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Speaker 3: let's start here because this was your first year in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. Your first year in the NFL is in

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing that stood out to me

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Speaker 4: a lot of football in college, especially at some of

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Speaker 4: the places we had been, but when you get to

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Speaker 4: the detail that must be done with just drastically changes.

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Speaker 4: So finishing up year one, it was exactly what everyone said.

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Speaker 4: It would be a lot, kind of a bit of

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Speaker 5: I know a couple of times he would be like,

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Speaker 4: Again, but but I just wanted to do it the

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Speaker 4: Jason Tarver just amazing to be able to walk down

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Speaker 4: there and ask those guys, you know, questions. You know,

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Speaker 4: Just really put their arms around me and help get

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Speaker 3: I remember watching Hard Knocks when it was the Jags

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Speaker 3: You don't have to recruit. I mean, you obviously have

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Speaker 4: Now, I didn't see that episode. Actually, I was probably recruiting,

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Speaker 4: So I think that's the difference, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: But working with professionals, and you certainly did with guys

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the biggest jump and change too

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Speaker 3: Do all right, First, So for you personally, what's something

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Speaker 4: Probably the most proud for me moment or time frame

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Speaker 4: So probably the most proud moment was that that just

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Speaker 3: I mean, you think about that four game winning streak

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't tell that story without those guys.

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Speaker 4: And I remember sitting in the back, like you know,

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Speaker 7: And he was like, yeah, everybody.

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Speaker 4: And they all played and they all had to contribute

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Speaker 7: Going to have to count on them all.

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Speaker 4: And I will never forget that lesson that Jim taught

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Speaker 4: You know, I just kind of had that moment a

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Speaker 7: So just being here through.

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Speaker 4: The cut up phase that I missed last year and

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Speaker 5: That he wants and the way that he wants it.

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Speaker 4: But also just the intricacies of the other positions and

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Speaker 4: here and Jim kind of handed me a playbook five

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Speaker 5: Whole draft book of the draft and said, all right,

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Speaker 7: They kind of gave me a pat on the back

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Speaker 4: So just being able to already be here and go

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Speaker 4: I think that's the biggest lesson that I kind of

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Speaker 4: getting to hear them here really Jim talked through it,

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Speaker 3: Let's sell you what certainly helps when you feel like

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Speaker 3: who they are as a human being. So what's something

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Speaker 3: they know you you hope to be a DC and

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Speaker 3: a head coach someday. But what's something you want them

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Speaker 3: to know about just who you are, what makes you tick,

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Speaker 3: what makes you you?

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Speaker 5: I just that's a great question.

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Speaker 4: You don't think about those things often because you're always

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Speaker 4: thinking about other people in this profession. If you're doing

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Speaker 4: it for the right reasons, and I think that's probably it.

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Speaker 4: I just I love being here. I think Cleveland, in

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Speaker 4: was from.

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Speaker 7: In college football.

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Speaker 4: Like the passion that you see in the college game

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Speaker 4: you don't always see in the NFL. But this fan base,

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Speaker 4: it's really been special to be around, and I am

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Speaker 4: extremely honored to be a small part of that and

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Speaker 4: to serve, you know, everyone in this city. So I

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Speaker 4: think for me, I just think that if they know

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Speaker 4: one thing about me, it's a servant mentality that I'm

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Speaker 4: honored to be here, excited if you see me on

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Speaker 4: the sideline, I know I look a little crazy sometimes,

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Speaker 4: but it's just I just feel like if everyone's gonna

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Speaker 4: pour that much passion into this place, then you should too.

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Speaker 3: Awesome Coach Banna, thank you so much for the time.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well back to more Cleveland Browns Daily brought

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Speaker 2: and NFL honors head coach Kevin Stefanski joining the Rich

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Speaker 2: the Year award. Let's take a listen, hey man, congratulations.

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Speaker 8: I appreciate it, as you know, I'm humbled, and you

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Speaker 8: know you feel great about these things that reflect so

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Speaker 8: much on the people around you. So it's an opportunity

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Speaker 8: for me to talk about our coaching staff, our players,

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Speaker 8: and really our full operation in Maria.

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, part of the reason why I believe

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Speaker 9: wins that that's helpful and making the playoffs that is

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Speaker 9: also helpful. But the way that you and your staff

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Speaker 9: did somehow navigate five different starting quarterbacks, four of them

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Speaker 9: in games that you know, we're one would say necessary

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Speaker 9: for you to make the playoffs, the last one you're

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Speaker 9: arresting your team. How are you able to negotiate the

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Speaker 9: season with so many different changes at the most important position.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's a great word, navigate, because it

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Speaker 8: felt like that a bunch this season and taking twists

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Speaker 8: and turns, and you know, you never know preseason. I

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Speaker 8: tell the coaches all the time, we have no idea

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Speaker 8: what's coming at us. There's just gonna be something that's coming.

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Speaker 8: And a lot of times it's injuries. And I think

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Speaker 8: back to Week one. We lose Jack Conslin, our starting tackle,

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Speaker 8: we do, we lose Nick Chubb, you know, our all

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Speaker 8: world running back. And you know what I got from

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Speaker 8: our coaches and from our players is nobody blank. There

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Speaker 8: were a bunch of problem solvers. And that's what that

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Speaker 8: challenge the coaches week in and week out is how

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Speaker 8: do we win this game? And when you say that,

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Speaker 8: you're talking about who's available to you that week, and

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Speaker 8: you know the different quarterback that was different, and you know,

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Speaker 8: credit to our coaches and credit to those players, because

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Speaker 8: you have to evolve as an offense when you're going

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Speaker 8: from you know, the Shawn and some of the things

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Speaker 8: You're you're going to change what you do because you're

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Speaker 8: trying to play to the strength of your players. So

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Speaker 8: that was all credit goes to that coaching staff and

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Speaker 8: the players.

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Speaker 9: How do how does one in your position keep the

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Speaker 9: next man up mentality and the competition behind the scenes

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Speaker 9: as intense as it probably needs to be and keep

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Speaker 9: everyone together. How does how does one create that environment?

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Speaker 8: Well, it is so cliche rich next man up. We

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Speaker 8: try to live it by making sure that that next

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Speaker 8: man stays ready so they don't have to get ready.

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Speaker 8: We look at everybody as a starter, and we have

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Speaker 8: our coaches. You know, you got to develop the third

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Speaker 8: guy on the depth chart because number three becomes number

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Speaker 8: one pretty quickly in the NFL. So it's really being

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Speaker 8: intentional about developing our guys, being intentional from our players

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Speaker 8: standpoint of never thinking that they're you know, hey, this

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Speaker 8: is I'm a rookie. It's a red shirt season that

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Speaker 8: really doesn't exist in the NFL. So the mentality in

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Speaker 8: our building is always to stay ready so you don't

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Speaker 8: have to get ready.

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Speaker 9: And obviously it is helpful to have, say a defensive

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Speaker 9: Player of the Year and comeback Player of the Year

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Speaker 9: on your roster as well. What was your perspective of

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Speaker 9: watching Miles Garrett do what he did this season.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm a better coach with Miles Garrett on the field,

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Speaker 8: if you can believe it. You know, for me, I

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Speaker 8: have the best seat in the house I get to

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Speaker 8: when we're on deep. I'm watching Jim Schwartz operate, and

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Speaker 8: then I'm watching Miles go to work. And I've seen

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Speaker 8: it for four years up close to see how he

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Speaker 8: is on Sundays, and I know our fans in the

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Speaker 8: NFL world has seen it. I really believe Miles took

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Speaker 8: a step this past season in terms of how hard

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Speaker 8: he works, how he leads this football team. Was elected

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Speaker 8: captain by the team, and just to see him go

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Speaker 8: and how he operated and when we needed a play,

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Speaker 8: he was making a play. You know, we talked earlier

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Speaker 8: about that Indianapolis game. We go to Indy, He's blocking

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Speaker 8: field goals, he's getting safeties. I mean, it was incredible.

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Speaker 8: It was like, you don't often see a guy take

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Speaker 8: over a game when they're a defensive player, and he

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Speaker 8: took over games. And I can speak from an offensive

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Speaker 8: coach's perspective. When you're game planning, everything you do is

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Speaker 8: trying to make sure Miles Garrett doesn't wreck the game.

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Speaker 8: And he's still wrecked games. And I think that's why

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Speaker 8: he's more than deserving to be Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 9: Kevin Stefanskidi, now two time NFL Coach of the Year,

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Speaker 9: joining us here on The Rich Eisen Show Live before

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Speaker 9: the Super Bowl here in Las Vegas. What was your

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Speaker 9: conversation with Joe Flacco like when you first picked up

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Speaker 9: the phone and he's looking down and he's trying to

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Speaker 9: figure out what that area code might be on his phone,

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Speaker 9: and then and then we saw what happened.

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Speaker 8: What was that conversation like, Well, the first thing that

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Speaker 8: comes in mind with that conversation, Rich, is Joe was

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Speaker 8: from South Jersey, just outside of Philly. I'm from Philly,

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Speaker 8: so when I'm talking to Joe, I'm hearing the Philly accent,

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Speaker 8: and I felt like I was talking to a cousin

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Speaker 8: or a brother or a guy I went to high

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Speaker 8: idea just talking to him. He has that autumn new jersey,

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Speaker 8: that accent has not left him so and he's Jose

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Speaker 8: pros pro Man. You know, we first signed him as

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Speaker 8: it wasn't a four gune conclusion he was gonna be

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Speaker 8: our starter. He was kind of he was our practice

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Speaker 8: squad and we just felt like we needed depth there

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Speaker 8: and then sure enough had some injuries and he's in there.

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Speaker 8: But man, that guy, the way he prepares, the way

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Speaker 8: he is around the building in the locker room, gives

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Speaker 8: his teammates such great confidence because there is an air

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Speaker 8: of I've been there, I've done that. A super Bowl winner,

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Speaker 8: So it was fun again for me to be a

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Speaker 8: part of that and just watch him operate.

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Speaker 9: And then before I let you go here, coach, you

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Speaker 9: mentioned how you felt like it sounded like you were

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Speaker 9: talking to a family member when you were talking to Flanco.

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Speaker 9: I know your dad's name is Ed. I don't believe

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Speaker 9: any of your kids are named Steve. Did you get

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Speaker 9: confused when the award was announced for Steven Stefanski on

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Speaker 9: Thursday night?

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Speaker 6: Did that hit well?

