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Speaker 1: floor anymore because you're not quite as hungry. You're willing

428
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Speaker 1: to wait for next meal, or you're willing to wait

429
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Speaker 1: for Man, maybe maybe someone will bring me something on

430
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Speaker 1: a plate. I mean, that's nasty. It's on the floor

431
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Speaker 1: right now. You don't really last in programs like Georgia

432
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Speaker 1: a long time if you don't have that cost. Too

433
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Speaker 1: many of the other ones do have it. And that's organizationally,

434
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Speaker 1: that's staff. That's players eating off the floor. Every single

435
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: one of them will do it. Every single one of

436
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 1: them lead off the floor. There. Georgia's number one program

437
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: in the country right now, and they got the number

438
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: two right over there in the SEC West. I see,

439
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: the chat is mad. Jesse tells me, the chat is

440
00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: mad that there's no LSU or Tennessee. This is the difference,

441
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Speaker 1: guys in a top ten team and a top ten

442
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Speaker 1: program LSU and Tennessee are not top ten programs right now.

443
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Speaker 1: They last year had good teams, you got to stack

444
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: a couple of more years on top of each other.

445
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: They had recent coaching changes there, and unlike USC, which

446
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Speaker 1: also had a recent coaching change, I didn't think they

447
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: fit the exception to the rule. I'm gonna do the

448
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: Tennessee Blue Tracker later in the show. But also, if

449
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: you'll notice, look at the twenty twenty three college Football

450
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: Playoff title odds on the screen here. If you're listening

451
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,400
Speaker 1: on podcasts, A bunch of the programs I just mentioned

452
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: are here as a team in the odds to win

453
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three title. But LSU is up there

454
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Speaker 1: like you guys just got mad about in the chat,

455
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Speaker 1: and LSU is one, two, three fourth, so they're sixth.

456
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: That got the sixth highest odds to win the title.

457
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Speaker 1: Florida State eighth, Texas ninth, Tennessee eleventh, Oregon thirteenth. You

458
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: get that done, and all of a sudden, we have

459
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Speaker 1: a different conversation. You even stay in that conversation about

460
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Speaker 1: the college football playoff for the national title. And yes, yes,

461
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Speaker 1: obviously this is a two or three year rolling snapshot.

462
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 1: I can change pretty substantially. But that's what I think.

463
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: You know, we all have opinions on this, and I'm

464
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Speaker 1: sure the comment section will be lit up about it,

465
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Speaker 1: but no one's Look, I love what Tennessee did last year,

466
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Speaker 1: but you're not coming to me quite yet and saying no, no, no,

467
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Speaker 1: no no, we demand to be listed as a top

468
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Speaker 1: ten program. Not quite yet. Close, give me one more

469
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: good year and then you're in there. Not quite yet though.

470
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Speaker 1: Oh you know what. By the way, that's the end

471
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Speaker 1: of that segment. By the way, before we get too

472
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Speaker 1: deep in the show, I got to show you guys something.

473
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Speaker 1: If you're listening on podcasts, I'll do my best to

474
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Speaker 1: to describe what I'm showing you before I show you.

475
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Speaker 1: We have a little tradition on Sundays that we just

476
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Speaker 1: restarted today. There is a local restaurant that we order

477
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Speaker 1: as a staff from, and it's a Mediterranean restaurant, and

478
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Speaker 1: I you know, I love the Mediterranean dishes, but I

479
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Speaker 1: am also ten years old. If you open me up,

480
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: there's just a ten year old in there. It's never

481
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Speaker 1: gonna change. I love grilled cheese. Don't care if you

482
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Speaker 1: pay me a trillion dollars a year. I am eating

483
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Speaker 1: grilled cheese, a lot of it, and I don't really

484
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Speaker 1: care what kind of restaurant you are. Could be a Talian,

485
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Speaker 1: it could be Chinese, it could be Mediterranean. If you

486
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Speaker 1: put grilled cheese on your menu, kids menu, adult menu,

487
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Speaker 1: Mediterranean Italian, don't care. I'm ordering it, and I ordered

488
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Speaker 1: it today from what right now will still remain a

489
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Speaker 1: nameless local Mediterranean outfit. And they sent me this. This

490
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: right here is many things, but it is not a

491
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Speaker 1: grilled cheese sandwich. In fact, there's no bread. They took cheese.

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Speaker 1: They put it in a peda, a little trash peda

493
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Speaker 1: that I think they pulled out of a bend somewhere,

494
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Speaker 1: And they sent me this, making the mistake and thinking

495
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Speaker 1: that since someone ordered off kids menu, it must be

496
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Speaker 1: a child and we just send them whatever and they'll

497
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Speaker 1: eat it. I am not a child. I'm a very

498
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Speaker 1: very mad, semi adult. And so I'm not naming the

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Speaker 1: restaurant stretch with the T. I'm not naming the local

500
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Speaker 1: chain Mediterranean restaurant. But if this happens again, we use

501
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Speaker 1: this platform for good. In a lot of cases, we

502
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Speaker 1: can weaponize it, and I will. I got cheese on

503
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Speaker 1: my fingers. Okay, let's move on. We did this the

504
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Speaker 1: other night and he got so much good response that

505
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Speaker 1: and I didn't list all the coaches that I wanted

506
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Speaker 1: to that I wanted to go ahead and and further

507
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: this tonight. The head coaches that have failed that surprised

508
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Speaker 1: you the most over the last let's call it ten

509
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Speaker 1: or fifteen years. Who are they? The other night I

510
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: mentioned Scott Frost, for example, is a really popular name.

