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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two seventy four,

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Speaker 1: Episode three of Dire Dailies Like Guys Day production of

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Speaker 1: My Heart ratey to go? Well, what happened? Whoa? My

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Speaker 1: throat just glitched out? This is a podcast where we

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Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: February three. My name's Jack O'Brien a K. Show me thighs,

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Speaker 1: Show me white plump thighs, Show me thigh, show me

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Speaker 1: show me thighs. Oh no, you can't, hot plump little thighs.

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Speaker 1: courtesy of at least with hot takes in the Discord.

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Speaker 1: I'm in the discord, baby, I'm lurking like I'm in there,

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Speaker 1: amazing you. You will know me as uh Jack from

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Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist I think is my name or Jack

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Speaker 1: O'Brien from the Daily Sigist. I might have wanted to

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Speaker 1: make it a little more specific, but just larking. It's

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Speaker 1: amazing to see this community that you guys have built

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Speaker 1: up around there. Stupid show. Really appreciate you guys. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by today's special guest co

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Speaker 1: host one of the EPs on this very network, the

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Speaker 1: King of staying that bitch on Twitch it's DJ Daniel

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Speaker 1: good Man. I'm gonna be here at to boy d

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Speaker 1: J daniel A, Mr Steel your Ariel, you are literally

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Speaker 1: Jack from the Daily Zeitgeist on Discord, all words capitalized.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, very dad on the Internet energy and

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Speaker 1: I wanted to daily I wanted to post Hey, it's

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Speaker 1: me from the Daily Zeitgeist. But yeah, I also feel

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Speaker 1: weird about posting in there because it feels like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I just want to just be like y'all

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Speaker 1: do your thing, you know, I just want to be cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just want to be cool. Dam Look, I'll say

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Speaker 1: posting is inherently uncoyeah. And we've we've heard your takes

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Speaker 1: on this, your anti poster. Uh well, Dan, We are

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one

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Speaker 1: of our very favorite guests here on the Daily Site. Guys,

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Speaker 1: a hilarious and talented podcaster, comedian, writer or Dane Minister.

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Speaker 1: Please welcome back to the show. Steve Hernando to be

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Speaker 1: here too, wonderful Whites. I'm loving that and I'm loving

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Speaker 1: the imagery. Of your thighs, Jackie, I'm whoever did that?

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Speaker 1: Praise God? You know we're thinking of him. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: of you running for senate. Now, I'm thinking of you,

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Speaker 1: asked one of the Kennedy's. Praise God. You always said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you always said I give off Kennedy's energy. But I

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Speaker 1: feel like the Kennedy's would really I would have been

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Speaker 1: disowned from the family by now. You are the perfect

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Speaker 1: You are the perfect future candidate. Now you know you've

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Speaker 1: been doing this program for so long. You know what

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Speaker 1: a what an abysmal idea it is to run for office? Fine,

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Speaker 1: have you thought about it? It's something and you ever

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Speaker 1: thought about it? Jack have not. No. I I did

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Speaker 1: go to a Ugo Soto Martinez as event and he

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Speaker 1: he was talking about what it's like to be a

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Speaker 1: candidate for public office and be an introvert. And that

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Speaker 1: was the first time I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: that would be like that was that was the only

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Speaker 1: time I'd ever like put it into my head, and

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Speaker 1: I was like I would have to like go like

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Speaker 1: shake hands with people, talk to them, and then go

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Speaker 1: take a nap in my car from just like the sheer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just draining amount of energy that I would be putting

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Speaker 1: into every single thing that they said, well, definitely, definitely

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Speaker 1: would be a sacrifice for you. But it's either you

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Speaker 1: or the rock. And that's I mean, this can't be

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Speaker 1: our two main hopes. But Jack, I believe it is

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Speaker 1: you or the rock. All right, Well, I've got to

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Speaker 1: start waking up an hour earlier because I was I

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Speaker 1: friend to Adele. So I'm sorry that anyone had to

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Speaker 1: hear my commentary on the Grammys, a show that I

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Speaker 1: was just like what what Like, she's like dancing to

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Speaker 1: I guess it's just still wildly uncomfortable to have cameras

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Speaker 1: j Lo and it just must be such a pain

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Speaker 1: in the ask that his love comes with this, all

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Speaker 1: of this show, all of it. Hey, the heart wants

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Speaker 1: what it wants, you know, boy, don't I know it?

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Speaker 1: All Right, Steve, We're gonna get to know you a

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Speaker 1: little bit better at a moment. First, we're gonna tell

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Speaker 1: our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today, folks.

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Speaker 1: I read a New Yorker article, so that means you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hear about that ship. It's about the wealth defense industry,

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Speaker 1: which is like the people who go into private wealth

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Speaker 1: percent in the United States have gone from having I

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Speaker 1: think seven percent in the seventies of the wealth to

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Speaker 1: eighteen percent. So it's a big contributor too inequality in

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Speaker 1: the country. And it's one of the most infuriating things

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Speaker 1: that I've ever read, just hearing these people talk about

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Speaker 1: the world that they exist in, and it's just straight

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Speaker 1: up like they're outraged that anyone would suggest taxing their

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Speaker 1: their wealth. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: Leonardo Dicabrio has another very young girlfriend, and people are

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Speaker 1: doing fun things, gross things to put it into perspective

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Speaker 1: on the internet. So we'll talk about that. State of

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Speaker 1: the Union is happening tonight. I don't we probably won't

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Speaker 1: gonna be a rip roarer in good time. Yeah, is

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Speaker 1: that happening? What that's Tuesday? Last second? Yeah, last night

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Speaker 1: could happen last night. So I don't know. We're we're

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Speaker 1: recording this before, so any major bombshells, I can guarantee

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about trip Advisor getting fooled by fake restaurants,

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Speaker 1: so all of that plenty more, But first, big Hern,

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Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something

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Speaker 1: from your search history? I was looking at I looked

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Speaker 1: through them, and the only appropriate thing to talk about

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Speaker 1: is that I was looking for Beyonce tickets. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: can't do it. I'm out. I'm out for a concert, Chack.

