WEBVTT - Buck’s First Thoughts - Our Liberty Is Under Threat 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:03.240 This is Buck's first thoughts, the news you need to 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:05.840 get through your day in forty five minutes. Make sure 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:08.559 you subscribe on the iHeart app or wherever you get 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:13.240 your podcasts. So I'm here in Florida. Everybody, I've been 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:15.440 telling you this, I'm at sea. Pack you can hear. 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.600 And so I know the show doesn't sound like it 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:21.119 always does, but that's because we have thousands and thousands 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:24.200 of conservatives gathered around me. And I'm very appreciated for 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:25.799 all of those who come up to talk to me, 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:28.440 who want to have a chat, tell me they're part 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.280 of Team Buck. But for those of you across the country, 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:33.880 we have some things to get to today, as well 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:38.239 as a number of just excellent guests. It'll be kind 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:42.159 of a surprise, a whole variety. You know, I rarely 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:43.919 do a lot of guests here on the show, but 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:48.520 today because so many of my favorite conservatives are gathered 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.159 to one place. I mean to be honest with you, 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:51.920 we have so many people that want to come on 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:54.080 the show. Our biggest problem is who can we allow 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:57.240 on the show. Well, let's first jump into what is 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:02.320 it exactly that is in peril right now? What is 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:07.720 it that's at stake. This CEPAC is about conservatism uncanceled. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:09.920 But I think one thing that brings us all together 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.360 is the recognition that no matter who you are, no 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.160 matter where you are in the country, you two face 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.560 the threat of cancelation. It doesn't matter if you're a 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.720 public person or not, it doesn't matter what you say. 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:22.920 I've had the social media companies, some of the most 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:29.479 powerful organizations corporations in the world, coming after me, censoring me, 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:34.959 trying to deep platform and undermine a message that I 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.000 put my life into. I mean, I'm doing everything I 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:40.520 can to bring the best information to the people who 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.200 listen to this show every day, and yet Facebook and 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:47.840 Twitter and others decide we don't like what you've said, 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.800 or rather, we're going to outsource the decision about what 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:54.800 you've said to somebody else. We're going to make determinations 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:58.000 about this through a third party, which is even more 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:02.000 troubling because now there's less accountability. They launder their censorship. 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.960 You see, that's the whole point. That's the decision that 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.600 they're making for all the rest of us. And if 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.519 you have an unpopular opinion right now, even if it's 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.080 popular by the numbers, in America. But if you believe 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:18.200 things that are outside the liberal orthodoxy, outside the liberal consensus, 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:23.440 you find yourself subject to destruction in the public square. 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:27.480 Well actually defenestration in a sense, first being kicked out 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:31.080 of the public square, and then perhaps also the annihilation 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.240 of your ability to be considered a person in this 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:38.639 country and good standing. Liberty is in greater peril right 0:02:38.680 --> 0:02:41.000 now in America than at any time in my life. 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.399 And you know, if you've been listening to this show 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.520 for years, that when things were good with Donald Trump, 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.359 when we were in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.720 I would stop and tell you all to smell the roses. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:57.520 I told you this country was as good as you 0:02:57.560 --> 0:03:00.160 were going to see it for a long time. That 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:01.720 was the truth. And I know a lot of you 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:04.760 now appreciated it because I said, go out se see 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:09.160 your family, you know, have a great cookout, see your buddies, 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:13.400 have some drinks in celebration, or however you celebrate, because 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.200 enjoy the good times. So I tell you the truth 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:17.959 about where we are in the country. You know that 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.800 I'm not a catastrophist. I don't run around saying how awful. 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:23.720 Everything is all the time so I can get attention. 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.760 And I'm here telling you that liberty is under greater 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:28.960 threat right now in America than at any time in 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:33.000 my lifetime, including after nine to eleven. Remember we had 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:35.960 a Republican president after nine to eleven, but there was 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.920 that threat of overreach. There was that considerable concern that 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:45.280 they would go too far. And now we see already 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.400 with the schism within the Republican Party, the possibility of 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:53.320 the military industrial complex trying to make a comeback. But 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.600 that's a conversation we'll continue to have here for the 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.520 years to come, I can assure you. But liberty is 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:03.880 under threat because the left believes that they can cancel Conservatism, 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.000 that they can actually undermine and destroy us in a 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.680 way where we will not be able to come back. 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:11.040 And their version of this is not that we all 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.800 go away. It's that we change what we say. It's 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.120 that we no longer have the beliefs that we hold dear. