Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two seventy four,
Speaker 1: Episode three of Dire Dailies Like Guys Day production of
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Speaker 1: O'Brien from the Daily Sigist. I might have wanted to
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Speaker 1: host one of the EPs on this very network, the
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Speaker 1: Jack from the Daily Zeitgeist on Discord, all words capitalized.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, very dad on the Internet energy and
Speaker 1: I wanted to daily I wanted to post Hey, it's
Speaker 1: me from the Daily Zeitgeist. But yeah, I also feel
Speaker 1: weird about posting in there because it feels like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just want to just be like y'all
Speaker 1: do your thing, you know, I just want to be cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want to be cool. Dam Look, I'll say
Speaker 1: posting is inherently uncoyeah. And we've we've heard your takes
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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one
Speaker 1: of our very favorite guests here on the Daily Site. Guys,
Speaker 1: a hilarious and talented podcaster, comedian, writer or Dane Minister.
Speaker 1: Please welcome back to the show. Steve Hernando to be
Speaker 1: here too, wonderful Whites. I'm loving that and I'm loving
Speaker 1: the imagery. Of your thighs, Jackie, I'm whoever did that?
Speaker 1: Praise God? You know we're thinking of him. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of you running for senate. Now, I'm thinking of you,
Speaker 1: asked one of the Kennedy's. Praise God. You always said, yeah,
Speaker 1: you always said I give off Kennedy's energy. But I
Speaker 1: feel like the Kennedy's would really I would have been
Speaker 1: disowned from the family by now. You are the perfect
Speaker 1: You are the perfect future candidate. Now you know you've
Speaker 1: been doing this program for so long. You know what
Speaker 1: a what an abysmal idea it is to run for office? Fine,
Speaker 1: have you thought about it? It's something and you ever
Speaker 1: thought about it? Jack have not. No. I I did
Speaker 1: go to a Ugo Soto Martinez as event and he
Speaker 1: he was talking about what it's like to be a
Speaker 1: candidate for public office and be an introvert. And that
Speaker 1: was the first time I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that would be like that was that was the only
Speaker 1: time I'd ever like put it into my head, and
Speaker 1: I was like I would have to like go like
Speaker 1: shake hands with people, talk to them, and then go
Speaker 1: take a nap in my car from just like the sheer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just draining amount of energy that I would be putting
Speaker 1: into every single thing that they said, well, definitely, definitely
Speaker 1: would be a sacrifice for you. But it's either you
Speaker 1: or the rock. And that's I mean, this can't be
Speaker 1: our two main hopes. But Jack, I believe it is
Speaker 1: you or the rock. All right, Well, I've got to
Speaker 1: start waking up an hour earlier because I was I
Speaker 1: wake up at three in the morning to get my
Speaker 1: work out started, but apparently he gets up at two
Speaker 1: in the morning. I love the psychology of that. They're
Speaker 1: just like, I can't be can't be anyone else awake
Speaker 1: when I start my workout. But I think I also
Speaker 1: missed something, and I guess there was a joke that
Speaker 1: was being referenced when he said get up here, best
Speaker 1: friend to Adele. So I'm sorry that anyone had to
Speaker 1: hear my commentary on the Grammys, a show that I
Speaker 1: a vowedly did not watch and I don't think I
Speaker 1: ever will watch. But I think I also underrated a
Speaker 1: little bit because there was also great footage of speaking
Speaker 1: of introvert energy, Ben Affleck being in the front row
Speaker 1: behind j Low and just like not knowing what to
Speaker 1: do with his hands or body like his entire body
Speaker 1: was my hands. When I walk into a room, he
Speaker 1: was just like what what Like, she's like dancing to
Speaker 1: the music and he has to stand. But he you
Speaker 1: can see him just being drained by the uncomfortable mess
Speaker 1: of the situation. And it's just been doing it for
Speaker 1: so long. You know, you would think that he would
Speaker 1: be used to this kind of thing by now, but
Speaker 1: I guess it's just still wildly uncomfortable to have cameras
Speaker 1: on you that entire time. You know, he must really,
Speaker 1: I I Garrett, I believe that he really does love
Speaker 1: j Lo and it just must be such a pain
Speaker 1: in the ask that his love comes with this, all
Speaker 1: of this show, all of it. Hey, the heart wants
Speaker 1: what it wants, you know, boy, don't I know it?
Speaker 1: All Right, Steve, We're gonna get to know you a
Speaker 1: little bit better at a moment. First, we're gonna tell
Speaker 1: our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today, folks.
Speaker 1: I read a New Yorker article, so that means you're
Speaker 1: gonna hear about that ship. It's about the wealth defense industry,
Speaker 1: which is like the people who go into private wealth
Speaker 1: management and are the reason that the top point one
Speaker 1: percent in the United States have gone from having I
Speaker 1: think seven percent in the seventies of the wealth to
Speaker 1: eighteen percent. So it's a big contributor too inequality in
Speaker 1: the country. And it's one of the most infuriating things
Speaker 1: that I've ever read, just hearing these people talk about
Speaker 1: the world that they exist in, and it's just straight
Speaker 1: up like they're outraged that anyone would suggest taxing their
Speaker 1: their wealth. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: Leonardo Dicabrio has another very young girlfriend, and people are
Speaker 1: doing fun things, gross things to put it into perspective
Speaker 1: on the internet. So we'll talk about that. State of
Speaker 1: the Union is happening tonight. I don't we probably won't
Speaker 1: even talk about that, but I don't know. Here it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a rip roarer in good time. Yeah, is
Speaker 1: that happening? What that's Tuesday? Last second? Yeah, last night
Speaker 1: could happen last night. So I don't know. We're we're
Speaker 1: recording this before, so any major bombshells, I can guarantee
Speaker 1: you did not happen at the at the State of Union.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about trip Advisor getting fooled by fake restaurants,
Speaker 1: so all of that plenty more, But first, big Hern,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history? I was looking at I looked
Speaker 1: through them, and the only appropriate thing to talk about
Speaker 1: is that I was looking for Beyonce tickets. Yes, I
Speaker 1: can't do it. I'm out. I'm out for a concert, Chack.
Speaker 1: When was the last time you went to a concert?
Speaker 1: The last time I went to a concert was it
Speaker 1: might have been the jay Z Beyonce show. Ye? How
Speaker 1: about you? Dan? How about you? I went and saw
Speaker 1: the Lovely Carly rage Jepson at the Greek Theater not
Speaker 1: too long ago. I think it's about a month and
Speaker 1: a half. Oh that's great. I love that. It was lovely,
Speaker 1: it was fun. I'm I'm completely prepared to cash out.
Speaker 1: I lost my ship during the Taylor Swift uproar. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge Taylor Swift fan, and uh I tried to
Speaker 1: get into the first I've seen her three times. The
Speaker 1: shows are always amazing. I I got kicked out of
Speaker 1: the Capital one like pre sale thing, and then I
Speaker 1: just quickly looked at the things, and I looked at
Speaker 1: my wife, and I just went to StubHub and I
Speaker 1: bought Nosebleed seats for four dollars each. Yes, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's not saying I'm proud of your listeners may not
Speaker 1: know this, but I'm an older Latino man. I you know,
Speaker 1: I were a bartending Covina. I've got a face working
Speaker 1: class Filipino and Mexican men all the time and tell
Speaker 1: them the same stories, wildly embarrassing. But I looked at
Speaker 1: my beautiful white wife in the face, and her and
Speaker 1: I have never been to a Taylor Swift concert together,
Speaker 1: and I told her this is the last time we're
Speaker 1: doing anything like this. Forget it. There's no more concerts
Speaker 1: after this, and I paid for that. I looked at Beyonce.
