1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: This is John, this is them Okay Storytime podcast hosts, 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: and we have some. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: Good story is coming up for you. 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 3: That's right. 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: But before that, we have a little morsel of a 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: two minute outbreak from the sponsors keeping the show delicious. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: My husband let his family move into my house and 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 3: now they walk all over me. 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: Get him out of there. 10 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 4: This has been bothering. 11 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: Me since twenty twenty four, and I am seeking out 12 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: if I twenty eight female, am going crazy or am 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 3: the ale that my husband and his family are accusing 14 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: me of being? Twenty twenty four was a major bed year. 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: My husband thirty nine call him John, convinced my sister 16 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: in law thirty three, her husband thirty seven call him George, 17 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: and my mother in law sixty five to move into 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: my house from New York to Texas when they were 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 3: expecting a newborn, to be closer to family and help 20 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: them save money for house. By the way, this comes 21 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: from Intripella, and if you want to submit your own stories, 22 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: go to the r slash Okay Storytime suburn it. 23 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: I'm Sophia, I'm Carly. 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 5: No. 25 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 4: We're here to give good. 26 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: Advice goofy, but we don't have all the answers. We 27 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: only know what we'd do, so let us know what 28 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 3: you would do. 29 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 4: In the comments. 30 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: We agreed on certain conditions. Their cat I'm highly allergic, 31 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: would stay in a gated area. They'd take the spaces 32 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: to guest rooms, masterroom, upstairs, game, living room, and they'd 33 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: pay twenty five hundred monthly rent. Utilities included, far less 34 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: than their six thousand dollars apartment in New York. This 35 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 3: arrangement was decided despite me paying the mortgage and utilities 36 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 3: entirely on my own. I grew up with my house, 37 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: my rules mentality, so I set basic expectations. Keep thous clean, 38 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: respect the furniture I had just purchased new pieces, and 39 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: don't disturb my workplace. I work from home in the 40 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: living room. John left two months after they moved in 41 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 3: due to a job six hours away, and I was 42 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 3: left alone to manage the household. When my sister in law, 43 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: super pregnant at the time, and George first moved in, 44 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: I told them basic expectations about maintaining the house and 45 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 3: of property damage. I noticed George was making a mess 46 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: and my sister in law was cleaning after him while 47 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: she was pregnant and hurting. This bothered me, so I 48 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 3: called him out on how he shouldn't make. 49 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 4: His wife do all this. 50 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: I specifically called him out when he was laying on 51 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: the couch and told her to fetch the massage device 52 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 3: in the room when my sister in law felt super uncomfortable. 53 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 3: My sister in law was still working from home and 54 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: her husband recently quit his job. He does day trading instead, 55 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: but not making much money, and then plays games like 56 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: counter striking chess on his computer. George complained about no 57 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 3: ethernet port upstairs. Then he opened the window and put 58 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 3: out a long ethernet cable to the master room that 59 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 3: was located downstairs. Upon the electrician's arrival to install the 60 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: ethernet that he's paying for, they made loud noises and 61 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 3: disturbed my sister in law and my work. Sister in 62 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 3: law was furious about it. The electrician informed me that 63 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 3: my attic has hornets, so I had to pause my 64 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: work and called for an emergency pest control. Once that 65 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: was dealt with, the electrician showed me a picture that 66 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: the attic was missing a big chunk of insulation, so 67 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: I had to deal with the home builder to refill. 68 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 3: Since I was still in warranty. While I was working 69 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: in the living room. Around ten thirty am, I had 70 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: my meeting call. George comes down and makes a lot 71 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: of disturbance and noise while cooking in the kitchen. I 72 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 3: kindly asked him. 73 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 4: If he would refrain from cooking. 74 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: When I'm on a call and it only takes thirty minutes. 75 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: It didn't happen as much, but his action relapsed over time. 76 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: I didn't notice, but he created a big grease stain 77 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: on the kitchen cabinet because he constantly cooked bacon on 78 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: high heat. I told both my sister in law and 79 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: him to be careful next time. I was highly upset 80 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: since we just got this house three months ago. While 81 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: they were using the tesla, I noticed they'd already ruined 82 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: the car with a curb brash. I didn't tell my 83 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: husband because I know he'll be pissed, but I had 84 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: to cover four hundred dollars out of pocket to get 85 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: it fixed. I also made it appoint meant to do 86 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: a PPF wrap cover to prevent any further damage. That 87 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: cost me three thousand dollars out of pocket. Additionally, the 88 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: car developed significant tar damage, costing another four inch to fix. 89 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: George just said, okay. I never offered a pay. I've 90 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 3: noticed he constantly uses the Tesla and kept using the 91 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 3: toll way that I paid for and racking up the 92 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: toll I complained to my husband about it, and now 93 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: I'm annoyed with George not respecting the house in the 94 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: car we just bought. I also told him that I 95 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 3: don't like how her husband is not treating her right 96 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: while she's pregnant. This is all less than one month 97 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: after moving in, my mother in law moved into the 98 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: guest room to help out with the upcoming baby. I 99 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,559 Speaker 3: noticed she was cleaning up George's mess and tiptoeing around 100 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 3: him not to disturb him while he was day trading 101 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 3: or screaming his lungs out when he lost his counter 102 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: strike game. I was not okay that my mother in 103 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: law was cleaning up George's mess all the time when 104 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: she's there as a guest to relax until the baby comes, 105 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: not do house chores. The cat pede on my couch 106 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: and George didn't clean it properly. He just dabbed it 107 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: with a paper towel and called it a day. I 108 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: was in the middle of a work meaning and didn't 109 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: have time to explain how to clean it properly, so 110 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 3: I handed him the Bissel machine and told them to 111 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: follow the instructions instead of reading them. He made this 112 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: situation worse. After my call, I checked his work and 113 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: the couch was still dirty. This wasted one to two 114 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: hours of my worktime. Four days later, the cat pete 115 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 3: on the couch again. This time my mother in law 116 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: sat on it while in another work meaning. She informed 117 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: me and I paused my call to tell George to 118 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 3: clean it immediately since it was a bioazard. He ignored me, 119 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: saying you'd do it later, even though he was just 120 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: day trading for fun. And then you say no, you say, 121 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you're in my house. 122 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 4: Clean it right now. 123 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: You are living in my house. Clean it now or 124 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 3: get out. I do feel like, op, you need to 125 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: be a little bit stricter with this. 126 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 4: They are terrible. 127 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, lay down the. 128 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: Law ten minutes past and mother in law to clean 129 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 3: part of it herself. I confronted him again, but he 130 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: still refused to act. Mother in law went upstairs to 131 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: explain the urgency and I overheard George rudely ask her 132 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: to clean it instead. His tone infuriated me. I went upstairs, 133 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: yelled at him and told him not to disrespect mother 134 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: in law or expect her to handle his responsibilities. I 135 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: broke down and told my husband what had happened. Instead 136 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 3: of supporting me, he said my reaction was childish and 137 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 3: asked me to apologize to George. I acknowledged that yelling 138 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: wasn't ideal, but I'd given George multiple chances, and his 139 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 3: dismissive attitude, especially towards mother in law, was unacceptable. I'm 140 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: upset that my husband's sided with his family instead of 141 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: understanding my frustration. Why is my work treated as less 142 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: important while George's hobbies are prioritized. Eventually I apologized to 143 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: George just to keep the peace, even though I still 144 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: feel he was in the wrong. He never apologized back 145 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: to mother in law or acknowledged his behavior. The whole 146 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: situation left me feeling dismissed and disrespected in my own home. 147 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: Over time, George continued pushing boundaries. He kept his day 148 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 3: trading set up in the upstairs living room and would 149 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: scream at his games well into the night. My sister 150 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: in law gave birth an early June, and the house 151 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: became even more chaotic. I tried to be understanding about 152 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: the baby crying, but George's behavior didn't change. He still 153 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: expected everyone else to clean up after him and do 154 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: things for him while he sat at his computer. The 155 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: cat continued to be a problem. Despite the agreement that 156 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: it would stay in a gated area, it kept getting 157 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: out and wandering around the house. My allergies were getting worse. 158 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: I found cat hair on my furniture. Not to keep 159 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: taking allergy medication just to. 160 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: Be comfortable in my own home. 161 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: I brought this up multiple times, but no, nothing changed. 162 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: I was also dealing with work stress. I had been 163 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: laid off from my previous job and was doing interviews 164 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: while trying to maintain the household. The constant interruptions from 165 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: George's cooking, gaming, and general loudness made it incredibly difficult 166 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: to focus during important calls. I felt like I couldn't 167 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 3: even work effectively in my own home. My husband was 168 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: still six hours away for work and would only visit occasionally. 169 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: Every time I tried to talk to him about the issues, 170 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 3: he would minimize my concerns or tell me I was 171 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 3: being too sensitive. Nope, so at that point, we're kicking 172 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 3: them out, we're divorcing your husband. 