just gave them money that they can do, in

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Speaker 1: their words, whatever they.

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Speaker 3: Want to do with it, six billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: Is there any way that Congress can stop this or

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Speaker 1: is this a straight up executive decision and that's it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to fight for Congress to stop it.

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Speaker 2: But let's be clear, Chuck Schumer and the Democrats will

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Speaker 2: stand with Biden and stand with Iran against America and

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Speaker 2: against our Israeli allies.

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Speaker 1: We're going to keep trying to get answers to these questions, obviously,

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Speaker 1: and we'll keep you updated on. I do want to

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Speaker 1: to make sure you knew what was going on with

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Speaker 1: the RAN, and that is with impeachment. We are moving

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Speaker 1: forward with impeachment. The House side, Ken McCarthy has come

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Speaker 1: out announcing that this podcast started with the first impeachment.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever imagine Center that we would be sitting

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Speaker 1: here on this podcast now looking like we're going into

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Speaker 1: a third impeachment when you started this show originally.

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Speaker 2: It really is hard to believe. It's not impeachment number one,

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Speaker 2: it's not impeachment number two. It's impeachment number three of

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Speaker 2: the president, mind you, not not even impeachment of Aljidro

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Speaker 2: has formally opened its impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden, and

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Speaker 2: what I want to do in this podcast is really

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Speaker 2: do a deep dive into what that means and where

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Speaker 2: things stand, because it's a big deal. This announcement is

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Speaker 2: a big, big deal. It is consequential, and it's important

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Speaker 2: but it's worth breaking down the arguments so that you

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: One of the best ways to assess just the magnitude

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Speaker 2: the mountain of evidence that has come out and listen,

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Speaker 2: I've been calling for the House to open impeachment inquiries

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Speaker 2: for months.

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Speaker 2: Evidence long ago cleared that threshold. But they've finally done it.

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Speaker 2: It's worth reviewing the bidding. In terms of Joe Biden's explanations,

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Speaker 2: Explanation number one that he made on the campaign trail

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Speaker 2: repeatedly that he made his president repeatedly is he said

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Speaker 2: he had never discussed, not even once discussed with unter

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Speaker 2: Biden's overseas business dealings. That was explanation number one. There

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Speaker 2: was a minor problem. It was a flat out, bald

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Speaker 2: face lie, and it was demonstrably disproven, including by Devin

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Speaker 2: Archer saying some twenty times Joe would call in to

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Speaker 2: talk to Hunter's overseas business partners. So then explanation number

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Speaker 2: two was Joe Biden was not in business with his

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Speaker 2: son Hunter in his corrupt overseas deals. Now that's very

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Speaker 2: different from I never discussed it, but they realized they

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Speaker 2: couldn't defend that, so it wasn't in business. So they've

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Speaker 2: run away from not in business anymore. That's no longer

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Speaker 2: defensible because it's clear the entire business was selling favors

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Speaker 2: from Daddy. So talking point number three, which you're seeing

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Speaker 2: multiple Democrats use word for word you're seeing the media

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Speaker 2: use word for word, is there is no direct evidence

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Speaker 2: of Joe Biden's involvement of Joe Biden's corruption. Now at

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Speaker 2: the outset, that throws Hunter overboard. I think the Democrats

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Speaker 2: have realized, all right, Hunter as crooked as the day

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Speaker 2: as long, we can't defend this guy, so Hunter to

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Speaker 2: heck with him. But there's no direct evidence of Joe.

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Speaker 2: I want to break that down because that is false

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Speaker 2: and it's a lie, and it's every bit as false

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Speaker 2: as Biden never discussed it or wasn't in business with it.

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Speaker 2: But let's take the no direct evidence and explain why

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Speaker 2: it's wrong. Let me start by explaining what direct evidence is.

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Speaker 2: So that's the kind of lawyer word that you see

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Speaker 2: people use that.

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Speaker 1: If you're not a lawyer, you're like, well, what does

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Speaker 3: Right, So, in a court.

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Speaker 2: Of law, there are two types of evidence that are

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Speaker 2: typically relied on to prove a factual matter. Number one

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Speaker 2: is direct evidence. Number two is circumstantial evidence. Direct evidence

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Speaker 2: is evidence that goes directly to a factual matter in dispute.

