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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, how's everybody doing on a Tuesday? Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you as we motor through this week

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Speaker 2: on the heels of the NFL Draft, and we are

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Speaker 2: still talking Bill's draft class, and we'll, uh, that's right.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Hey, we'll let.

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Speaker 2: You know what's going on. A bevy of activity here

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Speaker 2: at One Bill's Drive. The off season conditioning program for

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Speaker 2: the Vets on the roster is in full swing. The

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Speaker 2: rookies will not get here until next Thursday for Rookie

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Speaker 2: Mini Camp, so they're still a ways off. I would

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Speaker 2: imagine that they've been, you know, sent some playbooks and

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Speaker 2: stuff to be ready for classroom work and things of

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Speaker 2: that nature. Because it is an immersive, yeah, three day

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Speaker 2: experience Rookie Mini Camp. Because I think you've said it before,

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Speaker 2: it's like drinking out of a fire hose or yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: drinking out of a fire It's just coming at you

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Speaker 2: and you can't swallow it fast enough.

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Speaker 1: You can you can imagine the environment.

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Speaker 4: They got a bunch, you got a bunch of guys

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Speaker 4: who are well known like Josh Allen and Dion Dawkins,

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Speaker 4: and you know, those jokers in already in the building,

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Speaker 4: and you're coming as a brand new guy with a

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Speaker 4: bunch of other brand new guys trying to find out

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Speaker 4: where's the locker room, where's a meeting room?

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Speaker 1: Where where's it? What's this place? What's this?

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Speaker 3: Where am I gonna fit?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? What do I do? Who do I talk to?

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Speaker 1: Who's okay? Who is it okay to say hello to?

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Speaker 1: You know? You know that, Can I say hi to

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Speaker 1: Josh or no? I wishould? I'd just like to leave

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Speaker 1: that alone.

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Speaker 2: It's a that was TJ Sanders at his press conference.

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Speaker 2: He comes in, so he gets drafted Friday night. He

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Speaker 2: comes in on Saturday for a meet the media press conference,

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Speaker 2: and somebody asked him, you know, do you have any

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Speaker 2: prior relationships with people that you might know already on

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Speaker 2: the Bills roster And he said, well, I knew Dion

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Speaker 2: Walker because we were in the same We went through

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Speaker 2: the pre draft process together, you know, Senior Bowl. They

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Speaker 2: were in the same combine position group going around the

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Speaker 2: whole three days there, so we got to know him

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Speaker 2: a little bit. But he said, I don't know anybody

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Speaker 2: on the roster.

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Speaker 3: He goes, be nice to meet the MVP though, keep

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Speaker 3: going with him, and I was like, yeah, there, it is, there,

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Speaker 3: it is.

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Speaker 1: It's true.

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Speaker 3: It's like a Hollywood star on this roster.

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Speaker 1: I it's something. Man.

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Speaker 4: I walked into my first locker room and you know,

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Speaker 4: you don't know it then because if these guys are

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Speaker 4: brand new tune, there were three Hall of Famers, like

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Speaker 4: within six feet of my.

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Speaker 3: Locker, you know, so two linemen right, Munchack.

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Speaker 4: Munchack and Matthews and Warren Moon and Warren Moon was

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Speaker 4: sitting like right behind work.

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Speaker 1: It is unbelievable. So yeah, pretty, it's pretty heavy stuff

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Speaker 1: for you guys.

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Speaker 2: Coming up to Jay, Sanders relayed a cool story though.

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Speaker 2: He was saying that, you know, in his pre draft

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Speaker 2: travels kind of running into Dion Walker more than once. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he said, you know, they were kind of talking about

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Speaker 2: their you know, their future, which was going to be

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Speaker 2: in the NFL, and they were talking to each other.

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Speaker 3: They both played in the SEC.

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Speaker 2: And they were saying, Man, wouldn't it be cool if

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Speaker 2: we ended up on the same team. And now here

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Speaker 2: they are two months later on the same team.

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Speaker 4: They're lining up and line up they'll be lining up

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Speaker 4: at least in pre season games. If not regular season games.

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Speaker 3: And I just think that's kind of cool it out

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Speaker 4: Think though too, that you're going through this process that

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Speaker 4: you know, nobody's ever gone through before. You only go

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Speaker 4: through it once in life, right, So they're going through

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Speaker 4: it together. You kind of keep bumping into the same

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Speaker 4: spend a whole week there practicing and all that, spend meetings.

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Speaker 4: Then you end up with the and you know, combine together,

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Speaker 4: same position group. It's kind of cool and you know

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Speaker 1: It's kind of fun, you know, kind of fun.

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Speaker 2: And if I remember right, both of those guys interviewed

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Speaker 2: about probably talked about that too. Yeah, right, that's probably

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Speaker 2: where the conversation got sparked, right because it's like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I interview with this team, this team and the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I interviewed with the Bills too. Man, wouldn't

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Speaker 3: it be great? Like, you know, that's where it goes.

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Speaker 1: Did they ask you about that?

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Speaker 3: That's where the conversation about that how did you answer

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Speaker 1: You know, all that.

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Speaker 2: Quickly quickly migrates to thinking about playing on the same

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Speaker 2: team together. And now they will get the chance to

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Speaker 2: do that for the better part of the next four years,

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Speaker 2: which is super cool, especially since they play the same position,

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Speaker 2: or they'll could conceivably be lined up next to one another.

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Speaker 2: To your point, certainly in the preseason, that's going to happen,

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Speaker 2: so kind of cool. Got to get around the NFL

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Speaker 2: here as there is some news going on contracts, player signings,

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Speaker 2: and the like, and we begin with the San Francisco

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers. We know they're still working on a

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Speaker 2: brock Purty deal, but they got another big one done

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Speaker 2: late yesterday, as tight end George Kittle now has terms

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Speaker 2: on a new contract. They were finalized late yesterday four years,

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Speaker 2: seventy six point four million dollars for the All Pro

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Speaker 2: tight end, including forty million in guaranteed money. Kintle is

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Speaker 2: one of five tight ends in league history to have

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Speaker 2: four or more one thousand yard receiving seasons, alongside Travis

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Speaker 2: Kelcey Gronk, Tony Gonzalez Hall of Fame, and Jason Witten.

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Speaker 2: He also surpassed Gronk for the second most receiving yards

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Speaker 1: He's got some grit. Came out.

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Speaker 4: He was like it was mid round pick, third round, right,

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Speaker 4: and he was like there was like six tight ends

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a pretty good player and he just loves playing.

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Speaker 1: He's just we're in that time of year. That's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, free spirit loves the game. He takes a hard

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Speaker 2: one of those dudes he can't get enough of it,

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Speaker 2: one year contract with free agent wide receiver Deontae Johnson

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Speaker 2: that according to ESPN, the agreement comes after Johnson made

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Speaker 2: an official visit with the Browns on Monday. Now, the

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Speaker 2: around with three teams Panthers, Ravens, and Texans, and as

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Speaker 2: we know, he got jettisoned from the Steelers, who can't

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Speaker 2: seem to have a receiver on their roster that isn't

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Speaker 2: a head case of some kind. I mean, the list

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Speaker 2: now George Pickens, who hasn't been easy to deal with either.

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Speaker 2: It seems I don't know what the what's going on

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Speaker 2: the water. I don't know if they identify some kind

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Speaker 3: But it's I mean, it's.

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Speaker 2: Happened a half a dozen times now. Yeah, maybe they

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, everybody wants to play and everybody wants to contribute,

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Speaker 4: but you got it, it's hard for me to get

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Speaker 1: How this was gonna go?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how do you think it's gonna go at a

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Speaker 4: pro level? When you show up and everybody's already you know,

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Speaker 4: everybody's the same guy as you. They've got got credentials,

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Speaker 4: they've they've been padded on the back their whole life too.

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Speaker 4: Some guys handle it wells other guys can't get along

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Speaker 2: I guess he thought he was gonna be like the

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Speaker 2: number one guy in Carolina that didn't pan out. He

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Speaker 2: goes to Baltimore, that doesn't work. He refuses to go

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Speaker 2: in a game that they were losing. If you remember, he's, hey,

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Speaker 3: I hope he doesn't expect to get the ball a

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Speaker 2: I mean, with the mess they have a quarterback. Best

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Speaker 4: It it seems just some guys just don't have a

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Speaker 1: They have a different perception of how their.

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Speaker 4: Their career, their abilities, how the league works, what the

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Speaker 4: look like. They can't see it accurately. Or and there's

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Speaker 4: this too. This doesn't happen as much as it used

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Speaker 4: to happen. It doesn't happen very much at all now.

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Speaker 4: It used to happen occasionally back when I played him.

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Speaker 4: Before I played they just get lied to, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they play kadum and they say.

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Speaker 4: Here's what worth, or they share this vision like they're

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Speaker 4: gonna actually make this happen, like you're gonna come in,

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Speaker 4: And then they come in and it's like it always

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Speaker 4: has been. They didn't change anything for you. And then

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Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, that happens too.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's that's a stretch these days, I think, because there's

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Speaker 4: just so much interconnectivity in the Players Union, with all

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Speaker 4: these guys in locker rooms who've played together and had

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Speaker 4: conversations see each other in the off season, that you

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Speaker 4: can't get away with that as an organization anymore.

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Speaker 2: No, no, this story has just crossed before we came

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Speaker 2: on the air. ESPN reporting that the Packers and JayR

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Speaker 2: Alexander continue to talk about a possible resolution, which could

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Speaker 2: include a reconciliation to where Alexander plays for the Packers

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. After all, all options are supposed

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Speaker 2: to be on the table these the two sides had

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Speaker 2: sides Alexander has no takers in a trade. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: see if there'd be interested in him. Maybe that's luke warm,

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Speaker 3: I know they got a couple of receivers.

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Speaker 2: We know that because they got Matthew Golden right at

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I'm going to pretend to know

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Speaker 1: Their draft class is up. I've got it right here.

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Speaker 4: Their entire draft class is started with Matthew Golden. Then

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Speaker 4: it was an offensive tackle. Then it was another wide receiver,

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Speaker 3: All right, so they got a corner late.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, late two thirty seventh overall, Micah Robinson from two lane.

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Speaker 1: Then the defensive ends they.

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Speaker 1: They got a Texas an Oklahoma State guy.

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Speaker 2: Yet they ain't got a corner until day three, and

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Speaker 2: you're probably not expecting him to be starting caliber right

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Speaker 1: Plus, I mean, what's his status.

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Speaker 2: I think he's still under contract with them, but the

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Speaker 1: So okay, that's.

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Speaker 3: Where it is.

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Speaker 2: After bypassing a wide receiver in the draft, the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Steelers added one in veteran free agency. Robert Woods has

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Speaker 3: Still have to sort out their quarterback situation.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, Robert Woods might be the best blocking

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Speaker 3: He was unbelievable here as a blocker. There have been others.

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Speaker 4: His nickname is Bobby Trees. He was a gritty player

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Speaker 4: for a guy who's drifts like Fingercourse. Just a guy

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Speaker 1: It was easy to like, right, it's just a dude.

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Speaker 1: It's just easy to like. He played hard, had some grit,

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Speaker 3: I thought he's still playing. I mean, that's a pick

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Speaker 1: That is bless his heart, man, that is that's hard

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Speaker 3: Kind. I want to see what his best season in

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Speaker 2: So he went sixty five catches for seven hundred yards

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so there it is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 2: He was a good number two option I thought, just

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Speaker 2: never really maximized it here because the quarterbacking was substandard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he and he's one of those guys too.

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Speaker 4: the whole thing. I mean, he's got the total package.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna help those guys. He'll be he'll be a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just by his professional and tell.

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Speaker 3: Him to stop being a whiner, right right, And see

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if he's gonna the guy

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Speaker 3: But well, yeah, true.

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Speaker 2: As we heard right before the draft, the Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 2: It's part of the reason why the Bills rung up

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Speaker 2: they have Darius Williams, nice player, a little bit older,

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Speaker 3: He's thirty one.

