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Speaker 2: point spreads for March Madness and for entertainment purposes. Purdue

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Speaker 2: Now it's six and a half Nebraska. It was one

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Speaker 2: nine and a half. Also the odds to win the tournament,

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Speaker 2: Arizona is a slight favorite over Michigan. Then it's Duke,

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Speaker 2: then Purdue plus thirteen hundred, Illinois plus fourteen hundred, Iowa

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Speaker 2: what I think of Victor weinbin Yama that if he

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Speaker 2: doesn't win the MVP this year, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: his next year, because this is a coming out party.

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Speaker 2: He was a curiosity and then I wanted to see

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Speaker 2: him with a good point guard. I wanted to see

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Speaker 2: him kind of figure out he knew how to play defense.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to see if he knew how to play offense,

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Speaker 2: where to kind of find his spots. Well, he's finding

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Speaker 2: his spots now and he's making a case a late

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Speaker 2: run from MVP. Now. I've been pretty staunch supporter of

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Speaker 2: SGA that he is going to get the MVP. I

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Speaker 2: don't think he's the best player in the game, but

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Speaker 2: it's not always given to the best player in the game.

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Speaker 2: You have to decide whatever your definition of value is.

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Speaker 2: Do I think OKAC is a playoff team without SGA.

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Speaker 2: I do now Is that fair to him? Is San

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Speaker 2: Antonio a playoff team without Wembenyama? I don't think they are.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brown quietly carried the Celtics while Jason Tatum was out.

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Speaker 2: I still think Jokers the best player in the game.

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Speaker 2: He's a statistical anomaly. But this is where it becomes

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Speaker 2: a little bit more of Okay, people want to know

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Speaker 2: this guy play defense? Does that guy play defense? Jalen

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Speaker 2: Brunson does he play defense? No? I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Kid Cunningham plays defense. I don't know if SGA plays defense.

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Speaker 2: I know Victor Webbinyama plays defense. And when you think

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Speaker 2: the year. So at one end of the floor, he's

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Speaker 2: the best player in the game, no doubt, best player

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Speaker 2: in the game. How much does that count? How much

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Speaker 2: does that matter to voters? It seems to matter when

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Speaker 2: we want to vote against somebody. When you say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he doesn't play any defense. Okay, Now you've got

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Speaker 2: a guy who's the best defensive player in the game,

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Speaker 2: who is going to give you, you know, twenty two

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Speaker 2: So at the other end, he's still very high level.

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Speaker 2: Last night, webban Yama had twenty six, fifteen and five blocks.

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Speaker 2: So over the last three years, there have been eleven

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Speaker 2: games in the NBA where a player has had those numbers.

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Speaker 2: Wemby has six of the eleven games. Anthony Davis is

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Speaker 2: the only player with more than one. Dad of the

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Speaker 2: cards of the program. But I want you to listen

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Speaker 2: to Victor wemban Yama after the game last night, and

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Speaker 2: I want to remind you that he's only twenty two

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Speaker 2: years of age, But listen to he's just kind of

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Speaker 2: matter of fact, pragmatic, just like, hey, should I be

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Speaker 2: the MVP, here's Victor wembn Yama.

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Speaker 3: My first one would be that defense is sixty percent

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Speaker 3: of the game and that it is undervalue so far

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Speaker 3: in the interview race, because I believe I'm the most

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Speaker 3: impectful player defensively in the league. The second argument would

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Speaker 3: be we almost swept Okay seeing this season, and we

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Speaker 3: dominated him three times with their real team and four

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Speaker 3: times with year. My third argument would be that offense

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Speaker 3: impact is not just for us.

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Speaker 2: It's just a matter of fact. Now I will say,

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Speaker 2: if Lebron had said something like this, you know the

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Speaker 2: media would be crushing him. But he's twenty two. He's

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Speaker 2: stating his case and he's right. They won twenty two

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Speaker 2: of their last twenty four. They are a real force

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Speaker 2: to play for a championship. And if you watch them

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Speaker 2: the previous years, they weren't a very good team. But

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Speaker 2: he's finding his spots. He can shoot a three, he

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Speaker 2: can take it to the hoop. He worked out with

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Speaker 2: Jamal Crawford, who had one of the better handles in

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Speaker 2: the history of the NBA. So Wemby in the off

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Speaker 2: seven to five guy, wanted to improve his and he has.