511
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Speaker 1: I put this out on Twitter earlier today and a

512
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: lot of you gave me some names that I agree with.

513
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Speaker 1: So I wanted to roll with this a little bit

514
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Speaker 1: deeper tonight. Tom Herman at Texas. You know, remember when

515
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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer was still at Ohio State, Tom Herman was there.

516
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Speaker 1: There were a lot of folks in college football that

517
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Speaker 1: thought Tom Herman was actually the engine that made a

518
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Speaker 1: lot of that run up there. Now, the closer you

519
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Speaker 1: get to the Ohio State program, the more opinions people

520
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: will have about that. I'm talking broad strokes. If you

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Speaker 1: just took the general opinion of quote unquote college football insiders,

522
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of folks thought. I always heard that.

523
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Speaker 1: And so when he goes to Texas. I had two thoughts.

524
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Speaker 1: Number one, oh, that's not good for Ohio state. Number

525
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 1: two great for Texas. Great for Texas. I thought they

526
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: would lead the way and be innovators offensively. And he

527
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Speaker 1: had four winning seasons there, top twenty five finisher three times,

528
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Speaker 1: but they did not win a Big twelve title. They

529
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Speaker 1: had eight losses to unranked teams. Not very good. He

530
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: was thirty two and eighteen overall. But more so than

531
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Speaker 1: anything that's you know, listed on his Wikipedia page, Tom

532
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: Herman didn't have the it factor that it takes to

533
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Speaker 1: succeed at Texas, and frankly, I don't know if Sark

534
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: does either. Now I pull for him, but I don't

535
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Speaker 1: know that Sark does either. Nick Saban's got it, Kirby

536
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: Smart's got it. Those two could walk in there and

537
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: they would have what it takes to succeed there. It's

538
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: basically having the ability and the willingness and the gravitized

539
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: and you can insert a few more adjutives to walk

540
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: in a room full of people worth way more than you,

541
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Speaker 1: who were way older than you, who have been there

542
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: longer than you and will be there long after you,

543
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: who think they have forgotten more about Texas than you'll

544
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: ever know. And you got to look them in the

545
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: eye and say, my way is the right way. Your

546
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 1: way is the wrong way. You hired me for a reason.

547
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: Sit down, shut up, Let me do my job, and

548
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: then you want respect for me. The results that I deliver,

549
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: that's where the respect will come. That's where the return

550
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: on the investment will come. Most folks can't do it.

551
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: Tom Herman couldn't do it. It does not take that to

552
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: succeed at every program. Texas is unique. It's a different

553
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: animal and it took that. And he didn't have that.

554
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: Charlie Strong didn't have it. Sark. The jury is still

555
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: out on Steve sarkisian there right now. That's why it's

556
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: about so much more than just organizational structure and game

557
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: day play calling and offensive design. Those things are important,

558
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,239
Speaker 1: but that is factor matters at Texas a lot more

559
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: than most places. What about Will mush Champ at South

560
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: Carolina not Florida. See a lot of you said, oh,

561
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Speaker 1: I'm surprised Will Muschamp failed at Florida. I was more

562
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: surprised that it flopped at South Carolina. And I remember

563
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: this because I was doing radio at the time. I

564
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: remember how everyone would call in when South Carolina hired

565
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: him and say, why are they hiring a failure? He's

566
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Speaker 1: a proven failure, blah blah blah, basically insinuating that what

567
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: someone has been is what they automatically just always will be.

568
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Speaker 1: And I don't believe that. I still don't believe that.

569
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Speaker 1: It turns out that the South Carolina Will mush Champ

570
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: era did not go much better than the Florida era.

571
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: I just thought there would be lessons learned and applied.

572
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: And the thing about failing is when you have failed

573
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: and you get another shot, you have the least incentive

574
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Speaker 1: possible to do it the same way you had done it.

575
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Speaker 1: So I didn't know what way will Muschamp was going

576
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: to do it, but I didn't think he would try

577
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Speaker 1: and duplicate a lot of what he did at Florida. Well,

578
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: he was twenty eight and thirty and five s reasons.

579
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: They were fourth or worst in the East four out

580
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Speaker 1: of those five seasons. So while I generally still believe

581
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Speaker 1: in the principles that I just spoke and I adhere

582
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Speaker 1: to them, Will must Champ ended up failing for some

583
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Speaker 1: of the same reasons at South Carolina and they ended

584
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Speaker 1: up firing him for some of the same reasons that

585
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Speaker 1: Florida fired him for. This next one, I got a

586
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: lot of and it was Justin Fuente at Virginia Tech.

587
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: He had killed it at Memphis. He had gone nineteen

588
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: and six at Memphis his final two years before they

589
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: hired him in Blacksburg, and his first year was his

590
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Speaker 1: best year. Jesse, how how many games did they win?

591
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Speaker 1: Ten games or something like that. They were a double

592
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Speaker 1: digit win team his first year there. So you think

593
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: they're off to the races. Must Champ. I think either

594
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: the first or second year had his best season at

595
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: South Carolina nine wins. I think they're off to the races.

596
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: Progress is not linear, It's not It does not always

597
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: just steadily climb the mountain. Five wins, seven wins, nine wins.

598
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: That's all the ways, the way it happened. Sometimes sometimes

599
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: that window closes on your fingers a lot faster than

600
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: you think. And for Justin Flinte, he was forty three

601
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: and thirty one across six seasons there. He had forty guys.