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Speaker 2: So what would the cost be and how would they

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Speaker 3: So that's about all the news you need to know

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Speaker 1: Kind of sparse news today. Well, I mean I said,

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Speaker 3: We are, and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So now the exercise becomes, let's apply the

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Speaker 2: So that's our topic of discussion for you today. How

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: I know there are some people that we've had call

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Speaker 2: a draft class just went six for nine on defense.

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Speaker 2: How has that altered your confidence in the Bills defense

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Speaker 2: for this coming fall. Eight h three zero five point

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Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty Those

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Speaker 2: we do have open lines for you right now. I

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Speaker 2: think the the interesting thing, at least the most interesting

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Speaker 2: thing for me was I think we were in agreement

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Speaker 2: told that there were twice as many defensive tackle prospects

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Speaker 2: expected to come off the board in the first four rounds.

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Speaker 2: Then maybe in any draft, most draft classes have twelve

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Speaker 3: And here's the other thing.

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Speaker 2: Going into the draft, the Bills had seven defensive alignment

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Speaker 3: Seven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how many you go into camp with fifteen to sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you knew they were gonna do something there.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing, and Brandon Bean has told us this,

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Speaker 1: Well it they kind of did in this draft pretty close.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but he said, but with the draft built like

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Speaker 1: And no, no, no, we're going to be.

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Speaker 4: Able to get a couple anyway, And they ended up

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Speaker 4: taking three, which was, you know, kind of foreseeable.

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Speaker 2: He ended up saying as much after Night two of

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Speaker 2: basically said, we thought, based on how we envisioned the

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Speaker 2: and obviously that proved to be the case. They actually

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Speaker 4: And if you take d line as one position, it

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think here are the big takeaways for me in

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Speaker 2: Pass rush was a problem. Babbage had to blitz a

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Speaker 3: So that was a major deficiency for this defense.

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Speaker 2: And now knowing each of the three defensive linemen that

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Speaker 3: Even Dion Walker. I mean, yes, not overly.

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Speaker 3: Man is getting some work done. And TJ.

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Speaker 2: They're playing top level competition in the SEC and they

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Speaker 3: It didn't happen all the time, but.

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Speaker 2: There would be a game here or a game there

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Speaker 4: I thought, not really that I'd have to go back

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Speaker 4: Bill's offense forced teams to keep up with them, and

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Speaker 4: they had to run a full offense. They couldn't just

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Speaker 4: pound it out and shorten the game and keep Josh

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Speaker 4: on the side, and it just didn't work because Josh

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Speaker 4: was scoring touchdowns. They if they messed up in one drive,

447
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Speaker 4: they were behind the eight ball, so they were forever

448
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Speaker 4: they got let off. The Bill's defense got let off

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Speaker 4: the hook a couple of times, I thought because the

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Speaker 4: OFFENSI time they had to put their foot on the

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Speaker 4: gas and go to keep up with Josh in the offense.

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Speaker 2: Because at the end of the season, the Bills were

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Speaker 2: twelve against the run, which is a good ranking, but

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Speaker 2: I think it was masked to your point by the

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Speaker 2: fact that opponents had to throw the ball far more

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Speaker 2: than they wanted to to keep up with the Bills

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Speaker 2: on the scoreboard. And even then that was a problem

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Speaker 2: because the Bills were twenty fourth against the pass last

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Speaker 2: year and they gave up the fifth highest completion percentage

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Speaker 2: sixty eight point four percent. Completion percentage against. That's an

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Speaker 2: indication of we're not getting pressure on the quarterback and

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Speaker 2: we don't have guys that can cover man to man

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Speaker 2: because we're blitzing to try to generate pressure and the

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Speaker 2: guys on the back end can't hold up long enough.

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Speaker 2: That was it was a linked problem, and that's why

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Speaker 2: they addressed the front and the back end of their

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Speaker 2: defense as much as they did.

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Speaker 3: And I'm encouraged.

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Speaker 2: I think you've got a corner in Max Harrison, who

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Speaker 2: should at the very least challenge for the starting role

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Speaker 2: opposite Christian Benford. And then you've got three defensive linemen

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Speaker 2: who are unquestionably in my mind, going to be part

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Speaker 2: of the defensive rotation.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if you can make this analogy, but

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Speaker 4: they were number four in the league in yards giving.

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Speaker 1: Up per game rushing.

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Speaker 4: They're one sixty eight, but they were tenth at yards

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Speaker 4: per rush. So teams just couldn't run the book. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you think you're getting up, you're giving four and a

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Speaker 4: half yards a rush, and teams sh decide not to

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Speaker 4: run it on you.

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Speaker 1: Oh hold on, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Every seast twelfth against the run, that's right, and one

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Speaker 4: thirty one again in per game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta click that room. You're right, So.

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Speaker 4: The point is it kind of holds true. They're running

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Speaker 4: their defensive uh stats rankings and how they stacked up

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Speaker 4: were skewed.

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Speaker 1: By the quality of their offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's I think that's the point I'm

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Speaker 4: I've been trying to make for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 4: Now we'll see if it holds up and if this

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Speaker 4: defensive line and these improvements can give them a little

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Speaker 4: bit more of an edge and even put the the

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Speaker 4: other team's offense on even more under more pressure. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm well, I love their draft. I love the way

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Speaker 4: they did the draft, the positions, everything, I'm right in

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Speaker 4: line with it. We we've been talking about and talking

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Speaker 4: about it. The question is or how good are they

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Speaker 4: going to play? I'm kind of after talking to guys today,

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of excited about Dion Walker. You know, I

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Speaker 4: want to see how he plays healthy. I want to

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Speaker 4: see him get the most out of these guys.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a fun preseason.

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Speaker 2: How has the draft class altered your confidence in the

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Speaker 2: Bills defense? Eight three to zero five point fifty one

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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty then.

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Speaker 3: Number to get on board.

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Speaker 2: Got some open lines for you there, or if you

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Speaker 2: don't have time to give us a call, you can

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Speaker 2: hit us up on the tweet sheet at One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: so be sure to do that if you'd like. Coming

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Speaker 2: up second hour of the show, we will check in

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Speaker 2: with our good friend Greg Crowsel, senior producer from NFL Films,

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Speaker 2: as he walks through the balance of the draft class

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Speaker 2: to let us know what he sees on film from

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Speaker 2: each almost every single one of the prospects. So we'll

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Speaker 2: go player by player with him to see what his

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Speaker 2: thoughts are. I know he was a big fan of

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Speaker 2: Landon Jackson from when we talked to him at the Combines, right,

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Speaker 2: so he's pretty got to be pretty happy with that

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Speaker 2: pick for the Bills, we know at the very least.

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Speaker 2: But we'll catch up with Greg in the second hour.

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, we go to the phones at eight

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Speaker 2: h three zero five fifty one eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifteen. We lead off with Kevin and Hamburg.

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Speaker 1: What do you have for us?

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Speaker 3: Kevin, you're all one of Bills love.

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Speaker 6: They for hitnging my call you bet, I'm much more

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Speaker 6: common that. When we played good running backs this year,

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Speaker 6: and I looked at the schedule, we ought we played

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Speaker 6: Derrick Henry again, we played Bejon on the Falcons, and

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Speaker 6: we play Ta Kwan of the egos that they won't

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Speaker 6: just get a whole or two and be off like

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Speaker 6: running like a secretariat or something through a defend you

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Speaker 6: and all that, and the defensive back with that new

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Speaker 6: fast guy, then he won't just smoke us the way

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Speaker 6: we got smoked by Elam or if someone got hurt

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Speaker 6: like Bedford did in the Chief game, get smoked again.

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Speaker 7: And again and again.

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Speaker 6: So I think we got much more short up. Then

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Speaker 6: we won't just get smoked against either good running back

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Speaker 6: a good receiver automatically.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's a fair assessment.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the that's always the plan has the hope.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if it works out. Yeah, he still got

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Speaker 1: to do it.

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Speaker 2: I mean they got They got moved off the ball

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Speaker 2: big time against the Ravens. Now in fairness, no to

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Speaker 2: rel Bernard, no Taron Johnson, no Matt Mulano in that game,

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Speaker 2: but up front they got moved off the ball. The

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage was getting reset two yards downfield with

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Speaker 2: alarming regularity. So they needed to get bigger and stronger upfront,

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Speaker 2: and they did that with Walker and Sanders unquestionably.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And that first the first meeting between these two teams

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Speaker 4: in the in the regular season, if you remember, it

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Speaker 4: was thirty thirty seven to ten, thirty five to ten,

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Speaker 4: and it was.

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Speaker 3: And it started to look like that again in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter of the playoff game.

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Speaker 4: The Bills had a chance in the early season game

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Speaker 4: to get back in it in the early in the

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Speaker 4: second half they were it was like seventeen to ten

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Speaker 4: or something and the Bills were twenty one to ten,

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Speaker 4: and the Bills were going to score and they turned

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Speaker 4: it over. I think they had a turnover and it

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Speaker 4: got away from him then, but it was But you

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Speaker 4: remember that was the Derrick Henry first played from scrimmage gone.

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Speaker 3: Eighty seven yards.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: But everybody's getting moved, I mean, everybody's getting backed up.

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Speaker 2: So that will change this year, I believe, with some

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Speaker 2: of the beef you now have in the middle of

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Speaker 2: your defense, with some of the draft choices that were made.

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Speaker 3: But you let us know how you feel. At eight

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Speaker 3: O three h five fifty to Dave in Buffalo next,

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Speaker 3: what's up, Dave.

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Speaker 9: Hid there, Thanks for taking my call. Sure after the draft,

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Speaker 9: I'm just even more impressed with Brandon Bean. It always,

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Speaker 9: to me was a good mark of a good GM

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Speaker 9: when you had a plan B, a next man up

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Speaker 9: who had come in if one of your starters went down,

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Speaker 9: and being exactually working on planned c's for some of

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Speaker 9: the positions because he's just gotten so much debt. And

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Speaker 9: I think some of your talk today that there's gonna

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Speaker 9: be some guys who really are going to get cut

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Speaker 9: from this roster early on in the preseason who could

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Speaker 9: particularly have been starters if they lost all the way through.

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Speaker 9: But the big problem that I see right now or

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Speaker 9: two areas. One is linebacker that you know, I want

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Speaker 9: some more plan bes there, and then just that obvious problem,

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Speaker 9: but there is no Plan B for the MVP, So

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Speaker 9: what do you do with that case? But overall, I've

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Speaker 9: just got to be happy and as long as we

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Speaker 9: don't get the snake bit like we did when Jamar

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Speaker 9: Hamlin had a heart attack on the field where the

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Speaker 9: thirteen seconds you know, came down and people were dis

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Speaker 9: exhausted or the you know, positioned the ball and one

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Speaker 9: ref position to one place, another ref position to another place,

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Speaker 9: and they took the bad one. You know, we've got

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Speaker 9: to feel pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, you're right linebacker depth. You can make a

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Speaker 1: case for that. I would, I'd listen to it.

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Speaker 4: You got three guys I think you can really depend

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Speaker 4: on Bernard Milano and Williams behind.

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Speaker 3: Them, got some young guys.

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Speaker 4: You got some young guys, some guys that are on

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Speaker 4: and you're right, there is there is absolutely no plan B.

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Speaker 4: If Josh Allen goes down, and it's the same with

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Speaker 4: Kansas City, it's the same with Baltimore, it's the same

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Speaker 4: with Cincinnati. You can't replace those guys, period.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a step down no matter who you come

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Speaker 3: up with.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you may be able to win some games and

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Speaker 4: find a way to put something together to get some game,

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Speaker 4: but you're not the same team at all. Ever, even

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Speaker 4: if you feel like you've got the best backup in

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Speaker 4: the league, it's not gonna be the same.

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Speaker 1: We all know that.