Speaker 1: It's the very exact same thing. You could tell everything.
Speaker 1: You're getting access to pre sales and all this kind
Speaker 1: of ship, and I am simply out there's nothing that
Speaker 1: you can experience. I think at a Beyonce concert where
Speaker 1: it's going to cost you a thousand dollars twift hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: it's just not ever going to be worth it. That
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about it. And I love Beyonce,
Speaker 1: Yeah I do too. It really seems like the whole
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a industry that is controlled by monopoly,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's sucking it up for everyone,
Speaker 1: right like that. That just feels like it's it's really
Speaker 1: made put a sear taste in people's mouth. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: can't do it anymore. So I don't know what the
Speaker 1: future is for the concert industry, but it doesn't bum
Speaker 1: me out not to see the queen, you know, holding
Speaker 1: hands with my beloved, you know, looking into her eyes. Uh,
Speaker 1: singing songs from Lemonade, you know, cheating songs. Yeah, so cheating.
Speaker 1: Why are you so into this? She's just looking at me, crying,
Speaker 1: weeping slowly. I'll never forget when Lemony came out. I um,
Speaker 1: it was on HBO Max for like three hours. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys remember this. And I had
Speaker 1: Chatterbox on my Sunday night show in Covina that I
Speaker 1: was gonna go to. I had an hour to take
Speaker 1: an appos like, let me just start this thing, and
Speaker 1: I was like so taken. Aback. I did cry, for sure,
Speaker 1: but just I just took in the whole thing. And
Speaker 1: I was so deeply moved just thinking about jay Z
Speaker 1: cheating on Beyonce. Yeah, yeah, he funked up. It really
Speaker 1: fun up. I mean, the best thing to come out
Speaker 1: out of all that is that the to find out
Speaker 1: the reason why Solange pushed him in the elevator it
Speaker 1: was beating on him. Is like the coolest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever seen that we have on tape. To have beyonce
Speaker 1: sister beating up jay Z for cheating on her. How
Speaker 1: cool is this? It's great. I feel like that would
Speaker 1: have been a lot of people's responses to hearing that
Speaker 1: he cheated on Beyonce, like it didn't need to be
Speaker 1: her sister. Like I feel like if his homie had
Speaker 1: found it was like what stupid? Yeah, so you are
Speaker 1: going if you will be absolutely not, absolutely not, You're
Speaker 1: not going. I will not. I will. I probably will
Speaker 1: like the day or two of if there's something. I
Speaker 1: hate what I'm about to tell you, but it's it's
Speaker 1: sad everything's gotten so expensive. Dude. I have money. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not rich or anything, but I'm a wildly successful
Speaker 1: neighborhood bartender. I get I get a few commercials a year,
Speaker 1: so that's like a windfall of money. I don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about money. I'm very grateful for that like that,
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, going grows. I do the grocery
Speaker 1: shopping in the family. Every a sandwich. Now if you
Speaker 1: go somewhere, if you go somewhere to pick up a sandwich,
Speaker 1: is twenty dollars out the door. There's all I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just feeling taking advantage of Okay, I'm starting to
Speaker 1: feel like this is too much now. Granted I'm getting older,
Speaker 1: So I wonder if everyone just feels this way, which
Speaker 1: is thought, if the thing is to just talk about
Speaker 1: money like this, but I can't. Yeah, it's it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like they just raised the prices on everything and
Speaker 1: there's nothing to stop them from from doing that. And
Speaker 1: they call it inflation, but it's really just corporations realizing
Speaker 1: that they face no consequences if they just charge more money.
Speaker 1: All they face is more money, which is good like
Speaker 1: that that gives them their friends during their earnings calls.
Speaker 1: Think they call them geniuses for doing that. Ship So
Speaker 1: it's you know, I know there's more complicated dynamics involved,
Speaker 1: but that seems to be the main one. As far
Speaker 1: as I can tell, Sandwich inflation. They're making us for
Speaker 1: a smaller sandwich, which is infury. And I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: we went to a place, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: call it out anyway. It was a fine sandwich, was
Speaker 1: even very tasty. But we spent fifty dollars the other day.
Speaker 1: This is like just walking out with the things and
Speaker 1: you know, hey, well you know, well, how lucky were
Speaker 1: we to spend the fifty That's all I got to say. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what happens when you're a wildly successful the
Speaker 1: ablehood bodgender guys. All right, I have help bill that
Speaker 1: bar for fifteen sixteen years. Now, what is something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? H let's see suffering for your art.
Speaker 1: I absolutely think it's overrated. Let's if we're talking about money.
Speaker 1: I tell everyone, get every comedian, no, get a job,
Speaker 1: get a job, and then do your do your art,
Speaker 1: uh for fun, and don't think about it, don't feel
Speaker 1: bad about it. But do not move to Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Do not move to New York. And you better not
Speaker 1: move to Chicago and think you're gonna get to sign
Speaker 1: the deal that you're gonna sell the script. Granted that happens, okay,
Speaker 1: and it could happen to you too, But get a
Speaker 1: fucking job and enjoy these large cities. By the twenty sandwiches,
Speaker 1: and don't put all this pressure on yourself that your
Speaker 1: art has to be the way you make a living.
Speaker 1: It will only bring you pain. Get get them, get
Speaker 1: a job, get a fucking job. Do your art for fun,
Speaker 1: and don't think that you have to make your living
Speaker 1: from your art and that you're a failure as an
Speaker 1: artist because you that because you have to have a job.
Speaker 1: Do not think that. Get it out of your fucking
Speaker 1: head and you will live a much happier life. Get
Speaker 1: an a m c A List subscription. Okay, go to
Speaker 1: the movies with your friends twice a week and you'll
Speaker 1: feel much happier. I do think suffering for your art
Speaker 1: is overrated. I did go to New York recently, though,
Speaker 1: and uh I do I do want to move there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody's moving in New York. It's very frustrating to me,
Speaker 1: like the comedy scene is dead here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: We're in a rebuilding session. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys know this, but we need people to start open mix,
Speaker 1: we need people who start independent shows. It is very dead.
Speaker 1: And then of course New York back ends. But then
Speaker 1: I remember about this wonderful job I have as a
Speaker 1: neighborhood bartender, and I will never I will never give
Speaker 1: it up because I am as rich as I've ever
Speaker 1: thought i'd ever be just being a working class guy
Speaker 1: to the people. Hell yeah, has anyone ever done like
Speaker 1: a deep dive like or just it would be good
Speaker 1: for like somebody to publish a book that is just
Speaker 1: the side jobs of famous art famous artists like Kafka
Speaker 1: was a I don't know, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: I don't think he was ever a professional writer. I
Speaker 1: think he was like a bureaucrat, like a professional bureaucrat,
Speaker 1: but just like a quick you know, Wikipedia length right
Speaker 1: up of various famous artists and what they actually did
Speaker 1: for a living while they were creating their art, I
Speaker 1: feel like would be very very inspiring. That's a that's
Speaker 1: a great idea. Christ artist. So he was. He was
Speaker 1: a famous carpenter, but on as his side gig, he
Speaker 1: was also like to go around and preach the people.
Speaker 1: You know, I know he wasn't obviously he wasn't a
Speaker 1: good carpenter. We would have heard more exactly the table
Speaker 1: and he's saying this sick ship like incredible, right, just
Speaker 1: the most beautiful word. The carpenter you know, they would
Speaker 1: just call him the carpenter. That would be his thing,
Speaker 1: you know, right, He's just the shitty carpenter. What a hook? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like what if that was like what he was
Speaker 1: ultimately passionate about. He's like, I really wish I could
Speaker 1: just pay pay my way with carp injury. But everyone's
Speaker 1: like no, it's like your carpentry is like solid for sure,
Speaker 1: like it's really good and interesting, but you have this
Speaker 1: whole other thing that, you know, what are what do
Speaker 1: they make it? Back then? Anyways? It's just cables, right,
Speaker 1: there's no shelves. Were their shelves back then. I feel
Speaker 1: like chairs even were kind of a more recent thing,
Speaker 1: like that's what that's why we still think they're so
Speaker 1: fancy that we call like the head of something the chairman.