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Speaker 2: But then you have him at the other end. He

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Speaker 2: can guard the three, and he can guard the rim,

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Speaker 2: and he doesn't have to take more than a couple

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Speaker 2: of steps. He is truly unique, and he's only twenty

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Speaker 2: two years of age. So when we start to equate value,

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Speaker 2: that's where it's open to interpretation. Is he the best

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Speaker 2: player in the game, No, he's the most unique player

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Speaker 2: in the game. Yes. Is he going to be the

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Speaker 2: best player in the game. Yes, now there's a late

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Speaker 2: push for Luka Doncic. Now he's leading and scoring. I

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Speaker 2: understand that the Lakers have played well, they lost last night,

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Speaker 2: But how much do I give credence to he doesn't

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Speaker 2: play defense. If Wemby is an A plus on the

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Speaker 2: And the answer is nobody. And if if I look

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Speaker 2: at what his team has done more importantly, we tend

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Speaker 2: to look if the Spurs had the best record in

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Speaker 2: the West, Wemby would win the MVP. But should it

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Speaker 2: be that his team isn't as good as OKC but

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Speaker 2: his value? Look at what they've done. Now it's not

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Speaker 2: a oh you got to see the Spurs their curiosity.

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Speaker 2: Now it's like OKC doesn't want San Antonio. They're going

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Speaker 2: to do their best to avoid because Wemby can't wait

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Speaker 2: to play against Chad Holmgern. And that's another thing that

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Speaker 2: I love. You know what happened at the All Star Game.

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Speaker 2: Wemby cared and the other players started to care. I

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Speaker 2: love the enthusiasm, and it matters he cares. He plays

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Speaker 2: hard like these are all the things you want, And

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Speaker 2: he wasn't cocky. He was just let me lay this

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Speaker 2: out to you in case you haven't thought of this,

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Speaker 2: and make a case. He's not gonna win the MVP,

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Speaker 2: but he should be finishing second. And he's only twenty two,

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Speaker 2: which is remarkable when you look at the skill of

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Speaker 2: he's the best defensive player in the game now. Katie

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Speaker 2: obviously a better offensive player, but not for much longer,

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Speaker 2: because once Wemby starts hitting the mid range jumper, he

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Speaker 2: can shoot a three, and he can go to the hole.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna have to pick your poison with him because

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Speaker 2: he'll make you pay. You're gonna let me shoot the three,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna let me drive to the hoop, or you're

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Speaker 2: gonna give me that mid range jumper. And if I'm Wemby,

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Speaker 2: I'd be pounding that mid range jumper. I'd make you

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Speaker 2: And then the defensive end, it's remarkable to watch him.

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Speaker 2: He can he can cover both sides of the lane.

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Speaker 2: He can go out to the three, he can guard

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Speaker 2: the rim. Yeah, Paul, he.

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Speaker 4: Had a block last night where the guy beat him

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Speaker 4: and blocked it from the backside. It was freakish.

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Speaker 2: It's remarkable, and you got have to go out of

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Speaker 2: And okay, see for that matter, to be fair to SGA,

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Speaker 2: but with Wemby, it's such I mean, you're watching you're

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Speaker 2: watching history, and look, I've been around this game for

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Speaker 2: almost sixty years. Like this is truly truly unique with

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Speaker 2: what we're seeing. But there are other players that I

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Speaker 2: thought could be like this. I thought Ralph Samson could

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Speaker 2: Guys who were that tall build could run and they

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Speaker 2: had great touch. This is different. This is unique. Now.

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Speaker 2: You know, we talk about people changing the game, Steph

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Speaker 2: Curry changed the game more than any other player in history. Well,

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Speaker 2: you can be Steph Curry because he's six two sixty three,

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Speaker 2: Like you can go out there and go I can

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Speaker 2: shoot that shot. You can't be seven to five so

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Speaker 2: you know they had the campaign to be like Mike. Well,

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Speaker 2: nobody could be like Mike, but we would like to

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Speaker 2: be like Mike. We can be like Steph Curry in

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Speaker 2: our mind. We can't be like Wimby. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Point, Maybe women Yama changes your game because you have

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Speaker 4: to play defense completely differently on him. Your offense, you

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Speaker 4: can't take normal jumpers. And I was looking how he's

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Speaker 4: finishing the season. In the month of March, he's up

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Speaker 4: he's up to four blocks. Though he's having his best

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Speaker 2: And this is what I mean. This has to count

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Speaker 2: for something a little bit more. You know, this is

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Speaker 2: getting ready for playoff position. You've won twenty two to

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Speaker 2: twenty four. Now OKC is won twelve in a row.