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Speaker 8: The truth is the truth is rich My cousin, Steve

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Speaker 8: had a great night last night. His phone, his phone

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Speaker 8: was blowing up and he called and we called him

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Speaker 8: right away and his words, he literally picked up the

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Speaker 8: phone and he says to me, I did it. Hard

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Speaker 8: work pays off.

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Speaker 3: So wait a minute, you do have a cousin named Steve.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, you know what, Richard, I'll get if you want.

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Speaker 8: I could merge to this call if you want to

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Speaker 8: have time.

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Speaker 7: You know what.

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Speaker 9: I was told he was not available last night to accept,

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Speaker 9: but that that had to talk about a curve ball.

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Speaker 9: But hey, it's all the Stefanskis won last night.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: I love it, That's right, And I won't whatever show

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Speaker 8: that actor was promoting, I'm not watching it.

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Speaker 9: You're not available either. Wow, ook, Hey you stand on principal, coach.

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Speaker 9: That's why you're a Teinaton Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying that, Hey, guys, Stamford.

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Speaker 2: Something coach having some fun with the great rich Eisen.

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Speaker 2: We look forward to seeing both of those guys in

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Speaker 2: NFL's scouting Combine. We'll take a quick time out when

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Speaker 2: we come back. It's offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey's introductory press conference.

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Speaker 2: It's offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey's introductory press conference from about

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Speaker 10: Okay, can introduce Ken Dorsey here in a second. You know,

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Speaker 10: I just want to address some of the changes we've

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Speaker 10: I'm really proud of the things that we've accomplished the

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Speaker 10: happy for him to be able to run that offense

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Speaker 10: Bill Callahan very unique situation there to go work for Brian,

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Speaker 10: not with Brian's gonna work for Brian. You know, I

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Speaker 10: of every kid as the boss their parents around. So

659
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 10: happy for those guys. Again, I think organizationally, we realize, uh,

660
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 10: that's a unique situation and did not want to stand

661
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 10: in the way of that, and you know, so excited

662
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 10: for certainly Brian and Bill down there. You know, when

663
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 10: we made this decision very early on, Ken was a

664
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 10: guy that we identified that could help us, help me,

665
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 10: you know, be an integral part of this offense. And

666
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 10: Ken and I have known each other a little while.

667
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 10: We've kind of come up in this profession together, if

668
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 10: you will. Just watching Ken in college, in the pros,

669
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 10: having success as a player, having success as a coach.

670
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 10: You know, he really fits who we are culturally. He's

671
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 10: a family man. His daughters are very important to everything

672
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 10: he's doing. He's been in I think how many volleyball

673
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 10: games this weekend.

674
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, quite a few.

675
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 10: So, but a really a smart person who fits us

676
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 10: from a culture standpoint, just has had a ton of

677
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 10: success really every stop along the way. And really pleased

678
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 10: to add Ken to this group play calling, which I

679
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 10: know everybody wants to talk about.

680
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 6: We'll get there. It's February fifth.

681
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 10: What's most important, what I'm looking forward to the most

682
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 10: is putting the offense back together with Ken really leading

683
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 10: the charge. And that's why he's here, and really pleased

684
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 10: to have him here. And with that, I'll introduce Ken Dorsey.

685
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 11: First and foremost, I just want to thank you know,

686
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 11: the Haslm family, Andrew, Barry, Kevin and everybody here for

687
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 11: this opportunity. This is really for me one of the

688
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 11: most exciting opportunities I've had, you know, to come back

689
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 11: here be a part of this not only because of

690
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 11: just the opportunity to coach here, but how great the

691
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 11: organization is from a human being standpoint and a person

692
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 11: people in this building standpoint. So I'm very excited about that.

693
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 11: I'm extremely excited to work with this offense, especially you know,

694
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 11: Deshaun and him being one of the top quarterbacks in

695
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 11: this league. The opportunity to really go out there this

696
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 11: season and help him prove that you know, he really

697
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 11: is that you know, a top quarterback in this league.

698
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 11: They can operate and and help us win a bunch

699
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 11: of football games. So I'm super excited about that opportunity

700
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 11: and uh and really looking forward to this challenge. And uh,

701
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 11: you know, not only with him, but but this whole

702
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 11: unit that is clearly you know, done a lot of

703
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 11: great things, uh, you know, throughout Kevin's time here and

704
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 11: and really evolved into a special group that can really

705
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 11: go out and and uh and show that we could

706
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 11: be a top offense in this league.

707
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 12: Well of question, Ken, first of all, welcome back, Thank you.

708
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 12: Do you have any flashbacks coming back into the building.

709
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 11: Or Maria, not really since it's changed so much. You know,

710
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 11: it's a I'm telling people, I think the only thing

711
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 11: that's same as the staircase in the front and the

712
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 11: door I walk through, you know, Other than that, the

713
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 11: place is completely different and in a great way, you know.

714
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 11: And and uh, just walking in here, it's like the

715
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 11: vibe is just so much different than when I was here,

716
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 11: you know, as a as a player. And that's that's

717
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 11: the fun part about for me. It's just like when

718
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 11: you when you walk into a building and you're excited

719
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 11: to come into work every day. I mean, that's uh,

720
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 11: that's something that's you know, invaluable and just a very

721
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 11: welcoming thing for me.

722
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 12: Quarterback former quarterback obviously played at the highest level, had

723
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 12: success in coaching quarterbacks initially. What is kind of your

724
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 12: role in you mentioned to Sean before in kind of

725
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 12: getting him to be the player that everybody hopes he

726
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 12: can be here.

727
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 11: I mean, one, it's just it's working the other hand

728
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 11: at hand, you know, And it's uh, I think the

729
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 11: first thing is obviously, you know, we we go through

730
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 11: and we evaluate the season, and we have honest conversations

731
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 11: and hey, we we look at tape and and we

732
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 11: watch what, you know, what we did on the field

733
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 11: and say, hey, this is our standard and this was

734
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 11: good enough and this, uh, this maybe didn't live up

735
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 11: to our standard. And I think that's that's the exciting

736
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 11: thing about Deshaun is, like you know, from everything I've

737
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 11: been told from you know, Kevin and the guys here,

738
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 11: this guy, you know, he wants to be coached. You know,

739
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 11: he wants to be you know, pushed and driven. And

740
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 11: you know, I think, uh, I'll be able to pick

741
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 11: up you know, where where the staff has left off

742
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,479
Speaker 11: on that. And I think they've done a great job

743
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 11: here throughout time. It's clear what we've been capable of

744
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 11: doing in the past few years. And now you know,

745
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 11: to pick that up with Deshaun and and really get

746
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 11: going and you know, obviously evaluate those things and then

747
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 11: go in and let's build a great base of fundamentals

748
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 11: that we can depend on throughout the year and uh,

749
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 11: and make sure we're doing those things that you know,

750
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 11: come the fourth quarter of games like we're we've still

751
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 11: got a great base that that will help us be

752
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 11: accurate and uh, you know, when things get a little messy,

753
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 11: we could still rely on those things and and uh,

754
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 11: and deliver accurate throws and make great decisions. So that's

755
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 11: that's half the battle. Our Our job in the quarterback

756
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 11: room is to go out score points and help us

757
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 11: win football games, whether it's one point or twenty points

758
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 11: or whatever, you know. And and I think, Uh, when

759
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 11: we got got a guy like him, he's going to

760
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 11: help you do that.

761
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 6: And quarterback to the famous one. Yeah, exact opposite.

762
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 8: That's what you play the games.

763
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,280
Speaker 13: I mean, what what how have you been able to

764
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 13: take advantage of those two quarterbacks?

765
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the understanding of those guys can do

766
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 11: things that a lot of people can't, you know. And look,

767
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 11: at the same time, there's gonna be some times and

768
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 11: I've been through it with with Camon, with Josh, where

769
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 11: you know, they're gonna they're gonna make unbelievable plays that

770
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 11: everybody's gonna be like, that's amazing. But then there's gonna

771
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 11: be you know, times that hey, you know, we scramble

772
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 11: around and we might take a sack or something like that,

773
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 11: and it's like, well, just throw you know, just throw

774
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 11: the ball. Well, you know, sometimes there's a there's a

775
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 11: give and take there, but it's the understanding of Okay,

776
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 11: we've got to make sure we're we're playing smart not

777
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 11: conservative in terms of what we're doing, and we're doing

778
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 11: the things that you know, we're we're taking chances, and

779
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 11: we're we're extending plays, and we're doing things in a

780
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 11: in a way that you know isn't gonna be detrimental

781
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 11: for us as a team and us as an offense.

782
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 11: And so it's a it's a balancing act there with

783
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 11: those guys, but the understanding of knowing that, like these

784
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 11: guys can do a lot of things that that other

785
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 11: people can't, and there's some give and take there when

786
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 11: when those things happen, and you know what, Hey, if

787
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 11: there's a bad play, Hey, okaytch that one, Let's move

788
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 11: on to the next one. Not only him, but the

789
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 11: whole offense, you know. And uh, and that's offensive football,

790
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 11: you know, it's it's a long game, and there's gonna

791
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 11: be good and bad. It's hey, let's focus on this play,

792
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 11: every single play and and come back and get this one.

793
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 6: Yeah.

794
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 14: And what happened in the Buffalo this past.

795
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 11: Year, I mean, look, at the end of the day,

796
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 11: the head coach decided to make a change, and that's

797
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 11: you know, that's something that uh, you know, I've turned

798
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 11: the page on. I'm really excited to be here and

799
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 11: more focused on this opportunity than than what happened there.

800
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 14: So what do you take from from looks like that's

801
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 14: the first time you've been fired, I.

802
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 11: Guess I mean, uh I uh, Carolina, I got a

803
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 11: lego in Carolina.

804
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 14: What do you take from that that you bring it here?

805
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 11: Well, I think one of the big things was that

806
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 11: it gave me time to kind of go back and

807
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 11: look at Okay, you know, here's what we did, Here's

808
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 11: what we were doing schematically, and and how we're utilizing

809
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 11: our personnel and really evaluate what we were doing. And

810
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 11: uh and when I did, I felt like there was

811
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 11: a lot of great things that we were doing. And uh,

812
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 11: you know, yeah, there was there's always things that hey,

813
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 11: maybe I'd do this a little bit differently, you know,

814
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 11: kind of moving forward and uh. But again, when you

815
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 11: when you make those decisions, every opportunity is very unique

816
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 11: as well too. So hey, you know, no matter what

817
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 11: when I when I'm coming here, You're going to evolve

818
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 11: and and do some things differently because your personnel and

819
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 11: and the system and and the different things are are

820
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 11: also changing. But I think you look back and you say, okay,

821
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 11: you know, were we on the right track? Were we

822
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 11: doing the things that I felt like at the end

823
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 11: of the day as a you know, leader of the offense,

824
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 11: and the play color was giving us, you know, the

825
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 11: best chance to win in a lot of cases, you know,

826
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 11: there was a lot of yesses and sometimes it was

827
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 11: you know, in certain situations maybe I would do something

828
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 11: a little different here.