Speaker 1: That's a chair, that's why. And he famously, yes, famously
Speaker 1: in the Bible he was always reclining, so he was
Speaker 1: they were sitting down to eat. So we don't even
Speaker 1: have chairs were a thing yet, and it's so it's
Speaker 1: strictly tables Jesus the tablemaker. But I do like that
Speaker 1: idea of finding other artists and what their jobs were.
Speaker 1: One good thing about this economic downturn. That's I try
Speaker 1: to tell all my friends is that when everything goes
Speaker 1: to ship we do have there is the possibility of
Speaker 1: very very good art. And so that is what I
Speaker 1: try to tell them as they eat their own hands, right,
Speaker 1: but the art, But the art. Yeah, And I feel
Speaker 1: like America has a very like we don't because there's
Speaker 1: no real class consciousness. People are just that they blame
Speaker 1: themselves or they'll be like, you gotta like rise and grind.
Speaker 1: I'm not working hard enough if I need to, if
Speaker 1: I'm even thinking about eating my hands. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: but go easy on yourself. It's it's tough out there.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is under rated? Two things? Uh? One,
Speaker 1: I've recently bought it. I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 1: had this. It's very it's it's probably wildly popular. But
Speaker 1: have you had the halapinio tabasco sauce? They have it
Speaker 1: at Chipotle a lot. It's green tibec. Yeah, fire, it's incredible.
Speaker 1: I used to just like just get go to Chipotle
Speaker 1: for that. Then I realized I could steal the bottles.
Speaker 1: Then I realized I could just buy the bottles. And uh,
Speaker 1: I love this stuff. Along with saracha. It's like my
Speaker 1: absolute favorite thing. So I buy like three bottles of
Speaker 1: the time, because like you, they only haven't met Ralph's
Speaker 1: a lot of times, but I buy three bottles of that.
Speaker 1: I really really love the saucea if you guys haven't
Speaker 1: had it, it's tangy, it's not hot at all, but
Speaker 1: I love it with my eggs. I love it in salads.
Speaker 1: It's really really good. So I love that and then
Speaker 1: also underrated. I haven't heard anyone talk about this, but
Speaker 1: Trader Joe's started selling these these like flavored soda waters
Speaker 1: with apple vinegar. Have you had these things? No? No, Uh,
Speaker 1: they're they're like a dollar eighty at Trader Joe's. We're
Speaker 1: a soda string fan as well. We had to buy
Speaker 1: them because spin Drift went up. I don't know, have
Speaker 1: you seen the Spindrift nine for an eight pack? Yes,
Speaker 1: they've gone up that high. So we bought a soda
Speaker 1: for a company that is just the easiest thing to
Speaker 1: make yourself, which yes, um, we bought the soda Stream
Speaker 1: and then we tried this yesterday. So with the soda
Speaker 1: Stream high powered, we we love that carbonation. We're going
Speaker 1: on triple. I want Topo Chico style, the carbonation with
Speaker 1: raspb yes, and then I'm telling you if you like
Speaker 1: the funk. It sounds crazy, but the Straighter Joe's gave
Speaker 1: us this idea, and you should definitely buy those Trader
Speaker 1: Jos as well. But apple cider vinegar in your soda
Speaker 1: water is phenomenal. I just love how funky it taste.
Speaker 1: I stopped drinking alcohol a long time ago, so it's
Speaker 1: so interesting. And you're not paying these mock tail style
Speaker 1: prices that they're trying to fucking get us non drinkers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the mock tail, the mocktail menu is has gotten out
Speaker 1: of control. Fifteen dollars for juices. Go after yourself, that's
Speaker 1: all I gotta say, Go after yourself. I just had
Speaker 1: a mocktail that like tasted like the worst beer, but
Speaker 1: it was like so it was more expensive than a
Speaker 1: good but like it was. It was it reminded me
Speaker 1: of like the worst beers that I drank when I
Speaker 1: was drinking, but like I would choke them down because
Speaker 1: they had high alcohol content, and like like we have
Speaker 1: brought that back to you, and arrogant bastard was like
Speaker 1: that they at least ten per centers and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just choking them down. Yeah, exactly, That's what I was
Speaker 1: drink exactly, always always that Whole Foods, checking the alcohol
Speaker 1: content of the of the beer for no reason, just
Speaker 1: I like the taste. Have you had the Athletic Brewery
Speaker 1: brewery beer, Yeah, I don't think I have. No. It's
Speaker 1: all around town. But they also have a um. They
Speaker 1: deliver it to your home I think for just a
Speaker 1: buck or two extra. But it's Athletic Brewing and it's
Speaker 1: they make I p a s they may like blonds,
Speaker 1: and it's the most delicious non alcoholic beer you'll ever have.
Speaker 1: I love this stuff. I get two six packs delivered.
Speaker 1: I think it's like twenty five dollars for the two
Speaker 1: six packs delivered, and I just keep them in there,
Speaker 1: you know, for friends, people who don't want to even
Speaker 1: if they're even if they drink alcohol still in their lives.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people don't want to deal with it on a weekday,
Speaker 1: I keep I take them to the chatterbox. But Athletic
Speaker 1: Brewing is also delicious. When I was when I was
Speaker 1: in New York, I was literally pounding six a night
Speaker 1: like a lunatic six six non alcoholic beers a night,
Speaker 1: just stretching out the night. Yeah, give me a fucking break.
Speaker 1: But you so you're out and doing that. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting another. I'm getting another, n A anyone want
Speaker 1: anything like that? Like I'm still drinking beer. I'm paying
Speaker 1: that much money like a lunatic. But it is delicious
Speaker 1: and athletic brewing. Yeah, great art to great art. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is the beautiful cans. M I love a spicy
Speaker 1: gin your beer. That's my that's my move, real spicy.
Speaker 1: Not all of us canna afford the calories like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, some of us are running from diabetes. Okay,
Speaker 1: running and diabetes as to cut off our foot. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it is sweet. All right, let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll come back. We'll talk about wealth defense. And we're back.
Speaker 1: And this is an article. This is in the New Yorker.
Speaker 1: I think it's called like the Getty Families trust issues.
Speaker 1: We've we've talked about it already because I think Molly
Speaker 1: Lambert might have brought it up because it was how
Speaker 1: she discovered that there's like a getty Ssion child that
Speaker 1: is like a famous experimental artist and like not not
Speaker 1: that great, but shocker. Yeah. But anyways, the there's a
Speaker 1: whole chunk in this article that is about this industry.
Speaker 1: I mean mainly the articles about this industry. That is
Speaker 1: these wealth managers who work for just massive, like generationally
Speaker 1: wealthy families, and they've the industry has grown and gotten
Speaker 1: better and had like very little pushback from Congress to
Speaker 1: the point that it's so like a point they make
Speaker 1: is that there are all these sayings that like American
Speaker 1: fortunes like go from shirt sleeves to shirt sleeves in
Speaker 1: three generations. I don't know what the funk that means,
Speaker 1: but the Japanese version is the third generation ruins the house.
Speaker 1: So it's basically like by the third generation, the wealth
Speaker 1: has done its damage and like they're just so morally
Speaker 1: like bankrupt, like they can't hold onto the fortune anymore.
