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Speaker 1: Forward slash Nightcall. It's one two a m. In Rhyme
Speaker 1: City and you're listening to Nightcom. Hello and welcome Tonightcall,
Speaker 1: a podcast for your strange days and lily nights. My
Speaker 1: name is Emmily Oshida. I am here not in Rhyme City,
Speaker 1: but in New York City and with me on the
Speaker 1: other end of the line in Los Angeles, I have
Speaker 1: Molly Lambert and Tess Lynch as well as our special
Speaker 1: guests this week, Dan Hernandez, Hello, Hello, Hello. I'm a
Speaker 1: super fan of the show, so I'm glad that I
Speaker 1: made it here. Dan. It's a friend of Nightcall, and
Speaker 1: he co wrote the movie Detective Pikachu his writing partner
Speaker 1: Benji Sammit, coming out everywhere in May May tenth. We
Speaker 1: are very excited about this movie, so we are very
Speaker 1: good at to have I am so excited for mostly
Speaker 1: for the reasons that Ken Wattanabe's name, his character's name
Speaker 1: in it, is Detective Yoshida, and it's very, very seldom
Speaker 1: that there's a Yoshida in in fiction, like they almost
Speaker 1: never pop up just because like one, Japanese names don't
Speaker 1: pop up this often into for whatever reason that one doesn't.
Speaker 1: So I was very excited, and I think in my
Speaker 1: handle on Twitter was detect detective here for a while
Speaker 1: out of the celebration, and I appreciated that, um no
Speaker 1: one was more pump than than I was. When Ken
Speaker 1: watsonab signed onto the movie because the last the last
Speaker 1: Sumurai was like, yeah, my college go to a movie
Speaker 1: with my friend group from college. So whenever anything good happens,
Speaker 1: we just said they were all They're all perfect. Remember
Speaker 1: when he when he when he finishes his poem, when
Speaker 1: he attains Satri on the battlefield. Yeah, wow, speaking of battlefields,
Speaker 1: Oh look at that. We're gonna talk about a show
Speaker 1: called Game of Thrones. And while while we wait for
Speaker 1: our producers to leave their respective booths, because neither of
Speaker 1: the watched the episode The Long Night, I think Roy
Speaker 1: said he can handle Game of Thrones. He just doesn't
Speaker 1: want a Venger's spoilers, which spoiler There will be no spoilers. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: a movie none of us have seen, but there will
Speaker 1: be spoilers for Game if their owns if you don't
Speaker 1: want them now, but say these are spoilers for the
Speaker 1: episode The Long Night, not whatever episode aired last night,
Speaker 1: which when you're hearing this, we are still living a
Speaker 1: week in the past, so um. But it was a
Speaker 1: big episode. It was a big battle episode, so that's why.
Speaker 1: But at this point, phobic everyone should have been absorbed
Speaker 1: into the monoculture. But there's no be absorbed. I refuse.
Speaker 1: So this is a long standing thing with Molly back
Speaker 1: from Girls and Hoodies, that Molly refuses to be wooed
Speaker 1: by Game of Thron Do not like the show? Be honest,
Speaker 1: how many episodes of the show if you watched at
Speaker 1: least five, and I've seen the pilot more than one time.
Speaker 1: I think it is boring. And you know, I thought
Speaker 1: I didn't like medieval things, but now I've gone to
Speaker 1: the renfair like three years in a row with Jane Murray,
Speaker 1: friend of the Pod, and it turns out I do
Speaker 1: like medieval things. I just don't really like Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Lord of the Rings? Also
Speaker 1: don't like it. I feel like there's too much c
Speaker 1: g I, and like New Zealand is already very beautiful,
Speaker 1: and the obsession with like let's make the sun set
Speaker 1: perfect every time is insane. Well not to a man's
Speaker 1: plain to you, but the c g I is actually
Speaker 1: quite minimal in the load of the rings that use
Speaker 1: a lot of bigotures and pactrical effects in it. But well,
Speaker 1: surly kind. Another friend of night Call claimed to me
Speaker 1: that Game of Thrones was not really a fantasy show.
Speaker 1: It just has dragons, and the dragons are awesome, but
Speaker 1: it doesn't does have dragons, Melissander, there's the Lord of Light,
Speaker 1: there's all of her magic, there's um the White Walkers
Speaker 1: obviously called magic. Yeah, magic is exceptional when it happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some people have magic. Yes, some people have people have magic,
Speaker 1: but when it happens, it's it's it's near miraculous. And
Speaker 1: by the way, Emily's man's planning voice was sort of
Speaker 1: just my internal monologue. So I feel a little, well
Speaker 1: damn comfortable. We have a authority. Dan has read all
Speaker 1: the books. Oh damn, I've only seen I've only only
Speaker 1: read one of them. I read the first one and
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I got it. I enjoy watching
Speaker 1: it as a show more. But I might go back
Speaker 1: and read them someday. I don't know. I tend to
Speaker 1: do the deep dive on anything that I get excited about,
Speaker 1: so I absorbed them immediately. And you know, it's a
Speaker 1: sad thing that the last book came out the year
Speaker 1: that I moved to Los Angeles, which I think was
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. So I've been waiting anxiously for the
Speaker 1: you know, for the last book. But I spent my
Speaker 1: time on the Wiki of Ice and Fire. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm ready. I'm prepared. But I will say when
Speaker 1: I got to the show today, uh, there was already
Speaker 1: tension in the air surrounding and they were already fighting
Speaker 1: about Game of Thrones when Dan approached us to say, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm here to do. The point was just that, well,
Speaker 1: by the way, I love that tests you were on
Speaker 1: the anti side back to these days, and since then
Speaker 1: you have crossed over. She crossed over, but she's going
Speaker 1: to fight with you now about anarist Look, I I
Speaker 1: don't I don't hate Gnaris at all. I did say that,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, Denarius is the least interesting kind of
Speaker 1: main character. I had to catch up on this show,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't fun catching up on the show because yeah,
Speaker 1: well we were talking about muck bangs a minute ago.