173 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 5: It's so hard because for so much of it it 174 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 5: was like, well, you don't want to kick because of 175 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 5: the baby and everything, and it's like she says, being great. 176 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 3: Mister low can say. I'd be like, hey, girl, if 177 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: you want to stay, your husband's a piece of poop, 178 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: a lazy little but you can stay. 179 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 4: Your husband's gone. My husband's gone. I am on the lease. 180 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: I paid the mortgage, have a girly pop house. He 181 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: kept saying his family was just trying to save money 182 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: and that I should be more accommodating. But I was 183 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 3: the one paying all the bills, dealing with all the 184 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: problems and getting no support. George's family came to visit. 185 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: I halted some of my interview prep and tore them 186 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: around Austin. My husband came around the end of July 187 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: to visit, but then I got an emergency message from 188 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: my family that my grandpa was in the hospital and 189 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: that was critical. I booked my flight back to California 190 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 3: when I had the biggest tech opportunity I needed to prep. 191 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: I was in and out of the hospital for two weeks, 192 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 3: dealing with fifteen interviews. I didn't have a space or 193 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: room to interview anywhere, and my immediate family. 194 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: Does not know I was laid off. 195 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: At that point, I'm literally saying, hey, husband, I got 196 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: laid off because of your family. 197 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 5: Right, can you keep it back here please and do something? 198 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 3: Where was he again? 199 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 4: I don't know? 200 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 3: He has like a job six hours away. Within the 201 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 3: second week, my family and I witnessed his last breath 202 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: in the hospital. 203 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 6: Ugh. 204 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: My family and I hurried to fa figure out last 205 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 3: minute funeral arrangements. I paid out twenty thousand dollars of 206 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: the ninety thousand for the funeral. After the funeral, more 207 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: family drama unraveled. I was able to get a job offered, 208 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: but it was much lower income than I had had 209 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: in the past, but it was better than nothing. I 210 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: flew back and had one week break to recover. I 211 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 3: was in a super depressed state and overwhelmed with a 212 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 3: lot of things. I didn't want to be bothered and 213 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 3: just wanted to recover in my bedroom for a bit. 214 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 3: Between the funeral costs, the car repairs, helping my husband 215 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 3: with his house emergency, and continuing to pay all the 216 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 3: household bills while my in laws lived there, my savings 217 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 3: were depleting rapidly. I was more stressed financially about taking 218 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 3: a big chunk of my savings, so I ended up 219 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 3: signing up for the energy program, where the energy provider 220 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: controls the thermostat for rebates. It saves about one hundred 221 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 3: dollars per month. My in laws were complaining about the 222 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: temperature of the house to my husband. My husband messaged 223 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 3: me at the time, but I was so so depressed 224 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: that I didn't respond to anyone or leave my room. 225 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 4: For two to three days. 226 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 3: Then my husband blew up on me on the phone 227 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: and I explained I'm not controlling the thermostat. He said, 228 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: the baby is sweating and I should cancel the rebate immediately, 229 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 3: but I said that it will take time and I 230 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 3: have to wait until the next business day. My husband 231 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 3: calls me materialistic and unwilling to prioritize family comfort. 232 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 5: Beyond I will say beyond family comfort, Yeah, babies being 233 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: too hot, Yeah, past really bad. 234 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 4: Yes, I agree with that. 235 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: But he so maybe they should just get out, yeah, 236 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: or maybe pay? 237 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 4: Maybe you pay. 238 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. I think my husband and I agree to a 239 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 3: divorce at this point, and I just stopped caring because 240 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: I'm really in deep depression and rock bottom. I didn't 241 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: even feel safe within my own home. My husband finally 242 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: suggested that he'll take over and cover the electricity bill. 243 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 3: This only lasted two months. We talked it out and 244 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 3: I cried a lot because of how I felt through 245 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: all this year, and I felt how unfair it was 246 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: my husband it was gaslighting me that I was the 247 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: problem and the fault, and did not take accountability that 248 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: his emotional response by blowing this out of proportion caused 249 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: all this problem in the first place. Out of frustration, 250 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: I told them I gave up my dreams to support 251 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: his dream. 252 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: I thought. 253 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 3: We initially agreed to move to Seattle soon, but I 254 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: got stuck living in Texas, which I was super unhappy about. 255 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: He was super dismissive that I was selfish and I 256 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 3: never sacrificed anything. Yes, I'm dumb for taking him back. 257 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: I originally planned to give away my Lexus to my 258 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: siblings to use for college. They needed a reliable car. 259 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 3: My brother had been asking before we bought the Tesla. 260 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: I told my husband that I wanted to give my 261 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: Lexus away, but I couldn't since the Tesla is his car. 262 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: My sister in law and George had three months to 263 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: look for a car. They barely looked until the last 264 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: two weeks. Eventually, I shipped the Lexus and I used 265 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: the Tesla as my daily drive to work. My sister 266 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: in law and George got a brand new Tesla Model three. 267 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: They bought a brand new Tesla Model three and they 268 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: can't freaking rent out an apartment. 269 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 4: Heye yyyye. 270 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 3: I've noticed they barely drive their car and are extra careful, 271 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: but literally do not give a crap about our Tesla. 272 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: This double standard bothered me immensely. They treated their own 273 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: property with care, but had no respect for mine. At 274 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 3: this timeline, my husband had a house problem back in 275 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 3: Dallas and didn't have the savings to fix the water damage. 276 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 3: I gave them ten thousand dollars because that is an 277 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: emergency fund that I allocated for Meanwhile, I was still 278 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: paying the full mortgage and utilities while only receiving twenty 279 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: five hundred dollars from my in laws. Within a month, 280 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: I started focusing on myself and improving my mental health. 281 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: I went to work overtime, I started going to the 282 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: gym every day, leaving me Saturday to run errands, and 283 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: Sunday as my only rest day. My mother in law 284 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: was not living with us, so the whole month with 285 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: my sister in law and George, it was normal. It 286 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 3: was going well, and my relationship with my husband was better. 287 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: My mother in law came back again, staying with us 288 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: to help out watching the baby since my sister in 289 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: law is returning to work in October. And when I 290 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: started my new job, I told everyone that the company 291 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 3: I worked for is very private and secret of I 292 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: worked from home on Monday and Friday. The living room 293 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: is actually off limits since they're not allowed to see 294 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: my monitor screens or hear me when I'm discussing in meetings. Nice, 295 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: go kay, Sorry, you actually can't come in because you'll 296 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: get arrested super tops. 297 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 4: Sorry. 298 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: The company I worked for monitors everything on my work laptop. 299 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 3: I got slapped on the wrist the first week when 300 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: my manager noticed someone was in the background. I told 301 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 3: the same scenario to my mother in law. She acknowledged, 302 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 3: but the following week she went to the living room 303 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: with the baby. My husband came down to visit the 304 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: family and me again for the short holiday weekend out 305 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: of nowhere. My mother in law said she doesn't feel 306 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: respected in the house and blame me for being disrespectful. 307 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: My sister in law and George were like, what the 308 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: his mother in law talking about my husband did not 309 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: listen and said, I was being selfish. Divorce this man. 310 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: You know, we're so back and forth with this divorce. 311 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 4: This stinky man. 312 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: He stinks stinky. My mother in law mentioned about the 313 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: living room, and I've been telling everyone the reason it's 314 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 3: off limits. While I was working, my husband blew up 315 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 3: that I was being a witch and a dictator. I 316 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: was so fed up and tired having this conversation again, 317 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: and I blurted out, do you want a divorce then, 318 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: in front of his family, Yes, I want you to 319 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: have a divorce. Have a divorce. 320 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 5: I want these people to get out of your house. 321 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 5: Get the house, get out of leave the house for 322 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: the husband. 323 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: Get yeah, get out of there, Get out of there. 324 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 3: He packed up, left the house and drove back down. 325 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 3: When I was discussing with my mother in law and 326 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: sister in law and George, there was a whole misunderstanding. 327 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: It was hours of conversation. My mother in law was 328 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: telling me how come I don't spend time with a family. Hello, 329 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: I just got back from being laid off, witnessing a 330 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: passing right in front of me, and I'm heads down 331 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: working and don't have time. She keeps invalidating my responses 332 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 3: my sister in law, and I explained to my mother 333 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: in law, I am an introvert and I stay in 334 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 3: the room to recover. She said she feels better spending 335 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: time with family. I'm super exhausted from this conversation. What 336 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: pisses me off is when she says this is John's house. 337 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 3: I explained to the family, it's not because I paid 338 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 3: for this with my own money and he never contributed 339 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: to anything since day one. Take them out, them out. 340 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: Here, get I'm out of here. 341 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: Dude, Come on, why are we still doing this. Let's 342 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: not dil dally. I had paid the down payment, I 343 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 3: paid the mortgage every month, I pay all the utilities. 