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Speaker 1: When was the last time you went to a concert?

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Speaker 1: might have been the jay Z Beyonce show. Ye? How

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Speaker 1: about you? Dan? How about you? I went and saw

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Speaker 1: it was fun. I'm I'm completely prepared to cash out.

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Speaker 1: I lost my ship during the Taylor Swift uproar. I'm

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Speaker 1: it's not saying I'm proud of your listeners may not

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Speaker 1: I were a bartending Covina. I've got a face working

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Speaker 1: It's the very exact same thing. You could tell everything.

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Speaker 1: me out not to see the queen, you know, holding

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Speaker 1: singing songs from Lemonade, you know, cheating songs. Yeah, so cheating.

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Speaker 1: cheating on Beyonce. Yeah, yeah, he funked up. It really

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Speaker 1: ever seen that we have on tape. To have beyonce

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Speaker 1: sister beating up jay Z for cheating on her. How

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Speaker 1: cool is this? It's great. I feel like that would

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Speaker 1: have been a lot of people's responses to hearing that

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Speaker 1: he cheated on Beyonce, like it didn't need to be

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Speaker 1: going if you will be absolutely not, absolutely not, You're

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Speaker 1: not going. I will not. I will. I probably will

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Speaker 1: hate what I'm about to tell you, but it's it's

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Speaker 1: sad everything's gotten so expensive. Dude. I have money. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm not rich or anything, but I'm a wildly successful

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Speaker 1: to worry about money. I'm very grateful for that like that,

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Speaker 1: but uh, you know, going grows. I do the grocery

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Speaker 1: I'm just feeling taking advantage of Okay, I'm starting to

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Speaker 1: feel like this is too much now. Granted I'm getting older,

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Speaker 1: So I wonder if everyone just feels this way, which

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Speaker 1: it's like they just raised the prices on everything and

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Speaker 1: And this is an article. This is in the New Yorker.

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Speaker 1: was like a rich Mars Candy family, but uh, that

423
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Speaker 1: grew by a factor of thirty six to ninety four billions.

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Speaker 1: The Waltons I had just kind of taken for granted. Yeah,

425
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: of course the Waltons are rich, but they have a

426
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Speaker 1: family fortune of two dred and forty seven billion dollars.

427
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Speaker 1: And like, the way that they're able to do this

428
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Speaker 1: like this is this is when their family should be

429
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Speaker 1: shipping away all their money and like losing it all.

430
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Speaker 1: And the way that used to work is because they

431
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Speaker 1: were taxed because they had like immense, immense wealth that

432
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Speaker 1: would be hard to hide and so it would be taxed.

433
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: But that is not the case anymore because of you know,

434
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Speaker 1: these industries, like they have like entire companies that work

435
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Speaker 1: for a family, Like they talked about this one Getty

436
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: family like industry family that manages more wealth than the

437
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Speaker 1: entire hedge fund industry, Like the the whole every hedge

438
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Speaker 1: fund in the world doesn't manages much wealth as this

439
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Speaker 1: one Getty family trust. But like we don't. I guess

440
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Speaker 1: I wasn't aware of the degree to which that this

441
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Speaker 1: had just become a thing where a handful of families

442
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Speaker 1: kind of behind behind the scenes control everything. And it

443
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: really is like there's a detail in here where Gavin

444
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: Newsome's dad is like high school friends with that getty guy,

445
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: and he like managed their wealth for a while and

446
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: then like lo and behold, Gavin Newsom becomes you know

447
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: who he is. So it's like it's just this wild

448
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 1: thing where like it is a secret network of very

449
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: extremely wealthy people behind the scenes who are connected to

450
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Speaker 1: one another, and they're just quietly protecting, you know, their

451
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Speaker 1: failed sons and just holding on and growing these incredibly

452
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Speaker 1: vast fortunes to the point that now the top point

453
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Speaker 1: one percent owns eight percent instead of seven percent as

454
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Speaker 1: as recently as the seventies. So I don't know, is

455
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Speaker 1: it Like I guess like I kind of knew this

456
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Speaker 1: was happening, but just reading the article really gives you

457
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Speaker 1: some texture of like how how it works. I mean,

458
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Speaker 1: you hate to have this out of stuff like driven

459
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Speaker 1: home super clearly, but it also feels like we've just

460
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: built so many fail safes for money, Like if you

461
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: have enough money to invest in such a way and

462
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: to put it in so many securities and stocks and

463
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, that you're kind of ensuring that the

464
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: you know, the one wild cousin can't go out and

465
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Speaker 1: just buy a seven Bentley's and you know, lose the

466
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Speaker 1: family wealth. I think that, you know, that has to

467
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: have something to do with it where it's just like, no,

468
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: we can just future proof this for enough time and

469
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: have enough lawyers involved that cousin Gregory isn't going to

470
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Speaker 1: blow it on a coke bench. Yeah, I don't know.