Speaker 1: Like it was like I was like, gotta get through,
Speaker 1: and she doesn't remember. People are in season one she does.
Speaker 1: She look bangs that horseheart remember, yeah, okay there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's touched on everything. So it's any kind
Speaker 1: of reference that you make to anything. There is probably
Speaker 1: a Game of Thrones example, I I warmed to it.
Speaker 1: I don't find that you'd have to be team Denarius
Speaker 1: or team Santa. Personally, I was saying, only one person
Speaker 1: can win. You see that. It's not you do have
Speaker 1: or Team Santa because they can't both. They both don't
Speaker 1: want the same thing though. It's just act, but one
Speaker 1: of them is going to have to die. It's a
Speaker 1: battle royale. It's not necessarily in last night's episode, which
Speaker 1: is now you know, many episodes in the past because
Speaker 1: of the wonders of time traveling podcasting. We'll get to
Speaker 1: the timeline theories. Yes, but I mean Santa was legitimately
Speaker 1: hiding in the crypt while Denares was fighting on the dragon.
Speaker 1: I gotta say Denies dropped the ball a couple of
Speaker 1: times he was fighting on the dragon. Yeah, she was
Speaker 1: fighting on the dragon. That happens the first five episodes.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, she was like you mean she was riding,
Speaker 1: she was like punching. Although there was some dragon on
Speaker 1: dragon battle as well could have been better. That was
Speaker 1: the part of the episode that I liked because it
Speaker 1: looked the most like a heavy metal album cover, and
Speaker 1: I was totally this is my ship. I love it.
Speaker 1: The blue flames coming out of the white dragon. I
Speaker 1: think all the dragons look cheap. They look like Xena.
Speaker 1: It looks like it looks like Dungeons and Dragons, like
Speaker 1: the cover of like the manuals for Dungeons and Dragons.
Speaker 1: I love it like Dan is wearing a Dungeons and
Speaker 1: Dragon shirt. It's so cool. It's like and made out
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Speaker 1: but Molly, you've only watched the first five episodes. You
Speaker 1: feel it's hard to do of a general I just
Speaker 1: don't care for sword and Sandal though, But it's not
Speaker 1: all that there are only sandals once you get to Dorn.
Speaker 1: And it's true, actually she doesn't even know what dor is.
Speaker 1: I have lodged the complaint many times that I don't
Speaker 1: understand why it takes place in like a British colonialist universe.
Speaker 1: It doesn't though, it takes place in the whole world,
Speaker 1: Like there's a place in many different universes. I'm so
Speaker 1: aware of the man's planning voice. But um, it's based
Speaker 1: on the historical War of the Roses. Yes, well why
Speaker 1: not just make something about the historical war dragons. But
Speaker 1: everybody's right, but everybody is all It's like, well, it's history.
Speaker 1: That's why everybody's white. It's like, yeah, but there's dragging.
Speaker 1: Not everybody's white. And they actually why are they British?
Speaker 1: They're not all British. They speak in many different languages.
Speaker 1: And the interesting thing is that it really like now
Speaker 1: that you have people from one part of the world
Speaker 1: that have landed in this other part of the world.
Speaker 1: It's basically like northern England or Scotland, and they're like
Speaker 1: from the equivalent of you know, the Middle East, Like
Speaker 1: there's a tension, like there's a there's a differentness, Like
Speaker 1: it definitely adjusted. What if you made a show about
Speaker 1: like real world history instead of like, yeah, they haven't
Speaker 1: show about real world history where people start being stopping
Speaker 1: for light about the show about like some people who
Speaker 1: live in a house in King's Landing. Yeah, that's coming,
Speaker 1: I watch it. Well, Well, one thing about last night's
Speaker 1: episode that like, so I I got, I got completely
Speaker 1: like carpet bombed, but is I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: the correct term, but like by Diners fans, because like
Speaker 1: this show has gotten to the place where people really
Speaker 1: identify with these characters, like they are political figures. And
Speaker 1: I made a joke about dinner Dinners is comparative worthlessness
Speaker 1: last night and like really really like I woke the
Speaker 1: dragon as they say, um, and I thought that was
Speaker 1: fascinating because like last time I was doing anything about
Speaker 1: the show, like writing about it, I don't feel like
Speaker 1: the level of discourse was at this level. And in
Speaker 1: some time in the last couple of years, it's gotten
Speaker 1: it's gotten insane uh yeah, yeah. I also got attacked
Speaker 1: by Game of Thrones fans for suggesting that if they
Speaker 1: like really tedious, complicated mythologies, they check out local politics
Speaker 1: as an impartial observe. I'm watching Emily and Molly fight
Speaker 1: a battle on two fronts last night on Twitter, but
Speaker 1: I can't help but feel that you, Molly must have
Speaker 1: known what was about to happen. Was complimenting them. I
Speaker 1: was saying, it's very impressive you can keep track of
Speaker 1: these boring storylines and fake people. Imagine if you applied
Speaker 1: this uh a breath of paying attention to you can
Speaker 1: You're the person who always says you can pay attention
Speaker 1: to more than one thing, you are. I totally and
Speaker 1: like I have also said, like it's just Game of Thrones,
Speaker 1: Like I can pay attention to like a boring, hard
Speaker 1: to explain plotline if it's like on mad Men or
Speaker 1: some show that I like, you know, I'm like trying
Speaker 1: to explain it to somebody. It totally sounds boring, but
Speaker 1: I care, or like vander pump Rules, I'm like, this
Speaker 1: person is more important, you know, cares about this person
Speaker 1: more than they care about them. But I think Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones fans have. It's just weird how people who
Speaker 1: like the things that are the most popular get so
Speaker 1: mad at you for like being like, oh, I don't
Speaker 1: like this thing that you're like you, how dare you?
Speaker 1: And the same thing is too with like Marvel Hives.
