Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff
Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey you, welcome to Stuff to Blow
Speaker 1: your Mind. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas,
Speaker 1: and we are reaching to you one way or another
Speaker 1: through the Internet. We are crawling out to you through
Speaker 1: the quote unquote into webs, through the tubes, slithering our
Speaker 1: way towards your ear, yeah, sometimes traveling through the air, uh,
Speaker 1: and then into a device, and then through chords through
Speaker 1: the air again and then into your skull, which is uh.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the way the Internet gets it gets
Speaker 1: it hooks into you, you know, it gets it roots
Speaker 1: down into you, like like some sort of organism and
Speaker 1: an organism that just continues to grow and to grow
Speaker 1: and to consume and consume. And where does it all end. Well,
Speaker 1: eventually it goes into space, right yeah, I mean, which
Speaker 1: just what we're gonna talk about today. We're talking about
Speaker 1: this idea of a space that is a networked space
Speaker 1: that um, we live in. I mean, it's it's really
Speaker 1: crazy when you when you think of the Internet in
Speaker 1: terms of like human culture is sort of half biological
Speaker 1: and structural and then half information half Internet. Like we
Speaker 1: are where does humanity end and Internet began at this
Speaker 1: point you know well, and you've said before um um,
Speaker 1: and I agree, like we already are cyborgs to some extent.
Speaker 1: So this is just sort of a natural, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: outburst of what we have here on planet Earth that
Speaker 1: we will take into space for many good reasons, I think, um.
Speaker 1: But before we talk about that, I did want to
Speaker 1: talk about how this this is something that will happen
Speaker 1: based on what we've seen here on Earth. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure all heard of something called Moore's law, this idea
Speaker 1: that computing power doubles every two years. And we've seen
Speaker 1: this with you know, technology at least since the seven
Speaker 1: in ds UM on a very grand scale. So now
Speaker 1: that there's this idea of something called the Internet of things,
Speaker 1: and this is an idea of a lot of two
Speaker 1: way interaction between people using open source software systems to
Speaker 1: share ideas, create ideas out of basically thin air. Um
Speaker 1: fab Labs is something that m I T Professor Neil
Speaker 1: gershon Field created. It's essentially computer labs all of the
Speaker 1: world that use open software so that just about anybody
Speaker 1: who's interested can dream up a thing in a computer
Speaker 1: model and then make it UM. So it's about this
Speaker 1: idea about how we're we've gone beyond not just being
Speaker 1: networked and sharing information, but now creating things out of it.
Speaker 1: Is very interesting and that's why they call it the
Speaker 1: Internet of things. UM. You know, look back to sixth
Speaker 1: cents uh, wearable technology. We talked about this before. All surfaces,
Speaker 1: all things become networked, can project um. These networks are
Speaker 1: that this internet capabilities basically onto anything, right, and everything
Speaker 1: is is taking a new data, collecting data and passing
Speaker 1: it one potentially giving a stata as well. Your refrigerator
Speaker 1: is telling you that your eggs are expired. The chair
Speaker 1: that you're sitting in is telling you that, um, you
Speaker 1: know your your vital signs are the following or your
Speaker 1: moods are the following. Based on this UM everything becomes
Speaker 1: alive and networked. And so it's very interesting to think that, um,
Speaker 1: you now you can create something just out of your
Speaker 1: head and say, okay, well let's let's you know, rig
Speaker 1: up this three D printing and I'm going to create
Speaker 1: a piece of jewelry that I've just designed or an organ. Right,
Speaker 1: So okay, what do you do once you have networked
Speaker 1: the earth and every imaginable surface becomes alive with data.