602
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: They lost to the portal, and that's before the portal

603
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: was really the cool thing to do. That includes Hendon

604
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: Hooker by the way, So Tennessee folks, you want to

605
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: send a thank you card, send it up to justin

606
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: Flinte wherever he is right now, send it to Virginia Tech.

607
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: The ACC was wide open. It still kind of is Clemson.

608
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: Grant you Clemson, but behind Clemson, the conference has just

609
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: been wide open. And this is one of many stories

610
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: that you can tell your kids one day about someone

611
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: in a program that had an opportunity to do big

612
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: things and there was just a wide open vacuum and

613
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: they couldn't fill it. And while they were failing there

614
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: so had been Florida State, So too had been Miami.

615
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: So two had been their neighbor in state Virginia. Virtually

616
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: everyone in the Carolina is outside of Clemson. So the

617
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: last one I'm not surprised by. I threw this last

618
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 1: one in because a lot of you guys mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: This one didn't surprise me. Kevin Sumlin at Arizona, you

620
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: were surprised that he failed there. Why. I thought that

621
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: he should have taken a year off, and he didn't.

622
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: He got fired at Texas A and M, and then

623
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: he went right to Arizona. And I looked at it

624
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: and I thought there was very little chance he was

625
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: going to succeed. They went five and seven, four and eight,

626
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: and then he was zero to five his first five

627
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: games of the season, he got fired nine and twenty. Overall,

628
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: he lost his final twelve games. They got drug by

629
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: Arizona State seventy to seven in the final matchup, most

630
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: points allowed in the history of that series. I just

631
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: think he needed time away. I think Mark Rick I

632
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: think the same thing about him when he went from

633
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: Georgia to Miami. Immediately, Sumblan goes from A and M

634
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: to Arizona. Immediately, you've got buyout money. And I'm not

635
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: saying it's about the money, but just take a breath,

636
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,479
Speaker 1: Take a breath. And as I told you guys last week,

637
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: and I'll always say, no one stock decreases when they

638
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: take a year off and they go do TV or

639
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: something like that. No one stock decreases. It only decreases

640
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: when you lose. And he'd put himself in a pretty

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Speaker 1: untenable position there and it was not made any better

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Speaker 1: because he was there. But that didn't surprise me. Also,

643
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Speaker 1: I got a lot of Rich Rodriguez at Michigan. That

644
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Speaker 1: didn't surprise me because he didn't have organizational buy in.

645
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Speaker 1: Too many people up there did not want him, so

646
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Speaker 1: I don't think he was ever set up to succeed.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to know in an alternate universe. I just

648
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Speaker 1: love to see a world where he Rich Rodriguez was

649
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Speaker 1: to West Virginia what Kirk Ference has been at Iowa.

650
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: He just stays there for a couple of decades. What

651
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Speaker 1: would West Virginia have been. Because they've never gotten back

652
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: and Rich Rodriguez has never gotten back. They were made

653
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654
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: they thing. It was a Rich Rodriguez thing. He had

655
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Speaker 1: the Alabama job for fifteen minutes and then backed out

656
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Speaker 1: of it, and a guy named Nick Saban takes it instead.

657
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,880
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658
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,560
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659
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: question why in the world they hire him. But that's

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Speaker 1: I was not surprised by that either. So a lot

662
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Speaker 1: Right after I take a sip from the chalice. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm tied for like two hundred and fiftieth and absolutely

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Speaker 1: So I'm keeping an eye on it and I wish

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Speaker 1: you guys the best of luck. You're gonna need it. Remember,

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Speaker 1: if you're here, let's see, let me do some quick math.

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Speaker 1: A quarter of you have liked this video right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't accept that we're better than that. I'm better

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Speaker 1: you in advance. Position battles are happening all over the country.

709
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Speaker 1: And yeah, we could talk about quarterbacks, and we do

710
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Speaker 1: a lot, but let's get past the quarterback situation for

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Speaker 1: just a second. I got to talk to you about

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Speaker 1: several position battles. Chris Hummer has a great feature on

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Speaker 1: twenty four to seven sports dot com that goes even

714
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Speaker 1: deeper than this, and by deeper, I just mean it.

715
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: It goes to more programs. But George's corner situation, if

716
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: you look at it, you could be of the camp,

717
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: the more casual camp. It says, uh oh they lost

718
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: keiey Ringo questions questions, Well, they do have questions. I

719
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: guess George's questions are better than a lot of your answers.

720
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Speaker 1: So I mean Dalen Everett, Nyland Green, Julian Humphrey, AJ Harris.

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Speaker 1: What do they all have in common? Well, they're fighting

722
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: for that starting job and they were all top one

723
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Speaker 1: hundred recruits. I think three out of the four were

724
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: five stars. They are loaded at pretty much every position.

725
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Speaker 1: But this is important. This is one of those position

726
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: battles to watch. Another one is at Notre Dame. I'm

727
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: not even gonna say wide receivers. I'm just gonna say

728
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Speaker 1: pass catchers. In generals. Michael Mayer, the tight end, not

729
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: so shockingly, was their leading receiver last year. Now, remember

730
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Speaker 1: you have to combine all of this with the fact

731
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Speaker 1: that they went and got Sam Hartman out of the

732
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Speaker 1: transfer portal at Wake Forest. He could blow up there

733
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Speaker 1: this year. He could make Notre Dame a playoff team

734
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Speaker 1: this year. And so I can listen to you talk

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Speaker 1: about how overrated they are for a month instead of

736
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: just a week. Hooray for us all. Who is he

737
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Speaker 1: throwing the ball to? Because last year they do not

738
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Speaker 1: return a single guy that had more than three hundred

739
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: and sixty one yards receiving last year, So they can

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00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: do a lot better. I think they've got the quarterback

741
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: to do a lot better. Caleb Smith is a Virginia

742
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: Tech transfer. We're keeping an eye on him. Jayden Thomas

743
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: is a recher at sophomore. They expect big things from him.