Speaker 1: And that's what's scary about it is I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what are these movies doing for you? Really? Like? So
Speaker 1: there's to argument, which is one that like let people
Speaker 1: like things things, which I think is stupid, Like I
Speaker 1: think anything can be criticized, and like I don't, I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't really I'm saying it's like High Life fans
Speaker 1: don't like attack say like you should die if you
Speaker 1: didn't see Highlife yet. And I do want to see
Speaker 1: High Life. That's the movie. I'm excited about it. But
Speaker 1: I think it's all like a byproduct of these things
Speaker 1: were so marginalized for so long because it's culture has
Speaker 1: been dominant for like the twenty years. It's not marginalized
Speaker 1: like superhero movies have been the dominant for like everything
Speaker 1: is for twelve year old boys only. And it's like
Speaker 1: if you say, like, actually I'm not super that's not
Speaker 1: what I'm super into. People are like how dare you
Speaker 1: not like I don't think less about nerd culture, not
Speaker 1: like being newly ascendant, because it's not really newly anymore.
Speaker 1: But I feel like like it's like you are now
Speaker 1: able to curate the communities and the people and the
Speaker 1: taste of the people that you surround yourself with to
Speaker 1: a t. So when you're like, when you do have
Speaker 1: an opposing viewpoint across your your awareness, it feels not
Speaker 1: even opposing water like like some of it's like feels
Speaker 1: game or gaydy where it's like like, the worst I
Speaker 1: ever got attacked was for being like, wouldn't it be
Speaker 1: nice if G t A had a female character once?
Speaker 1: And that everybody was like fuck you. Yes, they were like,
Speaker 1: I hope you get raped and died. I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't even I like the games. That's the whole
Speaker 1: thing I'm saying is that I like the games that
Speaker 1: I would just once like one of the prostitutes that
Speaker 1: you like, have an interaction with, to be the main
Speaker 1: character that I played, because it would be fun and
Speaker 1: like do something new with the games here. I will
Speaker 1: always I will say this about Game of Thrones, and
Speaker 1: this is like and and maybe maybe if tests or
Speaker 1: Dan you have differing experiences, like please please chime in.
Speaker 1: But the reason that I like Game of Thrones, and
Speaker 1: I think kind of also the reason why people have
Speaker 1: this very um strong reaction to this is that, like
Speaker 1: I I personally, I am a masochist. So when I
Speaker 1: start watching something like the first episode of Game of Thrones,
Speaker 1: which makes zero sense to me and I don't know
Speaker 1: who anybody is or what they're talking about, my instain,
Speaker 1: if it's at all interesting to me, is to like
Speaker 1: put myself through it and figure it out and learn
Speaker 1: who all the dumb little characters are and like look
Speaker 1: at a map and ship like that's my nerdy Like
Speaker 1: I don't like to look at a map. I I
Speaker 1: totally agree with to get through it though, then it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've I've gone through all of this, I've done all
Speaker 1: the things, and now it's again. It's like if it's
Speaker 1: the wire, if it's something I'm interested in, or I'm like,
Speaker 1: I do want to find out what happens in this world,
Speaker 1: I just like fundamentally do not want to spend time
Speaker 1: in a medieval world because it just seems horrible to me. Well,
Speaker 1: I think I think there's two things I do agree
Speaker 1: that nerd culture has been a Senate for a long time.
Speaker 1: But I also think that what is remarkable about Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones, at least when it was first written, was
Speaker 1: that it was such a subversion of what the expectation
Speaker 1: was that now people feel like they're a part of something.
Speaker 1: Don't you think the show is not as much of
Speaker 1: a subversion as the books are. I think that the
Speaker 1: first season was pretty shocking to people who weren't familiar
Speaker 1: with it, and so once you throw a lot of
Speaker 1: rape in it that wasn't in the book. They were
Speaker 1: liberal with their rape. To see the trap in the
Speaker 1: show that wasn't really put me off. On the first season,
Speaker 1: I was like, I hate this because they always are like,
Speaker 1: it's medieval times, everybody's getting raped all the times. And
Speaker 1: again I'm like, there are dragons, you can do whatever
Speaker 1: you want in this made up world. This is what
Speaker 1: you're choosing to show. They definitely lean into that, and
Speaker 1: that was I think, maybe not, I mean it was
Speaker 1: it was pretty put me off the show. And again
Speaker 1: it's like I thought, I just hated medieval stuff, and
Speaker 1: then I saw Pulver Hooven's flesh and Blood and I
Speaker 1: was like, no, it's just I guess what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say is I think there's like a deeper levels.
Speaker 1: The Pulver Hoven version is more chilling than what I
Speaker 1: like about. What I like about Flesh and Blood is
Speaker 1: it really leans into how horrible medieval times were, and
Speaker 1: it's like it doesn't romanticize it in any way. It's
Speaker 1: just the same thing. It's just like it's a different style.
Speaker 1: But I think they people want to live in Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones. I don't want to. I think that people
Speaker 1: like with the g t A with Game of Thrones.
Speaker 1: I think that any time that you get turned onto
Speaker 1: something that is seemingly like underground, even though in this
Speaker 1: case it is the least underground thing ever anymore, I
Speaker 1: think that initial that like vitriolic response is like how
Speaker 1: dare you attack the thing that like I am cool
Speaker 1: enough to like fuck you? And I think that that
Speaker 1: is in anything game or gay comics gate whatever like. So,
Speaker 1: I I do understand like the fandom of this is
Speaker 1: is oftentimes really hard to even again, I just feel
Speaker 1: like it's Game of Thrones. I don't think it's maybe
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's Marvel too. It's like anything that's right,
Speaker 1: But it's these things that are so popular. Again, it's
Speaker 1: like people who like Succession don't like tweet me, and shit,
Speaker 1: if you're like Succession. Most of my involvement with the
Speaker 1: show that has not been like talking to people online
Speaker 1: about it, Like it's been watching the show and like
Speaker 1: looking at this wicky of ice and fire, like I
Speaker 1: don't like I'm not on the boards for this one,
Speaker 1: you know, like I find my own enjoyment of it.