Speaker 1: What do you do? I mean you well, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, you do whatever you want, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like the utimate freedom. You're not ultimately creative freedom
Speaker 1: in a way, though you can see where it could
Speaker 1: sort of lead to creative stagmentation as well. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean there's this idea that we are in a
Speaker 1: weird way. If you take a space analogy where there's
Speaker 1: you know, microgravity or you know, nearly the void here
Speaker 1: that there's no gravity, the same thing is happening on
Speaker 1: a technological scale that we're not moored by our computer
Speaker 1: equipment anymore. Now it's all sort of becoming UM, this
Speaker 1: free floating thing, this cloud computing, UM, this wearable technology
Speaker 1: that doesn't tether us to something. So it would make
Speaker 1: sense that we would look to the skies and say, okay,
Speaker 1: if we are going to um continue manned and robotic missions,
Speaker 1: which we are, then we need to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to connect ourselves planet to planet UM and uh,
Speaker 1: you know wherever else we go out there in the wild. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we end up pursuing this idea of an interplanetary internet,
Speaker 1: and this has been on has been on the table
Speaker 1: for you years, um, and we've had several projects come along,
Speaker 1: um and uh, you know with with varying degrees of
Speaker 1: success or cancelation. I mean you've had the canceled Mars
Speaker 1: Telecommunications orbiter. There was deep impact networking uh DP in
Speaker 1: on the I S, S S. Astronauts are using Facebook already,
Speaker 1: And I mean it all comes down to, alright, we're
Speaker 1: gonna send probes out. We want these, we need these
Speaker 1: probes to communicate with us. They are part of our technology,
Speaker 1: they're part of our technological information culture. They are they
Speaker 1: are parts of humanity, and so they need to be
Speaker 1: connected to us by this greasy tentacle of data. And
Speaker 1: uh and for that in place, we need an Internet
Speaker 1: connection out there. We need to be able to to
Speaker 1: set up the the servers that make this possible. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm surely if we wireless, because yeah, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: just a mess, isn't it. Um? And yeah, let's extrapolate
Speaker 1: this out ten tho years from now. And we you know,
Speaker 1: we just talked about this idea of a colonizing space.
Speaker 1: So what sort of you know, virtual life can you
Speaker 1: create out in space? And what will it look like um,
Speaker 1: you know, on each planet or you know in each
Speaker 1: area that we decided to focus on, and will it
Speaker 1: be worth living if you don't have a good Internet
Speaker 1: connection out there? Right? Well? Yeah, I mean that part
Speaker 1: of the reason why UM on the International Space Station
Speaker 1: they have UM Internet capability is this idea that you
Speaker 1: can tap back into life on Earth. Again, if it's
Speaker 1: a huge psychological factor to be able to feel connected,
Speaker 1: what's interesting those you and and again it you also
Speaker 1: get into ideas of if we can't physically go to places,
Speaker 1: then we can digitally go to them. We can we
Speaker 1: can control and communicate with distant probes. We can conceivably
Speaker 1: use virtual reality or UM or or even digitized consciousness
Speaker 1: if you really want to look long term to actually
Speaker 1: travel there in the form of a machine or or
Speaker 1: a mechanical avatar. UM. All these things are kind of
Speaker 1: on the table long term. But but you need that
Speaker 1: Internet in place to do it. But it's not just
Speaker 1: as simple as oh, now we have wireless and expans
Speaker 1: tremendous distances. You end up with it with a number
Speaker 1: of problems you have to deal with. First of all,
Speaker 1: satellite maintenance. If you have various satellites and servers out
Speaker 1: there floating around. Um. You know, they might not have
Speaker 1: to deal with a ton of of maintenance, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna still have your You're still expanding, You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to maintain this network. There's also the possibility of hackers
Speaker 1: and break in. So I mean hackers. Hacker is gonna hack, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just how it goes. It doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: you you need to make sense because you might say, oh,
Speaker 1: why would a hacker mess with our ability to communicate
Speaker 1: with space? Probs, they'll do it because that's what they do.
Speaker 1: Because some of them are fifteen yeah, you know, um,
Speaker 1: and then they'll be varying levels of people making political statements, etcetera.
Speaker 1: But we've we've seen enough of our history that that
Speaker 1: they are just a part of it. They're the germs,
Speaker 1: um or that what depends on the point of view.
Speaker 1: You could also see them as a at times as
Speaker 1: a defensive part of an immune system as well. But
Speaker 1: they are inniably a part of our information technological culture.