744
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: Deon Colsey's in that freshman class, really really good and

745
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: over overlooked. It's not overrated and overlooked recruiting class, and

746
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: why is it overlooked? Isn't this ironic? Don't you think

747
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: a lot of the crowd that comes at me and

748
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: says star rankings are overrated are proceeding to overlook Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame's recruiting class because they've just got a bunch of

750
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 1: four stars and no five stars. Things that make you

751
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: go there are two sides to every box cars. Me

752
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: Ma would say, well, the side of the box car

753
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Speaker 1: I want you to pay attention to with Notre Dame

754
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Speaker 1: is those are some really good players. You don't have

755
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Speaker 1: to have five stars next to your name to be

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Speaker 1: a dominant Saturday player. I think history teaches us that

757
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: every single year. Deon Colsey, it's not an exclusive list.

758
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Speaker 1: The I'm just naming him as an example, is going

759
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: to be given an opportunity to be an impact player

760
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: this year, and unlike last year, it's not going to

761
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Speaker 1: be a rarity. I think to see Notre Dame able

762
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: to complete a forward pass. Related note, I saw a

763
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Speaker 1: friend of the program, Brad Powers, Notre Dame fan. I

764
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:54,439
Speaker 1: think he was retweeting. I think some Drew Pine highlight video,

765
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: and trust me, I use that term loosely. It's some

766
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: of the worst quarterback play you will have seen at

767
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: the FBS level. It was shocking that that was happening

768
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Speaker 1: at Notre Dame and the fact they won nine games

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Speaker 1: last year. I don't care who they were playing. I

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Speaker 1: don't care if they played Hardaway Shaw North Side in

771
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Speaker 1: Harris County consecutive weeks. Some of the quarterback play they

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Speaker 1: were getting last year was atrocious. So welcome to South

773
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Speaker 1: Ben Sam Hartman, What about Oklahoma? Now we can talk

774
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: about wide receivers Oklahoma. Think about a two year rolling

775
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: period here, so famously, at least on this show. Famously

776
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: at this point, Oklahoma saw four of their top five

777
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Speaker 1: pass catchers leave when Lincoln Riley left Norman. Now after

778
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season, they're losing their top two

779
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Speaker 1: pass catchers from last year's team, So they've lost a

780
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Speaker 1: lot of talent in the receiver and pass catching department.

781
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: Jalil Farouk for sixty six last year. Gonn to count

782
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: on him. Drake Stoops three to ninety three last year,

783
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: gonna count on him. Need both of those numbers to

784
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: be way higher. Who's the alpha got some younger guys,

785
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: got some guys that haven't necessarily flourished yet that you

786
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: could look at there. And that's what spring is for us,

787
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: what God invented spring for. Remember Dylan Gabriel's quarterback there.

788
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: But they've got Jackson Arnold who's come in. So we'll

789
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: see who ends up playing the lion's share of the minutes,

790
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: not just to start the season, but later in the

791
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: season too. But I think I think a lot of

792
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: aspects of this program are going to be a lot

793
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 1: better this year than they were last year. But I

794
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: also think that for them to maximize their potential, Look,

795
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: Brent Vinnables is a defensive guy. Their defense was pretty

796
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: bad last year. That is where his attention's got to be.

797
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: Jeff Levy gotta get it done, Gotta find that alpha

798
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: receiver and then let everything in that room work off

799
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: of that their defense, not to mention wide receivers. Just

800
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: to go back to that defensive struggle. Last year, they

801
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: gave up thirty points per game. I do appreciate they

802
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: made it nice and neat, not thirty point three thirty

803
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: points per game. In FBS, they were one hundred and

804
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: sixth in rush yards per game allowed. They were one

805
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: hundred and eighteenth in passyards per game. They were one

806
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty second in total yards per game. That's

807
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: all defensive, that's not offensive. So a lot of work

808
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: needed on both sides. We're going to talk, I think

809
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: a little bit later about a true freshman that could

810
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: impact that. I want to talk about LSU's corners for

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00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: just a second. The entire room, the entire cornerback room

812
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: pretty much has been built through the portal. Denver Harris,

813
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: former five star, came in there from Texas A and

814
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: m Deuce Chestnut is a guy from Syracuse that I

815
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Speaker 1: think is probably being a little bit overlooked right now.

816
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: He's going to have a solid chance to start for them. JK.

817
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: Johnson was a former Ohio State kid, played some minutes

818
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: up there as I Alexander FCS All American from Southeast Louisiana.

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Speaker 1: Number five corner in the portal, by the way, So

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00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: Matt House has got some talent in that room. They

821
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Speaker 1: were fortieth in pass defense last year, so not the

822
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: worst in the world, but sir, not the LSU standard either.

823
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they understand what an elite secondary looks like

824
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: down there. Can you put that together through the portal. Well,

825
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: it stands the reason logically, at least you can find

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00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: a lot of good players in there. But is the

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Speaker 1: cohesion going to happen? Probably not in spring, But we

828
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Speaker 1: don't have to play a football game at the end

829
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Speaker 1: of spring. We will see them eventually, tee it up

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00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: in Orlando in another great neutral site game against Florida State.