Speaker 1: I've decided to like enjoy the show in my own way,
Speaker 1: so like it doesn't really matter how fans are talking about.
Speaker 1: To wrap up this segment, let's talk about who everyone's
Speaker 1: voting for, I mean rooting for. Maybe I'm voting for
Speaker 1: who's a democracy? Who's everybody rooting for in the Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones to win? Well, I I defer to Emily
Speaker 1: and Dan. I mean I don't really I'm not rooting
Speaker 1: for anybody, Like it's not really the competitionship for Sercy.
Speaker 1: I mean, thank you expectedly et. Okay, so you guys
Speaker 1: are on the same side we are. I just feel
Speaker 1: like Denares Denares did find in the battle last night.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying, is that I can't doctor Nearest
Speaker 1: for having for ordering her dragon Baby to scorch everybody
Speaker 1: they all wear on the show. Oh my god. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're moving on because back in the booth, no more spoiler.
Speaker 1: You got to know who Dan is voting for. I
Speaker 1: will do this no spoilers, but I my vote for
Speaker 1: the Iron Throne is Santa. I think that she is.
Speaker 1: I want Sansa for Warden of the North. There's like
Speaker 1: a VP, it's it's so called. How can you begin? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to It's hard to even talk dialogue with
Speaker 1: you because you know what I'm saying. Like, imagine if people,
Speaker 1: if you could just is Sansa the Ginger she wanted
Speaker 1: to ginger? You should like her. She's fantastic. I love
Speaker 1: It's very dry. If mad Men had maps, would you
Speaker 1: examine the mad Men maps? Like, oh, don Draper's apartment
Speaker 1: is I'm not good with maps. Generally maps are a
Speaker 1: week kind of just have to be inclined. Like Actually,
Speaker 1: George R. Martin wrote the first chafter the book and
Speaker 1: sat down and was like, I need to make a map.
Speaker 1: No hold up, I need a map. Don't like risk,
Speaker 1: give me a good map. A map? Fan too, I'm
Speaker 1: very excited talk about anyway. Okay, the film Event of
Speaker 1: the Summer. Is there a map of of Rhyme City?
Speaker 1: Is there a geography? Is it in the Alola regions?
Speaker 1: It's in its own region, that is not you know,
Speaker 1: it's Rhyme City. It's kind of its own unique place. Um,
Speaker 1: there's not a formal map, although I did draw myself
Speaker 1: a map when we were in the process of writing,
Speaker 1: just to kind of keep some of the the very
Speaker 1: Game of throne s complexity as we were writing. Um.
Speaker 1: But yes, so the pokey versus not poke a verse
Speaker 1: is not unlike of Thrones in a way. I mean
Speaker 1: there are so many like compelling characters from different regions.
Speaker 1: Like it's you know, yeah, that's something that are dragon
Speaker 1: like because there's like the plant creatures and the water creature.
Speaker 1: There's so many types. It's psychic types. Of course, this
Speaker 1: is like a Game of Thrones. I would care about
Speaker 1: with everybody in a Game of Thrones with You're gonna
Speaker 1: love this movie Forgotten Pokemon us for people who are
Speaker 1: interested in, um, what's it called? Like taxonomy's less than
Speaker 1: like geography, and and you definitely more like that more
Speaker 1: taxonomy than geography. You really like biospheres, you will love Yeah,
Speaker 1: we are you love the creb cycle. We are a
Speaker 1: generation biosphere, we are for sure. So tell us about how,
Speaker 1: like how you came to be involved with again the
Speaker 1: film event of the summer at least if Testa's children
Speaker 1: are to be believed, and they are like my number
Speaker 1: one Hollywood pundits. At this point, I forgot my Detective
Speaker 1: Pikachu card at home. My husband was like, please get
Speaker 1: Dan to sign this and have him just pretend that
Speaker 1: he is Pikachu. I was like, I could just sign
Speaker 1: it and be like, this is Pikachu. Like, no, you
Speaker 1: won't believe that at all. But yeah, how did this happen?
Speaker 1: How did this come together? Basically, my partner Benjie Samon
Speaker 1: and I had done a movie for the people that
Speaker 1: now run Legendary and when they were in the process of,
Speaker 1: you know, getting the rights to this movie, and you know,
Speaker 1: they really were very eager to to to get it
Speaker 1: rolling out. They were like, who are the biggest nerds
Speaker 1: that we know? Put out the call for them. We
Speaker 1: need them, um, And we kind of were in the
Speaker 1: right place at the right time, and you know, as
Speaker 1: it happens, my Pokemon knowledge was, you know, fairly robust.
Speaker 1: Get to brush up on your Pokemon. I did. I
Speaker 1: definitely had to brush up. And I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the thing is like when we were young, I think
Speaker 1: we're all around the same age. You know, there were
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty, you know, and then every time
Speaker 1: that there's a new generation of Pokemon, there's another hundred
Speaker 1: or so that get added. And so by the time
Speaker 1: that I'm sitting down to write this movie, there are
Speaker 1: over eight hundred, and now there's close to a thousand,
Speaker 1: and so there was a point in the process of
Speaker 1: writing this movie where I have what's called the Poka decks.
Speaker 1: It's like the Wiki of Ice and Fire, except in
Speaker 1: book form. I have a Pokemon encyclopedia one hand and
Speaker 1: the keyboard in the other hand. I'm going, gosh, if
Speaker 1: only there were some kind of bioluminescent mushroom, I don't know,
Speaker 1: flip the page. Oh well, that's perfect. If only there
Speaker 1: were some kind of Pokemon that were like a key.