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Speaker 2: SGA gives you twenty a night. And maybe it's not

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Speaker 2: fair to him. He's not exciting. He's a great closer,

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Speaker 2: but he's known for what drawing founds. That's first thing

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Speaker 2: you think of, Oh, he's really good at drawing founds,

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Speaker 2: which I don't have a problem with. I think NBA

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Speaker 2: officials have to relearn how to officiate today's game. Because

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Speaker 2: you can call holding in past interference on just about

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Speaker 2: it's do you want to call that? And in the NBA,

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Speaker 2: and this is the death of the NBA some nights

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Speaker 2: where you're watching and it's forever, we watch this in

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Speaker 2: March madness, Like there are games where you go, God,

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Speaker 2: how long is this? Is this the same game we've

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They called him Special K when he was in height

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Speaker 2: Go in college Clark Kellogg, CBS Sports Lead college basketball

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Speaker 2: by the Pacers in nineteen eighty two in the first round.

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Speaker 2: You still got your uniform from your Pacer days.

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Speaker 10: You know, I've got a I do have actually a

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Speaker 2: You ever ask for somebody's jersey when you were playing?

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Speaker 10: I do have a signed pair of Reggie Miller's shoes.

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Speaker 6: Were probably getting away of that.

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Speaker 10: This tournament is such a special event on the sports calendar.

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Speaker 10: It's three weeks to a championship, that's sixty eight teams.

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Speaker 6: Time shall tell.

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Speaker 10: Dan, you know, we have a real tendency towards recency

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Speaker 2: And you're also going to cherry pick the mid majors

431
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Speaker 2: where you go, hey, you see that freshman or a sophomore,

432
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Speaker 2: we can offer you money, And that's where I think

433
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Speaker 2: you're going to have guys stay. But you're also going

434
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Speaker 2: to get an influx of guys who have proven that

435
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Speaker 2: they can play, and you may not have to go

436
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Speaker 2: after you know, a high school kid, You're getting somebody

437
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Speaker 2: who's already you know, battle tested.

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Speaker 10: Valid, valid points, real points that reality exists. But I

439
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Speaker 10: also think somebody mentioned this to me, and I can't

440
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Speaker 10: recall who it was because I'd love to attribute this

441
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Speaker 10: to them, But they also talked about as much as

442
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Speaker 10: we've talked about the Marquis freshman and how great this

443
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Speaker 10: class is, there also have been a number of really

444
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Speaker 10: good freshmen that have played at the high points or

445
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Speaker 10: the mid majors and have excelled. And I think what

446
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Speaker 10: may send some of that tide and still help March

447
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Speaker 10: Madness be a Cinderella place on occasion, will be that

448
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Speaker 10: some of these high school kids that are talented but

449
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 10: may not be one and done kind of guys will

450
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Speaker 10: end up in good situations at winning programs at the

451
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Speaker 10: mid major level, and some of them will decide that

452
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Speaker 10: that's the best place for me to be as long

453
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Speaker 10: as I can be comfortably taken care of from an

454
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Speaker 10: NIL standpoint and can develop and can maybe make a

455
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Speaker 10: March Madness moment with a group of guys that I

456
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Speaker 10: want to play with. So I think that's still going

457
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Speaker 10: to exist. I'm always idealistic. Yeah, won't exist as much,

458
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Speaker 10: but I think it still will be part of the fabric.

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Speaker 2: Feels like people are cooling on Duke's chances understandably.

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Speaker 10: So, I mean, when you look at how Michigan is

461
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Speaker 10: played purdueers coming on Arizona, I thought Michigan in Arizona

462
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Speaker 10: coming into the tournament would.

463
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Speaker 6: Have been co favorites.

464
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Speaker 10: I don't look at the odds makers, but I'm sure

465
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Speaker 10: that's probably what it looked like. I know Duke at

466
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Speaker 10: one point, but you have the injury to gone, but

467
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Speaker 10: he looked good in this game, he looks to be

468
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Speaker 10: one hundred percent. Obviously, Kayla Foster is not coming back.

469
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Speaker 10: You're wondering how that affects Duke as they go forward.

470
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Speaker 10: So I could see where if you're ranking the remaining

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Speaker 10: teams and you've got Tom Izel in Michigan State looking

472
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Speaker 10: at you and how successful he's been, that Duke would

473
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Speaker 10: be considered maybe vulnerable in its bracket. They've got Saint

474
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Speaker 10: John's first, which isn't going to be easy. So I

475
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Speaker 10: could see that, Yeah, I could see that where people

476
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Speaker 10: would cool on their chances to win it all.