344 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:47,479 Speaker 3: I pay for repairs and maintenance. My husband hasn't contributed 345 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: a single dollar to this house. Yet somehow's family felt 346 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: entitled to dictate how I should run it and make 347 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: me feel like a guest in my own home. They 348 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 3: tried to lecture me like this is family and it's 349 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: wrong to implement rules, and I told them I put 350 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 3: rules because y'all are ruining my property. I worked super 351 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: hard for it. My in law started gaslighting me that 352 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: I never told them the rules about my new job 353 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: and the space's off limits when I'm working. I had 354 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: told them multiple times, but they acted like I never 355 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 3: said anything. At this point, I was ganged up about 356 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: the car. I had the plan since the beginning before 357 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 3: my in law's moved to give it away. George starts 358 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:31,239 Speaker 3: invalidating my family's upbringing and dissing them and me in 359 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 3: front of my face. George is super privileged. He grew 360 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,719 Speaker 3: up with his parents paying for everything. George brought up 361 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: the cat pee incident and I was being a crybaby 362 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 3: and being rude. I explained to my sister in law 363 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 3: what happened, and she agreed that he shouldn't have asked 364 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: mother in law to do it. I was surprised that 365 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: my mother in law ganged up and defended George that 366 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: his stock exchange was more. 367 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: Important than my job. 368 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god, his not job is more important. 369 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: Than her job. 370 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, video games is more important than her job. 371 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: This was the final straw. My actual career, which was 372 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: paying for the roof over their heads, was considered less 373 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 3: important than George playing with stocks for fun. I feel 374 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 3: like my efforts to accommodate my in laws have been 375 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: dismissed and my sacrifices have gone unrecognized. My husband has 376 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 3: consistently prioritized his family's needs over mine, leaving me feel 377 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 3: unsupported and disrespected in my own home. The repeated conflicts 378 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: and lack of accountability from my in laws and husband 379 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 3: have taken a toll on my mental health. 380 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 5: I just need you to get these people out of 381 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 5: Get out of your house. This is that they're not listening. 382 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 5: They're being so disrespectful. 383 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: Exorcism. 384 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 5: They're like weirdly sometimes agreeing yeah, and completely changing their. 385 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: Minds, so strange. Get them out. 386 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: Divorce yours. 387 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: Whatever he is sucks. There's a little bit left. 388 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 3: The in law's moved out of the house to a 389 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: new house they bought a block from my house. Apparently 390 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: they had over one hundred thousand dollars day deposit sitting 391 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: there already. Well, I was panicking on my end and 392 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: dealing with my husband's debt. I'm becoming resentful and would 393 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: just like to get a divorce and get it over. 394 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: Do you think this relationship is salvagable at this point. 395 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 3: Oh Am, I wasting effort and energy trying to convince 396 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 3: my husband to make him understand my POV and what's 397 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 3: unfair yep, I tried couples therapy in the past, but 398 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 3: he does not like that idea and unwilling to participate THENDPEM. 399 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 400 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: to the next one. 401 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 5: My husband and I have been married six months and 402 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 5: I already want out. 403 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 2: Dang, that was quick. 404 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 5: I'm seriously struggling with my marriage and my relationship with 405 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 5: my husband. We've been together for four years at this 406 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 5: point and married for about six months. We rushed getting 407 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 5: engaged and married because I had found out I was 408 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 5: pregnant last October. 409 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: By the way, this. 410 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 5: Comes from Dynamite Tricks and if you want usubmit your 411 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 5: own stories, go to the r slash oak storytime subreddit. 412 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 5: I'm Carly, I'm Sophia, and we're here to give good 413 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 5: advice goofully, But we don't have all the answers. We 414 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 5: only know what we would do, so us know what 415 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 5: you would do in the comments. There was a lot 416 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 5: of pressure from my family to get engaged and married 417 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 5: before the baby was born, and Unfortunately we caved to 418 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 5: that pressure. We had talked about marriage and getting engaged. 419 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 5: Before that point. We had a pretty solid relationship, I 420 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 5: would say, prior to the pregnancy and baby being born. 421 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 5: I'm realizing now we never had any of the hard conversation. 422 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 4: We would fight. 423 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 5: Here and there, but we never sat down and figured 424 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 5: out a lot of the important stuff like finances, future goals, 425 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 5: things like that. A lot of that I had thought 426 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 5: we would figure out as we went, because yeah, it 427 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 5: was a few years at that point, but he was 428 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 5: never the type of person to have that kind of conversation. 429 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 5: I would get one word answers here and there when. 430 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 3: I brought it up. 431 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,239 Speaker 5: I thought we would sit down and talk about it 432 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 5: and figure it all out once we got engaged. Part 433 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 5: of me talked myself into thinking that was a normal 434 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 5: thing to do. I am now learning it's not. Don't 435 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 5: get me wrong. We knew or we both stood on 436 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 5: kids and on the next five years, but past that, 437 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 5: I can't remember major conversations where I actually got a 438 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 5: lot of input. 439 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: I think that should have been my first red flag. 440 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 5: I've taken care of everything pretty much our entire relationship. 441 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 5: I was the one who took out a mortgage to 442 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 5: buy our house. I used my entire savings for the 443 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 5: down payment. I paid and managed all of our shared 444 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 5: expenses and bills. I was the primary one to cook meals, 445 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 5: grocery shop and meal plan or prep. I was the 446 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 5: one who basically paid for and put on my credit 447 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 5: cards all of our furniture for the house. I was 448 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 5: the one to handle anything with our dogs, like vet visits, 449 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 5: getting them scheduled, grooming, kennel arrangements. When we went on trips, 450 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 5: I scheduled, managed, paid for it all. I was the 451 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 5: one who maintained cleaning and organizing her home. I was 452 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 5: the one who decorated for all the holidays, tried to 453 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 5: make sure we had gifts for everyone for Christmas, Birthdays, 454 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 5: wrapped all the gifts, and so on. His main responsibilities 455 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 5: were garbage and laundry. That's primarily it. He covered takeout 456 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 5: and dinners here and there. My entire pregnancy was tough, 457 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 5: really tough. I didn't know what to expect, but I 458 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: was very sick during my first trimester and had some 459 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 5: bleeding here and there that really scared me. I was 460 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 5: considered high risk because of some ongoing health issues and 461 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 5: Things got harder again during my third trimester, when I 462 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 5: became sick all over again and started having early labor 463 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 5: symptoms that wouldn't stop. In the end, I had to 464 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 5: have an emergency sea section because of the baby's side, preclampsia, 465 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 5: and those same healthcare. On top of all of that, 466 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 5: I was trying to plan a wedding, My job's busy 467 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 5: season was picking up more than ever, and there were 468 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 5: house problems I was dealing with on my own. It 469 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 5: was just a lot happening all at once. I was constantly. 470 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 3: Stressed and exhausted. 471 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 5: All I really wanted was some comfort and to feel 472 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 5: cared for, especially after years taking care of him and 473 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 5: everything else for us. But that comfort never really came. 474 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 5: The house got messier and messier. When I couldn't clean, 475 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 5: the dishes would pile up in the sink unless I 476 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 5: did them. I had to remind him to take out 477 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 5: the garbage or swap the laundry. 478 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: You shouldn't be having to parent, you know, your husband, 479 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: when you're about to be parents. 480 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my goodness. 481 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 5: If I asked for something simple like a blanket while 482 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 5: I was laying on the couch or a glass of water, 483 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 5: I was met with a huge sigh and a frustrated 484 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 5: sounding yeah. Fine, he claims that never happened. These are 485 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 5: just a few examples, but the point is I wanted 486 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 5: to feel taken care of because my life didn't slow 487 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 5: down when things got hard, and I felt like I 488 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 5: was doing everything. 489 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: You are. 490 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 3: If he's not cooking for you, well, you are pregnant, 491 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: and every time you don't cook, you guys are out 492 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 3: and you're not taking care. Yeah, and he's not taking 493 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: care of you. Learn how to freaking cook, dude. 494 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 5: The issues just built up. It really made me see 495 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 5: him differently. We started couples counseling before the baby was born, 496 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 5: and it felt like he didn't want to be there. 497 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 5: He would barely participate, and then afterward he would be 498 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 5: silent on the drive home because he didn't like what 499 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 5: I had to say or what I thought or brought up. 500 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 5: Fast forward to when my baby boy was born. He 501 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 5: was helpful in the hospital and for the first week home, 502 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 5: but after that it was in immediate downhill fall to 503 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 5: me doing everything. Yeah, come on, yes, I know mom's 504 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 5: take on most of the responsibilities when baby is born, 505 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 5: but it felt like one hundred percent me and zero 506 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 5: percent him. I believe you. I don't know. 507 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,439 Speaker 3: He's like trying to like be like yeah, I know, 508 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 3: you know, people probably say, no, this is beyond in 509 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: the wrong. 510 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 5: He's not doing anything anything. I was still cooking, cleaning, 511 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 5: grocery shopping, ordering the takeout, changing most of the diapers, 512 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 5: up all night with the baby, doing all nighttime feedings 513 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 5: and changes, and working here and there during my maternity 514 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 5: leave because I worked for my family and had to 515 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 5: take care of things while I was out. I still 516 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 5: took care of all the shared expenses. I took on 517 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 5: getting things we needed for the baby, like formula and diapers. 