Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to woka F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from our podstream
Speaker 1: studios here in Times Square. Folks, I'm very excited about
Speaker 1: today's episode of wig F because I decided, along with
Speaker 1: my other DCP host and colleague, Mark Thompson, that we
Speaker 1: would start doing monthly crossovers of his show, Make It
Speaker 1: Plain and Woke. F. Now, if folks remember us back
Speaker 1: from serious days on Sirius XM, then you know that
Speaker 1: Mark show was a staple there and I used to
Speaker 1: fill in for him. So the opportunity to get to
Speaker 1: sit down once a month to kind of hash out
Speaker 1: where the Democratic where the Democratic Party is going as
Speaker 1: we make the long, long, long fucking March two what
Speaker 1: midterm twenty twenty two. So in today's conversation we unpack
Speaker 1: what happened in Virginia as well as why the mainstream
Speaker 1: media thinks that it's okay to continually use black voters
Speaker 1: as a scapegoat when we all recognize who the culprit
Speaker 1: is constantly in our political landscape and guess who it is?
Speaker 1: White women, the people that they never want to talk
Speaker 1: about but instead of want to do fucking docu series
Speaker 1: of empathy on for us to really understand how Karen
Speaker 1: and Jill and jan are feeling as opposed to what
Speaker 1: it is that they're doing to fuck our country over
Speaker 1: so that they can continue with their proximity to patriarchy
Speaker 1: and whiteness. The reality, folks, is that there is no
Speaker 1: one to blame for what happened in Virginia and what
Speaker 1: will potentially be foreshadowing for what could happen in midterms
Speaker 1: other than Democrats. Here's the thing, and I will say
Speaker 1: this until I am blue in the goddamn face. Democrats
Speaker 1: don't have a long game. They do not see strategy
Speaker 1: outside of two and four year elections. They're not even
Speaker 1: creating strategic plans for down ballot candidates. Right. So, when
Speaker 1: we are looking at this CONTI made up bullshit controversy.
Speaker 1: The next the right's new red scare and their new
Speaker 1: boogeyman right of critical race theory, which by the way,
Speaker 1: is only taught at the graduate level and is not
Speaker 1: taught in K through twelve elementary and high schools. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: let's not let logic enter into the chat. The fact
Speaker 1: is that until Democrats recognize that white people right, are
Speaker 1: no longer the base of their party. That cow tolling
Speaker 1: to the white working class is not exactly how you're
Speaker 1: going to advance and instead, excuse me, instead creating policies
Speaker 1: right and working on policies that everybody else wants. And
Speaker 1: those are the policies that guess what the Progressive Caucus,
Speaker 1: which is the largest caucus right now in Congress, is
Speaker 1: pushing for. We're pushing for an expansion of healthcare, not
Speaker 1: just barely holding on to what it is that we have.
Speaker 1: We're pushing for an expansion of voting rights, not just
Speaker 1: barely holding on to what we were able to secure
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixties. We want an expansion of abortion care,
Speaker 1: not just barely holding onto Roe v. Wade. And I
Speaker 1: find that with the Democrats, the reality is that all
Speaker 1: they ever do is just hold on. Nothing is about expansion.
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, that son of a
Speaker 1: bitch Joe Mansion this week once again says some hot
Speaker 1: trash with regard to well, I respect the President of
Speaker 1: the United States, but the United States is not a
Speaker 1: progressive country. It's not a center it's left country. Well,
Speaker 1: fuck you, Joe Mansion, because actually, if you were to
Speaker 1: pay attention to the numbers outside of your downtrod in
Speaker 1: West Virginia where a majority of the people are living
Speaker 1: in fucking poverty, right while you're living high on the
Speaker 1: hog on your seven hundred thousand dollars yacht, that maybe
Speaker 1: you would understand that majority of people want to be
Speaker 1: able to put food on their table, want to be
Speaker 1: able to get their medicine, and do all of those
Speaker 1: things at the same goddamn time, and not pay play
Speaker 1: three card monte with their lives. Right. That that isn't
Speaker 1: a leftist sensibility. It is an American value that no
Speaker 1: one should ever be working forty hours a goddamn week
Speaker 1: and not be able to have the bare minimum met meeting, food, shelter, clothing. Right.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I think we forget because
Speaker 1: once again in America it seems that our memory is
Speaker 1: that of a fucking gnat, is that during twenty tw twenty,
Speaker 1: the lines at food banks, folks were miles long. Places
Speaker 1: that we're giving out food for free, churches, food pantries, right,
Speaker 1: different community organizations were running out of food right an hour,
Speaker 1: two hours after they were opening. What does that show
Speaker 1: you when we look at the gas prices that are
Speaker 1: right now through the roof in every state across this country.