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Speaker 1: We will see it by that point. And by that

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00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: point I think LSU will we'll probably have a pretty

833
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: decent secondary. Now I use decent as the floor. What

834
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: you want is a very good to great secondary. And

835
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: at least they've put themselves in position. They identified the

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00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: position of need, and they went out and they shopped

837
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Speaker 1: and they got a lot of pieces. And remember, although

838
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: they've already gotten a ton of pieces, we have not

839
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: entered this post spring period yet. So there is another

840
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: shopping period, if you will, in the portal post spring.

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Speaker 1: They're watching us in Paul's Valley, Oklahoma. They're watching us

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Speaker 1: in Springville, Utah, Central Point, Oregon. Thank you guys so

843
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: so much for being tuned in. And if you're watching live,

844
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate that as well. There you go. I just

845
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: said something in the live chat to prove we're live.

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Speaker 1: The mood Tracker's back. Welcome back mood Tracker. The mood

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Speaker 1: and everyone just loves hearing what everyone else thinks about

852
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: their team. And so we pull no punches on this.

853
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: If people are unhappy, we share that they are unhappy.

854
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: But we pride ourselves on having a pretty in the

855
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: weeds on the ground level feel towards fan bases what

856
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: they're really feeling, not what people are just saying from

857
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: a thousand miles away. So Tennessee's mood Tracker, where are

858
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: they at right now? This is one of the easiest

859
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 1: to do. Let me tell you two things that I'd

860
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: love to be good at and golf. I've always been

861
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: fascinated by both of them, but I don't surf, and

862
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: I really don't golf. Great at putt putt, but really

863
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: don't golf and don't surf. And the reason is very simple.

864
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: It takes discipline. You never really master either one of them.

865
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: You never beat surfing, you never beat golf. But it

866
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: takes a long time to even be halfway decent at him,

867
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: and I'm not willing to suck at him. So I

868
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 1: have not taken up surfing, and I've really not taken

869
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: up golfing. But Tennessee fans have taken up surfing in

870
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: a way, and for a long time they have tried

871
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: to get up on the wave that they, once upon

872
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: a time were on. They knew how to surf, at

873
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: least in the sec they knew how to be on

874
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: the top wave of college football. And then they fell

875
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: and their board hit him in the head, and they

876
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: were in the wilderness for a long long time, and

877
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: there was some brief, faint radio transmissions from out there

878
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: in the E three, and he thought, it's Tennessee. Now,

879
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: Tennessee's not back. Nevermind, Butcher, no, no, there's a trash

880
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: can on the sideline, third down for what. So it

881
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: was failure after failure after failure. Derek Dooley's wearing what

882
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: color pants, And all of a sudden they beat Alabama

883
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: last year, and all of a sudden the dam broke,

884
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: and here comes the wave, and the mood around Tennessee

885
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: right now is ride the wave as long as we

886
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 1: possibly can. And they have earned it. That fan base

887
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: has earned it. They deserve it. It took a long

888
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: time to get up on that board. But you see,

889
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: there have been other programs out there that were in

890
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: the wilderness for a little while, and they'll all tell

891
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: you once you finally get back up there, that struggle.

892
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: It just makes you appreciate the hear and out. It

893
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: makes you appreciate the success a little bit more. College

894
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: aged Tennessee fans or Tennessee current students, how should I

895
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: explain this? They don't know their place in college football's history.

896
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: They've been institutionalized. Okay, they've been in this little self

897
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: made college football prison where you're hoping to get to

898
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: the Gator Bowl and you fantasize about what it would

899
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: be like to win ten games, and that is not Tennessee. Okay,

900
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: that's been Tennessee in your lifetime. Tennessee is supposed to

901
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: compete for a national championship. That's where they're supposed to be.

902
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: That's the conversation they're supposed to be in. Now, you

903
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 1: got institutionalized because you watch a bunch of very very

904
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: subpar excuses for Tennessee football be trotted out in front

905
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: of you on Saturdays in the fall, and so you

906
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: came to be convinced, and a lot of people tried,

907
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: to their part to convince you that Tennessee can't be

908
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: that anymore. Remember that conversation. The game has just changed.

909
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: Tennessee can't recruit well enough. I remember when we had

910
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: Josh Hippel on the show last year and he didn't

911
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: let me get the sentence out of my mouth, and

912
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't even making it my argument. I started to

913
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: make that whole Tennessee can't recruit well enough point. He said,

914
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: do you see my face? That's how disgusting that sounds

915
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: to me. And he's right. A lot of that was

916
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: just fodder. The fact is their results had nothing to

917
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: do with the system being stacked against them. The results

918
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the sport leaving them behind.

919
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: They just made terrible hires. They's made poor decision making

920
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: and they suffered the consequences. Now they made a good

921
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: hire and they are also benefiting from the plus consequences

922
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: of that. Now you got to ride the wave. You're

923
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: experiencing what I call the red bull effect. At Tennessee

924
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: right now, it's the sugar high. It is what you

925
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: get for a little while. There is a finite amount

926
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: of that energy and that sugar high and that red

927
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: Bull effect before you've got to put together something that

928
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: is sustainable. That's what we can't know yet. We know

929
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: Tennessee looked really good last year. What we can't know

930
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: is how sustainable is this. Are we going to look

931
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty six and say that, man, that

932
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: one blip ear that made us feel like they were

933
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: on their way, but then they fell off fo Or

934
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: are we going to be saying, look at Tennessee, man,

935
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: they're here every year. Now. What started in twenty twenty

936
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: one and twenty twenty two has become a consistent perennial

937
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: powerhouse program. I don't know which one it's going to be.