471
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: It feels like we're in another and they do say,

472
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Speaker 1: like that is what they have. They just have all

473
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: these incredibly complex financial institutions or instruments that the money

474
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Speaker 1: is tied up in and shellboards and you know, all

475
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: all these different financial products that are invented. You know,

476
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: this is where when like people graduate from the top

477
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: schools in America, this is what they go into, is

478
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: like inventing these ways to protect really rich families money

479
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: because it's also a great way to you know, build

480
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Speaker 1: your own fortune essentially, and like this the percentage of

481
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Speaker 1: that this is what like a lot of the most

482
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Speaker 1: capable people I went to college went to went into

483
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: and I never really understood what it was, but yeah,

484
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: it makes sense. It's just these families have more money

485
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: than entire industries, you know, like one family has more

486
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: money than the entire headge fund industry. So how much

487
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: money is after this amount of money they have, they

488
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: stopped being human as we know it. I think that,

489
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Speaker 1: I mean truly, I always play around with this number.

490
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: I've asked people, this is what I'm doing shows. It's

491
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: so funny how like regular people are like, ah, that's

492
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: too you know, that's not even like the regular people.

493
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Speaker 1: If you say, all right, you start getting tax after

494
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Speaker 1: this amount of money. Regular people are even very generous

495
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: about this. They'll say, like as much as twenty million

496
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Speaker 1: dollars year million a year. They say, ten million isn't

497
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: that much you I'm telling you. Regular people who work

498
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Speaker 1: at the post office will be like, yeah, right, well, well,

499
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: even with all of that said, our attitude, I think

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00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: America's attitude, from from the richest to the poorest attitudes

501
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: about taxes is so terrible. But it's it's only because

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00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: we don't see anything from those taxes generally, correct, right,

503
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Speaker 1: what you mean, like because the government doesn't. Yeah, I mean, well,

504
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to say because you know, there was

505
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Speaker 1: this run where the New Deal actually like created a

506
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Speaker 1: bunch of roads and you know, a bunch of the

507
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 1: things that we're still like that that built out our

508
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: society and that like American society still benefits from. But

509
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: we like for our entire lifetimes, we've been living in

510
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: this world where it's like they, yeah, the all the

511
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: energy and like the smartest people have gone into building

512
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: these people's wealth and like their own instead of trying

513
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: to figure out like smart ways to spend tax money. Essentially, yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so the problem is a multi leveled

515
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: like that when we have the original New Deal, I mean,

516
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Speaker 1: our money wasn't going straight to the military like our

517
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: budget is now. And so even when you get regular

518
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Speaker 1: people have this dish taste for taxes because we don't

519
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we obviously need a new new Deal because

520
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: we understand that homelessness is only going to get worse

521
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: in this country, especially in the cities, that we all

522
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: need uh medical care for all all of these things.

523
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Speaker 1: But nobody's been able to paint that picture. So rich

524
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: people could say, I mean, I I have friends, are

525
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: old friends, I should say that are Republicans now, and

526
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 1: they'll say, like, what am I going to just give

527
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Speaker 1: the government my money? What are they gonna do with it?

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Speaker 1: And at this moment, I really can't, if I'm being

529
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Speaker 1: honest with myself, I can't look them in the face

530
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: and say like, oh, yeah, you're right, just give them

531
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: your money and then it's just gonna go to the military,

532
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: I guess, and the and the cops. Like so, so,

533
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, so you know, you take that, and

534
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: you know that's obviously not a good thing. But it's

535
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like our politicians even have a

536
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: taste for going after rich people and their taxes and

537
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: all these loopholes and all the ship. I have people

538
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: who would identify as Democrats and liberal friends that they say,

539
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: I have to take advantage of these loopholes because they're

540
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: there and it's legal. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think it's

541
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: very apt to point out that, like we don't know

542
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: where the money is going because you know, just talking

543
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: about the military really briefly, the the whole spy balloon

544
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 1: whatever thing that we shot out of the sky. That

545
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: was the first time in f twenty two Raptor has

546
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: hit an air to air target. That's a a hundred

547
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: and twenty million dollar plane shooting a four hundred thousand

548
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: dollar missile at a balloon and it's like, hey, guy,

549
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: us our tax dollars at work to make that happen

550
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: because we did it. Everybody we did it just like

551
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: that exactly fu Yeah, but yeah, I mean so the

552
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: overall like what in this article they argue that like

553
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: like we're in another guilded age, right, And the argument

554
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: that one scholar in the article makes is that a

555
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: crash has to happen. Basically that like this is the

556
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: how the attitude of towards taxation works in the country

557
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: is that, like people are skeptical of taxes until like

558
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: the wealthy acquire all the money and people are having

559
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: so much trouble that the society can't function that a

560
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: crash happens. And then you get the New Deal out

561
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: of just a place of like desperation and everybody realizing

562
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: like this ship doesn't work, and then slowly by slowly,

563
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: I mean they granted, the wealthy don't want it to

564
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: be slowly, right like during during the New Deal when

565
00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: when Roosevelt was like doing the New Deal, they try

566
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: to overthrow him with a with the U. S. General.

567
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: They tried to do a fascist coup. But I don't know,

568
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: it's it's just bleak to accept that they need to

569
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: funk up so badly that they send a message to

570
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: themselves that a bunch of people like are starving, like

571
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: that we need to starve in order for them to

572
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: accept that what they're doing is fucked up. And like

573
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: it does seem like we get a lot of this already,

574
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: like we're voting for more socialist policies, and but but

575
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: when when people vote towards the left, like the mainstream

576
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: media just works so hard and is like so consistent

577
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: about just hiding that appetite and being like, well, Americans

578
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: are scared of the scared of the edges they were,

579
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: they're more centrist than they've ever been before, and it's

580
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: like no, man, Like the society is moving fiscally and

581
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: socially to the right like has been for our entire lifetimes.