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Speaker 2: Circumstantial evidence is based on the circumstances you can draw

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Speaker 3: All right, what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: Let me give an ext If you go to bed

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Speaker 2: is covered in snow, that is circumstantial evidence that it

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Speaker 2: snowed last night. It's pretty damn good circumstantial evidence. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's snow, but you were drawing the inference from seeing

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Speaker 2: would be direct evidence. The most common type of direct

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Speaker 2: So the modifier direct is how they're getting around the

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Speaker 2: mountain of evidence we've got. But I want to tell

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Speaker 2: you how the statement there is no direct evidence is

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Speaker 2: So, as I mentioned, there at least two significant pieces

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Speaker 2: number one, the heart of the allegations, again Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: that the essence of bribery is quid pro quo Latin

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Speaker 3: That's the quote, the.

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Speaker 2: Money or thing of value that was given, that's the quid,

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Speaker 2: One of those elements, the official action, is conclusively proven

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Speaker 2: to Ukraine, he held a billion dollars of federal tax,

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Speaker 2: the Ukrainian oligarch and Joe Biden. As we all know,

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Speaker 1: He was critic by the way because he was like

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Speaker 2: That's exactly right. But of the elements of bribery, Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden's confession on tape is direct evidence that he committed

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Speaker 2: one of the critical elements of bribery. Now we don't

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Speaker 2: and it's pretty damn compelling direct evidence. There's a second

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Speaker 1: My father not to shake down.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: That is direct evidence. That is a written text sent

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Speaker 2: not circumstantial, it is direct evidence. Now it is possible

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he could, yeah, but I doubt it.

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Speaker 2: You can teach his credibility. You could say he's lying,

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you about not only that, but let's

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yes.

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Speaker 2: And let me underscore if you didn't listen to our

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Speaker 2: Now everything you just listed is circumstantial evidence. And I

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Speaker 2: if there's a dead body and with multiple gunshot wounds, and.

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Speaker 1: I love how I'm always the bad guy in these scenarios.

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Speaker 1: If you notice this, like everybody, I'm always the bad

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Speaker 2: Keep going next to the dead body. It appears that

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Speaker 3: Ferguson did it? Did it?

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Speaker 2: Now that's not actually direct evidence. And let's say furthermore

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Speaker 3: At your feet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, none of that is direct evidence either. And you

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Speaker 3: Away for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 2: I don't need any more evidence that evidence bye bye, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I Circumstantial evidence convicts people every single day. So what

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Speaker 2: twenty shell companies. That is circumstantial evidence. As we talked

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Speaker 2: serious circumstance. The allegations in the FD ten twenty three

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Speaker 2: that's not direct evidence because the confidential human source doesn't

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Speaker 1: It's just like, hey, I need your bank count and

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Speaker 3: Money, and it's it's it's it.

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Speaker 1: Must be nice. That's gotta be a fun day. Like

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Speaker 1: we haven't talked about that enough. Center the fact that

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Speaker 1: gotta be kind of cool if you're in that situation

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, although it may not be all that cool

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Loo, Look this is that that likewise, all of

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Speaker 2: But there's something else, which is the cover up. So

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure it was I'm sure it was God.

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Speaker 1: But we should at the end of the year just

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Speaker 2: So if you're caught on film driving out on.

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Speaker 2: In this instance, we know that Joe Biden had multiple

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Speaker 2: the message that Hunter said. The IRS whistleblowers said they

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Speaker 2: Because just like throwing the gun off the bridge, you

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Speaker 1: It was more about a vigorous defense of the absurdity

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Speaker 1: obviously completely different than that. This is a one point

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Speaker 1: eighty from that. We knew that Russian collusion was crap.

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Speaker 1: They knew it was crap, they knew how to defend it.

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Speaker 1: And they defended him. I think pretty well this impeachment,

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Speaker 1: if you were defending Joe Biden from a legal standpoint,

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Speaker 1: what are your biggest concerns if you're having to meet

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Speaker 1: maybe has never been you know, has come out either

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Speaker 2: Your biggest concern is all the evidence against you, uh,

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Speaker 2: the direct evidence, the evidence that you basically admitted to

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Speaker 2: message that your son has been caught shaking down Chinese

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Speaker 2: the one who would engage in retaliation. That has tied

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Speaker 2: you into it. That direct evidence is certainly troubling, but

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Speaker 2: all the circumstantial evidence which would trouble you as well.

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Speaker 2: And look, here's what the Biden White House is going

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Speaker 2: to ignore that. They're going to count on the corporate

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Speaker 2: media to echo their talking points.

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Speaker 1: And not cover it like they did the Trump impeachment.

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Speaker 2: It's to completely ignore it and refuse to address the facts.