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Speaker 4: So, yeah, there's only so I don't know what the

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Speaker 4: philosophy is. That's a that's a really good question. If

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Speaker 4: do you put any assets at all into replacing Josh

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Speaker 4: knowing it's hopeless, or do you use those assets financial

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about and put them into the rest of

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Speaker 4: your roster to help him when he is in there.

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Speaker 4: I think that's more the smart way to go. If

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Speaker 4: he goes down, you it's done. So yeah, I think

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Speaker 4: that's the way to do it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, get a guy that you know you

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Speaker 1: can do something with maybe if he if he does

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Speaker 1: have to go in, but yeah, yeah, there's no plan

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Speaker 1: B for Josh.

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Speaker 2: How has the draft class altered your confidence in the

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Speaker 2: Bills defense? Ato three oh five fifty one eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifty more of your phone calls

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Speaker 2: when we return. We'll lead off with Tom on the

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Speaker 2: West side. Next here on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 2: Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live and' gonna get right back to

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Speaker 2: the phones as we are wide open until the top

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Speaker 2: of the hour. Here at ATO three oh five fifty

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Speaker 2: asking you how has the draft class altered your confidence

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Speaker 2: in the Bills defense? After six of the nine picks

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Speaker 2: went to that side of the ball. We lead off

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Speaker 2: with Tom on the west side.

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Speaker 3: What's up? Tom?

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Speaker 10: Good?

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Speaker 11: Afternoon? Guys, it really hasn't changed my opinion at all

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Speaker 11: because they're still going to prove it to me Mode.

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Speaker 11: They beefed up the front line on the defense, and

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Speaker 11: I admire that, but as Dave said earlier, they didn't

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Speaker 11: really beef up the linebacker position and even the corners.

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Speaker 11: We talked about it yesterday sliding one back to safety,

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Speaker 11: but the safeties they drafted, they all seemed a little

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Speaker 11: underweight to be playing back there. So I'm worried about

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Speaker 11: stopping the run because we got to stop We got

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Speaker 11: to stop Derrick Henry. So yeah, I'm still I'm going

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Speaker 11: to prove it to me Mode.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. I haven't seen him on the field yet,

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Speaker 3: so I get you.

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Speaker 4: And you got to find out too, what they're going

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Speaker 4: to be good at they are they going to be

664
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Speaker 4: like this might be a defense that well, you know

665
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 4: what it's like that they can stop the run good,

666
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 4: but they're struggling to get to the passer or or

667
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 4: a vice versa. Are they gonna have different They're gonna

668
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 4: have different combinations of d linemen on There.

669
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Speaker 1: Is Dean Walker gonna be on the field with Ed

670
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: Oliver or is he gonna be on there with Daikwon

671
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: Jones or is he gonna be on there with you know,

672
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Dwayne Carter. I don't know.

673
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: Uh, they're gonna have to find out about it. And

674
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 4: you're right, they've got they've proven nothing. But I do

675
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: like the steps they've they've taken. I don't worry so

676
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: much about the heft of the linebacking corps. I worry

677
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: more about their speed, and they're what they've got between

678
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 4: their ears. I you know, I mean Dick, but because

679
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 4: was a big dude. But it was a different game

680
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: back then, you know, So I'm yes, I get your

681
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 4: your point. That doesn't bother me as much as it

682
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 4: bothers some other people.

683
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Speaker 1: But I get it. I get it.

684
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 4: Yeah you're lying, it's actually big and burly. But I

685
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 4: don't know if that's the that's that's if that's gonna

686
00:33:59,160 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 4: happen in today's game.

687
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 2: I also think up front on the edges, the bills

688
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: prioritize length. Land and Jackson being the example there, who

689
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: is very much a body type similar to Greg Rousseau,

690
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: and by having that length, you can effectively set the edge,

691
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: not allow things to get outside on you. Even if somebody,

692
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: you know, a back does try to bounce it outside.

693
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: How many times have you seen Greg Russeau make tackles

694
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: in the backfield on running backs that try to bounce outside.

695
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: Just because of his length, he can reach, dive and

696
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: get somebody around the ankles. Jackson has college tape demonstrating

697
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 2: that as well. So now you've got them bottled up

698
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: on both sides, so you don't let things leak out

699
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 2: to the edges of your defense. I think with having

700
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: that length, it's going to be beneficial because I kind

701
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: of see land and Jackson if he can challenge for

702
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: an early down roll, you know, in the rotation, I

703
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: could see him on first down and second down, you know,

704
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: second and five, you know, first and ten, and then

705
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: when it's an obvious passing down, Joey Bosa rolls in

706
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: for him and he's gonna go rush for the passer.

707
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: That's kind of how I see Land and Jackson's career

708
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: beginning here in Buffalo. So I don't even know if

709
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna get a ton of pass rush opportunities, but

710
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: I think they do believe in his edgesetting ability in the.

711
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: Run front for sure. Let's get back to the phones

712
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 3: and we go to Gary on a selle.

713
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Speaker 8: What do you got for us, Gary, than guys, tell

714
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 8: y'all do him good.

715
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 12: I look at the whole free agency and draft together.

716
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 12: Salves tried to out their plane, which I kind of

717
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 12: fidered going through last season, this would be there playing.

718
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 12: To be honest, I was thrilled. I mean, defense, defense, defense.

719
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 12: I've called y'all multiple times, the defense, defense, defense. It's

720
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 12: like Brandon Bean exactly what I was thinking.

721
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: Thank God, Yeah, appreciate it. Gary. Yeah, I do remember

722
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: Gary Collins say we got to prioritize defense. The Bills

723
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: did that.

724
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: He's very happy with it. Yeah, and now we'll have

725
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: to wait and see. I think Gary was in a

726
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: socket wrench going.

727
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: Gary was is the quintessential listener.

728
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 10: He was.

729
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: He was right in the wheelhouse of the show for

730
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 4: a month and a half with all the other we

731
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: gotta get a corner, we gotta get a defensive line,

732
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: we got to get a defensive tackle, we gotta get

733
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 4: a defensive end, we gotta get all you know, that's

734
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 4: all we heard. And then the occasional wide out. You know,

735
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 4: everybody wanted this guy, so I'm he was right in

736
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 4: the wheelhouse of the show, and they did exactly what

737
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 4: we talked about him.

738
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Speaker 1: It never goes like that.

739
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Speaker 4: They always like throw in like they'll go like this

740
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 4: year they would have gone in normal years, it's instead

741
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 4: of corner, uh de tackled, defensive end, de tackle corner,

742
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: it would have been corner, wide out, defensive end, corner safety.

743
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. They never go exactly like

744
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: we think they are. But man, oh man, this one was.

745
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: That's why I Brandon yesterday. Can you remember a draft

746
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: class that lined up so favorably with what your positional

747
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: needs were? And he could not think of one. You know,

748
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: defensive tackle, super strong class this year. Not a lot

749
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 2: of superstars, but a lot of solid players that can

750
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: help your roster.

751
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: And the same went for corner.

752
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: Not a super duper class, but a class where you

753
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: could get starters as.

754
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: Late as round three or four. So that was all

755
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 3: in the wheelhouse of what the Bills needed.

756
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 4: That last caller, Gary was I'll say it, it's the

757
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 4: the analogy fits so well. It really we were all

758
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: we all had a tickle, and that's this draft scratched it.

759
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Speaker 1: I mean, it was is exactly. Yeah, it was really good.

760
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 3: I know, I'm breathing a lot easier about what they're

761
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 3: going to line.

762
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: Up up front, and I know to we don't know

763
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 4: how this draft's gonna be for another two and a

764
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 4: half three years.

765
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: Well, right, we'll see to Dan in North Town of

766
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: London next. What's up Dan?

767
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 6: Hey?

768
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Speaker 11: Good efter, gentlemen.

769
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Speaker 7: One of the questions that I have, I guess I'll

770
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 7: leave with a question and follow the quick comment and

771
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 7: then I'll hang up and listen. Is as part of

772
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 7: this defensive shake up or defensive rebuilding, have they done

773
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 7: anything to your knowledge with regard to the defensive line coaching.

774
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

775
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 7: And the reason why I'm asking is because my evidence

776
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 7: has not moved a bit based off of who they've added,

777
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 7: Because to me, like Jordan Phillips and Declon Jones are

778
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 7: not small human beings.

779
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 11: And I in that Kansas City.

780
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 7: Game, they're going against a rookie guard who had just

781
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 7: started and then a guard who has shifted to tackle

782
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 7: who had never played the position before, and we were

783
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 7: out coached. They had no answers, so it didn't matter

784
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 7: who you had there. If the philosophy or again I'm

785
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 7: not sure if it was blocking scheme or if it

786
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 7: was based off of whatever, it just seems that every

787
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 7: time we go up to them, we have no answers,

788
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 7: and the defensive line is always seems to be m

789
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 7: I A regardless of who's in there. And it's confusing

790
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 7: because we've seen it Olliver be disruptive, We've seen Greg

791
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 7: Russou make a tremendous impact, and it was as quiet

792
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 7: as a church mouse when it came to that games.

793
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 7: And that's kind of where I'm I'm really interested to see.

794
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 7: And I'm not saying somebody, I'm not calling for anybody's job,

795
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 7: but I'm saying, even if it's a case of supplementing somebody,

796
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 7: bringing in additional blocking coaches or strategy experts, things like that,

797
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 7: if there's anything you.

798
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Speaker 4: Know of ye first of all, yeah, I would agree

799
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 4: with you. Those guys aren't small, but they're they're big,

800
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 4: huge dudes, just like the guys they brought in. But

801
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: they're also thirty something something something.

802
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: And don't forget either.

803
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,360
Speaker 2: An indication as to how shorthanded they felt on the

804
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: defensive front was revealed when they signed Jordan Phillips off

805
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys practice squad late in the season and

806
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: did the exact same thing with Quinton Jefferson who they

807
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: signed off the Cleveland Browns practice squad. They bring in

808
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: two defensive tackles at the end of the season because

809
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: what they already had wasn't good enough. And now those

810
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: two guys ones coming off practice squad injured reserve. The

811
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: other guys barely played either, and they're playing major rotational roles.

812
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 2: That should have been an indication right there as to

813
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: what the issues were.

814
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 4: And I get where you see you're talking about the

815
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 4: Kansas City game and how you know your finger out,

816
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 4: coach and all that. Listen, the Kansas City game looked

817
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 4: just like the rest of the regular season to me.

818
00:39:59,040 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: I mean, it was nothing.

819
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 4: It wasn't like all of a sudden things changed dramatically

820
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 4: up front for the Bills defense.

821
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: That's how they played the whole season.

822
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 4: I don't I don't think Andy Reid or the Chiefs

823
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 4: have any magic wand they got they got really good

824
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 4: players at some key spots, ones at quarterback and ones

825
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 4: at tight end. They got a couple of defensive players

826
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 4: that are outstanding as well, and they got a great coordinator,

827
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 4: no question about it. But and their defensive tackle and

828
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 4: Chris Jones pretty good. Now, But what you saw in

829
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 4: that Chiefs game was exactly what we saw the whole season.

830
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: It wasn't anything special. It wasn't like the Chiefs found

831
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: something on the Buffalo Bills. Everybody know it just had

832
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: to overcome it. That's why, to Brownie's point, they had

833
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: they had to get some help, and hopefully they did

834
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 4: in this draft.

835
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Speaker 2: And to answer your question about the coaching staff, yeah,

836
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: they have Marcus West who's a defensive line coach who

837
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 2: was promoted from within last season to run the D line.

838
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: But now there are two assistants.

839
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Speaker 2: You have senior defensive assistant Ryan Nielsen, who's the former

840
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator from Jacksonville, and you have an assistant defensive

841
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: line coach in Jason Redbrovich who comes from Green Bay.

842
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: So you have three coaches coaching this defensive line. So

843
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: with some young players expected to be in some playing

844
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: time roles, you've got guys that you can say, hey,

845
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: go work with the rookies over here for a half

846
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: an hour and make sure they get this technique down.

847
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: You have the manpower on your coaching staff to do that. Now,

848
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: let's quickly go to Mary in North Carolina. Here, what

849
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 2: do you go for as Mary Hi, guys, how are

850
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: you good?