Speaker 1: Well and right now. I mean, security is a huge
Speaker 1: issue and a lot of people have bandied about the
Speaker 1: idea of quantum cryptology. But um or cryptography. But even
Speaker 1: that is not secure, that is breakable. So yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: is it possible to even have a super secure system,
Speaker 1: I mean really anything attackable At that point, you can't
Speaker 1: use the honor system at all, even with even with
Speaker 1: space travel. Uh. And then the other big thing is
Speaker 1: the is that when we when we're dealing with long
Speaker 1: distances like this, we're dealing with cosmic distances, be it
Speaker 1: from say Earth to Uranus or Earth to some distance system,
Speaker 1: you're dealing with speed of light delays. Okay, so on
Speaker 1: Earth we have two community computers connected to the Internet,
Speaker 1: maybe there are a few thousand miles away at most,
Speaker 1: and uh, the information can travel is really remarkable speeds.
Speaker 1: It's it's almost instantaneous. I have a bit of data,
Speaker 1: I send it to you and wham it's fair. Right,
Speaker 1: but how fast can we actually send data? Right? Light
Speaker 1: travels at eighties six thousand miles per second, so it
Speaker 1: only takes a you know, a few factions was a
Speaker 1: second to send a packet of data from one computer
Speaker 1: to another. In contrast, distances between a station on Earth
Speaker 1: and one on Mars can be between thirty eight million
Speaker 1: miles and two eight million miles, so these distances, you
Speaker 1: can take several minutes or hours for a radio signal
Speaker 1: to reach a receiving station. Yeah, and can I let
Speaker 1: me jump in and just talk about this packet of
Speaker 1: data that that gets transmitted because of the World Science
Speaker 1: Festival UM. On a panel about the past history of
Speaker 1: Internet in the future, they talked about what it takes
Speaker 1: to transmit this packet and I find it fascinating if
Speaker 1: you break it down and then you start to think
Speaker 1: about it in the void. So okay, let's say a
Speaker 1: person in England clicks on a World Science Festival link.
Speaker 1: This is what happens, and I'll just run you through it,
Speaker 1: because like fascinating to me at least. First, a server
Speaker 1: asked for a copy of the page that you want
Speaker 1: to look at, basically, and then this request is wrapped
Speaker 1: in data including the World Science Festival's i P address.
Speaker 1: The packet leaves the home computer, travels underground via copper
Speaker 1: wire network, routes itself through a regional network, then ends
Speaker 1: up at an Internet hub at Telehouse North in London. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this hub then looks at it and says, okay,
Speaker 1: this packets UM. Well, the World Science Festival server is
Speaker 1: in l A. So we're gonna have to get this
Speaker 1: over there, so tell a house North then sends the
Speaker 1: packet out is light through fiber optic cables in the ocean,
Speaker 1: where the packet is then routed to a hub in
Speaker 1: New York. The hub sends the packet through a series
Speaker 1: of regional networks there until it reaches the server in
Speaker 1: l A. Okay, this is crazy, right, because this is
Speaker 1: a lot of things. It's not even done yet, it's
Speaker 1: halfway there, but there's a ton of things happening here. Uh.
Speaker 1: The server then receives and reads the request and gets
Speaker 1: ready to send information to England. But web pages are
Speaker 1: like they're way too large to be sent as a
Speaker 1: single packet of data, So the data spread out into
Speaker 1: tiny packets of data, each one wrapped in the information
Speaker 1: it needs to then rebuild itself back in England. And
Speaker 1: then these packets are then checked and sent by the
Speaker 1: hub in l A back to New York and back
Speaker 1: through the fiberactive cables to England and back through that
Speaker 1: regional network and then back to the man of the
Speaker 1: copper wire back to that home in England, where they
Speaker 1: all form into one cohesive web page. And this whole
Speaker 1: journey takes one second. Okay. So that's that's one of
Speaker 1: those things that we just completely take for granted that
Speaker 1: that our networks are are so well tied together and
Speaker 1: their data is being parsed out in such a way
Speaker 1: the to you know, give us the data that we want,
Speaker 1: you know, one second later. So when we're talking about
Speaker 1: sending information out to sam Mars colony or or a
Speaker 1: or a space probe, that's uh, that's that's sailing away
Speaker 1: from our system. We're talking about taking information, breaking up
Speaker 1: into pieces and then sending a swarm of those pieces
Speaker 1: at the destination. Right. So I mean there's there's different
Speaker 1: protocols here, and that's what they're trying to figure out.