Speaker 1: I was in California last week, and I will tell
Speaker 1: you this first of all, every time that I go
Speaker 1: to California, I'm always like, I don't know how fucking
Speaker 1: people live here because one, yes, the weather is gorgeous.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't have any seasons, and it never rains, right, which,
Speaker 1: frankly I like rain. Maybe that's the scorpio in me,
Speaker 1: but like I like it. I think it's refreshing. But nonetheless,
Speaker 1: the traffic, the traffic in LA is like nothing I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. And I'm from I lived in Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: I lived in the DMV where they I thought that
Speaker 1: they invented traffic because they can't drive in any type
Speaker 1: of fucking weather. Right, So if the gas prices in
Speaker 1: LA are at over five dollars a gallon, which I
Speaker 1: cannot believe, and then you were driving right and sitting
Speaker 1: in traffic up to two hours to go roughly you know,
Speaker 1: twenty miles, do you know how much gas your car
Speaker 1: is requiring and how much money you are spending every
Speaker 1: single week. So just to think about that and the
Speaker 1: fact that people are barely making making ends meet. I
Speaker 1: don't understand how we are still having conversations about progressivism
Speaker 1: versus moderism, versus moderation, like we are in crisis in
Speaker 1: this country, and being moderate is basically about, you know,
Speaker 1: being complacent, shutting your eyes to the reality that is
Speaker 1: in front of you, which to me, is what Joe
Speaker 1: Mansion is doing. He doesn't care. He's a two bit
Speaker 1: ho that is bought and sold by either coal or
Speaker 1: big Pharma, right, like those are the ones that are
Speaker 1: riding his tickets. So he could give a fuck clearly
Speaker 1: about the people of West Virginia. And you will hear
Speaker 1: in my conversation with Mark one of the things that
Speaker 1: he offers up that would help to I guess, cut
Speaker 1: Joe's knees off, right, cut him off at the knees,
Speaker 1: so that he is not able to use the people
Speaker 1: of West Virginia as his bargaining chip. If you just
Speaker 1: include them in legislation and then heavily campaign that you're
Speaker 1: going to get everything that you need and Joe Mansion
Speaker 1: still doesn't come to the table, then he's showing his
Speaker 1: whole ass, right, Then he's showing his whole entire ass.
Speaker 1: And we know where he is. So the other thing,
Speaker 1: unfortunately that I wasn't able to get to in my
Speaker 1: conversation with Mark, and so I want to switch gears
Speaker 1: and talk to you all about now. There are multitude
Speaker 1: of cases that we are paying attention to and have
Speaker 1: been talking about on woke a f. We know that
Speaker 1: oral arguments started in the Texas Ban case that we
Speaker 1: talked about earlier in the week, and the feeling, the
Speaker 1: sentiment at least from my legal colleagues is that the portion,
Speaker 1: the portion of the Texas Ban which is about the
Speaker 1: bounty right, is about essentially deputizing everyone in Texas and
Speaker 1: everyone in the United States for that matter, to be
Speaker 1: able to bring up charges right and collect up to
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars or past go like we're all living
Speaker 1: in black Merri monopoly. Is that what the justices at
Speaker 1: least have signaled thus far, Gorsitch as being one of
Speaker 1: them and one of the conservatives and one of Trumpers,
Speaker 1: is that if you're allowed to create this kind of
Speaker 1: bounty with abortion, then what is to stop you from
Speaker 1: being able to do this with any other issue? Right?
Speaker 1: And then we are creating this chaotic, wild wild West
Speaker 1: in our adjudication, right and so that in and of itself,
Speaker 1: the fact that Gorsitch even mentioned this signals to me
Speaker 1: that even the most staunch advocate that our anti abortion
Speaker 1: are looking at the Texas law, which was written in
Speaker 1: such a malicious way that that will be part and
Speaker 1: parceled and thrown out, God willing. The other thing, though,
Speaker 1: that we are that we are watching, and what will
Speaker 1: come up next month is the Mississippi band, which I
Speaker 1: believe that they will most likely uphold, which is the
Speaker 1: teen week abortion ban, which would bring again Roe v. Wade,
Speaker 1: making it more and more toothless. Right now, you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to seek an abortion after twenty four weeks. The
Speaker 1: Mississippi ban is looking at fifteen weeks. I believe that
Speaker 1: they are going to uphold the Mississippi ban, and then
Speaker 1: that is going to be the law of the land.
Speaker 1: And then what white evangelical Christians will see is that
Speaker 1: they can continue to chip away, chip away, because they
Speaker 1: have friends on the Court that will then decide that
Speaker 1: eventually Roe v. Wade will just be null and void.
Speaker 1: It'll still exist, It'll just get to a point where
Speaker 1: it's just like, doesn't even matter that we have this.
Speaker 1: If women and people with uteruses are being forced to
Speaker 1: have to make these decisions before they even have as
Speaker 1: menstrual cycle. So there's that the other two cases right
Speaker 1: now that are and there are a couple of other
Speaker 1: cases one that I will say another insurrectionist was sentenced
Speaker 1: to prison, which is great, but again I believe that
Speaker 1: these people should have the books thrown at them. I
Speaker 1: saw on Twitter that somebody I believe it's Michael Harriet,
Speaker 1: one of the senior writers at the Root dot com
Speaker 1: and he's been on wok F tweeted that there are
Speaker 1: fifty people right now across the country that are serving
Speaker 1: life sentences for marijuana, while white people are making billions
Speaker 1: of dollars. If you can provide a life sentence for marijuana,
Speaker 1: you can provide a life sentence for trying to overthrow
Speaker 1: the government. And so those are the feelings that I
Speaker 1: have with regard to how our criminal justice system is
Speaker 1: completely unbalanced and purposefully. So. The other case that is
Speaker 1: starting is the Written House, the Kyle Rittenhouse case, where
Speaker 1: we have learned that Kyle Rittenhouse will most likely take
Speaker 1: the stand. One of the people who survived his brazen
Speaker 1: shootout spoke about and we saw a video of different
Speaker 1: vantage points of Kyle Rittenhouse going on the hunt for
Speaker 1: trouble and on the hunt for people. And I hope
Speaker 1: that those videos and the words of the victim that
Speaker 1: did survive, and the SI will use the word victim,
Speaker 1: Judge Schrober, you can go fuck yourself. Is that it
Speaker 1: resonates that we do not want to live in a society.