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:21.200 We moderate them, we shift them. They're able to move 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.120 the realm of acceptable conversation to something that's much more 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:30.640 to their liking. This alone is catastrophic for us because 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.120 once they can force you to bend the knee. Then 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.640 they can force you to start to mouth the preferred slogans, 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.599 to say the things that you know are untrue, but 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.880 that if you don't say them, you can be destroyed. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:46.880 And that brings me to the extreme Equality Act as 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.359 I'm calling it. Now. Let me first say one of 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:52.640 the central tenets of this show has always been and 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:57.320 will always be, to treat people, all people, with dignity 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.440 and decency, our fellow human beings. There is a love 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:05.200 of your fellow human beings, as people made in the 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:09.120 eye of God. There's a love that you must have 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.200 to be a true Conservative, and it must extend, of course, 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:18.960 without any reference to a person's sexuality, ethnicity, religion. You 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.240 must love your fellow human beings, or else you are 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:26.159 failing as a conservative, because our whole constitution, the natural 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.320 law that it is rooted in, the universal and endless 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:32.480 truth that is rooted in, are undermined without that love, 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.880 without that sense of commonality and understanding. On this bill, 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:40.600 though assessing this purely from a policy perspective, there are 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.320 real there are real areas of concern, and I know 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.520 that because they say it's an LGBTQ bill, we are 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.880 all supposed to view this as an extension of the 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:54.159 Civil Rights Act, but what it is actually doing to 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.719 women's sports, what it actually would do to separation of 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:03.320 the sexes, is both very concerning. I'm still also an 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.120 open question. We have to find more of what's really 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.600 going to happen here. I want to share with you now. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.920 Now the Democrats in the House have already passed this bill, 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.360 but I want to share with you what Senator rand Paul, 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.000 who is an MD himself, which I like to note 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.040 because people say, oh, what does he know about science? Well, 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:19.560 he went to medical school and it's been a practicing 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.760 doctor for decades. He was speaking to Rachel Levine, supposed 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:31.000 to be a senior HHS official, and he asked Rachel 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:36.000 Levine about what the full scope and scale of the 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:41.000 Equality Act would be for children, for teenagers when it 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:45.680 comes to policy, now, federal government policy around transgender issues. 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.839 Here is how that exchange went. Let it go into 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.560 the record that the witness refused to answer the question. 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.120 The question is a very specific one. Should minors be 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.440 making these momentous decisions? From most of the history of medicine, 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:00.520 we wouldn't let you have a cut sewn up in 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.520 the er. But you're willing to let a minor take 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.159 things that prevent their puberty, and you think they get 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.440 that back. You give a woman testosterone enough that she 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.600 grows up beard, you think she's gonna go back looking 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.000 like a woman. When you stop the testosterone, you have 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:18.680 permanently changed them infertilities of another problem. None of these 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:20.920 drugs have been approved for this. They're all being used 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.400 off label. I find it ironic that the left that 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.920 went nuts over a hydroxy chloric when being used possibly 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:31.040 for COVID are not alarmed that these hormones are being 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:34.120 used off label. There's no long term studies. We don't 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.440 know what happens to them. We do know that there 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.240 are dozens and dozens of people been through this who 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:43.320 regret that this happening, and a permanent change happened to them. 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.680 And you know, if you've ever been around children, fourteen 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.600 year olds can't make this decision. In the gender dysphoria 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:53.200 clinic in England, ten percent of the kids are between 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.560 the age of three and ten. We should be outraged 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:58.840 that someone's talking to a three year old about changing 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:05.160 their sex. I can't thank you so much, Senator Levine. 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:10.560 Thank you for Levine's response, which we could also play 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:11.800 for you, but I can just tell you what it 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:14.800 was was to say that there's a lot of complexity here, 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:16.880 that there's a lot of stuff that you have to 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.280 think about, a lot of considerations that you have to have, 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.400 and wouldn't actually say anything, wouldn't actually speak to what 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.280 was going on, wouldn't give an answer to the question 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:30.560 at all should children be allowed to have full gender 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:34.559 transition as part of what they can do without parental consent, 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.440 without any change whatsoever. Should children be able to do that? 