851
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Good?

852
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 10: Ma?

853
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 13: Mad Max? I was so impressed with this energy. We

854
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 13: need to bottle it. And any replays on his playing

855
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 13: has to be done in slow motion because he looks

856
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 13: like he's the flash that just happened to be playing football.

857
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 13: I can't wait to see him get some pick six.

858
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 13: But just like the caller yesterday, I can't wait for

859
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 13: this season to start because I think we've made some

860
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 13: really good choices that will help us be relevant in

861
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 13: the super Bowl, hopefully for the rest of the decade

862
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 13: and beyond.

863
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

864
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Mary, glad you're excited about the season. And yeah,

865
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: Harrison's a blur. I don't think there's any question about that.

866
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: And then we'll see can he win that starting job

867
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 2: opposite Benford? You know that's that's his challenge going into

868
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: next season as a first round pick. You're expected to

869
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: compete for his starting job and probably win it. Let's

870
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: see if he can pull it off and start from

871
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: week one.

872
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: You're right, though, there's some stuff in his highlight team

873
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: we've been watching. We're watching him right now. He's he

874
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: can catch up.

875
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 4: You've got the ball has to be and guys that

876
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: are fast, the ball not only has to be accurate,

877
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 4: has to be on time. If it's late or a

878
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: little bit inaccurate, they're going to break it up or

879
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: pick it off because they can get back into the

880
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 4: play if they take a false step. It's one of

881
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 4: the things that they do. And also one of the

882
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 4: things about Max Harrison and I like, and you watch

883
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 4: some the other corners in this draft, he seems really

884
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 4: quiet with his hands. In college, they kind of let

885
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Speaker 4: him play a little bit, a little more physical in

886
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Speaker 4: the back end. In the pros, there's some certain things

887
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Speaker 4: you can do and certain things you cannot do. It's

888
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: a little more finely tuned, and Harriston seems well equipped

889
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Speaker 4: to handle that, which is why the Bills are so

890
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Speaker 4: high on him. He's a fast guy and can go

891
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 4: sticky coverage and he's not gonna be a penalty machine.

892
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Speaker 3: Break time for us here, more of your phone calls.

893
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Speaker 3: When we come back. We'll lead off with Mark in

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Speaker 3: Jersey City.

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Speaker 2: When we return here on one Bill's Live presented by

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Speaker 2: a Lot of Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio Time for

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Speaker 2: Week in Section six Buffalo Region, it's Keith Wing from

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Speaker 2: Williamsville South. The Billies are off to a six and

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Speaker 2: oh start in the twenty five season under his guidance.

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Speaker 2: In Section five Rochester Greece Arcadia is Matt Lepinsky is

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Speaker 2: this week's winner. Lepinske led his team to a big

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Speaker 2: win over Grease Athena as they defeated their arrival twenty

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Speaker 3: As well at five and oh. So congrats to those coaches.

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Speaker 2: Right back to the phones we go at eight h

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Speaker 2: three zho five fifty one eight eight five point fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty as we are asking you, how has

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Speaker 2: the draft class altered your confidence in the Bills defense?

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Speaker 2: To Mark in Jersey City, next, what's up Mark?

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Speaker 8: Good afternoon, gentlemen, Thanks for taking my call. It's altered tremendously.

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Speaker 8: But the coaching additions that were alluded to prior, I

913
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 8: think have helped even more because the coverage getting say,

914
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 8: the spinning of the dial, is that what the terminology

915
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 8: they like to use is going to be different as well.

916
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Speaker 8: Behind the rush, people overreact to that Baltimore game as

917
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 8: it was a it was this barometer of the Bill's

918
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 8: run defense. No outside another game where Tarren Johnson after

919
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 8: the Dolphin game said they willingly gave up those rushing

920
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 8: yards on purpose because they didn't want to get beat

921
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Speaker 8: on the back end. That tells me they didn't trust

922
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Speaker 8: their back end their ability to stick with guys and

923
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Speaker 8: cover as long as they did, particularly against the team

924
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Speaker 8: like the Dolphins. That's what I feel. I feel like

925
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Speaker 8: the run defense was in the middle of the pack,

926
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Speaker 8: right outside the top ten. I think it was like

927
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Speaker 8: what the end of fourteenth. It was the coverage where

928
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 8: you sided the completion percentage, and if you look at

929
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Speaker 8: the history of the Bills, that's extremely high. They have

930
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Speaker 8: a very high bar when it comes to the completion

931
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Speaker 8: percentage and pass defense. So there was games where Brandon

932
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Speaker 8: Condrington was their primary outside backup corner. Look at their draft,

933
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Speaker 8: they did not want the two prior case losses in

934
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Speaker 8: the playoffs. Where was it Douglas running around on a

935
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Speaker 8: gimpy knee. It was Elam Bean Jackson. And then we

936
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Speaker 8: know what happened last year with Dane and I'm sorry

937
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Speaker 8: Dane Benford early with a concussion and then Elam you know,

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Speaker 8: thanks taking my call. Guys.

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Speaker 3: Yep, sure thing no problem. Yeah, that's why corner was.

940
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Speaker 3: They doubled down on it.

941
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Speaker 2: And look, Hancock is probably going to be more of

942
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: a slot safety guy according to Brandon Bean, and you

943
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: know he'll be mixed around in a hybrid type role.

944
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Speaker 2: But yeah, they it's over sixty eight percent completion against

945
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Speaker 2: last year was the fifth highest completion percentage by opposing

946
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Speaker 2: quarterbacks against the defense in the league.

947
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Speaker 1: Bills.

948
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Speaker 4: I'll give just we'll say it one more time. The

949
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Speaker 4: Bill's ranked nineteenth in run defense per play yards per play.

950
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Speaker 3: Arts we played, they were twelve twelve or overall.

951
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Speaker 4: So my point about this has been, and I'm maybe

952
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Speaker 4: if I can articulate at once and satisfy myself to

953
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 4: spit it out. They gave up a lot whenever the

954
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 4: other team handed it off. But the other team didn't

955
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Speaker 4: hand it off as much as you think they would

956
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Speaker 4: against the ninth teenth ranked run defense because they had

957
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Speaker 4: to keep up on the scoreboard. So they were nineteenth

958
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Speaker 4: in yards per play. Whenever the other team ran it,

959
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: they were only twelfth in yards because the other team

960
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 4: didn't run it that much.

961
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Speaker 2: But they were twenty fourth against the pass. And that's

962
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Speaker 2: a team that used to be first or second in

963
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Speaker 2: the league against the past. When Poyer and Hyde were

964
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Speaker 2: in their heyday twenty eighteen, when they went six and ten,

965
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Speaker 2: they were second in the league in pass defense. They've

966
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Speaker 2: they've dropped a long way from that, and they knew

967
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Speaker 2: they had to get back to it. And that's what

968
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Speaker 2: some of these choices in the draft are about. To

969
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Speaker 2: Joe in cheek Towaga, what's up.

970
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 10: Joe, Oh, how you doing? Guys? Thank you so much

971
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 10: for taking my call. Sure, Nataya, brownie, Man, I appreciate

972
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Speaker 10: everything you do. And Steve, I'm not going to argue

973
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Speaker 10: with him. Man, you forgot more about football than than

974
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 10: I'll ever know.

975
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 4: It's a right I'll forget. I'll forget more in this

976
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Speaker 4: conversation than that too, So you can argue with me

977
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Speaker 4: if you want.

978
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Speaker 10: Joe Hey, let me tell you man, I'm just so

979
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 10: fed up with this defensive line. We are so minor league,

980
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 10: are so weak, and we just get run on and

981
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 10: we got smaller guys, smaller linebackers. Our defensive line. Now

982
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 10: they're big guys. Don't get me wrong. They bring in

983
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 10: big guys. But Steve, you said it yourself. They're in

984
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Speaker 10: their thirties.

985
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 11: I didn't.

986
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Speaker 10: I didn't sign these guys. You didn't. They did. They

987
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 10: knew they were on their backside. We need help if

988
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 10: we're gonna if we're gonna play little league, you know,

989
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 10: soft linebackers and soft safeties and that. I mean, we're

990
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 10: gonna get beat, simple, cut and dry, and I just wish.

991
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 10: I'm not going that for nobody's head. Don't get me wrong,

992
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 10: I'm not going that for no coach. But I'm telling you, man,

993
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 10: we are pitiful. I mean, look what happened is Kansas City.

994
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 10: Their offensive line was crap and they ran on us.

995
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 10: They destroyed us, and we couldn't have stopped their run.

996
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you this the thing that you have

997
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 4: to think about, and it's it's it's an uncomfortable thing.

998
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: Just talk about.

999
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 4: The Bills play Kansas City. They play him tough all

1000
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: the time. We all know that the Bills beat him

1001
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: in the regular season, they lose him in the playoffs.

1002
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 4: The Bill's been banging their head against that Kansas City

1003
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 4: wall for five years.

1004
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: We all know it.

1005
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: Think about this the difference right here, and I know

1006
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 4: this is an extreme, but here's what it is. Look

1007
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 4: at the Bills Chiefs game in that AFC Championship and

1008
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 4: how close it was and how tight it came down

1009
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 4: before fourth down quarterback sneak the Bills are going to

1010
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 4: go in, and however much time was on the clock,

1011
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 4: was going to be Pat Mahomes chance to come back

1012
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 4: and tie it up.

1013
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: The whole thing. It was a tight game.

1014
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 4: Think about the Bills defensive line and what was going

1015
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 4: on in that game. Now think one two weeks later

1016
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 4: when they played Philly, how that game went. That's a

1017
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 4: defensive line that is a problem. That's that's where you're at.

1018
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 4: And now you're not gonna where the right. That's where

1019
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: you're trying to get. That's where every team's trying to get.

1020
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: But that that d line in Philly, it took them

1021
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Speaker 4: like three drafts to get there.

1022
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: Yea.

1023
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 2: They took Ordan Davis one year out of Georgia, and

1024
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: then the next year they took Jalen Carter.

1025
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Speaker 3: The Bills just got two guys.

1026
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're Jalen Carter or Jordan Davis, but

1027
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Speaker 2: because they weren't first or second round picks. They were

1028
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: second and fourth round picks. But they got two guys

1029
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 2: in one draft, right, and then got a defensive end

1030
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Speaker 2: as well. I mean they basically went TJ. Sanders Land

1031
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: and Jackson Dion Walker in succession in one draft class.

1032
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Speaker 3: That's how urgent. I think they saw the situation.

1033
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Speaker 4: That's but you're right, Joe's right when you look at

1034
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 4: other that's that's where you'd like to get to. And

1035
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Speaker 4: the Bills know they need to get bigger, more physical

1036
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 4: up there, so they they're making efforts to do that.

1037
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Speaker 4: But and younger and younger as well, that's right, and

1038
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 4: higher energy level the whole thing. So we'll see if

1039
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 4: it works. But you can obviously see they see what

1040
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 4: you see. You know they and that's why everybody else,

1041
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 4: that's why they addressed it.

1042
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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here when we come back,

1043
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Speaker 2: Hour number two begins with our good friends senior producer

1044
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Speaker 2: from NFL Films, Great Coat sal I'm going to dice

1045
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: up this Bill's draft class and see what he saw

1046
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Speaker 2: on film. Next here on One Bill's Live presented by

1047
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Speaker 2: Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1048
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

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00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: Here an hour number two on a Tuesday, Chris Brown

1050
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: Steve still chopping up the Bills draft class and here

1051
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 2: to do that with us senior producer from NFL Films,

1052
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: Greg Cosel joining us and Greg, I know that when

1053
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: you were on with Maddie and I during the live

1054
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: stream on Night one and Night two, we kind of

1055
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Speaker 2: covered Hairston and Sanders a little bit. But just for

1056
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: our daily listeners here to the Daily Show, maybe just

1057
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 2: give us a quick thumbnail sketch of those two guys

1058
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: before we move on to some of the guys they

1059
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Speaker 2: took later in the draft.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Hashton I thought was a really really good pick. Obviously,

1061
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 14: he's a really good athlete, twitchy and sudden, runs really well.