Speaker 1: Why would we need a key that That one isn't
Speaker 1: ultimately in the movie, but you know, there were just
Speaker 1: anything that you can imagine there is a type and
Speaker 1: like they've thought about it, and it exists and it
Speaker 1: has two evolutions, and so it became a process of curation.
Speaker 1: There's so many of these things. How do you sort
Speaker 1: of get to which ones are going to be in
Speaker 1: the movie or which ones can't even sustain? A movie
Speaker 1: I saw made the cut Jarsard had to make the
Speaker 1: cut because that's one of the original Like, O, G, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was saying, Wait, did Giggli Puff do it?
Speaker 1: What's really mean? In the trailer? Jiggli has definitely got
Speaker 1: an attitude in the trailer. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: necessarily envisioned that exact thing when we're writing like it,
Speaker 1: I actually love it. You know. He is a good
Speaker 1: super Smash Brothers character to play well. Interestingly, Smash Brothers
Speaker 1: was like a real entry point for me because I
Speaker 1: was a little bit older than I think the height
Speaker 1: of the Pokemon craze, where if I had been two
Speaker 1: or three years younger, I probably would have really been,
Speaker 1: you know, deep in it from day one. But because
Speaker 1: of video games and because of like funnily enough, internet culture,
Speaker 1: you kind of had to brush up and get to
Speaker 1: know these different characters. Like Sid Duck is my personal favorite,
Speaker 1: Oh by far? Why far? Because side Duck is the
Speaker 1: premise of side Ark for those you know, He's a
Speaker 1: little duck that has psychic abilities, and if he gets
Speaker 1: too stressed out, he has a psychic explosion and could
Speaker 1: kill everyone. So they constantly have to keep side up,
Speaker 1: Calm side Uck, calming music. They have to, you know.
Speaker 1: But for a long time on this forum, I used
Speaker 1: to go on all the time something awful. Uh. One
Speaker 1: of the little emojis that they would use was just
Speaker 1: sid Duck grabbing his head for that sort of became
Speaker 1: synonymous with like, what the hell, what the fun is this?
Speaker 1: And so I always thought it was just so funny,
Speaker 1: and so one of the first things that when we
Speaker 1: came on board, we said, sid Duck is clearly the
Speaker 1: comedic breakout of these of all of these pokemon, why
Speaker 1: because he was neurotic to begin with, you know. And
Speaker 1: so as a comedy writer, I was like, well, we
Speaker 1: want all the pokemon that like have comedic quirks and stuff.
Speaker 1: Let's put those guys in the movie right away so
Speaker 1: that we can actually, you know, kind of build story
Speaker 1: around them and stuff. So that was my thought process
Speaker 1: as I approached it. Do you have any of the
Speaker 1: like super powerful like Archias and Evltall and all those
Speaker 1: those people. I'm not at liberty to reveal the power
Speaker 1: level of the Pokemon you guys know about Archias. Archias
Speaker 1: is like Pokemon, but it's like God and it has
Speaker 1: a thousand arms and it created the world and it
Speaker 1: can destroy it. Veltall Evel Tall is like, correct me
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, dam But it's like kind of like
Speaker 1: the evil Archias who comes and he's like the destroyer.
Speaker 1: He's like I was super powerful. I had no idea
Speaker 1: that this level of like intensity existed within the pokey world,
Speaker 1: Like there is a there is a cosmology, there is
Speaker 1: a super turned into Evan Galleon while we were I mean,
Speaker 1: I would love that. And then there's like Lunala and yeah,
Speaker 1: you should write the next one. You seem to know what.
Speaker 1: I was lobbying heartily for this conversation to include Dick
Speaker 1: Tracy and Two Framed Roger Rabbit, because those are two
Speaker 1: of the movies I remember being very excited about as
Speaker 1: a kid, and I was trying to remember, like, why
Speaker 1: were we all very excited about Dick Tracy? What a
Speaker 1: weird thing to be excited about? It wasn't that you
Speaker 1: read the comics or anything. I did read the comments,
Speaker 1: and I was a weird nineteen fifties culture consuming read
Speaker 1: the kid. Yeah, in fact, Tracy is one of my
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't say hobbies, but like I'll go deep. Well,
Speaker 1: I learned that Batman was based on Dick Tracy, that
Speaker 1: it was like inspired by Dick Tracy, which made so
Speaker 1: much sense to me because I'm always saying Batman is
Speaker 1: a cop, and it was like, oh, he literally is
Speaker 1: based on Dick Tracy. He is a cop. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you look at the rogues gallery of Dick Tracy,
Speaker 1: which is as as good as it gets, you can
Speaker 1: sort of see where and each of them have sort
Speaker 1: of like a very like simple like shoulders has large shoulders,
Speaker 1: the brow has got a big brown faces face, you know,
Speaker 1: like but it's but it's like very but they're very
Speaker 1: grotesque in a Wayskin in the movie, it's so gro tesque.
Speaker 1: I just bought they just did a Dick Tracy reboot
Speaker 1: comic that I just bought a copy of Golden Apple
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, Dick Tracy, it's in the air.
Speaker 1: But also it was the first Disney comic book movie.
Speaker 1: I go pretty deep up on these things, and I
Speaker 1: have an archive of toys and stuff. So I actually
Speaker 1: was going to bring you each a mint in box, uh,
Speaker 1: Steve the Tramp figure, but I couldn't I couldn't find them.
Speaker 1: But I did bring this. So do you remember this
Speaker 1: controversy at the time. I have the rest of these
Speaker 1: guys in my car. That is amazing. Dan just brought
Speaker 1: out a Dick Tracy figure. So Molly, this will actually
Speaker 1: appeal to your interest, which is at the time, there
Speaker 1: was a big stink because there's this character that is
Speaker 1: from the comic Steve the Tramp, and he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's like a homeless bad guy. But they made this
Speaker 1: figure Steve the Tramp, you know, homeless rights activists and
Speaker 1: people were like, this is such a negative portrayal. This
Speaker 1: is so unacceptable. So this figure at the time, in
Speaker 1: the like the consumerists, you know, like early nineties, became
Speaker 1: very valuable and that's why my I bought like five
Speaker 1: of them in the box. So I was gonna I
Speaker 1: have for each of you a mint in box Steve the'sing,
Speaker 1: but it's it's lost. My mom moved from Florida and
Speaker 1: so she basically shipped me like every I'm like a collector.