Speaker 1: And that was kind of a piece of accepted wisdom
Speaker 1: about humanity for a long time. But ever since the
Speaker 1: seventies that has changed to a great degree, and that's
Speaker 1: where we're getting things like the Cokes, Like the Coke family,
Speaker 1: between three and twenty, their family fortune grew twenty five fold,
Speaker 1: from three point nine billion to a hundred billion. Uh
Speaker 1: the Mars family fortune, which I wasn't even aware there
Speaker 1: was like a rich Mars Candy family, but uh, that
Speaker 1: grew by a factor of thirty six to ninety four billions.
Speaker 1: The Waltons I had just kind of taken for granted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course the Waltons are rich, but they have a
Speaker 1: family fortune of two dred and forty seven billion dollars.
Speaker 1: And like, the way that they're able to do this
Speaker 1: like this is this is when their family should be
Speaker 1: shipping away all their money and like losing it all.
Speaker 1: And the way that used to work is because they
Speaker 1: were taxed because they had like immense, immense wealth that
Speaker 1: would be hard to hide and so it would be taxed.
Speaker 1: But that is not the case anymore because of you know,
Speaker 1: these industries, like they have like entire companies that work
Speaker 1: for a family, Like they talked about this one Getty
Speaker 1: family like industry family that manages more wealth than the
Speaker 1: entire hedge fund industry, Like the the whole every hedge
Speaker 1: fund in the world doesn't manages much wealth as this
Speaker 1: one Getty family trust. But like we don't. I guess
Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of the degree to which that this
Speaker 1: had just become a thing where a handful of families
Speaker 1: kind of behind behind the scenes control everything. And it
Speaker 1: really is like there's a detail in here where Gavin
Speaker 1: Newsome's dad is like high school friends with that getty guy,
Speaker 1: and he like managed their wealth for a while and
Speaker 1: then like lo and behold, Gavin Newsom becomes you know
Speaker 1: who he is. So it's like it's just this wild
Speaker 1: thing where like it is a secret network of very
Speaker 1: extremely wealthy people behind the scenes who are connected to
Speaker 1: one another, and they're just quietly protecting, you know, their
Speaker 1: failed sons and just holding on and growing these incredibly
Speaker 1: vast fortunes to the point that now the top point
Speaker 1: one percent owns eight percent instead of seven percent as
Speaker 1: as recently as the seventies. So I don't know, is
Speaker 1: it Like I guess like I kind of knew this
Speaker 1: was happening, but just reading the article really gives you
Speaker 1: some texture of like how how it works. I mean,
Speaker 1: you hate to have this out of stuff like driven
Speaker 1: home super clearly, but it also feels like we've just
Speaker 1: built so many fail safes for money, Like if you
Speaker 1: have enough money to invest in such a way and
Speaker 1: to put it in so many securities and stocks and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, that you're kind of ensuring that the
Speaker 1: you know, the one wild cousin can't go out and
Speaker 1: just buy a seven Bentley's and you know, lose the
Speaker 1: family wealth. I think that, you know, that has to
Speaker 1: have something to do with it where it's just like, no,
Speaker 1: we can just future proof this for enough time and
Speaker 1: have enough lawyers involved that cousin Gregory isn't going to
Speaker 1: blow it on a coke bench. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It feels like we're in another and they do say,
Speaker 1: like that is what they have. They just have all
Speaker 1: these incredibly complex financial institutions or instruments that the money
Speaker 1: is tied up in and shellboards and you know, all
Speaker 1: all these different financial products that are invented. You know,
Speaker 1: this is where when like people graduate from the top
Speaker 1: schools in America, this is what they go into, is
Speaker 1: like inventing these ways to protect really rich families money
Speaker 1: because it's also a great way to you know, build
Speaker 1: your own fortune essentially, and like this the percentage of
Speaker 1: that this is what like a lot of the most
Speaker 1: capable people I went to college went to went into
Speaker 1: and I never really understood what it was, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it makes sense. It's just these families have more money
Speaker 1: than entire industries, you know, like one family has more
Speaker 1: money than the entire headge fund industry. So how much
Speaker 1: money is after this amount of money they have, they
Speaker 1: stopped being human as we know it. I think that,
Speaker 1: I mean truly, I always play around with this number.
Speaker 1: I've asked people, this is what I'm doing shows. It's
Speaker 1: so funny how like regular people are like, ah, that's
Speaker 1: too you know, that's not even like the regular people.
Speaker 1: If you say, all right, you start getting tax after
Speaker 1: this amount of money. Regular people are even very generous
Speaker 1: about this. They'll say, like as much as twenty million
Speaker 1: dollars year million a year. They say, ten million isn't
Speaker 1: that much you I'm telling you. Regular people who work
Speaker 1: at the post office will be like, yeah, right, well, well,
Speaker 1: even with all of that said, our attitude, I think
Speaker 1: America's attitude, from from the richest to the poorest attitudes
Speaker 1: about taxes is so terrible. But it's it's only because
Speaker 1: we don't see anything from those taxes generally, correct, right,
Speaker 1: what you mean, like because the government doesn't. Yeah, I mean, well,
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to say because you know, there was
Speaker 1: this run where the New Deal actually like created a
Speaker 1: bunch of roads and you know, a bunch of the
Speaker 1: things that we're still like that that built out our
Speaker 1: society and that like American society still benefits from. But
Speaker 1: we like for our entire lifetimes, we've been living in
Speaker 1: this world where it's like they, yeah, the all the
Speaker 1: energy and like the smartest people have gone into building
Speaker 1: these people's wealth and like their own instead of trying
Speaker 1: to figure out like smart ways to spend tax money. Essentially, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so the problem is a multi leveled
Speaker 1: like that when we have the original New Deal, I mean,
Speaker 1: our money wasn't going straight to the military like our
Speaker 1: budget is now. And so even when you get regular
Speaker 1: people have this dish taste for taxes because we don't
Speaker 1: I mean, we obviously need a new new Deal because
Speaker 1: we understand that homelessness is only going to get worse
Speaker 1: in this country, especially in the cities, that we all
Speaker 1: need uh medical care for all all of these things.
Speaker 1: But nobody's been able to paint that picture. So rich
Speaker 1: people could say, I mean, I I have friends, are
Speaker 1: old friends, I should say that are Republicans now, and
Speaker 1: they'll say, like, what am I going to just give
Speaker 1: the government my money? What are they gonna do with it?
Speaker 1: And at this moment, I really can't, if I'm being
Speaker 1: honest with myself, I can't look them in the face
Speaker 1: and say like, oh, yeah, you're right, just give them
Speaker 1: your money and then it's just gonna go to the military,
Speaker 1: I guess, and the and the cops. Like so, so,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, so you know, you take that, and
Speaker 1: you know that's obviously not a good thing. But it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like our politicians even have a
Speaker 1: taste for going after rich people and their taxes and
Speaker 1: all these loopholes and all the ship. I have people
Speaker 1: who would identify as Democrats and liberal friends that they say,
Speaker 1: I have to take advantage of these loopholes because they're
Speaker 1: there and it's legal. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: very apt to point out that, like we don't know
Speaker 1: where the money is going because you know, just talking
Speaker 1: about the military really briefly, the the whole spy balloon
Speaker 1: whatever thing that we shot out of the sky. That
Speaker 1: was the first time in f twenty two Raptor has
Speaker 1: hit an air to air target. That's a a hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty million dollar plane shooting a four hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollar missile at a balloon and it's like, hey, guy,
Speaker 1: us our tax dollars at work to make that happen
Speaker 1: because we did it. Everybody we did it just like
Speaker 1: that exactly fu Yeah, but yeah, I mean so the
Speaker 1: overall like what in this article they argue that like
Speaker 1: like we're in another guilded age, right, And the argument
Speaker 1: that one scholar in the article makes is that a
Speaker 1: crash has to happen. Basically that like this is the
Speaker 1: how the attitude of towards taxation works in the country
Speaker 1: is that, like people are skeptical of taxes until like
Speaker 1: the wealthy acquire all the money and people are having
Speaker 1: so much trouble that the society can't function that a
Speaker 1: crash happens. And then you get the New Deal out
Speaker 1: of just a place of like desperation and everybody realizing
Speaker 1: like this ship doesn't work, and then slowly by slowly,
Speaker 1: I mean they granted, the wealthy don't want it to
Speaker 1: be slowly, right like during during the New Deal when
Speaker 1: when Roosevelt was like doing the New Deal, they try
Speaker 1: to overthrow him with a with the U. S. General.