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Speaker 2: Did B why you get their money's worth with aj DEBANSA.

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Speaker 6: That's a relative question.

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Speaker 10: I mean, clearly they got talked about more and probably

480
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Speaker 10: got more media exposure and contacts than they could have

481
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Speaker 10: ever imagined, certainly in terms of what happened on the floor.

482
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Speaker 10: In terms of success, maybe a tad below, But again

483
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Speaker 10: I don't know what the number was. You hear those numbers,

484
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Speaker 10: but there's no real reporting like you get from the NBA,

485
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Speaker 10: where you know what guys are really making. I think

486
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Speaker 10: it was as long as he felt good about where

487
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Speaker 10: he landed, they felt good about how he produced the results,

488
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Speaker 10: as a team were less than anticipated, but I would

489
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Speaker 10: think it would have been I would look at it

490
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Speaker 10: as a fair exchange.

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Speaker 2: Quite honestly, we're gonna expand the first four at some point.

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Speaker 6: You're assured of that. Yeah, okay, what do you think

493
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Speaker 6: is going to be DP?

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Speaker 2: I just think you double Tuesday and Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: So you're talking eight teams.

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Speaker 2: You just you get six. You still get your sixty

497
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Speaker 2: four to start officially on Thursday. But I think they'll

498
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Speaker 2: just they'll add more games on Tuesday and Wednesday. I

499
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Speaker 2: don't think anybody will have a problem with more games

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday and Wednesday. And I mean the structure is

501
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Speaker 2: going to be the same. I think that's what people

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Speaker 2: will be like, Okay, we still have our sixty four

503
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Speaker 2: teams and we're still are one through sixteen. I think

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Speaker 2: they'll just they'll add to Tuesday and Wednesday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't disagree. I mean they've talked.

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Speaker 10: The talk is been seventy two to seventy six teams,

507
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Speaker 10: which mathematically makes sense because most of the championship that

508
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Speaker 10: the NCAA puts on, twenty percent of the eligible teams

509
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Speaker 10: make the postseason.

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Speaker 6: We are currently at three hundred and sixty.

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Speaker 10: Five Division One teams, twenty percent of that would be

512
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Speaker 10: seventy three. So I've reconciled that being I know it's

513
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Speaker 10: about more games and more money, but I've reconciled the

514
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Speaker 10: mathematical component of why we would expand, and it was

515
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Speaker 10: much the same when we went from sixty four to

516
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Speaker 10: sixty eight in twenty eleven. The number of Division One

517
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Speaker 10: teams that increase, you want to get to that twenty

518
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Speaker 10: twenty one, twenty two percent, And I'm fine with that.

519
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Speaker 10: Expanding for the sake of expansion, no, but when you've

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Speaker 10: got a rationale behind it, more teams create more spaces

521
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Speaker 10: for opportunities for more players student athletes, so I'm good

522
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Speaker 10: with it. I don't think we'll go anything beyond either

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Speaker 10: four additional teams or eight, And to your point, I

524
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Speaker 10: think folks will be fine and adjust and be happy

525
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Speaker 10: with starting the sixty four team bracket on Thursday. The

526
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Speaker 10: calendar won't allow for much more than that. I just

527
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Speaker 10: think the calendar would allow for anything beyond that.

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Speaker 2: How often does Charles Berkley leave you speechless?

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Speaker 11: I mean, but it's so much fun for him to

530
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Speaker 11: leave you speechless or shaking your head or scratching your

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Speaker 11: head or just laughing hysterically.

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Speaker 10: I tell everybody you know him, you spent a lot

533
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Speaker 10: of time around him. He's one of the most gracious

534
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Speaker 10: celebrities of his stature that you will find anywhere, because

535
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Speaker 10: he's genuinely a good guy, and he is a genuinely

536
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Speaker 10: funny guy, which adds to his persona which is off

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Speaker 10: the charge.

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Speaker 2: Good to talk to you, great work, Thanks for joining us, Clark.

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Speaker 6: Always a pleasure, Dan, I look forward to it every year.

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Speaker 6: Keep up the great work, Man Clark.

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Speaker 2: and Peacock. Man, do you have a second home in Cleveland?

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Speaker 6: I feel like I'm living I know I know.

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Speaker 9: I feel like I have a residency here in Boston.