Speaker 1: And frankly, this is what the prosecution should ask the jury.
Speaker 1: What kind of world do you want to live in?
Speaker 1: Do you want to live in a society when anyone
Speaker 1: anywhere can sling an AAR fifteen over their shoulder and
Speaker 1: decide that they're going to go take the law into
Speaker 1: their own hands and just shoot people up and then
Speaker 1: are able to walk. Because if Kyle Rittenhouse is not
Speaker 1: prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and does
Speaker 1: not receive a guilty verdict and the maximum sentencing, then
Speaker 1: what you are setting up is that very scenario, Well,
Speaker 1: we will see angry, grieved white males grab guns and
Speaker 1: go out and solve their own problems or do what
Speaker 1: they've always wanted to do, which is hunt people of color. Right,
Speaker 1: which brings me to the other case that we are
Speaker 1: going to have eyes on on Woke a f which
Speaker 1: is the case that involved the murder of Ahmad Aubrey.
Speaker 1: The judge has already said that there is discrimination in
Speaker 1: terms of how the jury was selected in that case,
Speaker 1: with there being only one black juror that is going
Speaker 1: to be sitting in hearing this case of a group
Speaker 1: of white men that decided that they, once again, we're
Speaker 1: going to go on the hunt for a black person
Speaker 1: and then murder him in cold blood and think that
Speaker 1: that was going to be acceptable and without public outcry,
Speaker 1: once again, we would have never heard of a mod Aubrey, right,
Speaker 1: because the buddies on the police force were friends with
Speaker 1: the murderers, right, and without the outrage from the public,
Speaker 1: would have gotten away with it as they do across
Speaker 1: these small white towns every fucking where. Right. So we
Speaker 1: will see how this case unfolds with a jury of
Speaker 1: eleven white people and one black person and see whether
Speaker 1: or not a Mard Aubrey's family will receive justice. So
Speaker 1: coming up next, friends, is my conversation with my friend,
Speaker 1: colleague and activists Reverend Mark Thompson, host of Make It Plain.
Speaker 1: Let me know what you think about this conversation and
Speaker 1: frankly We're looking for a name for our crossover episode.
Speaker 1: So if you have an idea of how we can
Speaker 1: match together Make It Plain and Woke as Fuck, do
Speaker 1: drop it in the comments section, Folks. I am so
Speaker 1: excited to do a special that we have decided to
Speaker 1: do a crossover episode of Mark Thompson's Make It Plain
Speaker 1: and Woke as Fuck. So Mark and I have decided
Speaker 1: that as a countdown to the midterm elections, we are
Speaker 1: going to be gathering monthly and raging together about whether
Speaker 1: or not Democrats are going to be able to pull
Speaker 1: out a win and whether or not black people will
Speaker 1: continue to be blamed by their dysfunction. Mark, I am
Speaker 1: so happy to be back in studio with you. Um
Speaker 1: this week we got a take you say, crossover, What
Speaker 1: do you mean exactly? Crossover of our two shows. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: here you want to make sure. So this week we
Speaker 1: had a sample of what the midterm elections could potentially
Speaker 1: look like. We did not get election results, as we
Speaker 1: will no longer ever get the day of an election.
Speaker 1: We got results that in New Jersey the Democrat was
Speaker 1: able to screech by and for the first time in
Speaker 1: four decades New Jersey, folks, decided to re elect a Democrat,
Speaker 1: but in Virginia. Virginia has been the story of the week,
Speaker 1: whereas Terry mcculloff, who was trying to go for another
Speaker 1: stab at being governor, was defeated by newcomer businessman and
Speaker 1: Trump light or, as some have said, the delta variant
Speaker 1: of Trump, Glenn Yuncan, was able to snatch the governorship
Speaker 1: and essentially roll Virginia back into the nineteen fifties. Currently,
Speaker 1: black voters, once again by mainstream media and white pundents,
Speaker 1: are being blamed for Terry mcculloff's lackluster campaign. What are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on what happened in Virginia. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: it is fun to be with you, Daniel, looking forward
Speaker 1: to this. I think that first of all, Democrats, we've
Speaker 1: been fortunate in Virginia past few elections cycles because Virginia usually,
Speaker 1: like traditional midterms, goes back and forth. And the fact
Speaker 1: that it's stayed blue since Obama's first election, I mean
Speaker 1: that was a blessing that should not have been taken
Speaker 1: for granted. I think there were several issues in Virginia,
Speaker 1: first of all, that being one of those issues being
Speaker 1: Terry mcculiffe he was not the ideal candidate. He is
Speaker 1: a political operative, he always has been. He is not
Speaker 1: a charismatic, hope inspiring, social justice changing type politician. He's
Speaker 1: not going to inspire anybody of the polls. In fact,
Speaker 1: when he won the first time, it's pretty much what
Speaker 1: he was seeing as Also, people talk about culture wars,
Speaker 1: but let's talk about the culture of Virginia. You can
Speaker 1: only serve one term as governor. You can't succeed yourself,
Speaker 1: and so in four years, most Virginia governors are not
Speaker 1: that memorable. There's only so much you can do it
Speaker 1: for you. So it's not like somebody who has come
Speaker 1: to Virginia be the governor and is all of a
Speaker 1: sudden Lyndon Johnson. And I mean, who can name the
Speaker 1: greatest Virginia governor? No one. The only one that most
Speaker 1: people can name historically is L. Douglas Wilder, because he
Speaker 1: was the first African American one to make a decision
Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party to make a decision to resurrect
Speaker 1: a one term governor when you really can't point of
Speaker 1: anything he did. The nature of Virginia is to get
Speaker 1: a new person every four years. The Democrats should have
Speaker 1: followed that culture and gotten someone new for this four years.