829
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 15: Important is play calling to you? And if Kevin retains

830
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 15: that for how can you impact the game?

831
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 11: And uh, play calling to me is you know, uh

832
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 11: not as important as winning winning football games, you know.

833
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 11: To me, it's it's more about, all right, what's the

834
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 11: decision that we feel most comfortable about moving forward to

835
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 11: help our team win? And I've been, you know, in

836
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 11: my career more interested about, okay, what what can I

837
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 11: do to help this team win, you know, more so

838
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 11: than anything else. And that's the only thing that matters

839
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 11: to me. So whether Kevin's calling it, I'm calling it.

840
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 11: You know, that's to me, you know, the most important

841
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 11: thing is us as a team. So uh, now, if

842
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 11: if Kevin's calling, what can I do? I could do

843
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 11: my job to as high of ability as humanly possible.

844
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 11: I could get to Sean Ray to play each and

845
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 11: every week. I can get our room rate to play

846
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 11: each and every week because we got a great room

847
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 11: and I'm sure we'll add to that, you know. And

848
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 11: then I could help develop a game plan that's going

849
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 11: to help us be multiple attack of defense in different ways,

850
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 11: be aggressive, you know, and and uh and and be

851
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 11: you know, elite in what we do. And that's the

852
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 11: most important thing to me, you know, just doing that

853
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 11: to make sure if I'm in that role, Hey, I'm

854
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 11: gonna do that at an extremely high level.

855
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 3: Have you spoken with h with the show?

856
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, So I was able to have a conversation with him,

857
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 11: and it was great. You know, we're in the we're

858
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 11: in the phase obviously the off season of just more

859
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 11: getting to know each other and and and that type

860
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 11: of thing. So, uh, it was great to talk to him.

861
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 11: I look forward to, you know, have more conversations, just

862
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 11: get to know him, get to know the guy, get

863
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 11: to know the person you know, and and a lot

864
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 11: of these guys you know in the in the building.

865
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 11: So uh, but it was it was really good to

866
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 11: get him on the phone and just kind of you know,

867
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 11: initial conversations, and I I can't wait to get to

868
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 11: work for him with him because, uh again, he's he's

869
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 11: one of the premier quarterbacks in this league. And from

870
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 11: everything I've I've heard about him a really quality human being.

871
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 11: So I'm just excited about that opportunity.

872
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Speaker 3: How do you think your time with Cam and Josh,

873
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 3: with the.

874
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 8: You know, the ability to run, how do you think

875
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 8: they can help to Shawan? And I know they're not

876
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 8: you know, exactly.

877
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 3: The same body types, but no, how similar do you

878
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: think they are?

879
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 11: I mean that's the thing every quarterback is. You know,

880
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 11: people looked and saw you know, Cam and and Josh

881
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 11: and said, oh, they're they're the same. They were very

882
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 11: unique and different, different players in a lot of ways.

883
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 11: So every every one of these guys is is so unique.

884
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 11: No one's no one's the same same guy, whether it's

885
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 11: you know, the mental uh you know, kind of how

886
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 11: they see the game versus how they play the game,

887
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 11: versus kind of just their personality. So everybody is unique

888
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 11: in those types of ways. But you know, some of

889
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 11: the things that you can do, uh, you know stays

890
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 11: the same. You know, their ability to get outside the pocket,

891
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 11: create make plays. Uh, third down, extend plays and and

892
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 11: uh and you know, put a defense in a bind,

893
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 11: you know. And and there's some teams that that affects

894
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 11: kind of how they call the game and how they

895
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 11: how they you know, game plan their rushes and their

896
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 11: blitzes and those types of things, you know, because you've

897
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 11: got a guy that can hurt them if he gets

898
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 11: outside the pocket or breaks contained. So again, every every

899
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 11: one of these guys is very different. But I think

900
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Speaker 11: there's things you could take away, you know, whether it's

901
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 11: the run game, the zone re game, the r p

902
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Speaker 11: O game, because all those things a lot of times

903
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 11: you can't necessarily teach them. It's a natural field that

904
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 11: these guys have. And watching to Sean, he clearly has

905
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 11: a great feel for a lot of different aspects of football,

906
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 11: whether it's scheme wise for us, instincts of what he

907
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 11: sees on the field in terms of the defense and

908
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 11: and adjusting things. But I think that's the exciting part

909
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 11: about working with him is is getting back to to

910
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 11: the elite level that that he's he of who he is.

911
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 14: How do you view the.

912
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Speaker 16: State of offensive system you come in here? How much

913
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 16: of an overhaul do you think you and Kevin are

914
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Speaker 16: going to be working together on this offseason to bring

915
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Speaker 16: out more from DeShawn than we've.

916
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Speaker 4: Seen so far.

917
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 11: Well, I think the I mean, that's part of the

918
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 11: excitement for me coming here. I mean, you watch this

919
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 11: offense on film and there there's a lot of exciting

920
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 11: things about it, not only from a player standpoint, but

921
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Speaker 11: h you know, what we're doing in creativity and different

922
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Speaker 11: different ways to attack a defense standpoint. So I think

923
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Speaker 11: there's there's a lot of exciting things that that we've done.

924
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Speaker 11: And and then obviously you know, every year, whether it's

925
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Speaker 11: me coming in new this year, but every year you

926
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Speaker 11: look to evolve and to evaluate and change, Hey do

927
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 11: we like this?

928
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Speaker 8: No?

929
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Speaker 11: Take it out? You know? Do we do we want

930
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Speaker 11: to add this?

931
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

932
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Speaker 11: Ad it? You know what I mean. And and there's

933
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Speaker 11: there's always that evolution that you look to try to

934
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Speaker 11: stay ahead of the curve. So that's gonna happen. But

935
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Speaker 11: I think that's the the exciting part to come in

936
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Speaker 11: now is is to be a part of that and

937
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Speaker 11: and blend these kind of two different philosophies, you know,

938
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Speaker 11: and and you know, incorporate different different things that maybe

939
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Speaker 11: we did in in Buffalo or Carolina, or or whatnot.

940
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Speaker 11: And then obviously we've got some other coaches who are

941
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Speaker 11: coming in who are going to be able to add

942
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Speaker 11: their you know, uh from their experiences as well. And

943
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Speaker 11: that's the exciting part. I mean, that's why that's what

944
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 11: makes ball fun is to come in and really kind

945
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 11: of roll up your sleeves and say, okay, you know,

946
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 11: where where do we want to go? And then the

947
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Speaker 11: course of the year, you know, you're still learning yourself

948
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Speaker 11: in training camp and and you know throughout the off

949
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Speaker 11: season program and into training camp and really the first

950
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 11: couple of weeks of the season, you know, that's when

951
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Speaker 11: things start defining, you know, kind of who you are

952
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 11: from an identity standpoint, you know, because when you look

953
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Speaker 11: at free agency, draft and all those things, it takes

954
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 11: time to you know, work all those pieces. You know,

955
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 11: are we going to be an eleven team, a twelve team,

956
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 11: a twenty one team? You don't know that. You can't

957
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 11: say that right now because we don't have the roster.

958
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 11: And that's the fun part about the NFL is is

959
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 11: you got time to figure that out and there's going

960
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Speaker 11: to be a process that we go through to do.

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Speaker 2: So our one is in the books, our two comes

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Speaker 2: your way next, and we'll kick it off with Nathan

963
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Speaker 2: Ziggura breaking down the Browns running back room in our

964
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Speaker 2: position review segment of the day. I'm Jason Gibbs and

965
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Speaker 17: Hubb lined up in the backfield next to Watson, who

971
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Speaker 17: is in the pistol.

972
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Speaker 3: Three receivers left.

973
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Speaker 17: Chubb gets it up the middle, count up to thirty five,

974
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Speaker 17: the forty. The forty five keeps himself going up near

975
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Speaker 17: the fifty yard line. The Browns have another first down

976
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 17: and you could hear the Browns fans starting to make

977
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Speaker 17: themselves known.

978
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're in that shotgun. Look, the Browns saw

979
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 3: that the Steelers weren't a light box. But what they

980
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: try to do is bring Minka Fitzpatrick up in a unblitz.

981
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 3: And when you do that, if you're in the wrong gap,

982
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: the running back's able to run right by you. Nick

983
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 3: Chubb did that very effectively, big gain of twenty yard. Yeah.

984
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Speaker 13: Of course, like like you said, with the losses, with

985
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 13: Nick going down, I think everybody had like that pride

986
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 13: in them, like we're gonna go on and we gonna do.

987
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 6: Everything we can to win this week for Nick and

988
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 6: you know, to get back on track.

989
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 17: Watson looking down the left side, he's got a wide open.

990
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 3: It's Ford to Watson's left.

991
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 18: That give to Ford. No, Yes, Ford up the middle,

992
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 18: drove Ford and the fifty Colt Seragery forty. It's a

993
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 18: foot race twenty ten. Ford is not gonna get caught.

994
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 18: He's into the end zone as sixty nine yard touchdown run.

995
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 3: And just like that, the Browns are on the board.

996
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: You want to start fast against this team, That's how

997
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: you start fast.

998
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 19: Oh, we did it for him, man, Nick. Nick is

999
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 19: a brother, you know, everybody wanted to win this for

1000
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 19: him too, and you know we definitely miss him out there,

1001
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 19: you know, the person and the teammate player he is.

1002
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 7: But we gotta keep finding a way to you know,

1003
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 7: the win games.

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00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 18: Browns from the one. This is the game out of

1005
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 18: the eye. They need the touchdown hunt and Harris Walker

1006
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 18: gives to Kareem Hunt pushing, pushing touchdown. Kareem Hut got

1007
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 18: it across the goal line.

1008
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: Kareem Hunt, are the cardiac kids back? Kareem Hunt getting

1009
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: it over the goal line? The huge touchdown on fourth down.