1062
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 14: But the thing that stood out watching his tape was

1063
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Speaker 14: the way he played z own coverage, understanding route concepts,

1064
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 14: route combinations, the gray areas, the conflict areas. I thought

1065
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Speaker 14: he was really good at that. But now you're also

1066
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Speaker 14: getting just a really superior athlete at the corner position.

1067
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Speaker 14: Obviously they hope he can win the job opposite Ben.

1068
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Speaker 14: For this is a great example of the speed. That's

1069
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Speaker 14: Isaiah Bond from Texas who can really run and you

1070
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 14: can see the recovery speed. I mean that's critical on

1071
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 14: this league because you know what corners do get beat,

1072
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 14: that's what happens. And then Sanders was a really interesting

1073
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 14: pick as well. He's a certain kind of dtackle. He's

1074
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Speaker 14: a more of a one gap player. He's not necessarily

1075
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Speaker 14: a two gap player. He's a penetrator. He's a high

1076
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Speaker 14: level athlete for the position. He can rush the quarterback.

1077
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 14: He actually showed quite a bit of quality hand usage,

1078
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Speaker 14: which you don't see a lot of, you know, with

1079
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 14: college defensive linemen, normally they have to be taught that.

1080
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 14: But he had really good hand usage. He was able

1081
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 14: to work half a man work the edges. You see

1082
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 14: it right here. This is pretty typical of what he

1083
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 14: was able to do as a pass rusher. So you know,

1084
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Speaker 14: they drafted a player that's probably rotational early in his

1085
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 14: career because in an ideal world, he's a three technique,

1086
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 14: which is basically what ed Oliver is in their base defense.

1087
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Speaker 14: But if he shows well through camp, I would imagine

1088
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Speaker 14: he might get some opportunities in the sub fronts.

1089
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Speaker 4: And then as the draft went along, the Bills just

1090
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 4: kept double down and then tripled down Dion Walker the

1091
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 4: big kid out.

1092
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Landon Jackson, the defensive end down a lot.

1093
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: So I know, you really liked him.

1094
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Speaker 4: I remember talking about him in the run up to

1095
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 4: the draft, and here he is, he lands as a

1096
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 4: Buffalo bill.

1097
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 14: Yeah, and I was, I mean, I thought he was

1098
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 14: better than a third round pick. My guess is they

1099
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 14: thought so too. I really like Landon Jackson. I you know, again,

1100
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 14: I never get into white guys drop or I don't

1101
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 14: get into it. A reach it yet doesn't that's not

1102
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 14: relevant to me.

1103
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 15: But I thought that.

1104
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 14: You know, he has great length, he has he plays

1105
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 14: with great reach. Even though his arms aren't necessarily super long.

1106
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 14: He plays with a great feel for his arm extension

1107
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 14: and arm length. You know, you have to keep in

1108
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 14: mind when you watch these guys how they're deployed in

1109
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 14: college versus how they might be deployed in the league.

1110
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 14: And I think that's a factor you have to consider.

1111
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 14: Because in college he played a lot of sort of

1112
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 14: four I inside in the base defense because they played

1113
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 14: a lot of three man fronts. But he's a d

1114
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 14: end and as I I probably said to you guys,

1115
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 14: I think Brownie I always said.

1116
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: It to you.

1117
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 14: Just have people go take a look at the game

1118
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 14: against LSU when he matched up numerous times to Will Campbell,

1119
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 14: and he had really good snaps against Will Campbell, who

1120
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 14: lets people probably know who's the fourth pick in the

1121
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 14: draft to one of your division opponents, New England. And

1122
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 14: I think he can become a quality pass rusher. He's long,

1123
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 14: he's athletic. The combine I think opened a lot of

1124
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 14: eyes because in the agility drills he looked really good

1125
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 14: because I think there was a thought that at six', six,

1126
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 14: well he's going to be a big. Guy he's not

1127
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 14: going to be that, fluid he's not going to be that.

1128
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 15: Nimble but he.

1129
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 14: Is AND i think that you see it right, here

1130
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 14: this is Against Will. Campbell he just beat him off

1131
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 14: the edge with no problem at, all and he beat

1132
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 14: him with quickness and bend and he can do. That

1133
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 14: SO i really like this, pick and in some ways

1134
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 14: it fits with what The bills you, know normally draft,

1135
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 14: guys which is, tall, long defensive, lineman particularly defensive. ENDS i,

1136
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 14: mean he's a better pass, rusher for, instance Than. Epanessa

1137
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 14: so we'll see how it all plays, out.

1138
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 2: Yep and then the big Guy Dion walker And Brandon

1139
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: Bean greg just to kind of keep you up to.

1140
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 2: Speed that was probably his most eye opening. Comment when

1141
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: the draft was, over and he was asked About Dion,

1142
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: walker and he, said if you just go off his

1143
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, tape if he came out in the

1144
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, Draft Brandon bean, said he's a first round.

1145
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 3: Pick no questions. Asked now it.

1146
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: Did Dion walker told us in the conference call he

1147
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 2: played with a pars defect in his, back which is

1148
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 2: basically a cracked bone in one of his. Vertebrae played

1149
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 2: through that and with a lot of pain last, year

1150
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 2: which kind of explains the drop off in production last.

1151
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,800
Speaker 3: Year but maybe just give us your thoughts on.

1152
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 14: Him it's so funny That Brandon meat said that BECAUSE

1153
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 14: i watched him last, summer Because, brownie as you you,

1154
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 14: know should you look at this at last summer when

1155
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 14: people did you, know they're so called mock, drafts which

1156
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 14: of course people have already started for next.

1157
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 15: Year but you, know he was viewed as a top ten.

1158
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 14: Guy so you, KNOW i did him last summer from

1159
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 14: his twenty twenty three, tape AND i couldn't agree. MORE i,

1160
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 14: mean he had a rare combination of size and, athleticism imposing.

1161
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 14: Length there were times his natural quickness for that size was.

1162
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 14: STARTLING i mean he just was. Athletic he was, quick

1163
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 14: he had, strength he had, power he had dominant run game,

1164
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 14: snaps he had dominant pass rush. SNAPS i, mean he

1165
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 14: just looked like this guy could do anything he wanted to.

1166
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 14: Do that he could be a one gap, tackle he

1167
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 14: could be a two.

1168
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 15: Gap, player you.

1169
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 16: Know so.

1170
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 14: You, know the biggest issue he asked to, face which

1171
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 14: is often the case with taller players because he's six

1172
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 14: seven and three eighths by the, way that's what he

1173
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 14: was at the, combine is just the tendency to play too.

1174
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 14: High that is always the biggest factor that tall guy's. Face,

1175
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 14: steve you know that that's just the way it. IS i,

1176
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 14: mean they're, tall you, know so sometimes you, know they

1177
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 14: just end up standing, up and no matter how strong

1178
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 14: you are or how athletic you, are if you stand,

1179
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 14: up it negatively impacts both your strength and your. Quickness

1180
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 14: but this, GUY i, mean some of his snaps are absolutely.

1181
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 14: Dominant and, again he may not be the kind of

1182
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 14: guy you played fifty or fifty five snaps a, game

1183
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 14: but if you play him thirty snaps and he can

1184
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 14: be a really dominant, player you've got.

1185
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: Something, yeah no question about.

1186
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 4: It he's he may be as he may have the

1187
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 4: most potential of any of the draft picks in this

1188
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 4: class because of, it because of his, size, strength and.

1189
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 4: ATHLETICISM i, MEAN i agree with. YOU i went back

1190
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 4: and watched his twenty twenty three. Tape he seemed because

1191
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 4: of the back, INJURY i, guess AND i had one

1192
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: in college as, well it sapped his.

1193
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: Energy it looked, like, right he played just at a different, speed.

1194
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 15: Right. Yeah, OH i couldn't agree.

1195
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 14: More it's, so you, Know i'm so Glad brown and

1196
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 14: you mentioned What Brandon bean said BECAUSE i was going

1197
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 14: to say the same.

1198
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 15: Thing, Yeah and you, know obviously it's what the tape,

1199
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 15: shows you.

1200
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 14: Know and THEN i watched the. Tape BUT i, mean

1201
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 14: you know this guy in twenty twenty, THREE i mean

1202
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 14: you saw it. ALL i mean you just looked at

1203
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 14: this guy and, Thought, god if he just continues to,

1204
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 14: improve this guy is you know for that sigh and

1205
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 14: that movement, ability and plus he's. Strong he had heavy.

1206
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 14: HANDS i MEAN i saw him with stab, moves rip,

1207
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 14: moves club. MOVES i, mean he was just a man

1208
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 14: out there and it just wasn't the. Same of course

1209
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 14: in twenty twenty, four AND i didn't know about the.

1210
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 15: Injury So i'm glad you told me.

1211
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 14: That now you probably want him to lose a little,

1212
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 14: weight maybe not a, ton but you, know just or

1213
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 14: or maybe, structured you, know sculpt him a little, more

1214
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 14: which is what teams do with nutrition and weight, training

1215
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 14: and you know all those things THAT nfl, teams you,

1216
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 14: know they have specific people for. That but if he,

1217
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 14: can As steve, said if he can reach and then

1218
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 14: potentials that that bad word and in a lot of,

1219
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 14: cases but if he, can if he can play to

1220
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 14: what his traits, are you've got.

1221
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 15: Something.

1222
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah and Then Jordan hancock is the fifth consecutive defensive

1223
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: player they take in their draft. Class, yeah and it

1224
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 2: was interesting to Hear Brandon bean say it's their intention

1225
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 2: to use him as a safety slash.

1226
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: Nickel, yeah what he is? That, yeah that's their. Intent

1227
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: maybe just give us your thoughts on his, position flex and.

1228
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 17: Versatility, Yeah, well he the slot was what he predominantly,

1229
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 17: played but the Way Ohio state played this, year even

1230
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 17: though he was in the, slot it was a different

1231
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 17: kind of.

1232
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 14: Slot so he really played kind of an off coverage,

1233
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 14: slot which had a little more of a safety feel to.

1234
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 14: It but he also did have snaps where he truly

1235
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 14: played slot and even played press man in the. Slot this,

1236
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 14: kid to, me and you guys will understand, this And

1237
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 14: steve for, sure because you Played, steve you'll know WHAT i.

1238
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 14: MEAN i thought this kid was just a good football.

1239
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 14: Player like you wouldn't call him a special, athlete ALTHOUGH

1240
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 14: i know his pro day numbers were, very very, good

1241
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 14: but you, know you wouldn't call him special in terms

1242
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 14: of his, movement like he's not necessarily sudden and, twitchy

1243
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 14: but he could plant and drive really.

1244
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 15: Well as we just.

1245
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 14: SAW i thought HE'D i thought he had a really

1246
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 14: good feel in zone, coverage and of course they play

1247
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 14: a lot of his own. Coverage LIKE i, said he

1248
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 14: did have snaps of a man, coverage even press man

1249
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 14: where he showed strong has to disrupt and reroute slot.

1250
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 14: Receivers this this, kid to me is just a good football.

1251
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 14: Player and the reason he's a fifth round, Pick i'm

1252
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 14: sure is because number, one he's not a special, athlete

1253
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 14: and number, two he doesn't have that one position where you, say, oh,

1254
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 14: yeah this is where we're going to line him up

1255
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 14: and he's going to be really really. Good but in some,

1256
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 14: ways and you never, know where a guy's going to get,

1257
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 14: drafted and then when certain guys get, drafted it all

1258
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 14: makes sense to you the team that drafts him And

1259
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 14: brown he wants The bills drafted.

1260
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 15: HIM i, thought, oh, yeah that really makes good sense

1261
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 15: for The. Bills he kind of fits what they.

1262
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 4: Do, Right HE'S i, mean He's Taron. JOHNSON i mean,

1263
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 4: RIGHT i mean that's, feisty. Competitive, yeah little undergifted man.