Speaker 1: So I have the stuff in a literally in a
Speaker 1: tent outside of my house, and I so I will
Speaker 1: find you these mint in boxy the trimps. They're not
Speaker 1: worth that much anymore. I should have sold high well
Speaker 1: now that Dick tracy Mania is coming back. But yeah, Also,
Speaker 1: Roger Rabbit seems like a very obvious inspiration for Detective Pikachu.
Speaker 1: I mean that that was the one that I think
Speaker 1: Benji and I were thinking about the most. And I
Speaker 1: think that and by the way, there were other writers
Speaker 1: who worked on the movie, Nicole Prolman, Derreck Connolly, Rob Letterman,
Speaker 1: who also directed the movies. But I do think that
Speaker 1: all of us, when we decided to really actually try
Speaker 1: to tell a detective story, we're very aware of Roger Rabbit.
Speaker 1: And specifically, the things that I like about Roger Rabbit
Speaker 1: are the internal logic of how the tunes function and
Speaker 1: that at no point do they once they establish a rule,
Speaker 1: they are pretty faithful to that. You know, whether it's
Speaker 1: if the Weasels laugh too much, they die, or the
Speaker 1: dip or whatever. It is, like there's an internal logic
Speaker 1: that is sacro sanct and the way that the tunes
Speaker 1: think about things, the way that the tune logic functions
Speaker 1: is really interesting. And so when we're trying to write
Speaker 1: a scene between you know, the main character of of
Speaker 1: Pikachu and like a Bulbastre, you're sitting there going like,
Speaker 1: what does BBS want? What is bulbastres motivation? And by
Speaker 1: the way, the Pokemon Company had a lot of opinions
Speaker 1: about this. It wasn't just like do whatever you want.
Speaker 1: It was like, no, no, Bulbastours behave in a certain way.
Speaker 1: How did they behave? You know, there were certain ones
Speaker 1: where they would say, well, these guys maybe don't team up,
Speaker 1: you know, like, or these guys are not as strategically minded,
Speaker 1: or these guys you know exactly. You know it really
Speaker 1: it really it sounds so it's it was kind of
Speaker 1: a weird experiment in sitting down and going, Okay, what's
Speaker 1: the emotional reality? Yeah, well that's why who Frame Rabbit
Speaker 1: is so yeah, like who framed draw your Rabbit? You
Speaker 1: are so invested emotionally in those characters. And that's another
Speaker 1: thing too, where you're like you're using some things there's
Speaker 1: original characters, but also when they do go to tune Town.
Speaker 1: It's like, who do you you decide to show that
Speaker 1: will flesh out that universe. And I think that movie,
Speaker 1: by the way, still stands up like Super stands up
Speaker 1: a lot. And the fact that Eddie Valiant, he takes
Speaker 1: the tunes very seriously even though he doesn't like them.
Speaker 1: He just it is a part of life that is
Speaker 1: just true to this city and this this version of
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I think it is like that. I always
Speaker 1: thought it was Los Angeles, or maybe it is Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: I can't, but I remember it's the it's the it's
Speaker 1: the trolley line that you know, is the whole cruxim
Speaker 1: there is a real reality to like, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: a city where if you go to the coffee shop
Speaker 1: there could be a tune there, and that that's just
Speaker 1: no one is really that put out by It's also
Speaker 1: about gentrifying tunes out of tune Town to put the
Speaker 1: freeway through it. It is very like ellen history centric.
Speaker 1: It's like there's this great neighborhood that it's right the
Speaker 1: historic you know, tune restaurants. Yeah, like we're going to
Speaker 1: tear it down to put the freeway through it for progress. Also,
Speaker 1: like the idea of like a self loathing tune is
Speaker 1: as the villain is ingenious and terrified, terrified. It's a
Speaker 1: very scared Did you show tested you show your kids
Speaker 1: who framed Roger Rabbit, they would be so yeah, I
Speaker 1: was kind of scared of who framed super scared, but
Speaker 1: that's what makes it good. I would be terrified. They
Speaker 1: just saw beetle Juice, which scar No. I was never
Speaker 1: that afraid of beetle Juice, and they were. They loved it,
Speaker 1: but they were also like petrified, And I think it's
Speaker 1: because Beetlejuice is He's never really the bad guy movie,
Speaker 1: whereas Judge doom Is dips the Little Shoe and was
Speaker 1: the most traumatic thing that's ever happened. Juice as scary
Speaker 1: as Judge do. I actually think Beetlejuice is a really
Speaker 1: utopian portrait of the afterlife, which will get to later.
Speaker 1: But I was like, they look great. They can sleep
Speaker 1: in the air, they can just love it, take it
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt them. They can push their faces around. How
Speaker 1: great would that be? I think of a million opportunities
Speaker 1: a day when I could use It's very reassuring that
Speaker 1: there is a there is a handbook of the debt.
Speaker 1: That's what it's like. There's a serious bureaucracy. We all
Speaker 1: like fantasy bureaucracy. It's true. I love I love, I
Speaker 1: love a good form. I love a good I love
Speaker 1: a good map. That's where Molly and I differ. I guess,
Speaker 1: but I was just like one of mundane story Like
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Speaker 1: a night email this week coming to us from Eric.
Speaker 1: Eric writes Miss Lambert, Miss Lynch, Mr Rashida. If you
Speaker 1: guided the dead to the afterlife, what would your aesthetic be?