1010
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: You knew you could run it at that point, it

1011
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 3: didn't matter. That was the last play. Wow, what a

1012
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 3: surge over the left side of that line behind your

1013
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: five time Pro Bowl guard Joe Buttonio.

1014
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 18: Let's see on the replay did he get there? Initially

1015
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 18: his progress stopped? Yes, he did that ball, that elbow

1016
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 18: is on the goal line.

1017
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Speaker 3: That should stand.

1018
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 18: And with fifteen seconds to go, the Browns lead thirty.

1019
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 3: Nine thirty eight.

1020
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Speaker 18: Walker motions out of the backfield, Kareem alone in the backfield,

1021
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 18: direct snap, Kareem Hunt running, spinning, scoring touchdown Browns.

1022
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 3: That was something the Browns had worked on all week.

1023
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 3: They thought they could get a good look if they

1024
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 3: took the quarterback out. Direct snap to Kareem Hunt, and

1025
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Speaker 3: congratulations to Kareem Hunt. That is the fiftieth touchdown of

1026
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: his career, his second rushing touchdown in as many weeks.

1027
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Speaker 17: Walker in the pistol with Pierre Strong wined up behind him,

1028
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 17: playfake Walker looks right, He's gonna throw it back left

1029
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 17: to Strong on the screen.

1030
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Speaker 20: He's got some space forty five to fifty forty five,

1031
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 20: forty thirty five thirty inside the twenty five of the

1032
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 20: twenty before Reek Woland pushes him out of bounds for

1033
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Speaker 20: the Browns' biggest play of the game.

1034
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: I like Pierre Strong. I like his acceleration. You could

1035
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 3: see once he got the ball in his hand, he

1036
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,959
Speaker 3: really was able to take off. And again, good play

1037
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: design because you had the one receiver out there, Goodwin.

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00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: He ran a deep post that took the deep defenders out,

1039
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Speaker 3: which is why there were how much space here on

1040
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Speaker 3: that left sideline for Pierre Strong. Welcome back to Cleveland

1041
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: Browns Daily, brought to you by Valley, that sports betting

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Speaker 3: partner of your Cleveland Browns. Nathan Zegura breaking down the

1043
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: running back room, what we saw in twenty twenty three

1044
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 3: and what we will see in twenty twenty four. Now,

1045
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, that wasn't the running back room any

1046
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Speaker 3: of us expected. We all expected it to be Nick

1047
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Speaker 3: Chubb leading the way for the Cleveland Browns. Chubb, the

1048
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 3: consummate professional, Chubb, the best running back in the National

1049
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: Football League. Prior to the twenty twenty three season, he

1050
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 3: was coming in on four straight Pro Bowls, four straight

1051
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 3: thousand yard seasons, four straight actually five straight seasons with

1052
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Speaker 3: at least eight touchdowns, and in twenty twenty two career

1053
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Speaker 3: high end Carri's career high fifteen hundred and twenty five yards,

1054
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Speaker 3: career high, twelve rushing touchdowns, career high, and basically every

1055
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Speaker 3: category thirteen total touchdowns. That was also a career high

1056
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Speaker 3: seventeen hundred and sixty four total yards, eight short of

1057
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Speaker 3: a career high. So did he have an unbelievable year. Yes,

1058
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Speaker 3: at four straight Pro Bowls. He was a second team

1059
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 3: All Pro in twenty two and so twenty twenty three

1060
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Speaker 3: started with great optimism for what Nickchubb could be for

1061
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns. And I'll tell you what, it looked like.

1062
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 3: It was going to be every bit as good as

1063
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Speaker 3: we thought it might be. Nick Chubb goes down for

1064
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Speaker 3: the season in Week two. In the first half of

1065
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 3: Week two, and in a six quarters of action, he

1066
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Speaker 3: had twenty eight carries for one hundred and seventy yards.

1067
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 3: He averaged six point one yards per carry, four catches

1068
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Speaker 3: for twenty one so basically one hundred ninety one total

1069
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 3: yards in just six quarters, averaging what would have been

1070
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Speaker 3: a career high six yards per touch six point one

1071
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: yards per carry. But he was lost in Pittsburgh in

1072
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Speaker 3: devastating fashion, a season ending injury, and we're still not

1073
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: even sure if he'll be ready for the start of

1074
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. So what did the Browns have to

1075
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Speaker 3: do to make up for the loss of Nick Chubb.

1076
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 3: Well they turned to their round draft pick from a

1077
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Speaker 3: year ago, Jerome Ford. Jerome Ford, I don't think people

1078
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 3: remember only had eight carries for twelve yards in that

1079
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: rookie season. Well, he had to become the guy, and

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Speaker 3: become the guy quickly. He actually filled in and ranned

1081
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 3: four more than one hundred yards in that first game

1082
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Speaker 3: against the Steelers. When Nick Chubb went down for the season,

1083
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Speaker 3: Ford to run for two hundred and four times for

1084
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Speaker 3: eight hundred and thirteen yards with four touchdowns average four

1085
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Speaker 3: yards of carry. He would also give you forty four

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Speaker 3: catches for three hundred and nineteen yards and five receiving touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: He was second on the team, tied with Amari Cooper

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Speaker 3: with five receiving touchdowns this year, eleven hundred and thirty

1089
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: two yards and nine touchdowns. They would have to turn

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Speaker 3: to a very familiar face, bringing back Kareem Hunt. Kareem Hunt,

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Speaker 3: who was on his couch much like Joe Flacco was

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Speaker 3: when we talked about it in the quarterback position review,

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Speaker 3: so was Kareem Hunt. And Kareem came back and he

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00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: gave such an emotional lift to this team. He was

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00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,879
Speaker 3: the hammer at the goal line. You think about Kareem

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00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 3: Hunt running the ball in at the end of the

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00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: game on fourth down against Indianapolis, Kareem Hunt would run

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00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 3: for four hundred and eleven yards and a career high

1099
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: nine rushing touchdowns, more than he rushed for at any point.

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Speaker 3: The Browns also traded for Pierre Strong. Pierre Strong would

1101
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: actually lead this team in yards per carry. So you

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Speaker 3: had Jerome Ford lead the team in rushing yards had

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00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: and total yards. You had Kareem Hunt tied for the

1104
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Speaker 3: team lead in or lead the team in rushing touchdowns,

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00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 3: and then Pierre Strong led the team in yards per carry.

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Speaker 3: And I like Pierre Strong. He's fast. Sixty three carries

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00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: two or ninety one yards a touchdown that came in

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00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: that game against Pittsburgh four point six yards of carry

1109
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 3: to lead this football team. He averaged five yards a

1110
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 3: touch that was the best among all the running backs

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00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 3: outside of Nick Chubb. And so it was a three

1112
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Speaker 3: headed monster. And if we said to ourselves, we're not

1113
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 3: gonna have Nick Chubb, and what did I say, Nick

1114
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 3: Chubb last year seventeen hundred total yards thirteen touchdowns, that

1115
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Speaker 3: this group of Jerome Ford, Kareem Hunt, and Pierre Strong,

1116
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: that they would combine to give you basically two thousand

1117
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 3: total yards and nineteen total touchdowns, you would have said

1118
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 3: there's no way, But that's exactly what this team did.

1119
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 3: They found a way, the next man stepped up, and

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00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 3: so what you ultimately ended up having was a remarkable

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00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 3: performance by guys that were not expected to do anything

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Speaker 3: other than be role players. And in the case of

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Speaker 3: Pierre Strong and Kareem Hunt, you guys who weren't even

1124
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 3: at the Greenbrier with the Browns, Guys who didn't really

1125
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: figure into your plans. Cream Hunt wasn't with the team

1126
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 3: on week one, and yet they came in and they

1127
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: were able to do that and give this team some consistency,

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00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: some production, and some splash plays. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: Jerome Ford, the sixty nine yard touchdown run against the

1130
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts. You had the catch and run of fifty

1131
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 3: yards for the touchdown against the Jets, and the clincher

1132
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: Kareem punching it in whenever he got the opportunity, Strong

1133
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 3: making some big play. So they did a great job.

1134
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Speaker 3: So the question then becomes, what will it look like

1135
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four. Well, here's what's the deal. Chubb,

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00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 3: Ford Strong, John Kelly on the reserves list. They're all

1137
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: under contract. Ford and Strong are in the thirty years

1138
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 3: of their rookie deal. Nick Chubb is in the last

1139
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: year of his deal, and I think you heard Andrew

1140
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: Berry say we don't know what his injury status is

1141
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: when he will be ready, but that they will do

1142
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 3: everything to keep him on this roster. When you say

1143
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: something like that, it feels like that means that they're

1144
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 3: going to have to perhaps restructure and extend his contract.

1145
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 3: His cap hit in twenty twenty four to fifteen point

1146
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: eight million, and we don't know if that'll be for

1147
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 3: a full season or what. So my guess is the

1148
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: Browns will try to lower that number for this season,

1149
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 3: extend it out to the future, and keep Nick Chubb

1150
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: here with the Cleveland Browns. So Number one, what happens

1151
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: with him on the contract front. That's a big part

1152
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 3: of it. And then the second part is what happens

1153
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 3: with Nick Chubb after sustaining what was a devastating injury

1154
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 3: and now he came back from one at Georgia. Can

1155
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: he come back from one again? He's a little bit

1156
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: older now, but Nick Chubb is the one person I

1157
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,359
Speaker 3: would never bet against because his work ethic. We've seen

1158
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 3: him around the facility. He looks great. He is hungry

1159
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: to be back, and you want to see him return

1160
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 3: to that form of being the best running back in

1161
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Speaker 3: the NFL. Because as good as our runners were some

1162
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 3: big plays, we were not the dangerous running team that

1163
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 3: we were with Nick Chubb because he was simply that good.

1164
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb always leads the league and runs the more

1165
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 3: than ten yards, always leads a league and runs the

1166
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 3: more than twenty yards. So we didn't have really that

1167
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: home run element to this game. So that's where we

1168
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 3: are right now. Will the team And then you got

1169
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 3: Kareem Hunt as a free agent, and you wonder what

1170
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 3: his future looks like. I know he wants to be

1171
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 3: back and I certainly think there's a role for him

1172
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 3: as an emotional, spiritual leader and as that goal line hammer.

1173
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 3: Kareem Hunt wasn't gonna run for twenty thirty yards affect.