Speaker 1: This is never has only happened one other time in
Speaker 1: history where a previous governor comes back later on to
Speaker 1: win again. That was sometime ago. Nobody remembers what he did,
Speaker 1: so that was a mistake, and let's be honest about it.
Speaker 1: Why did that happen? And I think this may not
Speaker 1: only be for telling for the midterms, but for the
Speaker 1: presidential election. Vice president's lieutenant governors are usually groomed or
Speaker 1: given a runway to be a successor. That would have
Speaker 1: been justin Fairfax now, not to litigate the charges against him.
Speaker 1: In this era of me too, there were charges brought
Speaker 1: up against Tim on the eve of Ralph Northam's presume
Speaker 1: presumptive resignation because of black face. And let's just be honest.
Speaker 1: We can support women, but we also have to state
Speaker 1: objective facts. Those allegations came up at that moment, and
Speaker 1: at that moment only didn't come up a week before
Speaker 1: or a week later, when Ralph Northam was pressured to resign,
Speaker 1: those allegations came up. So we just put that out there,
Speaker 1: that being the case that nullified Ralph Northam's resignation. It
Speaker 1: nullified Justin Fairfax being able to assume the governorship, and
Speaker 1: just even with those allegations being there and never really
Speaker 1: being resolved or litigated, it probably nullified Justin Fairfax's hopes
Speaker 1: of ever being governor. That's just a factum. So where
Speaker 1: there was there no one else. I don't believe that
Speaker 1: there were other black women who ran, and I'm not
Speaker 1: sure about the numbers. I'm looked at them. I think
Speaker 1: there were two black women and just Fairfax. And what
Speaker 1: do we do? We split the vote. It's like we did,
Speaker 1: and you didn't bring up Boston. Now the progressive A
Speaker 1: woman of color who won in Boston is progressive. She's good.
Speaker 1: But there were four black people on the ballot. All
Speaker 1: of their votes combined in Boston were greater than her votes,
Speaker 1: the votes for her. So that's what we do. We
Speaker 1: split up. And people should have been more intelligent about
Speaker 1: that in Virginia. But there were even black establishment Virginia
Speaker 1: politicians like um LeVar Stoney. I think he's the mayor
Speaker 1: of Richmond who had a an acquaintance with Justin Fairfax's accuser,
Speaker 1: and conspicuusly she comes forward. He's at this pushing for
Speaker 1: Terry McCullough, But what are you doing? I mean, even
Speaker 1: as a young black man, why wouldn't you push for
Speaker 1: someone else that could have won this? And again, it's
Speaker 1: not a personal attack on Terry. If somebody said marku
Speaker 1: Shrman for governor of Virginia, I shouldn't. It's not personal.
Speaker 1: That don't mean I'm a bad person or people should
Speaker 1: like me. That's just not what is appropriate at this time.
Speaker 1: I don't live in Virginia, I don't have Somebody who
Speaker 1: was indigenous to Virginia politics should have run for office
Speaker 1: in that state, and that's where it was. So that's
Speaker 1: the first mistake in terms of blaming black voters. Of
Speaker 1: course it's going to happen. But I'm gonna be real
Speaker 1: with y'all, and this is where folk might get a
Speaker 1: little uncomfortable. But the real culprit in this as always
Speaker 1: as white women. I mean, that's white women are responsible
Speaker 1: for Trump. In twenty sixteen, ye white women were almost
Speaker 1: responsible for Roy and Moore in Alabama. White women, Um so,
Speaker 1: I'm so. And our friend Ellie Mistol even tweeted, you mean,
Speaker 1: do you mean to say the day after their oral
Speaker 1: arguments to get rid of Row which is suppose see this,
Speaker 1: this is something that's scary. Row could actually save Democrats
Speaker 1: in the mid terms. And Row goes down, you would
Speaker 1: think more women of all colors would come out in droves.
Speaker 1: But what did Virginia women do. Oh no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: we don't care about that because we're more worried about
Speaker 1: critical race theory. Be more specific than that. Not just
Speaker 1: critical race theory, Danielle, but a black woman author. Come on,
Speaker 1: Come on, so what what is what is going on?
Speaker 1: And you know it's it's it's just like twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: white women elected Trump and then all of them were
Speaker 1: out with us at the Women's March on a day
Speaker 1: after innauguration? Is everybody back Poland how do you do that?
Speaker 1: How do you vote for him and then show up
Speaker 1: at the Women's march? That means you know something is wrong,
Speaker 1: something in therapy is not everybody's in therapy. Well, something
Speaker 1: may work in therapy. Mark my words, voted for Junkin.
Speaker 1: He's gonna do something crazy. It's gonna offend those women.
Speaker 1: Oh we shouldn't done it, But why did you do
Speaker 1: it in first place? Because I have said this over
Speaker 1: and over again, is that white women get their power
Speaker 1: from their proximity to white men, and that has that
Speaker 1: has been the case since slavery and beyond right is
Speaker 1: that so long as they is a white patriarchal figure
Speaker 1: in their life, that is where they will assume their
Speaker 1: power from. And you know, it's funny because was jahat
Speaker 1: Ali who I have to who I have to pull
Speaker 1: up because his peace in the Daily Beast that I
Speaker 1: read a part of it. I read a part of
Speaker 1: it yesterday on woke af because I said, you know,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Everybody consistently, consistently wants to call out
Speaker 1: black voters, wants to come for us and say, well,
Speaker 1: we're the reason why you're not going to get someone elected. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: we're the reason. We're the ones that are always showing
Speaker 1: up for you. We're the reason why Biden is president
Speaker 1: right now. And so what troubles me about white women
Speaker 1: in general is the fact that you know, he says
Speaker 1: in in wash his Peace, he says something like, you know,
Speaker 1: white women are never going to vote in favor of you.