1264
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: To so to.

1265
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 4: Speak and yet he's one of those guys like, yo

1266
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 4: when it push comes To chevety watched the, Film it's, like,

1267
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 4: Man i'm glad we got that. Guy that's kind of

1268
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 4: WHAT i saw WHEN i was watching his tape Of Ohio,

1269
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 4: state AND.

1270
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 14: I couldn't agree. More you, know he doesn't necessarily flash

1271
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 14: in the sense of, wow look at that guy. Move

1272
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 14: but he's just a good football. Player and the thing

1273
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 14: THAT i think really stood out is he's willing to.

1274
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 14: Tackle he's, competitive he's. AGGRESSIVE i mean he just you,

1275
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 14: know he plays football like you can tell, that you,

1276
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 14: know he embraces the physical nature of the.

1277
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 3: Game all, right they.

1278
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: Didn't they finally go offense for the first time with

1279
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: their next pick in round, five and they go with

1280
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: a traditional inline tight end prospect In Jackson, hawes who you,

1281
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 2: know quite, Frankly greg they needed they needed one because

1282
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 2: they did not re Sign Quinton, morris who did a

1283
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: lot of the dirty work as the team's third tight.

1284
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 2: End this guy is, bigger stronger than, him and more

1285
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 2: of a traditional why tight.

1286
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 14: End you could make the, Argument, Obviously i'm not seeing

1287
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 14: every single tight end in college football that came, out

1288
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 14: but of the ONES i, saw which was a good, Amount,

1289
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 14: BROWNIE i think he was the best blocking tight end

1290
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 14: THAT i. Watched he's not necessarily, receiver but they're not

1291
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 14: drafting him to do. That so and, again then you,

1292
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 14: know can he, become you, know over time at least

1293
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 14: a serviceable. Receiver you don't. Know but the fact is

1294
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 14: this guy can. Block, obviously we're seeing shots of him

1295
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 14: catch the, football and you, know he's not. Unathletic you,

1296
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 14: know he's certainly not a top tier athlete for the

1297
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 14: tight end, position but.

1298
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 15: You know he's he's a really really good. BLOCKER i

1299
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 15: mean that's his. Thing you, know he's a really good.

1300
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: Blocker, yeah he's a little bit a Former bills tight,

1301
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: end like Like nic O'Leary a little bit, right and, like.

1302
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 4: You, know just one of those, salty gritty tight ends

1303
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 4: that every once in a while they catch a flare

1304
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: pass on a totally unexpected kind of. THING i, mean

1305
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 4: this is A bills team With dalton Kin kid And Dawson,

1306
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 4: knox guys who have who are receiving tight. Ends knox

1307
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 4: is a little bit more, physical but this guy is

1308
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 4: just at the other end of the, spectrum.

1309
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 14: Right and then, also this is a team that played

1310
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 14: more with six to zero line personnel last year than

1311
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 14: any team in the league by a wide. Margin So

1312
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 14: anderson they re. Signed SO i can't imagine that's going

1313
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 14: to dramatically.

1314
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 15: Change but So.

1315
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 14: I'll see how it all plays. OUT i, mean, look you,

1316
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 14: know every year's different. Teams you, know go Through OTA's mini,

1317
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 14: camp training, camp they add some, things they make some.

1318
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 14: Adjustments you, know that's the way it. Works you never

1319
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 14: know Exact no team is going to do exactly the same.

1320
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 14: THING i, mean they'll stick to staples and foundational. Stuff

1321
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 14: every team. Does but you know, what you, know how coaches.

1322
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 14: Are you know they might be on, Vacation, steve but

1323
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 14: you know they're still playing with all the salt and pepper.

1324
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 14: Shakers when they go out to dinner with their, families

1325
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 14: moving people. Around you, know that's the way it. Works

1326
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 14: these guys think about this twenty four to, seven three

1327
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 14: hundred and sixty five days out of the.

1328
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: YEAR i, mean you know.

1329
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 2: That let me take that a step, Further, greg because

1330
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 2: towards the end of the year last, year we Saw

1331
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 2: Joe brady start to utilize more eye formation With Reggie

1332
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: gilliam on the. Field, yeah and we also Saw anderson

1333
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: still on the field in those heavy. Sets and we

1334
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: know the success That Kansas city has had the last

1335
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 2: couple of years using thirteen. Personnel what do you what

1336
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 2: do you think about that? Possibility not to say that

1337
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: The Jackson hawes pick is a signal of, that but

1338
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 2: just the thought of that going forward this.

1339
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 15: Year my thought.

1340
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 14: About playing with multiple tight ends or six to zero

1341
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 14: linemen is when you have a mobile, quarterback you can

1342
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 14: do that much more than when you, don't because if

1343
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 14: by chance He josh drops back and he doesn't see,

1344
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 14: it he can run and make. Plays if you have

1345
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 14: just a pure pocket quarterback and you do that and

1346
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 14: he drops back and there's nothing there because the defense,

1347
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 14: wins what then Happens he throws the ball, away so

1348
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 14: you can do it much more effectively when your quarterback

1349
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 14: can then make something happen, brownie you, know because sometimes

1350
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,479
Speaker 14: the defense wins in those, situations you. Know but they could,

1351
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 14: definitely you, know see that as an. Option and we

1352
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 14: know that the run, game that they want the run

1353
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 14: game to continue to be a. Factor so, YEAH i

1354
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 14: could easily see.

1355
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 4: That, yeah let's talk a little bit about The Virginia

1356
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 4: tech Cornerback Dorian. Strong, ah what do you think about?

1357
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: HIM i loved.

1358
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,360
Speaker 15: Him, it's you, know another. Guy when they drafted, HIM

1359
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 15: i was. Thrilled this guy is a press man. Corner.

1360
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 14: OKAY i actually spoke to a coach in the league

1361
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 14: who's a good friend of mine in THE, nfl who's

1362
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 14: very good friends with the Coaches Virginia, tech who's been

1363
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 14: coaching for a long, time and said That Dorian strong

1364
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 14: was the best pressman corner he's ever been. Around, wow

1365
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 14: think about, that you. Know, SO i mean this guy

1366
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 14: could play with what we call mirror match. Technique he was,

1367
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 14: patient he was, Poised he waited for the receiver to

1368
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 14: declare his. Release then he just got in his hip

1369
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 14: pocket and he carried him super smooth, efficiency there were

1370
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 14: times that he had targeted physicality and press where he

1371
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 14: disrupted the receiver of the line of scrimmage with heavy hand.

1372
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 14: Strikes you, know he wasn't what you'd call sudden and,

1373
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 14: explosive which is why he's drafted where he. Was but

1374
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 14: this guy has no wasted, steps no wasted. Motion he

1375
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 14: is just a comfortable pressman. Corner and the fact that

1376
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 14: he ran you, KNOW i guess a four or five?

1377
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 14: Five was it SOMETHING i that you know he was

1378
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 14: also another reason he gets drafted where he. Is BUT

1379
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,240
Speaker 14: i thought the tape showed that he played faster than

1380
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 14: his time speed and his mirror matchability really stood out on.

1381
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 14: Tape this was another. Pick obviously we didn't talk about

1382
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 14: him leading up to the, draft but WHEN i saw

1383
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 14: that they drafted this, KID i, said, wow that's to.

1384
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 15: Me you, know the only WAY i can do.

1385
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 14: THIS i don't get caught up, in you, know Whether

1386
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 14: i'm smarter than the. TEAMS i, MEAN i don't do.

1387
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 14: That you, KNOW i have too much respect for the

1388
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 14: people in the. Business you, KNOW i don't get caught

1389
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 14: up in. THAT i can only tell you HOW i

1390
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 14: evaluated the. Players that's ALL i can tell. You AND

1391
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 14: i really like this kid's.

1392
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 2: Tape AND i would have to think that With harrison

1393
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 2: And strong on the, roster who have certainly have the

1394
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 2: skill set to play press, man it's an indication as

1395
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 2: to the kind of flexibility with defensive play call and

1396
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: they would like to.

1397
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 3: HAVE i would think, yeah AND i think we.

1398
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:54,919
Speaker 14: Agree everybody would agree. That you, know at some point

1399
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 14: you've got to be able to line up and play

1400
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 14: press in THE. Nfl, now you, know you can't just

1401
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 14: have your corners playoffs even quarters.

1402
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 15: COVERAGE i had a.

1403
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 14: Great conversation with a coach who's in The league OF

1404
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 14: dB coach who said, that you, know one of the

1405
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 14: biggest myths is that you can't play press in. Quarters he,

1406
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 14: said more and more teams are going to start doing,

1407
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 14: that playing press on the outside in quarters, coverage and

1408
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 14: so you need corners that can do. That you can't

1409
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 14: just keep playing off coverage in this league.

1410
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 4: Now one THING i was worried WHEN i Saw dorian's strong.

1411
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 4: Play one of the things THAT i was looking for

1412
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 4: was how he used his hands in coverage when he

1413
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 4: started getting into. IT i know they let him play

1414
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 4: a little bit more physical in the college and back

1415
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 4: into the, defense you think that'll be an issue for.

1416
01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 4: HIM i, mean he's not a blazing spurner, guy and you,

1417
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 4: know and so you worry sometimes about where they start

1418
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 4: grabbing a holding, to you, know to keep.

1419
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 14: Up it's a great, Point, steve because you know what,

1420
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 14: here it's funny you say that because in one of

1421
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 14: the WAY i do my, SHEETS i have strengths. Weaknesses

1422
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 14: in my weakness, SECTION i said tendency to be a

1423
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 14: little too handsy on the more intermediate vertical routes to

1424
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 14: maintain contact with wide.

1425
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 15: Receivers so that showed up on.

1426
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 14: Tape you saw it, too and that's something he's going

1427
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 14: kept to work on because THAT i think that's just

1428
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 14: natural because you know you can do, it so you do,

1429
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 14: it and then you get to the league and you

1430
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 14: can't do.

1431
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 15: It so you, KNOW i think that's an adjustment for.

1432
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: Sure All, right we know they took the Tackle chase

1433
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: lun but let's move on to the wide. Receiver at

1434
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 2: the end of the draft out Of, Maryland Caden prather

1435
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 2: ran a four to four. Six but to me it

1436
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,480
Speaker 2: seems like more build up, speed not sudden and explosive,

1437
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: guy which is probably why he's getting drafted in round,

1438
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 2: seven but just give us your thoughts on.

1439
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 3: Him he looked like a chain mover For. Maryland.

1440
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 14: Though you know this, GUY i kept going, back and

1441
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,879
Speaker 14: obviously he's a seventh round, pick so we have to understand.

1442
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 14: That you, know the guy could be cut and you,

1443
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 14: know no one's gonna, go oh my, god they made

1444
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 14: a bad. Pick but there were strong snapshots of this

1445
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 14: kid looking like he could. Play you know where he

1446
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,799
Speaker 14: was really good on inbreaking. Routes he's a big. BODY

1447
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 14: i think his hands have to be a little more,

1448
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 14: consistent but when he ran those, inbreakers slant out glance

1449
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 14: routes and had some run after, catch he looked really.

1450
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,680
Speaker 14: Good there were times he showed vertical ability where he

1451
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 14: got on top of the, corner stacked them really. Well

1452
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 14: he made, tough contested. CATCHES i thought there was much

1453
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 14: to develop and Cultivate. Brown he now it may never.

1454
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 14: Happen you, know when you.

1455
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 15: Say, that you never know you know how that.

1456
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,040
Speaker 14: GOES i, mean that's why he's a seventh round. Pick you,

1457
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 14: know if he was phenomenal at all this all the,

1458
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:22,519
Speaker 14: time he'd be a third or a second or third round.

1459
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 14: Pick and he's obviously not a true, burner but you,

1460
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 14: know he's a big, kid and you know there were

1461
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 14: times he just looked really.

1462
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 15: GOOD i, mean and it's just not often.