1174
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 3: His long run on the season was sixteen yards, But

1175
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 3: he was gonna get you three yards every time. He

1176
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 3: was gonna get you over the line of scrimmage fourth

1177
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Speaker 3: and one if you needed that at the goal line,

1178
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: if you needed Kareem Hunt would not be denied. And

1179
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: so there is value there. We'll see if maybe Kareem

1180
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 3: Hunt is back with the Cleveland Browns or if this

1181
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 3: team decides to add another running back via the draft.

1182
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 3: You've got two young guys I mentioned Ford and Strong,

1183
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: fifth and fourth rounders from two years ago, respectively. You

1184
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: got Chubb, and then we'll see what happens around those guys.

1185
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: As for Jerome Ford, what does he need to do

1186
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 3: to take the next step forward his career. I think

1187
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 3: he's got to get north and south a little bit more.

1188
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 3: I think he's got to be able to minimize the

1189
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: negative runs. I think too often hit behind the line

1190
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 3: of scrimmage too often, negative plays, And I think if

1191
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 3: he can take that negative plays, reduce those add a

1192
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 3: few more home runs. He's shown the ability he can

1193
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 3: catch it forty four catches, three hundred nineteen yards, five touchdowns.

1194
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: We know he can run it as well, eight hundred

1195
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 3: and thirteen yards. That Jerome Ford could be an excellent

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00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 3: compliment to what we see with a returning Nick Chubb

1197
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: next season. Another question this running back room is about

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Speaker 3: Pierre Strong, and he's a guy that I liked. I

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Speaker 3: was unabashiate because you could see that acceleration, you could

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Speaker 3: see that burst. Other than Nick Chubb, Pierre Strong, as

1201
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,360
Speaker 3: I said, led this team in yards per carry at

1202
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: four point six, led the team in yards per touch,

1203
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: and he led the team in rushing success rate. And

1204
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: this is one of the things that I think they're

1205
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 3: really going to look at. Jerome Ford by example, thirty

1206
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 3: nine point seven percent success rate, Kareem Hunt forty five

1207
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 3: point nine, Strong fifty one percent, Nick Chubb fifty seven.

1208
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 3: Ford's got to eliminate those negative runs that detract from that

1209
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: success rate. Whereas Pierre Strong got a hold onto the ball.

1210
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: We saw him put it on the ground only once,

1211
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 3: but it was at a critical moment. You got to

1212
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: hold onto the ball. And really it's more for him

1213
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 3: the seasoning learning the offense, he didn't have the benefit

1214
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: of a full off season. He's a wild card. To me,

1215
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 3: Pierre Strong's a guy that perhaps with a full off

1216
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 3: season to get integrated into this offense, that perhaps he

1217
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 3: has a higher ceiling because of that burst that speed.

1218
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 3: He was the fastest running back in the twenty twenty

1219
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 3: three NFL combine. He shows that home run ability for

1220
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 3: his careers well over five yards per carry. And so

1221
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 3: Pierre Strong is the guy that maybe with the benefit

1222
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 3: of a full off season, he's somebody that could take

1223
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: a big, big step forward now in his second season

1224
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: with the Browns, and if the Browns would bring it

1225
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 3: in Ken Dorsey are maybe going to go a little

1226
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: more spread oriented. He is a dangerous player in space,

1227
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 3: good hands catching it, he could run it. As I said,

1228
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 3: for his career five point four yards per carry. So

1229
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 3: there it is. That's a look at the running back room.

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: Our final question here in the Browns running back room

1231
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 3: review is on a scale of one to ten, one

1232
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 3: being the lowest, ten being the highest priority and upgrading

1233
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: this room. And I think that's a tough question to

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00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: ask because if Nick Chubb comes back and is healthy

1235
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 3: and is even eighty percent of who Nick Chubb was prior.

1236
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 3: The room is instantly upgraded, right because you've got Nick

1237
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 3: Chubb and the greatness that he provides. I do think

1238
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: it is a room you have to look at. I

1239
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 3: think the Browns will be judicious with their resources. So

1240
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 3: that means maybe Nick Chubb taking a little bit of

1241
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 3: a restructure to lower his cap number for this year,

1242
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: and then perhaps you add another guy in the draft,

1243
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 3: or you add a free agent veteran on the minimum.

1244
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 3: I don't expect a lot of resources to be added here.

1245
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 3: The other way they could go, though, is if there's

1246
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: a running back that they love who's there in the

1247
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 3: second round and they try to find, you know, the

1248
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: next Nick Chubb. I could see the Browns doing that

1249
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: as well. So is it a huge priority, No, because,

1250
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 3: as I said before, you got basically two thousand total

1251
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 3: yards and nineteen touchdowns from your running backs even without

1252
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb. But I do think getting Nick Chubb back

1253
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 3: instantly makes the room better, even if he's not one

1254
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 3: hundred percent of what he was before. And then we'll

1255
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 3: see how Andrew Berry moves around that. At the end

1256
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 3: of the day. The running back position, while very very important.

1257
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: Is not one that the Browns, given where their money

1258
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: has been allocated elsewhere, are going to be able to

1259
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 3: have a huge expenditure. So there isn't going to be

1260
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: a big name that's added to that room. It's either

1261
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 3: going to be a draft pick on a rookie deal,

1262
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 3: or it is going to be a veteran I think

1263
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: around the league minimum joining Chubb, Ford and Perre Strong.

1264
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Speaker 3: That's a look at the Browns running backs here on

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Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns Daily. We'll be back right after this on

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Speaker 3: joined in studio by Brown's assistant Special teams coach, Stephen

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Speaker 3: Bravo Brown. Steve Man, how you doing good to have you.

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Speaker 13: Here, Dan well Man, Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 13: It's an honor to be here. A lot of good

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Speaker 13: stuff on your radio shows, so I'm glad to be

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Speaker 13: a part of it.

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Speaker 3: We're certainly honored to have you as well. Before we

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Speaker 3: talk into what you've done recently, let's just go back

1280
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 3: and take a look at this season, because it was

1281
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 3: a pretty magical season and some pretty impressive performances by

1282
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 3: the Brown special teams units as well. What did you

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01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 3: kind of make of this season you're first working with

1284
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 3: you know, Bubba vent Tron.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, So, first of all, bubb It does a great

1286
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 13: job schematically, personnel wise, organizational wise, he does a great job.

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Speaker 13: So it was a great you know, change up for

1288
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 13: me and just to learn under him.

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Speaker 6: Season wise.

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Speaker 13: I mean, I feel like we revitalized our season, especially

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Speaker 13: with the scheme and the players that we put in

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01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 13: position to make plays. Players like Mike Ford and you know,

1293
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 13: Miles Garrett on the field goal block unit, Matt Adams.

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01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 13: Those guys really helped revitalize our special team's unit for

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Speaker 13: twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: And those are some of the guys you first went

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01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 3: out and got Mike Ford Matt Adams that you mentioned

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Speaker 3: to as soon as Bubble was hired. I was like,

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Speaker 3: those two guys that are in the mix here. When

1300
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 3: you have guys that are core special teams players like

1301
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 3: that who are there and they're able to raise the

1302
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 3: bar for everybody around them.

1303
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's beneficial and significant for us to

1304
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 13: have as a special team unit. I mean, you think

1305
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 13: about it as the quarterback of the offense when you

1306
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 13: have a leader at the helm and someone that everyone

1307
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 13: could rely on, someone that everyone looks to when times

1308
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 13: are hard, And I think that's crucial for a special

1309
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 13: teams unit as well.

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Speaker 3: So we are doing the Brownie Awards at the end

1311
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 3: of the year, and one of the things we're doing,

1312
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 3: we did the best games and then now we're doing

1313
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 3: the best plays of the year. And you mentioned Miles earlier. Well,

1314
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 3: the Miles Garrett field goal block against Indianapolis is probably

1315
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Speaker 3: gonna win this thing. When I'll tell you a little

1316
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 3: bit back. So, Bubba did his press conference that Thursday downstairs,

1317
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 3: and he would always come up here and then you

1318
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: come in here and chop it up with us for

1319
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 3: a little bit. And he told me we're blocking a

1320
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 3: kick that game, And ironically I said to him, I

1321
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 3: was like, why don't we ever try Miles? Just not

1322
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 3: knowing anything obviously, and he didn't say, didn't give anything away.

1323
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 3: He's just like we're going to block a kick this way,

1324
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, and then you go to the game.

1325
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 3: He called the shot. You get the block. He jumps

1326
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 3: over the line in one of the most unbelievable athletic

1327
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 3: feats I've ever seen. How fun was that kind of

1328
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 3: putting that in and then seeing it come to reality

1329
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 3: and him actually doing it.

1330
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, so that's actually a good point. This is what

1331
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 13: I want everyone to understand too. That's a special teas play.

1332
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 13: That's not a defensive play. Okay, that's a special teas play.

1333
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 13: So we walked through that play. First of all, we

1334
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 13: install it. We tell him exactly, this is what we

1335
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 13: want you guys to do.

1336
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 6: This is how it looks.

1337
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 13: This is the hand placement, this is where you have

1338
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 13: to jump, this is the aiming point. We walked through it,

1339
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 13: we jogged through it, and we practiced it three or

1340
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 13: four times like throughout the week. And to see it

1341
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 13: happen in the game exactly how you know we planned

1342
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 13: it is very been like.

1343
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 6: It was a great feeling.

1344
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 13: I just wish Denzel would have picked it up and scored,

1345
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 13: but it was a great result and definitely helped us

1346
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 13: win the game.

1347
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 3: So did he come to you and he was like, look,

1348
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 3: I can do this. Like, how did we get to

1349
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 3: the point where we decided we were going to walk through?

1350
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 3: We were going to actually just because somebody said, yeah,

1351
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna just jump over everybody. But okay, but

1352
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 3: it is Miles Garrett's.

1353
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we already had it predetermined that.

1354
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 13: So what we're gonna do, especially this week, you know,

1355
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 13: Boba going back to play his former team, he knew

1356
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 13: what they're what they were vulnerable to give up, especially

1357
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 13: in that gap that Miles jumped over, and it's just

1358
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 13: something that we saw on film and he planned it,

1359
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 13: and Miles is the perfect guy to do it.

1360
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 6: They wouldn't expect it, and he did.

1361
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 3: It so unbelievable. And then later in the year he

1362
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 3: almost got a couple coming around the edge, which is

1363
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 3: crazy when you think about a defensive end being able

1364
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 3: to do that. But I think he blocked nine kicks

1365
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 3: when you're in high school. He was just he's just different.