Speaker 1: They tried to do a fascist coup. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it's just bleak to accept that they need to
Speaker 1: funk up so badly that they send a message to
Speaker 1: themselves that a bunch of people like are starving, like
Speaker 1: that we need to starve in order for them to
Speaker 1: accept that what they're doing is fucked up. And like
Speaker 1: it does seem like we get a lot of this already,
Speaker 1: like we're voting for more socialist policies, and but but
Speaker 1: when when people vote towards the left, like the mainstream
Speaker 1: media just works so hard and is like so consistent
Speaker 1: about just hiding that appetite and being like, well, Americans
Speaker 1: are scared of the scared of the edges they were,
Speaker 1: they're more centrist than they've ever been before, and it's
Speaker 1: like no, man, Like the society is moving fiscally and
Speaker 1: socially to the right like has been for our entire lifetimes.
Speaker 1: People don't like that and are trying to push back,
Speaker 1: But it's just everything is controlled by this ivy league
Speaker 1: educated gentry class that treats any solution that doesn't involve
Speaker 1: venture capital backing as like unrealistic or childish, Like you
Speaker 1: have to like speak the language of like venture capital
Speaker 1: in order to be taken seriously by them, and it's
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, it's it's frustrating, and you
Speaker 1: you mentioned the articles, does mention uh that it's but
Speaker 1: these things, this is what happens. This has all been
Speaker 1: happening since the beginning of time, correct, I mean it's
Speaker 1: we haven't been around that long. But it does seem
Speaker 1: like that there is always this upward pressure of money
Speaker 1: in capitalism, right, But I mean, yeah, it's that there's
Speaker 1: definitely been other ways to organize a civilization or society
Speaker 1: that seemed to make people much happier that you know,
Speaker 1: don't involve just people being alienated from their lives and
Speaker 1: you know, feeling dread every every morning and just having
Speaker 1: the horrible, horrible deaths of despair and like all these
Speaker 1: things that we have kind of taken for granted and
Speaker 1: just been like, well, this has to be the best version.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, it actually doesn't. Like there's there's all
Speaker 1: these indigenous civilizations that we just like haven't really bothered studying,
Speaker 1: but like when when you do look at them, they
Speaker 1: had awesome ways, like awesome ideas for distributing wealth, like
Speaker 1: changing who has different jobs on a like annual basis,
Speaker 1: like there's uh ceremonies where like the wealthy are forced
Speaker 1: to live like the least wealthy and the least wealthier
Speaker 1: enabled to live in the homes of the wealthy, or
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just like anything that takes away
Speaker 1: the permanence of this, like that that seems to be
Speaker 1: the thing that ties into this article that other civilizations
Speaker 1: had been very skeptical of, and I think rightly so.
Speaker 1: Is what we're seeing in this article is the idea
Speaker 1: that you permanently get to keep the money, like that
Speaker 1: you permanently if you have like a good stroke of luck,
Speaker 1: you get to keep the winnings from that good stroke
Speaker 1: of luck, because eventually you are going to re tell
Speaker 1: that story to yourself in such a way that it
Speaker 1: was actually because you were you know, you're making a
Speaker 1: billion times more money than everyone, because you're actually a
Speaker 1: billion times smarter than everyone. Is like the story that
Speaker 1: they eventually tell themselves down through the generations, and it's
Speaker 1: it's all total bullshit. Well, I mean the Covina version
Speaker 1: of this, and this truly happens. Like get think of
Speaker 1: three guys right now, is that these guys their dad
Speaker 1: has have construction companies, and they're like staunch Republicans and
Speaker 1: talking about about democratic policies. I'm like, you, motherfucker's have
Speaker 1: not done anything for your bullshit thing. Please tip me over.
Speaker 1: Will not bring up any of this, But I have
Speaker 1: the Democrats talked about I know, once Trump got into
Speaker 1: the office, they were pulled the estate tax. But has
Speaker 1: there been any talk about reinstating the estate tax? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's a bunch of loopholes that haven't been addressed,
Speaker 1: like they they've basically they so they go to this
Speaker 1: like this industry is like meeting, like where where they
Speaker 1: all get together and like talk about what's happening in
Speaker 1: the industry, and everyone's just like this is the best time.
Speaker 1: Everybody like hurry up, make all the money. They haven't
Speaker 1: like Congress hasn't adjusted a tax law in the direction
Speaker 1: of like taking more money from the extremely wealthy in
Speaker 1: thirty five years, and like so they there they also
Speaker 1: write about like there are some signals like based on
Speaker 1: you know that there have been some document leaks that
Speaker 1: have made people very angry and like shamed one politician
Speaker 1: and I think like Iceland or something into quitting. But
Speaker 1: it's it's all very meager in terms of like we
Speaker 1: have this massive problem with inequality. It's like driving a
Speaker 1: lot of the extremism and all all the ship that
Speaker 1: we're seeing and like we we know what the problem is.
Speaker 1: It's just this. This is like buried in some New
Speaker 1: York or article, you know, like there's this massive industry,
Speaker 1: and they also talk about there's a product that they
Speaker 1: have in this industry that is I think called like
Speaker 1: the eyes glazed over product or something something like that,
Speaker 1: where it's just like it's so boring and complicated that
Speaker 1: when we put our money into it, like the vast
Speaker 1: majority of the people like won't understand, right, so they
Speaker 1: just like we get to steal from future generations of
Speaker 1: other people's kids with this product because there when we
Speaker 1: explain how it works, their eyes will glaze over. That
Speaker 1: is an issue that I'm unfortunately all too familiar with.
Speaker 1: There was a time back in the DJ days and
Speaker 1: someone be like, why once you come to my city
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I don't choose what city we
Speaker 1: go to. It's like the agents who it's like, well,
Speaker 1: how does that work? And then you start explaining how
Speaker 1: a show gets booked, and they just stopped caring three
Speaker 1: seconds and it's like, never mind, there's too much information
Speaker 1: here for me to care about this. All right, Well
Speaker 1: that's how it works. I'm sorry. Yeah, but yeah, it's
Speaker 1: the golden age for these people who are extremely wealthy
Speaker 1: families like the Gettys and the Mars, and then a
Speaker 1: bunch of families we've probably never heard of, and the
Speaker 1: you know, financial professionals who who fund them and who
Speaker 1: or who like advised them, like, are all making their
Speaker 1: own fortunes and it's just it's fun. It's a it's can't.
Speaker 1: Can't be the way that things continue on if if
Speaker 1: we're going to have a functioning civilization, Like it's a
Speaker 1: it's a real mess, perfectly upsetting. Yeah, it's perfect. Last May,
Speaker 1: Marvin Blum, a Texas lawyer and accountant, gave us M
Speaker 1: and R for fellow accountants who are figuring out how
Speaker 1: to profit from the influx of wealth that needed protecting.