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Speaker 9: I feel like we've been in those two cities the

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Speaker 9: most this season. But things will start to change up

555
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Speaker 9: a little bit. I know, we go to OKC. We

556
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 9: have a trip to Houston coming up, so we're spreading

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Speaker 9: our roots a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Theadore okay, but what fan base might be a little

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Speaker 2: tougher on you between Cleveland and Boston.

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Speaker 6: Are good?

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Speaker 9: Oh, no problem, no problem either way, no problem. The

562
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Speaker 9: only fan base that raises an eyebrow is we nowhere

563
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Speaker 9: is one. It's the Knicks. Yeah, that's the only place.

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Speaker 9: Everywhere else I go, open arms.

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Speaker 6: How you doing.

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Speaker 2: Chicago's okay, Chicago's great.

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Speaker 9: I haven't been to Chicago, and because they've been so bad,

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Speaker 9: we haven't been to Chicago in like five years, even

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Speaker 9: when I was with the other network.

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Speaker 6: It's been a while since we've been to Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Well, Chicago always beat you, so they probably.

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Speaker 6: Where are we going with?

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Speaker 2: I just was looking at Yeah, you did damage to

574
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Speaker 2: the Knicks and they never forget, and then Spike Lee

575
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Speaker 2: is always there. But you and Spike are good.

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Speaker 6: We are very good.

577
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Speaker 2: But it took a while.

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Speaker 9: And look, even the Knicks team that all the players

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Speaker 9: I feel I'm good with respect.

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Speaker 6: It's the fan base that have an issue. All right.

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Speaker 2: I've been talking about Wemban Yama today, probably too much,

582
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Speaker 2: but he's twenty two. Yes, he was asked about being

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Speaker 2: an MVP candidate. He talked about defense, which to me

584
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Speaker 2: felt like, hey, Joker doesn't play defense the way I do.

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Speaker 2: He talked about scoring, he doesn't score like Luca does.

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Speaker 2: But then Wemby said, but scoring is more than just

587
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: you know, offensive end is more than just scoring. Then

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Speaker 2: he talked about head to head with OKC and SGA,

589
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Speaker 2: and he said we beat him three times.

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Speaker 6: Four times.

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Speaker 2: Well, he said three times with their full lineup. Yes, yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: tell me he is correct, No lies told. But tell

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Speaker 2: me why he won't win the MVP, because.

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Speaker 9: The guy who probably will win it, SGA, will probably

595
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 9: end up having the best record once again in the NBA,

596
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Speaker 9: second in scoring, and he is as though he's not

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Speaker 9: as impactful defensively as Wimby.

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Speaker 6: SGA does play defense. He is a two way player.

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Speaker 9: He's in the top ten and stills and he's just

600
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Speaker 9: like he's just out there scoring thirty points a game.

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Speaker 9: So I think having the best records will give him

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Speaker 9: the advantage. But I love everything about Victor Winbinyama. He's

603
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Speaker 9: reinvented how we approach the game, the All Star Game,

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Speaker 9: and he made those guys play hard. He should get

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Speaker 9: a nod for that as well. But I also want

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Speaker 9: to say this too, We've got to see them in

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Speaker 9: the playoffs. I mean, you gotta got to win a

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Speaker 9: playoff series.

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Speaker 6: I want to see a playoff series.

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Speaker 9: I know the guy that will probably win the MVP,

611
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Speaker 9: and what's finals MVP? Okay, let's I love what the

612
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 9: Spurs are doing. We're on a collide course, right, and

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Speaker 9: he's putting it out there. He is saying this before

614
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Speaker 9: the playoffs too. He's calling subtly, calling out names. Hey

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Speaker 9: I dominated y'all champs. Hey jo kids, you're a three

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Speaker 9: time MVP. I played both fans and I can score

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Speaker 9: with you guys too. So he's putting the Spurs unnoticed.

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Speaker 9: But I want to see him win a playoff series.

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Speaker 9: That's slower roll a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit, okay, but so that means he can't win the

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Speaker 2: MVP this year because it's taken for the regular season.