1366
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 6: He's a freak. So anywhere you put that guy, he's

1367
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 6: going to make a play.

1368
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 13: So and that's what we want to do, especially on

1369
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 13: our field goal block unit, is put him in a

1370
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 13: position to make a game change of play.

1371
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 3: How cool is it, though, that you have somebody like

1372
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 3: Miles Garrett, the Defensive Player of the Year, multiple time

1373
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 3: Pro bowler, first Team All Pro. You've got Denzel who's

1374
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: a multiple time Pro bowler saying, yeah, we want to

1375
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 3: we want to be a part of special teams. We're

1376
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 3: not above it. We want to be a part of it.

1377
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 3: And both of them have been very, very good at

1378
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 3: it over the course of their careers.

1379
01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 6: For sure.

1380
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 13: It's it's a good feeling, especially like even like Denzel,

1381
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 13: like how you mentioned, He's like, man, I'm like, I'm

1382
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 13: ready to go. Put me in the position to block

1383
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 13: this ball, you know what I mean. I think it's

1384
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 13: that feeling of guys want to be on a unit

1385
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 13: like permeage throughout the building and guys are coming up

1386
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 13: to us, like even Shelby Harris and man like, put

1387
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 13: me in a position to get a block, like those

1388
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 13: guys want to be at the point of attack. And

1389
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 13: Shelby got a block in that. I forgot which game

1390
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 13: it was, and yep, there you go.

1391
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 6: Jesse game.

1392
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 13: He wanted to be in that position and then bub

1393
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 13: and I put him in that position and he literally

1394
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 13: got a block on that play. So guys want to

1395
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 13: be on a unit and they want to make plays

1396
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 13: and it's a good feeling and that should carry over

1397
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 13: into our next season as well.

1398
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 3: So you enjoyed this season, Oh.

1399
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 21: Yeah, it was. It was a good season, for sure.

1400
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 21: It was a great season. It was in many ways.

1401
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 21: It was a very magical season. And now for you,

1402
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 21: obviously with this special teams unit, you got some recognition

1403
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 21: and opportunity to be the special teams coordinator for the

1404
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 21: West team in the East West Shrine Game.

1405
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 3: How did that come about? And tell me about that experience.

1406
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, first of all, the experience was great.

1407
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 13: I got a chance to connect with a lot of

1408
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 13: different coaches from around the NFL. I got a chance

1409
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 13: to implement how I would install a special teams unit.

1410
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 13: I got a chance to talk to the players and

1411
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 13: be with them firsthand and go through the teaching progression

1412
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 13: of Okay, this is punt, this is punt.

1413
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 6: Return, this is field go this field, go block.

1414
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 13: So it was a great experience for me just talking

1415
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 13: to an entire unit, implementing my plan and then going

1416
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 13: out and seeing them execute it.

1417
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 6: So it was definitely a great experience.

1418
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 3: No names please, but did you find some like gems

1419
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 3: that you or you're gonna go maybe pound the table

1420
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: for because the Anthony Bell came via coach Jeff Howard

1421
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 3: from the swash Trinan game a few years ago. Is

1422
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 3: there somebody, there's some Is there a Stephen Bravo Brown,

1423
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 3: like you got a few favorites.

1424
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 13: There's two guys that come to my mind right away.

1425
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 13: I will not say their names, but there's two guys

1426
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 13: that come to my mind right away.

1427
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: That's awesome, and that's kind of one of the person

1428
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 3: of it, not only for you to get to coach,

1429
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 3: but it is an advance for this organization as well

1430
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 3: that you're like, no, look, I've seen it. This guy

1431
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 3: he can do it for sure, for sure.

1432
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 13: And I think like if anyone has any opinions on

1433
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 13: anything or they want my opinion on something, just being

1434
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 13: able to work with those guys firsthand and being in

1435
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 13: meeting with them and on a practice field with them

1436
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 13: is definitely like beneficial for us because you know, I

1437
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 13: got the firsthand experien So anybody ask any questions.

1438
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 3: Come to me, come to Steven Bravo Brown. What's up?

1439
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 3: Bubba Ventrone comes in and you've been here since twenty twenty.

1440
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 3: So you're with coach Prief for obviously a venerable special

1441
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 3: teams coordinator, and then Bubba comes in, who had been

1442
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 3: very very good obviously in Indianapolis. Obviously that's a change

1443
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,520
Speaker 3: for you, even though your role stays the same. How

1444
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 3: was kind of that transition and what was it like

1445
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 3: working with Bubba?

1446
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 13: Yeah, so when I first came in, initially I was

1447
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,360
Speaker 13: on defense, so I was working with Joe Woods and

1448
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 13: I worked with him for two years. Then I had

1449
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 13: to transition to working with Prief, and then this year

1450
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 13: I transitioned to working with Bubba.

1451
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 3: And you started in the league if I'm not saying

1452
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 3: with the receivers or your first coaching job maybe college, okay.

1453
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 13: On every side of the ball, but transitioning from Prief

1454
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 13: to Bubba specifically, I think it's just I think it's

1455
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 13: just different because Prief like played, I'm sorry, Bubba played,

1456
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 13: you know, and he has a personal like connection with

1457
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 13: someone who's played and someone who's coached it, you know

1458
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 13: what I mean. So I think the guys looked to

1459
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 13: him in a certain way because he's on it himself,

1460
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 13: and then you know, he'll throw on his game film

1461
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 13: and you'll see this, this white dude flying down the

1462
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 13: field one hundred miles an hour, you know what I mean.

1463
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 13: So he has like a different vantage point than a

1464
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 13: lot of other coaches because he's done it at a

1465
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 13: high level for ten years.

1466
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.

1467
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 3: So it's just he still looks like he could do it.

1468
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 6: I think he can. I think he can.

1469
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 13: I'll give him a run for my money as far

1470
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 13: as like sprinting wise, like we'll go toe for toe now,

1471
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 13: But he could still he could still run.

1472
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 3: For sure, He's still jacked. I thought one of my

1473
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 3: favorite moments of the entire season was I'm pretty sure

1474
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 3: it was the night we clinched against the Jets and

1475
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,720
Speaker 3: Stefanski has given his post game victory speech and he

1476
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 3: looked around the room, he got all the players there,

1477
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 3: and there's Bubba in a helmet, which is it's so Bubba,

1478
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 3: It's so it is, it's the essence of Bubba.

1479
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 13: It was awesome, for sure. But Bubba still wants to play.

1480
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 13: Let me just he still wants to play. So him

1481
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 13: putting the helmet out doesn't surprise me.

1482
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 3: Where you guys laughing at you guys him about that a.

1483
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 6: Little bit oh yeah, Oh yeah, I'll give him trash

1484
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 6: ford a little bit.

1485
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 3: So I thought he was gonna wear it to the

1486
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 3: playoff game down there in Houston. All right, So you

1487
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 3: have kind of had this journey you mentioned coming in

1488
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 3: D defensive side, special teams, special teams, started receivers in

1489
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 3: your first coaching job. Ever, do you have a passion

1490
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 3: for anything in particular or is it just you love

1491
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 3: coaching and you're getting to learn so much about, you know,

1492
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 3: an organization and all the different aspects that go into

1493
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 3: all three phases.

1494
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's a good question. I think so

1495
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 13: my goal, my end goals to be a head coach.

1496
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 13: I think that if you look at some of the

1497
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 13: best head coaches in this league historically have been guys

1498
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 13: that have been on offense, defense, and special teams, you

1499
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 13: know what I mean. So I think it's something that's

1500
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 13: hard to do. It's great that I'm getting this experience

1501
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 13: to do it. I eventually want to be a head coach,

1502
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 13: and whatever path takes me to being that route is

1503
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 13: what I want to do. But right now I'm just

1504
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 13: accumulating as much knowledge as possible and it has been

1505
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 13: really beneficial for my career.

1506
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, and also in special teams, you get a chance

1507
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: to work with guys from both sides of the ball

1508
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 3: that are part of your unit. So that's one of

1509
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 3: the few areas that where you can touch both sides

1510
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 3: of the ball in an NFL team.

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Speaker 13: One hundred percent. And that's one thing I really enjoy

1512
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 13: is like I know every player. I know the kicker,

1513
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 13: I know the quarterback, I know every defensive player, every

1514
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 13: offense player, and they know me, you know what I mean.

1515
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 13: So it's a good feeling to have a personal connection

1516
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 13: with everyone on the team.

1517
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 3: Speaking of kickers, Dustin Hopkins had obviously a phenomenal season

1518
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 3: in Cordable works can absolutely boomball. He had a great

1519
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 3: season as well. We were talking about on the show.

1520
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 3: You know he get in the off season he started

1521
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 3: to kind of look back and some of the great

1522
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 3: kickers and you look at, you know, guy like Morton Anderson,

1523
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 3: who's in the Hall of Fame. You look at Adam

1524
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 3: vin Terry, who's you know, considered if not the best,

1525
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 3: Justin Tucker right there. You look at the percentages of

1526
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 3: field goals that used to be made by the guys

1527
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 3: who are the best to ever do it. And then

1528
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 3: you look at now, what has changed? I mean, we're

1529
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,479
Speaker 3: all still human beings. How people have gotten so much better,

1530
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 3: especially from fifty plus. I mean it's not even comparable

1531
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 3: to what it was even ten years ago. What's happened?

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01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1533
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 13: For one, just speaking on Dustin, I think he's a

1534
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 13: great human. He's a great person. Yeah, he's the lead,

1535
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 13: He's great to be around. I love Dustin. I think

1536
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 13: that as far as and I don't want to like

1537
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 13: make something up, but like technology wise, so for example,

1538
01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 13: like in practice, we use something called like track Man,

1539
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 13: and as soon as you hit the ball, it gives

1540
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 13: you the ball all speed, the elevation that exactly like golf,

1541
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 13: the exact TRACKMN is golf, and you get like instant feedback. Okay,

1542
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 13: this is what I gotta do, This is what I

1543
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 13: did wrong, and you fix it right then and there,

1544
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 13: like it's instant feedback, Like we don't have to wait

1545
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 13: to go into the film room, you know what I mean.

1546
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 13: So I think using that this year for that guy

1547
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 13: along with me and Boba giving him advice on like

1548
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 13: all those you know, reinforcements are instant feedback, and that

1549
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 13: he can make an adjustment right away in practice, you know,

1550
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 13: what I mean. I think just technology alone has helped

1551
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 13: these field goal percentages go up.