Speaker 1: Blum told his colleagues conditions for leaving large sums have
Speaker 1: never been better, noting that Congress has not closed an
Speaker 1: estate planning loophole in over thirty years. So yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 1: And the top one percent of taxpayers are responsible for
Speaker 1: of the nation's unpaid taxes. There of course, not the
Speaker 1: ones who are going to be audited, or if they
Speaker 1: are audited, they have the you know, legal and financial
Speaker 1: firepower to like push back and you know tie it
Speaker 1: up in the courts. But they are under under funding
Speaker 1: the US government an annual shortfall of more than one
Speaker 1: and sixty billion dollars. So yeah, and then the other
Speaker 1: thing that's like really annoying slash troubling is that, like,
Speaker 1: so I'll just read this one quote. Tom Handler, Chicago
Speaker 1: tax lawyer who specializes in ultra wealthy clients, told me
Speaker 1: that the political pressure, so this is like in response
Speaker 1: to all these leaked documents and everyone being kind of
Speaker 1: outraged as they see how much money these people are hoarding.
Speaker 1: He says, like the response among the ultra wealthy is
Speaker 1: that it has only generated more business for him and
Speaker 1: his peers. And then he says, most of the high
Speaker 1: net worth client base, they're running for cover. So income
Speaker 1: tax planning has gone up, the state tax planning has
Speaker 1: gone up, asset protection has gone up, And he says
Speaker 1: that his clients feel vilified. Other than the very liberal,
Speaker 1: highly educated intellectual elite, they don't feel guilty at all
Speaker 1: they're angry. So the very rich people who people are
Speaker 1: now like wait, you haven't been paying taxes and like
Speaker 1: generations and like we're all, you know, suffering and having
Speaker 1: to like look at our hand and see a big
Speaker 1: cartoon ham because we're we're hungry like that, like the
Speaker 1: what the fuck? And they get mad that we even
Speaker 1: have the temerity to like question them. So it's I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's a very infuriating article, but I thought
Speaker 1: very enlightening. We will we will link off to it
Speaker 1: in the footnotes for the let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk about Leonardo DiCaprio's girlfriend
Speaker 1: or some ship a joyous yeah, yeah, and we're back
Speaker 1: and yeah. So Leonardo DiCaprio seems to be continuing with
Speaker 1: his I guess it's the reverse car rental company policy
Speaker 1: because he doesn't date women over the age of Like
Speaker 1: it's like once you hit, instead of being acceptable, you're
Speaker 1: now like need to start start looking for other other options.
Speaker 1: According to one source, because people talk to Lee and
Speaker 1: Art DiCaprio's friends and get sourcing on like what what's
Speaker 1: with his policy? Leonardo says that's because that's when his
Speaker 1: girlfriend start looking to settle down, which is, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: but people are pointing out that his newest girlfriend is
Speaker 1: I think she's nineteen. She's nineteen year old model, which
Speaker 1: she wasn't even born when Titanic came out. She wasn't
Speaker 1: from born when Gangs of New York and people are
Speaker 1: doing a great job of illustrating the innate grossness of
Speaker 1: this pairing, in one instance using the Last of Us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that really hit home. Yeah, wow, you're supposed to be
Speaker 1: I'm talking about this relationship between this guy who lost
Speaker 1: his daughter and this girl that he like rescues, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, that's when Leo's dating. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Pedro Pascal's forty seven and in Ramsey is nineteen. The
Speaker 1: girl in the Last of Us, which is pretty much
Speaker 1: on par with what we're working with, or even even
Speaker 1: closer in age than what we're working on working with
Speaker 1: with Leo. David Harbor and his eighteen year old Stranger
Speaker 1: Things co star Millie Bobby Brown have the exact same
Speaker 1: age gap as Leo and Eden. Yeah, so, I don't know, wonderful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he obviously doesn't think of women as people. Sure, I mean,
Speaker 1: but what are we supposed to do with that, like
Speaker 1: he you know, I mean who who? I guess I
Speaker 1: should say, who cares? Right, the six year countdown begins.
Speaker 1: That's what we got. We've got the six year counts
Speaker 1: out until the chart resets. He lets her off into
Speaker 1: the off to pasture and then picks up another nineteen
Speaker 1: year old and then we start Oliver again. What do
Speaker 1: they talk about, like does he does he stay up
Speaker 1: on like what younger general Asians are interested in, or
Speaker 1: is he just like I don't know, man, they you know,
Speaker 1: they're talking about the tickety taka or something and I'm
Speaker 1: just over here. The one thing that we have talked
Speaker 1: about is that he what what is rumored to have.
Speaker 1: Somebody who slept with him said that he likes to
Speaker 1: put on noise canceling headphones and vape weed while having sex,
Speaker 1: which that's that's precious. Yeah. No, I've heard from I've
Speaker 1: heard from a few people, Like first, I've heard from
Speaker 1: one per firsthand account. Yes, he likes to do it
Speaker 1: doggie style. You can't look at him. He's had something.
Speaker 1: And I've heard he watches even he watches porn while
Speaker 1: it's happening too. So the guy has been. He's obviously
Speaker 1: not a real person. He has been like famous since
Speaker 1: he was a child on growing pains. His brain is broken.
Speaker 1: He probably does not possess the ability to form any
Speaker 1: real human connections with anything anyone outside the pussy Posse.
Speaker 1: It is, yeah, so the whatever in this particular instance,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's okay Matt who knows
Speaker 1: what's okay are and this ship, but it just seems
Speaker 1: so it's like so laugh out loud funny that he
Speaker 1: clocks him out at to that nobody. To me, it
Speaker 1: is kind of funny. You think Kevin Connolly is still
Speaker 1: in the pussy Posse? Is he still hanging as? He
Speaker 1: still hanging around. He hasn't done anything forever, but he's
Speaker 1: probably holding on making those calls like hey, so what
Speaker 1: are we doing tonight on TikTok. Every now and then
Speaker 1: he'll pop up. He does have a podcast, well he
Speaker 1: was he oh yeah, podcast. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: it's with Johnny Drama, but I did see I have
Speaker 1: seen things with him talking to I believe his name
Speaker 1: is Doug ellis the creator of Entourage. So he is
Speaker 1: like there is some stuff like that. I personally think
Speaker 1: Kevin Connolly is keeps getting cuter the older he gets.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's doing fine, and he seems like a
Speaker 1: cool guy. I I have an inside scoop that at
Speaker 1: the kid cutty a birthday party last week that Casey Affleck,
Speaker 1: Toby McGuire, and Leonardo DiCaprio are hanging out. And if
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like a frightening crew to anyone, what
Speaker 1: a frightening crew of guys is Casey Athle, Toby McGuire,
Speaker 1: and Leonardo DiCaprio hanging out in a clubtic? The worst
Speaker 1: movie of was just what a frightening crew of guys?
Speaker 1: But you know, because because of how the world works,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, tons of tons of women were
Speaker 1: throwing themselves at them, so um, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell anyone about this. I'm
Speaker 1: sure those women don't. I hope these models are not
Speaker 1: feeling used. I hope these multi daughters of the multi
Speaker 1: billionaires are not feeling used. But but until he starts
Speaker 1: dating a t G. I Friday's like hostness, then I
Speaker 1: have nothing to say about these rich people being together, right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's funny. Yeah, the the model universe. Like I
Speaker 1: just saw a magazine spread We're got We're doing some
Speaker 1: spring cleaning in our house, and it had like a
Speaker 1: spread about Steve Jobs's daughter, a famous equestrian model that
Speaker 1: she hasn't dated Leonardo DiCaprio. Anyways, Now what I'm I'm
Speaker 1: really interested in is trip Advisory. Well, I'm glad you
Speaker 1: brought that. Have you guys on this trip avisor I
Speaker 1: still funk with trip Advisor because I'm an old ass
Speaker 1: man and like, I don't know, it was like one
Speaker 1: of the original lapps. But off that ship we went.