Speaker 1: Do you go with a classic like the Grim Reaper
Speaker 1: or the Death Coach or something fresh? Do you tailor
Speaker 1: it to each soul? That's uh, that's from Eric again.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Eric. This is a really good question, and we,
Speaker 1: you know, we started to get into it. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Tim Burton Beetlejuice afterlife aesthetic is definitely like a
Speaker 1: very timeless afterlife aesthetic, at least in the history of cinema.
Speaker 1: Like that's I think it's extremely realistic as well. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like it would be boring. It would be
Speaker 1: a song. You have to take a number, you know,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that you have to go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: You can stay where you are for a long time,
Speaker 1: haunting or not. I think it sounds it sounds right
Speaker 1: to me, but it's not necessarily what I would want
Speaker 1: from the afterlife. I mean, if this is like what
Speaker 1: what exactly would be ideal? I might come up with
Speaker 1: something different. I think my ideal aesthetic would be and
Speaker 1: this is going to sound horrible when I say it
Speaker 1: out loud, but just like, bear with me. It would
Speaker 1: be something between an airport and a nursing home. But wait,
Speaker 1: you have to be old. No, it's just a saying
Speaker 1: like a kind of like a kind of wide space
Speaker 1: with like tiled floors in Venetian blinds, and it's always
Speaker 1: Magic Hour coming through the windows, and they're like, I
Speaker 1: think it's I think you're just know it's like more
Speaker 1: like I don't know if you ever follow or like
Speaker 1: listen to these like vapor wave mixes on YouTube, like
Speaker 1: and they always choose this sort of like nineties on
Speaker 1: a ma looped animation of like the inside of a
Speaker 1: mall with like a shimmering fountain and like this chill
Speaker 1: ass jazz plane, Like I know exactly what that's basically
Speaker 1: that's basically what I'm going for. But I think it
Speaker 1: would be like a long corridor with like an endless
Speaker 1: moving walk away and like the sun is always streaming
Speaker 1: through one side. Like that would be my Is it empty? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's mostly empty. I mean it's a quiet it's like peaceful.
Speaker 1: There's like a fountain. What about you, Dan, what do
Speaker 1: you think? It's a great question. And I've arrived at
Speaker 1: It's Denny's. Didn't you get what are you ordering? It's
Speaker 1: you it's a Moon's over my Hammy forever. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I guess if I were the Grim Reaper s character,
Speaker 1: I would sort of be the sort of like gregarious,
Speaker 1: avuncular waiter, has people kind of figured out where they were.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, the CBS here Haven Haven friended me.
Speaker 1: I think I think I think that's right because I
Speaker 1: find diners to be sort of a weird liminal space.
Speaker 1: And of course I know that's you guys very much.
Speaker 1: You guys esthetics. So I I think I think Dennis,
Speaker 1: I agree, because heaven is twenty four hours, Molly, what
Speaker 1: would yours be? Some sort of green space that's unexpectedly vague.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just came back from Oregon. It's
Speaker 1: like all I can think about is that there are
Speaker 1: places that have water. You know, it's such a good
Speaker 1: aesthetic for the afterlife. In fact, I like started to
Speaker 1: design a D and D campaign around this. One is
Speaker 1: in Portland and downtown Portland. There are all these parks
Speaker 1: that are kind of these constructed cement waterfalls that you
Speaker 1: can kind of they don't I think sometimes some of
Speaker 1: them have water going through them and some of them don't,
Speaker 1: so they're just these like series of steps. But because
Speaker 1: it's Oregon and like tends to be kind of damp
Speaker 1: and mossy, like a lot of times it's just these
Speaker 1: like sort of it feels like the ruins of an
Speaker 1: American city, like it's just moss covered like every structures. Oh,
Speaker 1: I love it makes me feel everything. And okay, here
Speaker 1: is another medival fantasy thing I like. I love legend
Speaker 1: of Zelda. Zelda's great and that like es actually the
Speaker 1: most recent Zelda was really good. Love almost just like
Speaker 1: making like that like a foresty. Can I tell you
Speaker 1: mine that we've been of course? Okay, have you guys
Speaker 1: ever been to one of the restaurants that's like underground
Speaker 1: with the aquarium walls? No where, I feel like I
Speaker 1: went to one maybe at like Epcot that I've been
Speaker 1: in a restaurant like that that is definitely the Florida.
Speaker 1: It was totally Florida. Afterlife is the afterlife as well,
Speaker 1: it's it's a glass bottom submarine. Well, I think it's.
Speaker 1: I think it's one of it has a weird menu,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm going off the Dennis because I'm like,
Speaker 1: what if there were no food? There has to be food.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, it's all like baked alaska and crab
Speaker 1: claws and stuff, and then you're just watching like all
Speaker 1: these fish go by. Yeah, that's pretty good. Actually revolving,
Speaker 1: any revolving restaurant on any tower where the food is
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but you go like the Rainbow Room in
Speaker 1: New York and not that the food is bad. I've
Speaker 1: never been, but I've been to whatever it's called, like
Speaker 1: l A Prime on top of them, Yeah, the Bonaventure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's such a good I mean it's it's incredible,
Speaker 1: Like you don't care that you're paying twenty dollars for
Speaker 1: a shitty steak sandwich. It's just like the best vibe
Speaker 1: in the world that basically feels unchanged from you know,
Speaker 1: the mid nineties. I love it. My wife went to
Speaker 1: Dukes and Malibu in a pot of dolphins swam by
Speaker 1: the giant window, So that sounds pretty good to me.
Speaker 1: I like yours. The best. I think the afterlife is Malibu.