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Speaker 2: The votes are taken there. You want to see him

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Speaker 2: in the postseason. Therefore next year, if their success this year,

624
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Speaker 2: then he sets himself up to be MVP.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely I think, and again you know what, he could

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Speaker 9: win MVP this year. Don't get me wrong, because there

627
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Speaker 9: is what three weeks left in the season. I think

628
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Speaker 9: we are ten to some teams have ten to twelve

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Speaker 9: games left. And what the Spurs have done. Everyone thought,

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Speaker 9: especially the way the Thunder started the season, what twenty

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Speaker 9: four and one, that they were going to run away

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Speaker 9: with the season They've made the Champs have to work

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Speaker 9: and think about all the injuries to okay, see this

634
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Speaker 9: year and they are currently in a twelve game winning

635
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Speaker 9: streak right now, But they've needed every one of those

636
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Speaker 9: twelve wins. Why because the Spurs are breathing down their

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00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 9: neck only three games behind. So I give the Spurs

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Speaker 9: so much credit of putting pressure on the Champs. But

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00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 9: having said all that, I got to see how this

640
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 9: young team and how Wimby and how Castle and how

641
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 9: Dylan Harper. I want to see these guys in the

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Speaker 9: playoff series. They will steam roll in the first round.

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Speaker 9: Now we have a collision course with the Lakers. Are

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Speaker 9: you going with Luca and the experience with Lebron and

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Speaker 9: Ar and the Lakers and DeAndre Ayton, who's been to

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Speaker 9: the finals before or again the Spurs.

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Speaker 6: They steam rolled the Lakers this year as well.

648
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Speaker 9: I want to see that second round matchup, and then

649
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 9: if they're able to get by the Lakers and okay

650
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 9: See handle their business on the other side of the bracket,

651
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 9: then it's the matchup we have all been waiting for.

652
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: Okay, But if the Spurs end up with the best

653
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: record in the West.

654
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 6: Votes will already be in.

655
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 9: I think they will have to catch them, like by

656
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 9: next week. I think votes will be in because I

657
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 9: have a feeling it will go down to the last

658
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 9: game of the year if they catch them, right, because

659
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 9: they're three ahead with tend to play. I don't see

660
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 9: okay See going in the tank with ten games to go,

661
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 9: so if they catch them, it would be like the

662
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 9: last game of the year. I believe the votes for

663
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 9: MVP and all the awards will be in.

664
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 6: He's certainly gonna win Defensive Player of the Year.

665
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 9: You could almost make a case you won't being Most

666
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 9: Improved Player of the Year as well. And yes, he's

667
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 9: in line to me, I mean, and you know what,

668
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 9: we're not talking about Yolkish too. I mean, he's averaging

669
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 9: a triple double as a sinner. And again, I know

670
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 9: people will kind of want to look at him cross

671
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 9: eyed because the no defense or whatever. The dude's averaging

672
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 9: the triple double as a sinner.

673
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 2: Oh, Joker's in a different category.

674
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, I just don't want people to.

675
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 2: Now we take him for granted, now, we all, and.

676
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 9: You know what, we're taking Sga a little bit for

677
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 9: granted as well, because the new kid on the block

678
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 9: is showing us the twenty two year old so and

679
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 9: and you know what, I think a lot of these

680
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 9: people that actually vote for the VP, they could have,

681
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 9: you know, fatigue, SGA fatigue, Joker fatigue, and just you know,

682
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 9: want to spice things up and go with Wimby.

683
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 6: I let me promise this. I am in Victor's camp.

684
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 6: What he has done. He is a breath of fresh air.

685
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 9: Thank you for saving the All Star Game and making

686
00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 9: guys play hard.

687
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 6: I get it, but I want to see come playoff

688
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 6: time too.

689
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 11: Now.

690
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 9: I like the talking now because he's calling people by

691
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 9: names subtly, but he's calling people by names.

692
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: What changed? I know the Lakers lost last night, but

693
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 2: it felt like they figured something out. We've talked about

694
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: Lebron's role in this, but and Luca getting like a

695
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: late push for MVP as well. DeAndre Ayden, I think

696
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: recently came out and said, oh, I kind of figured

697
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: out what I'm supposed to be doing here.

698
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 6: Role get big hands ready, lob don't How simple is that?

699
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 6: DeAndre very good? Yeah?

700
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, And I think roles have been defined, starting with

701
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 9: arguably the best player over the last you know, twenty

702
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 9: three years, in Lebron James.

703
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 6: He knew he was going to have to take a

704
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 6: back seat and be.

705
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 9: The third option, which it sounds so to say, because

706
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 9: I don't think you can go back maybe to when

707
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 9: he was ten. I doubt even when he was ten

708
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 9: he was the third option on an AEE team ever.

709
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 6: And he's accepted that role.

710
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 9: I mean, case in point last night, he didn't even

711
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 9: score in the first half in that Detroit game.

712
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 6: He ended up with twelve points.