938
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: Certainly you can have your guests, as can I, but

939
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: defense has to be better. They were what eighty fifth

940
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: last year in total yards given up? They were forty

941
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: fourth in points per game. I think probably a little

942
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: bit overlooked has been the fact that they're recruiting better

943
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: defensive personnel. They had the number nine class in the

944
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: country in recruiting in twenty twenty three. They landed a

945
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: five star quarterback in twenty twenty three, first top ten

946
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: class since twenty fifteen. They had the most wins last

947
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: year since two thousand and one. They led FBS in

948
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: points per game and yards per game offensively, so there

949
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: is no more guessing what Tennessee football is. They are

950
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: a contender. They are the fourth highest odds to win

951
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: the national championship from the SEC this upcoming year. That

952
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: probably surprises some people to see LSU listed ahead of them.

953
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: It shouldn't. That has everything to do with the quarterback position. Now,

954
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: speaking of the quarterback position, here's where my head would

955
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: be fall as a Tennessee fan. I'd be looking at

956
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,879
Speaker 1: these Mott drafts right now. Not that these are, you know,

957
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: from God's lip to your ears by any stretch, but

958
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: look at the mock draft culture. Look at the mock

959
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: draft society right now trying to tell you that Hendon

960
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: Hooker may be nothing more than a third or fourth

961
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: or fifth round pick. If they're right. Let's just entertain

962
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: this for a second, because this is what I would

963
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: feel if I was a Tennessee fan. If they're right,

964
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: that means Josh Hipel just own college football with a

965
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: player that was not a first round caliber product. What

966
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: happens when he gets one would be my follow up.

967
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: We had guys like Jalen Hyatt who wasn't even listed

968
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: as your number one. Cedric Tillman was supposed to be

969
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: the number one and he's hurt. And Jalen Hyatt just

970
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 1: destroys Alabama and I mean the only thing that stopped

971
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: him was the buzzer because he would have just gone

972
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: off and gone off and gone off all night if

973
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: they allowed him to. My point is there will be

974
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: people who look at Hindon Hooker leaving and say uh oh.

975
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: And there will be people who look at the Jalen

976
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 1: Hyatts of the world leaving and say uh oh. My question,

977
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: or my follow up would be, were you touting them

978
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: last year? Hendon Hooker? Maybe so? Were you? Were you

979
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: guys nationally touting Jalen Hyatt? Are you touting Squirrel White now?

980
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 1: Cause you will be talking about him a lot come fall.

981
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: This offense is going to make star offensive players every year.

982
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: And so whether it's Joe Milton this year and you

983
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: saw what he did against Clemson in the ball game,

984
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: look like a totally different Joe Milton, whether it's him,

985
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: whether it's Nico im Aliava starting as a true freshman

986
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 1: offense is not going to be the reason they're losing games.

987
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 1: I know if I'm a Tennessee fan, I know that,

988
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: so I can at least ta comfort in that. Let's

989
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: move on. I got another question about a program that frankly,

990
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: we don't talk a lot about on the show, and

991
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: I will tell you why in just a second. We

992
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: don't talk a lot about Wisconsin. Why because our numbers

993
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: say we shouldn't, but Gabe wants us to. Gabe asked

994
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: me how excited should I be as a Badger's fan

995
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: right now from Madison, Wisconsin? Very excited? To the point, Gabe,

996
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: where I think this is relevant to talk about in

997
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: a sphere beyond just Wisconsin fans. You paying attention into

998
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: Big ten Better be, better be It's an interesting thing

999
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: about Wisconsin. It takes nuance and maturity to talk about

1000
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: Wisconsin football. You got one crowd out there that because

1001
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: they haven't cracked the playoff field, just yells, oh, they suck,

1002
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: Wisconsin sucks. This program has ten double digit wins this millennium.

1003
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: They don't suck. And then you got the other crowd

1004
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: that says, yeah, that's proof that they're an elite program,

1005
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: pump the brakes. They're not elite. They don't suck. They've

1006
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: just been pretty solid. That's what Wisconsin has been. Not

1007
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: able to break through into the top tier by any stretch.

1008
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: They're not in Tier five by any stretch. Just a good,

1009
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: solid program that takes nuance and maturity. And congratulations to

1010
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: us for having that conversation. But changes were needed and

1011
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: they fired Paul christ last year. Surprised a lot of people,

1012
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: but they fired him. That wasn't the biggest surprise. The

1013
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: biggest s prize is they landed Luke Fickle. That was

1014
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: the biggest surprise, and he brought in Phil Longo as

1015
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator. I had a DM from one of

1016
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: our longtime viewers and it was responding to just some

1017
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: video from Wisconsin spring practice, and I think it was

1018
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: Nick Evers, who may not even start at quarterback for him.

1019
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: He's one transferred Oklahoma Tanner Mordechai transferred from SMU and

1020
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: he maybe the starter up there. But it was just

1021
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: video of a deep sideline pass, just a simple go route,

1022
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 1: contested ball, receiver comes down with it, and Wisconsin fans.

1023
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: That's enough to get him excited. And one guy DM

1024
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: me and said, Josh, I'm spooked. It's like someone pimped

1025
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: my ride and I'm just waiting for the taxes to hit.

1026
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: That was from Nathan. They don't know how to handle

1027
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: good offense up there. They don't know how to handle

1028
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: explosive offense. Let me rephrase that. They know how to

1029
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: handle running the ball, but they don't know how to

1030
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: handle explosivity in the passing game. They're gonna try it

1031
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: or die trying. Because Phil Longo, he understands what he inherited.