Speaker 1: He's like he's he's like, here's the thing, and this
Speaker 1: is what and this is what this is what he
Speaker 1: wrote that I have to that I want. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to pull up. We will see if I can. But
Speaker 1: he basically said, if you wouldn't get your economic stability,
Speaker 1: you get your housing stability, you get all of those
Speaker 1: things from your proximity to white males. Why would you
Speaker 1: then decide to disrupt that? How does that work for you? Right?
Speaker 1: And so the reality is is that they do live
Speaker 1: in this very unbalanced and instable place because at one
Speaker 1: time they want to say, oh, well I am woman,
Speaker 1: hear me, roar. But then when you have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to step out on your own, they always always prove
Speaker 1: where their allegiance lies. And I saw when in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: I think I was the most shock that I had
Speaker 1: ever been because I said, one of your own is
Speaker 1: on the ballot. This woman, this white woman, is going
Speaker 1: to break the glass ceiling that you all in the
Speaker 1: first wave of feminis some second wave feminism have been
Speaker 1: talking about four fucking decades. And so here she is
Speaker 1: and they turned on her. Yeah, and with a quickness
Speaker 1: for a man that literally had said that he could
Speaker 1: grab a woman anywhere he wants because he's a star
Speaker 1: and he can do that. And they said, that's just
Speaker 1: the locker room talk. Yeah, yeah, Um the eggs of
Speaker 1: pose Virginia twenty twenty fifty percent white women fifty percent
Speaker 1: by forty nine percent Trump, which still too close. Um.
Speaker 1: The other night, white women fifty seven percent from young
Speaker 1: forty three percent for mcculloff. So it's a combination. It
Speaker 1: is there is in Wajahat is correct. Their proximity to
Speaker 1: whiteness plus the weakness of Terry McAuliffe. Terry mccauliffe is
Speaker 1: a He's an operator. Uh And I'm not even trying
Speaker 1: to say that in the pejorative since he's popular all
Speaker 1: of his all the Democratic Party elite and not so elite.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows Terry's friendly. I oh, hey, it was up,
Speaker 1: you know. But that's not a reason for him to
Speaker 1: run for governor Virginia. And this should have been thought
Speaker 1: out more strategically by the party to the extent that
Speaker 1: there is any party, and unfortunately we're in some situations
Speaker 1: where there is no real party, no real organization, nor
Speaker 1: real thought going on. People make political mistakes, but these
Speaker 1: types of mistakes are devastating. This was not really thought
Speaker 1: out well and it goes back to even before nor
Speaker 1: if if you look at the undermining of or the
Speaker 1: fall of Northam and Fairfax, they still had what a
Speaker 1: couple of years to try to come up with something,
Speaker 1: and they didn't. No one did. You couldn't even find
Speaker 1: a way. And I know a couple of people in
Speaker 1: that legislature who are black and minority of people of color.
Speaker 1: Somebody should have say, hey, let's get this person together
Speaker 1: run for governor like tonight, it could have been done
Speaker 1: two years ago. To Northam controversy was what almost two
Speaker 1: years ago, and when it was clear that Northam couldn't
Speaker 1: run again anyway, when it was clear that Justin never
Speaker 1: overcome that scandal. And I'm not adjudicating that, but once
Speaker 1: there's out there on you, there's not a whole lot
Speaker 1: you can do with it. So Justin was finished. I
Speaker 1: know we have friends who, oh, we gotta save Justin.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, that's not the air in
Speaker 1: which we live. No, and it may not be fair
Speaker 1: to him, the allegations may or may not be true,
Speaker 1: but the fact that they put that on him, So
Speaker 1: then you go back, you deal with that as a sidebar,
Speaker 1: but you recruit, cultivate, incubate, but to someone else to run.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing that Democrats don't ever do. They
Speaker 1: don't do with people of color, and they don't do well.
Speaker 1: And this is the thing that is frustrating me is
Speaker 1: that Republicans are running a playbook that they've been running
Speaker 1: for fifty years. Roe v. Wade passed in nineteen seventy three,
Speaker 1: and since nineteen seventy three and some minutes after right
Speaker 1: Republicans have gathered themselves and said we are going to
Speaker 1: overturn Roe v. Wade. For forty damn ne or fifty years,
Speaker 1: that has been of top of mind. No other issue
Speaker 1: has mattered. It has always been about judges. For them,
Speaker 1: has always been about the courts. Let us roll back
Speaker 1: Rob Wade so that we can reinstitute Christian white Christian
Speaker 1: fundamentalism as the core pinnacle of values and morals in
Speaker 1: this country. And people forget that the Pilgrims came here
Speaker 1: right because they were religious zealots, right, who decided that
Speaker 1: they wanted to be able to live the way that
Speaker 1: they wanted and then not have to deal with the
Speaker 1: king right and the monarchy. But they came here as
Speaker 1: religious zealots. That is the foundation, right of how we
Speaker 1: understand America. And so it's not shocking, and yet Democrats
Speaker 1: act every time that they are so blown away by
Speaker 1: what Republicans are doing. And I'm saying, but we saw
Speaker 1: the writing on the wall decades ago, so where was?