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.440 The answer from somebody who'll be a top public health 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:45.320 official and the Biden administration is it's really complicated. I 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.160 don't think it's really complicated. I think that we need 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.800 to have a much more honest discussion about the fact 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:53.679 that the very medical procedures, the science that they're advocating 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.400 for here doesn't have any long term studies, that it's 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.319 all being made up really on the fly, and there's 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:04.040 tremendous damage, there's tremendous risk from all of this, and 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:06.000 that we need to be much more serious as a 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:10.560 country about the risks we're putting children through. Because of 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.320 what the activists class and the extreme left wants to achieve. 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.160 And that's just one example here. We can talk about 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:19.720 what it does to sports, we can talk about what 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:23.160 it does in schools and a separation of the sexes. 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:29.079 But let's be very very clear here. The reality of 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.480 what we are seeing from this Biden administration is a 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:39.480 left wing, far progressive Biden administration that is nothing like 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:42.240 what we were promised in the election cycle. And we 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.240 knew it and we saw it coming. But how different 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.679 would it really be if you had had a President 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:49.960 Bernie Sanders at this point, or even a president AOC. 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.800 Look at what they're doing, look at what they're focusing on. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:57.280 We need to understand the stakes here. Friends are high. 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.040 You're in the freedom height. Thanks for listening to a 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.120 Buck Sexton Show podcast to get the latest from Buck 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:08.160 at buck sexton dot com. All right, I'm here at 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.360 sea pack. You probably get that sense. You can hear 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.280 the many, many folks all around me, but I'm joined 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:15.960 by the man himself. I think that's how we have 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:17.080 to refer to you. I don't know if we call 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.000 you the czar, you know, the we know you're the chairman, 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.679 the old man from Yo man Matt slap of the 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:27.240 American Conservative Union. He's the chairman of the ACU. He's 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.920 here with me right now. Matt, thanks so much, Thanks Buck, 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.679 thanks for being here. It's a lot to a lot 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:35.520 of people. It is great and it's sunny and we 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.719 didn't close down. That's a big deal. Yeah. I got 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.520 dragged to my first Sea pack by random friends. I 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.640 think it was now almost fifteen years ago. I was 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.360 a CIA officer and I was like, and they knew, 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.760 they knew that I was a stealth conservative, you know, 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:52.320 and they brought me in DC and I was like, 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.360 this is awesome. So here I am not fifteen years later, 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:57.960 actually presenting a sepac Buck Sexton, not hiding anymore. Yeah, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:10:59.880 you are what you are. Yeah, you can actually tell 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:01.959 people that you're patriotic, you love your country. Once you 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:03.959 work in the federal government, you know, you know you 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:05.920 got to keep that on the download sometimes from the 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.920 libs that are lurking behind the sea. Well that's not true. 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:12.320 If you work for HHS, they love you. But but 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.960 you know, Bucks X and I have developed quite a 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:18.199 close bond at Seapack. I held his phone yesterday. You 0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:20.320 seemed a little nervous as I had your phone. You 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.120 wondered where I was gonna go with that. You give 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.640 them in your phone, you give them your life pretty much. 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.000 So we got people that are all across the country 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.080 list that they're gonna be watching the live stream. Matt, 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:33.600 tell me this, what is what is uh this year? 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.040 The thing that is setting the seapack apart? Well, I 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.840 do think it's a big deal that the title is 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:46.199 America uncanceled because we didn't say Conservatism uncanceled because I 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.960 you know, yeah, I run a group that has conservative 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.000 in the title. But it's not really about being a conservative. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.000 It's like I don't believe in communism. I think Marxism 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.120 is bad. Like our coalition could be so much bigger, 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.880 Like you can disagree with this on all kinds of issues, 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:00.760 but do you think like we should have constitution? How 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.960 about that one? Right? Like there are on our side now, 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.240 you know? So uh, And then they we physically were canceled. 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:08.959 We were told by the state of Maryland, which has 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:11.280 a you know, one of these Republican governors who's not 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.640 so good, is uh, it's not safe to do this, 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.480 Like no matter how many masks you where, it's not safe. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:19.880 And just because I thought masks are highly effective and 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:22.240 you have social distancing as we really are in masks 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:23.719 as we do. A really good point. I thought it 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:25.920 was supposed to be highly Not only is the mask 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.360 apparently not enough to make you safe. Now we're told 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:31.959 that even when you get the vaccine, which I haven't gotten. 