518 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 5: I was combo feeding the baby and trying to make 519 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 5: breastfeeding work, but I wasn't producing enough milk, so I 520 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 5: had to do both. I definitely slipped on taking care 521 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 5: of myself because they're hoo much to do. He would 522 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 5: get home from work and just sit right on the 523 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,959 Speaker 5: couch and not ask if I needed anything or to 524 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 5: take care of the baby. 525 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is over. I mean, like you're paying for things. 526 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 4: He's not helping. 527 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 3: Like maybe he's contributing some finances, but like he would 528 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: still be doing that if you guys divorce, if. 529 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 5: He doesn't want to be doing the things physically. He 530 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 5: at least needs to be paying somebody to do them, yes, 531 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 5: so that. 532 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 3: It takes it off of your workload. 533 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 5: Absolutely, some days he wouldn't even come look at him. 534 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 5: He barely did anything once he got home with him, 535 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 5: and it seemed like a hassle. Any time I asked 536 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 5: for anything, even just to hold him so I could 537 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 5: go to the bathroom, I would come back and the 538 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 5: baby would be in the swing. Some of the time, 539 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 5: I would go out with my mom to get our 540 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 5: nails done or walk around Target for an hour once 541 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 5: every two weeks for a little break, and he would 542 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 5: be asking when I was coming home, or making it 543 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 5: seem that I had been gone for so long. I've 544 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 5: spoken about all of my feelings, which is really hard 545 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 5: for me to do. A prior off a relationship made 546 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 5: me feel. 547 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: Like I couldn't. 548 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 5: Every time I speak up about my feelings or how 549 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 5: I'm frustrated or upset with the imbalance, it turns into 550 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 5: an argument or the conversation is turned back on me, 551 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 5: like I'm the one doing things wrong, which is incredibly frustrating. Currently, 552 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 5: I'm back to work and I bring my baby with me. 553 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 5: And work and watch him at the same time. I 554 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 5: am extremely lucky to be able to do that. It's 555 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 5: not easy, but I make it work. I'm still responsible 556 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 5: for everyone and everything. I'm still the only parent that 557 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 5: gets up in the middle of the night with my son. 558 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 5: The icing on the cake was the other night when 559 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 5: I was in tears in the closet because none of 560 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 5: my clothes fit me. Right after having the baby. It's 561 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 5: been a huge struggle for me. We were supposed to 562 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 5: go out, we had a babysitter, and it was supposed 563 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 5: to be a fun night. I got really upset that 564 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 5: nothing fit or I didn't know how to dress my 565 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 5: new body. I felt very vulnerable. He came in and 566 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 5: hugged me and was trying to comfort me. 567 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: Then a minute later, as I'm. 568 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 5: In tears, he turns it back to himself. He says 569 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 5: something's wrong with him and then tries to initiate spicy things. 570 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 5: I stopped him because I clearly was not in the 571 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 5: mood and he got upset with me. He couldn't even 572 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 5: be there fully in a super vulnerable moment for me, 573 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 5: I just don't know if I can see myself in 574 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 5: this relationship for the rest of my life. 575 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 3: Then don't stay in it. Get out of there, get 576 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: out of it. 577 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 578 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 5: I can't keep being the only one doing everything all 579 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 5: the time. 580 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: I am not the only adult. Yeah, I mean, Op, 581 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 3: You've talked to him about it, and he just doesn't 582 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 3: know how to listen. He's a little baby man. He 583 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: goes la la la la, lad man. 584 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 4: I can't hear you. 585 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 5: You to take care of him more than your sounds 586 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 5: of it. 587 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 3: I just worry about my son. 588 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 5: I don't want a divorce parent life for him, being 589 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 5: split between us both. I wanted a happy, loving home 590 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 5: where both of his parents were present. Twenty four to seven. 591 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 5: I think I'm making this post for advice. What would 592 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 5: you do in my scenario? Would you stay or leave? 593 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 6: Leave? 594 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: You don't deserve willing. 595 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 5: To even after therapy. Yeah, and you've voiced your concerns. 596 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 4: That's it, That's all you can do. 597 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: We have a comment. 598 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 5: I understand you wanting a happy home, but I don't 599 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 5: think your husband is capable of providing that. 600 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: He is a weak man. 601 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 5: He might not know how to be a good husband 602 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 5: and father, but he isn't even trying. I don't think 603 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 5: this is the life he wants. If he wanted it, 604 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 5: he would move heaven and earth for you and his son. 605 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 5: Your son deserves a happy, safe home. You can provide 606 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 5: that for him. Maybe there's a wonderful man out there 607 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 5: who will be a great step dad. Your family can 608 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 5: step in as well to be good role models. 609 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: And that is the end of that story. 610 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam. 611 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: We'll get back to the stories, but here's three minutes 612 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: of ads from our sponsors. My siblings took over the 613 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: family business after I've spent years making it successful. 614 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 2: All of my hard work. 615 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: My dad, sixty five Mail, is a heavy diesel mechanic 616 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: and has run a small workshop his whole life. I 617 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: twenty nine Mail, have always been interested in his work 618 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: since I was a kid and would always help him 619 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: out on the weekends. I went to university and studied 620 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 3: mechanical engineering and commerce, but struggle dropped out and traveled 621 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: the world for a year. By the way, this comes 622 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: from Physical Antelope one se and if you want to 623 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: submit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay storytime, 624 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 3: separate it. I'm Sofia and I'm an If we're here 625 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: to give good advice, goofy and we. 626 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: Don't have all the answers. 627 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 3: We only know what we'd do, so. 628 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 4: Let us know what you would do in the comments. 629 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: OHP says My siblings, thirty six male and thirty two female, 630 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 3: are both in investment banking and are successful in their careers. 631 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: Since I was twenty three, I have worked with my 632 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: dad as a mechanic and slowly taken over the workshop. 633 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: When I started, he had two part time mechanics. 634 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 4: And one car. 635 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 3: In twenty seventeen, I have brought in several new strategies, 636 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 3: such as focusing on commercial verticals only and off our servicings, 637 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: and we have grown to thirty five employees and fifteen cars. 638 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: We went from two hundred and fifty thousand in revenue 639 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: to just shy of seven million this financial year. My 640 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 3: dad only works in the workshop, while I'm more of 641 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 3: a twenty eighty workshop to office split. Thevid has meant 642 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 3: our business has grown tremendously in the last few years. 643 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: A few weeks ago, at my dad's sixty fifth birthday dinner, 644 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: he talked about the numbers of the business and everyone 645 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 3: was shocked. No one in the family has ever visited 646 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: our workshop or asked about it. Since then, he has 647 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 3: been thinking about the succession plan. After my siblings started 648 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: asking about it, he proposed the following idea to me. 649 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 3: I get forty percent of the business and they get 650 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: thirty and thirty. My sister would get a manager position 651 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: as she is looking to leave the IB world to 652 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: start a family, and my brother would get the same 653 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: as well if he wants it. I noted everything he said, 654 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 3: and just as for some time to think, I started 655 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: proposing some of the most insane ideas without any context 656 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 3: of the business. I'm seriously annoyed. My dad has run 657 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: this for thirty two years, but only since I joined 658 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: did we expand. I admit I use my dad's network, 659 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 3: reputation skill and initial workshop to get a head start, 660 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 3: but it was my idea to expand, get a bigger 661 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 3: workshop and implement risky ideas. I don't think my siblings, 662 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: who have never even asked about the business should get cushy, 663 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 3: high paying jobs for doing nothing. If we wanted a 664 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 3: two hundred thousand dollars a year manager, I would get 665 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: one with industry experience. I have spoken to him briefly, 666 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 3: but he was shocked by my reaction and said it 667 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 3: was his dream to have all his siblings work in 668 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 3: the business, but my brother and sister have never even 669 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 3: picked up a spanner before in their lives. I've been 670 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 3: hanging around since I was twelve. He said it would 671 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 3: be mine. I don't want to have to answer to 672 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: a board of my siblings, who, I get the vibe 673 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: think they are smarter than me just because they finished university. 674 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 4: I built this. 675 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 3: Business with just my dad and want to keep building 676 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 3: it with them without my siblings. I can see it 677 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: from their point of view, as this is a family 678 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: business my dad started and my dad wants to make 679 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 3: an effort to include them, but I feel they only 680 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 3: want to be included because we are now successful. I 681 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 3: am being accused of being greedy and entitled by my family. 682 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 3: I think this is ridiculous, and the business is mine 683 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 3: after spending the last six years building it. I would 684 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: love some outside perspective on this situation. And there is 685 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 3: an up day, which we'll get into in a moment. 686 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 4: But what do you think, Angie. 