Speaker 1: Where is your long game? And this is what I
Speaker 1: realize about Virginia and I realize about all of these
Speaker 1: kind of purple states and then these right states, is
Speaker 1: that there's no significant investment that is made by Democrats.
Speaker 1: The reason why Roy Moore didn't become Senator of Alabama
Speaker 1: was because of black women and black people, not because
Speaker 1: of the DFCC and the DNC that decided to invest
Speaker 1: in Alabama because they saw it as like an opportunity.
Speaker 1: The fact is is that Democrats only see low hanging
Speaker 1: fruit as opportunity and they never want to sew any seeds.
Speaker 1: And then the question becomes for us going into the midterms,
Speaker 1: are do black women still have the morale or the
Speaker 1: desire to save America from itself when America that won't
Speaker 1: do a dog on thing in return, not even the
Speaker 1: littlest thing you know that we need or that we
Speaker 1: want as a people. Just over a dozen votes away
Speaker 1: from passage of HR forty, the Reparations Bill, Oh, we
Speaker 1: scared can't do that, Mark, but you know, can get
Speaker 1: anything from Bill backbetter. Nothing of the agenda is going forward.
Speaker 1: There's not a thin single thing we can point to
Speaker 1: that our community and we just focus on black women
Speaker 1: and black women specifically have benefited from let me a
Speaker 1: couple of small things. You know, the question becomes, what
Speaker 1: is the point? How many more people can we motivate
Speaker 1: out to the polls with that type of record coming
Speaker 1: from the Democratic Party and Joe Biden have a black
Speaker 1: woman as vice president, Well, what do we have to
Speaker 1: show it? And again it's not a personal tag against her, no,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a real question. It's a real question.
Speaker 1: And I asked this because Mark, you have been an
Speaker 1: activist on the front lines, marching for speaking out for
Speaker 1: social justice, for racial justice for over three decades. And
Speaker 1: my frustration is that how do we continue to get
Speaker 1: black people, young people, the bipoc, you know, people to
Speaker 1: want to go to the polls when it's been eleven
Speaker 1: months and we can't point to anything that Biden has done. Right,
Speaker 1: it's been and and everybody wants to tell me, well, Danielle,
Speaker 1: it's only been some months, right, But I don't also
Speaker 1: don't know where our vice president is. Have you seen her?
Speaker 1: Because because I haven't. Yeah, yeah, um that all of
Speaker 1: these things are problems. It's as though they want to lose,
Speaker 1: kind of like Obama in twenty ten. Obama came out
Speaker 1: early on after he was elected, sid I'm gonna lose
Speaker 1: the mid terms already. No, I'm gonna lose the bit terms.
Speaker 1: And we're like, why are you saying that? Why don't
Speaker 1: you try to fight for it? Was like they just
Speaker 1: accepted it, and some of the same operators that were
Speaker 1: in the Biden administration, I mean, the Obama administration around
Speaker 1: and I think they may have already conceded that, but
Speaker 1: it's going to be devastating UM. And and maybe they
Speaker 1: need to be honest about that that maybe the party
Speaker 1: itself needs a total overhaul and redirection. And I just
Speaker 1: don't see that as as forthcoming could bounce back from this.
Speaker 1: But there's gonna have to be a list of some
Speaker 1: stuff is gonna have to get done. The people gonna
Speaker 1: have to see some type of track record in this
Speaker 1: UM and there's gonna have to be some you know,
Speaker 1: some backbone in the party it's candidates and in its rhetoric,
Speaker 1: and that is really the message from Virginia. There's going
Speaker 1: to have to be a direct call out of specific
Speaker 1: issues for Candida. I just don't think they can run
Speaker 1: an anti Trump message in every district. UM deal with
Speaker 1: the candidate that's there and call that person out specifically
Speaker 1: like they should have done, yun Ken. I think those
Speaker 1: are things that are gonna have to gonna have to
Speaker 1: happen to have any shot of holding the House, much
Speaker 1: less the Senate. UM and then put some candidates out
Speaker 1: there that are really going to inspire people, not the
Speaker 1: same old UM. I don't really like the term corporate
Speaker 1: because any given day somebody can be corporate or not,
Speaker 1: but more so people with with energy, enthusiasm, progressive ideas.
Speaker 1: It's the progressive ideas and agenda that most voters are
Speaker 1: motivated by any way. And if to the extent I
Speaker 1: mentioned cultural wars earlier, don't want to get in, but
Speaker 1: to get into that now, Okay, So if there is
Speaker 1: a cultural war coming up going going on, let's take
Speaker 1: a claim and get in it. You know, is the
Speaker 1: culture war about white supremacy versus is justice? Let's call
Speaker 1: that what it is. Right, celebrating the Confederacy, all the things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all of that. I mean, let's call it out and
Speaker 1: let us offer alternatives as Democrats for the opposite. Let's
Speaker 1: expand curricular. First of all, critical race theory is taught
Speaker 1: at the earliest at the graduate level. There is no
Speaker 1: such thing. They are weaponizing something in the same way
Speaker 1: they're weaponized Jeremiah right and Jim Cone into thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: you mean to tell me, in all these years you
Speaker 1: have been maybe to figure out an answer to that,
Speaker 1: You're just gonna ignore it, you know, succumb to it.