Speaker 1: We did we did one European vacation and got lied
Speaker 1: to so many times, Like I don't trust a damn
Speaker 1: fool trip Advisor ever. Again to the to the degree
Speaker 1: that you just started sounding like Mr T a little bit,
Speaker 1: but it's basically like I don't know, there is so
Speaker 1: the top rated restaurant in Montreal on trip avised Montreal,
Speaker 1: great city to visit, beautiful, you know, probably one of
Speaker 1: the you know, a hot city for trip Advisor, like
Speaker 1: one that they would be paying attention to. It's not
Speaker 1: like it's in like des Moines or something. Although des Moines,
Speaker 1: I'm told as lovely, but you know, it's like Montreal
Speaker 1: is a big tourist destination. Trip Advisor's number one top
Speaker 1: rated restaurant on in Montreal had eighty five reviews, all
Speaker 1: five stars, and it was a complete fabrication. It did
Speaker 1: not exist. The trip avisor page was only taken down
Speaker 1: when the CBC asked trip Advisor for a comment on
Speaker 1: their article. I just this feels like a story that
Speaker 1: we see over and over again that doesn't really get
Speaker 1: called out or like collated with other similar stories. But
Speaker 1: all of these user generated content sites from Facebook, trivivisor
Speaker 1: YouTube are too big for anyone to profitably like moderate them,
Speaker 1: Like in order for them to function well, you would
Speaker 1: need to hire like we, we would need to engage
Speaker 1: in another new deal like the hyper and tactic would
Speaker 1: need to be like so much moderation your platform platform
Speaker 1: make the Internet usable? Do you know how many people
Speaker 1: that would require a lot? Do you? Do you all
Speaker 1: still use Yelp or anything for like restaurant reviews Sometimes
Speaker 1: like a pinch where I'm when I'm like at a
Speaker 1: restaurant and I'm like, what what's a what do people
Speaker 1: say about this? Not like what did the New York
Speaker 1: times say about this or you know what it like,
Speaker 1: what do people you know say if it hasn't been
Speaker 1: covered on like one of the food blogs, so you
Speaker 1: like check on yelp, And like I've had some wild
Speaker 1: experiences with yelp. Like what we we had somebody who
Speaker 1: we need to like dig up our backyard to you know,
Speaker 1: get ready for something like just like turn it, like
Speaker 1: turn the soil because we're gonna do something to it.
Speaker 1: And the person, what are you living now, Jack? What's
Speaker 1: going on with this? This is when we lived in
Speaker 1: a square foot bungalow in Santa Monica. But the person
Speaker 1: who we got was this like predatory person who when
Speaker 1: we left a bad review for him, like he was
Speaker 1: just like he didn't do the work, he left it
Speaker 1: half done. He his dog like gave air dog flees
Speaker 1: and like a dog like so we rubbed this up
Speaker 1: and he like went just went so wild on us
Speaker 1: and was like I'm gonna track you guys down like
Speaker 1: do all this ship. And like we realized that's how
Speaker 1: he he was. He was just a yelp you know,
Speaker 1: a Yelp listing that he had like curated really well
Speaker 1: and then fought every negative you know, sting that he
Speaker 1: had done was basically just using that platform and its weaknesses.
Speaker 1: Well there you go. And I still use yelp, use
Speaker 1: yelp sometimes like that's what that's how broken this ship is.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, like the only solution is to
Speaker 1: make these things government run, taxpayer funded parts of our society.
Speaker 1: That yeah, like I I truly believe that, Like I
Speaker 1: estimate we're probably about three hundred years from making something
Speaker 1: like that happened in the United States. But it makes sense,
Speaker 1: like if you created a new new deal and instead
Speaker 1: of building highways and bridges, you just like made the
Speaker 1: internet work, like that would be I think people would
Speaker 1: get a lot out of that. But it's it's just
Speaker 1: not even a question that these all of these things
Speaker 1: are private institutions that the billionaires who were the first
Speaker 1: to get there like get to make all the decisions. Well,
Speaker 1: people talk about the Internet actually public utility, uh you
Speaker 1: know Twitter and face spoke and and true, I mean
Speaker 1: it is. I do really believe that people are figuring
Speaker 1: it out that how bad the internet is for you.
Speaker 1: It's obviously a new it's a new form of technology,
Speaker 1: and so for the past twenty years it's kind of
Speaker 1: run a muck. But I do feel that even everyday
Speaker 1: people understand how terrible, are starting to understand how terrible
Speaker 1: it is for you. So there is a chance. I
Speaker 1: do believe that we can figure out some way to
Speaker 1: rein it in you. You are corrected the idea of
Speaker 1: making anything of public utility, it's still people still can't
Speaker 1: wrap their brains around it. We should have a a
Speaker 1: seriously a an airline, a nationally a national airline where
Speaker 1: that we don't have to worry about any of that
Speaker 1: should too, And even despite all the horrible things that
Speaker 1: have happened in the holidays and everything like that, people
Speaker 1: still the idea of having a national I'm not saying
Speaker 1: the rewards right, but nationally funded airline. People still aren't
Speaker 1: behind that idea, even though it would make everyone infinitely better,
Speaker 1: so much better? Do I agree with that more? Just
Speaker 1: take over US air that's like then then the name
Speaker 1: makes it already got the name American US American airways exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean high high, high powered rail lines, you know
Speaker 1: like in Japan. There should there could be you know
Speaker 1: that we be big business, like took down the one
Speaker 1: from here to San Francisco. But there should be stuff too,
Speaker 1: from Chicago to New York, Philly to New York. All
Speaker 1: of this stuff is just it's insane that it has
Speaker 1: not even it's not even as conversation. Yeah, yeah, it'll
Speaker 1: it'll be a conversation last in the United States like
Speaker 1: that that will be the very last step or yeah.
Speaker 1: Or One of the sad things is that it's only
Speaker 1: when the world's eyes are going to be on our
Speaker 1: city that these changes might actually happen. We got the
Speaker 1: Olympics coming in and they're really trying to spruce up
Speaker 1: the metro line just so that we have some sort
Speaker 1: of infrastructure around the city. And it's like, oh, you
Speaker 1: know what, now that everybody's gonna be looking, maybe we
Speaker 1: should do something serious about this, Like maybe let's do
Speaker 1: like a little bit of infrastructure help. But it's not
Speaker 1: like let's help the people of the city because it's
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. It's because, oh, the Olympics
Speaker 1: are going to be here, so we better look good
Speaker 1: for the rest of the world, which is you know, sad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the way. That's capitalism. Solution is like, well, putting
Speaker 1: Olympics there and then fund the hell out of a
Speaker 1: bunch of projects and then you can just kind of
Speaker 1: let them also really quickly. On trip Advisor, trip Advisor
Speaker 1: says that Cafe Gratitude is the eighth best restaurant in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Okay, that's all I gotta say about that.
Speaker 1: Cafe Gratitude is the eighth highest restaurant, highest rated restaurant
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. And I don't know about y'all, but
Speaker 1: that's not that's just that's just plain old brown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right over toast. You just reminded me that I
Speaker 1: dated a person from Cafe Gratitude for a while and
Speaker 1: she had this terrible dog that she would not do
Speaker 1: anything with when we were fooling around in the bedroom,
Speaker 1: and they single handedly made me break up with this person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the dog just barked and it being crazy, and then
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just like, I can't do that. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I forget whatever reason I said, But uh, I am.