687 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 6: I think we gotta talk to Dad. Yeah, and we 688 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 6: gotta be like, hey, business talk right now. This isn't 689 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 6: family talk, because I think that's important to say. 690 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: You have to diperentiate this business talk. I think that 691 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: I have just contributed more. 692 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 6: Just explain your situation. Just tell him what you think, 693 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 6: come up with this solution, give him all the wise 694 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 6: and just don't even just ask for like what do 695 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 6: I or like I want more? Just like say I 696 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 6: think this would be fair because this and this and 697 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 6: this like come up with a number yourself agreed. 698 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: I just wanted to give a quick update. Thank you 699 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: for the amazing advice and for linking the plumber story. 700 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 3: Reading that really scared me and it basically happened to me. 701 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: Some quick points. I can't really sell my shares or 702 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 3: this business. We are a service business where we get 703 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: paid for the work we have done. We have assets, 704 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 3: but they're used, dirty utes and tools worth hundreds of 705 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: thousands new, but nothing on the second hand market. We 706 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 3: had a family business lawyer meeting last night and I 707 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 3: don't know what's happening. My sister and brother had been 708 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 3: lobbying my dad about the direction and strategy of the 709 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 3: company before this for weeks. They feel it would be 710 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: in better hands with my sister being CEOs, my brother 711 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 3: being CFO, and me as COO or glorified operations manager. Unfortunately, 712 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 3: my dad agrees with them. During the session, I felt 713 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 3: incredibly patronized. They laid out this five year plan and 714 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: how the company would grow to be this huge entity. 715 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: We would own equal amounts in They didn't talk to 716 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: anyone in the actual business about this plan or even 717 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 3: our customers. They wanted to make things standard, but the 718 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 3: reason our customers love us is because we are flexible 719 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 3: and accommodating. I asked a few questions to see how 720 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 3: set my dad was in this plan and realized he 721 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 3: was really excited. I tried to argue the current business 722 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 3: was fifty to fifty between my dad and me, therefore 723 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 3: it should be split sixty six, seventeen, seventy and seventeen. 724 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 3: There are huge salaries, would be better off hiring mechanics 725 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 3: to grow. I was told everyone's replaceable by my sister. 726 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 3: This crushed me because I don't think that's true. I 727 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 3: secured our biggest ten customers only in the last fifteen months. 728 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 3: Because I have this reputation as the mechanic who went 729 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 3: to UNI and worked on the tools. 730 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 2: I know. 731 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 3: I leveraged this in the bidding process over other companies. 732 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: This isn't like a public company. Everything in the industry 733 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 3: is relationships, I've been reading the art of the war 734 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 3: this last month, and I've decided I'm not going to 735 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 3: voice any more concerns. I'm going to go along with 736 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 3: the plan, let my emotions melow out, and wait until 737 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 3: i can think. 738 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 4: Of some options. 739 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: Oh Pe on his siblings jobs and if they way 740 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 3: their respective fields or not. Opie says, yes exactly. They 741 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: choose to work in a corporate job and they hate it. 742 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 3: I feel they see this as an opportunity to make 743 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 3: the same money and work for themselves. We have a 744 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,399 Speaker 3: system and culture in place that will get ruined by 745 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: bringing into people. I also feel they aren't entitled to 746 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: the business. I built it up with the understanding it 747 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 3: would be mine. Commoner one says, your dad is being ridiculous. 748 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: Suggest you sell the business and split it. However, he 749 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,920 Speaker 3: chooses it's his business, even if you helped expand it. 750 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 3: But make it clear that you're not comfortable working in 751 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: that situation. Consider whether you want to continue building your 752 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 3: father's assets. You're not being greedy at all. He's offering 753 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 3: you ten percent of his business in consideration for the 754 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 3: work you've done to date, plus an equal share with 755 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 3: your siblings After that. That's not crazy unfair to you, 756 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 3: but the work situation he's proposing is ridiculous. You shouldn't 757 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 3: stay in a dysfunctional situation just to keep everybody happy. 758 00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 3: Opie says, I understand you're saying it's his business, but honestly, 759 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 3: I don't feel he owns one hundred percent of the 760 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 3: current company. I think it would be split fifty to 761 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 3: fifty between him and me at the moment. 762 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 4: Opie. 763 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 3: On his siblings relationship with their father and success in business, 764 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 3: Opie says, I am open to them having a percentage 765 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 3: or a payout from my dad's half of the business. 766 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 3: My dad and I are super close, but my dad 767 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 3: and siblings aren't. I worked with him even while I 768 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 3: was at UNI, but they got normal jobs that paid 769 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 3: less money. He has tried bonding with them, but he 770 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 3: thinks the world of them. I know they are smart 771 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,439 Speaker 3: and successful, but they haven't achieved what they expected in life. 772 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 3: I have tried talking to my sister and brother individually, 773 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: but they dismiss me, and it's really hard not to 774 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 3: be seen as the little brother who drop it out 775 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 3: of UNI to traml the world. You know, common or 776 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 3: two says not the a hole can you talk to 777 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 3: your dad about a purchase price, maybe fifty percent to 778 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 3: you and twenty five percent to each of her siblings, 779 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:55,959 Speaker 3: and get your. 780 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 4: Dad to agree that you buy them out. 781 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 3: That way, Dad gets to feel like he's giving something, 782 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 3: they feel like they got something, and you get to 783 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 3: own the company yourself. It still sucks for you, but 784 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 3: it might work out better than trying to work with 785 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 3: them in your company. Op says, I have tried, but 786 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 3: my dad is really excited. 787 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 4: About them joining the team. 788 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: I joked about them starting on the floor with the 789 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 3: apprentices and he laughed. They aren't the type to get dirty. 790 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 3: My dad sees we hired a few operation people and 791 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 3: a couple of finance people in the last year, and 792 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 3: he doesn't understand why they can't join the office. I've 793 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 3: tried to explain the bookkeepers and I've been people get 794 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 3: paid sixty five thousand and do what I tell them, 795 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 3: and there is an update folks ten days later. 796 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I hope we better start getting solutions. 797 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need a riot. 798 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 3: It's just a p having to be like, hey, this 799 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 3: is ridiculous, and no one listening to him. 800 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, because you just know that you know all the business, 801 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 6: and they're going to ask questions like you know that 802 00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 6: they're going to ask you questions. They're not going to 803 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 6: understand how things are run. And they're gonna be coming 804 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 6: to you for all of these things and all of 805 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 6: this help when you were at a lower position from them. 806 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that's ridiculous. Yeah, it's so ridiculous. Yeah, 807 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 2: and also being paid more. Yeah. 808 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 3: Ten days later, my sister and brother came to the 809 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 3: workshop to get on boarded. Last week, they both wore 810 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 3: paste polos to a mechanic shop and refused to shake 811 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 3: anyone's hands because our hands were covered in Greece. My 812 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: dad was so excited to show them around, and let's 813 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 3: just say none of the dudes were too impressed. I 814 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 3: went to my mom and dads after to talk. I 815 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 3: expressed some thoughts about and feelings, but they were so dismissive. 816 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 3: I tried to pitch some of the ideas in the comments, 817 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 3: like a slower start to joining the business, but they 818 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 3: just felt everything would work out. I just lost it 819 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 3: and told my dad he was a bad mechanic and 820 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 3: I would never hire him. He's sloppy and inefficient. I 821 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 3: asked him why he's never on the road. Why he 822 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 3: only works on ad hoc random issues and never does 823 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 3: routine repairs or servicing on our biggest clients. He's slow, 824 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 3: he doesn't know how to use the latest tools and technology. 825 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 3: He doesn't even know how to update the iPad checklist 826 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 3: forums that I created at the end of servicing, and 827 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 3: he sometimes misses check I partner the first year apprentices 828 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: with him because he doesn't clean up the tools properly 829 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 3: after himself. He doesn't wipe them down or place them 830 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 3: back in. They're allocated spots for the next person. They 831 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 3: have to do it for him. 832 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 4: I don't know. 833 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 3: I don't want to work in a family business. I've 834 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 3: always felt like the black sheep of the family. My 835 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 3: older siblings were close, but I felt excluded. They constantly 836 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,240 Speaker 3: lectured me about how I should go back and finish 837 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,839 Speaker 3: my degree rather than waste my life in the workshop 838 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 3: of a passed away job. And now after they have 839 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 3: seen the success of this job, they want to come 840 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 3: in OPI is on a roll. I'll save Reddit from 841 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,360 Speaker 3: all the points. But a lot of resentment in issues 842 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 3: came up. Yeah, we can tell, ope, we can tell. 843 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a very dang dude. 844 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 3: After that talk, I knew what I needed to do. 845 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 3: I went to one of our biggest clients and my mentor, 846 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 3: the CEO fifty five mail of a logistics company, and 847 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 3: told them the story. He offered me a two hundred 848 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,320 Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars loan over three years to start 849 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 3: my own shop. 850 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big loan. 851 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 4: Take it and go. 852 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 2: Man, Wow, dude, I worry. 853 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 6: I worry for their relationship because even if Op is 854 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 6: not close with his siblings, he can't say a relationship 855 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,440 Speaker 6: with his dad exactly, and he was close to his dad. 856 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 6: So it's like, I feel like there could have been 857 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 6: a better way to do that. 858 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 2: I get it if like. 859 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 4: All this presentment, which is what people are saying. 