Speaker 1: We've got to know, we've got to draw these uh,
Speaker 1: these challenges, and the only way to do that is
Speaker 1: by having inspiring candidates that inspire and motivate BIPOC voters
Speaker 1: to the polls and give them something to do. But
Speaker 1: then but then you also at the same time have
Speaker 1: to show have something to show for it. This is
Speaker 1: what Democrats have done since we fought to get Biden
Speaker 1: elected and to bring a House and sent a majority,
Speaker 1: nothing to show for nothing. And you know what really
Speaker 1: is troubling to me is that my mother, right, staunch Democrat,
Speaker 1: used to sit herself in front of MSNBC every day
Speaker 1: all day, has become absolutely disgusted with mainstream cable news.
Speaker 1: Has become absolute disgusted with the political climate. She told
Speaker 1: me the other day. She goes, yeah, I don't watch
Speaker 1: anything anymore. I just need your sixty second updates. And
Speaker 1: I'm good because I don't need to steep myself in
Speaker 1: this toxicity. And I think to myself, if you are
Speaker 1: turning if the Democrats are turning off people like my mother, right,
Speaker 1: a black woman, business, small business owner, immigrant to this country.
Speaker 1: You know, middle class, highly educated, second, you know, multiple degrees.
Speaker 1: If you are turning her off, then how do we
Speaker 1: have any possibility of turning on folks who were never
Speaker 1: engaged in the first place? And the things that you
Speaker 1: were offering are the things that we've been saying. Yeah. Right,
Speaker 1: So we have a new head of the DNC. Right,
Speaker 1: you have Jamie Harrison black Man. Right, you have all
Speaker 1: of these black politicos that are in places of power now,
Speaker 1: and yet Mark nothing has seemed to change. Why is that?
Speaker 1: Are we just putting black faces in high spaces and
Speaker 1: assuming that that is enough? Well breaking news? The chair
Speaker 1: of the the DNC has little or no power, influence, or authority.
Speaker 1: And I know Jamie loved brother, He's a good brother.
Speaker 1: But that's not where the source of change and influence is.
Speaker 1: It's it's sort of in you know, it's really an
Speaker 1: honorary position. It's the people who run these local races
Speaker 1: that are important, and Jamie really can't tell them what
Speaker 1: to do. I think we have an embedded consultant class
Speaker 1: throughout the Democratic Party, and these consultants are mostly white,
Speaker 1: many of them Zuckerberg types, and they think they know
Speaker 1: everything and they just don't. And people like us don't
Speaker 1: know squat. They think we're not qualified or intelligent enough
Speaker 1: to offer any type of input or advice in these situations.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where the problem is. That a
Speaker 1: Terry mcculoff campaign that wasn't just a casual decision that
Speaker 1: he and some friends made, that was consultant to death.
Speaker 1: This is what you do want to do it, right?
Speaker 1: They I'm assuming they focus grouped that. Yeah, and they
Speaker 1: and it was stupid. Even the whole idea behind him
Speaker 1: running all of that was a mistake and a real
Speaker 1: long shot. And so I think that all of this
Speaker 1: has to be rethought reset, and it starts at the top.
Speaker 1: I mean, you cannot have a president who is beholden
Speaker 1: to one at the most wanting to have if you
Speaker 1: include cinema senators, So, Daniel, most of us went to school, elementary,
Speaker 1: high school. Who the presidents. We learned about a school,
Speaker 1: We learned about Lincoln, we learned about Roosevelt, you know,
Speaker 1: we learned about Kennedy, Johnson and mixing because of Watergate,
Speaker 1: and now Obama because it was first. So that's pretty
Speaker 1: much what you get. So you go through the history
Speaker 1: of those presidents and you get to Johnson, what's the
Speaker 1: first thing or even after they are here, with presidents
Speaker 1: who got things done in spite of the legislature or
Speaker 1: with the support of legislature, there's no day, there's no
Speaker 1: lesson in school. There's no page in the history book
Speaker 1: that explains a senator controlling a president. And so that's incomprehensible.
Speaker 1: So I think, what happens with your vomit? Everybody else
Speaker 1: it's a hamstudent. What I need to the cable news
Speaker 1: because cable news can't even explain it. It's incomprehensible and
Speaker 1: inexplicable for people to say, wait a minute, we vote
Speaker 1: of him, but why can't he get anything done? Mansion, mansion, mansion,
Speaker 1: there's the people don't that doesn't compute for people. I mean,
Speaker 1: you turn it off. We hear that man's name Mansion,
Speaker 1: more than I hear Biden's name, and frankly more than
Speaker 1: I have heard our you know, vice president who I
Speaker 1: said the other day, I want to put on a
Speaker 1: milk carton because I honestly don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's strategy that they are keeping Kamala Harris out
Speaker 1: of you know, the limelight, or or what is happening there.
Speaker 1: But the reality is is that what pisses people off,
Speaker 1: like my mother, is that she didn't have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to vote for Joe Mansion. She don't live in West
Speaker 1: vir right, she don't live in Arizona, so she sure
Speaker 1: is hel didn't vote for Kristen Cinema. So when we
Speaker 1: look at these things that we say, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: the balance of power is absolutely off in so many ways.
Speaker 1: I mean, we have workers' strikes happening in across industries
Speaker 1: because we realize that the capitalist structure that we live
Speaker 1: in is unbalanced, right, and so our society, our political
Speaker 1: landscape is so unbalanced where you have exactly one and
Speaker 1: a half senators that no one voted for outside of
Speaker 1: their combined maybe fourteen, maybe ten million people that live
Speaker 1: in those places combined, right, that voted for them. And
Speaker 1: so if you are a person that believes in the
Speaker 1: power of your citizensury and the responsibility thereof, and then
Speaker 1: you recognize that the person that you voted for is
Speaker 1: beholden to them, then you're going to start second guessing
Speaker 1: your vote and why how you voted to begin with
Speaker 1: right right, well, and and again it's frustrating because nobody
Speaker 1: can understand it. Nobody can can explain it. So you
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. Mansions for sale, see it again,
Speaker 1: it's the consultant class. It. Well, you can do this
Speaker 1: to it. We don't hear from common because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you one thing the consultant class I think really
Speaker 1: has perfected is the art of nothingness. Don't take it.