Speaker 1: Vincent Serf, who is called the father of the Internet, um,
Speaker 1: also works for Google now their head evangelist or something, yeah,
Speaker 1: chief evangelist Officers and something like that. Um, he's actually
Speaker 1: creating those protocols and standardizing them so that everybody can
Speaker 1: use them, um, every nation that wants to. And it's
Speaker 1: it's again, it's it's a little bit different because it's
Speaker 1: going to be networked different. The highway is going to
Speaker 1: be um, you know, it's not It's like we can
Speaker 1: just run FIBERCT cables up, you know, to Mars, right,
Speaker 1: and we have to we have to factor in data loss.
Speaker 1: We have to factor in that you're not going to
Speaker 1: have a consistent stream of information between these two places,
Speaker 1: even though there are some really interesting UM plans for
Speaker 1: you know, partially using lasers to pitch this information out there,
Speaker 1: but but ultimately well, one of the things that really
Speaker 1: fascinates me is the idea that assuming that we we
Speaker 1: do not find a loophole in um in in the
Speaker 1: the speed limit of light in terms of transferring information,
Speaker 1: assuming that we're long term, we're beholden to that law
Speaker 1: that that no information, no spaceship, nothing can travel faster
Speaker 1: than a beam of light across the galaxy. We end
Speaker 1: up with a situation where you could say, let's say
Speaker 1: you have Earth, all right, and you have Earth's Internet
Speaker 1: and it's localized Internet, and then let's say you have
Speaker 1: a distant colony at what distance do you end up
Speaker 1: having this mitosis of of internet and this mitosis of
Speaker 1: culture to where h as interconnected as we feel with
Speaker 1: our internet, um you would end up in a situation where, uh,
Speaker 1: due to this time delay of sending information. You would
Speaker 1: you would have these two colonies in touch with each
Speaker 1: other and they would have regular updates about their news,
Speaker 1: but you would have uh, growing and ever distancing Internet cultures.
Speaker 1: So new memes that are that are particularly only to
Speaker 1: this world, up to the date information, up to date
Speaker 1: information that's specific only to this world, uh, and they
Speaker 1: sort of grow into different informational cultural environments. I mean,
Speaker 1: what you're talking about here is the evolution of language. UM.
Speaker 1: And I read this UM, and some of them share
Speaker 1: that we prepared. We were talking about living in space
Speaker 1: that eventually, UM, that even speech patterns would be altered
Speaker 1: because sound travels a little bit differently and so UM.
Speaker 1: You know, essentially you can still communicate with one another,
Speaker 1: but over a hundred thousand years, you know, speech patterns
Speaker 1: may change very differently for people who are living off
Speaker 1: Earth permanently. UM. So that's really interesting that you bring
Speaker 1: up the memes and the metaphors that someone on Earth
Speaker 1: may not be able to get. If you know, someone's
Speaker 1: living on Mars because you have a completely different environment.
Speaker 1: You know, the sun um is beating down on you
Speaker 1: in a completely different way. And to try to communicate
Speaker 1: that to someone else outside of that experience. That's what
Speaker 1: causes you know, different cultures in different languages, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it to go back to you know, in
Speaker 1: the past we've discussed say artificial gravity, magical artificial gravity,
Speaker 1: and how that's something that sort of shows up in
Speaker 1: science fiction and we just you know, we don't think
Speaker 1: about it all that much. Spaceship it has gravity like
Speaker 1: Earth because people to film that way and we don't
Speaker 1: have to think that hard about it. Likewise, you see,
Speaker 1: you know classic Star Trek, right, two individuals are talking
Speaker 1: to each other is just you know, ones on one
Speaker 1: screen the others on the other. And we often we
Speaker 1: often don't a factor in these vast distances that we're
Speaker 1: communicating across because we're probably already skimming over how we're
Speaker 1: traveling those distances, are using um, potentially problematic science to
Speaker 1: explain in a galactic travel, So in a galactic communication
Speaker 1: that just you know, penciled inn in the margins. Uh
Speaker 1: but uh but but to you have to imagine of
Speaker 1: a future where these different worlds have have different Internet
Speaker 1: that that communicating between uh one colony and another would
Speaker 1: it would harken back to the days of sending a
Speaker 1: telegram or or snail mail where you would have to
Speaker 1: wait for this packet of data to travel at even
Speaker 1: at just a phenomenal speeds to travel, to be received
Speaker 1: and then to travel back to you. Um, it's it's
Speaker 1: fascinating because I mean, the more we see the Internet
Speaker 1: in the speed of information unitis here on Earth and
Speaker 1: uh and in our more optimistic moments, we imagine it
Speaker 1: ultimately bring us all together. Um, the idea that that
Speaker 1: just isn't possible given the vast distances in the in
Speaker 1: the the speed limit of light when it comes to
Speaker 1: envisioning our future out in the stars. Well, and there's
Speaker 1: also this question of who who is? Uh? When I
Speaker 1: say who, I mean more like national identity. Who is
Speaker 1: going to be creating this network and dominating it? Right?