1463
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 14: Enough and he had too many drops on routine, throws

1464
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 14: which you know you have to clean up because seventh

1465
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,479
Speaker 14: round picks don't get a ton of. Chances and when

1466
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 14: he gets a, chance if he starts dropping the, ball

1467
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 14: he's you.

1468
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 15: Know that's it's going to. Be there's the.

1469
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 14: Door but you know there's something to work with with this,

1470
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 14: kid you, know AND i imagine that the wide receiver

1471
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,320
Speaker 14: Coach Adam henry is going, to you, know be pretty

1472
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:55,040
Speaker 14: excited to work with.

1473
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: Him all.

1474
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 2: Right so just a quick overarching, opinion if you, could

1475
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 2: because we know The bills last year as a defense

1476
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 2: struggled at times twenty ninth and third down, defense twenty

1477
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 2: fourth against the, pass eighteenth in total, sacks twenty third

1478
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 2: in sack. Rate there were a lot of deficiencies on

1479
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 2: that side of the, ball some of the masked by

1480
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 2: the fact that the team came close to averaging thirty

1481
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 2: points a, game and some of the masked by their

1482
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,560
Speaker 2: ability to take the ball. Away how much do you

1483
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 2: feel they have helped themselves in terms of fortifying some

1484
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 2: of those. Deficiencies taking with a grain of salt the

1485
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 2: fact that rookies are going to get playing time in

1486
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 2: probably small doses at the, beginning And.

1487
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 15: Brown you AND i both know that you can't count

1488
01:11:39,160 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 15: on turnovers every. Year you, know that's just not one

1489
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 15: of those things you can count.

1490
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 14: On so, well, look AS i, SAID i can only

1491
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 14: tell you HOW i evaluated the players that they, drafted

1492
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 14: AND i like their draft a. Lot now they, WANT

1493
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,840
Speaker 14: i imagine they want a number of these players to

1494
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 14: be able to make contributions as. Rookies that's always an open.

1495
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:00,040
Speaker 14: Question you just don't know the answer to. That but

1496
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 14: they obviously drafted defense with the first five. Picks it

1497
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 14: was absolutely. Necessary we had talked about that throughout the.

1498
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 14: SEASON i mean the last, three four or five years

1499
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 14: Since josh Became. Josh they score a lot of. Points

1500
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 14: offense is not an. Issue putting points on the boards

1501
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 14: not the issue. Here so you know their defense has

1502
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 14: to be, better and they addressed. IT i like the

1503
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 14: players they, Drafted that's ALL i can tell. You how

1504
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 14: quickly they assimilate and get opportunities to play will be

1505
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,920
Speaker 14: a matter Of OTA's mini camp and training. Camp BUT

1506
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 14: i would imagine that they would Want hairston in an ideal,

1507
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 14: world to win the job Opposite. Benford i'm sure they

1508
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 14: would Love sanders to be able to play in sub.

1509
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 14: Fronts that's where he'll. START i really Like Landon. JACKSON i,

1510
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 14: MEAN i don't know what their plans are with, him

1511
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,920
Speaker 14: but you, KNOW i think he could play in subfronts

1512
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 14: two at. Times Dion walker to me is kind of

1513
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,200
Speaker 14: the wild card because if that guy plays to what

1514
01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 14: his trades, are you, know AND i don't know the

1515
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 14: kid that you, know that's the. STUFF i can't speak to.

1516
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 14: That but assuming all good, things he might be the

1517
01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 14: kind of guy that's just hard to keep off the

1518
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 14: field because his traits are really high.

1519
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 15: Level.

1520
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he could be a. Monster, yeah in every

1521
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: sense of the. Word.

1522
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah AND i think at the, Beginning Landon jackson could

1523
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 2: be someone like a base end and then in obvious passing,

1524
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 2: Situations bursa comes on the field and rushes the.

1525
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 3: PASSES i could see.

1526
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 14: That that's a great point BECAUSE i don't think Because

1527
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 14: bosa is at the point in his career he can't

1528
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 14: play forty five snaps a.

1529
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 2: Game, Yeah SO i kind of envisioned that For jackson

1530
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: in an ideal sense for. Him But, greg thanks all

1531
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 2: off season for the. Help we'll catch up with you

1532
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 2: at the end of the. Summer maybe catch up with

1533
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 2: you around preseason, time and we'll see how these guys

1534
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 2: are coming.

1535
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 15: Along you know, What, brownie it'll happen before you know.

1536
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 3: It we all have the shortest summers in professional, sports we.

1537
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 3: Know thanks very, Much, Greg we'll catch.

1538
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: Up with you you guys.

1539
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 15: Always, yeah, THANKS i have a great, Summer yeah.

1540
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: Too Thanks.

1541
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,679
Speaker 2: Greg senior producer FROM Nfl, Films greg Co sale joining

1542
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 2: us Called Jackson hawes the best blocking tight end in the.

1543
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 3: Draft how about that full eye opening for a fifth round.

1544
01:13:59,360 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 3: Pick you don't hear?

1545
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: That every day you start thinking, about, well what's that?

1546
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: Mean what could it? Mean what if everything goes along the?

1547
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: Way we don't.

1548
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 4: Know but because this is WHAT i keep talking, about

1549
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 4: they got to figure out what the recipe is gonna.

1550
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 1: Be what are they gonna?

1551
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 4: Do, Well, well you Put haws on the field With

1552
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 4: kincaid and knocks and and and Maybe. Anderson let's go.

1553
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 3: Right but that's WHY i asked him about thirteen. Personnel,

1554
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 3: yeah and With cook in the.

1555
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 4: BACKFIELD i, mean now all of a, sudden now you

1556
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 4: do you still have four pass, catchers you, know the

1557
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 4: three tight ends Without anderson And.

1558
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: Cook, yeah that's a that's a. Problem you know what you?

1559
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 3: Yah?

1560
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah what do?

1561
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 5: You?

1562
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah joh? Yeah plus THE, mvp that's, uh that's an.

1563
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: Issue this get me fired up, Now, yeah it's, uh

1564
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to think.

1565
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 4: About and LIKE i, said we're gonna find out what

1566
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 4: guys can, do what they can't, do and they'll formulate

1567
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 4: it around. Him you, know it's gonna Be it'll be

1568
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,000
Speaker 4: when the defensive line suspensions are, over when we find

1569
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 4: they know what we got. Offensively now early, on it's

1570
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 4: gonna Be, Josh josh and More josh because he's gonna

1571
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 4: like they're gonna be figuring it out like it.

1572
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 2: Was some of these young guys may play a little

1573
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 2: bit more than initially anticipated because of those veteran.

1574
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 1: Absences, Right so we'll.

1575
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 4: See it's, man it's fun to get. It start thinking

1576
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 4: about the nuts and bolts of.

1577
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 2: It now that we already have two callers SAYING i

1578
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 2: wish the season started, tomorrow getting amp. Myself we got

1579
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 2: to take a break, here but we'll get back to

1580
01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 2: the phone calls when we. Return So mark And West,

1581
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 2: Seneca bob And fairport will get to you when we come.

1582
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: Back what Did buffalo's draft class due to alter your

1583
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 2: confidence in The bill's defense this coming?

1584
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:37,599
Speaker 3: Fall you let us know next.

1585
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: Year On One Bill's live presented by a lot Of,

1586
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: Health It's Buffalo Bills. Radio All i've been asking this,

1587
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: afternoon how has The bill's draft class altered your confidence

1588
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 2: in their defense for the coming.

1589
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 3: Season we know the proof's in the pudding and they

1590
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 3: got to get out on the field and prove. It

1591
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 3: but let us know your. Thoughts at eight o three

1592
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 3: zero five fifty To mark In West.

1593
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: Seneca, first an, Apology, MARK i hung up on your

1594
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 2: Prematurely sorry about that.

1595
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 10: Yesterday oh that's, okay.

1596
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:16,759
Speaker 18: Brownie you could never do anything to hurt my. Feelings

1597
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 18: hey you good, AFTERNOON a bold you. Guys, Hey, steve

1598
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 18: how you doing?

1599
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 10: Good first of, all now that the draft.

1600
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 18: Of free agency is, OVER i like to take a

1601
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 18: step back and evaluate What brandon has, done and HISTORICALLY

1602
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 18: i Think brandon held true to what he likes to.

1603
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 18: Do he first of, all he signed a couple of

1604
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 18: veteran defensive, backs he always seems to like to do,

1605
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 18: that which is always a good, idea you, know to

1606
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 18: sportify with THE nfl. Players but WHAT i really liked

1607
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 18: about the draft was that even though he went ahead

1608
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:54,640
Speaker 18: and did, that it didn't stop him from bringing in

1609
01:16:54,840 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 18: some useful talent into the back END i think we've

1610
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 18: needed for quite a. While and as far as funny

1611
01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 18: that coaching came up today because when you look at

1612
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 18: the defense, now you're gonna have a significant number of

1613
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 18: new players that could be playing significant, roles maybe through

1614
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 18: the whole. Season so, COACHING i think is going to

1615
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 18: be really. IMPORTANT i, mean every year it's a big

1616
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,759
Speaker 18: challenge to get guys to be cohesive and play. TOGETHER

1617
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 18: i believe that's a, given but you got a lot

1618
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 18: of new players that you're gonna have to do this.

1619
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 18: With when you look at the defensive, line and then

1620
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 18: having six weeks to wait on two of your, veterans

1621
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,839
Speaker 18: with all the rookies that are gonna have in a defensive,

1622
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 18: line and then they're gonna what they possibly could have

1623
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 18: been a defensive. Backfield so this could possibly be the

1624
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 18: most challenging year in quite a while for the coaches

1625
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 18: to coach these guys, up but maybe also the most

1626
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 18: fun time because it looks like they've upgraded the talent.

1627
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 18: LEVEL i always fun to coach talented, Guys so that's

1628
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 18: what it may be the second half to maybe two

1629
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 18: thirds into the season for these guys to really look

1630
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 18: like a. Defense it may take that. Long that's What i'm.

1631
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 18: Expecting so that's my. Observation guys have a great, Day.

1632
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 3: Yep that's. MARK i would say there could be a hidden.

1633
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 2: Benefit and, LOOK i think if we all had our,

1634
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: brothers you'd rather Have Larry, Ogan jobi And Michael hoyt

1635
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 2: part of the equation on defense for all seventeen. Games

1636
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 2: but what might be the silver lining in that is

1637
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:40,639
Speaker 2: guys Like Dion walker And Landon jackson AND. Tj sanders

1638
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 2: get up to speed that much quicker because they're getting

1639
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: valuable reps on the field in the regular.

1640
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 1: Season And Dwayne, Carter, yeah you know the young. Guys so,

1641
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: YES i would agree with. You it is part of

1642
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 1: the problem, too when you have news coming, in but

1643
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 1: it's also part of the landscape for EVERY nfl.

1644
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 4: Team that is the way it. Is there is more

1645
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 4: player movement than ever in TODAY'S. Nfl for every. Team every,

1646
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 4: year there's a higher rate of, turnover there's a higher

1647
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 4: rate of rookie retention because they're cheap, labor and.

1648
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 1: It's just part of the.

1649
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 4: Deal and this, staff Particularly sean McDermott under his, tenure

1650
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 4: has been that's one of the things he has excelled

1651
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 4: at is team building and we see it all the,

1652
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 4: time and that's what they're going to. Be that's basically

1653
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 4: part of the higher, priority is part of the higher

1654
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 4: priority at this time of.

1655
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:43,360
Speaker 1: Year that's what they.

1656
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 4: Do they're bringing these guys in, together getting to think

1657
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 4: like a group and getting them to know each other

1658
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 4: so they can depend on each other and start to

1659
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 4: trust each other and start to hang out, together start

1660
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 4: to become, friends start to love and respect each, other

1661
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 4: start to learn things about each. Other that's what this

1662
01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 4: part of the year is all. About when they get

1663
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 4: to the preseason in the training, camp when they throw

1664
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 4: them in there and they're all living on a college

1665
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 4: campus instead of their million dollar, homes you, know they

1666
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 4: kind of you kind of endure that together and you

1667
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 4: become together so that, yes there are gonna be new

1668
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 4: faces and new things that they got to learn about each.