1552
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 3: In my opinion, it's because it's wild and even the

1553
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 3: Super Bowl you certainly saw they set the record in

1554
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 3: the first quarter. Then they set the record in the

1555
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 3: third quarter for the longest field goal ever made in

1556
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,519
Speaker 3: Super Bowl history. I think they made a fifty five

1557
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 3: to fifty seven and a fifty three d hop. It's

1558
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 3: funny though you came, you know, not the knock on him,

1559
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 3: because there was he was a very successful kicker, but

1560
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,520
Speaker 3: that it was kind of like inside of fifty automatic

1561
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 3: over fifty, we'll see, and then he comes here, doesn't

1562
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 3: miss from fifty plus and made so many big kicks,

1563
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 3: even going back to that Indianapolis game, had a couple

1564
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 3: of bombs in that one.

1565
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 6: Yep.

1566
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 13: I think for and really just anybody sometimes a breath

1567
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 13: of fresh it can be like good for you, you

1568
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 13: know what I mean. I don't know what the situation

1569
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 13: was in LA, but him coming here and really like

1570
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 13: sparking his career because he was already good, but doing

1571
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 13: what he did last season going into next year, like

1572
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 13: he has a chance to like make the Pro Bowl,

1573
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 13: be All Pro, and be a Hall of Fame kicker

1574
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 13: if he continues on this trend.

1575
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 6: In my opinion, yeah.

1576
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 3: There's no doubt. You watch the Super Bowl. I did,

1577
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 3: so there was either a special team coordinators nightmare or

1578
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 3: dream in that game. Right, eight points in the second

1579
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 3: half directly attributa to special teams and probably the biggest

1580
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 3: reason why the Chiefs won that game. When you were watching,

1581
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 3: the one goes off the heel, you don't see that

1582
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 3: very often, but I know everybody has calls get away.

1583
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 3: What was kind of going through your mind from as

1584
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 3: a as a fan and then also as a coach

1585
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 3: being like because if that happened, that's a devastating situation.

1586
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 13: Yeah, so and Bubba and I were talking about this,

1587
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 13: but like that in that specific situation, like they just

1588
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 13: stopped the Chiefs. They have all the momentum. The Chiefs

1589
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 13: are punting the ball back. I think they only had

1590
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 13: six points at that at that time in the game.

1591
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 13: Really right, wrong or indifferent? Like we teach our returner, Hey,

1592
01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 13: if a ball is short or if it's mishit, like

1593
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,560
Speaker 13: you have to run to the spot. You have to

1594
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 13: wave your hands and the entire stadium has to know

1595
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 13: this is where the ball is. Landing and everyone gets

1596
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:14,960
Speaker 13: the heck out of the way, you know what I mean.

1597
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 13: I think the returner that situation just pointed to the ball.

1598
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 13: The corner has no idea of where that ball is.

1599
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 13: You have to run to the spot and once he

1600
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 13: sees you running and waving, everyone gets out of the way,

1601
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,600
Speaker 13: and that's how you avoid that situation. But it's just

1602
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 13: unfortunate for them. But like those plays change the game,

1603
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 13: you know. I think on the next play they scored yes,

1604
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 13: and then that's all she wrote, you know what I mean,

1605
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 13: Like the game was over at that point.

1606
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 3: He scored, then the Niners scored it and then blocked

1607
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 3: extra point. And those those feel like they always come

1608
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 3: back to haunt you and you miss an extra point.

1609
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 3: It feels like that always is going to play a.

1610
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 13: Role, for sure, And that's why it's so important just

1611
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 13: to take advantage of every single opportunity you have on

1612
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 13: the field, you know what I mean.

1613
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 6: Especially on special.

1614
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 13: Teams, the players are so limited and like if something

1615
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 13: goes wrong, it's so amplified because it's one of thirty plays,

1616
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 13: you know what I mean. So you almost have to

1617
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 13: play a perfect game on special teams, right, whether it's

1618
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 13: fair or not fair. You almost have to play a

1619
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 13: perfect game, and that's why it's so crucially it always

1620
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 13: goes back to your fundamentals, and.

1621
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 3: Those are game changing plays. We had one, I think

1622
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 3: Matt Adams forced to fumble and Ford recovered it. Those

1623
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 3: are game changing plays when you're able to make those,

1624
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 3: and that's what you want for such teams. You want

1625
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 3: nobody to talk about special teams unless it's we did

1626
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 3: something good.

1627
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 13: And then, like you said, as game changing plays. Every

1628
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 13: time there's a special team's take away or turnover, you're

1629
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 13: automatically in plus territory right away. That's the biggest difference

1630
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 13: with like takeaways or turnovers on special teams, you're automatically

1631
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:31,879
Speaker 13: in the red zone if it happens.

1632
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 3: So A, right, I have a question for this is

1633
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 3: something that came up on one of my buddies sent

1634
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 3: this to me on Twitter, just kind of a this

1635
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 3: is out of left field, but it has to do

1636
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 3: with the Super Bowl we just watch. So the overtime rules. Now, right,

1637
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 3: both teams get the ball. There's been all this debate

1638
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 3: should you take the ball first, should you take the

1639
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 3: ball second? Somebody put out there and I thought it

1640
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 3: was interesting I didn't agree with it, but I thought

1641
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 3: it was interesting. You win the toss, you say we're

1642
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 3: gonna kick, and you do an on side kick because

1643
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 3: there's some percentage that you would recover it. And if

1644
01:14:57,439 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 3: you do that, then all you have to do is

1645
01:14:58,560 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 3: go take that get a field goal. In the games

1646
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 3: over there, they never get to touch the ball, they

1647
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:03,840
Speaker 3: recover it. If they score, you still at least get

1648
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 3: a possession, and you know what you have to do.

1649
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 3: You can't lose it right there. So I liked it,

1650
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 3: but I said, look, you would have to be confident

1651
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 3: that there is at least a ten percent chance you're

1652
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 3: going to recover the on side kick. I feel like

1653
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 3: that's at least a minimum threshold, and then you'd have

1654
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 3: to feel pretty good that no matter what we do,

1655
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 3: we're going to be able to get three points and

1656
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,520
Speaker 3: we get the ball on offense. What's the real possibility

1657
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 3: on an on side kick? What would you in that situation?

1658
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: What would you if the coach said, look, do you

1659
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 3: think we can get what would you be saying?

1660
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 13: Well, for one, I don't think anyone in America would

1661
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 13: be expecting an onside kick in that situation. So the

1662
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 13: surprise effect is probably one hundred percent. For two, I.

1663
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,160
Speaker 3: Just don't listen to this interview next time we're in

1664
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 3: when we're in the super Bowl, everybody for two.

1665
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 13: I think the percentage of getting an on side kick

1666
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 13: is so low. I'm not saying it's impossible, because it's

1667
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 13: possible to do it, but the percentage of that happening

1668
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 13: is so low. But that's an interesting point because the

1669
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 13: only negative I see of that is if the other

1670
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 13: team recovers the ball, they're damn there and field goal.

1671
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 6: Right, it's automatically, it's automatical. Three points.

1672
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,680
Speaker 13: Now you're trying to hold you you're trying to hold

1673
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 13: them from scoring seven. And if they scores seven, like now,

1674
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 13: you're really up against the wall. So I don't know

1675
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 13: if the risk is worth the reward.

1676
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 3: That's one to me that feels like, if you do

1677
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: it and it works, you're the smartest person that's ever lived,

1678
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 3: and if you it doesn't work, you're idiot. Yeah, like

1679
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 3: complete idiot. All right, when we get you out of

1680
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 3: here on this one, what's something you want Browns fans

1681
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 3: to know about you? Just about either your journey, who

1682
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 3: you are as a person, something interesting, because you know,

1683
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 3: we know you're on the coaching staff, and you know

1684
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 3: this is a league where you know about the top

1685
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 3: coaches and the coordinators and then you get down in

1686
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 3: the minution those who are really into it get to know.

1687
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 3: But this is about human beings coming together, rowan in

1688
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 3: the same direction for a common goal.

1689
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 6: Right.

1690
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 3: So, what's something when people now hear Steven Bravo Brown,

1691
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 3: what's something that you want them to think?

1692
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:50,639
Speaker 13: Oh, that's a good question. Okay, I would say for one,

1693
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 13: and I don't know if there's answers your question.

1694
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 6: I just think the.

1695
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,639
Speaker 13: Guys that we had on staff last year, for one,

1696
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 13: like we all were hard workers.

1697
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 6: We all work together really well.

1698
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 13: We all worked really hard to accomplish a goal, which

1699
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 13: is winning the super Bowl, but we made a playoffs,

1700
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 13: you know what I mean. I think we have a

1701
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 13: collective guys. In myself, like, I'm a team player, I

1702
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 13: work hard and I want to win. Those are those

1703
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 13: are things that come to mind when I think of

1704
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 13: what I want people to think of me. I'm a

1705
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,759
Speaker 13: team player, I work hard, and I want to win.

1706
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,720
Speaker 3: And we're happy. You're a Cleveland Brown. Stephen, thank you

1707
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:20,479
Speaker 3: so much for the time.

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01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 6: I appreciate it. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: right now, Let's get to offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey's introductory

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Speaker 2: press conference. Here's part two of that meeting with the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland media.

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Speaker 6: You talk about.

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Speaker 1: Kishon field for the outside game. Do you think he

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Speaker 1: has a feel for protecting himself?

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Speaker 11: Can you help him with the look? I think all

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Speaker 11: these guys are so competitive. I mean, look, I've been

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Speaker 11: through this a few times now, you know, and and uh,

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Speaker 11: these guys are so competitive. They want to win. Deshaun

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Speaker 11: wants to win, you know, and he's going to do

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Speaker 11: anything humanly possible to help this football team win games.

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Speaker 11: And sometimes that's going you know, putting putting your body

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Speaker 11: on the line to do. So now what we got

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Speaker 11: to do is make sure we're evaluating when we're doing

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Speaker 11: those things. You know, is it is it first down

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Speaker 11: and we're scrambling, we got a first down already, Get

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Speaker 11: get down, get out mounts, you know, and save yourself

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Speaker 11: the hit and those types of things. You know, those

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Speaker 11: are all things that we'll look at because clearly, like

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Speaker 11: this this team is is at a different level when

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Speaker 11: he's on the field, and and that's the that's the

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Speaker 11: thing that you know, we want to do as a

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Speaker 11: as a staff is make sure we're communicating to him

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Speaker 11: and him communicating with us kind of what he's feeling,

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Speaker 11: what he's seeing, and making sure we're doing, you know,

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Speaker 11: everything possible to keep him healthy.