Speaker 1: I'm full of gratitude for that experience. I'm grateful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the dog is no longer in the bedroom, yea. But
Speaker 1: for people who don't know, Catholic Gratitude is like is
Speaker 1: a vegan a vegan restaurant where a bowl of like
Speaker 1: undercooked beans is called like I am inspired. Yeah, every
Speaker 1: everything is, every menu item is some sort of thing,
Speaker 1: and every every time you buy something, they're like, here's
Speaker 1: a topic of conversation for your meal. Yeah, get out
Speaker 1: of here. Yeah. True Advisor eventually commented this was a
Speaker 1: failure in human moderation practices, like they were run by
Speaker 1: a fucking borg. It was actually a failure in human moderation.
Speaker 1: It was actually a prank by a comedian who wanted
Speaker 1: to like prove this point that he just put down
Speaker 1: his own phone number for the listing, use photos of
Speaker 1: his friends basement, and like when people would call to
Speaker 1: book at table, he would just tell people like, ah,
Speaker 1: we're just booked up for the next two months, and
Speaker 1: then when asked about the menu, he simply responded, we
Speaker 1: do tap us pretty great, but yeah. In twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: the top eight restaurant in London on trip Advisor was
Speaker 1: briefly The Shed at Dulwich, which was again someone's backyard,
Speaker 1: someone's backyard that they were just like doing a crack on,
Speaker 1: but no, nobody just really figured out how to monetize
Speaker 1: this like that that that's when they'll actually fix it
Speaker 1: is when like someone starts actually making money off of
Speaker 1: it and trip avisor starts getting sued. So we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know, be aware, be aware when
Speaker 1: you go on trip Advisor. The ones that I feel
Speaker 1: like you can trust on trip Advisors like things to
Speaker 1: do as long as it's not a thing to do
Speaker 1: that costs money, like parks and stuff. But even then,
Speaker 1: like it's overwhelmingly like these people who right feature magazine
Speaker 1: feature length reviews and stories affeeliate, it's more people a
Speaker 1: place for people to publish their writing, or or they
Speaker 1: write the place off because they're like I saw one
Speaker 1: homeless person. This place is gross. Yeah, be going there again.
Speaker 1: I guess this is all part of teaching people media
Speaker 1: literacy too, because I know, and it's like you, you
Speaker 1: guys are the same thing as that. When I look
Speaker 1: at a thing, I'm like sifting through the thing, almost
Speaker 1: like when I'm reading news articles as well as you're
Speaker 1: looking for points, you know. I I see little red
Speaker 1: flags pop up when I hear someone saying something that,
Speaker 1: oh that's not a real factor, that's an opinion, you know.
Speaker 1: But if people don't know how to sift through this stuff,
Speaker 1: then they just will continue to get taken advantage of
Speaker 1: and that goes for new stories, to trip Advisor, to
Speaker 1: to help to all of that stuff. Yeah. Absolutely, well Steve,
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you as always. Where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you all that good stuff. I have
Speaker 1: a show tonight on Wednesday at the Rainbow Room. It's
Speaker 1: a It's a banger with Morgan Jay and Jay an Ellis.
Speaker 1: I'm also going to be at the Bay at the
Speaker 1: end of the month on February Santa Cruz and in
Speaker 1: Oakland on and then you could catch me next Wednesday,
Speaker 1: February fift that my wife's What's your sign Anniversary party
Speaker 1: at WAMO Records here in Echo Park. So that's that's
Speaker 1: all you can find. And you can find me at
Speaker 1: on Twitter at big Hearn and Instagram, Hernia at Hernia
Speaker 1: on Instagram. And is there a tweet or work of
Speaker 1: media that you've been enjoying? Yes, this is for This
Speaker 1: is for all the heads. If you love stand up comedy,
Speaker 1: if you know l A common This is from Brendan
Speaker 1: Cooney at Cooney or die uh. He is a l
Speaker 1: A institution, very funny, very funny stand up comic. Just
Speaker 1: a white guy. He gets zero love. He he looks
Speaker 1: like Bill Burr, but he he always tweets about flappers.
Speaker 1: He loves flappers. Uh. But if you love stand up comedy,
Speaker 1: you'll know who he is. He has a great podcast
Speaker 1: call Raccoon Tweeties Right. He specifically talks about the l
Speaker 1: a stand up comedy scene, and he's beloved by everyone
Speaker 1: who knows him. But this is his tweet. At Cooney
Speaker 1: or diet at Trader Joe's, they'll often compliment your items
Speaker 1: or tell you what to pair with them. One time,
Speaker 1: the cashier just said to me, you have dry skin.
Speaker 1: But he's great. You follow at at Cooney or Die Brandon.
Speaker 1: Cooney is hilarious. I love him dearly, so follow him. Yeah, amazing. Daniel.
Speaker 1: Where can people find and is their work of media
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Oh? Always? You can find me all
Speaker 1: over the internet at DJ Underscore Daniel d A n L.
Speaker 1: I'm on a Twitch, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok sometimes, but you
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitch Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays doing
Speaker 1: the thing. A couple of pieces of media I like.
Speaker 1: One is from hip hop producer Y two K and
Speaker 1: just music producer General. I'm the Mr Beast of chilling,
Speaker 1: and then the other one I like is from Legendary
Speaker 1: uh legendary post stir and t d z a k
Speaker 1: A creator Christie, I'm a Gucci man. L L. Bean's
Speaker 1: full name was Ladies Love Cool Beans especially It's just fun.
Speaker 1: Gave that one a full last retweet. Follow them at
Speaker 1: wopple House. Yeah all right, you can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Uh. Tweet I've been enjoying
Speaker 1: was from Shigeharu tweeted is this at Jack O'Brien at
Speaker 1: daily zak is is this Apple ranking site on your radar?
Speaker 1: And it's just Apple Rankings dot com and it is now.
Speaker 1: I spent half of the morning looking through this, like
Speaker 1: Pitchfork of Apples. What a site. It just reminds me
Speaker 1: of like what what the Internet used to be, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like this. This is a fun, a fun thing,
Speaker 1: fun website. And it's also you know, I'm excited because
Speaker 1: the best apple is something called the Sweet Tango, which
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had. It only comes out
Speaker 1: in like September and October. It sounds like it was
Speaker 1: named by Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade from Cent of a
Speaker 1: woman like they have Honey Crisp second, and then my, uh,
Speaker 1: the the apple that I I've recently become a fan
Speaker 1: of the sugar Bee apples. They've got way down the list.
Speaker 1: They're like, it's a it's a B list, B tier apple,
Speaker 1: which I don't necessarily agree with, but it's it's a
Speaker 1: fun website. Thank you so much for put pointing it out,
Speaker 1: calling it to my attention, and yeah, I'll look off
Speaker 1: to that footnotes. You can find me on Twitter at
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Speaker 1: really off to the information that we talked about in
Speaker 1: this episode, as well as a song that we think
Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Super producer DJ Daniel where what what's
Speaker 1: the song you think people might enjoy today? We're gonna
Speaker 1: recommend a a Grammy winning artist who I think when
Speaker 1: maybe their first Grammy at the at the most recent
Speaker 1: totally controversial list Grammys. It's yeah, exactly, no Robert class
Speaker 1: for Robert class for fronts of band called R Plus
Speaker 1: Our Equals Now and the song is Awake to You
Speaker 1: and um I got to see him play at the
Speaker 1: Hollywood Bowl opening up for Herbie Hancock and this it
Speaker 1: was a fucking jam. So go listen to Awake to
Speaker 1: You by Our Plus Our Equals Now, fronted by Robert
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