582
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: People don't like that and are trying to push back,

583
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: But it's just everything is controlled by this ivy league

584
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: educated gentry class that treats any solution that doesn't involve

585
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: venture capital backing as like unrealistic or childish, Like you

586
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: have to like speak the language of like venture capital

587
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: in order to be taken seriously by them, and it's

588
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, it's it's frustrating, and you

589
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: you mentioned the articles, does mention uh that it's but

590
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: these things, this is what happens. This has all been

591
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: happening since the beginning of time, correct, I mean it's

592
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: we haven't been around that long. But it does seem

593
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: like that there is always this upward pressure of money

594
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: in capitalism, right, But I mean, yeah, it's that there's

595
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: definitely been other ways to organize a civilization or society

596
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: that seemed to make people much happier that you know,

597
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 1: don't involve just people being alienated from their lives and

598
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: you know, feeling dread every every morning and just having

599
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: the horrible, horrible deaths of despair and like all these

600
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: things that we have kind of taken for granted and

601
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: just been like, well, this has to be the best version.

602
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: It's like, no, it actually doesn't. Like there's there's all

603
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: these indigenous civilizations that we just like haven't really bothered studying,

604
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: but like when when you do look at them, they

605
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: had awesome ways, like awesome ideas for distributing wealth, like

606
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: changing who has different jobs on a like annual basis,

607
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: like there's uh ceremonies where like the wealthy are forced

608
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: to live like the least wealthy and the least wealthier

609
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: enabled to live in the homes of the wealthy, or

610
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: you know, like it's just like anything that takes away

611
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: the permanence of this, like that that seems to be

612
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,240
Speaker 1: the thing that ties into this article that other civilizations

613
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: had been very skeptical of, and I think rightly so.

614
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: Is what we're seeing in this article is the idea

615
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: that you permanently get to keep the money, like that

616
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: you permanently if you have like a good stroke of luck,

617
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: you get to keep the winnings from that good stroke

618
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: of luck, because eventually you are going to re tell

619
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: that story to yourself in such a way that it

620
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: was actually because you were you know, you're making a

621
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: billion times more money than everyone, because you're actually a

622
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: billion times smarter than everyone. Is like the story that

623
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: they eventually tell themselves down through the generations, and it's

624
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: it's all total bullshit. Well, I mean the Covina version

625
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: of this, and this truly happens. Like get think of

626
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 1: three guys right now, is that these guys their dad

627
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: has have construction companies, and they're like staunch Republicans and

628
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: talking about about democratic policies. I'm like, you, motherfucker's have

629
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: not done anything for your bullshit thing. Please tip me over.

630
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: Will not bring up any of this, But I have

631
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: the Democrats talked about I know, once Trump got into

632
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: the office, they were pulled the estate tax. But has

633
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: there been any talk about reinstating the estate tax? Yeah,

634
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean there's a bunch of loopholes that haven't been addressed,

635
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: like they they've basically they so they go to this

636
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: like this industry is like meeting, like where where they

637
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: all get together and like talk about what's happening in

638
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: the industry, and everyone's just like this is the best time.

639
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: Everybody like hurry up, make all the money. They haven't

640
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: like Congress hasn't adjusted a tax law in the direction

641
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: of like taking more money from the extremely wealthy in

642
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: thirty five years, and like so they there they also

643
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: write about like there are some signals like based on

644
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: you know that there have been some document leaks that

645
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: have made people very angry and like shamed one politician

646
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: and I think like Iceland or something into quitting. But

647
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: it's it's all very meager in terms of like we

648
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: have this massive problem with inequality. It's like driving a

649
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: lot of the extremism and all all the ship that

650
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: we're seeing and like we we know what the problem is.

651
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: It's just this. This is like buried in some New

652
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: York or article, you know, like there's this massive industry,

653
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: and they also talk about there's a product that they

654
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: have in this industry that is I think called like

655
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: the eyes glazed over product or something something like that,

656
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 1: where it's just like it's so boring and complicated that

657
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 1: when we put our money into it, like the vast

658
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: majority of the people like won't understand, right, so they

659
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: just like we get to steal from future generations of

660
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: other people's kids with this product because there when we

661
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: explain how it works, their eyes will glaze over. That

662
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: is an issue that I'm unfortunately all too familiar with.

663
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: There was a time back in the DJ days and

664
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: someone be like, why once you come to my city

665
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I don't choose what city we

666
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: go to. It's like the agents who it's like, well,

667
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: how does that work? And then you start explaining how

668
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: a show gets booked, and they just stopped caring three

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00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 1: seconds and it's like, never mind, there's too much information

670
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: here for me to care about this. All right, Well

671
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: that's how it works. I'm sorry. Yeah, but yeah, it's

672
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: the golden age for these people who are extremely wealthy

673
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: families like the Gettys and the Mars, and then a

674
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: bunch of families we've probably never heard of, and the

675
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: you know, financial professionals who who fund them and who

676
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: or who like advised them, like, are all making their

677
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: own fortunes and it's just it's fun. It's a it's can't.