Speaker 1: Because well, not presumably, but most likely there's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be one player in here that's going to have more
Speaker 1: of an influence um, what gets designed and how it
Speaker 1: influences our communication. So it's it's interesting, which is unavoidable
Speaker 1: you end up with like Catholic Google and then Eastern
Speaker 1: Orthodox Google. Right, Well, I don't know, because here's the thing,
Speaker 1: Like you know, again, if you're living on Mars, do
Speaker 1: you have. You've talked about this before too extensively. What
Speaker 1: does religion mean in space at that point? With that
Speaker 1: perspective of so, there could be very huge cultural divides. Um.
Speaker 1: And that's not necessarily what we were intending to talk
Speaker 1: about today, like this offer cultural divide brought on by
Speaker 1: the Internet. But we've already um been able to look
Speaker 1: at the Internet in retrospect and see how influences culture. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting to extrapolate that mount into space. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the part of this. It really
Speaker 1: blows my mind. I mean because the idea of all right, well,
Speaker 1: you know, how do we have have space probs communicate
Speaker 1: with each other, how an offerable colony communicate with us?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's really fascinating. I love that. But when
Speaker 1: you start thinking about the cultural ramifications and the personal ramifications, um,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's where I really connect with the issue.
Speaker 1: So all right, hey, we're gonna take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we come back. We're gonna wrap things up and
Speaker 1: we're gonna run through some liner mail. All right, we
Speaker 1: have returned. Um. So yeah, there's just a little bit
Speaker 1: of of insight into where we're going with the internet, um,
Speaker 1: immediately and then long term as we're trying to imagine
Speaker 1: what life beyond our world might consist of, especially when
Speaker 1: you when you think of the human race, is not
Speaker 1: nearly this organic thing or even this uh, this world
Speaker 1: of things, but this internet of things, this internet of existence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well let's uh, let's take a look at
Speaker 1: a couple of data packets that came in. Oh yes, yes,
Speaker 1: bring us some of these robot the listener mail. All right.
Speaker 1: First of all, um, I think was the fiction podcast
Speaker 1: where we're talking about the way fiction alters our perception
Speaker 1: of reality and ultimately the manifestation of reality around us,
Speaker 1: especially in terms of culture, not so much the laws
Speaker 1: of physics, but but certainly the way that we behave
Speaker 1: as a as a people. Um. I think that was
Speaker 1: the one where I brought up that I did not
Speaker 1: really understand what she's a brick house. She's mighty mighty
Speaker 1: hang out what that means. But because it because time
Speaker 1: I hear she's a brick house, I imagine a woman
Speaker 1: made out of bricks, and I don't see how that's
Speaker 1: particularly attractive because it's a woman made up of bricks.
Speaker 1: And we were talking about the tactile parts of our
Speaker 1: brains that respond to metaphors, if I remember correctly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so Jim writes in and he explained it. He says,
Speaker 1: she's a brick house because she's stacked, as like bricks
Speaker 1: are stacked. Shack it down, shack it down, now, Jim
Speaker 1: in New Jersey. So I guess that makes sense. She's
Speaker 1: so that the whole thing is that's bricks are stacked.
Speaker 1: She is stacked, stacked in the sense that she's put
Speaker 1: together and busty, right, That that what I'm getting here. Yeah, busty,
Speaker 1: it would say, is what stacks means. Yeah, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: Well that I'm still picturing a woman made out of bricks,
Speaker 1: but I have a little more background on that now.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the funky inside the Jim Um. We
Speaker 1: received some more listener mail regarding the episode The Horror,
Speaker 1: where we talked about how our brains working when watching
Speaker 1: scary movie these want we're addicted to it and uh
Speaker 1: and that, you know, really connected with a number of people.