860 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, which like I totally get that, But I feel 861 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 6: like you could still snap in a calm tone, you 862 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 6: know what I mean. 863 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 3: I mean, ideally you would have expressed your points he declines, 864 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 3: and then you go to the other person and say, hey, 865 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 3: this is what's happening, and then you get the job. Sure, 866 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 3: ideally you would have said it respectfully, said okay, if 867 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 3: you're not going to do that, and I can't stay here, 868 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 3: and that's that. But it is hard when you're you know, 869 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 3: you have this close relationship with the dad and he's 870 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 3: just not listening. 871 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 2: Got all the emotions, I get it. 872 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's a little bit left though. I signed 873 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 3: the lease at our old workshop and spent all of 874 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,959 Speaker 3: my savings on four cheap utes and close to forty 875 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 3: five kN tools. I've already confirmed with our eight biggest 876 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 3: customers to move to my new workshop, which is close 877 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 3: to sixty five percent of our total revenue. I have 878 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 3: confirmed with seven of our best mechanics that they will 879 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 3: move to my shop. 880 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 4: Little coup Detta here, and. 881 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 3: I'll welcome any of the other boys once the news breaks. 882 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 3: I just copied our presemployment contracts off a template so 883 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 3: there is no conflict. I know this is going to 884 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 3: blow up the family and will decimate the old business. 885 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 3: I did try talking to my sister about the changes, 886 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 3: but she just treated me as the little kid that 887 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 3: got lucky. My dad was delusional and too excited to 888 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 3: see all his kids working in the same business. To me, 889 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: it was never about money or greed. During my time, 890 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 3: my title was boss's son. I just loved leading a 891 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,760 Speaker 3: team of solid boys working outside fixing stuff that broke 892 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 3: with my pops. I know the culture and business I 893 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 3: built are gone, so I don't feel I'm destroying anything, 894 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 3: but I still feel guilty. Yeah, I mean your family 895 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 3: relationship will never be the same. 896 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 4: But as long as you know that, I guess that's that. 897 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, song, as you're prepared, and then that's all 898 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 6: you can do. 899 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. We're going on 900 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 2: to the next one. 901 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 6: My brother wanted to cause drama at our father's funeral, 902 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 6: so I uninvited him. 903 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 3: You're bringing down the vibes. 904 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 6: I have three younger siblings, two brothers, Andrew and Ben, 905 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 6: and one sister, Claire. When we were younger, my father 906 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 6: discovered Ben was homosexual. He was enraged and probably would 907 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 6: have disowned Ben on the spot if it was not 908 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 6: for the intervention of our mother. 909 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from it politics, Emma. 910 00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 6: They will help, and if you want to submit your 911 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 6: own stories, go to thelash Okay storytime, supparate it. And 912 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 6: I'm Angie, I'm Sophia. We're here to give good advice. Goofily, 913 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 6: but we don't have all the answers. We're just gonna 914 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 6: guess what we would do in this situation. But let 915 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 6: us know what he would do in the comments, so 916 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 6: Opie says. Dad and Ben never reconciled. A siblings stayed close, 917 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 6: but eventually Ben could not take his attitude anymore and 918 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 6: moved out. Claire followed, but for career reasons, Andrew and 919 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 6: I stayed in our hometown. Dad passed away of the 920 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 6: vid complications a few days ago. As the eldest son 921 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 6: of the family, it became my responsibility to prepare the funeral. 922 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 6: He was a prominent member of the local community, so 923 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 6: attendance will be high. Now we come to the main issue. 924 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 6: Ben wanted to give eulogy and sent me a draft 925 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 6: of his speech. Unsurprisingly, the contents were not flattering, and 926 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 6: I rejected him on the spot. Got really angry and 927 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,520 Speaker 6: told me that this was his best chance to expose 928 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 6: Dad's hypocrisy, especially since he had the image of a 929 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 6: good family man. He wanted everyone to know how much 930 00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 6: he suffered at the hands of our father. 931 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 2: Now. I love Ben unconditionally. 932 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 6: He is my younger brother and there are not a 933 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,720 Speaker 6: lot of things that I would not do for him. 934 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 2: However, this is one of them. 935 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 6: It is simply not appropriate to speak ill of the 936 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 6: passed away people at their own funeral, which is supposed 937 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 6: to be a celebration of their life. For all his ugly, 938 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 6: hideous flaws, Dad was a complicated person, and focusing the 939 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 6: entire funeral on his relationship with one person is too much. 940 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 6: There is also the fact that letting him do such 941 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 6: a eulogy will probably cause a massive fallout in the community. 942 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,160 Speaker 6: Ben will not have to deal with the consequences because 943 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,719 Speaker 6: he lives in another state, but Andrew and I will 944 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,640 Speaker 6: be left picking up the pieces. Claire is on Ben's 945 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 6: side for this one, while Andrew is on mine. I 946 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 6: want to stress that I am not trying to cover 947 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 6: for my father or what he did to Ben, but 948 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 6: there is a time. 949 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 2: And place for such things, and a funeral is not it. 950 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 6: Ben eventually backed down, but his husband has tipped me 951 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 6: off that Ben is still preparing to cause trouble. I really, 952 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 6: really do not want to do this, but it seems 953 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 6: to me that uninviting my brother from the funeral is 954 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,320 Speaker 6: the only choice. 955 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 2: Would I be the a hole if I did so? 956 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 6: And for those asking why I would even want to 957 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 6: honor such a horrible man in the first place, it's complicated. 958 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 6: Dad was a great father until the incident which happened 959 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 6: when I was in college. It's not easy being torn 960 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 6: between two people you love. And even though I can 961 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 6: say I did not hesitate to choose Ben, Dad was 962 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 6: still the person that I grew up admiring and loving. 963 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 6: I'm still sorting out my own feelings and trying to 964 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,760 Speaker 6: reconcile the loving father that raised me and my siblings 965 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 6: with the man who threw away everything for his petty prejudices. 966 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 6: And there's more info there, But to go back to 967 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 6: that question, would Ope be the a hole if he uninvited? 968 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 3: I think I wonder if there's I think have a 969 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,879 Speaker 3: conversation with Ben and say like, hey, I think it's 970 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,040 Speaker 3: awful what Dad did to you. I don't support him. 971 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 3: You know that I always supported you, or at least 972 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 3: I would hope that's true, OPI. But I hope it 973 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 3: doesn't come to you having to come out. I think 974 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 3: maybe having a convererce saying like do you even want 975 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:02,080 Speaker 3: to go? 976 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 977 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,719 Speaker 3: Like who genuinely, what is it? 978 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 4: How does it help you? 979 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, to expose him to the town of people you 980 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 3: probably don't even care about. Yeah, you know, like we 981 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 3: probably don't even like them, right, do you even want 982 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 3: to go. 983 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you do, you know, I would hope. 984 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 3: That you you don't speak like you don't have you 985 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 3: don't do the elogy. 986 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 987 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 3: I don't think you necessarily have a right to ban 988 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 3: him from his own father's funeral, right, but I would 989 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 3: hope that you have a good enough relationship to have 990 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 3: an honest adult conversation with him. 991 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. 992 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 6: For those asking about the fallout, it has to do 993 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,120 Speaker 6: with the town's local politics, That's all I'm willing to say. 994 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 6: Going to do a last few clarifications here because people 995 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 6: are making a lot of assumptions. No, we did not 996 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 6: cover it up. All four of us siblings have been 997 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 6: clear to our friends and family why we moved out 998 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 6: of the family house, and my mother has also made 999 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 6: it clear why she and my late father were estranged, 1000 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 6: even if we did not go out of our way 1001 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 6: to air the family's dirty laundry. Ben has also made 1002 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 6: it clear that he does not resent any of us 1003 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 6: besides our father, and us falling out would just be 1004 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 6: what our dad would have wanted. I might have understated 1005 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 6: a bit when I referred to the eulogy draft as unflattering. 1006 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 6: It was vulgar, vile, and definitely not appropriate for a funeral. 1007 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 6: Even if I had agreed with Ben's plan, there was 1008 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 6: no chance I would have approved the draft. The eulogy 1009 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,360 Speaker 6: would have reflected badly on him and not my father. 1010 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 6: That's a great point. I'm not going to ask men 1011 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 6: to keep the past a secret. He is free to 1012 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 6: tell anyone he likes on Facebook, the local obituary, etc. 1013 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 6: I just think that the funeral is not the appropriate time, 1014 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 6: and especially not through a eulogy. 1015 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 2: And yeah, verdicts from the comments are, oh, it is ale, 1016 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 2: But I. 1017 00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 4: Also understand where they're coming from. 1018 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,919 Speaker 3: I don't think that you have a right to ban 1019 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 3: your brother from his dad's funeral, but I do think 1020 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 3: I understand where you're coming I agree with you that 1021 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 3: he should not give that eulogy. Yeah, but also, is 1022 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 3: there any way that we can have an adult conversation. 1023 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the same thoughts. 1024 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 6: I at least try a conversation before going to that. 1025 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 6: I think that should be like a flast sort. Yeah, 1026 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 6: there are some more comments here. Crystal Queen three thousand says, firstly, 1027 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,280 Speaker 6: I'm sorry for your loss. 1028 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 2: I'm going against. 