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Speaker 2: And every day you will see a night and day difference,

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Speaker 2: not just between the Joe Biden impeachment and the Trump impeachments,

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Speaker 2: There is a world of difference. And we've discussed at

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Speaker 1: you also in impeachment real quick about witnesses. Are there

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Speaker 1: people that can now be called that may have to

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Speaker 1: us through how impeachment works when it comes to witnesses.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: Merrick Garland is expected to testify before the House Judiciary

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Speaker 2: Committee in the coming days, and he will certainly face

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Speaker 2: significant questions about the allegations that he personally lied under

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Speaker 2: oath and committed a felony. Now, I assume he'll dodge

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Speaker 2: all of them and defiantly and arrogantly refuse to engage

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Speaker 2: in the substance. I also assume he will get questions

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Speaker 2: about the allegations of obstruction of justice, and I expect

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Speaker 2: Merrick Garland to not be remotely forthcoming. I think at

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Speaker 2: some point you will see David Weiss called before Congress

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Speaker 2: to testify. David Weiss has been directly implicated in the

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Speaker 2: obstruction of justice, which is I believe why Merrick Garland

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Speaker 2: named him the quote special counsel. Because Garland and the

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Speaker 2: Biden DOJ knew they could count on Weiss to protect

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Speaker 2: the big guy, and that's their most important objective. We've

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Speaker 2: talked about how Schwerin, who was the kind of money

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Speaker 2: guy and fixer for Biden is a very likely witness

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Speaker 2: and could be a very damning witness, and I would

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Speaker 2: anticipate seeing him come. And then we may well assume

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden, if he's called to testify, will stonewall at

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Speaker 2: this point the legal.

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Speaker 1: What does that look like when you say stonewall? Is

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Speaker 1: it a tactic or are you saying he just won't

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Speaker 1: answer questions?

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Speaker 3: My assumption is will plead the fifth.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So he just come in say I plead the

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Speaker 1: fifth and that's the end of it.

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Speaker 2: I assume that's the case, given the multiple felonies and

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Speaker 2: the fact that he even Dad's White House seems to

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Speaker 2: be running away from him. I would be shocked if

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden said anything else other than on the advice

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Speaker 2: of counsel, I plead the fifth. I will say one

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Speaker 2: other thing, which is this Biden impeachment is demonstrating the

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Speaker 2: utter and complete hypocrisy of congressional Democrats. Let me read

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Speaker 2: what Chuck Schumer said this week, right after the House

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Speaker 2: announced it's impeachment. Schumer said, quote, I think the impeachment

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Speaker 2: inquiry is absurd. The American people want us to do

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Speaker 2: something that will make their lives better not go off

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Speaker 2: on these chases witch hunts. So Schumer is literally using

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Speaker 2: Trump's language about witch hunts and just repeating word for

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Speaker 2: word what the defense was. Now, look, I think the

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Speaker 2: Biden impeachments of Trump were witch hunts. Ironically, this is not.

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Speaker 2: This is serious evidence that Congress would be derelict if

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Speaker 2: it didn't investigate. Here, by the way, is a quote

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Speaker 2: from from Democrat Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut.

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Speaker 3: Quote.

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Speaker 2: This is what banana dictatorships do is arrest political opponents

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Speaker 2: without any evidence. Now that's screamingly funny. Yeah, given that

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Speaker 2: the Democrats have arrested their political opponent like a banana republic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But part of the reasons Democrats can be such total

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Speaker 2: hypocrites is they know the corporate media will never call

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Speaker 2: them out on it. That the corporate media will nod

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Speaker 2: say yes, yes, but at a republic terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible,

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Speaker 2: no direct evidence, no direct evidence. And if you take

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Speaker 2: nothing else from this podcast today, remember every time they

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Speaker 2: say the words no direct evidence, they're.

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Speaker 1: Lying one other thing about this. And this is where

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Speaker 1: people say, Okay, we have this thing, it happens. Let's

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Speaker 1: say it is a big deal. Let's say there are

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Speaker 1: some some some you know minds that the Democrats step on,

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Speaker 1: the White House steps on, we still don't have the

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Speaker 1: votes and the Senate to do anything about it. Right,

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Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna That's what people that are cynical

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Speaker 1: and frustrated are gonna say about this. So how should

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Speaker 1: we be looking at this impeachment?

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Speaker 3: Is this?

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Speaker 1: Should? Should?

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Speaker 3: Should?