713
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 9: And I think he has accepted being the third fiddle

714
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 9: behind Luca, behind ar And again we talked about this

715
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 9: last week. I'm gonna give he didn't play last night,

716
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 9: but Marcus Smart and what he's done defensively on that team.

717
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 9: He's been a huge anchor in terms of being able

718
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 9: defensively to put the Lakers in a position where they

719
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 9: are so competitive at that end of the floor and

720
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 9: clean up a lot of mistakes sometimes that happened from

721
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 9: other players. So I think roles have been defined, guys

722
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 9: are playing within their abilities, and I think that's why

723
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 9: the Lakers have won nine out of ten games.

724
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 2: Talking to Reggie Miller, he'll be on the call. It's

725
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: the Cavaliers against Pallo ben Carrow and the Magic. And

726
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: there's some trouble going on with Polo ben Carrow and

727
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 2: coaching staff there in Orlando.

728
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 9: Look, you know there's been reports of him and the

729
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 9: head coach, Divalmo's they kind of having words with one another.

730
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 6: And again, it's been a long season.

731
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 9: Before this five em losing streak, they had won seven

732
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 9: games in a row, and I think there's been a

733
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 9: lot of miscommunication defensively for Orlando because that was their

734
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 9: calling caller the last two years. If you think about it,

735
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 9: they were so good defensively, and they go out and

736
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 9: they make the huge trade for Desmond Vane to bring

737
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 9: in some offensive punch because they needed shooting around Franz

738
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 9: Wagner again, who's been injured all season because of a

739
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 9: bad ankle. Look, this team has been hurt. Wagner hasn't

740
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 9: been back, Powell's been in and out of the lineup,

741
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 9: and they're battling right now. They're currently eighth, but they're

742
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 9: only a game and a half out of being fifth.

743
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 9: So yeah, I think there's some mist communication between head

744
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 9: coach Jamaal mostly and Palla. But this is a scary

745
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 9: team if they can get things right that they can

746
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 9: get Funds Vagner back.

747
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 6: Healthy and whole. Desmond Vane has been playing great as

748
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 6: of late. Shugs has been hurt a little bit. Sugs

749
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 6: has been hurt a little bit.

750
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 9: So there's some injuries for Orlando that they need to

751
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 9: kind of get healthy in hole first as a head

752
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 9: into the playoffs.

753
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 2: The freshman in college basketball, he got four or five

754
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: guys that feel like they're going right to the end,

755
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: like maybe tank Worthy. Yeah, but the biggest difference in

756
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: what you you know with de Banca and a Cup

757
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: and h Peterson like that Boozer. The difference of Okay,

758
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: that's college to the NBA. What changes right as you

759
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: get into the league.

760
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 9: The speed of the game, I'll put it to you

761
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 9: like this. In college, you feel like it's a four

762
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 9: hundred meter race.

763
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 6: You run, you.

764
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 9: Get out the gates kind of quick, and you have

765
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 9: your moments, but it's a challenging race. In the NBA,

766
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 9: it's a two hundred meter one hundred meter race every

767
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 9: single game. And in college basketball, you may be going

768
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 9: against a five star for one or two five star

769
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 9: four star players every game. In the NBA, everyone won

770
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 9: in high school and college and was a five star athlete.

771
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 6: And the size of the guys.

772
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 9: You forget how tall and long the NBA players are

773
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 9: versus college so it's a sprint. It's it's much more physical,

774
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 9: and to me, this draft class has all of that.

775
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 9: Caleb Wilson. Wilson from who didn't even play down the

776
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,800
Speaker 9: stretch for North Carolina, has the length and the size

777
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 9: to be a great NBA prospect. You talked about AJ Peterson,

778
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 9: from everything I've seen in Kansas and from his workouts,

779
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 9: can score the basketball with the best of them. Darius Acuff,

780
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 9: the guard from Arkansas, I would love to see him

781
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 9: in an NBA type setting. So it's gonna be an

782
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 9: interesting draft and where some of these teams like my

783
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 9: beloved Pacers, Sacramento, Brooklyn, Washington, Like, who.

784
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 6: Gets that top pick? The Utah? It's gonna be interesting

785
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 6: to see where some of these players fall.

786
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: If you're Brooklyn, why wouldn't you bring in mac mcclunk.

787
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 6: Why not?

788
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 2: I mean, like, nobody cares about the nets, nobody's going

789
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 2: to the games. At least you get a guy who's

790
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: torching the G League and at least he's entertaining to watch.