1032
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: I've listened to him talk. He says, it'd be stupid

1033
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: for me not to utilize the run game. But but

1034
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: there are certain principles we believe in and we're not

1035
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: gonna abandon them. And they're gonna throw the ball at

1036
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: Wisconsin in this economy. Wow. And so they're gonna do

1037
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: that this year. They got some transfer help there. I

1038
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: don't know if they're done in the portal this cycle either.

1039
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: But the media rights theory, I keep going back through

1040
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: this with Wisconsin. I'm a believer in this. The media

1041
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: rights theory is simply this. There's this ball that was

1042
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: good enough up until recently in the Big Ten for

1043
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: non Tier one programs. So Ohio State's got to be elite.

1044
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: Michigan they've got to try to be elite, Penn State

1045
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: they got to try and be elite. Wisconsin didn't have

1046
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 1: to try to be elite. Nebraska, Iowa, they didn't have

1047
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: to try to be elite. They could tell you they were,

1048
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: They could pretend, but no one was going to be

1049
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: mad in the league office or at Fox or at ESPN, etc.

1050
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: If Wisconsin was an elite, it's not good enough anymore

1051
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: because they're paying you in the billions now, And with

1052
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: all due respect, you got to give me more than

1053
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Michigan and Penn State if I'm paying

1054
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: you that much money. I think Wisconsin knew that, and

1055
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: I think that got disseminated very clearly in Lincoln, Nebraska

1056
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: as well. And so when it came time to make decisions,

1057
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: they didn't hesitate. Scott Frost gone, Paul christ gone, not

1058
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: just that, Who do they bring in? Luke Fickle was

1059
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: the hottest G five coaching commodity in America. There were

1060
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: ten pro that I thought could land him before Wisconsin

1061
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: and Wisconsin got him and they were willing to do

1062
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 1: what it took to get him. And Dido with Matt

1063
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: Ruhle Matt rule once upon a time, blew it up

1064
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: at Baylory, he goes to the NFL, it doesn't work out.

1065
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: Nebraska landed him. Nebraska. Those are two Big Ten programs

1066
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: that have not exactly lit up the front page figuratively

1067
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: of course, and the college football world and now all

1068
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden. The media rights theory, in my opinion,

1069
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 1: is simply with more money up, there is more pressure

1070
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: to spend at a high level, to invest at a

1071
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: high level, and to not accept anything less than a

1072
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: high level. And this also part two of that theory

1073
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: is why I think changes may be on the horizon

1074
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: at Iowa. What has been good enough there, I just

1075
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: don't think we'll be considered good enough for very much longer.

1076
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: That's a good thing for the conference. It can be

1077
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: uncomfortable in the meantime, but it's a good thing for

1078
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: the conference. And yes, absolutely, if I'm a Wisconsin fan,

1079
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: absolutely you should be excited. All right, I did want

1080
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: to talk to you about some some names that I

1081
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: need you to know. Oh, I needed to see you

1082
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: know we do the show live right now. But also

1083
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: you know I am a stormchaser and we have multiple

1084
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: live tornado warnings in central Alabama. Okay, we're good. I'm

1085
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: just making sure that no one that I love is

1086
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: an immediate danger. So we are back to our regularly

1087
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: scheduled programming. Okay, got some true freshmen that I want

1088
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: to list for you. I gave you a few names

1089
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: the other night. I'm not done. I got to give

1090
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: you four more. At Dante Moore. I did not even

1091
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: list him the other night. Five star quarterback at UCLA.

1092
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: Let me say that again slowly for those of you

1093
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: who don't follow recruiting. UCLA landed a five star quarterback,

1094
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: not out of the portal, out of high school, and

1095
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: they paid to get him, and it's legal. He was

1096
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: at Oregon, he's committed to Orgon and then all of

1097
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,479
Speaker 1: a sudden he wasn't and he flipped the UCLA. He's

1098
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: the number three quarterback overall, number four overall player in

1099
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: the country, six two and a half to ten, could

1100
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: immediately start for them. I think Colin Schlee, the one

1101
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: of many defectors from Kent State, is who he will

1102
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: compete against. So Chip Kelly is in a pretty good position.

1103
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: They're pretty enviable position at quarterback. Huge flip from Oregon,

1104
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: as I said, and one of the biggest risers in

1105
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: last year's recruiting cycle. Things have changed in the talent

1106
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: acquisition game. Things have changed. I'm just just telling you

1107
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: point blank, Chip Kelly at UCLA five years ago is

1108
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: probably not landing five star quarterbacks from Detroit. It's probably

1109
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: not happening. And now he is, and it's fine. You

1110
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: can just do it now. What about Ruben Owens, five

1111
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: star running back at Louisville nah uh, Texas A and M.

1112
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: He was committed to Louisville, then he decommits and he flips.

1113
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: And because A and M only finished fifteenth in recruiting

1114
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: this past year, not a lot of folks talked about it.

1115
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: More on that in a second, Number two running back

1116
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: in the country, number thirty one overall player in the country,

1117
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: five to eleven one ninety. I think he will play

1118
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: this year. It's a situation where they had devon Ah

1119
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,439
Speaker 1: Chane leave and go to the NFL. And it may

1120
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: not be that he has thirty carries in Week one.