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:33.440 My mother's gotten it and she's going to be here 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.199 if parents got them the apparently that doesn't keep you 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:38.040 safe because even when you get the vaccine, you have 0:12:38.080 --> 0:12:40.840 to stay locked into your freezer, your basement. Do you 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.839 know when you're safe, Matt, it's actually when doctor Fauci says, yes, 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.560 that's actually the science. Actually you would have been safe 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:49.480 is after he threw out that pop fly at the 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.160 at the game at the Gnats. You would have been 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.000 safe if you sat by him in the stands when 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.080 he took off his mask. There you go. Yeah. And 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.080 also not much of a heater or across home plate, 0:12:58.160 --> 0:12:59.800 let's be honest. So if you were getting hit by 0:12:59.800 --> 0:13:02.320 that one heater, that was a cooler, that was not 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.000 a heater. Yeah. So I'm so glad to be down 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:06.280 here in Florida. You know, one of the things we 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:08.960 talk about a lot on the show and we've got, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.160 you know, a number of big stations in Miami and 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:14.559 Tampa and elsewhere across the state. One of the things 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.640 that we discuss is just what it's like to go 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:20.640 from the unfree state of whatever, New York, California, to 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.520 the free state of Florida. How much credit do you 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.240 think Ronda Santist really deserves for this. I call him 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.760 America's governor. He's great on opening up, he's great on 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.760 using common sense. On covid or Corona. He doesn't like 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.079 say it doesn't exist or it's a Matthew says, no, 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.800 it's real. But think about Florida. He's got an aged 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.360 population because it's a place where people come to retire. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.000 He's got better numbers than all the governors who shut 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:44.960 things down. I said on the stage a few moments 0:13:44.960 --> 0:13:47.920 ago that some of his colleagues got an Emmy for acting. 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:51.160 He deserves the people Choice People's Choice Award because he's 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:56.880 just conservatism. Even if you don't like the word constitutionalism, 0:13:56.920 --> 0:14:00.840 Americanism is just common sense. That's really what it comes 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:02.560 down to. You get to make your decisions. If you 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.040 make bad decisions, you're probably gonna have a crappy life 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.280 and then don't turn to me to fix all your problems. 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:10.120 So the only other person that could also be referred 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.080 to perhaps as the big guy or you know, the 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.400 chief or whatever that's a seapack would be here on Sunday. 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.679 I believe, Yeah, I thought that, mister Donald Trump. Right, 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:20.960 It's it's either it's either mister Schlab or mister Trump. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.000 That's the way it goes at seapack. So Trump's gonna 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.440 be here. What are we expecting him to say? I know, 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.440 we don't know, and no one knows until the words 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:30.200 actually come out of his mouth. But what are you thinking? 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.440 You know? I think it's interesting. I think he's trying 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.120 to figure out, like what his political role is, you know, 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.600 how he's gonna do endorsements, How does he play this 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.000 game as a former president. I talk to someone who's 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:43.360 a close intimate of his. I won't I won't say 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.960 who he or she is, but I do think everyone 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:49.640 who's had interactions with him he's really at peace. He 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.200 seems like a happy guy, maybe even a happier guy. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.760 You know, he's a little a few steps removed from 0:14:55.760 --> 0:15:00.440 like this constant attacking that would happen. And and I 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:03.600 expect that to come through, just like he's he's at 0:15:03.640 --> 0:15:06.240 ease with the situation. I think the left believes that 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.480 he's like a bad evil, almost demonic person when they 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:11.760 don't believe in the devil, but a bad evil guy. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.840 And he doesn't recycle, so that means yeah, And he 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:18.560 doesn't have a fake dog, so that that too. But 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.280 they really do think that, like he's a devious person. 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.560 And you know, people are a combination of virtue's and vices. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.800 They're a cocktail of interesting things. And there's so much 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.880 good and decent and wonderful about the guy. He's such 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:31.840 a great guy. Everybody would love to have a beer. 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.280 He of course wouldn't because he doesn't drink with him. 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.280 And so I think that's gonna come through on the stage. 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:38.960 I think you and I talked about this. Conservatives don't 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:43.480 overly emotionalize, We don't think with our passions by and large, 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:45.400 but I do think this is a kind of an 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:49.360 emotional moment. They silenced the man. It's it's disgusting, it's outrageous, 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.360 and he's gonna be unplugged. And I think that's gonna 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.400 be a really important moment. Yeah, because of the Twitter 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.560 band and the other social media platforms that have taken 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.480 the former leader of the free world and said that 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:04.400 you don't have access to the digital public square. This 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.880 will be the first. While the Ayatola can have his. 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.200 Of course, terrorists can have theirs, and Black Lives Matter 0:16:10.280 --> 0:16:12.040 can have theirs, and all these people get to have 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:16.480 theirs who are who have done terrible things, but this 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.280 president can. And do you think it's fair to say, 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:24.040 as we're having sepac here, that free speech is under 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.800 the greatest threat in your lifetime? I always say in 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.240 my lifetime, but I can't speak for others right now 0:16:29.280 --> 0:16:31.840 in this country. And do you also feel like liberty 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:34.920 is in more duress? Yeah? I just talked to Senator 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.080 Langford who gave great remarks on think about this. How 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:42.040 crazy is it that the Abraham Accords, this great accomplishment 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:47.160 of President Trump. These Muslim countries agreed to have religious 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.600 freedom in their countries as a part of those accords, 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.640 while the United States Senate and the United States House 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:58.200 is literally taking away our religious freedoms in this Equality Act. 