Speaker 1: We heard from a listener by the name of Sean
Speaker 1: Uh Sean Nicoliffe I can use his last name since
Speaker 1: he's writing online here, and Hedio writes and to say
Speaker 1: I recently listened to your show about horror, and being
Speaker 1: a staff writer for horror Attics dot net, wanted to
Speaker 1: send my thoughts. I primarily do reviews of horror films,
Speaker 1: and with over sixty films I've reviewed, I've covered decades
Speaker 1: and uh and genres of film. I've come to believe
Speaker 1: and this is my personal opinion, but the type of
Speaker 1: of horror a fan wraps their mind around depends a
Speaker 1: lot on their age. Those who are younger under twenty
Speaker 1: five seem to go for the quick slasher types of movies,
Speaker 1: these being things like Saw, Final Destination and just gore
Speaker 1: Field films. In general, this is because they are used
Speaker 1: to more instant gratification and their attentions fans are a
Speaker 1: bit short. As we get older, our case may change
Speaker 1: is we look for people to scare our our minds,
Speaker 1: and thus one horror that hits the mind more than
Speaker 1: the site. A great example of the current horror trend
Speaker 1: is how Josh Weeden's The Cabin in the Woods shows
Speaker 1: us how horror films are very formulate, and all you
Speaker 1: need to do is get a group of kids, random
Speaker 1: monster and kill all but one, and you get yourself
Speaker 1: a horror film people want to see, and he goes
Speaker 1: in from there to discuss I think some more spoilery stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'll leave it at that. But Sean writes under
Speaker 1: the name night Missed at the Horror Attics and he
Speaker 1: recently did a top ten where you just mentioned his
Speaker 1: top ten favorite. Yeah that was interesting all the cap Yeah,
Speaker 1: so just real quick. He has an extensive post on this,
Speaker 1: you can look up at her attics dot net. But
Speaker 1: just to run through his ten favorites. Salem's Lot Saturday nine,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. The Shining nineteen eight, that's a
Speaker 1: great one. Dog Soldiers two thousand two. Did you see this?
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that one. It's pretty fun. It's the
Speaker 1: guy who did the Descent, and it's it's kind of
Speaker 1: like Aliens with werewolves, and it's one of the few
Speaker 1: werewolves move werewolf movies that really works. Um Fido, which
Speaker 1: is zombie flick that I have not seen. Um The
Speaker 1: Host two thousand six, South Korean horror film. That's a
Speaker 1: good one. Takes the the monster movie scenario and turns
Speaker 1: us on its head by having us like almost instantly
Speaker 1: see the monster and then it just rampages the whole film. Uh,
Speaker 1: The Exorcist another classic, let the Right One in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. This is the the original, not the remake.
Speaker 1: And I agree Swedish one so good, it is good.
Speaker 1: One Perfect Creature two thousand seven. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: seen this one Um Slither two thousand six. I know
Speaker 1: it has its bands, it's not not really my thing.
Speaker 1: And The Strangers two thousand nine. So so there are
Speaker 1: just a few films that one of our listeners recommends
Speaker 1: in terms of great Heart and Uh. Finally, we have
Speaker 1: one other bit of listener male related to the The
Speaker 1: Horror episode, and this is from Marta Marta Wright. Since
Speaker 1: this Hi, Julian Robert. I'm writing you because I just
Speaker 1: finished listening to the Horror podcast. I've been listening to
Speaker 1: you guys for about a year now, and I will
Speaker 1: admit that this particular podcast is one of my favorites
Speaker 1: so far. I found myself. I found myself grinning and
Speaker 1: nodding as I listened. I grew up watching horror movies
Speaker 1: and reading horror novels. I still have my original copies
Speaker 1: of Stephen King's books, some a bit tattered but obviously
Speaker 1: well loved and often re read over the years. While
Speaker 1: growing up, my family was highly aware of my quote
Speaker 1: unquote fascination with horror movies, to the point that for
Speaker 1: my eleventh birthday party, my dad rented some horror movies
Speaker 1: whose name I can't recall a twenty years later, I
Speaker 1: think you're talking about the movies that um. As my
Speaker 1: friends and I watched the movie, we huddled together in
Speaker 1: awe and fear. Whenever a scary bit would come on,
Speaker 1: we would scream, and mind I would run down and
Speaker 1: ask if we wanted him to turn the movie off,
Speaker 1: would either holler um a rather empathetic no, or we
Speaker 1: would shoot him since we were completely enthralled with what
Speaker 1: we were watching. All I really remember of the movie
Speaker 1: now is the movie dealt with mummies, some priests from
Speaker 1: ancient Egypt who traveled through time and tore people's heart.