678
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: Can't be the way that things continue on if if

679
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: we're going to have a functioning civilization, Like it's a

680
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: it's a real mess, perfectly upsetting. Yeah, it's perfect. Last May,

681
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: Marvin Blum, a Texas lawyer and accountant, gave us M

682
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: and R for fellow accountants who are figuring out how

683
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: to profit from the influx of wealth that needed protecting.

684
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: Blum told his colleagues conditions for leaving large sums have

685
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: never been better, noting that Congress has not closed an

686
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: estate planning loophole in over thirty years. So yeah, hell yeah.

687
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: And the top one percent of taxpayers are responsible for

688
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: of the nation's unpaid taxes. There of course, not the

689
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: ones who are going to be audited, or if they

690
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: are audited, they have the you know, legal and financial

691
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: firepower to like push back and you know tie it

692
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: up in the courts. But they are under under funding

693
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: the US government an annual shortfall of more than one

694
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: and sixty billion dollars. So yeah, and then the other

695
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: thing that's like really annoying slash troubling is that, like,

696
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: so I'll just read this one quote. Tom Handler, Chicago

697
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: tax lawyer who specializes in ultra wealthy clients, told me

698
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: that the political pressure, so this is like in response

699
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: to all these leaked documents and everyone being kind of

700
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: outraged as they see how much money these people are hoarding.

701
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: He says, like the response among the ultra wealthy is

702
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: that it has only generated more business for him and

703
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 1: his peers. And then he says, most of the high

704
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: net worth client base, they're running for cover. So income

705
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: tax planning has gone up, the state tax planning has

706
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: gone up, asset protection has gone up, And he says

707
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 1: that his clients feel vilified. Other than the very liberal,

708
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: highly educated intellectual elite, they don't feel guilty at all

709
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: they're angry. So the very rich people who people are

710
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: now like wait, you haven't been paying taxes and like

711
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: generations and like we're all, you know, suffering and having

712
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: to like look at our hand and see a big

713
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: cartoon ham because we're we're hungry like that, like the

714
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: what the fuck? And they get mad that we even

715
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: have the temerity to like question them. So it's I

716
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: don't know, it's a very infuriating article, but I thought

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00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: very enlightening. We will we will link off to it

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00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: in the footnotes for the let's take a quick break

719
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk about Leonardo DiCaprio's girlfriend

720
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: or some ship a joyous yeah, yeah, and we're back

721
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: and yeah. So Leonardo DiCaprio seems to be continuing with

722
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: his I guess it's the reverse car rental company policy

723
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: because he doesn't date women over the age of Like

724
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: it's like once you hit, instead of being acceptable, you're

725
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: now like need to start start looking for other other options.

726
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 1: According to one source, because people talk to Lee and

727
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: Art DiCaprio's friends and get sourcing on like what what's

728
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: with his policy? Leonardo says that's because that's when his

729
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: girlfriend start looking to settle down, which is, hey, you know,

730
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: but people are pointing out that his newest girlfriend is

731
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: I think she's nineteen. She's nineteen year old model, which

732
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 1: she wasn't even born when Titanic came out. She wasn't

733
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: from born when Gangs of New York and people are

734
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: doing a great job of illustrating the innate grossness of

735
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: this pairing, in one instance using the Last of Us. Yeah,

736
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: that really hit home. Yeah, wow, you're supposed to be

737
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about this relationship between this guy who lost

738
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: his daughter and this girl that he like rescues, and

739
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: it's just like, yeah, that's when Leo's dating. It's like, yeah,

740
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: Pedro Pascal's forty seven and in Ramsey is nineteen. The

741
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: girl in the Last of Us, which is pretty much

742
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: on par with what we're working with, or even even

743
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: closer in age than what we're working on working with

744
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: with Leo. David Harbor and his eighteen year old Stranger

745
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: Things co star Millie Bobby Brown have the exact same

746
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: age gap as Leo and Eden. Yeah, so, I don't know, wonderful. Yeah,

747
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: he obviously doesn't think of women as people. Sure, I mean,

748
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: but what are we supposed to do with that, like

749
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: he you know, I mean who who? I guess I

750
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: should say, who cares? Right, the six year countdown begins.

751
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: That's what we got. We've got the six year counts

752
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: out until the chart resets. He lets her off into

753
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: the off to pasture and then picks up another nineteen

754
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: year old and then we start Oliver again. What do

755
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: they talk about, like does he does he stay up

756
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: on like what younger general Asians are interested in, or

757
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: is he just like I don't know, man, they you know,

758
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,399
Speaker 1: they're talking about the tickety taka or something and I'm

759
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: just over here. The one thing that we have talked

760
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: about is that he what what is rumored to have.

761
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: Somebody who slept with him said that he likes to

762
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: put on noise canceling headphones and vape weed while having sex,

763
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: which that's that's precious. Yeah. No, I've heard from I've

764
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: heard from a few people, Like first, I've heard from

765
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: one per firsthand account. Yes, he likes to do it

766
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: doggie style. You can't look at him. He's had something.

767
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: And I've heard he watches even he watches porn while

768
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: it's happening too. So the guy has been. He's obviously

769
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: not a real person. He has been like famous since

770
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: he was a child on growing pains. His brain is broken.

771
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: He probably does not possess the ability to form any

772
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: real human connections with anything anyone outside the pussy Posse.