Speaker 1: Vice President Daniel Moody Mills LAILO. Don't take a position
Speaker 1: on anything because you can't. Then you can't be held
Speaker 1: a counter everything, you can't be blamed for anything. So
Speaker 1: just kind of fading to the back. I mean, I
Speaker 1: really think that's what the mentality is. Don't take a
Speaker 1: hard line position or step out there on anything. Plus
Speaker 1: the fact in terms of mansion. He's for sale. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so wait a minute. Democratic Party, somebody was saying, uh,
Speaker 1: Black Women's views on Twitter was saying, one thing we
Speaker 1: need a couple of days break from is all these
Speaker 1: emails and texts to send five dollars because you're only
Speaker 1: doing nothing with the money. Obviously, y'all Democrats with sendmi
Speaker 1: five dollars. Give us a just give us the weekend
Speaker 1: off after a gin. You didn't go back Monday, but
Speaker 1: they still the next day they text and send it.
Speaker 1: Send some money, sends some money. People sick of that.
Speaker 1: They burned out from it. But the fact is the Democrats,
Speaker 1: unlike Democrats of thirty years ago, raised a whole lot
Speaker 1: of money, got big Hollywood constituencies. If matching is for sale,
Speaker 1: go back. What is your price? You w what is
Speaker 1: the price now? One price might be And Marcos and
Speaker 1: Daily Coast have talked about this. The Democrats are considering
Speaker 1: some form of restitution, you could almost call the reparations
Speaker 1: for families whose children were taken from them and dislocated
Speaker 1: right during it. And I'm not opposed to that. That
Speaker 1: should happen, just like HR four, they should happen. But
Speaker 1: that's a whole other situation. That's not even the money yet,
Speaker 1: but they don't. They're scared of that, So do that.
Speaker 1: But go to Joe manchioner, their bad West Virginia, who's struggling,
Speaker 1: who's poor. They would benefit from bill back better in
Speaker 1: West Virginia, even more than we would. So okay, let's
Speaker 1: put in the bill all these coal miners and coal
Speaker 1: miners families who are in an obsolete entry industry. Let's
Speaker 1: put him on a pension from from now to the
Speaker 1: rest of their lives. Pay him who would be opposed
Speaker 1: to take them? Take them, cut Joe under his very
Speaker 1: knees with his own constituency. Let's take care of those people.
Speaker 1: So he didn't have that as an excuse anymore. They
Speaker 1: are taken care of because their industry is dead. They're
Speaker 1: paid for life. What's your excuse now? But if he's
Speaker 1: for sale, then going by him all this will we
Speaker 1: gotta see what he's gonna do, and let's just kind
Speaker 1: of talk what is it? And Joe Biden is supposed
Speaker 1: to be as much a master of the Senate and
Speaker 1: Senate politics as LBJ was, So people like your mom,
Speaker 1: I know, and others don't get it. And so there's
Speaker 1: a point if you don't get you turned on on
Speaker 1: TV off, This is not telling you anything if you
Speaker 1: can't explain to me how the's one person this has
Speaker 1: never happened before in history. One senator and then then Biden.
Speaker 1: Then who was a consultant watched this? Who was a consultant?
Speaker 1: Y'all to says, now, before you go to Rome, go
Speaker 1: give a speech and say this is the biggest moment
Speaker 1: of your agenda, and if this doesn't pass, then that
Speaker 1: will define your presidency. And I need this pass before
Speaker 1: I leave a room. Don't do that before you know
Speaker 1: if you've really got the votes or not, even on
Speaker 1: the progressive side. Not to mention Mansion because Mansion never
Speaker 1: agreed to it. And that's what Jara Paul and everybody
Speaker 1: else sait, Wait a minute, has Mansion agreed to this?
Speaker 1: Corey Bush had a good suggestion, make them in the
Speaker 1: Senate pass build back better before we pass infastr That's
Speaker 1: what I said, the same thing. And Representative Corey Bush
Speaker 1: is so strategic and so smart, because I am so
Speaker 1: tired too of Nancy Pelosi saying, well, we've passed hundreds
Speaker 1: of pieces of legislation in the house. I don't give
Speaker 1: a damn right, because to me, that is like a
Speaker 1: substitute teacher coming into a class and saying, here are
Speaker 1: all the dittos that you need to fill out until
Speaker 1: your real teacher comes back, because I just need to
Speaker 1: keep you busy. Yeah, right, And so this is this
Speaker 1: is the problem that we are going to continue to
Speaker 1: have until we restabilize right our political landscape and recognize
Speaker 1: who actually should have the power and who doesn't and
Speaker 1: figure out how to reorient that. Folks. This is our
Speaker 1: first ever, make it plain and woke as fuck crossover.
Speaker 1: We are trying to come up with a name for
Speaker 1: what it's going to be when Mark and I sit
Speaker 1: down and talk once a month. So if you have ideas,
Speaker 1: drop them in the comments section on both of our
Speaker 1: shows and let us know. Mark, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We gotta go rage against the machine, but off the mic.
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