Speaker 1: Fine with that, We'll finally get to live there in
Speaker 1: the afterlife exactly. I like that before we go out,
Speaker 1: do we want to chat about our cryptid fascination? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: We brought Dan on because in part because I was
Speaker 1: tweeting about the song Willy Bully by Sam the Sham
Speaker 1: and the Faris, and Dan, it turns out, is also
Speaker 1: the world's foremost expert on Willy Bully. Dan take it away. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if I'm the world's foremost expert,
Speaker 1: but I will say this a little background. My father
Speaker 1: was going to lead a cryptozoological expedition into the Everglades
Speaker 1: to find the Skunk Ape, very very important cryptod Why
Speaker 1: was this This wasn't just before I was born in
Speaker 1: a hurricane. They had rented the air boats, you know,
Speaker 1: they were ready to go. That have the correspondence between
Speaker 1: the American Cryptozoological Society and my father. Hurricane I believe
Speaker 1: was Hurricane Hugo blew off the expedition and it was
Speaker 1: never mounted. So that's so that's a little background on me.
Speaker 1: And so when I hear Wooly Bully, I recognize that
Speaker 1: as a crypto right away. I got two horns and
Speaker 1: a wooly jaw. What are we talking about here? We're
Speaker 1: talking about the first squatch song that's ever been been recorded.
Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about. They were squatching. I thought
Speaker 1: it was the devil. No, I mean maybe maybe we
Speaker 1: don't know. It could be a crypted too. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the devil falls it. Look, if you saw
Speaker 1: a bath a mat, it would be kind of similar
Speaker 1: to maybe like a skunk ape. But I don't think
Speaker 1: that you would casually have Maddie tell Hattie about a
Speaker 1: thing which is wait, so let's list all the things
Speaker 1: that we know about it, though, just like to be sure, Um,
Speaker 1: two horns that's it, that is possible, or it's woolish
Speaker 1: like there's some wool like substance that it has as
Speaker 1: its coat. Yes, And that its behavior was demonstrable bully ish. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know that there was some threat to the to
Speaker 1: the to the creature itself. Now I have gone even
Speaker 1: deeper on this because in the next verse, Hattie tells
Speaker 1: Maddie forget it, essentially says forget it, don't be l seven,
Speaker 1: let's dance. That sounds like a classic Dana Scully. Oh,
Speaker 1: you didn't see what you thought you saw. Malder. I
Speaker 1: think that there's there's a lot going on underneath the
Speaker 1: wooly Bully. I learned a lot just dance. Yes, you
Speaker 1: know they don't want you to know about the wooly bull.
Speaker 1: Sam the sham had a cat named Wooly Bully, also
Speaker 1: served as the inspiration for the song parent according to Wikipedia.
Speaker 1: And I mean, yes, just truthers who think it's about
Speaker 1: a cat. No, it's according to Sam that I also
Speaker 1: heard people say it was about a wooly mammoth that
Speaker 1: somebody like sees a wooly mammoth. I think wily mammoth
Speaker 1: is actually, in some ways a more compelling theory than
Speaker 1: even the squatch because of the horns. Well I heard
Speaker 1: also don't have what I heard from Maddie. It's wooly
Speaker 1: all over? Is that also there is Maybe it was
Speaker 1: like when the wily mammoth was discovered or something, there
Speaker 1: was like maybe a big find in the press, and
Speaker 1: so it was like a novelty song about a wooly
Speaker 1: mammoth being found. Really, that is what I heard in
Speaker 1: my research. I haven't heard that one, but that's awesome.
Speaker 1: If true because it was to cash in on the
Speaker 1: like wooly Man. This is all the same kind of general.
Speaker 1: Is this a contemporary with the Flying Purple people eater? Like?
Speaker 1: Was there crip? Actually? It actually? But I had a thought.
Speaker 1: I had a thought which I'll post to you guys,
Speaker 1: which is there aren't that many songs about cryptids or
Speaker 1: that even referenced crypt sank though in yes, yes, the
Speaker 1: squawk being the most famous cryptid I think in popular
Speaker 1: have you ever seen a squawks tears? Well? Look at mine? Well,
Speaker 1: look at mine? We need to make a song about
Speaker 1: a cryptid. I think it's what you're saying as mission
Speaker 1: a song about a crypt Have you guys read The
Speaker 1: Fearsome Creatures of the Great what is it of the
Speaker 1: Great lumber Woods or the North lumber There's a book
Speaker 1: that the squawk comes from, and they have like the
Speaker 1: ho Dag they have all of the different cryptids from
Speaker 1: like this particular region that's where Steely Dan got this squawk.
Speaker 1: But I have a you can get a copy, but
Speaker 1: it's like you can only get like the most bootleg
Speaker 1: copy of this book, like cryptid, because they're so regional too,
Speaker 1: they can I pose another thing, which is you know
Speaker 1: that song, the one about Little Talks. It's like, like,
Speaker 1: listen when you whatever. It's like I was really counting
Speaker 1: you guys knowing this song. It's it's like Dana Dans Monsters, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you producer Rachel Monsters and men. So that song
Speaker 1: I thought was very metaphorical. It seemed like she was
Speaker 1: talking to like a metaphorical ghost of a past relationship. No,
Speaker 1: it is literally about a ghost. I found that to
Speaker 1: be less interesting suddenly, whereas the Wooly Bully, I think
Speaker 1: is literally about a wooly bully, and I find it
Speaker 1: more interesting. I agree, it's way more interesting if it's
Speaker 1: a real wooly bully. Feel like a garage rock song
Speaker 1: that you don't really know what it's about. It is
Speaker 1: like the perfect garage rock song. Yeah. I read that
Speaker 1: book once about Louie Louis and how there was like
Speaker 1: an obscenity trial because nobody knew what the lyrics were
Speaker 1: for sure. But it's also because apparently on the recording
Speaker 1: of Louie Louis you can hear the drummer y'all fuck
Speaker 1: when he drops his drumsticks and guess what we just
Speaker 1: earned ourselves in explicit rating. Congratulations hot for TV. Well
Speaker 1: going deep on a song that's sixty years If the
Speaker 1: drumstick drops at Louie, well, we're blowing the lid off
Speaker 1: the Wooly Bully. I also didn't know. I like it
Speaker 1: made sense when I thought about it, but I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're like a Tohano like bar blues band. This is
Speaker 1: cold case Wooly Bully. Well, thank you so much for
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