773
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: It is, yeah, so the whatever in this particular instance,

774
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's okay Matt who knows

775
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: what's okay are and this ship, but it just seems

776
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: so it's like so laugh out loud funny that he

777
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: clocks him out at to that nobody. To me, it

778
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: is kind of funny. You think Kevin Connolly is still

779
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: in the pussy Posse? Is he still hanging as? He

780
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: still hanging around. He hasn't done anything forever, but he's

781
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: probably holding on making those calls like hey, so what

782
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 1: are we doing tonight on TikTok. Every now and then

783
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: he'll pop up. He does have a podcast, well he

784
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: was he oh yeah, podcast. I don't want to say

785
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: it's with Johnny Drama, but I did see I have

786
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: seen things with him talking to I believe his name

787
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: is Doug ellis the creator of Entourage. So he is

788
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: like there is some stuff like that. I personally think

789
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Connolly is keeps getting cuter the older he gets.

790
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's doing fine, and he seems like a

791
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: cool guy. I I have an inside scoop that at

792
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: the kid cutty a birthday party last week that Casey Affleck,

793
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: Toby McGuire, and Leonardo DiCaprio are hanging out. And if

794
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like a frightening crew to anyone, what

795
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: a frightening crew of guys is Casey Athle, Toby McGuire,

796
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: and Leonardo DiCaprio hanging out in a clubtic? The worst

797
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: movie of was just what a frightening crew of guys?

798
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: But you know, because because of how the world works,

799
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, tons of tons of women were

800
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: throwing themselves at them, so um, you know, I don't know.

801
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell anyone about this. I'm

802
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: sure those women don't. I hope these models are not

803
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: feeling used. I hope these multi daughters of the multi

804
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: billionaires are not feeling used. But but until he starts

805
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: dating a t G. I Friday's like hostness, then I

806
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: have nothing to say about these rich people being together, right, Yeah, Yeah,

807
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: that's that's funny. Yeah, the the model universe. Like I

808
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: just saw a magazine spread We're got We're doing some

809
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: spring cleaning in our house, and it had like a

810
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: spread about Steve Jobs's daughter, a famous equestrian model that

811
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: she hasn't dated Leonardo DiCaprio. Anyways, Now what I'm I'm

812
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: really interested in is trip Advisory. Well, I'm glad you

813
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: brought that. Have you guys on this trip avisor I

814
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,479
Speaker 1: still funk with trip Advisor because I'm an old ass

815
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: man and like, I don't know, it was like one

816
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: of the original lapps. But off that ship we went.

817
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: We did we did one European vacation and got lied

818
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: to so many times, Like I don't trust a damn

819
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: fool trip Advisor ever. Again to the to the degree

820
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: that you just started sounding like Mr T a little bit,

821
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: but it's basically like I don't know, there is so

822
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: the top rated restaurant in Montreal on trip avised Montreal,

823
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: great city to visit, beautiful, you know, probably one of

824
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: the you know, a hot city for trip Advisor, like

825
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: one that they would be paying attention to. It's not

826
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 1: like it's in like des Moines or something. Although des Moines,

827
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm told as lovely, but you know, it's like Montreal

828
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: is a big tourist destination. Trip Advisor's number one top

829
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: rated restaurant on in Montreal had eighty five reviews, all

830
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: five stars, and it was a complete fabrication. It did

831
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: not exist. The trip avisor page was only taken down

832
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: when the CBC asked trip Advisor for a comment on

833
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: their article. I just this feels like a story that

834
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: we see over and over again that doesn't really get

835
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: called out or like collated with other similar stories. But

836
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: all of these user generated content sites from Facebook, trivivisor

837
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: YouTube are too big for anyone to profitably like moderate them,

838
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: Like in order for them to function well, you would

839
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: need to hire like we, we would need to engage

840
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: in another new deal like the hyper and tactic would

841
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: need to be like so much moderation your platform platform

842
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: make the Internet usable? Do you know how many people

843
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: that would require a lot? Do you? Do you all

844
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: still use Yelp or anything for like restaurant reviews Sometimes

845
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: like a pinch where I'm when I'm like at a

846
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Speaker 1: restaurant and I'm like, what what's a what do people

847
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: say about this? Not like what did the New York

848
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: times say about this or you know what it like,

849
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: what do people you know say if it hasn't been

850
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 1: covered on like one of the food blogs, so you

851
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: like check on yelp, And like I've had some wild

852
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: experiences with yelp. Like what we we had somebody who

853
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: we need to like dig up our backyard to you know,

854
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: get ready for something like just like turn it, like

855
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: turn the soil because we're gonna do something to it.

856
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: And the person, what are you living now, Jack? What's

857
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: going on with this? This is when we lived in

858
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: a square foot bungalow in Santa Monica. But the person

859
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 1: who we got was this like predatory person who when

860
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: we left a bad review for him, like he was

861
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: just like he didn't do the work, he left it

862
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: half done. He his dog like gave air dog flees

863
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: and like a dog like so we rubbed this up

864
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: and he like went just went so wild on us

865
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: and was like I'm gonna track you guys down like

866
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: do all this ship. And like we realized that's how

867
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: he he was. He was just a yelp you know,

868
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: a Yelp listing that he had like curated really well

869
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: and then fought every negative you know, sting that he

870
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: had done was basically just using that platform and its weaknesses.

871
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: Well there you go. And I still use yelp, use

872
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: yelp sometimes like that's what that's how broken this ship is.

873
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: But I don't know, like the only solution is to

874
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 1: make these things government run, taxpayer funded parts of our society.