Speaker 1: Its sound whoa. I don't hm that one's not ringing
Speaker 1: a bell, because at first I thought she was going
Speaker 1: to be talking about like the old Boars carlaf deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of sounds like a plot on
Speaker 1: true but but that doesn't match up. I mean, there
Speaker 1: was a great cheesy um mummy related film that was
Speaker 1: on MST years back that had like a like an
Speaker 1: ancient astronauts staying but the money it was really a
Speaker 1: space alien and it's collecting jewels. But there was no
Speaker 1: heart ripping in that. So I don't know. That's a
Speaker 1: good actually a good call out for listeners. If you
Speaker 1: know what she's talking about, let us know and we
Speaker 1: will educate the all of us. Um. She continues, as
Speaker 1: I said, My family was aware that I was and
Speaker 1: still i'm a horror fan. As I hit the age
Speaker 1: where I was old enough to babysit my younger sister,
Speaker 1: my parents would always tell me not to let my
Speaker 1: sister watch horror movies while they were out. Of course,
Speaker 1: the minute they left, she would beg to watch whatever
Speaker 1: Freddie movie happened to be on table or I happen
Speaker 1: to bring home from the video store. Would go back
Speaker 1: and forth for a bit until I finally agreed, and
Speaker 1: of course she'd get scared, would still be awake when
Speaker 1: our parents came home, and I'd get in trouble. Now
Speaker 1: that we're adults, my sister refuses to see scary movies,
Speaker 1: all of Freddy Krueger or Jason, and she has discovered
Speaker 1: that even the really good and scary psychological throwers are
Speaker 1: not her cup of tea, But being the awesome sister
Speaker 1: that she is, she'll go with me once a year
Speaker 1: and see a scary movie and we'll spend the entire
Speaker 1: time peeking over her purse. Any who decide I share,
Speaker 1: please continue doing the awesome job you guys do. Um
Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, so it's just sincerely, Martha. Well that's awesome. Um.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting to be just talking about um exposing
Speaker 1: her sister to this and her sister ending up being
Speaker 1: the polar opposite, uh, you know, not not having a
Speaker 1: tolerance or a desire to seek out horror films as
Speaker 1: an adult. Yeah, as yeah, as a child, she wanted them.
Speaker 1: And I was just thinking that corroborates two different studies
Speaker 1: that we've talked about before, the fact that kids cannot
Speaker 1: get enough candy, right, um, and you know, having to
Speaker 1: do with like um, energy stores as a child and
Speaker 1: the quick fix they get from candy, and then they
Speaker 1: they can't get enough scary movies. Yeah, you know, which
Speaker 1: also corroborates some other studies. So yeah, yeah, and uh,
Speaker 1: I can't help but think of of my own family too,
Speaker 1: because I would get my sisters to watch these scary movies,
Speaker 1: and I my middle sister, Lucy, she was she wasn't
Speaker 1: really affected by him. She just kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: I wasn't particularly interested. But I feel like my youngest sister, Alison,
Speaker 1: she would get rather frightened by these films. But as
Speaker 1: an adult she she still seems to have some level
Speaker 1: of of nostalgia and appreciation for horror films, like she'll
Speaker 1: she'll dress up, she could really get some Halloween and all. So,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it's interesting though that in um
Speaker 1: In MARTA's case, the younger sister ended up just going
Speaker 1: almost completely do the other side of the fence on
Speaker 1: the horror movie issue. Yeah yeah, And yet maybe it's
Speaker 1: her once a year thing with her sister and she's like,
Speaker 1: I got too explored again at that moment, she savors
Speaker 1: it and who knows, maybe she'll bring her back at
Speaker 1: around yeah O taste j inch. Well, Hey, if you
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