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Speaker 1: Should? People that are listening to look at it from

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Speaker 1: a standpoint of, Hey, we're getting the truth out there

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Speaker 1: in a very big way about Joe Biden before he's

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Speaker 1: running for reelection and that can be extremely powerful and

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Speaker 1: and in other words, judgment day may be election day.

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Speaker 1: Or should we look at it and be frustrated and

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Speaker 1: cynical because like, well, even if we nail this thing

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Speaker 1: in the House, it ain't going to pass the Senate.

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Speaker 1: So he's not going to be impeached and lose his

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Speaker 1: job over this? What mindset? What hatch to listeners put on?

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Speaker 2: So a little bit of both, listen, The cynicism is

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Speaker 2: not misplaced. Senate Democrats and House Democrats do not care

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Speaker 2: what evidence there is of Joe Biden being corruptive, is

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Speaker 2: soliciting and receiving bribes from falling foreign oligarchs. They don't care.

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Speaker 2: Partisan politics trumps everything. To use my hypothetical, if the

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Speaker 2: dead guy had scrawled in blood Ferguson did it.

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Speaker 3: With Joe Biden.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Joe Biden walked out covered in his blood,

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Speaker 2: Democrats would be like nothing to see here.

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Speaker 1: Remind people what the makeup of the Senate right now.

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Speaker 2: Makeup of the Senate is fifty one Democrats, forty nine

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Speaker 2: republic All.

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Speaker 1: Right, we've heard about some of you maybe becoming independent.

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Speaker 1: We've heard, you know, wishy washy things about Joe Manchin

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Speaker 1: for example. Is there any scenario where the evidence could

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Speaker 1: be so damning on the House side that you could

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Speaker 1: you could flip two different people's people in the Senate?

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't matter if you flip two, because you need

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Speaker 2: two thirds, you need sixty seven.

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Speaker 3: There you go, and right now we have zero.

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Speaker 2: Right now we have zero Democrats who, to the best

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Speaker 2: of my knowledge, I'm not aware of a single Democrat

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Speaker 2: who's even asked a skeptical question, who has even said, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, if Biden did, in fact solicit and receive

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Speaker 2: bribes from foreign nationals, that would be a problem. No,

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Speaker 2: Democrat has even said that. And you contrast this to

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Speaker 2: Richard Nixon. Listen, the reason Richard Nixon resigned in disgrace

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Speaker 2: is Republicans turned on him. They turned on him when

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Speaker 2: the evidence got over. And I don't believe Democrats would ever, ever,

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Speaker 2: ever turn on Biden because partisanship matters more than anything.

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Speaker 2: But be that as it may, that does not mean

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Speaker 2: that impeachment is a waste of time, because it is

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Speaker 2: the only way to put these facts before the American people.

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Speaker 2: In a sane and normal world, the Department of Justice

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Speaker 2: would investigate and prosecute him. We'd get a special counsel

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Speaker 2: in conveni grand jury and potentially prosecute these crimes. The

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Speaker 2: and political DJ we've ever seen. But putting these facts

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Speaker 2: a critical part of that is what we're doing right

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Speaker 2: now on Verdict, which which is the million people who

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Speaker 1: Last question on this and that is the politics of

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Speaker 1: overplaying your hand. I said on my podcast today, I

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Speaker 1: always worry because you've noticed this in the polls. Biden

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Speaker 1: seems to be telling more the truth about how bad

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Speaker 1: say they do believe that Joe Biden was corrupt in

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Speaker 1: some manner with his son in the business dealings. That's

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Speaker 1: family businesses. Is there a concern that if the Republicans

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Speaker 1: play this too strong and don't take their time toly

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Speaker 1: at the evidence, this could backfire in the same way.

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Speaker 1: And again I'm asking from a political standpoint that every

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Speaker 1: time the Democrats indict Donald Trump, what happens, Republicans stand

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Speaker 1: behind Donald Trump even more, they say, send him money,

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Speaker 1: a concern that if Republicans don't nail this the right way,

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Speaker 1: that this actually galvanizes people that maybe are wherehy washy

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Speaker 2: Look that that is conceivable. And there's no doubt that

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Speaker 2: the multiple indictments against Trump have added a lot of points,

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Speaker 2: Republicans in the House need to proceed carefully. They need

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Speaker 2: They need to not have it appear political. Now in

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Speaker 2: But but that that that is certainly a vulnerability to

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Speaker 2: someone else in I think that remains a very real risk.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that a lot more on

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Speaker 2: the podcast, but not on this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was an interesting article this week that mentioned

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Speaker 1: five other names that came out all of a sudden,

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