875
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 1: That yeah, like I I truly believe that, Like I

876
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: estimate we're probably about three hundred years from making something

877
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 1: like that happened in the United States. But it makes sense,

878
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,880
Speaker 1: like if you created a new new deal and instead

879
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 1: of building highways and bridges, you just like made the

880
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: internet work, like that would be I think people would

881
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: get a lot out of that. But it's it's just

882
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: not even a question that these all of these things

883
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: are private institutions that the billionaires who were the first

884
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: to get there like get to make all the decisions. Well,

885
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: people talk about the Internet actually public utility, uh you

886
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: know Twitter and face spoke and and true, I mean

887
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: it is. I do really believe that people are figuring

888
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: it out that how bad the internet is for you.

889
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: It's obviously a new it's a new form of technology,

890
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: and so for the past twenty years it's kind of

891
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: run a muck. But I do feel that even everyday

892
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: people understand how terrible, are starting to understand how terrible

893
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: it is for you. So there is a chance. I

894
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: do believe that we can figure out some way to

895
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: rein it in you. You are corrected the idea of

896
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: making anything of public utility, it's still people still can't

897
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: wrap their brains around it. We should have a a

898
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: seriously a an airline, a nationally a national airline where

899
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: that we don't have to worry about any of that

900
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: should too, And even despite all the horrible things that

901
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 1: have happened in the holidays and everything like that, people

902
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: still the idea of having a national I'm not saying

903
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: the rewards right, but nationally funded airline. People still aren't

904
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,959
Speaker 1: behind that idea, even though it would make everyone infinitely better,

905
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: so much better? Do I agree with that more? Just

906
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: take over US air that's like then then the name

907
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: makes it already got the name American US American airways exactly.

908
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean high high, high powered rail lines, you know

909
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: like in Japan. There should there could be you know

910
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: that we be big business, like took down the one

911
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: from here to San Francisco. But there should be stuff too,

912
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: from Chicago to New York, Philly to New York. All

913
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 1: of this stuff is just it's insane that it has

914
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: not even it's not even as conversation. Yeah, yeah, it'll

915
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: it'll be a conversation last in the United States like

916
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,720
Speaker 1: that that will be the very last step or yeah.

917
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: Or One of the sad things is that it's only

918
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: when the world's eyes are going to be on our

919
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: city that these changes might actually happen. We got the

920
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: Olympics coming in and they're really trying to spruce up

921
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: the metro line just so that we have some sort

922
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: of infrastructure around the city. And it's like, oh, you

923
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: know what, now that everybody's gonna be looking, maybe we

924
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: should do something serious about this, Like maybe let's do

925
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: like a little bit of infrastructure help. But it's not

926
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: like let's help the people of the city because it's

927
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. It's because, oh, the Olympics

928
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: are going to be here, so we better look good

929
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: for the rest of the world, which is you know, sad. Yeah,

930
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: that's the way. That's capitalism. Solution is like, well, putting

931
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: Olympics there and then fund the hell out of a

932
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: bunch of projects and then you can just kind of

933
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: let them also really quickly. On trip Advisor, trip Advisor

934
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 1: says that Cafe Gratitude is the eighth best restaurant in

935
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Okay, that's all I gotta say about that.

936
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 1: Cafe Gratitude is the eighth highest restaurant, highest rated restaurant

937
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. And I don't know about y'all, but

938
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: that's not that's just that's just plain old brown. Yeah,

939
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: that's right over toast. You just reminded me that I

940
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: dated a person from Cafe Gratitude for a while and

941
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: she had this terrible dog that she would not do

942
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 1: anything with when we were fooling around in the bedroom,

943
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 1: and they single handedly made me break up with this person. Yeah,

944
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: the dog just barked and it being crazy, and then

945
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just like, I can't do that. I didn't.

946
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: I forget whatever reason I said, But uh, I am.

947
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 1: I'm full of gratitude for that experience. I'm grateful. Yeah,

948
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: the dog is no longer in the bedroom, yea. But

949
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: for people who don't know, Catholic Gratitude is like is

950
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: a vegan a vegan restaurant where a bowl of like

951
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: undercooked beans is called like I am inspired. Yeah, every

952
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: everything is, every menu item is some sort of thing,

953
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: and every every time you buy something, they're like, here's

954
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: a topic of conversation for your meal. Yeah, get out

955
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: of here. Yeah. True Advisor eventually commented this was a

956
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: failure in human moderation practices, like they were run by

957
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: a fucking borg. It was actually a failure in human moderation.

958
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: It was actually a prank by a comedian who wanted

959
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: to like prove this point that he just put down

960
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: his own phone number for the listing, use photos of

961
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: his friends basement, and like when people would call to

962
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 1: book at table, he would just tell people like, ah,

963
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: we're just booked up for the next two months, and

964
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: then when asked about the menu, he simply responded, we

965
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: do tap us pretty great, but yeah. In twenty seventeen,

966
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: the top eight restaurant in London on trip Advisor was

967
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: briefly The Shed at Dulwich, which was again someone's backyard,

968
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: someone's backyard that they were just like doing a crack on,

969
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: but no, nobody just really figured out how to monetize

970
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: this like that that that's when they'll actually fix it

971
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: is when like someone starts actually making money off of

972
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: it and trip avisor starts getting sued. So we'll see,

973
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: we'll see. I don't know, be aware, be aware when

974
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: you go on trip Advisor. The ones that I feel

975
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: like you can trust on trip Advisors like things to

976
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: do as long as it's not a thing to do

977
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 1: that costs money, like parks and stuff. But even then,

978
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: like it's overwhelmingly like these people who right feature magazine

979
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: feature length reviews and stories affeeliate, it's more people a

980
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: place for people to publish their writing, or or they

981
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: write the place off because they're like I saw one

982
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: homeless person. This place is gross. Yeah, be going there again.