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:02.000 It literally says, specifically, you can't use your faith or 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.719 anything to do with your faith as a reason not 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.879 to be compelled by the government has never happened in 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.760 this country. Matt, thanks so much for putting this all together. 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:14.760 Thanks for being here, well here working folks who are 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:17.080 curious to be able to watch this on a stream 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.760 or on YouTube, well you can go to our website 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.040 at conservative dot org. That's the best place to go. 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:23.520 But I'll be honest with you, Buck, we've had some 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:28.560 issues already. I hope the center holds and that conservatives 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.040 when they come together and liberals. We talked about Alex 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.000 Barnson being here, formerly of the New York Times. Everyone 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:35.520 should be able to speak on that stage. And if 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.600 any of these companies throttle us, stop us, cancel us, 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:40.880 there is going to be hell to pay. And that 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.560 is what's going to rip this country apart. In the end. 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:47.440 It'll be these people with power from the left who 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:50.960 say that conservatives must be silenced. They will rip America 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.720 apart and it'll be irrevocably. And so let's hope that 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:55.840 the center holds and they do the right thing. Matt 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.760 Lap Chairman of the ACU. Matt goodness, Buck talk to 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:03.719 you on stage. You're listening to the Buck Sexton Shoe podcast. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.280 Make sure you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeart 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.400 radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm at Seedpack. 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:13.320 But China is on a lot of people's minds given 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:15.639 the challenge they post the United States and what it 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.439 means for our economy, for national security. I'm gonna be 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:20.920 on a panel talking about the Russian I'm actually speaking 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.960 abot the Russian side of it, and Chinese cyber threats 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.440 and big tech threats to the US. What I've got 0:18:26.480 --> 0:18:29.040 the man himself here to talk to us about what's 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.840 going on with China in all regards. Gordon Chang is 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:33.600 with us and he is the author of the Great 0:18:33.680 --> 0:18:36.720 US US China Tech War. Gordon is always good to 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:38.920 see you. Thank you so much, Buck and Gordon G. 0:18:39.200 --> 0:18:41.560 Chang is his Twitter folks, You should follow him and 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.280 read his latest research and analysis on these topics. Gordon, 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:49.800 what is right now for the Biden administration The biggest 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.600 challenge that they have with China that you're worried they're 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:56.040 gonna fail, Well, probably it's gonna be the South China. 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:59.960 See in Taiwan. You remember on January twenty three, China's 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.560 H six K bombers. They're nuclear capable. While they were 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:07.240 threatening Taiwan by going through its air defense identification zone. 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:11.240 They also simulated an attack on the Theodore Roosevelt Carrier 0:19:11.320 --> 0:19:14.200 Strike Group, which was in the vicinity. So that was 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.600 a message not only to Taipei, but certainly an extremely 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:21.480 pointed message to the Biden administration. Now, if somebody asks 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.240 you to gauge the biggest challenge we have from China 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:28.760 on the cyber front, something that's getting talked about a 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.920 bit here at CEPAC, how do you view that Going 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.320 from the US perspective right now, I think the problem is, 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:39.199 you know, China's cyber criminals. I get that, But the 0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:42.119 most the biggest threat is that we're not defending ourselves. 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:44.320 This is our country. We know that they've been doing 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.719 this for decades. We don't do enough about it, and 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:51.880 so it's really I think a problem of American inability 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.720 to defend our own networks. Just give you one example, 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:58.119 and this is the one that really sticks in my 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:02.760 craw and this goes back to twenty fourteen. That was 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.920 the time of the cyber attack on Sony Pitchers Entertainment 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:11.080 obviously came from North Korea, but those North Koreans were 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:14.560 actually on Chinese soil. When they launched that attack, they 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:19.200 were launched from Chinese IP addresses. Now, the FBI at 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:24.080 the time was asked, is any other country involved? The 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:29.680 answer was no, that is just impossible because China maintains 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:33.160 the Great Firewall. It is the world's most sophisticated set 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.879 of Internet controls. The Chinese knew, of course about the 0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:39.120 North Grand hackers, that they're permanently on Chinese soil, but 0:20:39.200 --> 0:20:42.520 they launched it went through the Great Firewall. They Chinese 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.240 obviously saw it go out. They saw the hundreds of 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:49.000 terabytes of data exfiltrated from Sony that came back into 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:53.240 the China, and yet the FBI was saying no, no 0:20:53.320 --> 0:20:56.560 other country involved. That shows you this is a failure 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.800 of the United States to defend our networks when the 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:02.800