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Speaker 22: And how much of team had some issues this year

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Speaker 22: with fall security and turnovers, and obviously I know you

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Speaker 22: guys kind of had similar issues in Buffalover at least

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Speaker 22: part of the year, Like what's your philosophy on having

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Speaker 22: a quarterback who likes to improvise, maybe take chances in

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Speaker 22: that offense and.

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Speaker 11: Fall security us by as because we just literally had

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Speaker 11: an offensive staff meeting. That was one of the factors

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Speaker 11: that we talked about. You know, we have we have

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Speaker 11: some critical factors on offense. You know that that I

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Speaker 11: believe in and I think you know, Kevin believes in

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Speaker 11: them as well. You know that that we talked about

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Speaker 11: this morning, and and one of them is protecting the house.

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Speaker 11: So you know, I mean we we we as coaches

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Speaker 11: and players, right, we pay our mortgage by winning and

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Speaker 11: you know, winning football games. And so you know, in

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Speaker 11: order to do that, the best way to win the

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Speaker 11: foot win games is to protect the football and make

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Speaker 11: sure we're doing the right thing. So however, that's got

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Speaker 11: to get done. We got to get done, and to

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Speaker 11: your point, wasn't good enough in my time and for

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Speaker 11: a stretch there in Buffalo and then you know, for

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Speaker 11: us us here. Uh so that will be a point

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Speaker 11: of emphasis for us to make sure we're doing the

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Speaker 11: right things to you know, protect the football. And you know,

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Speaker 11: from a offseason emphasis standpoint.

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Speaker 23: One of the defensive the offense has been the offensive

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Speaker 23: line here and you know, one of the key concepts

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Speaker 23: has been, you know, using guards to pull and get

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Speaker 23: to that second and third level of the defense is

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Speaker 23: is you know with uh, you know, to change a

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Speaker 23: no line coach, do you bring those same philosophies here.

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Speaker 22: Is that something you want to keep continuing.

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Speaker 16: Doing or do you feel like, you know, the the

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Speaker 16: blocking up front and the techniques that you want to

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Speaker 16: employ will will different.

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Speaker 11: Well, I mean, first and foremost, I mean you can't

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Speaker 11: get help help it get jacked up about this opportunity

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Speaker 11: because of those guys up front, you know, I mean

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Speaker 11: those guys are you watch them on tape and you

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Speaker 11: can't help but get excited about the guys that we

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Speaker 11: got up there and and what they're able to do

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Speaker 11: because they're they're diverse in what they can do. To

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Speaker 11: your point, you know, they you got a group of

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Speaker 11: guys that can pull. You got a group of guys

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Speaker 11: that can be you know, zone blocking scheme guys. You

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Speaker 11: got a group of guys that could come out and

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Speaker 11: give movement at the point of attack and gap schemes

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Speaker 11: and duo schemes. So uh there, that's the exciting part

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Speaker 11: for me in terms of scheme moving forward. I think

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Speaker 11: that's why it's so important. And the thing I respect

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Speaker 11: about this organization and and Kevin the Moth is how

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Speaker 11: thorough they are in making these decisions. Like I mean, uh,

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Speaker 11: it was it was darn near like a root canal

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Speaker 11: to get this job. Now, I mean you go through

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Speaker 11: a lot, you know, testing, of interviews of I mean,

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Speaker 11: I met more people in this this building than I

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Speaker 11: have in any building ever been in just in the

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Speaker 11: interview process, which is awesome, like as a as somebody

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Speaker 11: coming in like that's what you want. So that's that's

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Speaker 11: been the that's the exciting part for me in this

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Speaker 11: process now of being a part of this of hiring

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Speaker 11: an offensive line coach, is there's an intentional way of

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Speaker 11: going about it and the way we're doing it because

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Speaker 11: let's face it, like to Kem's point, like Bill is

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Speaker 11: is is one of the best out there. So in

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Speaker 11: order to replace him, we've got to make sure we're

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Speaker 11: intentional with how we're doing it and making the decision

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Speaker 11: that's in the best interest of us as a football team.

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Speaker 11: And in that regard, then when we do make that hire,

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Speaker 11: obviously there's an evaluation process there that he has to

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Speaker 11: go through because he's the one coaching it and teaching it.

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Speaker 11: And but to your point, I think in offensive football,

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Speaker 11: all right, how are you successful? Let's evaluate what our

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Speaker 11: players do well and make sure we're maximizing that.

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Speaker 14: Haven't there would Ken when you looked at you said

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Speaker 14: you had it was like getting your group now getting

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Speaker 14: for the peer. How much of I guess how many

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Speaker 14: take did you watch it?

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Speaker 16: DeShawn and the Browns?

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Speaker 14: I mean, I'm just kind of curious, like from from her,

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Speaker 14: how much would you prepare for this well?

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Speaker 11: I mean, yeah, as somebody going in for a job

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Speaker 11: or interview, you want to make sure you're prepared as possible,

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Speaker 11: you know, and that was a great opportunity for me

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Speaker 11: to be able to watch the tape and things like that,

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Speaker 11: you know, But obviously in the short amount of time

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Speaker 11: you have to get ready. You know, it's it's hard,

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Speaker 11: you know, because it's it's one of those things where

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Speaker 11: things happen fast, you know, in the in the process.

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Speaker 11: You know, at the end of the season about.

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Speaker 14: This, des where it is going to go this or

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Speaker 14: you're looking at this, A couple of things jump out

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Speaker 14: about to Shawn that maybe you're just sort of aware

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Speaker 14: of or whatever that really caught your eye.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I think we've all talked about, you know,

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01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 11: obviously the you know physical steel scent in which he

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Speaker 11: has that, that's the first thing that jumps out at you.

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Speaker 11: But and then on top of it, you know, when

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Speaker 11: you're watching tape, and again I wasn't involved in the

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Speaker 11: offense in the past, so but when you watch it,

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Speaker 11: there's little intricacies of the position of whether he's adjusting

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Speaker 11: protections or making checks at the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 11: things like that that you know, you really see kind

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01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 11: of pop up. So just from the outside looking in,

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Speaker 11: the ability to kind of handle the offense and do

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Speaker 11: different things, I think is pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: Played in this division, but it doesn't change much.

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Speaker 11: No, Yeah, do you think this this winning in this

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01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 11: division requires a different running game than Buffalo or Carolina? Well,

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Speaker 11: I think I think that, uh, in this division right

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Speaker 11: at the end of the day, there's there's definitely some

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Speaker 11: uh some carryover into into you know, one, you've got

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Speaker 11: to obviously protect the football because we're playing great defenses.

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Speaker 11: And then two, yeah, you've got to be able to

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Speaker 11: be multiple and how you're attacking these defenses too. So

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Speaker 11: you know, when you're playing uh uh, you know, Pittsburgh

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Speaker 11: and Cincy and and and Baltimore twice a year, you

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Speaker 11: might have to evolve from game one to game two,

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Speaker 11: whether it's running the ball, whether it's throwing the ball,

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Speaker 11: on how you're attacking them. But to your point, look,

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Speaker 11: at the end of the day, I think, you know,

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Speaker 11: there might be a misic inception out there. Like I think,

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Speaker 11: I think that you know, to be able to you know,

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Speaker 11: sit there and and and be able to you know,

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Speaker 11: put pressure on a defense by running the balls is

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Speaker 11: a darn good thing too. You know, it's it's there's

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Speaker 11: there's there's nothing wrong with uh, you know, scoring points

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Speaker 11: by running the ball. There's nothing wrong by scoring points

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Speaker 11: by throwing the ball. It's okay, Well, what's gonna what's

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Speaker 11: gonna allow us to win a football game this week?

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Speaker 11: You know? And and yes, there's gonna be things where

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Speaker 11: we have core identity type of things. And again that

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Speaker 11: evolves as the season goes on and as you you

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Speaker 11: get them go through camp and whatnot. But I think

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Speaker 11: that you know, you've got to be able to as

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Speaker 11: good as the this division is and as good as

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Speaker 11: those teams are on defense, we got to make sure that,

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Speaker 11: you know, we're attacking him in different ways.

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Speaker 15: Recently said he does not like scripted plays. So my

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Speaker 15: question is, then you know, do you have a conversation

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Speaker 15: with him about that. How do you address the fact

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Speaker 15: that he doesn't like that? And what can you do

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Speaker 15: about a quarterback that doesn't like scriptifically?

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Speaker 11: No, that's a great question, I think one you know,

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Speaker 11: as a as a coach and player relationship, there's some

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Speaker 11: things that are non negotiables, you know, where it's like, look,

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Speaker 11: this is the way we're doing it, you know, and

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Speaker 11: and I understand like if you you know, there might

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Speaker 11: be some pushback, but this will help us at the

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Speaker 11: end of the at the end of the day, this

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Speaker 11: will help us win football games. And then there are

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Speaker 11: some things that you know, you communicate with them. I mean,

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Speaker 11: there's some you know, there's a what what are you

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Speaker 11: comfortable with? Where where are you at with this? You know,

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Speaker 11: because there's the you know, the factor, yes with the

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Speaker 11: if he feels comfortable with it. But then there's also

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Speaker 11: a whole offense you gotta consider with that stuff as well.

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Speaker 11: So you know, there's some things that we'll go through

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Speaker 11: and say, hey, you know, if you're not comfortable, we

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Speaker 11: won't do it that way, you know. Or there's some

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Speaker 11: things that hey, look, this will help us be better

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Speaker 11: on offense. We will do it this way. But there's

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Speaker 11: conversations to be had with you know, in that regard

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Speaker 11: down the line in terms of that we're not quite

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Speaker 11: there yet.

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Speaker 3: You know, there will.

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Speaker 11: Definitely be conversations of things like that down the line,

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Speaker 11: but you know that's that's step seventy five or so

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Speaker 11: and we're on step five, you know. So, But yeah,

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Speaker 11: I mean, obviously if it's if it's something that he

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Speaker 11: has a conviction about, then we'll talk about it and

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Speaker 11: make sure we're doing the right thing for us as

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Speaker 11: an offense moving forward. And obviously a key part of

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Speaker 11: the offense is the quarterback playing at a high level.

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