983
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: I guess this is all part of teaching people media

984
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: literacy too, because I know, and it's like you, you

985
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: guys are the same thing as that. When I look

986
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 1: at a thing, I'm like sifting through the thing, almost

987
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: like when I'm reading news articles as well as you're

988
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: looking for points, you know. I I see little red

989
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: flags pop up when I hear someone saying something that,

990
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: oh that's not a real factor, that's an opinion, you know.

991
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: But if people don't know how to sift through this stuff,

992
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: then they just will continue to get taken advantage of

993
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: and that goes for new stories, to trip Advisor, to

994
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: to help to all of that stuff. Yeah. Absolutely, well Steve,

995
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you as always. Where can people

996
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you all that good stuff. I have

997
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 1: a show tonight on Wednesday at the Rainbow Room. It's

998
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: a It's a banger with Morgan Jay and Jay an Ellis.

999
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm also going to be at the Bay at the

1000
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: end of the month on February Santa Cruz and in

1001
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: Oakland on and then you could catch me next Wednesday,

1002
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: February fift that my wife's What's your sign Anniversary party

1003
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: at WAMO Records here in Echo Park. So that's that's

1004
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: all you can find. And you can find me at

1005
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: on Twitter at big Hearn and Instagram, Hernia at Hernia

1006
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: on Instagram. And is there a tweet or work of

1007
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: media that you've been enjoying? Yes, this is for This

1008
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: is for all the heads. If you love stand up comedy,

1009
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: if you know l A common This is from Brendan

1010
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: Cooney at Cooney or die uh. He is a l

1011
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: A institution, very funny, very funny stand up comic. Just

1012
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: a white guy. He gets zero love. He he looks

1013
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: like Bill Burr, but he he always tweets about flappers.

1014
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 1: He loves flappers. Uh. But if you love stand up comedy,

1015
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: you'll know who he is. He has a great podcast

1016
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: call Raccoon Tweeties Right. He specifically talks about the l

1017
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: a stand up comedy scene, and he's beloved by everyone

1018
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: who knows him. But this is his tweet. At Cooney

1019
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: or diet at Trader Joe's, they'll often compliment your items

1020
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: or tell you what to pair with them. One time,

1021
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 1: the cashier just said to me, you have dry skin.

1022
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: But he's great. You follow at at Cooney or Die Brandon.

1023
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: Cooney is hilarious. I love him dearly, so follow him. Yeah, amazing. Daniel.

1024
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: Where can people find and is their work of media

1025
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Oh? Always? You can find me all

1026
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: over the internet at DJ Underscore Daniel d A n L.

1027
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm on a Twitch, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok sometimes, but you

1028
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitch Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays doing

1029
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: the thing. A couple of pieces of media I like.

1030
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: One is from hip hop producer Y two K and

1031
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: just music producer General. I'm the Mr Beast of chilling,

1032
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: and then the other one I like is from Legendary

1033
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: uh legendary post stir and t d z a k

1034
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: A creator Christie, I'm a Gucci man. L L. Bean's

1035
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: full name was Ladies Love Cool Beans especially It's just fun.

1036
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: Gave that one a full last retweet. Follow them at

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01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: wopple House. Yeah all right, you can find me on

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01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Uh. Tweet I've been enjoying

1039
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: was from Shigeharu tweeted is this at Jack O'Brien at

1040
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: daily zak is is this Apple ranking site on your radar?

1041
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: And it's just Apple Rankings dot com and it is now.

1042
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: I spent half of the morning looking through this, like

1043
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: Pitchfork of Apples. What a site. It just reminds me

1044
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 1: of like what what the Internet used to be, you know,

1045
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: it's like this. This is a fun, a fun thing,

1046
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 1: fun website. And it's also you know, I'm excited because

1047
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: the best apple is something called the Sweet Tango, which

1048
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever had. It only comes out

1049
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: in like September and October. It sounds like it was

1050
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: named by Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade from Cent of a

1051
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: woman like they have Honey Crisp second, and then my, uh,

1052
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: the the apple that I I've recently become a fan

1053
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 1: of the sugar Bee apples. They've got way down the list.

1054
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: They're like, it's a it's a B list, B tier apple,

1055
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Speaker 1: which I don't necessarily agree with, but it's it's a

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Speaker 1: fun website. Thank you so much for put pointing it out,

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Speaker 1: calling it to my attention, and yeah, I'll look off

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Speaker 1: to that footnotes. You can find me on Twitter at

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Speaker 1: really off to the information that we talked about in

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Speaker 1: this episode, as well as a song that we think

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Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Super producer DJ Daniel where what what's

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Speaker 1: the song you think people might enjoy today? We're gonna

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Speaker 1: recommend a a Grammy winning artist who I think when

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Speaker 1: maybe their first Grammy at the at the most recent

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Speaker 1: totally controversial list Grammys. It's yeah, exactly, no Robert class

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Speaker 1: for Robert class for fronts of band called R Plus

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Speaker 1: Our Equals Now and the song is Awake to You

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Speaker 1: and um I got to see him play at the

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Bowl opening up for Herbie Hancock and this it

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Speaker 1: was a fucking jam. So go listen to Awake to

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Speaker 1: You by Our Plus Our Equals Now, fronted by Robert

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Speaker 1: But we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending

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