1029 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 6: The grain here, though, You're the ahole denying bedenclosure. To 1030 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 6: keep up appearances in the community is cruel. You and 1031 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 6: others experienced your father in a very different way than 1032 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 6: he did. Do I think he should read a eulogy. No, 1033 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 6: but he shouldn't be uninvited. He may cause a scene, 1034 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 6: he might not. I guarantee he's going to show up 1035 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 6: with or without your permission. He'll be responsible for how 1036 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,280 Speaker 6: he behaves. And there is an update from a week later. Hello, 1037 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 6: it has been one of the longest weeks of my life, 1038 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 6: but the funeral has finally concluded. 1039 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,800 Speaker 2: Okay. First of all, it would. 1040 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 6: Have been a mistake to rescind the invitation to my brother, 1041 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 6: and thank you to the people who pointed out that 1042 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 6: I had no way of keeping him out of the 1043 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 6: church without asking security to throw him out. That would 1044 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 6: probably have been almost as bad, if not worse, than 1045 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 6: the eulogy. I had to deal with a lot of 1046 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 6: people during the funeral, and many of them unpleasant but influential, 1047 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 6: and really was not in the right state of mind 1048 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 6: to make decisions. It was also wrong with me to 1049 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 6: try to deny ben closure, though I do have to 1050 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,799 Speaker 6: say that the comments accusing me of being complicit in 1051 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 6: or not having done enough to stop it, we're out 1052 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 6: of line. A singular post where I'm actively trying to 1053 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 6: limit personal information is not a fair basis from which 1054 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 6: to extrapolate our family relationships. And it seems to me 1055 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 6: that many of the commenters have their own emotional baggage 1056 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,879 Speaker 6: that they are trying to project onto my relationships. Yeah, 1057 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,719 Speaker 6: he didn't even give us all that, Like, we know 1058 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 6: what it's generally about, but we don't even know exactly 1059 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 6: what happened, So no, you can't. 1060 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 2: These commuters are silly if they're saying he did something wrong. 1061 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 6: Met up with my brother and his husband a few 1062 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 6: days after he gave me the eulogy. 1063 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 2: Thank you to. 1064 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 6: Those who suggested I ask about his motivations and provided 1065 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 6: alternative perspectives. We had a surprisingly brief talk. In short, 1066 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 6: Ben did not want us his immediate family to linize 1067 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 6: our father. He agreed that Ben would come, but we 1068 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 6: would leave the eulogy to dad's friends and we would 1069 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 6: hold a private wake for his immediately his immediate family only. 1070 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,120 Speaker 6: The funeral was mostly uneventful. A few questions were asked 1071 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 6: by the priest and my father's friends why none of 1072 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 6: his children or his wife. 1073 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 2: Were giving eulogies. 1074 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 6: But I just explained that we were leaving it for 1075 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 6: the wake. At the wake, we all got to say 1076 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 6: what we. 1077 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 2: Wanted to say. I think this is perfect. Yeah, I 1078 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 2: think so too. 1079 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 4: I'm so happy that you talked to Ben. 1080 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 6: This. 1081 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 4: You know what this made me think? 1082 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 3: I've been rewatching or I've actually just finished rewatching TETLASSA. 1083 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 3: And there's a moment where one of the characters, I 1084 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 3: won't spoil it too much, but I'm one of the 1085 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 3: characters No loses their father and damn okay, she Rebecca 1086 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 3: loses her dad, uh huh, who she has always hated 1087 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 3: because of something that he did, and she doesn't want 1088 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 3: to give a eulogy. She's like, I don't I have 1089 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 3: nothing good to say about him, right, And she gets 1090 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 3: up there and she's like, I don't know what I'm 1091 00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 3: supposed to say, and then she ends up just singing 1092 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 3: this song that she knows her mom loves, oh wow 1093 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 3: and plays every morning. Oh And that's like the whole thing. 1094 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,319 Speaker 3: That's her whole eulogy. She just sings this song that 1095 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,359 Speaker 3: she knows her mom loves and it has nothing to 1096 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 3: do with her father because she didn't have a good 1097 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 3: relationship with them. Yeah, and then she has this realization that, 1098 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 3: you know, there were moments that she forgot about that 1099 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 3: we're good with her dad and she has this very 1100 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,960 Speaker 3: complicated relationship with them. But I think the point is 1101 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,840 Speaker 3: that if you don't have anything good to say about 1102 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 3: your parents or a person that's passing away and you 1103 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 3: have to be at the funeral. 1104 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,319 Speaker 4: Don't say it. There's no one is making you say that. 1105 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm really appreciative of the family being like, 1106 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,919 Speaker 3: we won't say anything either word. 1107 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 1108 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's different ways to go about it, and I 1109 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 6: think they went about it in a good way. 1110 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 4: Five times. 1111 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,720 Speaker 6: There's a tiny bit warm thanks whoever suggested the after 1112 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 6: funeral party, we went to our childhood home and had 1113 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 6: a great time Due to the VID we hadn't We 1114 00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 6: really hadn't had the chance to meet up much, and 1115 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 6: this was the first time we'd had in a long 1116 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 6: time to catch up. After the funeral, we published an 1117 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 6: obituary with sections for each part of the family. It 1118 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 6: was tactically worded and choosing the right words was a pain, 1119 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 6: but Ben had fun with his section and there are 1120 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:12,000 Speaker 6: some final comments. Individual AD ninety two thirteen says congratulations 1121 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 6: on your willingness and ability to compromise and your deaf 1122 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 6: diplomatic skills. Let me add not the a hole, of course, 1123 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,760 Speaker 6: and Opie says, thank you, But most of the praise 1124 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,280 Speaker 6: should go to my brother's husband. 1125 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 2: I cannot thank that man enough for everything he has done. 1126 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,360 Speaker 6: I figure that by the time we met, my brother 1127 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,760 Speaker 6: was already ready to drop the issue, and I'm glad 1128 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 6: we found a solution where everyone could be satisfied. A 1129 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 6: deleted comment says, it's great that you were able to 1130 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 6: pull this together as a family to deal with the situation. 1131 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 6: Opie says, it's great, isn't it. I'm really lucky to 1132 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,279 Speaker 6: be surrounded by wonderful people. Take the issue of my 1133 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 6: father's inheritance, for example. I have heard horror stories of 1134 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 6: families torn apart by fighting over scraps. And even though 1135 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 6: I loved my siblings, money can change people, and I 1136 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 6: really was not looking forward to executing the will. Thanks more, 1137 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 6: my father left the majority of his assets in generations, 1138 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,760 Speaker 6: skipping trusts, so I thought that Ben would be upset 1139 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 6: for sure. 1140 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,000 Speaker 2: We settled it on the day of the funeral. God, 1141 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 2: I'm so lucky. And that's the end of that. 1142 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: Story John here og host. 1143 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to these stories, but a quick 1144 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 2: three minute break. 1145 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,719 Speaker 1: From hous form our sponsors. I refused to let my 1146 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: ex's step son in my house, and now I'm the 1147 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: awful one. 1148 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,719 Speaker 6: Oh here we go, harm me awful one. 1149 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: Our custody arrangement is for each of us to pick 1150 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,760 Speaker 1: the kids up on our day during our two hour 1151 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: pickup window. He arrived at the house and I already 1152 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: had the boys ready. I saw his car pull into 1153 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 1: the driveway on my camera, so the boys were already 1154 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: half way to the door when my ex knocked. I 1155 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: opened the door and he was holding the hand of 1156 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 1: a four year old. He asked to come in and 1157 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 1: said his fiance son needed to use the bathroom. 1158 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 4: By the way. 1159 00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: This comes from user Bonus West fifty thirty one, and 1160 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 1: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 1161 00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: the r slash okay story. I'm subbered it, I'm Dakota, 1162 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm Riley, and we're going to give you good advice, Googly, 1163 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: But we don't have all the answer. We only know 1164 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,280 Speaker 1: what we would do, So if you would do something different, 1165 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,720 Speaker 1: let us know in the comments. As oh P says, 1166 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: I told him I didn't want him to come inside 1167 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,720 Speaker 1: because I don't feel comfortable with him in my house. Bruh, 1168 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: it's a four year old who needs to use the toilet. 1169 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 2: It's a little guy. 1170 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: This child has a history of snooping through my things. 1171 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: He asked me to take his future steps onto the bathroom, 1172 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: and I said I was uncomfortable with the situation. He 1173 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: said his steps une needed to pee. I suggested the 1174 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 1: McDonald's up the road. He said my bathroom would be 1175 00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: way clean of the McDonald's facts though he can take 1176 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 1: his own steps onto the bathroom. 1177 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1178 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 1: At this point, my eleven year old started pestering his 1179 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:44,879 Speaker 1: dad to stop so. 1180 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:45,399 Speaker 4: They could leave. 1181 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: My ex said, your brother needs to use the bathroom. 1182 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,719 Speaker 1: My son said, I'll take him. My ex said, no, 1183 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 1: your mother would rather he pee in his pants. We'll 1184 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 1: go and hopefully we'll get to the McDonald's in time. 1185 00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 1: My ex and the boys left message me afterwards, saying 1186 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: I was cruel to a child to punish him and 1187 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 1: that it wasn't okay. He said, I made us both 1188 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: look bad in front of our kids and should be 1189 00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 1: embarrassed by my actions. I've been fighting with him for 1190 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 1: so long that my perspective is screwed up. Was I 1191 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: in the wrong and there are some comments I would 1192 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 1: say like maybe, but where was the There should have 1193 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 1: just been the insistence of like, yeah, you take him 1194 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,800 Speaker 1: to the bathroom. I'm not gonna take him to the bathroom. 1195 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,760 Speaker 1: You take him in the bathroom, and I'll observe. I'll 1196 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 1: make sure you stay where you are designated to be, 1197 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 1: which is. 1198 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,920 Speaker 3: Just the bathroom. 