1121
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm telling you. What I'm telling you

1122
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: is I think they will not so subtly ease him

1123
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: into the rotation and by seasons and he may very

1124
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: well be their best tailback. Now it could be that

1125
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: way from the outset, but I definitely think Ruben Owens

1126
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: is going to be a guy that matters and plays

1127
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: meaningful downs in a big way at tailback for Texas

1128
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: A and M this year. He's already enrolled. Most of

1129
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: these guys are now, I mean most of the players

1130
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about are already enrolled. This was

1131
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: a big get. They needed to keep him home. Now,

1132
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: I said, people have overlooked it because A and M

1133
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: finished fifteenth. This is going to be an interesting case study.

1134
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: You know, five years from now, maybe even three years

1135
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: from now, you had the twenty twenty two class finishes

1136
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: number one overall, highest rated class of all time. Several

1137
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: of those pieces have already left. Then you had the

1138
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three class, the finishes fifteenth. I wonder which

1139
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: one will end up being better three years, four years,

1140
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: five years from now, when you look back the pieces

1141
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: of that highly rated class that stayed and contributed and

1142
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: the pieces of this class that stay and contribute, which

1143
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: one will be considered as better. It's a crazy question

1144
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: right now because on paper it's it's twenty twenty two. Duh.

1145
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: We'll see. The other thing is does the offensive experiment

1146
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: with Bobby Patrino work out? Is Jimbo Fisher still there

1147
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: three or four years from now? All of these are

1148
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: unanswerable questions. What about Peyton Bowen? Talked about that secondary

1149
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma and how I was going to get back

1150
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: to it. Will We're back to it now. He's a

1151
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: four star safety, number three safety, number fifty seven overall

1152
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: player in the country, six foot, about one hundred and

1153
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: eighty five pounds. Their defense, as we chronicled earlier, it

1154
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: struggled mightily. They were in They were pretty much in

1155
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: the one hundreds in all the critical stack categories defensively.

1156
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: Brent Venables one of his quotes that I've paid attention

1157
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: to this spring is out of all the roster improvement

1158
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: in recruiting and portal, they think secondary they upgraded the most,

1159
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: and Peyton Bowen is their highest rated addition in that

1160
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: secondary true freshman. Yeah, he's gonna have to play. They're

1161
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: going to need him to play, and so watch him there.

1162
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: And also, you know he's from Denton, Texas. That kind

1163
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: of go back to one of the doubts I had.

1164
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: It was a blind fear that has subsided mightily. When

1165
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: Brent Venables took the job there, just because there was

1166
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: some unknown about him being a head coach, I wondered

1167
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: how well they were going to recruit Texas well. I

1168
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: said it on the show. One of the unknowns is

1169
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: how well will he recruit Texas? And you're gonna sink

1170
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: or swim at Oklahoma based on how well you can

1171
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: recruit Texas. They're very good. They've been very good recruiting Texas.

1172
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: Now you gotta win with the players, but they've been

1173
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: very good getting the players. By job is a four

1174
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: star edge at Michigan State, crown jewel of that class.

1175
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: This past year six three, two twenty five, he was

1176
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: the number seven overall edge. I think strongly we will

1177
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 1: see him this year number fifty five overall player in

1178
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: the country. They return about I think fifty six percent

1179
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: of their defensive production. You watched Michigan State last year

1180
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: as opposed to two years ago, they didn't have difference makers.

1181
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: They just didn't. It's a lot. It's a tall task

1182
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: to ask true freshmen to come in and be your

1183
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: difference makers. But when you're void of them, they're not

1184
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden going to appear on your roster.

1185
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: Very rarely does it happen that way. You will need

1186
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: an infusion of talent, and he's got to be that.

1187
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: And that's not going to be the end of the

1188
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 1: story there. They need more than just that. But he is.

1189
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: He's enrolled early enrollee. First, he's a number one ranked

1190
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: player in the state. And he's a guy who a

1191
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: lot of folks I remember talking about it in the

1192
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: scouting community. A lot of folks looked a him and

1193
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: they talked about how he was just scratching the surface

1194
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: in high school. Best football's way ahead of him, which

1195
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: is not uncommon to say about a high school player,

1196
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: but some they emphasize that on more than others. So

1197
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: those are four more true freshmen that I'm keeping a

1198
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: strong eye on. See a lot of these highly rated guys.

1199
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: They may be signed and you don't see him in

1200
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: year one. They either red shirt or they play special teams.

1201
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: These guys I think you're gonna see in year one.

1202
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: Good show, really good show. Now I gotta be full

1203
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: disclosure with you here it's gonna be an interesting week.

1204
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: On one hand, we have got the Thursday show live,

1205
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: right I think so. On the other hand, there's probably

1206
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: another tornado outbreak coming later this week. And in case

1207
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: you wonder why I'm talking about that so much, I

1208
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: Stormchase in the spring probably should have led with that

1209
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: for the newcomers. So we're gonna make a decision probably

1210
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: tomorrow about whether we're gonna have our live show on

1211
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: Tuesday or Thursday. We had it on Tuesday past week

1212
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: and everything went fine, So we'll see. We're gonna have

1213
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: you know, the live show, and we're gonna have a

1214
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: Late Kick extra. It's just which day will those two

1215
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: drop off? All the more reason for you to be

1216
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: following on the Socials at Late Kick. Josh. In the meantime,

1217
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Another strong hour plus show here.

1218
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: The casuals would tell you it's the off season, and

1219
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: the casuals are not to be trusted, not now, not then,

1220
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: not ever. For direct colin from producer Jesse, I'm Josh Fate.

1221
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: Take care, have a great start to your week. In

1222
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: God bless