791
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 9: Not only entertaining, but what a three or four time

792
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 9: dunk champion. There's name recognition to that. And again, when

793
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 9: you're playing in the shadow of the Knicks, why not

794
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 9: have a guy like wait.

795
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 6: Isn't Matt mcclun didn't he win the dunk? I remember

796
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 6: some of those dunks? Hey?

797
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 9: I mean he could sell tickets for you To me,

798
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 9: I think it would be a no brainer. You're in

799
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 9: the tank anyways, you're losing every single game. Why not

800
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 9: take a flyer and give this young kid an opportunity

801
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 9: to get some NBA minutes.

802
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: But is he that bad of a defensive player?

803
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 6: Well, if you're scoring forty two in the G League,

804
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 6: he must be doing something right, right.

805
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: I don't understand that that Okay, you're really bad at defense,

806
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: but you're really good at offense.

807
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 9: Well, there was a guy that Doc Rivers just cutting

808
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,240
Speaker 9: Cam Thomas, I know who was instant office.

809
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 6: He was instant when he was with Brooklyn.

810
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 9: Maybe they think it's the same type of project, but

811
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 9: Cam had different issues. Cam Thomas, I don't know why

812
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 9: you just wouldn't bring in Matt McClung and give him

813
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 9: a shot and give him minutes.

814
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: Who's the fastest guy you ever saw in the NBA?

815
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 6: There's a host of them.

816
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 9: Rocket Rod Foster, who I played with at UCLA, had

817
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 9: a small stint in the in the NBA.

818
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: Wow, was Iverson quicker than he was faster?

819
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 6: Probably?

820
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 9: No, but he I was pretty fast as well. From

821
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 9: coast to coast ay I yeah, Hey, I would Muggsy votes.

822
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 9: He would put pressure on you too at that small

823
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 9: frame from coast to coast with the basketball. Jake Kidd

824
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 9: very fast, yes, j kidds and he's taller six four

825
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 9: six three six four.

826
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: I'd be curious. You guys don't run the forty.

827
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 9: No, this is not like the NFL combine where the

828
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 9: forty matters.

829
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 6: No, we don't. I think they do now.

830
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: Maybe, well, the forty doesn't matter. You're more likely to

831
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 2: run forty in the NBA than you are in the NFL.

832
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 6: Yes you are, Yes, who's ours? Ours? In the NBA,

833
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 6: it's more obviously, you know, quick movement.

834
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 9: How efficient can you get from spot A to spot B?

835
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 9: And there's so much more backpedaling side to side.

836
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's so many things.

837
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 9: In the NBA that are totally different from baseball, football

838
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 9: and some of these other sports.

839
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 2: Next time I had the commissioner on, I gotta tell

840
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: him it's time to bring the red, white and blue

841
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: ball to the NBA. It's about entertainment. It looks great, won't.

842
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 6: Happen because that was part of the gimmick of the ABA.

843
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 2: That's what you took the three point shot from the ABA.

844
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 9: I know, but that's what made it specially that there

845
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 9: is no way they will bring it would be great.

846
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 2: Okay, how about one week when you go into an

847
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: old ABA city.

848
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 9: Oh, that would be nice. So that would be San

849
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 9: Antonio obviously Indiana.

850
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: I believe that the nets, Yeah, well they.

851
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 6: Were the new Jersey nets then, right?

852
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: Was that the they will maybe the okay, maybe you

853
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: have ab a week.

854
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 9: You have them on you ask him about that, because

855
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 9: then your next question is going to be because I've

856
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 9: been hearing this being floated out, I'm on a four

857
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 9: point play.

858
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 6: What's your thoughts on a four point shot?

859
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 2: No, I don't want more people taking deeper shots. I'm

860
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: trying to I'd get rid of the one. I'd love

861
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 2: to have one week where you don't have to point line.

862
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: How about you?

863
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 9: Well, you're you're talking to a guy who lived behind

864
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 9: the three point lie.

865
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 6: I'm not on board maybe with that one, all right,

866
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 6: all right?

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Speaker 2: But would you would you be okay with the ABA ball?

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Speaker 9: I would love the ABA ball just because I have

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Speaker 9: again being adopted Hoosier, and we know what the ABA

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Speaker 9: Pacers meant for the state and the city of Indiana.

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Speaker 9: Mel Daniels, Roger Brown, Bob not a lucky They would

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Speaker 9: be very proud of this conversation.

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Speaker 6: Rale right now, I'm loving.

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Speaker 2: You, all right, play nice in Cleveland. Thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's Reggie Ala wishous Miller Junior. The third