1199 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: Comments Number one, not the ale he wanted to snoop 1200 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: This was obvious after he rejected your son's offer to 1201 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,279 Speaker 1: take the kid to the bathroom. Sneaky, isn't he, Opie says, 1202 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 1: always has been. He's an indeligent man. Was that sarcasm? 1203 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: Because this guy sounds not that smart. Hm, he got 1204 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: put in a corner by an eleven year old. If 1205 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: the kid needed to pee, the X could have stopped 1206 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,720 Speaker 1: prior to arriving at his exes. He knows the relationship 1207 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,279 Speaker 1: is good. Lord, he has a two hour window my 1208 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,680 Speaker 1: X and I six pm. The end. Comments come in. 1209 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 1: Number two says, Okay, so I like to ask my 1210 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,280 Speaker 1: husband these scenarios and get. 1211 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 4: His two cents. 1212 00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 1: He seems to think, because you have stated you've had 1213 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: multiple problems with the X, that this was more about control. 1214 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: He wanted you to do. What he said was the 1215 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 1: boy hurting and crying because he had to go. If not, 1216 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 1: my spouse thinks it was a power play by your ex. 1217 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 1: If it were me, I would have asked my son 1218 00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: to take him and told the X to go wait 1219 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: in his car. But if this hydroponic system just likes 1220 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 1: to boss you around, then not. The ale op says 1221 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,080 Speaker 1: he was holding my ex's hand and kind of looking around. 1222 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 1: He didn't say anything. And there's an update. 1223 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 2: I bet he didn't even need to go to the bathroom. Oh, 1224 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 2: I bet he'd already peat in his pants. 1225 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: I did talk to my lawyer about what happened. He said, 1226 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 1: we can address it at the hearing we already have 1227 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: scheduled about the movie situation. I thought that was that, 1228 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,480 Speaker 1: But of course it was my turn to pick up 1229 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: the kids today. When I arrived at my ex's place, 1230 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: he opened the door very wide and invited me in. 1231 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: I was suspicious and said no, thank you. 1232 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:09,760 Speaker 5: Uh. 1233 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 1: He kept insisting I come in so we could show 1234 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: the kids we were civil, but I had a bad feeling. 1235 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: I said I would just wait in the car. For 1236 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,640 Speaker 1: the boys to come out. I got in my car, 1237 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,680 Speaker 1: texted my older son that I was there, and a 1238 00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 1: short while later he texted me back saying his dad 1239 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: said they couldn't leave unless I got them. I went 1240 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,240 Speaker 1: back to the door and knocked again again. My ex 1241 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: invited me inside. I said I didn't want to come in, 1242 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: and that was when my boys showed up. My ex's 1243 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:42,280 Speaker 1: fiance was right behind them, telling them to come back upstairs. 1244 00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 1: They ran to me and we left. I don't know 1245 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: what his game is, but I'm not falling for it, 1246 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 1: whatever it is. And there's a second update. What a 1247 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: couple of freakin' weirdos. 1248 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 2: Weirdo alert, weirdo alert. 1249 00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, guarantee the kids don't like your fiance now, dumb 1250 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 1: dumb X husband. We just concluded our hearing and it 1251 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: went okay, all things considered. The judge said that neither 1252 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: of us needs the other's permission to take the children 1253 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 1: to age appropriate experiences like movies. He told my ex 1254 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,000 Speaker 1: not to tell me I can't take the kids to 1255 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 1: do certain things just because he wants to do them. 1256 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,040 Speaker 1: But if he wants to do them, he can, but 1257 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 1: so can I. That was a win. The judge was 1258 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 1: annoyed that there was another drop off issue. He was 1259 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,400 Speaker 1: especially annoyed because the reason he gave my ex a 1260 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: two hour window for drop offs was that my ex 1261 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: set he needed flexibility since he's a caretaker for his 1262 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 1: fiancee's children. If he's taking them with him to drop offs, 1263 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: why does he need two hours. The judge told him 1264 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: not to take his fiance's children to my house and 1265 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 1: not to ask to come inside my house. He told 1266 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,959 Speaker 1: me not to go. He told me not to ask 1267 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,800 Speaker 1: to go inside his house either. He also told me 1268 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 1: not to rush my ex and to be patient and 1269 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: allow the children time to come to the door. I 1270 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 1: wasn't rushing him, but I didn't say that to the judge. 1271 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: I just agreed. My ex also dropped the bombshell that 1272 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 1: the week of the wedding, he needs me to pick 1273 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,080 Speaker 1: the kids up from the resort where the wedding is 1274 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 1: instead of his house, because they're going on their honeymoon 1275 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,959 Speaker 1: straight from the resort and not returning home. 1276 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 6: M He wants her to go see them right after 1277 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 6: they got married and rub it in her face that 1278 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 6: he's getting remarried. 1279 01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: I'm very uncomfortable with this, and my lawyer said that's 1280 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 1: too much of a burden to put on me. Boom bang. 1281 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 1: The judge disagreed with my lawyer and said we all 1282 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: have to be flexible. Sometimes I'm stuck doing that. I 1283 01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 1: feel like he intentionally started fights about the previous two 1284 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: issues he knew he would lose on, so the judge 1285 01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 1: would side with him on the final issue to make 1286 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 1: things fare. Maybe I'm just paranoid. So two wins and 1287 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 1: one loss. Hopefully they'll be too happy about being married 1288 01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: to pull any more stunts. And there's a third update, 1289 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:54,760 Speaker 1: probably about the stunts that were pulled. 1290 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. 1291 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,360 Speaker 1: Updating with three. Well, I thought I would update everyone 1292 01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: on what happened when I picked my kids up from 1293 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: my ex husband's wedding. First of all, I got there 1294 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 1: at eight twenty. As soon as I arrived, I texted 1295 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,959 Speaker 1: my ex and my older son that I was there. 1296 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 1: Then I walked into the lobby. I checked my phone 1297 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: and had no response from either. I waited until eight forty, 1298 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,360 Speaker 1: and then I walked to the front desk. I said 1299 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 1: I was there to pick up my children and asked 1300 01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,480 Speaker 1: if maybe my ex had left a message at the 1301 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: desk for me, they knew nothing. I called my older 1302 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: son and he didn't answer. I called my ex and 1303 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 1: he didn't answer. At this point, my anxiety was bad 1304 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: and I felt sick. At nine, I called my lawyer 1305 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 1: and his receptionist said he would call me back. I 1306 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: kept calling my older son and he didn't answer. This 1307 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,640 Speaker 1: was unusual for him. I was scared something had happened. 1308 01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: I asked the front desk which room they were in, 1309 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 1: and they couldn't tell me, which I understood. At nine 1310 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,560 Speaker 1: to twenty, I called the police. It took them a 1311 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 1: while to get there. When they arrived, it was past 1312 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: ten the pickup window. I was panicking. All I could 1313 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: think was that my ex was going to tell the 1314 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: judge I was late. When the police arrived, they asked 1315 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,600 Speaker 1: the front desk for my ex's room number. They told 1316 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: the police he had checked out. 1317 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 4: Uh. 1318 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:14,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know what to think. They asked the front 1319 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: desk if they had kids with them when they left, 1320 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 1: and they said no. They said my kids were actually 1321 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,160 Speaker 1: booked in a suite with her kids and his parents, 1322 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,880 Speaker 1: and they had paid for late checkout. The officers told 1323 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,040 Speaker 1: me to wait downstairs and went to the room. They 1324 01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: came back with my kids and their stuff, and we left. 1325 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 1: My oldest said his grandfather took his phone away and 1326 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 1: they stayed up late and had no alarm set. Both 1327 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: boys said their grandparents were furious when the cops showed up. 1328 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: My lawyer eventually caught me back and we scheduled another 1329 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 1: custody hearing for after the honeymoon. 1330 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, Well, hopefully the judge will see that 1331 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 7: this is bonkers and that there's some sort of you know, 1332 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 7: insane not even just miscommunication. 1333 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 2: It's like it's like intentional miscommunication. 1334 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you're just why why you're turning your children 1335 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: into a vehicle to give your ex anxiety? 1336 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 2: Right? 1337 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I think you're just it's the lawyers, the 1338 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,680 Speaker 1: lawyers and the judges, and that's all you can really 1339 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 1: do and document and be like, hey, I'm I'm this 1340 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:21,240 Speaker 1: isn't working. 1341 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to see what happens at this next hearing. 1342 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,640 Speaker 1: So at the hearing, my ex tried to put everything 1343 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,439 Speaker 1: on me. He said, he told me the kids would 1344 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: be with his parents, he didn't, and then I staged 1345 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 1: the whole thing to make him look bad. He also said, 1346 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 1: me calling the police traumatized the kids. I showed the 1347 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 1: judge all of our communication. The judge even interviewed my kids, 1348 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,880 Speaker 1: who said even they didn't know they would be with 1349 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 1: their grandparents until the prior evening, by which point my 1350 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: oldest phone had already been confiscated. 1351 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 6: Huh, the one that she was trying to communicate with exactly. 1352 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: The judge gave me Prime Verry custody with visitation and 1353 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: said all pickups and drop offs will now be at 1354 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: neutral locations with a thirty minute window. He was done. 1355 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 3: He was pissed. 1356 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:17,200 Speaker 1: Yes, go judge, go judge, Go judge. Goudge, Go judge, 1357 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 1: Go judge. 1358 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 2: Gooooo. 1359 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,360 Speaker 1: My ex has filed to have our case transferred to 1360 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,919 Speaker 1: another judge because this one is clearly biased against him. 1361 01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,440 Speaker 1: In the meantime, though the boys and I are happy 1362 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 1: and doing well. They're both getting great grades so far 1363 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 1: this year. And that is the end of that story. 1364 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:43,760 Speaker 6: Wow Okay, well, yeah, we got a great, satisfying ending. 1365 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,200 Speaker 2: Justice was served, justice dispensed.