1669
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,040
Speaker 1: Other but that's what the league is.

1670
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:22,560
Speaker 4: Nowadays so don't think they're unprepared or you, know this

1671
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 4: team is as good or better at it than. Most

1672
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 4: they excel at doing exactly what you think the problems.

1673
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 4: Are in, fact so they for lack of they welcome that,

1674
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,560
Speaker 4: challenge particularly now that they picked their players in the.

1675
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 4: Draft the draft is its own. Challenge but this is

1676
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 4: something that you're throwing it back to the other side

1677
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 4: of the. Building you, know you got your scouts and your,

1678
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,760
Speaker 4: valuators you got your you, know now you're throwing it

1679
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 4: back to the coaching staff and the training staff and

1680
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 4: the and the nuts and, bolts and your leaders Like

1681
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 4: josh And dion And milano And. Bernard you're throwing trevious

1682
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:03,600
Speaker 4: white thrown it back into their. Court say all, right let's. Go, so,

1683
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 4: yes that you're, right it is you got to get

1684
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 4: these guys. Acclimated but you're talking about guys who are

1685
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,840
Speaker 4: good at. It that's this is the wheelhouse of this

1686
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:16,240
Speaker 4: organization at this point in.

1687
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: History And, mark your point is not lost on me

1688
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 2: either about the need for an influx of, youth BECAUSE

1689
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 2: i did the math when The bills walked off the

1690
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 2: field after The chiefs game in THE Afc title, Game

1691
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 2: buffalo's defense defensive line at an average age of twenty

1692
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 2: eight point, eight almost twenty nine years.

1693
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:36,759
Speaker 3: Old that was their average.

1694
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 2: Age now it's twenty four point, seven so it's an

1695
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 2: almost five year difference that they've accomplished with an.

1696
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 4: Influx we talk about it all the, time and of

1697
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 4: course it's all theory because nothing there's nothing.

1698
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:49,600
Speaker 1: Guaranteed about any of.

1699
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 4: This but in theory and generally, speaking younger guys stay

1700
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 4: healthier for whatever.

1701
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: Reason, well they're more.

1702
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 3: Pliable they haven't taken as as less, mileage it's less mileyt.

1703
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 4: Uh they do stay, healthier so you, can to a certain,

1704
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 4: extent you can count on. That, yeah but you, know

1705
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 4: obviously that's a wild card of a. Statistic To bob

1706
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 4: And fairport, next let me punch him up.

1707
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 3: Here what do you got, First?

1708
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,439
Speaker 5: Bob, well some of WHAT i was going to say

1709
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 5: was stolen By.

1710
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 3: Greg BUT.

1711
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 5: I don't agree that we needed new. LINEBACKERS i think

1712
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 5: what we have is, very very. Sufficient and didn't we

1713
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 5: pick up one last.

1714
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 3: Year Eddie ulefoo in round? Six?

1715
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 5: Yeah yes we, Did AND i think out of the

1716
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,519
Speaker 5: draft WHAT i really liked is the fact that we've

1717
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 5: probably going to get three starters out of this, draft

1718
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 5: at very, worst five rotational. Players the first three guys

1719
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 5: that we, PICKED i think are going to be starters

1720
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 5: on this. Team So i'm really excited about. IT i

1721
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 5: think we're going to be much better off than we

1722
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:59,160
Speaker 5: were a year, ago and we're gonna we are going

1723
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,560
Speaker 5: to be bigger and. Stronger that's WHAT i see is

1724
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 5: coming out of. This the other THING i wanted to

1725
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 5: mention is What greg talked About Caden. Prather. Yep WHAT

1726
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 5: i read about him is that he does all branches.

1727
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 11: Of the root.

1728
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:18,320
Speaker 5: Tree he's great in in and out of, cuts and

1729
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 5: he's a hand. Catcher our. Lads are you familiar with our? Lads,

1730
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 5: yes they had him ranked as going in the, third fourth,

1731
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 5: Round SO i think he's got some some talent to

1732
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 5: be worked. With and he's the same size as who

1733
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 5: they've been picking up.

1734
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 2: Recently yeah six three two, Four Yeah, yeah runs a

1735
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 2: four four six, Right AND.

1736
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 3: I would say probably the main, Reason, bob and thanks

1737
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 3: for the. Call we got to move.

1738
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 2: Along the main reason he probably went in the seventh.

1739
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 2: Round And steve AND i both saw this on his.

1740
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 2: Tape there's not a lot of explosiveness off the, line

1741
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 2: not a lot of, suddenness.

1742
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 3: Quick, twitch if you.

1743
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 2: Will he is more of a build up speed guy

1744
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 2: to get to four four, Six he's not four four

1745
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 2: six off the. Line and usually those players go later

1746
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 2: in the draft and the, sudden quick twitchy guys who

1747
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 2: are up to top speed in three. Steps, yeah that's

1748
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: that's the prevailing difference.

1749
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 1: There and you're right.

1750
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 4: There all these draft, picks even the guys in the first,

1751
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 4: round have a wide range of. Evaluations some think they're

1752
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 4: going to be absolutely great players and put them at

1753
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 4: the top of the. Draft other people put them at

1754
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 4: the third. Round so, yeah the fact that you Know Caden,

1755
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 4: prather somebody had him in the third and fourth. Round

1756
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 4: he's welcome to the. Party that's that's where everybody can.

1757
01:24:38,680 --> 01:24:41,719
Speaker 3: Talk so let's go To milton In. Buffalo what's, Up? Milton?

1758
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 16: Yeah how you doing?

1759
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 1: Good?

1760
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 16: YEAH i was pleased with the. DRAFT i think we

1761
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 16: could have got a wide receiver. Earlier but Her Brandy

1762
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 16: bean on the radio, saying you, know we score like thirty,

1763
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 16: months like eight games in a.

1764
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 11: Row.

1765
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 16: Whatever what you got to, realize he, said that was

1766
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 16: the same. Team we have to bring back the same.

1767
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 16: Team so in my, opinion you should bring Back Murray

1768
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 16: cooper because he was like he was like the silent

1769
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 16: specialist on the. Team you, know he gets people. Open

1770
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 16: everybody was open after they traded for, him AND i

1771
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 16: think you need to go and bring him.

1772
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 3: Back so we got that same, offer all, RIGHT i,

1773
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 3: Mean i'll listen to.

1774
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 2: That they they did Add Joshua, palmer who is a

1775
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:29,680
Speaker 2: more explosive athlete Than Amari, cooper so there's, That and

1776
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,759
Speaker 2: they also Have Leviska chaneau who at six one two twenty,

1777
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: SEVEN i could envision filling the blocking role at receiver

1778
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 2: That Mac collins used to.

1779
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 4: Have, yeah and you're, Right Mary cooper's, gone so is.

1780
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 4: MCCOLLINS i Mean Mac. Collins, yeah, yeah. Mccollands so it

1781
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 4: is going to be a different. Crew but you, know

1782
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 4: we had A Marii cooper for what eight, games seven

1783
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 4: or eight game nine? Games maybe well maybe ten games

1784
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 4: with the with the, Playoffs so, YEAH i, Mean, Mark

1785
01:26:00,439 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 4: BUT i, think AND i really think this wide receiver

1786
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 4: room is better at this point than it was last,

1787
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 4: year certainly because Of Mario cooper was than part of

1788
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 4: the mixture last, year And Amari cooper did make a

1789
01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 4: handful of plays for this team down the. Stretch you

1790
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:16,400
Speaker 4: look at The chiefs game where he came out and

1791
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 4: he had the busted risk and caught the one handed

1792
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 4: ball down the sideline on the first third, down first

1793
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 4: drive of the. Game kind of set the. Tone, however

1794
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:25,799
Speaker 4: The bills didn't win in that game by nine. Points

1795
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 4: i'm With brownie And Brandon bean on this this. Offense

1796
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 4: And i've heard people call in the, show this show

1797
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,760
Speaker 4: and also other shows and, say, yeah The, bills their

1798
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 4: offense just can't finish.

1799
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: GAMES i can't get on board with. THAT i cannot

1800
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: get on board with.

1801
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 4: That Josh allen has walked off the field with the

1802
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 4: lead in the second half of the fourth quarter multitude of,

1803
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 4: times and that meansing playoff. Losses he's done that a

1804
01:26:55,120 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 4: multitude of. Times he's walked off the field with the

1805
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 4: lead in late in the fourth quarter and they can't close.

1806
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:02,800
Speaker 3: It, uh this last game and the defense can't get a,

1807
01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:03,719
Speaker 3: stop they can't.

1808
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 4: Get a stop and even this last, year a fourth

1809
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 4: down spot that most people think it and they're changing

1810
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 4: the technology because of. This, again so they got they

1811
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 4: got backstabbed by a bad spot on a fourth down

1812
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,679
Speaker 4: call and a third down.

1813
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: Call so you, know and SO i don't. KNOW i

1814
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. This you need. It

1815
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: this offense is not you know it just they don't

1816
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 1: need to revamp it in any, way shape or.

1817
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,640
Speaker 3: Form you Keep you keep your offense the way it.

1818
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 2: Is you reduce your points allowed by six seven points a,

1819
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,800
Speaker 2: game even five points a game builds A Super bowl

1820
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 2: champions as simple as.

1821
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 3: That change THAT a thirteen and four with the nineteenth

1822
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 3: ranked defense in terms of what points? Allowed what was

1823
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:53,599
Speaker 3: the points?

1824
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: Allowed we were.

1825
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 3: Seventeenth hold on in any event points. Allowed, yeah we

1826
01:27:58,960 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: got to go to.

1827
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 2: Break but you reduce your points allowed and keep your,

1828
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 2: offense keep it.

1829
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 3: On that gets you over the. Hump in my.

1830
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 1: Estimation, yeah they were thirty first in points per. Game, No,

1831
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: no that's. Differential that's a point. Differential point Different.

1832
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 2: Gotta take a, Break steve AND i to wrap it up.

1833
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 2: Here we'll get those numbers when we come. Back all,

1834
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 2: right final segment here On One Bill's, Live Chris brown

1835
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 2: see tasker with. You The bills finished eleventh in points

1836
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 2: allowed last, year twenty one point six points per. Game

1837
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 2: you shave that down with defensive improvements to eighteen points a.

1838
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,680
Speaker 2: Game hack a field goal off the. Average, okay you

1839
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 2: give up a field goal less per. GAME i think

1840
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 2: you give yourself an excellent chance to win The Super

1841
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 2: bowl with your offense performing as it. DOES i, Mean

1842
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 2: philadelphia won The Super bowl last. Year they were second

1843
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 2: in the league in points, allowed seventeen point eight points a.

1844
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 2: Game bills are about a field goal away from.

1845
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: That, yeah hack that.

1846
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 3: Off you're right, there.

1847
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 4: You're and over the course eighteen, games you're talking about

1848
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 4: like a field goal a, game one stop a game

1849
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 4: fifty four. Points, yes so fifty. Points so that's it's

1850
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 4: not that. Far, offensively they're right at the end of.

1851
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 4: It they're right at the. TOP i, mean they're nobody

1852
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 4: scored more points than they did In raider, season, postseason all.

1853
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 4: That so obviously they're very good football team and they're

1854
01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,520
Speaker 4: going to be very good again this. Year and you're

1855
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 4: trying to split hairs is to find just a little

1856
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 4: bit more of an, Edge AND i think that's what this,

1857
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:44,680
Speaker 4: is this whole exercise is.

1858
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: About that's.

1859
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,799
Speaker 2: Right we'll do more to dice up this draft, class

1860
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,400
Speaker 2: find its strengths and where it's gonna held.

1861
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 3: Most When we have another edition. Here if one bills live,

1862
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 3: tomorrow we'll see.

1863
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 1: It one